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Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 08:37 PM
Straight from the kikes themselves at the Jerusalem Post.
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/12/02/Features/Features.39142.html
(Some tidbits out of there)
Although new laws are in the works to stem the white-slavery trade into Israel, Marion Marrache explains why the authorities must do more to treat the prostitutes as victims rather than criminals
"Woman's flesh for sale, woman's flesh for sale," yells a man in front of the Hamashbir department store in downtown Jerusalem, offering up to passers-by the young woman standing next to him.
Although trafficking in women is very much a reality in Israel, this scene was a protest staged two weeks ago by the Jerusalem Women's Center as part of the International Day of Protest Against Violence Against Women.
Local organizations dealing with the issue, such as the Hotline for Migrant Workers and the Awareness Center, believe that some 3,000 women are smuggled into the country every year for the purpose of prostitution. The majority of these women are from Moldavia, Russia and the Ukraine. They are approached in their countries of origin - where they earn $20 to $30 a month - with the promise of employment which will bring in a magical monthly $1,000.
According to a report issued by the International Abolitionist Federation, an estimated one-fourth of these women are unaware that they will be working in the sex trade, believing instead they will be employed as waitresses, cooks, au pairs, models or masseuses. None are prepared for what they eventually encounter. Most suffer beatings and repeated rape. The women are viewed and bought at pimping auctions - during which they are forced to undress - at prices ranging from $4,000 to $10,000.
AN ILLUMINATED sign reading "Palace Club" flashes outside a seedy brothel in south Tel Aviv. A group of journalists joining Gal-On's committee on a recent fact-finding mission, head down a few flights of dark stone stairs to the reception area where three young women sit huddled in a corner waiting for clients. Beside them stands their portly pimp dabbing the sweat from his forehead with a large silk handkerchief.
There are approximately 250 such brothels in Tel Aviv, an increase of 100 since last year. This is by far the largest number of brothels in the country; in other parts of the country trafficking exists, but it is less common and there is far less awareness of the problem. Some of the women live in brothels, others have a room elsewhere.
Also another article concerning the same issue.
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/08/31/Columns/Columns.11593.html
Heres another rather long article dealing with this issue but this one is from a White Racialist website.
http://www.anti-semitism.net/jew-atrocities-whiteslavetrade.html
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 08:37 PM
A picture for you.
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Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 08:38 PM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/georgiy/brothel.jpg
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 08:39 PM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/georgiy/escape.jpg
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 09:26 PM
I think this information is too good to just let it slip away in the posts so I made it sticky. If anyone wants to add to this please be my guest. Also, if anyone else wants to make some really good threads in the opposition section for anti's to ponder at, I'll make them sticky too so we can have a nice little chunk of info for antis that they may not have known.
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 10:04 PM
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=1217
The Jews and Slavery
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/08slave.htm
Ossian
March 22nd, 2004, 10:13 PM
Being predatory by nature may give the Jews certain survival advantages, but also tends to get them into trouble a lot more often than is the case for most other groups.
It also makes it very difficult for them to have a
"normal" mode of existence: that is, to live only
among themselves, instead of as a minority among
non-Jews.
In Israel, for example, aside from the Palestinians, and
aside from the white women they import as sex slaves from
eastern Europe, they have no one to prey on but
themselves. Convincing their fellow Israelis to invest in
fraudulent stock schemes is not as easy as selling the
Brooklyn Bridge to naďve Gentiles in America, so their
predatory instincts tend to come to the fore in other
ways: in the way they treat their own women, for example.
In this regard recent revelations about the sexual
behavior of male Jews on Israeli kibbutzim are especially
relevant.
The kibbutz, or Jewish communal village, is an Israeli
institution dating from the time before the Second World
War when the Jews were bent on proving to the world the
virtues of communism. Everything in the communes is
community property, including the children and the women.
Children are taken from their parents shortly after being
weaned and thereafter live in dormitories, where an
extraordinarily large number of them are sexually abused.
This sexual abuse of children became entrenched in many
kibbutzim because of taboos against seeking assistance
from police or other authorities outside the kibbutz. The
abusers were protected by a code of silence.
The code of silence was broken when a former kibbutz
member, Nahshon Golatz, filed a lawsuit against the
kibbutz movement and the government of Israel seeking
compensation for the abuse to which he had been subjected
as a child.
His lawsuit has opened a floodgate, and hundreds of other
former kibbutz members have come forward with their own
horror stories: stories which most Jews would prefer to
keep quiet.
Several newspapers in Britain, including the Times and
the Independent, reported some of the details, and this
in turn has encouraged other kibbutz victims to speak
out.
Especially horrifying is the picture which has emerged of
the treatment of women and girls in the kibbutzim. Rape
is a common feature of kibbutz life. Women, teen-aged
girls, even children as young as three years old are
regularly raped, unless they have a male protector who is
strong enough to fight off the gangs of rapists who prey
on them. Gang rape of unprotected women is an especially
popular sport among male kibbutzniks.
A report which appeared in the British newspaper the
Independent on January 20, 2001, quotes an Israeli woman,
herself a former kibbutznik, who heads a rape-crisis
center in Israel, and I am quoting from that portion of
the report in which she speaks: "'There were girls
who were fair game, whom it was permitted to victimize,'
she said. 'A stranger won't understand, but on the
kibbutz, sick as it may sound, the girls who were hurt
were always from weak families.' "She compared the
predatory kibbutz male to 'the tiger in the wild that
marks out the wounded, limping ewe for himself and hurls
himself on her -- that was exactly how the attacking
males, adolescents and adults, in the kibbutz identified
the victims.'"
Bill Pierce
Ossian
March 22nd, 2004, 10:17 PM
From the June 16, 2000 issue of the Jerusalem Post - (Saturday supplement): "Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged, imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's thriving sex industry. In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary, traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers."
