There are a couple of polls on this page to vote on.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4595384/

This is more for special interest, but lets hear comments on it too.

Notice the top 10 "ROCK Songs"?

How the hell did 'Outkast" get on that list? Thats not rock thats rap. Then again...all mainstream music can pretty much fit into the same category - CRAP!

fuck the polls. If I had to do this excluding WN bands, I know I would make Led Zepplin number one. Loved them as a teen, didnt listen to them for years, and recently I've been reacquainting myself with the box set. Gotta love em.

I know your thinking, how can an old guy like me listen to rock. Well, there are only so many times you can hear Sinatra or Dean Martin sing the same song. Ive been into rock and roll since the early 60's.

Old White Goats Favorite Bands. (Bands that can play great)


CCR
The Animals
Allman Brothers
Big Brother & the Holding Co

Notice the top 10 "ROCK Songs"?

How the hell did 'Outkast" get on that list? Thats not rock thats rap. Then again...all mainstream music can pretty much fit into the same category - CRAP!
Nah that aint even rap. Fat boys, now thats rap. LOL> Outkast is "Urban Jiggaboo Jungle Muzak®" or UJJM for short.

Whats more shocking is "Born to Run" by Springstein got on there. Bruthce (lol) tries to stuff too many words into one song. Other artists can do a whole album with the number of words he uses in ONE damn song.

The best Rock band ever was Creedence Clearwater Revival and always will be.

They had to be Semitically Correct and add Half-kike Marley and Sly and Family Stone to the list. Shit, everyone knows Half-Kike is reggae. Who do they they're foolin? The dredlock nigs must be pretty pissed off at that one.

I can't believe they actually put Bob Marley on that list. He is completely insignificant. Usually, they put Jimi Hendrix on these lists as the undeserving token Nigger.

There are hundreds of people from the 60's and 70's (the time period they covered) more significant and influential than Bob Marley.

The greastest rock band of the 80's is Guns N' Roses!

The best Rock band ever was Creedence Clearwater Revival and always will be.
You know I completely forgot about them when I made my list.

I would say that they are #1 too.

Old White Goats Favorite Bands. (Bands that can play great)

CCR
The Animals
Allman Brothers
Big Brother & the Holding Co


Damn, I was betting you were a Zager & Evans fan.
Allman Brothers is good. I've never heard of those other bands though.

I've always liked Nirvana, myself.

1- Dad's Dead ---Chopping down the family tree (album)
2- Vanilla Ninja
3- The 4 Skins
4- Zillertaler Türkenjäger

I know the list is very biased and not atuned to actual talent or great contributions. I wanted to hear some outrage. See, this is the shit they do to desenitized people to non kosher music. Best Metal Band at some awards show, would go to somebody with a jew or nigger in it, like Dave Matthews Band!

Yeah, fucking outkast? How is that rock? They're not even a real band, let alone a multihit wonder....now i'm getting pissed.

Where is Van Halen, Rush, Black Sabbath, Boston, Kansas, Yes, Genesis, Dream Theatre,..... oh fuck, I could go on and on....

bob marley....rock?

Jeesus!!!

all mainstream best-of lists are full of shit. fuck, they are probably still calling jethro tull a metal band for gods sake.

In no particular order is my top 10 R&R bands:

1 Black Sabbath
2 Led Zeppelin
3 Cheap Trick (in the 70's. Everything after that sucked.)
4 Yard Birds (Jimmy Page era)
5 Joy Division
6 Sex Pistols
7 Rolling Stones (of course)
8 Stooges
9 Pixies (don't give me any shit! They were great.)
10 MOTORHEAD!!!

Good list.

4. Yardbirds: Have you ever heard the version of Train Kept A'Rollin with Jimmy
Page and Jeff Beck? .....HOLY SHIT!!!!!....

5. Joy Division: Perfect. Most influential band of the late 70's early 80's.

9. Pixies: Black Francis aka Frank Black is the greatest songwriter of our
generation. Check out the Frank Black and the Catholics stuff.



I think Blood Axis, Fire + Ice, Changes, Current 93, In Gowan Ring Are AMAZING bands. But they really aren't rock bands.

10. Motorhead: New stuff blows, but you can't fuck with Ace of Spades era Motorhead. Hawkwind ,Lemmes first band is pretty cool, too.

In no order for this week:

Joy Division

Sex Pistols

Bauhaus

Motorhead

Germs

Led Zeppelin

Pink Floyd

Wall of Voodoo

Bowie(Late 70's)

Ozzy (Sabbath and 1st two LP's)

In no order for this week:

Joy Division

Sex Pistols

Bauhaus

Motorhead

Germs

Led Zeppelin

Pink Floyd

Wall of Voodoo

Bowie(Late 70's)

Ozzy (Sabbath and 1st two LP's)

and Social Distortion, Dammit.

Hey Spandau, you forgot Mungo Jerry!

In the summertime when the living's easy
In the summertime doo doo doo dee dee
la la la
Lookin' like a nigger all the time...

yeah, they did look like jigs!

Limp Bizkit is a joke of a metal band. Fred Durst is also a joke. Hell anything on MTV isnt really worthy to be called music.

Good list.

4. Yardbirds: Have you ever heard the version of Train Kept A'Rollin with Jimmy
Page and Jeff Beck? .....HOLY SHIT!!!!!....

