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Antiochus Epiphanes
March 23rd, 2004, 04:45 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?
Spandau
March 23rd, 2004, 05:08 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?
It is God's way of showing us what Untermensch look and smell like, and that we are loved by comparison.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 23rd, 2004, 05:31 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?I beg your pardon! Just what's so nerdy about these two fine-looking young people?
Gott
March 23rd, 2004, 05:55 PM
I beg your pardon! Just what's so nerdy about these two fine-looking young people?
Well....they look MUCH better this way than any other...I gotta say that much.
Glex
March 24th, 2004, 10:21 AM
why are you jews so nerdy?
Nerdy, like “over a thousand posts on a message board” kind of nerdy? Dunno.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 10:25 AM
I've seen the pics of you you fat little fuck. Are those you? you are pretty paunchy yerself. Are you a nerdy Jew glex or do you just look like one? What's with the cokebottle glasses?
I take time out of my busy day to help rally our people against our mortal foe. I'm limited to the internet because the fucking jews own the media academe etc. I'm not entirely absent from mainstream publication but my favorite unadulterated comments go here.
the question is why a fat little doughboy like yerself would want to come here and post?
Glex
March 24th, 2004, 12:57 PM
I've seen the pics of you you fat little fuck. Are those you? you are pretty paunchy yerself. Are you a nerdy Jew glex or do you just look like one? What's with the cokebottle glasses?
Don’t tell me you really do think those are pictures of me! I know you aren’t that stupid.
Of course, if you are just playing dumb about that, well, you got me! You successfully tricked me ito thinking you are really that stupid. Congrats!
But Antiochus, even if those really were pictures of me, would it change what I've said?
the question is why a fat little doughboy like yerself would want to come here and post?
I keep getting asked that. I post for the same reason you do. To get my point across. Judging by the lack of intelligent responses, I’d say I’m doing alright. Judging by the lack of intelligent responses, I’d still say so.
Let me ask you a question, Antiochus. Why do you have an opposition forum in the first place?
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Glex thinks he's Gilad I guess.
Here's a link to pics of Giladglex romping on the shores of Haifa with shiksa whores: http://bodiesinmotionwithgilad.com/picture_gallery.htm
It's not my forum so I dont know why there's an opposition forum. For sport I imagine. Pray why dont you make your point Giladlex?
Gott
March 24th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Because alot of jews are race mixed bastards. And they run on the femine ideal even there jewish comes from the mothers side. All things that are jew are femine aspects. From chrustanity to its twin marxism.etc Why do you think kikes are always getting plastic surgerons to fix then up.lol
Alot of them look like trolls and goblins.
I've heard the argument that male kikes are just chicks with dicks.
Gotta amend that - chicks with what's left of dicks after they get through butchering them.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 04:25 PM
Because alot of jews are race mixed bastards. And they run on the femine ideal even there jewish comes from the mothers side. All things that are jew are femine aspects. From chrustanity to its twin marxism.etc Why do you think kikes are always getting plastic surgerons to fix then up.lol
Alot of them look like trolls and goblins.
I used to think that and more or less agree with you. Whatever sky-god tendences Yahveh used to have for them I think has totally slipped out of the cult which is now entirely feminine and earthly and particular and cthonic-lunar as opposed to solar. They are a deviation in that direction for sure.
Christianity in its current state does look like the evil twin particularly if you're considering protestant sects. And obviously the Catholics have been pulled along the nose in that direction by the Jews for decades now. However I think there is a core Tradition in Christianity reflected in Catholicism and Orthodoxy and even to a lesser extent in Lutheranism or Anglicanism, which retains importance for us. I know Dr A disagrees. But I believe that to prevail against the Jews we have to develop a more sophisticated sense of how culture ethnicity and religion are interrelated. OVersimplifying is fine for propaganda but there is also a time and place for a more thoughtful consideration of these issues.
cabinger
March 24th, 2004, 05:14 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?
What about Paul Wolfoditz? Ugly mother fucker with the soft voice to match.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 24th, 2004, 05:23 PM
Catholicism is just as shit one arm of the same monster. As to pervail against the kikes all one needs to do is smash them down. Burn the higher ups out of there manisons. And Pol Pot them all. The problem is whites are still too content to do that. Violence with a purpose speaks volumes.
Well like Pol Pot what percentage might you expect to end up killing off your own people along with the enemies you are defining? I dont think these images are going to move anyone in the right direction.
I think there are plenty of lessons from maoist revolutionaries to be taken without assuming that you have to butcher everyone in sight which is essentially what the Khmer Rouge did. Go into the cities shoot half the people and send everyone else out to the fields to starve to death. Great plan.
Antiochus Epiphanes
March 26th, 2004, 01:15 PM
Thank you, that is why I say Pol Pot had the master plan. Despite the number of dead. He was about weeding out alien infulence. The people who fought for the Khmer Rouge became the new ruleing class. And the tratiors and other slags became the new thrall class. Justice does not get any better then that. The best rule and breed and the trash elements are worked in a thrall class.
To some extent that can be done but without piles of skulls of your own peolpe. And in the end, a thrall class bites back. From Sparta to the American South, slavery never lasts and ultimately consumers the slavers.
Gott
March 27th, 2004, 03:50 PM
That is why the goal will be to do away with the thrall class over time. Working them to death like old Pot did is a good way. And maybe some can be redeemed. A Karl class can be the freeman class for those who were not totally for racism but were not against either. The Thrall class would be for the anti white liberal and other such scum.
I see nothing bad about piles of skulls of race tratiors. I think maybe a few million at the most. Alest the christian right wing colation people who blindy support kikeistain for a start. Then most of the priestcasters. Anti white Liberials, coperats and plutocrats. The out right super tratiors can be killed right away as a example I think impaleing them is a good way. And the rest get a slow death in the killing fields. Women of good genes can be spared to be used for breeding.
And the churches can be taxed or burnt in the end. As one of the main goals will be to reprogam people with a better racist religion.
You left out the bastards who run the 'education' racket and the media - propaganda. No crime is bigger than theirs.
KATIEW
March 31st, 2004, 05:47 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?
Hey, goyboy. Here's a list of some 'nerdy' Jewish actors and actresses:
Famous Jews
Jewish Actors/Actresses
Mandy Patinkin
Cary Grant
William Shatner
Alicia Silverstone
Seth Green
Gwyneth Paltrow
Wynona Ryder
Sarah Jessica Parker
Natalie Portman
Harrison Ford
David Duchovny
Robert Downey, Jr.
Jon Lovitz
Yasmine Bleeth
Paul Newman
Bette Midler
Matthew Broderick
Laurence Harvey
Debra Messing
Woody Allen
Dustin Hoffman
Noah Wyle
Kirk Douglas
Ben Stiller
Goldie Hawn
Billy Crystal
Daniel Day-Lewis
Mel Brooks
Ben Kingsley
Michael Douglas
Yves Montand
George Burns
Leonard Nimoy
Kevin Kline
Juliana Marguiles
Peter Falk
Tracy Pollan
Harvey Keitel
Jane Seymour
Peter Sellers
David Arquette
Debra Winger
Richard Dreyfuss
Edward G. Robinson
Michael Landon
Lisa Bonet
Rodney Dangerfield
Lauren Bacall
Elliott Gould
Bronson Pinchot
Piper Laurie
Douglas Fairbanks
Judy Holliday
Tony Curtis
Rob Schneider
Sarah Bernhardt
Jason Alexander
Camryn Manheim
Paul Reiser
Hank Azaria
Red Buttons
Dyan Cannon
Paul Newman
YOU GOYS ARE SUCH ASSHOLES, YA KNOW?
Nick
March 31st, 2004, 06:04 PM
Like we're all supposed to be shocked and amazed.
There isn't a name on that list from jewhoo that the majority of people here didn't know already. I liked Sellers occasionally and a couple others now and then but if the whole bunch disappeared along with their body of "work" I'd hardly care.
Now KATIEW, name your three favorite jewish
1.) Painters
2.) Composers
3.) Architects
4.) Structures designed by jews
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 31st, 2004, 06:05 PM
Hey, hey, what do you know? We've got a new yid in town. And this time it's a jewess . Now......of what significance is this list of vermin supposed to be....if anything, jewbitch?
Did you think you were impressing anyone by listing these Hymiewood faggots and sissies?
Georgie
March 31st, 2004, 10:59 PM
How about this. Why do so many Jews wear glasses?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
March 31st, 2004, 11:17 PM
How about this. Why do so many Jews wear glasses?I dunno. You gonna tell us?
(Eh...the punchline, Georgie, the punchline!?)
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 07:39 AM
Grant and Fairbanks (is he on your list cuz he was dark enough [sr.] to almost be a nigger?) were not kikes. The rest are the ugliest, and for the most part untalented, bunch of bastards (and that is with Hollywood makeup and the 'right' camera angles too!) that ever slithered out from under a rock.
Are you personally as 'talented' and as 'beautiful' as Mel Brook or Woody Allen (a real typical jew looker if ever there was one)? And do I recall seeing Barbard Streisand on your list? Or did your keyboard rebel at memorializing a Kitsch meister of her magnitude and surpassing kike ugliness in the same way that mirrors crack when the typical yid looks into them?
It is a wonderful feature of your race that what you vermin are on the inside is so perfectly mirrored by what you look like.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 09:10 AM
How about this. Why do so many Jews wear glasses?
absolutely. especially the coke bottle kind.
answer: too long looking over the scrolls for new loopholes.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 09:12 AM
........It is a wonderful feature of your race that what you vermin are on the inside is so perfectly mirrored by what you look like.
Jude Suess comes to mind eh?
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 09:26 AM
Jude Suess comes to mind eh?
Actually, I've only seen the last scene of the film and am waiting till a good transfer comes along. Samo for The Eternal Jew.
Did you see the pictures of Thalia Prokopiou at the torch lighting ceremonies at Olympia? Contrast what kikes look like with this contemporary Greek Goddess.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 1st, 2004, 09:29 AM
I don't know where the hell this verminette is coming from, but it just shows the mindset of some of these antis when they think posting a list of Hymiewood actors - of all people - is actually going to impress, or shut us up. As Nick points out - no painters, composers, or architects. Seems like we're dealing with a not-too-bright anti here. Kikes simply are'nt contributors to culture in any way whatsoever. (Unless you consider the shit they spew out of Hymiewood and Jew York, "culture"). Jews are incapable of creativity, as Matt Hale might say. Now, if she'd drawn-up a list of famous jewish businessmen who have been extremely proficient at fuckin'-over the goyim, well hey........now we're getting somewhere.
Glex
April 1st, 2004, 09:53 AM
As Nick points out - no painters,
Marc Chagall
Daniel Moritz Oppenheim
Max Lieberman
Max Weber
C. D. Rosenthal
composers,
Aaron Copland
Felix Mendelssohn
“Heer’s” a whole list of them http://www.milkenarchive.org/
Hey Hoax, how many musicals did you compose today? How many paintings did you paint today? Sketches? Ballets? Light Operas?
None?
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 10:15 AM
Actually, I've only seen the last scene of the film and am waiting till a good transfer comes along. Samo for The Eternal Jew.
Did you see the pictures of Thalia Prokopiou at the torch lighting ceremonies at Olympia? Contrast what kikes look like with this contemporary Greek Goddess.
I'll have to take a look at that again. I've seen the film and have it on vid, but didnt know the torchlighter was a Greekette. going to have to get that on dvd too--
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 10:30 AM
Marc Chagall ... I'll give you Mahler and Mendelsohn, but Chagall? You call that crap art? Disjointed, disorganized, kitschy chickenscratch. Gimmickry, with all the clowns and menorah and crap. Owning a "marc chagall" is a sign someone is a) an easy touch for a art merchants, and b) has a lack of taste in paintings.
The only reason Chagall gets any attention is his conspicuous Jewishness. If a Jew were really good, he wouldnt need to call attention to his Jewishnes.
The recent Opera News devoted to Halevy's opera was an example of this. All about this one ouvre. Why, are there any others? And if this particular one were so great, would it need to be all about some poooooor jewboy? Would any non-jews give a crap were it not for all the Jews infesting the managerial and administrative functions of serious music in the US? Not the creative parts mind you-- mostly just the "back office" crap. But he who holds the purse strings.......
Let me tell you what a "good jew" in the arts does. He tries to create good art. He doesnt use his jewishness as a selling point like Chagall. You wouldnt know a "good jew" in the arts is even a Jew.
but you see, this is the essence of Jew: A PEOPLE THAT SHALL DWELL ALONE. If they ever really become part of "humanity," they lose their "Jewishness." That is why it is silly for antiracists to debate WNs about Jews. Jews are extrremist tribalists. Tribalism is one thing Jews and WN have in common-- after a fashion. If anything, the constant bad example of Jews leads WN to reflexively err in directions reminiscent of Jews.
The best antiracist, would be one who condemns Jewry as a completely aberrant phenomenon. The true universalist egalitarian cannot tolerate Jews being separate.
In all frankness, I think a measure of tribalism is necessary to a well grounded personality. Ancient Greeks called that ethnicity. Jews take it way too far. That should be balanced by an appreciation for certain universal truths applicable to all living creatures and Nature itself. There is a golden mean between ethnicity and finding your place in Nature, and Jews have no clue of it.
For now, Whites are on the defensive and responding to a weakening of our organic systems by years of Jew parasitism that has reached a critical stage. For Whites, a burst of tribalism is needed to salvage our mere existence. When the balance has been corrected, that will naturally subside. We'll try to remember the lessons of this struggle, for even if Jews cease to be a problem, no doubt social parasitism will continue to be a problem for all human societies. Let's just hope the Jews dont do in all humanity in the process with their endless fomenting of strife and discord and now all the nukes in the mix. "Tikkun olam" to a jew may mean "the sampson option" spinning out of control.
KATIEW
April 1st, 2004, 10:35 AM
How about this. Why do so many Jews wear glasses?
Because we use our eyes to STUDY and LEARN! I guess you people wouldn't know about that. I mean public schools are filled with illiterate asses, goyboys! And they aren't just black. They're filled with kids whose only goal in life is to be like Britney Spears, hehehe. :p
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 11:06 AM
Marc Chagall
Daniel Moritz Oppenheim
Max Lieberman
Max Weber
C. D. Rosenthal
Aaron Copland
Felix Mendelssohn
“Heer’s” a whole list of them http://www.milkenarchive.org/
Hey Hoax, how many musicals did you compose today? How many paintings did you paint today? Sketches? Ballets? Light Operas?
None?
This is too fucking ridiculous. Daniel Moritz Oppenheim? Max Lieberman, and C. D. Rosenthal, eh??? Even Chagal is a fucking JOKE who nobody with a brain talks about anymore as his stuff is now an embarrassment to kikedom. You gotta keep up to date, dickhead! Kikes know their stuff is the definition of shit and therefore the old shit has to be dumped when it starts to smell, to be replaced by new shit - and thus 'progressivism' was born. Chagal - finger painting by an arthritic. Yes indeed...what's Raphael, Durer, Rembrandt, Fra Bartolomeo, Andrea del Sarto, Gustav Moreau, Titian, David, Ingres, Bruegel, Bottecelli, Vermeer, Correggio, Rossetti, Corot, Delacroix, Van Dyke, Bellini, Michelangelo, Bouguereau, Whistler, Gerome, Giotto, Friedrich, Turner, and about a million White Male European painters next to Daniel Moritz Oppenheim? How come you didn't mention Neil Simon and how superior his 'product' is to Shakespeare? Right up your moron alley.
And, in music, if anything, the gigantic abyss is even larger between what an army of White European Male composers of genius did and the infinitesimal, pitifully immitative works of a handful of mostly lousy jews. Mendelssohn - how truly absurd. A fine 3 rate academic composer who did his best work when he was 18 fucking years old and sank deeper and deeper into academic deadwood from that point on. Everything he wrote is a copy of what White Male European composers did first, and better. He was also a devout Christian and wrote an Oratorio called St. Paul which is one of the most uncompromising attacks on jewry that exists. Not the best choice for an echt kike composer, Einstein. No one in their right mind listens to a Mendelssohn symphony when there are symphonies by Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Bruckner and again - about a million other White European Male composers - to listen to. You are too fucking brain dead to even know, let alone mention, the only decent kike composers. Your kiked education NO DOUBT. Aaron Copland!!!! That non-stop dirge he called his life work...going to the dentist is both more fun and far more edifying than listening to the repetitive and derivative stuff he wrote. And who knows a fucking note that non-entity wrote outside of the one stinking ballet score, eh? There is literally no such thing as a jew composer until the jews took over the European media in the mid 19th century. Then they did what they do now, and which obviously so impresses people of small minds such as yourself - trumpet their own lousy hack 'artists.'
Not to startle that tiny little brain of yours too much, but serious music is as dead today as is real painting - and both for the same exact reason. The jew poison that took them over and killed them with the likes of your named 'artists.' Just ask anyone who actually goes to concerts or museums how popular 'modern' let alone 'post modernist' art or music is with anyone at all. Symphony concerts mostly stay away from that garbage because the paying public WON'T GO when they program it. That - murder - is the jew contribution to music and painting.
When you talk about 'musicals' you are on firmer ground because most of that easy, accessible, empty, mind-rot was indeed written by kikes. It fits them like a glove - superficial and designed to destroy minds - yours being the perfect example.
Ever even hear of Mahler or Alkan? OF COURSE NOT - you're too fucking busy with your vibrant kike/nigger pop culture for that. But it doesn't stop you from making a total asshole of yourself by posting on a subject you obviously know NOTHING about. So go back to sucking out jew assholes and grooving with your nigger pals. And fuck yourself while you’re at it.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 11:10 AM
I'll give you Mahler and Mendelsohn, but Chagall? You call that crap art? Disjointed, disorganized, kitschy chickenscratch. Gimmickry, with all the clowns and menorah and crap. Owning a "marc chagall" is a sign someone is a) an easy touch for a art merchants, and b) has a lack of taste in paintings.
The only reason Chagall gets any attention is his conspicuous Jewishness. If a Jew were really good, he wouldnt need to call attention to his Jewishnes.
The recent Opera News devoted to Halevy's opera was an example of this. All about this one ouvre. Why, are there any others? And if this particular one were so great, would it need to be all about some poooooor jewboy? Would any non-jews give a crap were it not for all the Jews infesting the managerial and administrative functions of serious music in the US? Not the creative parts mind you-- mostly just the "back office" crap. But he who holds the purse strings.......
Let me tell you what a "good jew" in the arts does. He tries to create good art. He doesnt use his jewishness as a selling point like Chagall. You wouldnt know a "good jew" in the arts is even a Jew.
but you see, this is the essence of Jew: A PEOPLE THAT SHALL DWELL ALONE. If they ever really become part of "humanity," they lose their "Jewishness." That is why it is silly for antiracists to debate WNs about Jews. Jews are extrremist tribalists. Tribalism is one thing Jews and WN have in common-- after a fashion. If anything, the constant bad example of Jews leads WN to reflexively err in directions reminiscent of Jews.
The best antiracist, would be one who condemns Jewry as a completely aberrant phenomenon. The true universalist egalitarian cannot tolerate Jews being separate.
In all frankness, I think a measure of tribalism is necessary to a well grounded personality. Ancient Greeks called that ethnicity. Jews take it way too far. That should be balanced by an appreciation for certain universal truths applicable to all living creatures and Nature itself. There is a golden mean between ethnicity and finding your place in Nature, and Jews have no clue of it.
For now, Whites are on the defensive and responding to a weakening of our organic systems by years of Jew parasitism that has reached a critical stage. For Whites, a burst of tribalism is needed to salvage our mere existence. When the balance has been corrected, that will naturally subside. We'll try to remember the lessons of this struggle, for even if Jews cease to be a problem, no doubt social parasitism will continue to be a problem for all human societies. Let's just hope the Jews dont do in all humanity in the process with their endless fomenting of strife and discord and now all the nukes in the mix. "Tikkun olam" to a jew may mean "the sampson option" spinning out of control.
Great minds think alike:)
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 12:09 PM
Great minds think alike:)
"fingerpainting by an arthritic." JFC, that is hilarious.
let's just say, at least the suckers who buy him, are smart enough to give these worthless canvasses away to second rate museum collections at an inflated value as part of their income tax deductions. usually they're the mercantile type to begin with eh?