The long article is full of heart-rending stories about individual female slaves. One of the stories is about Anna, a 31-year-old unemployed physics teacher from St. Petersburg. She was lured to Israel by a Jew who promised her good working conditions and $1000 a month, which was 20 times what her salary had been in Russia. Now I'll again quote exactly what the Jerusalem Post says about Anna: "Anna arrived here in October 1998 on a tourist visa. She was met at the airport and taken to an apartment and locked up with six other women . . . [from eastern Europe]. She was auctioned twice and finally bought for $10,000. Taken to Haifa, she was held in captivity with two other women. The apartment in which she lived had bars on the windows." Et cetera. The article goes on to say that the Jew who had bought Anna repeatedly reminded her that he knew where her family lived in St. Petersburg, and that he would harm them if she escaped or failed to obey his orders. Anna was not able to escape, but she finally was deported back to Russia by Israeli immigration authorities because her tourist visa had expired. Her former "owner" remains at liberty, and Anna remains in terror that he will one day show up again at her residence in St. Petersburg. Then there is the story of a young woman from Belarus -- from White Russia. Again, exact words of the Jerusalem Post: "Tatiana (not her real name) had been promised a job working as a cleaner in a hotel in Eilat. She was told the job would pay enough to support her mother and six-year-old son. In Eilat a man pretending to be from the hotel where she thought she was going to be employed took her to a brothel, where she was forced to work as a prostitute. She was told that she would have to repay her 'sale price' and travel costs. She tried unsuccessfully to escape and was finally freed after a police raid. She was held in Neveh Tirza. Three days after her arrest Tatiana found an anonymous note on her prison bunk threatening to kill her and punish her family if she spoke out about what had happened to her. She petitioned the chief of police but was told that the Israel Police cannot guarantee anyone's safety abroad. She testified in June 1999 and was deported later that month. . . . Her fate is not known. A police spokesman refused to comment on the case." End of Tatiana's story. Now, listen very carefully, because we are getting to the real meat of this article. I will again write exactly what the Jerusalem Post wrote about the role of the Israeli government and Israeli law in this horrifying business: "In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there legislation against trafficking or slavery, though there is a law forbidding taking people out of the country by force. Police officials complain that in the absence of legislation their options are limited. . . ." Now I'm skipping to another paragraph, and again verbatim: "According to the statistics provided by the Israel Police, in 1997 between 500 and 600 police files were opened under Article 10 of the penal code, which covers prostitution and obscenity offenses. An unknown additional number of cases against traffickers and pimps were also opened under other sections of the penal code, for crimes such as assault, kidnapping, and unlawful possession of passports. And though the police have opened more than 1,100 files during the past three years, only 126 cases against men involved in trafficking have actually been brought to court. During the same period more than 1,200 women were deported from Israel. According to sociologist Esther Herzog, director of Shin -- "The Movement for Equal Representation for Women" -- in 1999 the police arrested more than 400 women but only 28 pimps. And even these minuscule numbers, she says, are probably inflated.
Since there is no law here against trafficking in human beings or slave trading, it is impossible to know how many of the above cases were related to trafficking, and how many were connected to prostitution-related offenses, such as pimping or operating a brothel." End of quote.
I hope that you absorbed that: There is NO LAW in Israel against trafficking in human beings or slave trading -- and consequently there is a flourishing trade in White slaves in Israel today. I didn't write that, and it's not from the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It was written by two female Israeli journalists and published in a prominent Jewish newspaper in Jerusalem. You might wonder why such devastating information was published by a Jewish newspaper. There are a couple of reasons. First, the same feminism which the Jews push so enthusiastically in America has cropped up in Israel too.
The other reason is that the publishers of the Jerusalem Post understand that there's no real danger that Jews will be called to account for their slave trafficking. They understand that they can say whatever they want among themselves with little risk that the soccer moms or couch potatoes of America will ever hear about it; and if they do happen to hear about it, they won't believe it; and even if they do believe it they're too demoralized and spineless to do anything about it. Want to try an experiment? Get yourself a xerox copy of the June 16 Jerusalem Post article from a library. Take your copy of the article to the editor of your local newspaper. Send a copy to your congressman. Have your kid take it to his high school social studies teacher for class discussion. If you're a university student enrolled in a class in international relations or ethics or law or any subject relevant to this article, take it to your professor and ask him what he thinks about it. I'll guarantee you: not one of these people will appreciate having this matter brought to his attention. The newspaper editor and the congressman will already know about it, but they won't want to talk about it. The high school social studies teacher would prefer that your kid bring a case of live hand grenades to class for discussion. And the university professor will have visions of his chances for tenure evaporating if he can't get you to shut up and go away quickly. The average lemming will find the whole issue unreal because he didn't see it on TV. If you talk about it to such people, they'll accuse you of "anti-Semitism," as if they just had an uncontrollable knee-jerk reflex. Or they'll say, "So what? Slavery exists in a few other countries too." (Neither realizing nor caring that it's technically illegal, at least, in those other countries, but quite LEGAL in Israel.) That, unfortunately, is the state of public and private morale in America today.
Ossian
March 22nd, 2004, 10:20 PM
True ethnicity of "Russian" mafia again shown as the Chosen continue Their Tradition
<http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010910/80/c3fji.html>
Sex slavery thrives in Holy Land
Monday September 10, 03:53 AM
By Megan Goldin
NEVE TIRZA PRISON, Israel (Reuters) - Christina, an 18-year-old university student from Moldova, has been bought and sold so many times she has lost count.
Christina, who declined to give her real name, studied classics and anthropology and played basketball as a hobby before she was lured from a rural town in one of Europe's poorest countries to sex slavery in Israel.
She is not alone.
Hundreds of thousands of "Christinas" have been bought like merchandise, beaten, raped and chained in Western brothels in a 21st century form of slavery.
Christina received top marks in her anthropology studies but couldn't scrape together enough money to pay for photocopies, let alone buy textbooks.
Her dire economic situation made her fair game for women hired by criminal gangs to lure young, naive girls from Moldova and other financially-strapped Eastern European countries into prostitution with promises of large sums of money.
"I never thought I would actually have to do it," Christina said in bewilderment. "I thought once I arrived I would find a way to escape and find other work, as a waitress or something."