The yardbirds version was good but you gotta here the original by Johnny Burnette from 1956, way better than all the later covers.

reggae isnt rock, but I liked reggae plenty the same time I was gobbling up as much led zep and sabbath etc as I could.

there are abundant parallels between reggae and skrewdriver/ ian stuart. particularly I'm thinking of ISD's patriotic songs 1 and 2. to begin with there is the whole folk music business-- themes of ethnic nationalism set to strumming guitar etc. then I have read Oi evolved from ska which is island music. Who knows if that is true. There are certainly some similar rhythms.

I listened to some peter tosh the other day and enjoyed it. I declined to buy it in favor of some bluegrass music, but it was worth a few minutes.

Motorhead-- love that song "civil war" I have a live album performed somewhere in Deutschland.

GnR-- Lies best album. One in a Million. ISD covered it, but the Axl version is better by a longshot. What happened to those guys? the creativity really petered out.

CCR-- I always think of that scene in Apocalypse now where they come around the bend in the river and Suzy Q is in the air, and the playboy bunnies fly in and then there's a riot. Unforgettable.

reggae isnt rock, but I liked reggae plenty the same time I was gobbling up as much led zep and sabbath etc as I could.

there are abundant parallels between reggae and skrewdriver/ ian stuart. particularly I'm thinking of ISD's patriotic songs 1 and 2. to begin with there is the whole folk music business-- themes of ethnic nationalism set to strumming guitar etc. then I have read Oi evolved from ska which is island music. Who knows if that is true. There are certainly some similar rhythms.

I listened to some peter tosh the other day and enjoyed it. I declined to buy it in favor of some bluegrass music, but it was worth a few minutes.

Motorhead-- love that song "civil war" I have a live album performed somewhere in Deutschland.

GnR-- Lies best album. One in a Million. ISD covered it, but the Axl version is better by a longshot. What happened to those guys? the creativity really petered out.

CCR-- I always think of that scene in Apocalypse now where they come around the bend in the river and Suzy Q is in the air, and the playboy bunnies fly in and then there's a riot. Unforgettable.

Actually Oi has nothing to do with Ska. Oi is just sub-punk. I think you are thinking of something else as there are no Ska influence in Oi.

The yardbirds version was good but you gotta here the original by Johnny Burnette from 1956, way better than all the later covers.

The Burnette Brothers version is THE version. Fuckin' amazing. Motorhead and Aerosmith also covered it. The Motorhead version is GOD!

Are you a Link Wray fan, OWG?
LOL. I sure am.

'Cant believe you know him!

Those are all great renditions but THE version is the little known Air Supply version. OH MY GAWD!!! Two distorted reverbed out fast as fuck duelling guitars, the unrelenting jack hammering drums and thundering bass kicks your ass across the street as it repeatedly pummels your head against a brick wall!
What ever happened to them? They rocked my world...

Jaysus. I missed that version. Remember that tour they did w/ Slayer and Extreme Noise Terror? Christ!

The yardbirds version was good but you gotta here the original by Johnny Burnette from 1956, way better than all the later covers.

The Yardbirds version I'm referring to is called Stroll On (my mistake), I don't know where to find a copy of it. Spengler's description of the legendary Air Supply version actually fits this one too.

Here are a few of mine..

1. Black Sabbath (Dio era was particularly outstanding too)
2. Iron Maiden
3. Helloween (cheesy as heel, but damn fun to listen to)
4. Sex Pistols
5. Stiff Little Fingers (Mainly the Inflammable Material album)
6. Blaze Bailey
7. Faith No More (hated The Real Thing album, but what followed was quite brilliant)

I dont venture much outside of those, im pretty ignorant when it comes to embracing new artists.

......
I dont venture much outside of those, im pretty ignorant when it comes to embracing new artists.
Have you heard of a band called the "Churning Groins"?

Alas no.. but i'm sure they are spectacular.

Alas no.. but i'm sure they are spectacular.
What's so spectacular about a churning groin?

Here are a few of mine..

1. Black Sabbath (Dio era was particularly outstanding too)
2. Iron Maiden
3. Helloween (cheesy as heel, but damn fun to listen to)
4. Sex Pistols
5. Stiff Little Fingers (Mainly the Inflammable Material album)
6. Blaze Bailey
7. Faith No More (hated The Real Thing album, but what followed was quite brilliant)

I dont venture much outside of those, im pretty ignorant when it comes to embracing new artists.

Inflammable Material by SLF is brilliant! It was one of my microwave rotation plays when I was a teenager. "Inflammable material planted in my head! It's a Suspect Device that's left Two Thousand dead!" (About the Troubles in Ulster. Shit, the whole album is.)

This is probably a little bit before your time (most of yuz) but at least check out the cut Personality Crisis from The 'Dolls if you haven't heard it before. That'd be from around '76. These guys were sort of a glam/punk fusion (back in the REAL punk days, not the 32d tepid reincarnation that's around now) and they were one of the inspirations for Malcolm McLaren to put the Sex Pistols together after he got back to London and had seen the 'Dolls in NYC.

http://www.nyrock.com/imgs98/nydolls4.jpg

(That's David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter on the far right)

This is probably a little bit before your time
Not mine ;)

(most of yuz) but at least check out the cut Personality Crisis from The 'Dolls if you haven't heard it before. That'd be from around '76. These guys were sort of a glam/punk fusion (back in the REAL punk days, not the 32d tepid reincarnation that's around now) and they were one of the inspirations for Malcolm McLaren to put the Sex Pistols together after he got back to London and had seen the 'Dolls in NYC.

