Greeks:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema151.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema152.jpg
Romanians:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema66.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema67.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema65.gif
Iranians:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema132.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema133.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema185.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema186.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema187.gif
Celts:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema208.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema209.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema209.gif
Others:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema230.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema89.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema91.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema90.gif

Iranians:
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Scythian_Priest_Warriors.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Achaemenid_Soldier.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Achaemenid_Battleship.jpg
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Achaemenid_Cavalary.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Achaemenid_Soldier1.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/images/Parthian_Shot.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Sasanian_Caliban__Standard-Bearer.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Sasanian_calibanarius.gif
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/images/Sasanian_Helmet.gif

Maybe some of you have more pictures! Thx! ;)

one of the problems I have with the idea of considering "Iranians" White is a little thing called Thermopylae.

There is more to race than plots on a graph.

one of the problems I have with the idea of considering "Iranians" White is a little thing called Thermopylae.

There is more to race than plots on a graph.

Please again? :confused:

Please again? :confused:

THERMOPYLAE. GATES OF FIRE. LEONIDAS VS DARIUS. "THE WEST" VS THE ORIENT. entiendes? capitu? wierstrayenzie? entendezvous? get it?

THERMOPYLAE. GATES OF FIRE. LEONIDAS VS DARIUS. "THE WEST" VS THE ORIENT. entiendes? capitu? wierstrayenzie? entendezvous? get it?

What has this to do with today?

What has this to do with today?

Good question. What did the valiant stand of 300 spartiates doomed to death in the face of the multitudes of the Persian lead Asiatic horde, but which heroes were committed to a sovereign Greece have to do with our struggle? If you dont see any inspiration there, you've stretched your panaryanism concept way too far.

Greeks:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema151.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema152.jpg
Romanians:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema66.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema67.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema65.gif
Iranians:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema132.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema133.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema185.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema186.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema187.gif
Celts:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema208.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema209.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema209.gif
Others:
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema230.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema89.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema91.gif
http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema90.gif



I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A MUCH BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THE SOCALLED ARYAN WARRIORS WHICH YOU SPEAK OF.

one of the problems I have with the idea of considering "Iranians" White is a little thing called Thermopylae.

There is more to race than plots on a graph.

Does the Battle of Hastings cause you to have a "problem" with considering the Normans White or Trafalgar the French White?

diablo

Good question. What did the valiant stand of 300 spartiates doomed to death in the face of the multitudes of the Persian lead Asiatic horde, but which heroes were committed to a sovereign Greece have to do with our struggle? If you dont see any inspiration there, you've stretched your panaryanism concept way too far.

Even the Nordicists concede the Iranians were White then. Throughout all of our military history most over 90% of the opponents Whites have fought in wars were other Whites.
Thats probably THE BIGGEST reason we are not a majority in this world, we have always been too damm good at killing each other. By reason of our superior social and economic systems throughout history, this should have allowed us to multiply to the extent that we would dominate the earths population. Wars between each other stopped this from occurring

diablo

Does the Battle of Hastings cause you to have a "problem" with considering the Normans White or Trafalgar the French White?

diablo

It bothers him because the Iranians are not white.

BTW shapur, these cavalry are not Iranian, they are Late Roman/Byzantine Cataphractii (Heavy Lancer Cavalry)

http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema132.gif

Here is what Persian (Sassanid) Heavy Cavalry looks like...

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1023_face.jpg

Persian Cavalry have more ornate features within their armor and sometimes even wear silk. Although Persian Cavalry tended to be inferior to Roman/Byzantine Cataphractii, they did a good job protecting to northern borders from Hunnic and Scythian raiders.

It bothers him because the Iranians are not white.

BTW shapur, these cavalry are not Iranian, they are Late Roman/Byzantine Cataphractii (Heavy Lancer Cavalry)

http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema132.gif

It does not bother me in the least. True Iranians are and always will be White

diablo

Maybe in America they can pass as White. Depending on the person. But they're not European and they're not Greek. Nor have they ever been. They're not Westerners.

I actually esteem Persians and have some interest in their distinct practice of Islam (Shia). I would have to locate modern day Armenians as closer to White than modern day Persians however.