Christina was flown to Egypt where along with 20 other Moldovan and Russian women aged between about 18 to 24, she was escorted across the Sinai desert into southern Israel by a bedouin smuggler.
They walked over dunes, eventually crawling under a barbed-wire border fence in the middle of the night.
Rolls of money changed hands between the bedouin and the Russian-speaking men who bought the women. Christina doesn't know how much they paid, but the market price for a woman like her in Israel is around $8,000 (5,500 pounds).
NO WAY OUT
Frightened, an illegal alien, unfamiliar with Hebrew or Israeli geography, Christina had no real hope of escaping.
Instead she was taken to a brothel in northern Israel where she was forced to have sex with around 15 men every day, raped, beaten and threatened with death if she ran away.
Eventually she did and is now a witness in a court case against the pimp who bought and mistreated her under a new Israeli law that makes human trafficking punishable by up to 16 years in prison.
"It's very easy. You just put them on a planes, walk them through the desert and you have slaves," said lawyer Nomi Levenkron, who represents women like Christina who are locked in a special wing of the Neve Tirza prison near Tel Aviv while they wait to testify or to be deported for entering Israel illegally.
Sex slavery, or white slavery as it was called in the 19th century, is almost as old as prostitution itself. But it has had a sudden resurgence since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 devastated many eastern European economies.
Women who earn around $20 a month in Moldova are promised $1,000 a month abroad to work as prostitutes. It is a tempting offer for young women with bleak futures in their home countries or burdened with supporting a large family.
Sometimes the women don't know they are being sent to work as prostitutes and are told they will be waitresses or secretaries. Others are simply kidnapped.
Almost always they are trafficked by the local Mafia, frequently on a forged passport and threatened that if they don't behave, their family back home will suffer the consequences.
"They come from a place with no money, a very poor family in a poor village, looking for a better future," said Levenkron, a legal adviser to the Hotline for Migrant Workers, the only organisation in Israel that helps former sex-slaves.
"These women are so naďve, they don't realise people are lying to them," she said.
ISRAEL TRAFFICKING DESTINATION
Israel is a popular destination for the human trade. It is not difficult to smuggle and hide Russian-speaking women in a country where almost a million people originate from the former Soviet Union.
"It's very easy for them to disappear between all the Russian-speaking women in Israel," Levenkron said. "It's very easy for traffickers to bring women here and when you have the supply, you have the demand."
A recent U.S. State Department report on human trafficking put Israel on a list of countries where the phenomenon is rampant. It has until 2003 to implement "minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking" or face stiff economic sanctions.
According to Zahava Gal-On, who heads an Israeli parliamentary committee on trafficking, that means deterring traffickers with hefty prison sentence instead of a few months in jail, the usual punishment handed down by Israeli courts.
It also means putting women like Christina in safe houses instead of jail, thereby encouraging them to stay and testify.
In the past the victim has been locked up, sometimes for as long as six months, while the pimp is let off with a small fine or a brief stay in jail although under the law, it is the brothel owner, not the woman, who has committed a crime.
Like most former sex-slaves, Christina is penniless. Those lucky enough to be paid a paltry sum, usually a few dollars, by their pimps save the money to buy themselves freedom from their brothel-prisons. Often they are sold before they can do so.
"They are slaves and slaves of the worst kind," Levenkron said. "They are disposable people because it's so easy to buy a person".
21ST CENTURY SLAVERY
Human trafficking is becoming a modern day scourge, said Tal Raviv, an advocate for the International Organisation for Migration who works in Kosovo where trafficking is widespread.
"This has become a huge phenomena in the last decade," said Raviv during a visit to Israel. "The estimates are between half a million to 700,000 women trafficked every year just to the West, but the global figures are for millions."
Law enforcement officials say human trafficking is almost as rampant as drug and weapons smuggling. Many of the women being trafficked are forced to work in brothels.
In Africa and Asia, men are often sent to sweatshops and children forced to work in cocoa plantations in West Africa. Some of those trafficked are slated to be unwilling donors for black market organ transplants, Raviv said.
"Trafficking people is much easier than trafficking drugs and weapons," she said.
"It's easier because if you find drugs or the arms, there is no question something illegal has happened. But if you find a person with a passport, how do you know this person is not travelling out of their own free will?"
Raviv says the only difference between the 21st century version of slavery and that of the plantations in the Americas some 200 years ago is that today slavery is illegal.
"When you buy and sell a person, then it means a person is merchandise and that is slavery," Raviv said. "The person has no freedom, no control over his or her fate."
Harry S
March 22nd, 2004, 11:37 PM
The reason for white Russian prostitutes coming to Israel is real simple. Economics. They make more money in Israel being whores than being in the former Soviet Union. Plus Jewish women have enough self-esteem not to become whores in Israel. The problem isn't Israel, the problem is poverty in the ex-USSR. So you have your solution to your "problem". Go fix it rather than cry about it.
T.Garrett
March 22nd, 2004, 11:44 PM
The reason for white Russian prostitutes coming to Israel is real simple. Economics. They make more money in Israel being whores than being in the former Soviet Union. Plus Jewish women have enough self-esteem not to become whores in Israel. The problem isn't Israel, the problem is poverty in the ex-USSR. So you have your solution to your "problem". Go fix it rather than cry about it.
Harry S
Yeah, with jews the problem is always the other guys fault. It couldnt be the fucking problem of the kike whoremasters slaving them to Izrael, huh? Go fuck yourself kike! Have a blessed daye
TG
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 11:46 PM
The reason for white Russian prostitutes coming to Israel is real simple. Economics. They make more money in Israel being whores than being in the former Soviet Union. Plus Jewish women have enough self-esteem not to become whores in Israel. The problem isn't Israel, the problem is poverty in the ex-USSR. So you have your solution to your "problem". Go fix it rather than cry about it.
Just what I thought. Jews aren't responsible for anything. They never harmed anyone and are always the scapegoats and always oppressed. Oy Vey! So those kikes who trick White women into coming to Israel to make more money working as waitresses and such and those kikes who kidnapp White women are not guilty at all? Anti-zemitism, ITZ!