I went to a nephrologist's house once for a local music related party. the guy had a big blue Chagall hanging there. I walked in with some folks-- who definitely knew Chagall and knew better-- and we all raised eyebrows at that. I said, "Gee, now I really a need a scotch." Nuff said.
here's what it says when this type of bozo gets a Chagall:
a) I wanted a painting that people like me who have only a bare minimum of exposure to painting may still be able to recognize,
b) I'm richer than my average visitor but not so rich I could afford something really good,
c) I'm a democrat/ I like kikes.
Now why do those three things so often go hand in hand?
Glex
April 1st, 2004, 12:16 PM
mindless blather snipped
Gott, please pull your head out of your gay lover’s ass and read what I posted. Hoax said “no jews are creative”. None! I gave a list of creative jews. Jews that have done painting, music, and other arts. If you think the things they produce are crap, that’s your opinion. But they do exist.
You said: “No one in their right mind listens to a Mendelssohn symphony when there are symphonies by Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Bruckner and again - about a million other White European Male composers - to listen to.”
No one at all, huh? What a fucking moron you are. Do you practice being this stupid?
I’m no fan of Chagall. I think most of Copland’s stuff is populist and unchallenging. But it does exist. So go fuck yourself, idiot.
You said: “When you talk about 'musicals' you are on firmer ground because most of that easy, accessible”
So you concede my point! Good job asslick!
Come back when you can make a decent point without resorting to smears like the jews you hate. How’s that sound, cocksucker? Can you do that?
KATIEW
April 1st, 2004, 12:24 PM
Hey, hey, what do you know? We've got a new yid in town. And this time it's a jewess . Now......of what significance is this list of vermin supposed to be....if anything, jewbitch?
Did you think you were impressing anyone by listing these Hymiewood faggots and sissies?
whatsa matter, fucking goy. Fucking pimple faced, pasty looking goy. Hiding behind your computer, eh? Hey, we 'hymies' will be here long after you assholes are good for the maggots (feelin' sorry for the maggots already having to feast on your rotten flesh). hehehe! :D
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 03:04 PM
jews are TOTALLY non creative, no-talent parasites. There isn't a single jew 'artist' who is or has ever been worth a shit. Not in any field, not ever. The best any of them can apire to is 3rd rate - and even then only by totally aping Aryan models. Just like the 'real' kikes on this board who are identical to each other, so too are kikes in the arts. Stencils and tracings aren't art, dip shit. Save your shuyster double talk for the real jews, you lemming traitor.
Mindless blather (IE Glex; everything he is and says) snipped.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:27 PM
Quite imperceptibly the "Creditor of Kings" has become the King of Creeds, and we really cannot take this monarch's pleading for emancipation as otherwise than uncommonly naive, seeing that it is much rather we who are shifted into the necessity of fighting for emancipation from the Jews. According to the present constitution of this world, the Jew in truth is already more than emancipate: he rules, and will rule, so long as Money remains the power before which all our doings and our dealings lose their force. That the historical adversity [08] of the Jews and the rapacious rawness of Christian-German potentates have brought this power within the hands of Israel's sons — this needs no argument of ours to prove. That the impossibility of carrying farther any natural, any 'necessary' and truly beauteous thing, upon the basis of that stage whereat the evolution of our arts has now arrived, and without a total alteration of that basis — that this has also brought the public Art-taste of our time between the busy fingers of the Jew, however, is the matter whose grounds we here have to consider somewhat closer. What their thralls had toiled and moiled to pay the liege-lords of the Roman and the Medieval world, to-day is turned to money by the Jew: who thinks of noticing that the guileless-looking scrap of paper is slimy with the blood of countless generations? What the heroes of the arts, with untold strain consuming lief and life, have wrested from the art-fiend of two millennia of misery, to-day the Jew converts into an art-bazaar (Kunstwaarenwechsel): who sees it in the mannered bricabrac, that it is glued together by the hallowed brow-sweat of the Genius of two thousand years?
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:29 PM
The Jew — who, as everyone knows, has a God all to himself — in ordinary life strikes us primarily by his outward appearance, which, no matter to what European nationality we belong, has something disagreeably [09] foreign to that nationality: instinctively we wish to have nothing in common with a man who looks like that. This must heretofore have passed as a misfortune for the Jew: in more recent times, however, we perceive that in the midst of this misfortune he feels entirely well; after all his successes, he needs must deem his difference from us a pure distinction. Passing over the moral side, in the effect of this in itself unpleasant freak of Nature, and coming to its bearings upon Art, we here will merely observe that to us this exterior can never be thinkable as a subject for the art of re-presentment.: if plastic art wants to present us with a Jew, it mostly takes its model from sheer phantasy, with a prudent ennobling, or entire omission, of just everything that characterises for us in common life the Jew's appearance. But the Jew never wanders on to the theatric boards: the exceptions are so rare and special, that they only confirm the general rule. We can conceive no representation of an antique or modern stage-character by a Jew, be it as hero or lover, without feeling instinctively the incongruity of such a notion. [10] This is of great weight: a man whose appearance we must hold unfitted for artistic treatment — not merely in this or that personality, but according to his kind in general — neither can we hold him capable of any sort of artistic utterance of his [11] [inner] essence.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:30 PM
Now, to make poetry in a foreign tongue has hitherto been impossible, even to geniuses of highest rank. Our whole European art and civihisation, however, have remained to the Jew a foreign tongue; for, just as he has taken no part in the evolution of the one, so has he taken none in that of the other; but at most the homeless wight has been a cold, nay more, a hostile looker-on. In this Speech, this Art, the Jew can only after-speak and after-patch — not truly make a poem of his words, an artwork of his doings.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:31 PM
From that turning-point in our social evolution where Money, with less and less disguise, was raised to the virtual patent of nobility, the Jews — to whom money-making without actual labour, i.e. Usury, had been left as their only trade — the Jews not merely could no longer be denied the diploma of a new society that needed naught but gold, but they brought it with them in their pockets. Wherefore our modern Culture, accessible to no one but the well-to-do, remained the less a closed book to them, as it had sunk into a venal article of Luxury. Henceforward, then, the cultured Jew appears in our Society; his distinction from the uncultured, the common Jew, we now have closely to observe. The cultured Jew has taken the most indicible pains to strip off all the obvious tokens of his lower co-religionists: in many a case he has even held it wise to make a Christian baptism wash away the traces of his origin. This zeal, however, has never got so far as to let him reap the hoped-for fruits: it has conducted only to his utter isolation, and to making him the most heartless of all human beings; to such a pitch, that we have been bound to lose even our earlier sympathy for the tragic history of his stock. His connexion with the former comrades in his suffering, which he arrogantly tore asunder, it has stayed impossible for him to replace by a new connexion with that society whereto he has soared up. He stands in correlation with none but those who need his money: and never yet has money thriven to the point of knitting a goodly bond 'twixt man and man. Alien and apathetic stands the educated Jew in midst of a society
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:34 PM
What issues from the Jews' attempts at making Art, must necessarily therefore bear the attributes of coldness and indifference, even to triviality and absurdity; and in the history of Modern Music we can but class the Judaic period as that of final unproductivity, of stability gone to ruin.
By what example will this all grow clearer to us — ay, wellnigh what other single case could make us so alive to it, as the works of a musician of Jewish birth whom Nature had endowed with specific musical gifts as very few before him? All that offered itself to our gaze, in the inquiry into our antipathy against the Jewish nature; all the contradictoriness of this nature, both in itself and as touching us; all its inability, while outside our footing, to have intercourse with us upon that footing, nay, even to form a wish to further develop the things which had sprung from out our soil: all these are intensified to a positively tragic conflict in the nature, life, and art-career of the early-taken FELIX MENDELSSOHN BARTHOLDY. He has shewn us that a Jew may have the amplest store of specific talents, may own the finest and most varied culture, the highest and the tenderest sense of honour — yet without all these pre-eminences helping him, were it but one single time, to call forth in us that deep, that heart-searching effect which we await from Art [24] because we know her capable thereof, because we have felt it many a time and oft, so soon as once a hero of our art has, so to say, but opened his mouth to speak to us. To professional critics, who haply have reached a like consciousness with ourselves hereon, it may be left to prove by specimens of Mendelssohn's art-products our statement of this indubitably certain thing; by way of illustrating our general impression, let us here be content with the fact that, in hearing a tone-piece of this composer's, we have only been able to feel engrossed where nothing beyond our more or less amusement-craving Phantasy was roused through the presentment, stringing-together and entanglement of the most elegant, the smoothest and most polished figures — as in the kaleidoscope's changeful play of form and colour [25] — but never where those figures were meant to take the shape of deep and stalwart feelings of the human heart. [26] In this latter event Mendelssohn lost even all formal productive-faculty; wherefore in particular where he made for Drama, as in the Oratorio, he was obliged quite openly to snatch at every formal detail that had served as characteristic token of the individuality of this or that forerunner whom he chose out for his model. It is further significant of this procedure, that he gave the preference to our old master BACH, as special pattern for his inexpressive modern tongue to copy. Bach's musical speech was formed at a period of our history when Musics universal tongue was still striving for the faculty of more individual, more unequivocal Expression: pure formalism and pedantry still clung so strongly to her, that it was first through the gigantic force of Bach's own genius that her purely human accents (Ausdruck) broke themselves a vent. The speech of Bach stands toward that of Mozart, and finally of Beethoven, in the relation of the Egyptian Sphinx to the Greek statue of a Man: as the human visage of the Sphinx is in the act of striving outward from the animal body, so strives Bach's noble human head from out the periwig. It is only another evidence of the inconceivably witless confusion of our luxurious music-taste of nowadays, that we can let Bach's language be spoken to us at the selfsame time as that of Beethoven, and flatter ourselves that there is merely an individual difference of form between them, but nowise a real historic distinction, marking off a period in our culture. The reason, however, is not so far to seek: the speech of Beethoven can be spoken only by a whole, entire, warm-breathed human being; since it was just the speech of a music-man so perfect, that with the force of Necessity he thrust beyond Absolute Music — whose dominion he had measured and fulfilled unto its utmost frontiers — and shewed to us the pathway to the fecundation of every art through Music, as her only salutary broadening. [27] On the other hand, Bach's language can be mimicked, at a pinch, by any musician who thoroughly understands his business, though scarcely in the sense of Bach; because the Formal has still therein the upper hand, and the purely human Expression is not as yet a factor so definitely preponderant that its What either can, or must be uttered without conditions, for it still is fully occupied with shaping out the How. The washiness and whimsicality of our present musical style has been, if not exactly brought about, yet pushed to its utmost pitch by Mendelssohn's endeavour to speak out a vague, an almost nugatory Content as interestingly and spiritedly as possible. Whereas Beethoven, the last in the chain of our true music-heroes, strove with highest longing, and wonder-working faculty, [28] for the clearest, certainest Expression of an unsayable Content through a sharp-cut, plastic shaping of his tone-pictures: Mendelssohn, on the contrary, reduces these achievements to vague, fantastic shadow-forms, midst whose indefinite shimmer our freakish fancy is indeed aroused, but our inner, purely-human yearning for distinct artistic sight is hardly touched with even the merest hope of a fulfilment
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:35 PM
But bethink ye, that one only thing can redeem you from the burden of your curse: the redemption of Ahasuerus — Going under!
Draco
April 1st, 2004, 03:47 PM
Jewish art, regardless of period, is technically similar to its White counterpart, that is to say, its design principles...a jewish painting could use atmospheric perspective, or one point perspective. Hierarchal scaling. Orthogonals. All these terms could be found in either.
Innovation or not, I simply could not copy say, Raphaels The School of Athens, even if it were right in front of me with all the required tools. Simply lack the skill. (Perhaps the whole modern art thing started just because people couldn't paint like the old masters anymore? :p )
So, I wouldn't say jews cannot paint like Whites. They can, if they have the skill. To my knowledge jews did not innovate artwork, perhaps excluding comic book or pop art. The Renaissance, and its advancements in the arts was chiefy a White affair.
Likely, the reality that when an artist creates, he puts some of himself into the piece reflects the reason for the inherent differences. Jews are rather neurotic, many say this is the result of overbearing mothers, but I think its the dichotomy in jewish life....they are taught they are superior, but reality does not reflect this. Superior peoples are not kicked out of every single nation they set foot in, nor are they persecuted for centuries. So, the jewish artist makes something that only really jews can understand. Even in secular art by jews this holds true I feel.
I tried to think of some Jewish artists who's works I enjoyed, but honestly none of their work ever moved me. Jews seem quite at home in "modern art", since it seems to rely on quick shock value, and lacks any actual substance. Basically a quick buck. Impressionism also seems to be a popular theme for jews, as well as women. Since I dislike modern art and impressionism, I will go on the record as syaing there are no jewish artists I like.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 03:52 PM
What issues from the Jews' attempts at making Art, must necessarily therefore bear the attributes of coldness and indifference, even to triviality and absurdity; and in the history of Modern Music we can but class the Judaic period as that of final unproductivity, of stability gone to ruin.
By what example will this all grow clearer to us — ay, wellnigh what other single case could make us so alive to it, as the works of a musician of Jewish birth whom Nature had endowed with specific musical gifts as very few before him? All that offered itself to our gaze, in the inquiry into our antipathy against the Jewish nature; all the contradictoriness of this nature, both in itself and as touching us; all its inability, while outside our footing, to have intercourse with us upon that footing, nay, even to form a wish to further develop the things which had sprung from out our soil: all these are intensified to a positively tragic conflict in the nature, life, and art-career of the early-taken FELIX MENDELSSOHN BARTHOLDY. He has shewn us that a Jew may have the amplest store of specific talents, may own the finest and most varied culture, the highest and the tenderest sense of honour — yet without all these pre-eminences helping him, were it but one single time, to call forth in us that deep, that heart-searching effect which we await from Art [24] because we know her capable thereof, because we have felt it many a time and oft, so soon as once a hero of our art has, so to say, but opened his mouth to speak to us. To professional critics, who haply have reached a like consciousness with ourselves hereon, it may be left to prove by specimens of Mendelssohn's art-products our statement of this indubitably certain thing; by way of illustrating our general impression, let us here be content with the fact that, in hearing a tone-piece of this composer's, we have only been able to feel engrossed where nothing beyond our more or less amusement-craving Phantasy was roused through the presentment, stringing-together and entanglement of the most elegant, the smoothest and most polished figures — as in the kaleidoscope's changeful play of form and colour [25] — but never where those figures were meant to take the shape of deep and stalwart feelings of the human heart. [26] In this latter event Mendelssohn lost even all formal productive-faculty; wherefore in particular where he made for Drama, as in the Oratorio, he was obliged quite openly to snatch at every formal detail that had served as characteristic token of the individuality of this or that forerunner whom he chose out for his model. It is further significant of this procedure, that he gave the preference to our old master BACH, as special pattern for his inexpressive modern tongue to copy. Bach's musical speech was formed at a period of our history when Musics universal tongue was still striving for the faculty of more individual, more unequivocal Expression: pure formalism and pedantry still clung so strongly to her, that it was first through the gigantic force of Bach's own genius that her purely human accents (Ausdruck) broke themselves a vent. The speech of Bach stands toward that of Mozart, and finally of Beethoven, in the relation of the Egyptian Sphinx to the Greek statue of a Man: as the human visage of the Sphinx is in the act of striving outward from the animal body, so strives Bach's noble human head from out the periwig. It is only another evidence of the inconceivably witless confusion of our luxurious music-taste of nowadays, that we can let Bach's language be spoken to us at the selfsame time as that of Beethoven, and flatter ourselves that there is merely an individual difference of form between them, but nowise a real historic distinction, marking off a period in our culture. The reason, however, is not so far to seek: the speech of Beethoven can be spoken only by a whole, entire, warm-breathed human being; since it was just the speech of a music-man so perfect, that with the force of Necessity he thrust beyond Absolute Music — whose dominion he had measured and fulfilled unto its utmost frontiers — and shewed to us the pathway to the fecundation of every art through Music, as her only salutary broadening. [27] On the other hand, Bach's language can be mimicked, at a pinch, by any musician who thoroughly understands his business, though scarcely in the sense of Bach; because the Formal has still therein the upper hand, and the purely human Expression is not as yet a factor so definitely preponderant that its What either can, or must be uttered without conditions, for it still is fully occupied with shaping out the How. The washiness and whimsicality of our present musical style has been, if not exactly brought about, yet pushed to its utmost pitch by Mendelssohn's endeavour to speak out a vague, an almost nugatory Content as interestingly and spiritedly as possible. Whereas Beethoven, the last in the chain of our true music-heroes, strove with highest longing, and wonder-working faculty, [28] for the clearest, certainest Expression of an unsayable Content through a sharp-cut, plastic shaping of his tone-pictures: Mendelssohn, on the contrary, reduces these achievements to vague, fantastic shadow-forms, midst whose indefinite shimmer our freakish fancy is indeed aroused, but our inner, purely-human yearning for distinct artistic sight is hardly touched with even the merest hope of a fulfilment
That says it all.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 03:55 PM
I'll tell you a Jew artist worth studying, if only for the duration of this post. Frida Kahlo. Her mother was a Mexican and her father a German Jew. Everything about her art revolved around a few disgusting, maladjusted themes: a) her unibrow and hairy upper lip, b) her broken hip etc she sustained in a bus accident that left her wearing a brace and so forth c) her miscarriage, and d) her evident hate for Gentile men, symbolized by her fat husband Mexican painter Diego Garcia, who was ten times the talent she was though hardly a master, contasted to her evident affection for her Jew lover Lev Bronstein aka Leon Trotsky and e) her alienation from traditional Mexican/Hispanic culture in favor of her Jewish side. Now if you read books about her, they call it her "European" side but that means Jew side. But in the end it's very simple: a people who shall dwell alone. Parasites where-ever they may wander and Mexico is no different in that regard. Even having the half blood of a woman could not pull Frida into the orbit of the rooted and grounded Gentile woman. Thus she remained an angsty Jewess to the end of her days.
It's Jewy through and through. All the way down to the ugly depictions of her miscarried child and her broken body and hairy lip.
What's even more sickening than Frida, is the interest which faggots and Jews of today have taken in her. Sadly I've noticed more than a few gullible Mexicans claiming her when even they ought to know better. Ernesto, any comment?
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 03:55 PM
Jewish art, regardless of period, is technically similar to its White counterpart, that is to say, its design principles...a jewish painting could use atmospheric perspective, or one point perspective. Hierarchal scaling. Orthogonals. All these terms could be found in either.
Innovation or not, I simply could not copy say, Raphaels The School of Athens, even if it were right in front of me with all the required tools. Simply lack the skill. (Perhaps the whole modern art thing started just because people couldn't paint like the old masters anymore? :p )
So, I wouldn't say jews cannot paint like Whites. They can, if they have the skill. To my knowledge jews did not innovate artwork, perhaps excluding comic book or pop art. The Renaissance, and its advancements in the arts was chiefy a White affair.
Likely, the reality that when an artist creates, he puts some of himself into the piece reflects the reason for the inherent differences. Jews are rather neurotic, many say this is the result of overbearing mothers, but I think its the dichotomy in jewish life....they are taught they are superior, but reality does not reflect this. Superior peoples are not kicked out of every single nation they set foot in, nor are they persecuted for centuries. So, the jewish artist makes something that only really jews can understand. Even in secular art by jews this holds true I feel.
I tried to think of some Jewish artists who's works I enjoyed, but honestly none of their work ever moved me. Jews seem quite at home in "modern art", since it seems to rely on quick shock value, and lacks any actual substance. Basically a quick buck. Impressionism also seems to be a popular theme for jews, as well as women. Since I dislike modern art and impressionism, I will go on the record as syaing there are no jewish artists I like.
Off hand, I can't think of a single jew impressionist painter. Certainly none of the famous ones were jews.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 04:07 PM
I think the Wagner essay was appropriate to this thread because the conversation wandered in that direction, but also because Wagner mentioned the disgusting physical appearance of Jews. That of course is what I meant by Nerdy.
I've opened a new thread on why do jews suck at art. Hopefully that conversation may continue there.