Again, this shows that the definition of race or ethnicity has a social context. It's not there isnt a biological factor, it's that this is not the only factor.

Here is what Persian (Sassanid) Heavy Cavalry looks like...

http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1023_face.jpg

Persian Cavalry have more ornate features within their armor and sometimes even wear silk. Although Persian Cavalry tended to be inferior to Roman/Byzantine Cataphractii, they did a good job protecting to northern borders from Hunnic and Scythian raiders.

Scythians are Iranians. Cataphractii or you mean Cataphracts?
Cataphracts is from Iranians. ;)
Yes but all this images are images.

Maybe in America they can pass as White. Depending on the person. But they're not European and they're not Greek. Nor have they ever been. They're not Westerners.

I actually esteem Persians and have some interest in their distinct practice of Islam (Shia). I would have to locate modern day Armenians as closer to White than modern day Persians however.

Again, this shows that the definition of race or ethnicity has a social context. It's not there isnt a biological factor, it's that this is not the only factor.

Race is only defined by blood nothing else. If you speak about social context Iranians have one of the oldest Aryan cultures. Racial the most Greeks/Armenians are nearer to Iranians as to other nations.
The Greeks/Armanians/Iranians are an Indo-European tribe the old Indo-Aryans. Don`t confuse this with Indo-Aryans(Indians).

People like you make only BLABLABLA! And what Shia you mean?
Only 35% of Iranians are Shia. But 90% of Iranian will become Zoroastrians.

It bothers him because the Iranians are not white.

BTW shapur, these cavalry are not Iranian, they are Late Roman/Byzantine Cataphractii (Heavy Lancer Cavalry)

http://www.legionen.de/archiv/thema132.gif

Those cavalry are Iranians! Do you realy think the Romans were the only with weapons? Romans and Iranians had worked together.
40.000 Iranians were under Romanian commando to defence Romania from the Mongolian storm.

Here more pictures of Iranian Aryans! ;)
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Parthian_Cavalry.jpg

Shapour I the King of Aryans:
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Shapour_I_statue.gif

Other:
http://home.btconnect.com/CAIS/Images2/Parthian__Sasanian_Catafrati.gif

Scythians are Iranians. Cataphractii or you mean Cataphracts?
Cataphracts is from Iranians. ;)
Yes but all this images are images.

Idiot Cataphractii is a Latin term for heavy cavalry, how could it be Persian? Cataphracts is the english translation for Cataphractii

Those cavalry are Iranians! Do you realy think the Romans were the only with weapons? Romans and Iranians had worked together.
40.000 Iranians were under Romanian commando to defence Romania from the Mongolian storm.

They're Germanic warriors hired by Romans and dressed in western style armor you stupid fuck. Persians did not have that helmet style. Also, Romans and Iranians never worked together. Sassanid armies were constantly raiding the Eastern Roman Empire (and constantly being pushed back). Furthermore, Rome never used mercenaries from Persia because they did not trust the shady dealings of your mud people. On the contrary, they despised Iranians and instead hired Germans because of the availability, strength, and honor of their warriors.

P.S. Why are you bragging about the Sassanid Empire? Shit-skin Iranians were beat by a few thousand Arabs using simple wicker armor 637 AD. If anything, Persia fielded some of the worst armies in history. Greeks, Iraqis, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Huns, and British killed thousands upon thousands of Iranians with relative ease in various wars with Persia throughout history.

Idiot Cataphractii is a Latin term for heavy cavalry, how could it be Persian? Cataphracts is the english translation for Cataphractii



They're Germanic warriors hired by Romans and dressed in western style armor you stupid fuck. Persians did not have that helmet style. Also, Romans and Iranians never worked together. Sassanid armies were constantly raiding the Eastern Roman Empire (and constantly being pushed back). Furthermore, Rome never used mercenaries from Persia because they did not trust the shady dealings of your mud people. On the contrary, they despised Iranians and instead hired Germans because of the availability, strength, and honor of their warriors.

P.S. Why are you bragging about the Sassanid Empire? Shit-skin Iranians were beat by a few thousand Arabs using simple wicker armor 637 AD. If anything, Persia fielded some of the worst armies in history. Greeks, Iraqis, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Huns, and British killed thousands upon thousands of Iranians with relative ease in various wars with Persia throughout history.