Georgie
March 22nd, 2004, 11:56 PM
Jewish Occupied Governments - USSR
http://www.anti-semitism.net/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html
Would you not say that kikes have had more than their fair share of raping and pillaging Russia and to do the most harm that they possibly could to it. Making it extremely poor so that its citizens starve and have no money and are so desperate that they are reduced to such degenerate status that some of them will do just about anything to get money so they can provide for their families while filthy kikes laugh all the way to the bank over the destruction they have caused.
Nick
March 23rd, 2004, 12:16 AM
The reason for white Russian prostitutes coming to Israel is real simple. Economics. They make more money in Israel being whores than being in the former Soviet Union. Plus Jewish women have enough self-esteem not to become whores in Israel. The problem isn't Israel, the problem is poverty in the ex-USSR. So you have your solution to your "problem". Go fix it rather than cry about it.
So you're saying these women are volunteering to be prostitutes? And you're saying they're volunteering to be prostitutes in izrael?
Why would they voluntarily prostitute themselves in that dump when they have the option of voluntarily prostituting themselves in much wealthier, cleaner and safer places such as Europe and the USA? If they're there voluntarily, why do the kikes confiscate their passports and lock them away the moment they arrive in that shitty little country, to use the French expression.
Most jewish broads will give it away for the price of lunch, or less, so self esteem hasn't anything to do with it. They're not so blonde and blue eyed as the Russians and Ukrainians so they're not as desirable.
Edit: sp
belfastbombshell
March 23rd, 2004, 12:39 AM
[QUOTE=Georgie]I don't suppose you've heard of the White Slave Trade in Israel have you? If you have then I guess this thread is a waste but if you havent then here you go...
Straight from the kikes themselves at the Jerusalem Post.
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/12/02/Features/Features.39142.html
I replied to this earlier but I must have done something wrong as it didn't show up. I do know about the trafficking of women to Israel it was discussed at the Rape Crisis Network Europe meeting this year in Dublin. I have also worked with our City Council to try to stop the trafficking of Eastern Europen women to Northern Ireland. They opened a so-called lap-dancing club and were prosituting Estonian women - we got it closed down but the women dissappeared probably over the border into the Republic. Apparently the Russian Mafia were behind it. I get the point you're making re- Israel but other countries are equally responsible - although if you are a Theocratic country you would think more would be done to stop it. I'm glad Jewish women are campaigning against it. But it appears things are getting worse rather than better.
MortyZuckerbaum
March 23rd, 2004, 02:10 AM
Russian Mafia? Don't you know that us Jews are the "Russians" running that? My cousin Moses in Moscow works with them.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 23rd, 2004, 08:21 AM
Just what I thought. Jews aren't responsible for anything. They never harmed anyone and are always the scapegoats and always oppressed. Oy Vey! So those kikes who trick White women into coming to Israel to make more money working as waitresses and such and those kikes who kidnapp White women are not guilty at all? Anti-zemitism, ITZ!
Yep - Throughout their entire fetid existence on this planet, the jews been the poor, persecuted, "totally-innocent-throughout-history" scapegoats of the human race. They have never, ever done anything that can even be remotely considered detrimental to the rest of mankind, right? These conniving, scheming, parasitic bastards have an answer for everything. Does'nt take a genius to figure out why they're so good at explaining away their past criminal activities. I mean, they've only had a couple thousand years to become masters in the art of denial in their massive cover-up. Just wonder what this latest jewbitch would say if it was Americans who were the chief practitioners of white slavery in the world. Betcha he would change his tune real quick, eh? Fuckin' typical hypocrite kike. Ptui!
Harry S
March 23rd, 2004, 11:52 AM
Just what I thought. Jews aren't responsible for anything.
Did I say that? Nope. But that is typical irrational racist behavior for you.
But what it appears you are telling me is so called white prostitutes from Russia are too stupid to make their own decisions. The truth is, a lot of countries are importing in these whores, not just Israel. As someone else mentioned, it is problem in many countries in Europe also. The women go there because they feel life for them is better there than back in the former USSR.
I have yet to see a post where Georgie calls for "white" people to be responsible for their actions. He always cries "kike, kike, kike" when "white" people mess up.
And I'll say it again. Racist can't even decide among themselves who is "white" or who is "white" enough. It does make for great entertainment to watch you debate that issue also.
Spandau
March 23rd, 2004, 12:12 PM
Did I say that? Nope. But that is typical irrational racist behavior for you.
But what it appears you are telling me is so called white prostitutes from Russia are too stupid to make their own decisions. The truth is, a lot of countries are importing in these whores, not just Israel. As someone else mentioned, it is problem in many countries in Europe also. The women go there because they feel life for them is better there than back in the former USSR.
I have yet to see a post where Georgie calls for "white" people to be responsible for their actions. He always cries "kike, kike, kike" when "white" people mess up.
And I'll say it again. Racist can't even decide among themselves who is "white" or who is "white" enough. It does make for great entertainment to watch you debate that issue also.
It's great entertainment to see you anti's here. It enlivens my day a little bit. And for your info, Some racists, a few, can't seem to decide who is white et al. If you are going to debate us, get your facts straight. And yes, There are way too many stupid white folk in this world. With alot of stupid white folk on our back, do you think we need to carry the jews and all of the inferior races on top of them?
Harry S
March 23rd, 2004, 12:22 PM
do you think we need to carry the jews
Jews outperform whites on average in the US, much more than whites outperform blacks. Since many of racist claim the Jews run everything, it sounds like the Jews are the ones employing and taking care of the whites in the US if you believe what the racist have been saying.
To be a "white" supremacist means being totally in denial. When will "white" racist start taking responsibility for their own failures?
:)
T.Garrett
March 23rd, 2004, 01:15 PM
Jews outperform whites on average in the US, much more than whites outperform blacks. Since many of racist claim the Jews run everything, it sounds like the Jews are the ones employing and taking care of the whites in the US if you believe what the racist have been saying.