(That's David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter on the far right)
Originally named, "The New York Dolls" :)

This is probably a little bit before your time (most of yuz) but at least check out the cut Personality Crisis from The 'Dolls if you haven't heard it before. That'd be from around '76. These guys were sort of a glam/punk fusion (back in the REAL punk days, not the 32d tepid reincarnation that's around now) and they were one of the inspirations for Malcolm McLaren to put the Sex Pistols together after he got back to London and had seen the 'Dolls in NYC.

http://www.nyrock.com/imgs98/nydolls4.jpg

(That's David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter on the far right)

Is that Johnny Thunders in your avatar?

Is that Johnny Thunders in your avatar?

Nah, it's Nick Lowe from around '79. Check the Pure Pop for Power People album cover.

Is Johnny Thunders still playing? Probably doin solo gigs huh... Haven't even heard his name in years.

Thunders died from a heroin overdose about twelve years ago.

Is Nick Lowe the guy who sang "Cruel to be Kind"? I love that song.

Thunders died from a heroin overdose about twelve years ago.

Is Nick Lowe the guy who sang "Cruel to be Kind"? I love that song.

Whoa, too bad about Johnny Thunders, I don't remember hearing about that. Thanks for the info. I guess that could be considered the ultimate solo gig, huh.... dying.....

Right, Nick Lowe was with the Brinsley Schwartz band for a while mid '70s then took off to do solo projects. He did write and perform Cruel to be Kind and had a respectable hit with it around '79-'80. He also did a fair amount of studio production work for Elvis Costello in the late '70s. Lowe wrote (What's so funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding while he was with Brinsley Schwartz which Elvis Costello later recorded (on the Armed Forces album) and turned into a pretty big hit. Lowe acted as producer on Armed Forces and it was generally considered EC's breakout record, containing some of his most familiar songs.

..........These guys were sort of a glam/punk fusion (back in the REAL punk days, not the 32d tepid reincarnation that's around now) and they were one of the inspirations for Malcolm McLaren to put the Sex Pistols together after he got back to London and had seen the 'Dolls in NYC.

http://www.nyrock.com/imgs98/nydolls4.jpg

(That's David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter on the far right)
Punk? How do you figure that in? I always thought of the Ramones or maybe even Patti Smith as punk. The Dolls are difficult to categorize. Kinda like a Brian Eno creation.
I would say they fit in with early Roxy Music, somehow. Not exactly culture pop like Blondie, but somewhere out there between rock and glamour/glitter sort of like KISS, but more glamourous.
What’s Johansson doing these days? Are they all alive? I doubt that they can survive on royalties from only 1 hit in 1 album

Punk? How do you figure that in? I always thought of the Ramones or maybe even Patti Smith as punk. The Dolls are difficult to categorize. Kinda like a Brian Eno creation.
I would say they fit in with early Roxy Music, somehow. Not exactly culture pop like Blondie, but somewhere out there between rock and glamour/glitter sort of like KISS, but more glamourous.
OK.


What’s Johansson doing these days? Are they all alive? I doubt that they can survive on royalties from only 1 hit in 1 album
Click the link below

http://www.zapmeta.com

When the page loads, type in "David Johansen" "New York Dolls" then click the "Search" button

What's so spectacular about a churning groin?

Well it all depends on what floats your boat I guess.. Im not particularly parital to a churning groin, but I didnt want to offend anyone on here who might have a fetish about it.

And its nice to see people discuss real music for a change.

1) Led Zeppelin

2) Rolling Stones

3) Lynyrd Skynyrd

4) Cream

5) Foghat

6) Humble Pie

7) The Who

8) Jimi Hendrix Experience (not Band of Gypsies)

9) Allman Bros.

10) Van Halen

1) Led Zeppelin

2) Rolling Stones

3) Lynyrd Skynyrd

4) Cream

5) Foghat

6) Humble Pie

7) The Who

8) Jimi Hendrix Experience (not Band of Gypsies)

9) Allman Bros.

10) Van Halen

To be honest, Jimmy Hendrix has never done anything for me. Im not taking anything away from the guy but the few live performances ive seen from him don't really hit the mark.

To be honest, Jimmy Hendrix has never done anything for me. Im not taking anything away from the guy but the few live performances ive seen from him don't really hit the mark.He sucked live, just like The Stones - I saw 'em down here in the 70's at the Orange Bowl. Lauu-zay!!

You don't get off on hearing "Hey Joe", "Foxy Lady", "Purple Haze", "Stone Free", etc. on the radio when you're driving down the road? Hell, I crrrrank the shit!

btw - He's still an impressive guy to have on your "concert resume". My big one's when I saw Zep do "Stairway" live for the first time in the States, in the Hollywood Sportatorium down here in Sep. '71. The place held 10,000 people, but only 7,000 showed up. Can ya' believe that???

Right, Nick Lowe was with the Brinsley Schwartz band for a while mid '70s then took off to do solo projects. He did write and perform Cruel to be Kind and had a respectable hit with it around '79-'80. He also did a fair amount of studio production work for Elvis Costello in the late '70s. Lowe wrote (What's so funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding while he was with Brinsley Schwartz which Elvis Costello later recorded (on the Armed Forces album) and turned into a pretty big hit. Lowe acted as producer on Armed Forces and it was generally considered EC's breakout record, containing some of his most familiar songs.