Du Napf! Die Iraner, Griechen, Römer haben gemeinsam Panzerreiter entwickelt. Natürlich gab es unterschiedliche Einflüsse auf die verschiedenen Armeen der arischen Rasse, doch zeigen alle die gleichen Grundzüge.
Die Iranische Armee war nun mal eine der stärksten.
Komm mir nicht mit Araber. Ein sassanidischer General wurde zum Islam bekeehrt und dadurch konnten erst die Araber den Süden von Iranzámin einnehmen(heute Khueztan, Süd Irak).
Doch wir Arier haben den Arabern oft tief in den Arsch getretten.
Übrigens wenn du das hier nicht lesen kannst solltest du deine Fresse einfach halten. Du nervst mit deiner Propaganda die du hier verbreitest.
Hailsa Aryanzámin!

Idiot Cataphractii is a Latin term for heavy cavalry, how could it be Persian? Cataphracts is the english translation for Cataphractii



They're Germanic warriors hired by Romans and dressed in western style armor you stupid fuck. Persians did not have that helmet style. Also, Romans and Iranians never worked together. Sassanid armies were constantly raiding the Eastern Roman Empire (and constantly being pushed back). Furthermore, Rome never used mercenaries from Persia because they did not trust the shady dealings of your mud people. On the contrary, they despised Iranians and instead hired Germans because of the availability, strength, and honor of their warriors.

P.S. Why are you bragging about the Sassanid Empire? Shit-skin Iranians were beat by a few thousand Arabs using simple wicker armor 637 AD. If anything, Persia fielded some of the worst armies in history. Greeks, Iraqis, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Huns, and British killed thousands upon thousands of Iranians with relative ease in various wars with Persia throughout history.


The Sarmatians and Parthians"boths are Iranians" have developed the Cataphractii. Belive it or not this is so! :D

The Sarmatians and Parthians"boths are Iranians" have developed the Cataphractii. Belive it or not this is so! :DRoman sources such as Pliny repeatedly describe ancient North Iranian peoples such as the Alans and Sarmatians as "…flaxen (blonde) haired blue eyed nomads…" The Ossetians of today, descendants of ancient Northern Iranians, predominantly resemble northern Iranians and Europeans and speak an archaic Iranian language (like the Avesta of the Zoroastrians). Blondism is very common among these descendants of ancient North Iranians in cities such as Beslan and Vladikafkaz.


http://www.hungarianquarterly.com/no144/p113.html

Under the Emperor Marcus Aurelius (161-180) the Roman Army campaigned for eight years in Pannonia Barbarica (i.e., in the central and northern parts of the Carpathian Basin, north and east of the Roman limes along the Danube) against the Quadi, a German tribe, and Sarmatians and Alans, Iranian speaking barbarians who came from east of the Carpathians, from the south Russian steppe and from the Lower Danube Plains near the Black Sea. After hard but victorious battles, 5,500 Sarmatian/Alanian heavy cavalry (called cataphractarii, i.e. clothed fully in scale armour) consisting of prisoners taken in war were posted to Britain in 175. Marcus Aurelius sent these warriors to Britannia not only to keep them out of trouble in Pannonia Barbarica but also to deploy them beyond Hadrian's Wall.2 (http://www.hungarianquarterly.com/no144/p113.html#f2)These Sarmatians are known to have been stationed in permanent camps outside the Roman forts at Ribchester in Lancashire, Chester, and elsewhere. The Sarmatian enclaves - especially the one at Ribchester, a Lancashire site known in ancient times as Bremetennacum veteranorum - survived until the end of the Roman era in the late 4th century A.D.

The tombstone fragments of a Sarmatian/Alanian standard bearer were found at Chester (Deva) in 1890. This is unique evidence of the presence of heavily armoured Sarmatian cavalry from the earliest third http://www.hungarianquarterly.com/no144/p114.gif
Fig. 1. King Harald's standard bearer at the Battle of Hastings (1066). Detail from the Bayeux Tapestry.century A.D. The two fragments of the tombstone (now in the Grosvenor Museum in Chester) show a horseman wearing a cloak and turning to the right. He holds aloft, with both hands, a dragon standard of the Sarmatian/Alanian type, and his conical helmet, with a vertical metal frame, is of the same pattern. A sword hangs at his right. Both man and horse are shown clad in tightly fitting scale armour. This attire for man and mount was characteristic of Sarmatian/Alanian heavy cavalry.