To be a "white" supremacist means being totally in denial. When will "white" racist start taking responsibility for their own failures?
:)
Harry Silverstein
Please clarify ‘jews outperform Whites on average in the US’. How do they ‘outperform’ us? From which people did this country originate from(assuming you live in the US)? Not ashkenazim.Whose language are we conversing in right now, and whose language do you think with, itz not hee-brew is it? My opinion is jews are not creators or originators, they merely ride the bus with the rest of ‘em. A bus built and driven by Whites. They are just successful at exploiting a system which was already in place for them. And they trumpet this success to the whole world through the mass media. Self aggrandizement and promotion are what jews are really best at. Disagree with me? Shalom
TG
Harry S
March 23rd, 2004, 01:37 PM
Harry S. They are just successful at exploiting a system which was already in place for them.
In other words, they have been able to outperform you in your own system. Jews make more money on average, complete college more often, becomes doctors, lawyers, scientist more often. Their IQ's are 20 points higher in the US on average. And you can't stand it. They outperform you plain and simple. And the reason they outperform? I'll let you answer that one.
Thanks again for admitting you are inferior to the Jew.
Steve B
March 23rd, 2004, 01:45 PM
In other words, they have been able to outperform you in your own system. Jews make more money on average, complete college more often, becomes doctors, lawyers, scientist more often. Their IQ's are 20 points higher in the US on average. And you can't stand it. They outperform you plain and simple. And the reason they outperform? I'll let you answer that one.
Thanks again for admitting you are inferior to the Jew.
By this logic Israel should be the powerhouse of the world due to so many "high IQ jews" instead of the basket case it is!
Spandau
March 23rd, 2004, 01:48 PM
By this logic Israel should be the powerhouse of the world due to so many "high IQ jews" instead of the basket case it is!
The jew, for all it's alleged intelligence, is always a parasite.
T.Garrett
March 23rd, 2004, 03:20 PM
Harry Silverstein
When the jews lived in tents in the desert herding goats, our ancestors built cities in Mesopotamia, Egypt and later Greece and Rome. Where is the jewish equivalent of these accomplishments jewboy? Jews are a second class people, history proves this. Deny this kike, or maybe change the subject again or misrepresent what one of us says. Jews are shit. Cheers
TG
Nick
March 23rd, 2004, 03:56 PM
Try and name three items you use in your everyday life that were invented by jews. They go on and on about the nobel prize even though that's essentially a popularity contest similar to the academy awards. Those are pats on the back from jew-dazed European guilt trippers (holocaust ya know...) for abstract scientific musing that leads to.....what? As far as actually creating anything that is useful or beautiful, I can't think of much. Harry will mention the salk vaccine, but let's see what else he's got. Most jews I've known can't change a lightbulb, let alone invent one.
Edit: Excellent point Gott, that was a glaring omission on my part. I should have said "useful or beautiful." Nick
Gott
March 23rd, 2004, 04:12 PM
Try and name three items you use in your everyday life that were invented by jews. They go on and on about the nobel prize even though that's essentially a popularity contest similar to the academy awards. Those are pats on the back from jew-dazed European guilt trippers (holocaust ya know...) for abstract scientific musing that leads to.....what? As far as actually creating anything useful, I can't think of much. Harry will mention the salk vaccine, but let's see what else he's got. Most jews I've known can't change a lightbulb, let alone invent one.
They create jew dominated 'committees of experts' to award prizes to each other - just read jew Bernays on this subject. Just look at the history of painting, music and architecture before the late 19th century and you find literally NO kikes. There is NO kike architecture, there is NO kike painting and there is NO kike music. The extremely few exceptions (Mendelssohn for instance - whose academic music is entirely western without even a hint of jew in it) prove the rule. If there is a single exceptional yid painter or architect in all history before they started taking over those fields and awarding each other commissions and prizes...I would be interested in finding out about it.
Oh yeah, the same goes for literature - other than truly disgusting examples of humanity like Heinrich Heine (who even other kikes despised), where is the jew Virgil, or Dante, or Shakespeare, or Austen?
A more sterile dead race has never existed. Even the pitiful niggers tried to mush mud together to make idiot masks and such. Kikes? NOTHING.
T.Garrett
March 23rd, 2004, 04:20 PM
hashem
In other words, they have been able to outperform you in your own system. Jews make more money on average, complete college more often, becomes doctors, lawyers, scientist more often. Their IQ's are 20 points higher in the US on average. And you can't stand it. They outperform you plain and simple. And the reason they outperform? I'll let you answer that one …
Where the fuck did I say ‘outperform’ kikey? And where the fuck did I agree with anything you said? LOL! I said successfully exploit. Like the Mexicans and blacks exploit our system. Admit it, your insecurity drives you to fabricate these superlative ‘stats’ about jews. Itz just like the well known fact that women always tell me about how jewboys always exaggerate their penis size ‘cause on the average its very small. And you know that’s true. All these statistics you refer to about jews, where is your proof? Show us!
You’re just another insecure little jew who found our website and you’re ‘appalled’ by our view of der ewige jude. Well get used to it, your days of being tolerated in this country, as well as the rest of the planet are OVER. I couldn’t care how ‘smart’ jews are, history shows you juden are a negative wherever you live, I just want you greasy fucking aliens out of my country. WTF iz all that bullshit about in the ME, a stolen ‘homeland’ for joos, right? Why don’t you all go and live in your walled around jew welfare ghetto Izrael? WTF are you people still doing here? Juden Raus! :D
TG
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 04:21 PM
absolutely right on Gott. negroids have interesting capacity for rhythms and jazzbo musical chaos and so forth no doubt related to their particular evolution in Afrikwa. They are a genuine race with genuine ethnic components. Though they are obviously less complex organisms, at least they are not by nature parasites. Now when they are put on the tit of White man's foreign aid made possible by our science and technology of course they overpopulate and develop large parasitic populations, but that is under the tutelage of the kikenvermin....