Thanks for the info. Is Lowe's back catalogue worth checking out?

Elvis Costello is a phenomenal lyricist. This Year's Model was his finest moment, IMO.

Didn't Costello call Ray Charles a talentless nigger or something?

Thanks for the info. Is Lowe's back catalogue worth checking out?

Elvis Costello is a phenomenal lyricist. This Year's Model was his finest moment, IMO.

Didn't Costello call Ray Charles a talentless nigger or something?

I like a lot of the Nick Lowe's material. I hesitate to recommend someone go out and BUY his stuff because my musical tastes are somewhat, ahem, eclectic as all the cool guys say. If you have a p2p (filesharing) program downloaded and you don't mind taking a chance on getting served with a lawsuit, try downloading a few of his songs and check 'em out. There's a Nick Lowe discography here:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Btt9ks39ba3zg

and here:

http://members.tripod.com/nicklowedisc/

His forté is melodic pop stuff, he's sort of a poor man's Paul McCartney but with an edge.

I agree about Elvis Costello. I've been a fan of his since the first time I heard him on SNL in '76-'77, something like that. As his career gained momentum though it became fashionable in some rock 'n' roll circles to dismiss him for whatever reason. Sometimes the excuse was his voice wasn't professional enough. I don't think any objective person can abide by that, all you have to do is listen to Almost Blue or Watching the Detectives or Everyday I Write the Book to put that claim to rest. I suspect the real reason he created such animosity amongst some r 'n' r critics is because he came out of England/Ireland during a time when there was a lot of American media attention and promotion invested in American acts such as the Eagles and Boston and Aerosmith. They were pushing the '70s to be an "American" rock era but along comes this anti-rock 'n' roll image type guy out of the UK who is very difficult to categorize but writes and performs some great original stuff. Some critics got themselves in a snit over that because they hadn't anointed Costello to be the next big thing, the public just bought his records and attended his shows without being told to do so by the "experts." Imagine.

As an aside, I saw a show on CMT recently where Elvis Costello did a duet with George Jones on Jones' It Was a Good Year for the Roses, and Jones was visibly impressed with Costello's singing ability. That's a high compliment from one of the finest voices ever in country music (real country music, not what passes for country music now). Jones even made it a point to act faux-stunned and amazed when Costello took his turn singing. Meanwhile Ricky Skaggs was hosting the show, Jones and Costello were guests, and Jones treated Skaggs like he wasn't even there. He was very kindly disposed toward Costello however and Costello was properly humble in return.

Ha, I never heard about that Ray Charles quote attributed to Elvis Costello, but I do hope he said that.

Anyway, check out the Nick Lowe discography at the links above and download a few songs off the net if feel like tempting fate. You can also go to amazon.com and type in his name, they have a fair amount of material available, even some older stuff. Sometimes they even provide short audio clips just to give an idea what the songs sound like. If you can get a decent price on any used 'Rockpile' stuff I'd be very surprised if you didn't consider it a worthwhile purchase. His newer material, after '90 or so I'm not real familiar with but the guy is a good songwriter with a proven track record and I'd be pretty confident picking up most anything he's done since then.





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Punk? How do you figure that in? I always thought of the Ramones or maybe even Patti Smith as punk. The Dolls are difficult to categorize. Kinda like a Brian Eno creation.
I would say they fit in with early Roxy Music, somehow. Not exactly culture pop like Blondie, but somewhere out there between rock and glamour/glitter sort of like KISS, but more glamourous.
What’s Johansson doing these days? Are they all alive? I doubt that they can survive on royalties from only 1 hit in 1 album

What? The Sex Pistols totally took after the Dolls. Especially Steve Jones's Guitar. Ever here "Chatterbox"? Christ, that's a PuNk tune! I love the New York Dolls to this day. Johnny Thunders is of course dead and Jerry Nolan is also gone (Heroin like Thunders). A tidbit: Sylvan Sylvan is a Morrocan Jew. Rock On.

Christ i've never understood the attraction of the New York Dolls, Thunders with the Heartbreakers was OK though.

1) Led Zeppelin
2) Ramones
3) Stooges
4) Doors
5) Lynyrd Skynyrd
6) Kinks
7) Rolling Stones
8) Joy Division-New Order
9) The Who
10) Cock Sparrer

I would have a hard time rating Lynyrd Skynyrd (!!!) ahead of, for instance, Joe Jackson or Deep Purple (w/Ian Gillan, pretend they never even recorded Smoke on the Water). Blackmore had quite an attitude but he could play. By the way, speaking of the Stooges, if you've ever heard EMF's version of Search & Destroy they did a helluva job on it, iggy would have to admit that himself.


P.S. Rod Stewart, Ronnie Lane, Ron Wood and the (Small)/Faces put out some great stuff in the early '70s as well. Had Me a Real Good Time comes to mind....


Edit: added P.S.