Here I'd like to go back to one disgusting freak of unnature: the Hedgehog. What a hairy, ugly, fat little bastard. The bald head, etc. And yet he is now the subject of a documentary and has appeared on mainstream tv programming ad nauseam. He always talks about his Jewishness too. What a spokesman for Jewry eh? Richard Perle, War hawk; A. Lying Weasel; Hedgehog; Dumper Foxman; and the Butcher Sharon. Are these the scumballs you goofs are defending? They are virtual circus freaks of ugliness.
Glex
April 1st, 2004, 04:14 PM
jews are TOTALLY non creative, no-talent parasites.
Here you go shit-stain!
Antiochus Epiphanes said: I'll give you Mahler and Mendelsohn.
Your own fucking people disagree with you! How fucking stupid are you Gott? Why don't you just defer to those who obviously know better, and shut the fuck up, eh pencil dick?
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 04:22 PM
Here you go shit-stain!
Antiochus Epiphanes said: I'll give you Mahler and Mendelsohn.
Your own fucking people disagree with you! How fucking stupid are you Gott? Why don't you just defer to those who obviously know better, and shut the fuck up, eh pencil dick?
You are a fool Glex. Obviously you didnt read what Gott wrote very carefully. And when I said I would give you Mahler and Mendelsohn, I merely was conceding that they had a notable level of talent and achievement when compared to the utterly pathetic Marc Chagall. I dont disagree with anything I have seen Gott write her so far as I understood it or it fell within my ken. If you were fair you would look across his many posts here and admit as I do that Gott's knowledge of drama and ancillary arts is academic in quality, far superior to my own, whereas yours is unproven and I am guessing miniscule.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 04:29 PM
And I like Alkan - the only kike composer I do like. He is not remotely a great artist, but a super bizarre one. He wrote perhaps the most difficult music written for the piano and it's fun to hear a really great virtuoso like...for instance Marc Andre Hamelin - White European Male (Canadian French) master the insane difficulties of that crazy music. In a similar vein, Offenbach can be amusing in very short doses if one is in a particularly CHEAP mood. For anything real however - IE creative - jews don't EXIST.
Mahler didn't exist as a composer until JEW Lenny Bernstein 'took him up' in Jew York City. And now he is major - except he is a vulgar, bizarre, desperate for effects kike and his 'big' music, as opposed to the small scale amusing junk of Offenbach and Alkan - SUCKS. I do sort of like the Ressurrection Symphony and # 8 though, but don't take them too seriously. Ever hear either of them, Mr. Expert on the Jew Arts??? Those icky little kike band music things in all his symphonies are truly grotesque and terminally ugly.
Why not discuss Meyerbeer, dip shit? The last century's 'great jew composer' whose bankrupt trash music is even more dead than the putrid Marc Chagall you first mentioned as a example of jew creativity and then dismissed as not so hot (typical anti/traitor LYING and other assorted bull crap). Just one more example of jew trash that the kikes shove forward as great art every 15 minutes or so.
If A.E. likes Mahler that's jake with me dip shit. We can afford to have personalities on our side, unlike you lemmings who march in lock step. I prefer Italian to German opera if I have to make a choice. Big Fucking Deal. That your 'brilliant' debating tactic today dip shit??? A.E. says Mahler is ok, and I don't...oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dissension in the Aryan ranks!!!
You pitiful, stupid traitor.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 04:34 PM
If A.E. likes Mahler that's jake with me dip shit. We can afford to have personalities on our side, unlike you lemmings who march in lock step. I prefer Italian to German opera if I have to make a choice. Big Fucking Deal. That your 'brilliant' debating tactic today dip shit??? A.E. says Mahler is ok, and I don't...oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO dissension in the Aryan ranks!!!
You pitiful, stupid traitor.
Well I dont personally enjoy Mahler that much. The big music I found very unsettling the first time I head it. Since then I've learned to enjoy it more but he hardly compares does he? The paucity of notable Jew composers proves rather than disproves the rule.
I liked the song "klein sack" from Offenbach's Contes des Hoffman. Toe-tappingly amusing, memorable melody. I cant remember the rest of it. I fell asleep.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 04:35 PM
You are a fool Glex. Obviously you didnt read what Gott wrote very carefully. And when I said I would give you Mahler and Mendelsohn, I merely was conceding that they had a notable level of talent and achievement when compared to the utterly pathetic Marc Chagall. I dont disagree with anything I have seen Gott write her so far as I understood it or it fell within my ken. If you were fair you would look across his many posts here and admit as I do that Gott's knowledge of drama and ancillary arts is academic in quality, far superior to my own, whereas yours is unproven and I am guessing miniscule.
I can't even read music, I just love my European culture and work hard at things I want to understand. Sure, I'll go with Mahler and a few others, but the point for me is whoever you do decide to go with - they are so very few...the exceptions that obviously prove the rule. We all have different tastes and personalities - except for the PC crowd who even fart in unison so as not be out of step with each other.
For Europe and the Fuhrer
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 04:40 PM
Iexcept for the PC crowd who even fart in unison so as not be out of step with each other.
For Europe and the Fuhrer
thanks. you can see that WN does over-react in that manner as well at times. natural instinct when the herd is threatened.
Georgie
April 1st, 2004, 04:43 PM
I dunno. You gonna tell us?
(Eh...the punchline, Georgie, the punchline!?)
Actually there was no punchline. I was just asking. I have seen many many Jews over my life and most of them wore glasses. Just curious as to why that is.
Glex
April 1st, 2004, 04:43 PM
You are a fool Glex. Obviously you didnt read what Gott wrote very carefully. And when I said I would give you Mahler and Mendelsohn, I merely was conceding that they had a notable level of talent and achievement when compared to the utterly pathetic Marc Chagall. I dont disagree with anything I have seen Gott write her so far as I understood it or it fell within my ken. If you were fair you would look across his many posts here and admit as I do that Gott's knowledge of drama and ancillary arts is academic in quality, far superior to my own, whereas yours is unproven and I am guessing miniscule.
Miniscule? It could be microscopic and I could still refute the point of this thread! You yourself said "they [Mahler and Mendelsohn] had a notable level of talent and achievement". Fine, compared to Chagall if that makes you feel better. How about compared to say, you? Or Gott? How do those two jews rank compared to your artistic abilities?
Jews produce no art? None, among all of them? It’s a laughable, stupid point to make. “jews are nerdy” “jews wear glasses a lot” How utterly stupid.
You can honestly argue that not one jew, since the dawn of man, has done something artful, and you call me a fool?
Georgie
April 1st, 2004, 04:44 PM
Because we use our eyes to STUDY and LEARN! I guess you people wouldn't know about that. I mean public schools are filled with illiterate asses, goyboys! And they aren't just black. They're filled with kids whose only goal in life is to be like Britney Spears, hehehe. :p
I doubt that this person is actually a jew.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 1st, 2004, 04:58 PM
Miniscule? It could be microscopic and I could still refute the point of this thread! You yourself said "they [Mahler and Mendelsohn] had a notable level of talent and achievement". Fine, compared to Chagall if that makes you feel better. How about compared to say, you? Or Gott? How do those two jews rank compared to your artistic abilities?
Jews produce no art? None, among all of them? It’s a laughable, stupid point to make. “jews are nerdy” “jews wear glasses a lot” How utterly stupid.
You can honestly argue that not one jew, since the dawn of man, has done something artful, and you call me a fool?
Nice try. Did I say no jew? Maybe somebody else did. Might as well be given the numbers we're comparing. Are you reduced to arguing that 2 notable Jew composers stacks up to the giants that Europe produced? You're quibbling. You're good at ignoring the Elephant in the Living Room. Which is, even considering the manifest abundance of Jewish performers of music, Jews hanging about the arts, Jews plopping money down, Jews in the back office, there is a gross and severe shortage of Jew composers in the sort of music we were discussing. It's evident. If you're still in denial, that's fine with me. The point has been made for the readers sufficiently and they are welcome to write in themselves and point out any errors.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 05:17 PM
Miniscule? It could be microscopic and I could still refute the point of this thread! You yourself said "they [Mahler and Mendelsohn] had a notable level of talent and achievement". Fine, compared to Chagall if that makes you feel better. How about compared to say, you? Or Gott? How do those two jews rank compared to your artistic abilities?
Jews produce no art? None, among all of them? It’s a laughable, stupid point to make. “jews are nerdy” “jews wear glasses a lot” How utterly stupid.
You can honestly argue that not one jew, since the dawn of man, has done something artful, and you call me a fool?
Personally, I don't have any creative talents. Not, of course, that the issue has ANYTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the question. Just more typical TRAITOR bull crap, eh Glex? I however, do have good analytical skills and can tell the difference between...the School of Athens that Draco mentioned and ANY painting by ANY kike. The difference is that which WAGNER describes in the piece that A.E. posted. Why not read it and try to get that tiny little brain moving for the first time ever, Glex???
Some people prefer Vermeer and some prefer Raphael, dip shit. Both are supremely talented in Aryan art forms and show the variety therein. Jews - try to get this into that tiny brain - HAVE NO ART FORMS. They can only mimic, which everyone knows and no one disputes. Lots of great jew painists and opera singers down through the years - fine interpretively, ZERO creatively. Henrich Heine was a jew poet - except the poetic forms he used are EXCLUSIVELY Aryan ones.
The hideous kike painting of Moses you posted - is a ghastly, almost parodistic stencil of Italian Renaissance models, only without ANY talent in color, composition, arranging of the figure, use of the landscape, etc. - in other words a soulless copy of no creative talent (the Wagner piece again). And so it goes for ALL forms. There is NO jew architecture, just jew architects who mimic other, creative, people's forms. There is LOTS of Islamic architecture and painting and poetry - none of which apes European models. There is lots of Indian and Mayan architecture and painting in the same original, creative way. Get it yet, Sherlock?
COTW
April 1st, 2004, 06:57 PM
Is this guy(?) jewish?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 1st, 2004, 07:31 PM
Marc Chagall
Daniel Moritz Oppenheim
Max Lieberman
Max Weber
C. D. Rosenthal
Aaron Copland
Felix Mendelssohn
“Heer’s” a whole list of them http://www.milkenarchive.org/
Hey Hoax, how many musicals did you compose today? How many paintings did you paint today? Sketches? Ballets? Light Operas?
None?Hey bootlicker - I see you hopped on your favorite search engine and managed to "dreg-up" a handful of anomalous kike painters and composers. And don't tell me you came up with that list off the top of your head. No way - not the way that damn near every person living in this country would be able to come up with a much bigger list of White artists and composers right off the tops of their heads....without the use of a search engine. See where I'm going with this? Betcha even a full-blooded kike would have to hop on Google to come up with a list like that - or any list for that matter. Which brings me back to my original assertion of jews possessing no creative powers.
When I said jews had no creative powers, I was making a generalization - and you know it. Let's get real, okay? If I were to ask you where are all the nigger, spic, fag, or dyke "creative" contributors to Western culture were, I'm sure you could manage to drag up a list at least as "formidable" as the one you posted listing the jewscum. You can compile a list of anything you can possibly dream up - thanks to the net - can't you? But just how well - if at all - do these stand up to their White counterparts? Hmm? Face it - it is'nt even a contest. It's a fuckin' joke.
What is it that a race considered so brilliant, so "creative", in your own opinion, is so unaccounted for, in any substantial numbers, in the Fine Arts? And I'm talking in relation to its numbers percentage-wise of the population. You know very well where the jew's propensity and talents lie, you traitorous bastard. It's not in the Arts. It's not in the Humanities. It's not in Great Literaure. Their greatest "gifts" to mankind come in the form of their extraordinary abilities to con and fuck over anyone not of their tribe. In this, they are the Masters - no group of people can compare. That's it - the jew's contribution to the world.
It's not that they're totally incapable of producing fine art and music. It's simply not in their nature to gravitate towards the Arts and Humanities. In the jew's book, these fields of idle endeavor are reserved for the goyim. The astounding jewish greed for things material condemns his dark soul with the obsession of wealth, power, and the preservation of his own skin....nothing more.
BTW - Think ya' got a little "Kiwi" on your tongue there, bootlicker.
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 08:05 PM
Hey bootlicker - I see you hopped on your favorite search engine and managed to "dreg-up" a handful of anomalous kike painters and composers. And don't tell me you came up with that list off the top of your head. No way - not like damn near every person living in this country would be able to come up with a much bigger list of White artists and composers right off the tops of their heads....without the use of a search engine. See where I'm going with this? Betcha even a full-blooded kike would have to hop on Google to come up with a list like that - or any list for that matter. Which brings me back to my original assertion of jews possessing no creative powers.
When I said jews had no creative powers, I was making a generalization - and you know it. Let's get real, okay? If I were to ask you where are all the nigger, spic, fag, or dyke "creative" contributors to Western culture were, I'm sure you could manage to drag up a list at least as "formidable" as the one you posted listing the jewscum. You can compile a list of anything you can possibly dream up - thanks to the net - can't you? But just how well - if at all - do these stand up to their White counterparts? Hmm? Face it - it is'nt even a contest. It's a fuckin' joke.
What is it that a race considered so brilliant, so "creative", in your own opinion, is so unaccounted for, in any substantial numbers, in the Fine Arts? And I'm talking in relation to its numbers percentage-wise of the population. You know very well where the jew's propensity and talents lie, you traitorous bastard. It's not in the Arts. It's not in the Humanities. It's not in Great Literaure. Their greatest "gifts" to mankind come in the form of their extraordinary abilities to con and fuck over anyone not of their tribe. In this, they are the Masters - no group of people can compare. That's it - the jew's contribution to the world.
It's not that they're totally incapable of producing fine art and music. It's simply not in their nature to gravitate towards the Arts and Humanities. In the jew's book, these fields of idle endeavor are reserved for the goyim. The astounding jewish greed for things material condemns his dark soul with the obsession of wealth, power, and the preservation of his own skin....nothing more.
BTW - Think ya' got a little "Kiwi" on your tongue there, bootlicker.
Sometimes I feel that we rabid ones are the VNN attack pit bulls, or maybe the white corpuscles fighting infection. As soon as the kikes come in - we attack and limit the spread of the disease. Myself, I want all jews RAUS, ...can't stand their putrid presence. Traitors like Glex are even worse. It's one thing to be misguided, but a eager ass sucker for that vermin. He's got a life long stretch in permanent re-education coming when we win. Re-education on bread and water, at hard labor. The future looks very good:)
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 1st, 2004, 08:35 PM
Sometimes I feel that we rabid ones are the VNN attack pit bulls, or maybe the white corpuscles fighting infection. As soon as the kikes come in - we attack and limit the spread of the disease. Myself, I want all jews RAUS, ...can't stand their putrid presence. Traitors like Glex are even worse. It's one thing to be misguided, but a eager ass sucker for that vermin. He's got a life long stretch in permanent re-education coming when we win. Re-education on bread and water, at hard labor. The future looks very good:)Re-education??? Boy, you must wanna play "good cop" to my "bad cop." I say they're the first to get the milkcrate kicked out from under them. No quarter given!
Steve B
April 1st, 2004, 08:37 PM
White man art
http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/rembrand/rembra34.jpg
Jew art
http://richardmcbee.com/images/jewish/moses.jpg
You be the judge!
Gott
April 1st, 2004, 08:37 PM
Re-education??? Boy, you must wanna play "good cop" to my "bad cop." I say they're the first to get the milkcrate kicked out from under them. No quarter given!
Na...it's just that hanging is way too quick and easy:) I want them to die, but very, very slowly and after the maximum amount of humiliation and pay-back.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 1st, 2004, 09:05 PM
Na...it's just that hanging is way too quick and easy:) I want them to die, but very, very slowly and after the maximum amount of humiliation and pay-back.
I say "breaking on the wheel" is what's called for! Ever hear of it? In the Middle Ages, throughout Europe, it was the second most common form of execution, after hanging. It took place almost daily in the public squares of towns and villages. Here's how it was applied: The victim was stripped naked and spreadeagle on the ground. Under his/her shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips, knees, and ankles were placed stout wooden cross-pieces. The executioner took either a steel-rimmed wagon wheel or a massive iron bar (depending on which locale in Europe the punishment was being meted out) and, one by one, proceeded to smash into smithereens every major joint in the victim's body - taking great care not to kill him with a fatal blow to any internal organs. A 15th or 16th century German chronicler who witnessed such an execution, described the victim as being transformed into a sort of screaming puppet of nothing but bone, splinters, and raw flesh - his limbs nothing but tentacles reminding him of an octopus. After all this, while the victim was still alive, he was "woven" in grotesque configurations into the same wheel that had smashed all his limbs, hoisted onto a pole horizontally, and left for the crows to pick out his eyes and Mother Nature to take its course.
Anyway - that's what I think should be done with traitors. Nuthin' fancy.
Steve B
April 1st, 2004, 09:25 PM
I say "breaking on the wheel" is what's called for! Ever hear of it? In the Middle Ages, throughout Europe, it was the second most common form of execution, after hanging. It took place almost daily in the public squares of towns and villages. Here's how it was applied: The victim was stripped naked and spreadeagle on the ground. Under his/her shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips, knees, and ankles were placed stout wooden cross-pieces. The executioner took either a steel-rimmed wagon wheel or a massive iron bar (depending on which locale in Europe the punishment was being meted out) and, one by one, proceeded to smash into smithereens every major joint in the victim's body - taking great care not to kill him with a fatal blow to any internal organs. A 15th or 16th century German chronicler who witnessed such an execution, described the victim as being transformed into a sort of screaming puppet of nothing but bone, splinters, and raw flesh - his limbs nothing but tentacles reminding him of an octopus. After all this, while the victim was still alive, he was "woven" in grotesque configurations into the same wheel that had smashed all his limbs, hoisted onto a pole horizontally, and left for the crows to pick out his eyes and Mother Nature to take its course.
Anyway - that's what I think should be done with traitors. Nuthin' fancy.
Geeze Hoax....ouch and double ouch!!! I guess that would be like....even worse than a bad hair day.
diabloblanco92
April 1st, 2004, 09:43 PM
How about this. Why do so many Jews wear glasses?
Because they ruin their eyesight looking for pennies on the sidewalk, LOL
diablo
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 1st, 2004, 10:03 PM
Geeze Hoax....ouch and double ouch!!! I guess that would be like....even worse than a bad hair day.LOL! Ever hear of the "burning bowl" method of execution. Almost as much "fun" as being broken on the wheel.
Alex Linder
April 1st, 2004, 11:14 PM
Actually there was no punchline. I was just asking. I have seen many many Jews over my life and most of them wore glasses. Just curious as to why that is.
The Ashkenazi ideal, back in Poland, was skinny, pale knock-kneed, govt-subsidized eternal Talmud students.
Alex Linder
April 1st, 2004, 11:18 PM
Nice try. Did I say no jew? Maybe somebody else did. Might as well be given the numbers we're comparing. Are you reduced to arguing that 2 notable Jew composers stacks up to the giants that Europe produced? You're quibbling. You're good at ignoring the Elephant in the Living Room. Which is, even considering the manifest abundance of Jewish performers of music, Jews hanging about the arts, Jews plopping money down, Jews in the back office, there is a gross and severe shortage of Jew composers in the sort of music we were discussing. It's evident. If you're still in denial, that's fine with me. The point has been made for the readers sufficiently and they are welcome to write in themselves and point out any errors.
oh yeah, no art among the jews. and i suppose the hora just wrote itself? credit where credit is jue. jews are chock full of shit -- and talent.
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2004, 12:54 AM
LOL
Speaking of jews and their involvement with the arts, last night I had the dubious distinction of attending the Juilliard Spring Benefit at Lincoln Center. Due to a sudden cancellation by her date, my cousin called me (LOL) on a favor to accompany her to this arte de juif social event. This $1000 a plate shindig, complete with a tent on the plaza where (kosher, blaagh) dinner was served under gaudy chandeliers, featured many media kikes and tee-vee personalities in attendance. It was kind of a deja-vu experience fer me having had worked in the tee-vee biz back in the 80’s, and I quickly saw that nothing at all has changed. My political views are known to my cousin, and I promised her I would be good, but I almost puked when I saw the title for the entertainment for the evening ‘Classified Jazz’ to be performed in the theater before dinner.
Oy! This grotesque attempt to fuze jewish jazz with baroque music put a fuckin hurtin on my ears, so much so I busted out a few “this iz dreck” at inappropriate times during the performance, it seems to the delight of a certain cute lil alumni of the school who came over and hung out with Cissy and I after the concert/short ballet. She wants me to go out to Sag Harbor with her this weekend, and well you know the old sayings about missed opportunities that don’t come around twice …I mean the short ballet performed by some of the students was oh k, I should say entertaining, and fittingly the finale was Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue LOL, go figure.