Jews on the other hand as wandering parasites have only evolved an expertise at chameleon like infiltration and camoflage. Part of this process is the miscegenating with the host population. Thus you have your blonde ashekenazim and your swarthy sephardim. And so, as the handful of allegedly creative Jews like Mendelsohn or Mahler, no doubt they Aryan genes were in control and acting under the influence of the glorious German kultur they grew up in.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 04:23 PM
DID I MENTION EINSTEIN IS A PROVEN PLAGIARIST OF THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY DEVELOPED BY CZECH SCIENTISTS? LOL the only thing he originated was the idea of a nuclear weapon which now menaces all humanity!! IS THAT WHAT KIKES MEAN BY TIKKUN OLAM? WORLDWIDE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST? BROUGHT TO US BY OPPENHEIMER AND EINSTEIN, JEWS!
Harry S
March 23rd, 2004, 04:30 PM
TG
Jews were around long before Greece and Rome. Egypt and Mesopotamia were non-white and mixed whites. Lots of black artifacts from that time period. How many white artificats or buildings do you find in "white" Europe from 4,000 years ago? Jews had an alphabet long before the Europeans did. White Europeans were living in caves while Judah and Israel were thriving. Check your history. Many, many accomplishments to Jewish culture from 1000's of years ago still exist in Israel. Meanwhile the non-Jewish whites have spent centuries trying to kill each other in Europe.
And you claim to be superior but your own movement is full of informants, crackpots, and the mentally paranoid. You are bottom of the social ladder. Even most whites hate you nazi types. And watching your decline over the past few years has been entertaining. Watching kooks gain control of your splintered groups is entertaining. Even Alex Linder got duped by Bill White and Alex Linder basically shitted all over you guys until it become so obvious.
Yes, you are entertainment to behold!
Gott
March 23rd, 2004, 04:30 PM
DID I MENTION EINSTEIN IS A PROVEN PLAGIARIST OF THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY DEVELOPED BY CZECH SCIENTISTS? LOL the only thing he originated was the idea of a nuclear weapon which now menaces all humanity!! IS THAT WHAT KIKES MEAN BY TIKKUN OLAM? WORLDWIDE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST? BROUGHT TO US BY OPPENHEIMER AND EINSTEIN, JEWS!
Hey wait a minute there buddy...That is plagiarist of a theory developed AND published by an ITALIAN scientist. Jeeez.
Harry S
March 23rd, 2004, 04:31 PM
PLONK
Love your paranoia.
T.Garrett
March 23rd, 2004, 04:50 PM
Jews were around long before Greece and Rome. Egypt and Mesopotamia were non-white and mixed whites. Lots of black artifacts from that time period. How many white artificats or buildings do you find in "white" Europe from 4,000 years ago? Jews had an alphabet long before the Europeans did. White Europeans were living in caves while Judah and Israel were thriving. Check your history. Many, many accomplishments to Jewish culture from 1000's of years ago still exist in Israel. Meanwhile the non-Jewish whites have spent centuries trying to kill each other in Europe.
And you claim to be superior but your own movement is full of informants, crackpots, and the mentally paranoid. You are bottom of the social ladder. Even most whites hate you nazi types. And watching your decline over the past few years has been entertaining. Watching kooks gain control of your splintered groups is entertaining. Even Alex Linder got duped by Bill White and Alex Linder basically shitted all over you guys until it become so obvious.
Yes, you are entertainment to behold!
hashem silverstein
First of all slimy sheenie, jEWS ARE NOT WHITE. The Izraelis have some balls asking to join the EU. Same for the fucking Turks. You are non-whites! And as for ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt, what are you one of those Afrocentric style kooks everyone laughs at behind their backs, LOL? You must be kidding right? Jews learned how to write while they were enslaved by OUR ANCESTORS so they could serve us better in ancient Mesopotamia fool. Jews owe everything they have to us. Copy cat slave race!
Now, as for the proof of these jewish accomplishments in America, where are they? I notice you made no mention of them in your last post to me, jewboy. The last half of your post is a sophomoric jewstyle attack on WN, which bye the way, you know fuckshit about kikey. Been reading Bill White’s website, have ya? Still waiting on the proof of these great jewish accomplishments, lampshade. Your silence on this is deafening, LOL. Have a blessed day jude
TG
PS PUT UP OR SHUT UP JEWBOY!
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 23rd, 2004, 05:05 PM
Love your paranoia.A kike inferring that others are paranoid ? Odd, coming from a member of a race that spends more time on the psychiatrist's couch than any other.
Look out, jewboy! I think I see a Nazi crawling out from under that bed! And there's another coming up behind you! "There's Nazis everywhere, oi vey! They're goink to gas us, Sol - vhat are we goink to do???"
Gott
March 23rd, 2004, 05:19 PM
Jews were around long before Greece and Rome.
Jews are people, Greece and Rome are places. If you are talking organized societies, then learn to say so. Israel has existed for brief periods of time at any time in world history. The last time before the current, and soon to end (just look at jew immigration to the zionist state - it is dead), jew episode ended when Titus sacked your capital city. That was almost 2000 years ago. Try reading a book.
Egypt and Mesopotamia were non-white and mixed whites.
Why don't you try and learn how to write before trying to? Like most of this and your other posts, this remark of yours is gibberish. In you, we have merely the latest in a long line of Jew nerds who come here to try and show off. But, you need to know how to think and write before you can hope to do that, sonny. It is amazing how exactly all you kikes come off the same template. You strut in here too full of your own bullshit to think that other kikes just like you have been wandering in here every fucking week since this place began, trying to work exactly the same scam. We have seen your act before, sonny. Many times. It's very funny in a cheap sort of way. You want to know the rest of the tired little jewboy scenario? You will not be able to control the discussion, you will not be able to buy off the moderators, you will be savaged and shot down and finally slime away with your deformed, mutilated dick between your legs. Like all the other hideous jews before you and all the other hideous jews that will follow you. All you are doing is providing some VERY EASY LAUGHS, at your own yid expense. Of course, with writing skills like those you display, you very well could literally be a retard - congenital mental diseases are well known in the kikes. This is the principal reason such large numbers were sent back to Europe after they landed at Ellis Island. Sent back as DEFECTIVE.