I like a lot of the Nick Lowe's material. I hesitate to recommend someone go out and BUY his stuff because my musical tastes are somewhat, ahem, eclectic as all the cool guys say. If you have a p2p (filesharing) program downloaded and you don't mind taking a chance on getting served with a lawsuit, try downloading a few of his songs and check 'em out. There's a Nick Lowe discography here:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Btt9ks39ba3zg

and here:

http://members.tripod.com/nicklowedisc/

His forté is melodic pop stuff, he's sort of a poor man's Paul McCartney but with an edge.

Sounds like his stuff is right up my alley. Thanks.

I agree about Elvis Costello. I've been a fan of his since the first time I heard him on SNL in '76-'77, something like that.

I'm baffled as to why Costello stopped playing ten seconds into 'Less than Zero' on SNL and announced he wasn't going to play the song. I know he altered the lyrics to mean Lee Harvey Oswald instead of Mosley, but why was this thought by Costello to be too controversial for American audiences to handle? It wasn't being sung in Texas, nor was it in praise of Lee Harvey.

As his career gained momentum though it became fashionable in some rock 'n' roll circles to dismiss him for whatever reason. Sometimes the excuse was his voice wasn't professional enough. I don't think any objective person can abide by that, all you have to do is listen to Almost Blue or Watching the Detectives or Everyday I Write the Book to put that claim to rest. I suspect the real reason he created such animosity amongst some r 'n' r critics is because he came out of England/Ireland during a time when there was a lot of American media attention and promotion invested in American acts such as the Eagles and Boston and Aerosmith. They were pushing the '70s to be an "American" rock era but along comes this anti-rock 'n' roll image type guy out of the UK who is very difficult to categorize but writes and performs some great original stuff. Some critics got themselves in a snit over that because they hadn't anointed Costello to be the next big thing, the public just bought his records and attended his shows without being told to do so by the "experts." Imagine.

He wasn't being dismissed everywhere though, because Rolling Stone awarded his first two albums five stars, the highest acclaim an album can receive from that magazine.

Wasn't that hackneyed AOR piffle - Boston, Eagles, et al - beginning to lose popularity around the time Costello's first album was released?

As an aside, I saw a show on CMT recently where Elvis Costello did a duet with George Jones on Jones' It Was a Good Year for the Roses, and Jones was visibly impressed with Costello's singing ability. That's a high compliment from one of the finest voices ever in country music (real country music, not what passes for country music now). Jones even made it a point to act faux-stunned and amazed when Costello took his turn singing. Meanwhile Ricky Skaggs was hosting the show, Jones and Costello were guests, and Jones treated Skaggs like he wasn't even there. He was very kindly disposed toward Costello however and Costello was properly humble in return.

When did Costello go country? I only purchased his first four albums, because I've heard the rest are lackluster at best.

Ha, I never heard about that Ray Charles quote attributed to Elvis Costello, but I do hope he said that.

Indeed he did. I just looked it up in Krista Reese's biography of Costello. He later recanted and said he was drunk at the time.

I'm baffled as to why Costello stopped playing ten seconds into 'Less than Zero' on SNL and announced he wasn't going to play the song. I know he altered the lyrics to mean Lee Harvey Oswald instead of Mosley, but why was this thought by Costello to be too controversial for American audiences to handle? It wasn't being sung in Texas, nor was it in praise of Lee Harvey.
Yeah but didn't he then do Radio, Radio instead? I've heard he was specifically told NOT to do that song by network execs because of the anti-corporate media message. Thumbing his nose at them might have had more to do with it than feeling apprehensive about doing Less than Zero.


He wasn't being dismissed everywhere though, because Rolling Stone awarded his first two albums five stars, the highest acclaim an album can receive from that magazine.
Oh that's right, you bet. He WAS widely appreciated by quite a few critics in addition to the public. But there were reviewers (mainly local newspaper "media columnist" types) who seemed to take an immediate and sometimes curiously mean spirited dislike to the guy. I usually perceived that as more personal resentment than musical criticism.


Wasn't that hackneyed AOR piffle - Boston, Eagles, et al - beginning to lose popularity around the time Costello's first album was released?
You could be right about that as well. I was only speculating on what might have been the reason he was treated with such animosity by some reviewers. It always seemed to be more of a pouty sneer on a personal level than it did valid crit of his material and performances.


When did Costello go country? I only purchased his first four albums, because I've heard the rest are lackluster at best.
I'm not sure he ever actually, quote, went country, end quote, I just think he's doing the standard exploring of other styles that a lot of performers do as they get older. You were aware I'm sure that Costello collaborated a few years ago with Burt Bacharach on a "standards" type album. I think they even wrote some songs together. I agree his older records were more consistent, but there were still a few good cuts on his later albums.


Indeed he did. I just looked it up in Krista Reese's biography of Costello. He later recanted and said he was drunk at the time.
Ha, that's great. The "drunk" excuse never means anything. As they say, The wine goes in and the Truth comes out. I only wish he had stuck to his guns and said "Sure I meant it. And since we're on the subject of blind negro entertainers, Stevie Wonder sucks too....."

I remember when Costello was on SNL. I was 12 and had never seen anything like it. This guy came on stage with short hair and glasses. In 1977 if you were a musician, you were supposed to have regulation long hair and floppy clothes. My dad said he looked like Buddy Holly. Anyway, He stopped the first tune and went into "Radio Radio". I learned later that Radio was a direct middle finger to NBC for telling him it was off limits. I have a memory of him dropping his guitar at the end and walking off. Did that actually happen? Anyway, me and my Dad were stunned and later agreed that it was one of the coolest things we'd seen. I read later that when He went into Radio, Lorne Micheals (Jew) yelled for the control room to shut down transmission. Thankfully they ignored him. He was banned from broadcast on the NBC network for ten years for it.