All with these kikes is getting so predictable, never anything new and revolutionary, just different combinations of the same old thing because it can’t come up with anything new. Oy vey, tomorrow, let’s explore the relationship between ghetto nigger rap and Bach, and a jew will ‘compose’ a synthesis of the two forms, a masterpiece itz. Critically acclaimed by all the yidim. Death to the fucking jews, always turning something beautiful into shit, and institutionalizing the process, the jew truly is the carrion bird of a decaying society. Always the moderator and gatekeeper through which ideas and concepts must be examined for jew friendliness before they pass. A truly free mind always sees thru the jews lies and hates him, and unfailingly works to destroy them.
After I swallowed the tasteless salmon, no doubt prepared that way in case some litigious kike might get indigestion, and as soon as I could get the two women to leave, I left the fuckin jewy jewllie behind and headed for higher ground. Rather than hang out and ‘talk’ with the city’s jewish elite and artsy tee-vee skum (one way conversations with them, they talk TO you, not WITH you), we went to a nearby coffee shop and talked on things White, one White man and two incredibly gifted and intelligent White women, and they offered me no argument. As I said good night to my cousin, she kissed me and told me that she never had more respect for me than when I explained my politics to her, she thought I was just being an asshole with my jew-crit. And the violinist, well I got a date didn’t I? Itz Coming!
TG
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Antiochus Epiphanes
April 2nd, 2004, 09:12 AM
oh yeah, no art among the jews. and i suppose the hora just wrote itself? credit where credit is jue. jews are chock full of shit -- and talent.
Last year I forced myself to listen to this NPR series on "Lost and Found Sounds" about Yiddish Radio. They dont have it anymore, but back in the 40s and 50s it was pretty popular with the shekies. Plenty of klezmer. I find it hard to call klezmer music, it kind of reminds me of the sound of a pile driver at a construction site not far off when you're trying to sleep. As in, supremely annoying and oppressively rhythmic.
Glex
April 2nd, 2004, 10:33 AM
Hey bootlicker - I see you hopped on your favorite search engine and managed to "dreg-up" a handful of anomalous kike painters and composers.
Hey shitlicker, that’s the fucking point! I spent all of 60 seconds to disprove the point that jews have no art. Do you get it now that I’ve spelled it out for you, moron?
When I said jews had no creative powers, I was making a generalization - and you know it.
I do know it. You were making a stupid generalization that was easily disproved – and you know it.
What is it that a race considered so brilliant, so "creative", in your own opinion, is so unaccounted for, in any substantial numbers, in the Fine Arts?
Read this next sentence slowly, fuckwit. I never said jews were a creative or brilliant race! Figure it out yet, retard? I don’t consider jews to be any better or worse than any other group of people. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not get that?
It's not that they're totally incapable of producing fine art and music.
But earlier you said:
Which brings me back to my original assertion of jews possessing no creative powers.
Try to keep the bullshit straight, eh? I need a fucking program to keep track of all the players. Jews are NOT totally incapable, but at the same time, possess no creative powers. Jesus Christ you are stupid. But I’m sure you “heer” that all the time, don’t you?
KATIEW
April 2nd, 2004, 02:13 PM
LOL
Speaking of jews and their involvement with the arts, last night I had the dubious distinction of attending the Juilliard Spring Benefit at Lincoln Center. Due to a sudden cancellation by her date, my cousin called me (LOL) on a favor to accompany her to this arte de juif social event. This $1000 a plate shindig, complete with a tent on the plaza where (kosher, blaagh) dinner was served under gaudy chandeliers, featured many media kikes and tee-vee personalities in attendance. It was kind of a deja-vu experience fer me having had worked in the tee-vee biz back in the 80’s, and I quickly saw that nothing at all has changed. My political views are known to my cousin, and I promised her I would be good, but I almost puked when I saw the title for the entertainment for the evening ‘Classified Jazz’ to be performed in the theater before dinner.
Oy! This grotesque attempt to fuze jewish jazz with baroque music put a fuckin hurtin on my ears, so much so I busted out a few “this iz dreck” at inappropriate times during the performance, it seems to the delight of a certain cute lil alumni of the school who came over and hung out with Cissy and I after the concert/short ballet. She wants me to go out to Sag Harbor with her this weekend, and well you know the old sayings about missed opportunities that don’t come around twice …I mean the short ballet performed by some of the students was oh k, I should say entertaining, and fittingly the finale was Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue LOL, go figure.
All with these kikes is getting so predictable, never anything new and revolutionary, just different combinations of the same old thing because it can’t come up with anything new. Oy vey, tomorrow, let’s explore the relationship between ghetto nigger rap and Bach, and a jew will ‘compose’ a synthesis of the two forms, a masterpiece itz. Critically acclaimed by all the yidim. Death to the fucking jews, always turning something beautiful into shit, and institutionalizing the process, the jew truly is the carrion bird of a decaying society. Always the moderator and gatekeeper through which ideas and concepts must be examined for jew friendliness before they pass. A truly free mind always sees thru the jews lies and hates him, and unfailingly works to destroy them.
After I swallowed the tasteless salmon, no doubt prepared that way in case some litigious kike might get indigestion, and as soon as I could get the two women to leave, I left the fuckin jewy jewllie behind and headed for higher ground. Rather than hang out and ‘talk’ with the city’s jewish elite and artsy tee-vee skum (one way conversations with them, they talk TO you, not WITH you), we went to a nearby coffee shop and talked on things White, one White man and two incredibly gifted and intelligent White women, and they offered me no argument. As I said good night to my cousin, she kissed me and told me that she never had more respect for me than when I explained my politics to her, she thought I was just being an asshole with my jew-crit. And the violinist, well I got a date didn’t I? Itz Coming!
TG
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Ya know Garrett, ya got a problem. In reading many of your posts you seem to be obsessed with us Jews. Hmmm, whatsa matter, got kicked in your ass by a Jewish accountant in your youth? Gotta wonder what bug is up your ass about Jews. I mean that's all you talk about. TALK about boring, szzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzz, What, oh, sorry. Dozed off for a moment! and by the way, your envy and jealousy is sooo transparent. heee, heeee, heee
Gott
April 2nd, 2004, 02:25 PM
oh yeah, no art among the jews. and i suppose the hora just wrote itself? credit where credit is jue. jews are chock full of shit -- and talent.
Depends on how you define talent don't it? They are not and have never been creative, only imitative. They have a talent for stealing, but that isn't what real art is about. Bach and Handel reworked other composer's motifs on occasion, but they always did something personal with the material, and almost always improved on it. Even the jew religion is mostly stolen from other, creative, cultures - Noah and the flood, for example.
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2004, 02:35 PM
KATIE JEW
You wrote
Ya know Garrett, ya got a problem. In reading many of your posts you seem to be obsessed with us Jews. Hmmm, whatsa matter, got kicked in your ass by a Jewish accountant in your youth? Gotta wonder what bug is up your ass about Jews. I mean that's all you talk about. TALK about boring, szzzzzzzzz, zzzzzzz, What, oh, sorry. Dozed off for a moment! and by the way, your envy and jealousy is sooo transparent. heee, heeee, heee
He he he, you know, the only thing that is apparent from my posts is my revulsion of and hatred of jews. Jealousy? Why would I be jealous of the jew that’s my doorman, that parks my car in the garage, my jew accountant and lawyer …you people serve me, and I point out your deficiencies and tell you how inadequate you are. Jews are shit, Katie jew, and I enjoy abusing them. Got a problem with that, bitch? Fuck You!
TG
PS I dont think youre really a jew anyway. Go fuck yourself with a spiked metal dildo anyway!
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 2nd, 2004, 02:52 PM
LOL
Speaking of jews and their involvement with the arts, last night I had the dubious distinction of attending the Juilliard Spring Benefit at Lincoln Center. Due to a sudden cancellation by her date, my cousin called me (LOL) on a favor to accompany her to this arte de juif social event. This $1000 a plate shindig, complete with a tent on the plaza where (kosher, blaagh) dinner was served under gaudy chandeliers, featured many media kikes and tee-vee personalities in attendance. It was kind of a deja-vu experience fer me having had worked in the tee-vee biz back in the 80’s, and I quickly saw that nothing at all has changed. My political views are known to my cousin, and I promised her I would be good, but I almost puked when I saw the title for the entertainment for the evening ‘Classified Jazz’ to be performed in the theater before dinner.
Oy! This grotesque attempt to fuze jewish jazz with baroque music put a fuckin hurtin on my ears, so much so I busted out a few “this iz dreck” at inappropriate times during the performance, it seems to the delight of a certain cute lil alumni of the school who came over and hung out with Cissy and I after the concert/short ballet. She wants me to go out to Sag Harbor with her this weekend, and well you know the old sayings about missed opportunities that don’t come around twice …I mean the short ballet performed by some of the students was oh k, I should say entertaining, and fittingly the finale was Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue LOL, go figure.
All with these kikes is getting so predictable, never anything new and revolutionary, just different combinations of the same old thing because it can’t come up with anything new. Oy vey, tomorrow, let’s explore the relationship between ghetto nigger rap and Bach, and a jew will ‘compose’ a synthesis of the two forms, a masterpiece itz. Critically acclaimed by all the yidim. Death to the fucking jews, always turning something beautiful into shit, and institutionalizing the process, the jew truly is the carrion bird of a decaying society. Always the moderator and gatekeeper through which ideas and concepts must be examined for jew friendliness before they pass. A truly free mind always sees thru the jews lies and hates him, and unfailingly works to destroy them.
After I swallowed the tasteless salmon, no doubt prepared that way in case some litigious kike might get indigestion, and as soon as I could get the two women to leave, I left the fuckin jewy jewllie behind and headed for higher ground. Rather than hang out and ‘talk’ with the city’s jewish elite and artsy tee-vee skum (one way conversations with them, they talk TO you, not WITH you), we went to a nearby coffee shop and talked on things White, one White man and two incredibly gifted and intelligent White women, and they offered me no argument. As I said good night to my cousin, she kissed me and told me that she never had more respect for me than when I explained my politics to her, she thought I was just being an asshole with my jew-crit. And the violinist, well I got a date didn’t I? Itz Coming!
TG
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I promised myself I would stay away from this addictive forum for the rest of the day but I snuck back in and look what I found. This is one of the funniest stories I have read at VNN in the past year. Nothing makes me grin wider than the thought of VNNers at Lincoln Center. Right under the collective schnozzim eh?
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2004, 03:04 PM
I promised myself I would stay away from this addictive forum for the rest of the day but I snuck back in and look what I found. This is one of the funniest stories I have read at VNN in the past year. Nothing makes me grin wider than the thought of VNNers at Lincoln Center. Right under the collective schnozzim eh?
AE
LOL, I was representin’ VNN at the benefit, yo! :cool:
Cheers
TG
Steve B
April 2nd, 2004, 03:40 PM
oh yeah, no art among the jews. and i suppose the hora just wrote itself? credit where credit is jue. jews are chock full of shit -- and talent.
Herr Linder wants to talk about The Hora! Ok....even "Himself" need a slapdown every once in a while.
The Jews, a minority culture throughout their history, appropriated their music from the host cultures in which they lived. If one were to listen to Debbie Friedmans music you can easily identify the influences of American folk traditions. Also, the appropriation of Christian church hymns in Western European synagogues in the nineteenth century is well documented. Even the Biblical Song of the Sea, sung by the Israelites after crossing a miraculously split sea, used an Egyptian tune.
Jewish art music did not arise until Jews were more or less settled in Western society. The adoption of art music by Jewish communities, especially for synagogue services (which quickly became performances), required a particular level of assimilation into and comfort with the host culture.
Here's how it works, Alex. A melody is appropriated from a host culture and set to Jewish lyrics. Then, host cultures instruments, modes of harmony, and styles are adopted. After a certain amount of time being sung or played “by Jews for Jews,” the music becomes "uniquely" Jewish. Which in turn leads to statements by gullible goyim like this: Give "credit where credit is jue".
I'm suprised at you Alex. You should have known better!
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 2nd, 2004, 03:50 PM
Hey shitlicker, that’s the fucking point! I spent all of 60 seconds to disprove the point that jews have no art. Do you get it now that I’ve spelled it out for you, moron?
I do know it. You were making a stupid generalization that was easily disproved – and you know it.
Read this next sentence slowly, fuckwit. I never said jews were a creative or brilliant race! Figure it out yet, retard? I don’t consider jews to be any better or worse than any other group of people. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not get that?
But earlier you said:
Try to keep the bullshit straight, eh? I need a fucking program to keep track of all the players. Jews are NOT totally incapable, but at the same time, possess no creative powers. Jesus Christ you are stupid. But I’m sure you “heer” that all the time, don’t you?Let me try to straighten your sorry-ass out on something, bootlicker. You say you spent all of 60 seconds on a search engine to dredge-up that shitlist of kikes, correct? In my first paragraph, I implied that you needed a search engine in order to come up with such a "Wow!" list of kike composers and painters, correct? That's the whole point, you fuckin' idiot! It's not the fact that it took you only 60 seconds to accomplish this "astounding feat", but that you had to use a search engine at all. You, or anyone else for that matter, would have to make use of external reference sources in order to back-up such a weak position. The fact remains that you could'nt come up with this list off the top of your head, whereas practically anyone else could do so, with ease, if asked to come up with a list of great White composers and painters. What the fuck would you do, Mr. "Debater", if we had this same argument out on the street, and you had no access to a pc? You'd be fuckin' speechless, would'nt you? And just what does that tell you about the strength and soundness of your p.o.v.? Get it now, retard? Somehow I doubt it.
Do you even know the meaning of the word "generalization". It implies to include "loosely", as when someone says, "Niggers are stupid." When someone is "generalizing", does that mean they're insinuating all niggers are stupid? Of course not. It means most niggers are stupid. Same thing when I made the generalization about lack of creative talent on the part of kikes. Then you go dredge-up a list of anomalous jews to post. Anomalous: meaning not falling into a general category, out of the ordinary. Do you understand this, or is it too over your head?
You say you never said jews were a "creative or brilliant race." Quite true. But tell me, just what race do you consider creative and brilliant if not the jews? You're a jewass-kissing, groveling bootlicker, are'nt you? Who the fuck else do you consider possessors of these qualities if not your jew masters? No scumbag - you did'nt say jews were creative and brilliant, you simply imply as much by your unabashed enthusiam for all things jewish.
One last thing. How does it feel to be a White race-traitor? How the hell do you sleep at night knowing that your own race which consisted of approximately 1/4 of the world's population in 1920, now accounts for something like 1/10 of the world's current population, due in large part to the miscegenation encouraged by "guess who" and jew-founded and controlled orgs like NOW? And how do you sleep at night knowing that your own culture and proud history is being relentlessly, methodically, and purposely vilified and shit-on by a kike-dominated "edjewcational" system intent on nothing less than its total destruction? Tell me......how the hell do you do it?
T.Garrett
April 2nd, 2004, 03:51 PM
Herr Linder wants to talk about The Hora! Ok....even "Himself" need a slapdown every once in a while.
The Jews, a minority culture throughout their history, appropriated their music from the host cultures in which they lived. If one were to listen to Debbie Friedmans music you can easily identify the influences of American folk traditions. Also, the appropriation of Christian church hymns in Western European synagogues in the nineteenth century is well documented. Even the Biblical Song of the Sea, sung by the Israelites after crossing a miraculously split sea, used an Egyptian tune.
Jewish art music did not arise until Jews were more or less settled in Western society. The adoption of art music by Jewish communities, especially for synagogue services (which quickly became performances), required a particular level of assimilation into and comfort with the host culture.
Here's how it works, Alex. A melody is appropriated from a host culture and set to Jewish lyrics. Then, host cultures instruments, modes of harmony, and styles are adopted. After a certain amount of time being sung or played “by Jews for Jews,” the music becomes "uniquely" Jewish. Which in turn leads to statements by gullible goyim like this: Give "credit where credit is jue".
I'm suprised at you Alex. You should have known better!
Steve
I think Alex knows that and was being facetious. He he he, jews are such shameless copy cats, aren’t they?
Cheers
TG
PS Glexie is getting nasty lately isn’t he? In his exchanges with Gott, he’s getting downright mean.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 2nd, 2004, 03:55 PM
PS Glexie is getting nasty lately isn’t he? In his exchanges with Gott, he’s getting downright mean.It's time to seriously go to work on that evasive, lyin' punk's ass.
Steve B
April 2nd, 2004, 03:56 PM
Steve
I think Alex knows that and was being facetious. He he he, jews are such shameless copy cats, aren’t they?
Cheers
TG
PS Glexie is getting nasty lately isn’t he? In his exchanges with Gott, he’s getting downright mean.
Awww Jeeze....it went right over my head! Apologies to Alex!
Yes, Glexstein is becoming rather unglued. Gotts got him so wound up he's starting to crack and I'm lovin every minute of it!
Glex
April 2nd, 2004, 05:20 PM
Awww Jeeze....it went right over my head! Apologies to Alex!
Yes, Glexstein is becoming rather unglued. Gotts got him so wound up he's starting to crack and I'm lovin every minute of it!
Actually, I'm just trying to respond in kind to my audience. Like for instance if I wanted to get on Steve B's level, I'd start with:
"LOL! That's funny, Sir!" then I’d move on to
“Uh Oh! Someone’s gonna smack you down! (cause I can’t do it).”
Then, I’d start to agree with other posts, quote an entire post from someone and add “He’s right” at the end. Finally, I’d ask the anti a bunch of questions, then puss out like a little girl when he outsmarted me.
Get what I'm saying, Steve?
Glex
April 2nd, 2004, 05:31 PM
Do you even know the meaning of the word "generalization". It implies to include "loosely", as when someone says, "Niggers are stupid." When someone is "generalizing", does that mean they're insinuating all niggers are stupid? Of course not. It means most niggers are stupid. Same thing when I made the generalization about lack of creative talent on the part of kikes. Then you go dredge-up a list of anomalous jews to post. Anomalous: meaning not falling into a general category, out of the ordinary. Do you understand this, or is it too over your head?
I understand it fine, asshole addict. I just happen to disagree that they constitute an anomaly.
You say you never said jews were a "creative or brilliant race." Quite true. Bout fucking time you started to actually read what I said dickmuncher! Maybe I should use insults more often if that’s what it takes for you to understand.
But tell me, just what race do you consider creative and brilliant if not the jews?
I consider that some races are good at some things, others at others. And so do you, asswipe!
You're a jewass-kissing, groveling bootlicker, are'nt you?
No, you are the one that worships the jew. Think about it. You ascribe to the jew abilities that whites don’t have. Somehow the jew is able to outsmart the white man, turn his women against him, steal his money, make laws against him, etc, etc. You love and envy the jew that can do what you can’t.
No scumbag - you did'nt say jews were creative and brilliant, you simply imply as much by your unabashed enthusiam for all things jewish.
Alright micro-dick, show me where I have implied this. Search my posts and find even one tiny (like your mind) speck of data to show that I have any enthusiasm for jews. Just one post motherfucker. Can you do that? Why not, cum-guzzler? Why not?
due in large part to the miscegenation encouraged by "guess who" and jew-founded and controlled orgs like NOW?
“Due in part” IN PART My point exactly idiot! In part! If they were completely you might have a point. But since, as you say, they only played a part, you don’t. Jesus, do you even read what you post moron?
And how do you sleep at night knowing that your own culture and proud history is being relentlessly, methodically, and purposely vilified and shit-on by a kike-dominated "edjewcational" system intent on nothing less than its total destruction? Tell me......how the hell do you do it?
The yearly stipend by the ADL helps. Idiot.
Glex
April 2nd, 2004, 05:37 PM
It's time to seriously go to work on that evasive, lyin' punk's ass.
Pretty scary there Hoax! What are you gonna’ do? Capitalize your posts to me? Pussy. If you could counter my points, you would. You wouldn’t have to rely on threats, would you? What group of people do you know that resorts to threats and smears instead of honest debate?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 2nd, 2004, 06:22 PM
Pretty scary there Hoax! What are you gonna’ do? Capitalize your posts to me? Pussy. If you could counter my points, you would. You wouldn’t have to rely on threats, would you? What group of people do you know that resorts to threats and smears instead of honest debate?