Lots of black artifacts from that time period.
Jesus F. Christ, retard might be too mild a term. Maybe English isn't your first, or second, or third language, huh? Just like thinking is also quite a secondary...or tertiary concern? Lots of black artifacts from that time period eh? What the fuck is a black artifact? Is that an artifact that is black? And if you mean artifacts that are the detritus of black cultures....then 1.) say so, and 2.) put up or shut up. What artifacts, specifically? Save your kike double talk for kike forums. And, what time period is 'that time period', Einstein??? Vague don't work here jewboy.
How many white artifacts or buildings do you find in "white" Europe from 4,000 years ago?
Thousands and thousands of them, kike. Go and get yourself copies of M. Gimbutas' many books - chock full of pictures of those thousands and thousands of artifacts from European pre history. And perhaps, being a jew and thus totally unacquainted with any genuine culture, you have never heard of the extensive prehistoric cave paintings all over Europe? Or the extensive remains of prehistoric tools, artistic and religious artifacts from all over Europe? That's because you are a barren, sterile, dead jew, like all the rest of your accursed race - hated with a white hot hatred by the overwhelming majority of the human race.
Many, many accomplishments to Jewish culture from 1000's of years ago still exist in Israel.
More bull shit. Name them and provide sources for the pictures, jewboy.
You are just the most recent in a non stop parade of pimply faced jew geeks who stop in here periodically. My guess is probably 12-16 or so, from the grotesque lack of writing ability, and the knee-jerk generalities and PC vagueness of all your posts. You can't get laid, or even look in a mirror for fear it will crack, hate yourself with a white hot hatred, hate your accursed race because you know it is accursed and so come here in your nihilistic desperation to try and feel better about your worthless self. Between special ed classes, no doubt.
Do yourself and the world a favor and finish the job that sick tribal savage started on you when he mutilated your genitals - and chop them off completely. There are enough retards in the world already, you for instance. So, don't bring any more into it. Like the overwhelming majority of the human race, I am eagerly looking forward to the day when you and your entire fucking race are DEAD.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 05:29 PM
Gott, great post. again. Ouch, kikeslime slithers back recoiling in horror.
Hey harry. I'm paranoid but that doesnt mean I'm wrong does it? Ever heard of Martin Van Creveld you porker? Let me know. Ever heard of Seymour Hersch you porker? Israel hasnt joined the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, has it? http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030317fa_fact Israel hasnt ever let IEAA inspectors into Dimona, HAS IT? Fucking lying kike, you know I'm right. Israel put nukes in the air in the 1970s when Egypt was whipping the shit out of em and only Kissenger pulled their nutzim out of the fire.
T.Garrett
March 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
Gott
Do yourself and the world a favor and finish the job that sick tribal savage started on you when he mutilated your genitals - and chop them off completely. There are enough retards in the world already, you for instance. So, don't bring any more into it. Like the overwhelming majority of the human race, I am eagerly looking forward to the day when you and your entire fucking race are DEAD.
Laughing my WAO, fucking rabbinical stone age mutilation itz, by the 'chosen' most ethical pee-ple in the woild! :D
I hope waves of martyrdom bombers fill the streets of Iznt-real in the coming days. Stocked up on beer and chips to watch the action!! :D
88 TG
PS Harry S, the whole world loves your people to death, doesnt it!! LOL!
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
one more thing you fucking pork. Whites say to Jews they hate "nazis" and then they go back and watch "the Hitler Channel" on TV and talk to gramps about his collection of "nazi memorabilia" etc etc etc. What you have in Nazis are Whites who've learned a thing or two from Jews. http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/naz-jud.html
Because most Whites instinctively dislike the clannishness of Jews, they're a bit put off by our clannishness as well. But in the end it will out. 15 mil of you scum cant rule the world for long. Your steppinfetchit Jorge Bush and his jew handlers war hawks perle et al will be gone and then jew kerry-kohn can step into the hotseat and then Republingcuntz will have words for Jews. Bet on it.
Tick-tock-tick time keepz on slippin into the fyootyorr...
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 05:38 PM
you've watched us decline you fuckin pork? good, glad that's the way you see it. you been too much bill white bozo. that's ok, keep tuned into anarchy bill, you never know which way the ball will bounce. but chances are it wont be entirely false or entirely true.
LOL-- yahoodis. There's a reason they make good comedians. The way they look, to begin with........
Steve B
March 23rd, 2004, 06:46 PM
Jews are people, Greece and Rome are places. If you are talking organized societies, then learn to say so. Israel has existed for brief periods of time at any time in world history. The last time before the current, and soon to end (just look at jew immigration to the zionist state - it is dead), jew episode ended when Titus sacked your capital city. That was almost 2000 years ago. Try reading a book.
Why don't you try and learn how to write before trying to? Like most of this and your other posts, this remark of yours is gibberish. In you, we have merely the latest in a long line of Jew nerds who come here to try and show off. But, you need to know how to think and write before you can hope to do that, sonny. It is amazing how exactly all you kikes come off the same template. You strut in here too full of your own bullshit to think that other kikes just like you have been wandering in here every fucking week since this place began, trying to work exactly the same scam. We have seen your act before, sonny. Many times. It's very funny in a cheap sort of way. You want to know the rest of the tired little jewboy scenario? You will not be able to control the discussion, you will not be able to buy off the moderators, you will be savaged and shot down and finally slime away with your deformed, mutilated dick between your legs. Like all the other hideous jews before you and all the other hideous jews that will follow you. All you are doing is providing some VERY EASY LAUGHS, at your own yid expense. Of course, with writing skills like those you display, you very well could literally be a retard - congenital mental diseases are well known in the kikes. This is the principal reason such large numbers were sent back to Europe after they landed at Ellis Island. Sent back as DEFECTIVE.