The nigger-baiting incident also got him into hot water of course. He was drunk in, I believe Cincinnati, in a Holiday Inn one night talking shit to a bunch of hippies like Steven Stills. They were going on about the wonders of soul music and Ray Charles and Costello said he's a blind stupid nigger. Ha! I hear he's a good boy now though.

Christ i've never understood the attraction of the New York Dolls, Thunders with the Heartbreakers was OK though.

1) Led Zeppelin
2) Ramones
3) Stooges
4) Doors
5) Lynyrd Skynyrd
6) Kinks
7) Rolling Stones
8) Joy Division-New Order
9) The Who
10) Cock Sparrer

Always liked the Heartbreakers (The real Heartbreakers, not that shitty joke Tom Petty). I remember in LA back in the 80's they had an announcement on the radio that Tom Petty's Farrari (or something) had been stolen. "If you see this car please call the police" I remember thinking "Yeah right. If I see that car I'm giving the thieves a thumbs up!" They had the same announcement about Rod Stewart's car and I was like "If I see it I'll help them dump it into Topanga Canyon" :)

Cock Sparrer, wow. There is a name I haven't heard in years. Great band!

I remember when Costello was on SNL. I was 12 and had never seen anything like it. This guy came on stage with short hair and glasses. In 1977 if you were a musician, you were supposed to have regulation long hair and floppy clothes. My dad said he looked like Buddy Holly.
Yeah, his look was the first thing that made me stop and take a listen. I was at my gf's house at the time and we were making guacamole out of some really hard, green avocados, and it ended up tasting bitter as hell. You couldn't even eat it. I'll never forget that. Anyway we took a break from doing that and caught Costello's act. We both saw him walk out on stage and said "Whoa, we gotta see this." I was a fan from then on.


Anyway, He stopped the first tune and went into "Radio Radio". I learned later that Radio was a direct middle finger to NBC for telling him it was off limits. I have a memory of him dropping his guitar at the end and walking off. Did that actually happen?
That's pretty much the way I heard it. The part about dropping his Jazzmaster on stage sounds vaguely familiar but I can't remember fer sher.


Anyway, me and my Dad were stunned and later agreed that it was one of the coolest things we'd seen. I read later that when He went into Radio, Lorne Micheals (Jew) yelled for the control room to shut down transmission. Thankfully they ignored him. He was banned from broadcast on the NBC network for ten years for it.
Yup, that's what I heard too. Michaels freaked out along with some other network guys and they swore Costello would never be back on NBC.


The nigger-baiting incident also got him into hot water of course. He was drunk in, I believe Cincinnati, in a Holiday Inn one night talking shit to a bunch of hippies like Steven Stills. They were going on about the wonders of soul music and Ray Charles and Costello said he's a blind stupid nigger. Ha! I hear he's a good boy now though.
That's funny, I hadn't heard about that incident before Carl Rylander brought it up. Yeah, Costello's getting to be an older guy now so he probably wants to cool it on making influential enemies. When you're 22 and have a record or two at the top of the charts, in the UK anyway, you don't care much which suit and tie US TV execs you piss off.

Those were fun days to be young, dude.

"Those were fun days to be young, dude."

Yeah I hafta agree. I hate to be nostalgic as I like to live in the now. But maybe it was youth where you feel invincible. Also I think we may be looking through rose tinted glasses, as there was also the dreaded Disco thing dominating every waking moment it seemed. Wasn't it funny when Disco just collapsed overnight in like '80? Thank God for Punk. It made a breathing space for awhile. It allowed people to shoot off and make up their own things. People didn't have to be Disco, Stadium Rock or James Taylor. It informs music to this very day w/ every conceivable genre' available at your fingertips. People complain (Rightfully so) about the Music today. But there is a freedom now unknown pre '77. DIY baby!

Always liked the Heartbreakers (The real Heartbreakers, not that shitty joke Tom Petty)....
I liked Breakdown. Benmont Tench played on Would I Lie to You from the Eurythmics and that's a rockin' tune, not that that excuses the majority of Tom Petty material.

I liked Breakdown. Benmont Tench played on Would I Lie to You from the Eurythmics and that's a rockin' tune, not that that excuses the majority of Tom Petty material.

Ok. I agree w/ you about Breakdown and say.....American Girl. He was actually alright in the late 70's. Their music captured the feeling of the late 70's very well.

Ok. I agree w/ you about Breakdown and say.....American Girl. He was actually alright in the late 70's. Their music captured the feeling of the late 70's very well.
Yup, American Girl is a good song too. I've gotta be careful about saying "I like this band" or "I don't like this band" because when I think about it objectively there are a helluva lot of bands who have put out at least one good song even if I don't like 99% of their stuff. For example I always liked Peter Case and the Plimsouls if for nothing more than A Million Miles Away. Not that much of their other stuff ever did much for me though.

Yup, American Girl is a good song too. I've gotta be careful about saying "I like this band" or "I don't like this band" because when I think about it objectively there are a helluva lot of bands who have put out at least one good song even if I don't like 99% of their stuff. For example I always liked Peter Case and the Plimsouls if for nothing more than A Million Miles Away. Not that much of their other stuff ever did much for me though.