Damn! You're even more of a moron than I had originally given you credit for being. And that's saying something. Where pray tell, do you see anything in that short little post that even hints of a "threat?" You, bootlicker, are not even remotely a challenge for any WN you've gone up against on this board. You've had your jewdick-sucking, gerbil-jammin' ass handed to you on a platter every time you've gone at it with a White man on this board - and you know it. You ain't shit - just another pillowbiting faggot with absolutely no balls whatsoever.
BTW - Think I'm a pussy? PM me, okay?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 2nd, 2004, 06:33 PM
I understand it fine, asshole addict. I just happen to disagree that they constitute an anomaly.
Bout fucking time you started to actually read what I said dickmuncher! Maybe I should use insults more often if that’s what it takes for you to understand.
I consider that some races are good at some things, others at others. And so do you, asswipe!
No, you are the one that worships the jew. Think about it. You ascribe to the jew abilities that whites don’t have. Somehow the jew is able to outsmart the white man, turn his women against him, steal his money, make laws against him, etc, etc. You love and envy the jew that can do what you can’t.
Alright micro-dick, show me where I have implied this. Search my posts and find even one tiny (like your mind) speck of data to show that I have any enthusiasm for jews. Just one post motherfucker. Can you do that? Why not, cum-guzzler? Why not?
“Due in part” IN PART My point exactly idiot! In part! If they were completely you might have a point. But since, as you say, they only played a part, you don’t. Jesus, do you even read what you post moron?
The yearly stipend by the ADL helps. Idiot.Case closed - scratch up another one in the "loss" column for ya', eh bootlicker? See your jew masters are teaching you well - your evasiveness and tenacious persistence of a moot point is quite extraordinary.
( Oh, and btw - I've noticed you're starting to lose your composure there, huh, jewdick-sucker? Heh, heh! I'll have you slithering right back into the hole in the ground you came from yet.)
Glex
April 3rd, 2004, 12:30 AM
Case closed - scratch up another one in the "loss" column for ya', eh bootlicker? See your jew masters are teaching you well - your evasiveness and tenacious persistence of a moot point is quite extraordinary.
"Case closed" in other words, you have no answer. You are a pussy, Hoax. A pussy that has to hide behind “Case closed” because you lack the balls or intelligence to address what I said.
( Oh, and btw - I've noticed you're starting to lose your composure there, huh, jewdick-sucker? Heh, heh! I'll have you slithering right back into the hole in the ground you came from yet.)
Lose my composure? I started to insult you in response to your insults. I figured it was the only way to get through that thick skull of yours. Guess I was right! But I have to ask, why do you need to resort to insults? If your case is so obviously made, why do you have to smear? I thought only lies required that, not truth!
But don’t let that be an excuse to actually respond to something I said. Just punk out of the debate like the little bitch you are. “case closed”? Sure is, bitch.
Steve B
April 3rd, 2004, 01:00 AM
"Case closed" in other words, you have no answer. You are a pussy, Hoax. A pussy that has to hide behind “Case closed” because you lack the balls or intelligence to address what I said.
Lose my composure? I started to insult you in response to your insults. I figured it was the only way to get through that thick skull of yours. Guess I was right! But I have to ask, why do you need to resort to insults? If your case is so obviously made, why do you have to smear? I thought only lies required that, not truth!
But don’t let that be an excuse to actually respond to something I said. Just punk out of the debate like the little bitch you are. “case closed”? Sure is, bitch.
Glex, I was wondering... could we debate in person? I see that you don't post your location but instead rely on name calling and insults, safe in the knowledge over the internet that in my opinion you wouldn't have the guts to say to anyone on a face to face basis.
What I'm saying is, boy.....will you PM me and set up face to face meeting with dates, times and locations where we might come to a meeting of the minds, as they say?
I'm not threatening you and I promise I won't hurt you. All I want to do is discuss our differences. You don't have a problem with that do you? Just a friendly meeting of two people with opposing view points. Can we do that, Glex?
I don't want to get into specifics over the internet but suffice to say I already know your general location as your IP address is logged on VNN forum.
I can make the trip...no problem. Just tell me when and where and we can hash out the pro's and cons like two gentlemen.
Well how bout it, Glex? You wanna tell me what a "pussy" I am to my face?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 3rd, 2004, 09:33 AM
"Case closed" in other words, you have no answer. You are a pussy, Hoax. A pussy that has to hide behind “Case closed” because you lack the balls or intelligence to address what I said.
Lose my composure? I started to insult you in response to your insults. I figured it was the only way to get through that thick skull of yours. Guess I was right! But I have to ask, why do you need to resort to insults? If your case is so obviously made, why do you have to smear? I thought only lies required that, not truth!
But don’t let that be an excuse to actually respond to something I said. Just punk out of the debate like the little bitch you are. “case closed”? Sure is, bitch.Another one who's blown his pathetic little wad. Why don't you just follow your master, Yidhudi, to the Wailing Wall and bawl your eyes out with him, like a good little bootlicker? Heh, heh! Funny how I've been insulting you all along and now you decide to reciprocate. Sorry Nancy, ain't buying it. Everyone here's noticed that you're coming apart at the seams - not just me.
"Just punk out of the debate.....?" Take a look at your last few posts in this thread. They're nothing but evasive and totally nonsensical comments from a defeated and shamed race traitor trying to act like he's still in the thick of the action. It's no longer a "debate", dipshit, it's merely the remnants of a "man" desperately grasping at straws, frantically trying to give the impression that he can piss in the weeds with the big dogs. You're done here, and you know it.
BTW Steve - You don't seriously think this jewdick-sucking sissy is actually gonna take you up on your...."offer", do you? I more or less hinted at the same thing on this thread and guess what? Still waiting.....
Glex
April 3rd, 2004, 10:07 AM
Glex, I was wondering... could we debate in person?
What good would that do? You’d just wimp out like you have so many other times on this board. Why would face to face be any different?
I see that you don't post your location but instead rely on name calling and insults, safe in the knowledge over the internet that in my opinion you wouldn't have the guts to say to anyone on a face to face basis.
Lots of people don’t post their location. I “rely” on insults only because I was so insulted. I kept a civil tone much longer than I should have. I merely stooped to your level to get my point across. I also hoped that by making my insults as dumb as they were, you and others would see how over the top they were. As for “safe in the knowledge over the internet”, I’d say that describes you keyboard warriors to a T.
What I'm saying is, boy.....will you PM me and set up face to face meeting with dates, times and locations where we might come to a meeting of the minds, as they say?
I’m probably in another state, moron. Of course not. Geeze, how stupid can you get? Besides, what’s wrong with debating me right here. I’m here, and I at least answer the questions put to me. Shame you can’t say the same, huh?
I'm not threatening you and I promise I won't hurt you. All I want to do is discuss our differences. You don't have a problem with that do you? Just a friendly meeting of two people with opposing view points. Can we do that, Glex?
It’s a shame someone hasn’t invented some kind of “electronic message board”, where people can “meet” on the Internet to discuss their view points. Oh wait! There is! So why do you want to meet me? Because you can’t debate here. If you could debate me here, you simply would! There’d be no need to meet!
I don't want to get into specifics over the internet but suffice to say I already know your general location as your IP address is logged on VNN forum.
Well I’m certainly not using a proxy or anything! But just for kicks, why don’t you post say, my host number?
I can make the trip...no problem. Just tell me when and where and we can hash out the pro's and cons like two gentlemen.
But your aren’t a gentleman, Steve. You had the opportuninty to be one in previous posts, and you dropped the ball. Instead of being a gentleman, you were a self satisfied asshole who could only bluster and insult. Now that you get your ass kicked, now you decide to be reasonable?
Glex
April 3rd, 2004, 10:20 AM
Heh, heh! Funny how I've been insulting you all along and now you decide to reciprocate. Sorry Nancy, ain't buying it. Everyone here's noticed that you're coming apart at the seams - not just me.
Yes, now I’ve decided to reciprocate. I thought that by lowering myself to your level, I might get my point across. I see that it worked. The difference is, I can actually write an entire post without insulting. Can you do the same? Why not? If your case is so strong, why not?
And speaking of strong cases, why couldn’t you answer the questions I put to you before? Too much for you? Let me refresh your memory.
I asked you: show me where I have implied [that jews were brilliant]
Your answer? Silence. Why? If it is so easy to prove that I love jews, why don’t you prove it? All you need is one post of mine where I said it, or even just implied it. Why don’t you prove it then Hoax? Why don’t you?
"Just punk out of the debate.....?" Take a look at your last few posts in this thread. They're nothing but evasive and totally nonsensical comments from a defeated and shamed race traitor trying to act like he's still in the thick of the action.
The kind of evasive and nonsensical comments like calling me a “jewdick-sucking, gerbil-jammin' ass” or a “pillowbiting faggot”? Those kinds of nonsensical comments? What’s good for the goose, Hoax. Don’t want to be insulted? Then don’t insult. I was willing to debate the points long before, and after, you were. Why is it so hard for you to do the same?
It's no longer a "debate", dipshit, it's merely the remnants of a "man" desperately grasping at straws, frantically trying to give the impression that he can piss in the weeds with the big dogs. You're done here, and you know it.
Yes, I don’t matter at all. That’s why you keep replying to me.
BTW Steve - You don't seriously think this jewdick-sucking sissy is actually gonna take you up on your...."offer", do you? I more or less hinted at the same thing on this thread and guess what? Still waiting.....
I sure know what that’s like! I’ve been waiting for someone to take up my offer for a civilized, no insult debate since I got here. And guess what? Still waiting....
MOMUS
April 3rd, 2004, 12:38 PM
I think even most Jews would agree if forced to be honest. I can't think of a more nerdy people, can you?
Why? The topic question was a rhetorical device used to say "I think Jews generally look nerdy, any thoughts?"
There is subject matter for discussion; biological or invironmental reasons for "nerdiness." Most of us have strong opinions on that, as well as anecdotes like Garrett's entertaining tale.
Glex, in your last post you deny making the generalization that jews are brilliant. Is that your current point? I can't find you stating that in the thread but I refuse to pore over the whole thing again. We all know they are not generally stupid.
I must grudgingly agree with you that the junior high school level of name-calling coming from Hoax-this is not an admirable thing. His over-use of it combined with the keyboard bravado, I think, would give an objective reader the sense that you are correct... even though you don't have much of a point in this thread.
Hoax, I don't know you but I hope that the real you is better than what you project here. This forum is no battleground, that's a keyboard in front of you, not a claymore. Quit swaggering and posing, snarling and spitting, it loses arguments for you and it impresses nobody.
You can call me whatever names you like, but I must say that your keyboard persona reminds me of a Barney Fife whose mother let him hang out with the bad boys.
Glex
April 3rd, 2004, 03:40 PM
I think even most Jews would agree if forced to be honest. I can't think of a more nerdy people, can you?
Well, if I just had to choose, I’d say the Chinese. I mean, how many Chinese women do you find attractive? Plenty of Hollywood actresses are jews, and great looking. Didn’t I see somewhere Paul Newman was partly jewish? Not nerdy there. But if you force me to name some generally nerdy group, I’d say Chinese, with nerdy glasses, love of math, all that. Of course, that’s just a generalization.
Glex, in your last post you deny making the generalization that jews are brilliant. Is that your current point? I can't find you stating that in the thread but I refuse to pore over the whole thing again. We all know they are not generally stupid.
That’s my current point, and always has been. I don’t think jews are any better or worse as a group, than any other.
I must grudgingly agree with you that the junior high school level of name-calling coming from Hoax-this is not an admirable thing. His over-use of it combined with the keyboard bravado, I think, would give an objective reader the sense that you are correct... even though you don't have much of a point in this thread.
I’ve always thought it seemed stupid of Hoax too. Typical, but stupid. Glad someone else agrees. And yes, I don’t have much of a point. The only really point is, that it is silly to describe an entire race of people as “nerdy”. All 14 million of them? Dumb.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 3rd, 2004, 03:56 PM
I think even most Jews would agree if forced to be honest. I can't think of a more nerdy people, can you?
Why? The topic question was a rhetorical device used to say "I think Jews generally look nerdy, any thoughts?"
There is subject matter for discussion; biological or invironmental reasons for "nerdiness." Most of us have strong opinions on that, as well as anecdotes like Garrett's entertaining tale.
Glex, in your last post you deny making the generalization that jews are brilliant. Is that your current point? I can't find you stating that in the thread but I refuse to pore over the whole thing again. We all know they are not generally stupid.
I must grudgingly agree with you that the junior high school level of name-calling coming from Hoax-this is not an admirable thing. His over-use of it combined with the keyboard bravado, I think, would give an objective reader the sense that you are correct... even though you don't have much of a point in this thread.
Hoax, I don't know you but I hope that the real you is better than what you project here. This forum is no battleground, that's a keyboard in front of you, not a claymore. Quit swaggering and posing, snarling and spitting, it loses arguments for you and it impresses nobody.
You can call me whatever names you like, but I must say that your keyboard persona reminds me of a Barney Fife whose mother let him hang out with the bad boys.Permit me to straighten you out on one thing, "brother." I know I come across as being loud-mouthed, vulgar, and "tough-talking." But you could'nt be more wrong in your post if you tried. I'm putting up no "front" here at all - believe it. When I put up a post, I try to communicate my thoughts - profanity and all - exactly as I would if I were face-to-face with the person I'm addressing. I simply pull no punches. That's all there is to it. Believe it or not, Momus, people in the real world actually do use all sorts of "nasty" language which you might deem offensive to your ears. Happens all the time - honest! I spend most of my time here in Opposition, and things just tend to get a little heated over here. Tempers flare. I admit - I should rein it in a bit. But are you going to tell me that you don't run into people in your world who don't use the same "violent", oh-so-offensive language that I use in my posts, when they're confronted with hotly-contested issues like race? If so, What Ivory Tower do you live in?
I happen to live in a mud-infested region of the country where racial tensions often reach the breaking point. Not a week goes by where I don't come thiiiiiis close to getting into it - either verbally or physically - with either a kike, cuban, haitian, brazilian, or just plain ol' fashioned americoon. And I'm sure there's plenty of others on this board who experience the same things in their everyday lives. Now do you see where I'm coming from?
And btw - I could'nt disagree more with you. Opposition is a battleground - a verbal battleground. It all may be a joke to you....but it's not to me.
Winter
April 3rd, 2004, 04:02 PM
They spend alot of time reading the forums.
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 3rd, 2004, 04:18 PM
They spend alot of time reading the forums.
Eh....what was that?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 3rd, 2004, 06:18 PM
I’ve always thought it seemed stupid of Hoax too. Typical, but stupid. Glad someone else agrees. And yes, I don’t have much of a point. The only really point is, that it is silly to describe an entire race of people as “nerdy”. All 14 million of them? Dumb.Hmm. Learn that brown-nosing technique in 'Jewass-kissing 101', did ya? Don't be burrowing your shit-seeking nose too far up his ass, perGlexed, I don't think he's gonna buddy-up to you.
Oh my! I'm being nasty again!
MOMUS
April 3rd, 2004, 08:17 PM
but I don't use niggers or trash on Jerry Springer as my models for debate. You'll do what you like but a person who is new here, upon reading the posts of you and Glex, would likely chose his side simply because he is more reasonable and doesn't need to spit invective; and, perhaps more to the point, choose him over you as a person to associate with. If you can't present your case using reason and logic then name-calling only makes you look worse.
You, more than anybody on this forum, embody in your language the stereoptypical "hater" the ADL that would like us all to seem. I like to think that I support a cause that is right. I see no need to dwell on torture like a Dershowitz would.
But, hey, have fun "pissin' in the weeds with the big dogs" if that is what you think you are doing. Tear 'em a new asshole. Don't limit your posts, endulge your spleen and slaughter the enemy with your keyboard. Rape, torture, and pillage the survivors. Bah.
Permit me to straighten you out on one thing, "brother." I know I come across as being loud-mouthed, vulgar, and "tough-talking." But you could'nt be more wrong in your post if you tried. I'm putting up no "front" here at all - believe it. When I put up a post, I try to communicate my thoughts - profanity and all - exactly as I would if I were face-to-face with the person I'm addressing. I simply pull no punches. That's all there is to it. Believe it or not, Momus, people in the real world actually do use all sorts of "nasty" language which you might deem offensive to your ears. Happens all the time - honest! I spend most of my time here in Opposition, and things just tend to get a little heated over here. Tempers flare. I admit - I should rein it in a bit. But are you going to tell me that you don't run into people in your world who don't use the same "violent", oh-so-offensive language that I use in my posts, when they're confronted with hotly-contested issues like race? If so, What Ivory Tower do you live in?
I happen to live in a mud-infested region of the country where racial tensions often reach the breaking point. Not a week goes by where I don't come thiiiiiis close to getting into it - either verbally or physically - with either a kike, cuban, haitian, brazilian, or just plain ol' fashioned americoon. And I'm sure there's plenty of others on this board who experience the same things in their everyday lives. Now do you see where I'm coming from?
And btw - I could'nt disagree more with you. Opposition is a battleground - a verbal battleground. It all may be a joke to you....but it's not to me.
Glex
April 3rd, 2004, 08:45 PM
Hmm. Learn that brown-nosing technique in 'Jewass-kissing 101', did ya? Don't be burrowing your shit-seeking nose too far up his ass, perGlexed, I don't think he's gonna buddy-up to you.
Jesus Christ dude, I was simply agreeing we something he said! If that constitutes ass-kissing in your book, I feel sorry for you.
Steve B
April 3rd, 2004, 09:34 PM
What good would that do? You’d just wimp out like you have so many other times on this board. Why would face to face be any different?
Lots of people don’t post their location. I “rely” on insults only because I was so insulted. I kept a civil tone much longer than I should have. I merely stooped to your level to get my point across. I also hoped that by making my insults as dumb as they were, you and others would see how over the top they were. As for “safe in the knowledge over the internet”, I’d say that describes you keyboard warriors to a T.
I’m probably in another state, moron. Of course not. Geeze, how stupid can you get? Besides, what’s wrong with debating me right here. I’m here, and I at least answer the questions put to me. Shame you can’t say the same, huh?
It’s a shame someone hasn’t invented some kind of “electronic message board”, where people can “meet” on the Internet to discuss their view points. Oh wait! There is! So why do you want to meet me? Because you can’t debate here. If you could debate me here, you simply would! There’d be no need to meet!
Well I’m certainly not using a proxy or anything! But just for kicks, why don’t you post say, my host number?
But your aren’t a gentleman, Steve. You had the opportuninty to be one in previous posts, and you dropped the ball. Instead of being a gentleman, you were a self satisfied asshole who could only bluster and insult. Now that you get your ass kicked, now you decide to be reasonable?
Glex,
You may find this hard to believe, but I respect your opinion. Your arguments are concise, well thought out and articulate. You make many valid points in regards to White Nationalists and the generalizations we make about groups of people.
We blame Jews for all of our problems without looking to ourselves for the root cause of these perplexities that afflict us. I, like many Americans think their is something very very wrong with the country I live in. I am against war of any kind. I am especially against this war in Iraq. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with WMD and bringing "democracy" to the Middle East but is in fact about the control of Middle East oil supplies and the elimination of one of Israels enemys in the region. White, Black and Hispanic Americans coming home in body bags everyday just so Mobil Oil can sell me gas at 2 bucks a gallon? But what can I do about it? Vote my way out of it? How?.... I have 2 choices... Bush or Kerry, both support the war.
I also don't like the lies and verbiage I see on mainstream meda that gets rammed down my throat day after day in the name of "truth". It's so obviously slanted and biased that it would be laughable if it weren't so sad. You're a smart guy, Glex....you must see it. Is it "fair and balanced" in your opinion? I remember when the WTC were brought down. Fox news had on Benjiman Neytanyhu(sp?) former Prime Minister of Israel..he couldn't contain his glee that we had been attacked by "Arab terrorists". That and dancing Israelis caught by the FBI filming the attack and leaping for joy! Then the story gets buried and the Israelis only deported! Had an Arab leader said the same and Arab intelligence been caught doing the same would our news media and Government have reacted the same way?