Jesus F. Christ, retard might be too mild a term. Maybe English isn't your first, or second, or third language, huh? Just like thinking is also quite a secondary...or tertiary concern? Lots of black artifacts from that time period eh? What the fuck is a black artifact? Is that an artifact that is black? And if you mean artifacts that are the detritus of black cultures....then 1.) say so, and 2.) put up or shut up. What artifacts, specifically? Save your kike double talk for kike forums. And, what time period is 'that time period', Einstein??? Vague don't work here jewboy.
Thousands and thousands of them, kike. Go and get yourself copies of M. Gimbutas' many books - chock full of pictures of those thousands and thousands of artifacts from European pre history. And perhaps, being a jew and thus totally unacquainted with any genuine culture, you have never heard of the extensive prehistoric cave paintings all over Europe? Or the extensive remains of prehistoric tools, artistic and religious artifacts from all over Europe? That's because you are a barren, sterile, dead jew, like all the rest of your accursed race - hated with a white hot hatred by the overwhelming majority of the human race.
More bull shit. Name them and provide sources for the pictures, jewboy.
You are just the most recent in a non stop parade of pimply faced jew geeks who stop in here periodically. My guess is probably 12-16 or so, from the grotesque lack of writing ability, and the knee-jerk generalities and PC vagueness of all your posts. You can't get laid, or even look in a mirror for fear it will crack, hate yourself with a white hot hatred, hate your accursed race because you know it is accursed and so come here in your nihilistic desperation to try and feel better about your worthless self. Between special ed classes, no doubt.
Do yourself and the world a favor and finish the job that sick tribal savage started on you when he mutilated your genitals - and chop them off completely. There are enough retards in the world already, you for instance. So, don't bring any more into it. Like the overwhelming majority of the human race, I am eagerly looking forward to the day when you and your entire fucking race are DEAD.
Geeze!!! Don't try to cross brains with Gott! The little beanie boy is going to need a year on the couch after this one!
Glex
March 24th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Geeze!!! Don't try to cross brains with Gott!
Feel free however, to cross brains with Steve B. He will just wimp out of the argument like he always does.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Feel free however, to cross brains with Steve B. He will just wimp out of the argument like he always does.
Glex, it's time to get back to "crossing swords" with other queers in the bathhouse. Begone.
Glex
March 24th, 2004, 01:13 PM
Glex, it's time to get back to "crossing swords" with other queers in the bathhouse. Begone.
Since you responded for Steve B, you've proved my point exactly! He wimped out of the argument in another thread, and his contribution to this thread is yet another cheerleader post. What an apple polisher.
Good job Steve B! Go team! Beat those Anti’s! Rah rah rah!
You however Antiochus, are entirely different. Really.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Since you responded for Steve B, you've proved my point exactly! He wimped out of the argument in another thread, and his contribution to this thread is yet another cheerleader post. What an apple polisher.
Good job Steve B! Go team! Beat those Anti’s! Rah rah rah!
You however Antiochus, are entirely different. Really.
proved your point? LOL In your estimation perhaps. Do you get paid to do this Glex? Or are you so pathetic you do this anti bs for free? You still havent said whether youre a jew or not. ??
Georgie
March 24th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Glex seems to remember quite alot about the VNN forum even in its past incarnations. This means that this guy must have been watching the life of the VNN forums every time they went up, not to mention remembering posts. Im not sure why anyone would do this but could have maybe been someone working for the Feds to keep "track" of this website.
EDIT:Slightly edited cause I completely screwed up some of the grammar there LOL.
belfastbombshell
March 24th, 2004, 08:40 PM
DID I MENTION EINSTEIN IS A PROVEN PLAGIARIST OF THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY DEVELOPED BY CZECH SCIENTISTS? LOL the only thing he originated was the idea of a nuclear weapon which now menaces all humanity!! IS THAT WHAT KIKES MEAN BY TIKKUN OLAM? WORLDWIDE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST? BROUGHT TO US BY OPPENHEIMER AND EINSTEIN, JEWS!
Thank You for resting the case for the Defence
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 24th, 2004, 09:36 PM
Wow! She really gave you the ol' one-two on that one, huh Antiochus? Guess we won't be hearing from you for quite a while. See what a girl can do with half a quart of bathtub gin in her? (Hic!)
Steve B
March 24th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Glex seems to remember quite alot about the VNN forum even in its past incarnations. This measn that this guy must have been watching the live of the VNN forums ever since they went up and remembering posts. Im not sure why anyone would do this but could have maybe been someone working for the Feds to keep "track" of this website.
I noticed that to, Georgie. He seem particularly obsessed with me for some reason. Even to the point of quoting me from posts I made weeks and months ago.Then when I ignore him for a while or so he goes bonkers. He acts like a jilted ex-girlfriend, vindictive and revengeful as hell. Fuckin weird!
I hope this guy/girl/gay doesn't do a stalker routine on me. I'd hate to have Glex show up at my front door in red pumps and a pink thong screaming at me because I don't answer his phone calls....er posts.
Georgie
March 24th, 2004, 10:05 PM
I noticed that to, Georgie. He seem particularly obsessed with me for some reason. Even to the point of quoting me from posts I made weeks and months ago.Then when I ignore him for a while or so he goes bonkers. He acts like a jilted ex-girlfriend, vindictive and revengeful as hell. Fuckin weird!
I hope this guy/girl/gay doesn't do a stalker routine on me. I'd hate to have Glex show up at my front door in red pumps and a pink thong screaming at me because I don't answer his phone calls....er posts.
Now that would be scary lol.
T.Garrett
March 24th, 2004, 10:30 PM
I noticed that to, Georgie. He seem particularly obsessed with me for some reason. Even to the point of quoting me from posts I made weeks and months ago.Then when I ignore him for a while or so he goes bonkers. He acts like a jilted ex-girlfriend, vindictive and revengeful as hell. Fuckin weird!
I hope this guy/girl/gay doesn't do a stalker routine on me. I'd hate to have Glex show up at my front door in red pumps and a pink thong screaming at me because I don't answer his phone calls....er posts.
Steve
Mebbe Glex is a GIRL! LOL! :D
TG
Georgie
April 23rd, 2004, 04:22 PM
Bump. Dont want this info to get lost.
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