The original dragon standard shown on the tombstone had a metal head and a cloth body designed like a windsock so that the animal appeared to come alive in the wind. It has been suggested that these standards may have indicated the position of the given Iranian troops and their command posts during the battle and also the wind direction for the Sarmatian/Alanian archers. The best description of this characteristic Iranian tactic and symbolism is in the Tactica of Arrian of Bithynia (2nd century A.D.) who defeated the Alanian invasion of 134. He must have had exact knowledge of how the Iranian peoples conducted themselves in war.3 (http://www.hungarianquarterly.com/no144/p113.html#f3)We know that the military symbol of the kings of the Parthians (as for instance of Mithridates I. in 139 B.C.) was a dragon standard made of textile or leather.4 (http://www.hungarianquarterly.com/no144/p113.html#f4)There is no indication, however of the use of similar standards in Achaemenid times. The closed society of Sarmatian cataphractarii in Britain was able to maintain its ethnic features during the Late Roman period and afterwards. One reason is that their troops, called cuneus Sarmatorum, equitum Sarmatorum Bremetennacensium Gordianorum were not part of any military organization in active service. Consequently, after the withdrawal of the Roman army, they continued to live on their accustomed sites (Chester, Ribchester, etc.). They were still called Sarmatians after 250 years. A semihistoric Arthur lived about A.D. 500. He was very probably a descendant of those Alan horsemen, a battle leader of the Romanized Celts and Britons against the Anglo-Saxons, who invaded Britain after the Roman army had withdrawn. Arthur and his military leaders could therefore manage to train the natives as armoured horseman after Iranian patterns against the attacks of Angles and Saxons fighting on feet until their victory at Badon Hill.

http://camelot.celtic-twilight.com/infopedia/a/alans.htm

The Alans
According to Dr. Malcor, 'the Alans came into Gaul in two waves. The first arrived in 406CE and split in two. Part settled in Brittany, part settled in Spain. The second group arrived in 414CE and settled in Southern Gaul. The Alans of Brittany held the center of the line at Chalons against Attila, not for him, and used the feigned retreat tactic to win the battle for their side, stopping Attila's advance. The Alans, as a whole, did have extensive contact with the Huns; but the ones who fought for Attila were not the Alans of Gaul.'

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/Clan_Hall_Sarmatian_Article_1.pdf

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/Clan_Hall_Sarmatian_Article_2.pdf (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7egallgaedhil/Clan_Hall_Sarmatian_Article_2.pdf)

Even the Nordicists concede the Iranians were White then. Throughout all of our military history most over 90% of the opponents Whites have fought in wars were other Whites.
Thats probably THE BIGGEST reason we are not a majority in this world, we have always been too damm good at killing each other. By reason of our superior social and economic systems throughout history, this should have allowed us to multiply to the extent that we would dominate the earths population. Wars between each other stopped this from occurring

diablo

Unfortunately your analysis is correct.We have been the victims of our own in-born martial spirit and the uncanny ability of the jew to profit by the stirring up of war.

Does the Battle of Hastings cause you to have a "problem" with considering the Normans White or Trafalgar the French White?

diablo

If you think that Battle of Hastings or Trafalgar were as momentous for Europeans as Thermopylae, I am truly amazed. Has your contrived "panaryanism" so clouded your vision to important cultural differences?

Maybe in America they can pass as White. Depending on the person. But they're not European and they're not Greek. Nor have they ever been. They're not Westerners.

I actually esteem Persians and have some interest in their distinct practice of Islam (Shia). I would have to locate modern day Armenians as closer to White than modern day Persians however.

Again, this shows that the definition of race or ethnicity has a social context. It's not there isnt a biological factor, it's that this is not the only factor.

But we must ask ourselves what we mean by the term "western" or indeed "European".What are you using as a cultural basis in time or space as a means of measuring what is Aryan?
Afterall it could be argued that non Aryan races that have settled in Europe have to a certain extent adopted "western" "culture"[I use the term usely] and so we have to question the value of this.