Should I just turn off my TV, as so many WN's have done, if I don't like what I'm seeing? Or maybe just buy my own network, eh? Should I make a movie about it that costs me 30 million and have every media mogul, newspaper, network, ADL, on my case calling me an "anti-semite" and trying to stop me by any means necessary? Iv'e seen you advise such a thing in some of your posts.
Do hate crimes laws that only seem to apply to White Males bother you? We've seen story after story of Black on White crime that never makes national main stream news media (i.e. the Witcha massacre). Yet the James Byrd dragging, dispicable as it was, is still receiving national media attention, years after the fact! Maybe these things are just coincidences, but I wonder.
Do Affirmative Action laws that discrimate against people who have better grades and better SAT scores bother you? Have you ever been denied a slot at a major college based on the color of your skin?
What I'm trying to say Glex is I used to be just like you. I believed that I had a voice in my Government. If I didn't like the way things were I could vote the sum bitch out of office. If I didn't like what I saw on TV I simply turned the channel to something I did like. Now every channel is the same. I believed every American no matter what the color of his skin, should be judged on the content of his or her character, that all men are created equal and I held these truths to be self-evident.
But I don't see any of that anymore. I see a rotten, hypocritical, lying, cheating Government back up by mass media that sticks it to me everytime I turn around and it's had the effect of pushing me into the arms of White Nationalism!
I don't want to be here, Glex! Believe me...I DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE!!! But Iv'e reached the point where I don't think I have anymore choice! You say WN is nothing more that a fringe movement that is losing members and has been discredited. YOU'RE WRONG! The movement gains disaffected White males everyday. The movement has spread throughout Europe and it's coming here.
There is a deep part of my heart that wishes it won't happen. I don't want strife and pain and hurt and economic upheavel and violence because I have a family to protect and I don't want them to go through that. But by the same token I won't live like a dog and a second rate citizen in my own country where everything is a lie and up is down and evil is good and peace is war and Arabs hate us for our democracy!
Can you see where I'm coming from, Glex? Or am I just some "crazed, evil White man" who hasn't been properly indoctrinated?
Draco
April 3rd, 2004, 10:10 PM
Jews have always been nerdy, but Mighty Aphrodite most likely cemented the "nebbishy" Woody Allen as the typical jew. Which is actually fairly accurate it seems, so it all turned out.
Then again, when ever I take the M4 bus, theres a hideous hook-nosed bum named Moses begging for change, and four days ago I ran into a jew I went to high school with, never too bright, he was stocking the shelves at the supermarket, despite being about 21, possibly 22 years old.
Perhaps the proprtion of nerdy jews simply outweighs the dumber ones?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 4th, 2004, 09:59 AM
but I don't use niggers or trash on Jerry Springer as my models for debate. You'll do what you like but a person who is new here, upon reading the posts of you and Glex, would likely chose his side simply because he is more reasonable and doesn't need to spit invective; and, perhaps more to the point, choose him over you as a person to associate with. If you can't present your case using reason and logic then name-calling only makes you look worse.
You, more than anybody on this forum, embody in your language the stereoptypical "hater" the ADL that would like us all to seem. I like to think that I support a cause that is right. I see no need to dwell on torture like a Dershowitz would.
But, hey, have fun "pissin' in the weeds with the big dogs" if that is what you think you are doing. Tear 'em a new asshole. Don't limit your posts, endulge your spleen and slaughter the enemy with your keyboard. Rape, torture, and pillage the survivors. Bah. Just who the hell do you think you are anyway, giving me lessons in forum etiquette, Miss Manners? Or is is 'Massuh Momus' now?
I've had about enough out of you, Momus. And seeing as how I'm a firm believer in the old adage, "A good offense is the best defense", I think it's time to take off the gloves. Would'nt you agree? So.....off they come.
Are you Italian, Momus? Seriously? No knock against Italians or anything, but I was just wondering if the word 'vendetta' carried any weight with you. You see, something tells me that this little attack of yours had its origins in the "White Race" thread started by Eunuch just about one month ago. Remember that one, Momus? I'm sure you do, but just in case you don't, let me refresh your memory. (Sorry folks, but I don't know how to copy a thread onto a new post, so this will have to do).
At the bottom of the first page of the thread, I made a short post referring to Eunuch as a liberal. You completely misinterpreted the meaning of what I was saying, and thought I was calling you a liberal. Remember?
Then, after realizing your mistake - instead of being man enough to fess-up to it - you go on and on, like one of our residents antis here, trying to get yourself out of the pickle you found yourself in. What struck me most about that little exchange was your remarkable stubborness in refusing to acknowledge so trivial an error. A mature person would've simply said something like, "Oops! Sorry", and put the matter to rest. But not you, oh no! You throw a hissy fit that would've put a 10 y.o to shame. I made you look foolish, and I'm of the personal opinion that this little drubbing you received is directly related to your opening volley here. But, we'll just leave that to the readers to decide. Okay? Maybe you should have waited just a little bit longer to launch your second attack against me Momus, I might have forgotten about the first one with the passage of time. Remember this: "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
And as long as we're exchanging impressions of one another, let me give you mine. Personally, Momus, I don't give a damn what you think of me, or my posting style. After reading more than my share of your posts, I get the sinking feeling you're just a wannabe who wants nothing more than to hobknob and rub elbows with the more 'cerebral' posters on this board. I just sense it in your posts. There's a class of gents here who are a helluva lot more educated and intelligent than either you or I. I admire them, you aspire to be one of them. Of course, this is mere conjecture - no way to actually prove it. But if it is true, just remember one thing, Momus: try as you might, it just ain't gonna happen. Ya' simply don't have it up in the ol' noggin there, sport. Learn to accept your mental limitations, it'll be a load off your mind (eh....no pun intended, of course). Your sense of humor - what exists of it - I find to be rather dry and vapid. (Lighten the fuck up already, ya' stuffed shirt). This, anyway, is my opinion of you. I mean, as long as we're exchanging 'best wishes' and all.
And finally: you say I remind you of a Barney Fife whose mother let him hang out with the bad boys. Funny you should say that. For some strange, inexplicable reason, two images pop into my mind when I think of you: one being of Bill Clinton making an anti-war speech in Moscow (at the height of the VN war) during his Oxford years. And the other, that of Jane Fonda in a red-starred pith helmet pretty much doing the same thing in Hanoi. Odd.....is'nt it?
p.s. - And thanks for diverting my time and energy away from the antis. I'm sure they at least appreciate your help and cooperation. Gotta be tee-heeing their asses off by now, dont' you think? Just kickin' back and enjoying the show......
Fuckin' idiot.
Gott
April 4th, 2004, 11:21 AM
Glex,
You may find this hard to believe, but I respect your opinion. Your arguments are concise, well thought out and articulate. You make many valid points in regards to White Nationalists and the generalizations we make about groups of people.
We blame Jews for all of our problems without looking to ourselves for the root cause of these perplexities that afflict us. I, like many Americans think their is something very very wrong with the country I live in. I am against war of any kind. I am especially against this war in Iraq. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with WMD and bringing "democracy" to the Middle East but is in fact about the control of Middle East oil supplies and the elimination of one of Israels enemys in the region. White, Black and Hispanic Americans coming home in body bags everyday just so Mobil Oil can sell me gas at 2 bucks a gallon? But what can I do about it? Vote my way out of it? How?.... I have 2 choices... Bush or Kerry, both support the war.
I also don't like the lies and verbiage I see on mainstream meda that gets rammed down my throat day after day in the name of "truth". It's so obviously slanted and biased that it would be laughable if it weren't so sad. You're a smart guy, Glex....you must see it. Is it "fair and balanced" in your opinion? I remember when the WTC were brought down. Fox news had on Benjiman Neytanyhu(sp?) former Prime Minister of Israel..he couldn't contain his glee that we had been attacked by "Arab terrorists". That and dancing Israelis caught by the FBI filming the attack and leaping for joy! Then the story gets buried and the Israelis only deported! Had an Arab leader said the same and Arab intelligence been caught doing the same would our news media and Government have reacted the same way?
Should I just turn off my TV, as so many WN's have done, if I don't like what I'm seeing? Or maybe just buy my own network, eh? Should I make a movie about it that costs me 30 million and have every media mogul, newspaper, network, ADL, on my case calling me an "anti-semite" and trying to stop me by any means necessary? Iv'e seen you advise such a thing in some of your posts.
Do hate crimes laws that only seem to apply to White Males bother you? We've seen story after story of Black on White crime that never makes national main stream news media (i.e. the Witcha massacre). Yet the James Byrd dragging, dispicable as it was, is still receiving national media attention, years after the fact! Maybe these things are just coincidences, but I wonder.
Do Affirmative Action laws that discrimate against people who have better grades and better SAT scores bother you? Have you ever been denied a slot at a major college based on the color of your skin?
What I'm trying to say Glex is I used to be just like you. I believed that I had a voice in my Government. If I didn't like the way things were I could vote the sum bitch out of office. If I didn't like what I saw on TV I simply turned the channel to something I did like. Now every channel is the same. I believed every American no matter what the color of his skin, should be judged on the content of his or her character, that all men are created equal and I held these truths to be self-evident.
But I don't see any of that anymore. I see a rotten, hypocritical, lying, cheating Government back up by mass media that sticks it to me everytime I turn around and it's had the effect of pushing me into the arms of White Nationalism!
I don't want to be here, Glex! Believe me...I DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE!!! But Iv'e reached the point where I don't think I have anymore choice! You say WN is nothing more that a fringe movement that is losing members and has been discredited. YOU'RE WRONG! The movement gains disaffected White males everyday. The movement has spread throughout Europe and it's coming here.
There is a deep part of my heart that wishes it won't happen. I don't want strife and pain and hurt and economic upheavel and violence because I have a family to protect and I don't want them to go through that. But by the same token I won't live like a dog and a second rate citizen in my own country where everything is a lie and up is down and evil is good and peace is war and Arabs hate us for our democracy!
Can you see where I'm coming from, Glex? Or am I just some "crazed, evil White man" who hasn't been properly indoctrinated?
Extraordinarily good post. This should be saved and reused whenever things start to get too wild around here (pretty often) to help all of us get back on the track to convert the millions of white men out there who have vague misgivings but who can't yet cross over into the opposition. I know from personal experience - I was a very good little lemming for a large portion of my life - that cutting myself off from the value system the ZOG sells was one of the most difficult things I ever did. I have a tough time sleeping most nights now - but even so, it's better to know the truth than to be blind and a willing slave...and all that.
This piece, Steve - keep it and reuse it when ever debating a smart guy like glex who might well be open to the truth (OK, as we see it ,glex).
Why not stop fighting you guys? This thread is why are jews so nerdy, not let's make points off of each other.
Unite for victory!
MOMUS
April 4th, 2004, 02:46 PM
HAR HAR! I'm scared now. What will my punishment be, death by capital letters? Torture of a thousand naughty words?
Let me show you something Hoaxie;
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve B
"Thier" and "acuimen" are spelled...their and acumen. How "amusing"!
Awesome catch on that one, Steve! Wheewwie! Gotta put that one in the 'Jew Boo-Boo Hall of Shame', that's for damn sure.
Hey Yidhudi - got enough paper towels to get all that egg off your face?
That is a good enough sample of your noble efforts in fighting antis. They look forward to talking to you because you give them just what they want; an ignorant response.
My neighbor's dog thinks he drives away the postman every day with his barking.
Now scuttle from under your porch and get out there like a good lil dog and bark those antis to death. They want you to come on back.
Heh, heh!Just who the hell do you think you are anyway, giving me lessons in forum etiquette, Miss Manners? Or is is 'Massuh Momus' now?
I've had about enough out of you, Momus. And seeing as how I'm a firm believer in the old adage, "A good offense is the best defense", I think it's time to take off the gloves. Would'nt you agree? So.....off they come.
Are you Italian, Momus? Seriously? No knock against Italians or anything, but I was just wondering if the word 'vendetta' carried any weight with you. You see, something tells me that this little attack of yours had its origins in the "White Race" thread started by Eunuch just about one month ago. Remember that one, Momus? I'm sure you do, but just in case you don't, let me refresh your memory. (Sorry folks, but I don't know how to copy a thread onto a new post, so this will have to do).
At the bottom of the first page of the thread, I made a short post referring to Eunuch as a liberal. You completely misinterpreted the meaning of what I was saying, and thought I was calling you a liberal. Remember?
Then, after realizing your mistake - instead of being man enough to fess-up to it - you go on and on, like one of our residents antis here, trying to get yourself out of the pickle you found yourself in. What struck me most about that little exchange was your remarkable stubborness in refusing to acknowledge so trivial an error. A mature person would've simply said something like, "Oops! Sorry", and put the matter to rest. But not you, oh no! You throw a hissy fit that would've put a 10 y.o to shame. I made you look foolish, and I'm of the personal opinion that this little drubbing you received is directly related to your opening volley here. But, we'll just leave that to the readers to decide. Okay? Maybe you should have waited just a little bit longer to launch your second attack against me Momus, I might have forgotten about the first one with the passage of time. Remember this: "Revenge is a dish best served cold."
And as long as we're exchanging impressions of one another, let me give you mine. Personally, Momus, I don't give a damn what you think of me, or my posting style. After reading more than my share of your posts, I get the sinking feeling you're just a wannabe who wants nothing more than to hobknob and rub elbows with the more 'cerebral' posters on this board. I just sense it in your posts. There's a class of gents here who are a helluva lot more educated and intelligent than either you or I. I admire them, you aspire to be one of them. Of course, this is mere conjecture - no way to actually prove it. But if it is true, just remember one thing, Momus: try as you might, it just ain't gonna happen. Ya' simply don't have it up in the ol' noggin there, sport. Learn to accept your mental limitations, it'll be a load off your mind (eh....no pun intended, of course). Your sense of humor - what exists of it - I find to be rather dry and vapid. (Lighten the fuck up already, ya' stuffed shirt). This, anyway, is my opinion of you. I mean, as long as we're exchanging 'best wishes' and all.
And finally: you say I remind you of a Barney Fife whose mother let him hang out with the bad boys. Funny you should say that. For some strange, inexplicable reason, two images pop into my mind when I think of you: one being of Bill Clinton making an anti-war speech in Moscow (at the height of the VN war) during his Oxford years. And the other, that of Jane Fonda in a red-starred pith helmet pretty much doing the same thing in Hanoi. Odd.....is'nt it?
p.s. - And thanks for diverting my time and energy away from the antis. I'm sure they at least appreciate your help and cooperation. Gotta be tee-heeing their asses off by now, dont' you think? Just kickin' back and enjoying the show......
Fuckin' idiot.
MOMUS
April 4th, 2004, 03:35 PM
Just wondering...
HAR HAR! I'm scared now. What will my punishment be, death by capital letters? Torture of a thousand naughty words?
Let me show you something Hoaxie;
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve B
"Thier" and "acuimen" are spelled...their and acumen. How "amusing"!
Awesome catch on that one, Steve! Wheewwie! Gotta put that one in the 'Jew Boo-Boo Hall of Shame', that's for damn sure.
Hey Yidhudi - got enough paper towels to get all that egg off your face?
That is a good enough sample of your noble efforts in fighting antis. They look forward to talking to you because you give them just what they want; an ignorant response.
My neighbor's dog thinks he drives away the postman every day with his barking.
Now scuttle from under your porch and get out there like a good lil dog and bark those antis to death. They want you to come on back.
Heh, heh!
MOMUS
April 4th, 2004, 05:12 PM
Forum disgust is more like it for me. Nope, this is no parting flourish but I am done with this little spat with you, Hoax, after this.
Yes, Hoaxter, I'll read your response; you will get the last word here between us and you can, as is your custom, cry out "case closed!" and carve another notch in your blood-stained keyboard.
Now, though, Mr. Hoax, while I have your captive attention, I'll get mine in.
It seems that we agree that there are certain writers at this forum whose posts stand out above the others and make the forum worth reading for those who think. We also agree that the other of us is not one of those posters.
You say I aspire to be among them, "pissin' in the weeds with the big dogs" as you would say. Bah. Nope. I'm getting sick of the joint, mostly because of jerks like you. There are, indeed, some masterful debators here but you belong among the masterbators posting the never-ending "what's your favorite porn?" threads
You picture me a former liberal- nope. Never could make that leap, even when and where it was the only way to be cool. It took me a lot longer to reach an awareness of the control we are under than it has the computer generation, though. By the way I concur with your assessment of my mental abilities when it comes to computers, etc. I'm still struggling with the functions here at this forum. Gosh, we have that in common too.
Now, like I said, you seem like a racist caricature to me, like someone JDL might have thought up. You could be their poster-boy racist. But I think you are for real; a really angry mean-spirited individual who is none too bright. Again, are you Yankee Jim from Hal Turner?
Some people are here in an effort to help their own people. Good people who are looking to do good for their folk rather than focus on doing harm to others. What is good for us is not good for our oppressors. That fact is faced here. Most agree that whatever comes down won't be fun or pretty. You like to dwell on that. I guess you represent the sadistic wing of the movement, you'd volunteer for the torture squad.
You take your yapping and snapping far too seriously, its ludicrous. I remember what you are talking about in that earlier post, that was when I first realized how seriously you take sticking those little decals on your fuselage after a forum "victory". You butted in snarling about "you liberals."
You won, remember? I didn't care what ever the hell you were arguing about but you would likely still be beating the dead horse if I hadn't granted you your silly triumph. You haven't changed and you won't.
A quote here for you;
The real value of VNNF in my opinion is meeting people in the forum and then taking the next step and meeting them offline, not the jibber jabber posted heer.
So, swagger, snarl, and spit you keyboard Nazi, your jibber jabber is knocking them dead. Now you must take time off again from guarding the perimeter to shoot me down in flames. Have your last word, claim your little trophy, and get back on duty, mighty hero.
As your role-models in debate would say, "Tawk to da hand, da haid ain't lissenin'."
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 4th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Forum disgust is more like it for me. Nope, this is no parting flourish but I am done with this little spat with you, Hoax, after this.
Yes, Hoaxter, I'll read your response; you will get the last word here between us and you can, as is your custom, cry out "case closed!" and carve another notch in your blood-stained keyboard.
Now, though, Mr. Hoax, while I have your captive attention, I'll get mine in.
It seems that we agree that there are certain writers at this forum whose posts stand out above the others and make the forum worth reading for those who think. We also agree that the other of us is not one of those posters.
You say I aspire to be among them, "pissin' in the weeds with the big dogs" as you would say. Bah. Nope. I'm getting sick of the joint, mostly because of jerks like you. There are, indeed, some masterful debators here but you belong among the masterbators posting the never-ending "what's your favorite porn?" threads
You picture me a former liberal- nope. Never could make that leap, even when and where it was the only way to be cool. It took me a lot longer to reach an awareness of the control we are under than it has the computer generation, though. By the way I concur with your assessment of my mental abilities when it comes to computers, etc. I'm still struggling with the functions here at this forum. Gosh, we have that in common too.
Now, like I said, you seem like a racist caricature to me, like someone JDL might have thought up. You could be their poster-boy racist. But I think you are for real; a really angry mean-spirited individual who is none too bright. Again, are you Yankee Jim from Hal Turner?
Some people are here in an effort to help their own people. Good people who are looking to do good for their folk rather than focus on doing harm to others. What is good for us is not good for our oppressors. That fact is faced here. Most agree that whatever comes down won't be fun or pretty. You like to dwell on that. I guess you represent the sadistic wing of the movement, you'd volunteer for the torture squad.
You take your yapping and snapping far too seriously, its ludicrous. I remember what you are talking about in that earlier post, that was when I first realized how seriously you take sticking those little decals on your fuselage after a forum "victory". You butted in snarling about "you liberals."
You won, remember? I didn't care what ever the hell you were arguing about but you would likely still be beating the dead horse if I hadn't granted you your silly triumph. You haven't changed and you won't.
A quote here for you;
The real value of VNNF in my opinion is meeting people in the forum and then taking the next step and meeting them offline, not the jibber jabber posted heer.
So, swagger, snarl, and spit you keyboard Nazi, your jibber jabber is knocking them dead. Now you must take time off again from guarding the perimeter to shoot me down in flames. Have your last word, claim your little trophy, and get back on duty, mighty hero.
As your role-models in debate would say, "Tawk to da hand, da haid ain't lissenin'."Eh...could I interrupt this little conversation you seem to be having with yourself to get just a word or two in? Thanks, appreciate it.