Yer right. I have a tendency to do that myself. That Plimsouls tune is a good one. Now that is quality pop muzak!

Ray Charles is a blind nigger! ;)

Racist. :mad:

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Q: Why can't Ray Charles read ?


A: Because he's black


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Now this is really startin' to piss me totally the fuck off! Out of all the posts on this thread, and all the bands named, I did not see one - one mind you! - post nominating that all-time great rock duo - "Donny and Marie." WTF's wrong with you people??? Have you no taste?

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Q: Why can't Ray Charles read ?


A: Because he's black


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ZOG music at its best! :eek:


Ever hear of Limp Bizkit?

Break Stuff
It's just one of those days
Where ya don't wanna wake up
Everything is fucked up, everybody sucks up.
You don't really know why
But you wanna justify
rippin' someone's head off
No human contact
And if you interact
your life is on contract
Your best bet is to stay away mother fucker!
It's just one of those days!
It's all about the he said she said bullshit
I think you better quit lettin' shit slip
Or you'll be leavin with a fat lip
It's all about the he said she said bullshit
I think you better quit talkin' that shit
It's just one of those days
Feelin' like a freight train
First one to complain
Leaves with a blood stain
Damn right I'm a maniac
You better watch your back
Cuz I'm fuckin' up your program
And if you're stuck up
You just lucked up
Next in line to get fucked up
Your best bet is to stay away motherfucker!
It's just one of those days!
It's all about the he said she said bullshit.
I think you better quit lettin shit slip
Or you'll be leavin with a fat lip
It's all about the he said she said bullshit
I think you better quit talkin that shit, punk
So come and get it I feel like shit
My suggestion is to keep your distance
Cuz right now I'm dangerous
We've all felt like shit And been treated like shit
All those motherfuckers, they want to step up
I hope ya know I pack a chainsaw
I'll skin your ass raw
And if my day keeps going this way
I just might break something tonight
Give me something to break
I pack a chainsaw
I'll skin your ass raw
And if my day keeps going this way
I just might break your fuckin' face tonite
Give me something to break
Just give me something to break
How 'bout your fuckin' face?
I hope you know I pack a chainsaw, what?
I hope you know I pack a chainsaw,
a mutherfuckin' chainsaw, what?
Come and get it
It's all about the he said she said bullshit.
I think you better quit lettin shit slip
Or you'll be leavin with a fat lip
It's all about the he said she said bullshit
I think you better quit talkin that shit
So come and get it

The lyrics are very pc and it has a catchy tune as well!

Surprising that actually gave me a laugh. :D

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cruz/05.14.03/gifs/ray-charles-0320-gate.jpg

Q: Why can't Ray Charles read ?


A: Because he's black


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Actually i'd remove Lynyrd Skynyrd from my top ten and insert the Stranglers, can't believe i overlooked them, definately one of the greatest ever British bands.
Their bassist claimed to have renounced his youthful fascism during '77 but was still writing lyrics like 'european female we'll be together for a thousend years' in the eighties.

Actually i'd remove Lynyrd Skynyrd from my top ten and insert the Stranglers, can't believe i overlooked them, definately one of the greatest ever British bands.
Their bassist claimed to have renounced his youthful fascism during '77 but was still writing lyrics like 'european female we'll be together for a thousend years' in the eighties.
I'd skin Skynard and strangle the Stranglers, then replace both of them with Jethro Tull who is the world's best non-skin flute player

Actually i'd remove Lynyrd Skynyrd from my top ten and insert the Stranglers, can't believe i overlooked them, definately one of the greatest ever British bands.
Their bassist claimed to have renounced his youthful fascism during '77 but was still writing lyrics like 'european female we'll be together for a thousend years' in the eighties.You removed who from what??? How dare you not revere the greatest American band of all time? It's all over for you now, buster. You must be a commie or something, eh "comrade EVZ?" Just for that, I'm gonna out ya' right now: "Troll alert! Troll alert! Attention K-Mart shoppers - Troll Alert!"

(Heh! the utter audacity!) ;)

You removed who from what??? How dare you not revere the greatest American band of all time? It's all over for you now, buster. You must be a commie or something, eh "comrade EVZ?" Just for that, I'm gonna out ya' right now: "Troll alert! Troll alert! Attention K-Mart shoppers - Troll Alert!"

(Heh! the utter audacity!) ;)

Sorry HoaxThis. I'd have to put The Stranglers before Lynyrd Skinyard anyday. Hell, I'd put The Pointer Sisters before Lynyrd Skinhead.

Ain't I a stinker? :)

Lies was GNR second major release. After their fourth major release, one of the Guitarists, Izzy Stradlin', left to become a solo artist. Izzy Stradlin was the chief music and lyrics writer. I've read that he wrote all the music and all the lyrics to their hit song "You Could Be Mine" by himself.

After Izzy Stradlin' left, GNR released a fifth major album that was all covers. Afterwards, Slash and Axl started fighting. Axl wanted to re-invent the GNR sound. Slash wanted to keep playing Rock N' Roll. They split up.

Axl spent seven years in seclusion only to emerge periodicaly to sue former band members.

Slash became the most sought after guitarist in America and recorded tracks for over 30 major albums between 1991 and present.