Did'nt really think I'd get you on the ropes that fast this time, Momus, to be totally honest with you. Judging by the looks of your last two "babblings", it seems you've thrown the best you can possibly muster. You've got to learn to pace yourself there, badboy, if you want to make it through the 12th round. Now, allow me to show you how to administer the coup de' tat properly and effectively. Watch and learn -
I notice that you use as an example of my "inane" and "vitriolic" posts one in which I compliment a fellow WN on his attentiveness to an anti's embarrassing fuck-up. (My hat's off to ya', Steve. That was classic). And just what was nasty, mean ol' Hoax's reaction? Why, he viciously and unmercifully attacks the poor, innocent anti with all the tenacity of a nigger tearing into a chicken leg. Awww, poor baby! I just want everyone to see what paradigm of puerility an imbecile uses to highlight his case against someone who he has officially condemned as an embarrassment to The Cause. Hell, a mongolian idiot could've picked out a better example if he wanted to. (You're not "overly" bright, are you, Momus?)
Tell you what, CoDumbo - since your truffle-sniffing instincts seem to be waning somewhat, and you're obviously sporting blinders when you come across anything that just might earn your official stamp of approval, would you like me to cull my previous posts and come up with a few you may have somehow conveniently "overlooked?" Hmm? Anyone here who's read just some of my posts, knows that anger and rage are not all that I exhibit when posting - and you fuckin' know it. Just like you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge past errors on your part, you do likewise when it comes time to admit that maybe - just maybe - someone you don't "approve" of might have something interesting or constructive to say.
BTW there, Slick - you seem to be losing that cool, calm, composure you're so famous for. (Really got to ya' on that last post, eh? Heh, heh!) Before you go scribbling-out prescriptions for ailing patients on this board, Dr. Momus, try sampling some of your own medicine first. Okay?
(Are'nt you glad you decided to fuck with me.....again? You're easier than the antis for Christ's sake. And I mean that in all seriousness).
And no - I'm not Yankee Jim from Hal Turner's Show. Why? Is he yet another guy who's made you look like an asshole?
MOMUS
April 4th, 2004, 07:14 PM
I'm hit! Medic! HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR !
Eh...could I interrupt this little conversation you seem to be having with yourself to get just a word or two in? Thanks, appreciate it.
Did'nt really think I'd get you on the ropes that fast this time, Momus, to be totally honest with you. Judging by the looks of your last two "babblings", it seems you've thrown the best you can possibly muster. You've got to learn to pace yourself there, badboy, if you want to make it through the 12th round. Now, allow me to show you how to administer the coup de' tat properly and effectively. Watch and learn -
I notice that you use as an example of my "inane" and "vitriolic" posts one in which I compliment a fellow WN on his attentiveness to an anti's embarrassing fuck-up. (My hat's off to ya', Steve. That was classic). And just what was nasty, mean ol' Hoax's reaction? Why, he viciously and unmercifully attacks the poor, innocent anti with all the tenacity of a nigger tearing into a chicken leg. Awww, poor baby! I just want everyone to see what paradigm of puerility an imbecile uses to highlight his case against someone who he has officially condemned as an embarrassment to The Cause. Hell, a mongolian idiot could've picked out a better example if he wanted to. (You're not "overly" bright, are you, Momus?)
Tell you what, CoDumbo - since your truffle-sniffing instincts seem to be waning somewhat, and you're obviously sporting blinders when you come across anything that just might earn your official stamp of approval, would you like me to cull my previous posts and come up with a few you may have somehow conveniently "overlooked?" Hmm? Anyone here who's read just some of my posts, knows that anger and rage are not all that I exhibit when posting - and you fuckin' know it. Just like you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge past errors on your part, you do likewise when it comes time to admit that maybe - just maybe - someone you don't "approve" of might have something interesting or constructive to say.
BTW there, Slick - you seem to be losing that cool, calm, composure you're so famous for. (Really got to ya' on that last post, eh? Heh, heh!) Before you go scribbling-out prescriptions for ailing patients on this board, Dr. Momus, try sampling some of your own medicine first. Okay?
(Are'nt you glad you decided to fuck with me.....again? You're easier than the antis for Christ's sake. And I mean that in all seriousness).
And no - I'm not Yankee Jim from Hal Turner's Show. Why? Is he yet another guy who's made you look like an asshole?
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 4th, 2004, 10:28 PM
We must get together like this more often. Matter of fact.....I'll make a point of it.
Toodles
Matthaus Hetzenauer
April 5th, 2004, 05:05 AM
Jesus Christ dude, I was simply agreeing we something he said! If that constitutes ass-kissing in your book, I feel sorry for you.
"What on Earth are you talking about? Who? Me?"
I did'nt expect you to own-up to it, dipshit. I was merely stating the obvious. And save your "pity" for your own kind. One day, hopefully, you'll be doling it out by the bucketloads.
Glex
April 5th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Thank you for your kind, yet puzzling, words Steve.
Glex,
You may find this hard to believe, but I respect your opinion.
I do find it hard to believe, considering as little as two pages ago you were making veiled threats about revealing my IP address and wanting to “meet” me. What happened?
Your arguments are concise, well thought out and articulate. You make many valid points in regards to White Nationalists and the generalizations we make about groups of people.
Really? Two weeks ago you told me how everyone was laughing at me for being so stupid! Now it turns out my arguments are “concise, well thought out and articulate.” How did I manage to turn things around so quickly? At any rate, I see you are being a gentleman, so I’ll do the same.
We blame Jews for all of our problems without looking to ourselves for the root cause of these perplexities that afflict us.
That does seem kind of silly, doesn’t it? Like when the black man says “Whitey is keeping me down!” and actually it’s their own inadequacy.
I, like many Americans think their is something very very wrong with the country I live in. I am against war of any kind. I am especially against this war in Iraq. In my opinion, it has nothing to do with WMD and bringing "democracy" to the Middle East but is in fact about the control of Middle East oil supplies and the elimination of one of Israels enemys in the region.
I’m one of those Americans that sees something wrong with the country. I too am against war. But I only agree with half of the why you posited. I do think the war is for oil, but I just don’t see how it is a war FOR Israel. They may benefit, but I don’t see them being anything but a contributing factor. Have a war for oil is enough of an explanation without adding the international jewish conspiracy.
White, Black and Hispanic Americans coming home in body bags everyday just so Mobil Oil can sell me gas at 2 bucks a gallon?
Well, if you were to be perfectly honest Steve, you really don’t give a damn about those Black of Hispanic Americans, do you? I know you are trying to be non-partisan when you say that, but we both know the truth. It’s the White American’s you care about, isn’t it?
But what can I do about it? Vote my way out of it? How?.... I have 2 choices... Bush or Kerry, both support the war.
Sounds like a third party needs to form. A viable one. Easy? No. Is it any more difficult though, than the formation of other political parties in the past? I don’t think so.
I also don't like the lies and verbiage I see on mainstream meda that gets rammed down my throat day after day in the name of "truth". It's so obviously slanted and biased that it would be laughable if it weren't so sad.
I agree. It is laughably bad. But were we don’t agree is where it comes from. I don’t think that the mainstream media is being giving their daily memo from a jewish star chamber made up of rabbis, the ADL, and Satan himself.
You're a smart guy, Glex....you must see it.
Could have sworn I was stupid! But anyway, yes, I do see it. I just don’t think jews are responsible for it.
As an example, let me point to an old conversation we had, about who killed Kennedy. Just last Saturday, PBS had a program about it, and they featured a tag line from it “The President couldn’t control his sexual appetites. It could have been embarrassing for the country. Did our military decide to do something about it?”
So there you go. I don’t bring that up to prove I was right, but merely to say that there are plenty of just as viable, in fact, even easier to believe explanations for things other than “The jews did it”. In Kennedy’s assassination, as well as control of the media.
Is it "fair and balanced" in your opinion?
Lord no! I was on the newspaper in college a dozen years ago, and I was naïve enough to actually believe that the news should be unbiased. Obviously today’s journalists didn’t write for the same newspaper I did. How is it jews’ fault, again?
cont'd next post
Glex
April 5th, 2004, 11:52 AM
cont'd from last post
I remember when the WTC were brought down. Fox news had on Benjiman Neytanyhu(sp?) former Prime Minister of Israel..he couldn't contain his glee that we had been attacked by "Arab terrorists".
It hardly surprises me that someone would try to pin the blame on their enemy. I think anyone would do that. The fact that he was believed comes from him being a head of state from an ally of ours. I just don’t see anything sinister. Or jewish.
That and dancing Israelis caught by the FBI filming the attack and leaping for joy! Then the story gets buried and the Israelis only deported!
It’s funny. Maybe because the story was “buried” but I have only seen that dancing Israeli” story in the anti-semitic press. If you had seen a story in the “phillo-semitic” press, with no outside corroboration, what would you think?
Had an Arab leader said the same and Arab intelligence been caught doing the same would our news media and Government have reacted the same way?
Of course not. The “arabs” had just killed 3000 Americans, it was thought. Of course they won’t get the same treatment.
Should I just turn off my TV, as so many WN's have done, if I don't like what I'm seeing?
There are worse things to do, yes.
Or maybe just buy my own network, eh?
Read about Lowell Paxson, the founder of Pax TV. Was he a billionaire?
Should I make a movie about it that costs me 30 million and have every media mogul, newspaper, network, ADL, on my case calling me an "anti-semite" and trying to stop me by any means necessary? Iv'e seen you advise such a thing in some of your posts.
Two things here. Money, and being called names. Ever hear of the movie “Pi”? Made in 1998, it was the first movie given away for free on the Internet. It was the first shareware movie. If you liked it, buy it. I bought it. How much does it cost to produce a movie in black and white, with two cameras, using home computer video editing equipment, and distributed on the Internet? Less than 30 million?
As for you being called names, well, your mother told you how to deal with that. “Sticks and Stones….” I seem to recall that the ADL called Mel Gibson all sorts of things. He’s doing Ok, last I heard. Maybe insults aren’t that bad?
Do hate crimes laws that only seem to apply to White Males bother you? We've seen story after story of Black on White crime that never makes national main stream news media (i.e. the Witcha massacre). Yet the James Byrd dragging, dispicable as it was, is still receiving national media attention, years after the fact! Maybe these things are just coincidences, but I wonder.
Hell yes it bothers me! But I don’t see a shadowy jewish interest behind them. I see a pendulum swinging the other way, from white male dominant to white male submissive. The pendulum swings back and forth. Conservative to liberal and back again. I don’t like it, and I’ll be the first to admit I let it happen as much as anyone.
Do Affirmative Action laws that discrimate against people who have better grades and better SAT scores bother you? Have you ever been denied a slot at a major college based on the color of your skin?
It does indeed bother me. Again, I don’t see a jewish influence. I see a liberal guilt “We oppressed them so now we must elevate them” attitude.
What I'm trying to say Glex is I used to be just like you. I believed that I had a voice in my Government. If I didn't like the way things were I could vote the sum bitch out of office. If I didn't like what I saw on TV I simply turned the channel to something I did like. Now every channel is the same. I believed every American no matter what the color of his skin, should be judged on the content of his or her character, that all men are created equal and I held these truths to be self-evident.
But I don't see any of that anymore. I see a rotten, hypocritical, lying, cheating Government back up by mass media that sticks it to me everytime I turn around and it's had the effect of pushing me into the arms of White Nationalism!
I see the same things. Explain to me how jews are responsible for it.
I don't want to be here, Glex! Believe me...I DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE!!!
You don’t have to be, Steve. YOU are in control, right? At one point, you thought the scales were removed from your eyes, until you saw the scales were really removed from your eyes. Can’t you see the same thing happening again? Why not, if it happened before?
But Iv'e reached the point where I don't think I have anymore choice! You say WN is nothing more that a fringe movement that is losing members and has been discredited. YOU'RE WRONG! The movement gains disaffected White males everyday. The movement has spread throughout Europe and it's coming here.
Fine, WN is not losing members. I’ve asked this of several people, and no one has given me an answer, so I’ll ask you. How do you know WN is gaining members? If I was a neutral third party observer that just wanted to tally your group, how would I do so? What source would I look to? Would I look at VNN page hits via Alexa? Dropping. White Revolution membership? Stagnating.
How can I verify your belief that WN is a growing movement?
There is a deep part of my heart that wishes it won't happen. I don't want strife and pain and hurt and economic upheavel and violence because I have a family to protect and I don't want them to go through that. But by the same token I won't live like a dog and a second rate citizen in my own country where everything is a lie and up is down and evil is good and peace is war and Arabs hate us for our democracy!
If by IT you mean “Itz”, then of course you do want it to happen. I have no doubt you are as bloodthirsty as plenty of others I’ve seen here. Wasn’t it just in this thread, about two pages ago, you were cheering Hoax on for talking about breaking someone on the rack? Sounds like that deep part in your heart that wishes it won’t happen is being pretty effectively overridden.
Can you see where I'm coming from, Glex? Or am I just some "crazed, evil White man" who hasn't been properly indoctrinated?
I do see where you are coming from. Dissatisfied with the way the country is going, you search for answers. I do too. How do we get ourselves out of this mess? I don’t know.
But I’ve yet to have anyone here explain how “kill all jews” is the answer.
T.Garrett
April 5th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Glexie
VNNF, after being very popular when it first opened in December 2003, declined in popularity due to ‘growing pains’ over the winter for awhile, but looky now. This site is becoming more popular every day, and so is WN just as Steve said. It’s inevitable that the pendulum ‘swings’ back toward the Right after being stuck on the ‘left’ side for so long in the West, using your analogy, and sites like VNN with incisively written WN are going to become enormously popular in the near future. No matter what argument you attempt to construct to deny it, we are the future and itz coming, certain as the sun rising in the morning. Jewish bolshevism in all its forms has had its day, itz over.
Cheers
TG
PS I think bye the end of 2004, VNNF will break into the top 10k and then by mid 2005 mebbe early 2006 will be one of the top 1000 sites on the web. Wanna put a little money on it Glexie?
Alexa:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=6m&size=medium&compare_sites=&url=vnnforum.com#top
Fine, WN is not losing members. I’ve asked this of several people, and no one has given me an answer, so I’ll ask you. How do you know WN is gaining members? If I was a neutral third party observer that just wanted to tally your group, how would I do so? What source would I look to? Would I look at VNN page hits via Alexa? Dropping. White Revolution membership? Stagnating.
How can I verify your belief that WN is a growing movement?
Georgie
April 5th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Even thought people haven't exactly awoken to the full effect, it is happening on some level. Alot of people are starting to see Israel, Zionists and their influence of certain things. Websites such as whatreallyhappened and rense are good examples of this. I'm sure that there are many more out there.
Steve B
April 6th, 2004, 01:48 AM
Thank you for your kind, yet puzzling, words Steve.
Actually, I had a revelation! Jesus came to me in a dream and said to me: "Let he who is without sin cast the first Glex".
I do find it hard to believe, considering as little as two pages ago you were making veiled threats about revealing my IP address and wanting to “meet” me. What happened?
I have sinned against you, Glex....and I am sorry!
Really? Two weeks ago you told me how everyone was laughing at me for being so stupid! Now it turns out my arguments are “concise, well thought out and articulate.” How did I manage to turn things around so quickly? At any rate, I see you are being a gentleman, so I’ll do the same.
Well, I won't go into the invective you have laid on this board. But lets keep it professional, shall we?
That does seem kind of silly, doesn’t it? Like when the black man says “Whitey is keeping me down!” and actually it’s their own inadequacy..
Very true! However you very rarely criticize blacks for "their own inadequacy". Maybe i missed it. I'm sure you go to black nationalists sites and put the hammer on them for being so "inadequate".
I’m one of those Americans that sees something wrong with the country. I too am against war. But I only agree with half of the why you posited. I do think the war is for oil, but I just don’t see how it is a war FOR Israel. They may benefit, but I don’t see them being anything but a contributing factor. Have a war for oil is enough of an explanation without adding the international jewish conspiracy.
A point of agreement! Both of us are against war and see something wrong with this country. Obviously we differ on just who or what is the problem. Just an aside...you state: The war is for oil but "Israel may benefit". The war is for oil but Israel "may have been a contributing factor". Ok, not a "conspiracy"...just a set of circumstances that happened to come about. No problem here.
Well, if you were to be perfectly honest Steve, you really don’t give a damn about those Black of Hispanic Americans, do you? I know you are trying to be non-partisan when you say that, but we both know the truth. It’s the White American’s you care about, isn’t it?
Guilty as charged! Does that invalidate my arguments? Do Black and Hispanic Americans who don't support the war and only care about what happens to members of their race make them "racists"?
Sounds like a third party needs to form. A viable one. Easy? No. Is it any more difficult though, than the formation of other political parties in the past? I don’t think so.
Good point! The problem is their are no viable third parties on the horizon and in the past all third or fourth political parties have bit the dust within a short amount of time. I contend that the reason we have a "2 political party system" is because it makes things a hell of a lot easier to control. But thats just my opinion.
I agree. It is laughably bad. But were we don’t agree is where it comes from. I don’t think that the mainstream media is being giving their daily memo from a jewish star chamber made up of rabbis, the ADL, and Satan himself.
I agree and I disagree with your summation. Your premise is that mainstream media is "laughably bad", which I agree with, and you say that that it doesn't get its "daily memo from a jewish star chamber made up of rabbis, the ADL, and Satan himself"...which I also agree with, but are you denying that mainstream American news media isn't predominately jewish owned? I don't even think Jews disagree with that.
As an example, let me point to an old conversation we had, about who killed Kennedy. Just last Saturday, PBS had a program about it, and they featured a tag line from it “The President couldn’t control his sexual appetites. It could have been embarrassing for the country. Did our military decide to do something about it?”
Are you trying to say that a military coup occured in Nov of 63 because "The President couldn’t control his sexual appetites". Maybe it's just me but that seems a little far fetched!
So there you go. I don’t bring that up to prove I was right, but merely to say that there are plenty of just as viable, in fact, even easier to believe explanations for things other than “The jews did it”. In Kennedy’s assassination, as well as control of the media”
Ok...we agree to disagree.
Lord no! I was on the newspaper in college a dozen years ago, and I was naïve enough to actually believe that the news should be unbiased. Obviously today’s journalists didn’t write for the same newspaper I did. How is it jews’ fault, again?
I don't know, Glex. Maybe if you told me just what it was you weren't allowed to print in your college newspaper we could compare and contrast it to what isn't allowed to be printed in mainstream American news media.
con't tomorrow
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 6th, 2004, 10:23 AM
if you two are going to have a civil discussion that is wonderful, but you will please notice that the thread title was carefully crafted to try to avoid such an outcome. perhaps you could relocate your civility to another thread while we return to the question at hand: why are jews so nerdy?
I dont want to give Jews any more fake heroes, not like hey need anymore, considering the examples of the rebellious Eleazar and Judah Maccabee, who so hated Greco-Roman classic culture and civil order that they were willing to kill innocent peope-- the original "middle eastern terrorists" if you please-- anyhow, can't we see the "Revenge of the Nerds" movies in this light? Ugly "Louis" an obvious Jew, revolting against the Nordic types? A pathetic and transparent appeal to that "underdog" crapola we have been programmed with by Hollywood since childhood.
I cant remember a more stark and one-sided Jewish depiction of noble Jew vs evil Aryan, other than the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the hook nose Jew dukes it out with the German soldier in the bell tower. All we have had to look at growing up as Americans are these ridiculous caricatures of the hooknosed noble Jew defending all that is good (Amerikwa and Mccivilization) against all that is bad-- Christianity, Germans, social elitism, blah blah fuckin blah.
Bottom line: Jews are nerds.
Steve B
April 6th, 2004, 11:30 PM
[QUOTE=Glex]It hardly surprises me that someone would try to pin the blame on their enemy. I think anyone would do that. The fact that he was believed comes from him being a head of state from an ally of ours. I just don’t see anything sinister. Or jewish.
It just seemed rather odd to me. Neytanyau barley able to contain his glee over 3,000 Americans being killed. I think he was secretly overjoyed knowing full well what the reaction of Americans would be to the Arabs. Some "ally".
It’s funny. Maybe because the story was “buried” but I have only seen that dancing Israeli” story in the anti-semitic press. If you had seen a story in the “phillo-semitic” press, with no outside corroboration, what would you think?.
I would hardly classify Fox News as "anti-semitic press" and FBI officals did corroborate the story by commenting that the "dancing Israelis" were under surveillance, were "detained" for a period of time and then released to Israeli authorities. I think the greater question would be why only Fox News picked the story up? No other network would touch it!
Of course not. The “arabs” had just killed 3000 Americans, it was thought. Of course they won’t get the same treatment.
Well thats the official story. Of course even before 911 the Arabs have never gotten even-handed treatment by main stream American news media. Which brings us back to the question...who owns many...not all but many newspapers, book publishing, tv news networks, etc?
Read about Lowell Paxson, the founder of Pax TV. Was he a billionaire?
Self-made man from what I understand. Your point is well taken.
Two things here. Money, and being called names. Ever hear of the movie “Pi”? Made in 1998, it was the first movie given away for free on the Internet. It was the first shareware movie. If you liked it, buy it. I bought it. How much does it cost to produce a movie in black and white, with two cameras, using home computer video editing equipment, and distributed on the Internet? Less than 30 million?
Another well made point! Would you be willing to assist White Nationalists in this kind of undertaking? You seem to be well aquainted with the procedures and history of shareware movie making. I know it's kind of a lot to ask, what with the way we have treated you and knowing how our opinions differ so much but it would be quite an interesting challange for you. You might even write a book about it someday. "I showed White Nationalists how to make a million in shareware movies" By Glex Von Staufenberg.
As for you being called names, well, your mother told you how to deal with that. “Sticks and Stones….” I seem to recall that the ADL called Mel Gibson all sorts of things. He’s doing Ok, last I heard. Maybe insults aren’t that bad?
“Sticks and Stones…. break my bones".....thats why I need a .45? (j/k)
Hell yes it bothers me! But I don’t see a shadowy jewish interest behind them. I see a pendulum swinging the other way, from white male dominant to white male submissive. The pendulum swings back and forth. Conservative to liberal and back again. I don’t like it, and I’ll be the first to admit I let it happen as much as anyone.
Again I agree and then disagree. Yes, "The pendulum swings back and forth" as history has shown us. But from "white male dominant to white male submissive"? Comon Glex, when have White males ever been "submissive" other than at the point of a gun? Again we agree to disagree on who or what backs Liberal as well as neo-con agendas.
It does indeed bother me. Again, I don’t see a jewish influence. I see a liberal guilt “We oppressed them so now we must elevate them” attitude.
I'm reaching you, Glex! You're "bothered" by it but you don't as yet see who is behind the liberal guilt that gets laid on us. Yer halfway there, dude!
I see the same things. Explain to me how jews are responsible for it.
%50 Glex! I'll have you wearing jack boots in no time! heh heh!
Fine, WN is not losing members. I’ve asked this of several people, and no one has given me an answer, so I’ll ask you. How do you know WN is gaining members? If I was a neutral third party observer that just wanted to tally your group, how would I do so? What source would I look to? Would I look at VNN page hits via Alexa? Dropping. White Revolution membership? Stagnating.
Well I don't know anything about WR so I can't tell you if they are stagnating or not. That may just be wishfull thinking on your part. Let me put it back to you...how do you know WR membership is stagnating?
As to VNN's Alexra ratings....they are still pretty impressive considering Alex gets kicked off his server every month by pressure from you know who. How do you think 60 minutes ratings would do if it had to change networks and be offline half the time?
If by IT you mean “Itz”, then of course you do want it to happen. I have no doubt you are as bloodthirsty as plenty of others I’ve seen here. Wasn’t it just in this thread, about two pages ago, you were cheering Hoax on for talking about breaking someone on the rack? Sounds like that deep part in your heart that wishes it won’t happen is being pretty effectively overridden.
Ok Glex...you got me. I'm a blood thirsty killer who likes to pull the wings off flys and push little old ladies down flights of stairs. I also like human body parts cooked in a light Fava bean sauce washed down with Chianti!
I do see where you are coming from. Dissatisfied with the way the country is going, you search for answers. I do too. How do we get ourselves out of this mess? I don’t know.
The fact you're on a WN site looking for answers or debating for logical answers shows promise!
But I’ve yet to have anyone here explain how “kill all jews” is the answer.
Agreed! Show me one post of mine out of 500 plus where I said..."kill all jews"!
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 7th, 2004, 09:44 AM
nerdy jew likudniks, who are reputed to all be forelocked havin smelly shas party ostjuden types, have both taken of Israel AND the US presidency. No mention of the smell in this story, but discussion of similarity between Bush and the Butcher of Sabra and Chatilla, Sharon, on "middleast policy."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A45652-2003Feb8¬Found=true
Yesterday's toll from the manipulation of our foreign policy by Jews: 12 dead Marines-- or maybe more.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 12th, 2004, 02:28 PM
did anybody see that made for tv movie years ago, where a nerdy kid-- 100% likely was a Jew-- makes friends with a big bully to be "My Bodyguard?" They were both nerds of a fashion, one a big Brooklyn White oaf/grit/hayseed/whatever, the other a four-eyes coke bottle glassed Jew with a wimpy and weak and cowardly body but oh so good at math and so forth. You get the idea. The Jew recruits the big Gentile oaf to be his bodyguard and that cures the Gentile self esteem problem. Hell they may have even had the Jew-gentile oaf combo fighting off schwarzers together. "My Bodyguard" I believe that was the title. That is the Jew idea of Israel/Zion/Jewry and the oaffish powerful but ignorant Gentile: they are best off in the service of smarty pants but weak Jewry.
Truth is, Gentiles esp Whites have all the smarts we need, and we should punch out the weak smarty pants Jew one last time, and rule the world by whatever means necessary which will mean peace and wellbeing for all mankind even non-Whites once theharmony and order of national boundaries and White living space has been restored.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 12th, 2004, 04:04 PM
Who gave you the key to Stereotype Central? Jews don't have to be thugs anymore to make a living and neither do most whites. Or they shouldn't. They hire it out.
There were many Jewish boxers back in the day and good ones too: Barney Ross, Al "Bummy" Davis, Benny Leonard, Maxie Rosenbloom, Ruby Goldstein, Charlie Gellman, etc... Jews and whites don't have get their brains beaten in to make a living anymore---that's left to the blacks and hispanics today.
Jewish gangsters of old were just as tough and ruthless as the white ones were if not more so, and they provided their own muscle. They weren't all Meyer Lanskys. Most jews and whites aren't thick-necked goons anymore. Don't have to be. We've developed much more sophisticated ways to shake people down. Everyone, even jews, were tougher then, AE; they had to be. Now, everyone sits on their asses and types.
Jews were just as able to break necks as whites when the circumstances and times called for it. Your generalizations don't wash.
As for the "powerful oaf" tag, I said it before: that's the way WN's characterize most of white society when it suits them. Useful idiots and retarded giants whom the jews lead around like dogs. The canny bastards! Then on the other hand, we're the apple of nature's eye who built the world and are the sole source of civilization and intelligence. How can we be so stupid when it comes to the jews, over and over again? Maybe we are not worth saving, from your perspective?
Ah, but there will be the new elite to come out of the Fall or Rahowa or Whatever to lead an elect few whites to glory after all the "antis" and "lemmings" and non-whites are either snuffed or banished.
People like you, AE?
1) I'm good at using stereotypes to my own advantage and that's as much expertise as I need. LOL Stereotypes applied to ethnic groups are some of the most useful "types" that can be applied from day to day in life in America. I wont go into the validity of "types" as a personality concept but I seem to recall from psych 101 that was my folkish friend Carl Jung at work. Oy vey, antisemite he's.
2) As for your feeble attempt to name a few tough jews, like the Murder Inc crowd, Lansky Siegel etc. those criminals are exceptions who prove the rule that jews rule by fraud rather than force. In the old days when Jews were kept in their places, of course a few ambitious Jews broke out of the old model of weakness. Weakness and nerdiness actually was fine-tuned act the tribe evolved to prevent Euros from offing them once and for all in the old days of regular expulsions. When the king's troops were getting a wee bit too enthusiastic about extirpating the Jews from the community, the Jew would wring his hands and Oh so poisecyooted. HAS A JEW NOT EYES? DOES HE NOT WEEP? Oy vey. And then people would lay off. This inability of Euros to protect themselves from apparently humble persons is well examined in the book "CAMP OF THE SAINTS" which in spite of being erroneous in regarding Jews as Westerners, was good in that it explored the theme vis a vis non-White refugee immigrants to Europe.
3) krav maga: what a joke. syncretism with a goofy name. one of many IDF related promotional fictions.
4) keystone: dont put words in my mouth and expect me to waste time responding. White pussy liberals and Jews are guilty of the massive crime of unleashing the black crime wave on White america that was held in check prior to 1964/5. Your type is the one who has "snuffed" not mine. My type were loyalists and defenders of ORDER. If now we resort to revolutionary dialectics, that is a result of the absolute corruption and decadence of the west.
that being said, yes, Kali will come and sweep the rotten husks away. The process is happening today. WN are far better equipped for life in the ugly world we live in the weak-minded Jew quislings and spewers forth of equalitarianism.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 12th, 2004, 05:46 PM
AE,
I admit you're handy with the big brush. ....... I never bought into the folk soul theory. Surprisingly jewish-like.
.......
Whether it's been physical or mental toughness, they've hung in there. Just like most other races. Haven't lost one yet!
.....
Kali indeed! I don't imagine you have an altruistic bone in your body.
That's why I rejected White Nationalism. It's a false front for megalomaniacs. I'll stay with the peasants.
Cheers
1. thanks
2. jews as a collective are pretty damn tough. like ants huh? individually they are weak. collectively they are strong. this is the basic point of NS and its relevance for White Americans today. White Americans are strong individually, but weak collectively. Using "stereotypes" effectively helps make isolated individuals stronger. A stronger White collective is our aim.
3. I used to be a randroid. I can see the jewish influence still lurks about me in the obvious lack of altruism. maybe I should cynically try and work on that.
4. QUOTH CAPTAIN AHAB: "BANISH YE NOW, ALL FEAR!
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 13th, 2004, 01:38 PM
On a side note I would not touch Crap maga with a ten foot pole. And as for the most people are shit yes they are. What did you expect when no moral total greedy people have the power. A beacon of light? The majority take their cue from the minority in power.
A-men! Let your bright light shine!
Jenab
April 20th, 2004, 04:31 PM
why are you jews so nerdy? think of seinfeld for a minute. oy,vey, vat a fucking nerd. the big nose, the whiny voice, the effeminate gestures. now think about that ugly ehud barak. the schnozz on the zhid! now ariel sharon: what a "fat bastard!" now let's consider some other fine jude specimens. how about: Elliot Gould. Always plays a kike? Why? Cuz he looks like a typical american whiny liberal kike! How about Richard Perle. That pornographer Goldstein. Almost as fat as Sharon. How about that fat hog of a pornstar the "hedgehog." Almost as fat as sharon. How about the pervert Woody Allen. Porking his stepchild. Oy, vat a little unter-mensch!
how about those disgusting black-clothes wearing forelock zhids on 42 d st in NYC one jew-jeweler avenue? Oy I walked down that road and the stink! Ostjudenscum!
Need I continue?
Nerd isn't the Jewish aspect at its fundamental level. It's more like SNAKE. Twist the SNAKE basis in one way, you get a comic nerd.
Twist it in another way, you get an assassin who likes to crawl into homes at night to murder the families of Germans or Arabs.
Twist it in yet another way, you get an Alan Greenspan or a Paul Warburg, who likes to pretend to be doing a good job in controlling the money supply, while in reality looting the nation for his own benefit and that of his fellow Yids.
Yet another kind of twist will get you a Jewish teacher, doctor, lawyer or other professional who wants to operate on your mind, on your body, or on your life in some way...assuredly in your best interest, of course, heh heh.
But when you get right down to it, the essence of Jew is SNAKE.
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 4th, 2005, 03:02 PM
when I think of a Jewish nerd, the first actor that comes to mind is Elliot Gould. He played a wimpy, nerdy Jew in American History X and many other films as well. He is a good actor although unfairly typecast as a whiny, wimpy Jew. Have a look see:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001285/
Say! He even played one recently in Oceans Twelve, "Rueben Tishkoff." I had almost forgotten.
Here is a Gould appearance you forum Jews should check out: "A Yiddish world remembered." Ah yesterday. LOL
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0341115/
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 4th, 2005, 03:03 PM
most famous Jewish nerd of the 20th century? Einstein you say? Nah-- here he is: WOODY ALLEN!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000095/
A stepchild fucking pervert at that! A wimpy, neurotic obsessive in real life and on film!
David
April 5th, 2005, 08:26 PM
Nerd isn't the Jewish aspect at its fundamental level. It's more like SNAKE. Twist the SNAKE basis in one way, you get a comic nerd.
Twist it in another way, you get an assassin who likes to crawl into homes at night to murder the families of Germans or Arabs.
Twist it in yet another way, you get an Alan Greenspan or a Paul Warburg, who likes to pretend to be doing a good job in controlling the money supply, while in reality looting the nation for his own benefit and that of his fellow Yids.
Yet another kind of twist will get you a Jewish teacher, doctor, lawyer or other professional who wants to operate on your mind, on your body, or on your life in some way...assuredly in your best interest, of course, heh heh.
But when you get right down to it, the essence of Jew is SNAKE.
That was the most unintelligent thing I've ever read, and it doesn't take a snake to figure that out.
David
April 5th, 2005, 08:29 PM
most famous Jewish nerd of the 20th century? Einstein you say? Nah-- here he is: WOODY ALLEN!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000095/
A stepchild fucking pervert at that! A wimpy, neurotic obsessive in real life and on film!
What color was Jeffrey Dahmer?..... and who cares? (other than AE)
Antiochus Epiphanes
April 5th, 2005, 10:02 PM
What color was Jeffrey Dahmer?..... and who cares? (other than AE)
Dahmer, always Dahmer! Hey Jew, have you ever studied the incidence of mental illness among Jews vs the general population? Guess what Jew?
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a lil something I found and want to share jew:
Physician Claims Jews are Schizo Carriers
Subtitle: "Is Mental Illness the Jewish Disease?"
It is NOT posted on the Internet. It's from Psychiatric News, published by the American Psychiatric Association. Date of publication: Oct. 25, 1972. Go to your local library.
Evidence that Jews are carriers of schizophrenia is disclosed in a paper prepared for the American Journal of Psychiatry by Dr. Arnold A. Hutschnecker, the New York psychiatrist who once treated President Nixon.
In a study entitled "Mental Illness: The Jewish Disease" Dr. Hutschnecker said that although all Jews are not mentally ill, mental illness is highly contagious and Jews are the principal sources of infection.
Dr. Hutschnecker stated that every Jew is born with the seeds of schizophrenia and it is this fact that accounts for the world-wide persecution of Jews.
"The world would be more compassionate toward the Jews if it was generally realized that Jews are not responsible for their condition." Dr. Hutschnecker said. "Schizophrenia is the fact that creates in Jews a compulsive desire for persecution."
Dr. Hutschnecker pointed out that mental illness peculiar to Jews is manifested by their inability to differentiate between right and wrong. He said that, although Jewish canonical law recognizes the virtues of patience, humility and integrity, Jews are aggressive, vindictive and dishonest.
"While Jews attack non-Jewish Americans for racism, Israel is the most racist country in the world," Dr. Hutschnecker said.
Jews, according to Dr. Hutschnecker, display their mental illness through their paranoia. He explained that the paranoiac not only imagines that he is being persecuted but deliberately creates situations which will make persecution a reality.
Dr. Hutschnecker said that all a person need do to see Jewish paranoia in action is to ride on the New York subway. Nine times out of ten, he said, the one who pushes you out of the way will be a Jew.
"The Jew hopes you will retaliate in kind and when you do he can tell himself you are anti-Semitic."
During World War II, Dr. Hutschnecker said, Jewish leaders in England and the United States knew about the terrible massacre of the Jews by the Nazis. But, he stated, when State Department officials wanted to speak out against the massacre, they were silenced by organized Jewry. Organized Jewry, he said, wanted the massacre to continue in order to arouse the world's sympathy.
Dr. Hutschnecker likened the Jewish need to be persecuted to the kind of insanity where the afflicted person mutilates himself. He said that those who mutilate themselves do so because they want sympathy for themselves. But, he added, such persons reveal their insanity by disfiguring themselves in such a way as to arouse revulsion rather than sympathy.
Dr. Hutschnecker noted that the incidence of mental illness has increased in the United States in direct proportion to the increase in the Jewish population.
"The great Jewish migration to the United States began at the end of the nineteenth century," Dr. Hutschnecker said. "In 1900 there were 1,058,135 Jews in the United States; in 1970 there were 5,868,555; an increase of 454.8%. In 1900 there were 62,112 persons confined in public mental hospitals in the United States; in 1970 there were 339,027, in increase of 445.7%. In the same period the U.S. population rose from 76,212,368 to 203,211,926, an increase of 166.6%. Prior to the influx of Jews from Europe the United States was a mentally healthy nation. But this is no longer true."
Dr. Hutschnecker substantiated his claim that the United States was no longer a mentally healthy nation by quoting Dr. David Rosenthal, chief of the laboratory of psychology at the National Institute of Mental Health, who recently estimated that more than 60,000,000 people in the United States suffer from some form of "schizophrenic spectrum disorder." Noting that Dr. Rosenthal is Jewish, Dr. Hutschnecker said that Jews seem to take a perverse pride in the spread of mental illness.
Dr. Hutschnecker said that the word "schizophrenia" was given to mental disease by dr. Eugen Blueler, a Swiss psychiatrist, in 1911. Prior to that time it had been known as "dementia praecox," the name used by its discoverer, Dr. Emil Kraepelin. Later, according to Dr. Hutschnecker, the same disease was given the name "neurosis" by Dr. Sigmund Freud.
"The symptoms of schizophrenia were recognized almost simultaneously by Bleuler, Kraepelin and Freud at a time when Jews were moving into the affluent middle class," Dr. Hutschnecker said. "Previously they had been ignored as a social and racial entity by the physicians of that era. They became clinically important when they began to intermingle with non-Jews."
Dr. Hutschnecker said that research by Dr. Jacques S. Gottlieb of Wayne State University indicates that schizophrenia is caused by deformity in the alpha-two-globulin protein, which in schizophrenics is corkscrew-shaped. The deformed protein is apparently caused by a virus which, Dr. Hutschnecker believes, Jews transmit to non-Jews with whom they come in contact. He said that because those descended from Western European peoples have not built up an immunity to the virus they are particularly vulnerable to the disease.
"There is no doubt in my mind," Dr. Hutschnecker said, "that Jews have infected the American people with schizophrenia. Jews are carriers of the disease and it will reach epidemic proportions unless science develops a vaccine to counteract it."
FranzJoseph
April 5th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Or read Exiles from History:
http://www.faem.com/david/
Left for us by the good folks at the most sorely-missed WN site, FAEM. (RIP)
From the chapter "Power":
If we ask why it is that Jews spend a large part of their time acting out their fear of being Holocausted we must conclude that Jews inwardly feel that they deserve to be Holocausted. No one has come up to them and announced to them that they ought to be Holocausted; they have imagined that this is what is going on -- consciously or subconsciously -- in the Gentile's mind. But in reality it is going on in the Jewish mind. The Jews are projecting their fantasies, their fears, onto the rest of us.
Sean Martin
April 5th, 2005, 11:53 PM
Not all Jews are nerdy, but if they all looked like Bill Goldberg it would be difficult for them to con everyone on the persecution angle.
http://www.wrestlingkingdom.com/goldberg/bill_goldberg.jpg
http://guide.supereva.com/wrestling/myimg/131559_1.jpg
Does this look like a guy that was posicuted by those evil Nazis? Oy veh.
The most comical quote he has ever made was during an interview where he stated “yeah I am Jewish” out of the blue. Like the name Goldberg and the hooknose wasn’t a dead give away.
MixedChild
April 9th, 2005, 12:12 AM
Eh, I've met some psycho militant Israelites who would break a window with their head if there was an Arab on the other side. Some of the Jews in entertainment are nerdy, sure, but plenty of white folks are too. Just look at all those nerdy skinny white emo/indie musicians who pour their heart out and stab themselves in the heart, ala Elliot Smith. And Bill Gates and Stephen King are two famous white nerds.
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