Duff McKagan also started his own new band.

A few years ago, Axl re-emerged with a new line up and played several concerts around the world using old GNR songs and new songs. He has yet to release a new album (if he does, the rest of the original members should try to block him from legally using the name!)

I'm am please to tell you that former GNR members Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt have formed the band "Velvet Revolver" with the former singer of Stone Temple Pilots. They are on tour right now and have recorded three songs that played in recent movies. They have not released a major album yet, however their website says they've recorded over 40 songs so far (including 10 old GNR songs). Their first album is exspected to include "Mr. Brownstone" and "It's So Easy."

http://www.velvetrevolver.net/home/home.asp




GnR-- Lies best album. One in a Million. ISD covered it, but the Axl version is better by a longshot. What happened to those guys? the creativity really petered out.

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I liked X out of LA

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I liked X out of LA

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I really like yer taste in muzak Nick. I saw X a few times back in the early 80's and was never disapointed(sp?). Hung out w/ John Doe one night and he was really cool. Talked about the white American working class and it's music. Billy Zoom!

I really like yer taste in muzak Nick. I saw X a few times back in the early 80's and was never disapointed(sp?). Hung out w/ John Doe one night and he was really cool. Talked about the white American working class and it's music. Billy Zoom!
Bet that was cool. He's a good bass player and I'm glad to hear he has his head on straight. I would have liked to have met him back then. He's gonna be touring in June with Grant Lee Phillips but it looks like they're only playing back east.

June 2004
2 - Louisville, KY - Uncle Pleasant's
3 - Nashville, TN - Mercy Lounge
4 - Cleveland, OH - Grog Shop
5 - Pittsburgh, PA - Club Cafe
7 - Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's
8 - New York, NY - Knitting Factory
9 - Brooklyn, NY - North Six
10 - Boston, MA - Paradise
12 - Philadelphia, PA - North Star
13 - Alexandria, VA - Birchmere
14 - Detroit, MI - Magic Bag
15 - Indianapolis, IN - Patio Lounge
17 - Chicago, IL - Park West

http://www.livedaily.com/news/6405.html

I remember when Costello was on SNL. I was 12 and had never seen anything like it. This guy came on stage with short hair and glasses. In 1977 if you were a musician, you were supposed to have regulation long hair and floppy clothes. My dad said he looked like Buddy Holly. Anyway, He stopped the first tune and went into "Radio Radio". I learned later that Radio was a direct middle finger to NBC for telling him it was off limits. I have a memory of him dropping his guitar at the end and walking off. Did that actually happen? Anyway, me and my Dad were stunned and later agreed that it was one of the coolest things we'd seen. I read later that when He went into Radio, Lorne Micheals (Jew) yelled for the control room to shut down transmission. Thankfully they ignored him. He was banned from broadcast on the NBC network for ten years for it.

Ah! I had it backwards. It was Radio Radio and not the Dallas version of Less than Zero that caused the furor. Makes sense.

My list:

1. The Smiths

2. The Replacements

3. Wire

4. Velvet Underground

5. Costello

6. The Doors

7. Belle & Sebastian

8. Soft Boys/Robyn Hitchcock

9. Magazine

10. Subway Sect

Yeah but didn't he then do Radio, Radio instead? I've heard he was specifically told NOT to do that song by network execs because of the anti-corporate media message. Thumbing his nose at them might have had more to do with it than feeling apprehensive about doing Less than Zero.

For some reason I thought all the controversy centered around Less than Zero, but yeah, it was Radio Radio, which makes sense given the nature of the lyrics.

I'm not sure he ever actually, quote, went country, end quote, I just think he's doing the standard exploring of other styles that a lot of performers do as they get older. You were aware I'm sure that Costello collaborated a few years ago with Burt Bacharach on a "standards" type album. I think they even wrote some songs together. I agree his older records were more consistent, but there were still a few good cuts on his later albums.

I just purchased Painted from Memory and my verdict is that's it's great, certainly better than what I had expected. Is Brutal Youth any good? A record store I visit is selling it used for $5.99

In no order for this week:


Germs

Have you seen Penelope Spheeris's Decline of Western Civilization? I've heard a lot about it, how it captures the angst of the LA punk scene in the late 70's, great live footage, in depth interviews with Darby Crash, Lee Ving, etc, etc. A video rental place around here has it, but they want a $250 deposit before they'll let me rent it. If you have seen it, could you tell me if it's worth seeing?

[QUOTE=carl_rylander]My list:

1. The Smiths

Great band, brave to mention them as people assume you're leftist if you like them, more so than most bands outside of the Clash who outside of the juvenile politics were also great and in truth, despite themselves, delivered a damning critique of the multi racial experiment.

....I just purchased Painted from Memory and my verdict is that's it's great, certainly better than what I had expected. Is Brutal Youth any good? A record store I visit is selling it used for $5.99
I think Brutal Youth is one of his best efforts. That's even taking into consideration his earliest material. If you can get it for six bucks that's a steal. The songs Pony St. and My Science Fiction Twin are worth the price of the album in themselves, imo. But the rest of the songs are strong as well all the way through the record. There isn't really anything there that could be considered "filler" material. I like that album very much and recommend it without reservations.

Have you seen Penelope Spheeris's Decline of Western Civilization? I've heard a lot about it, how it captures the angst of the LA punk scene in the late 70's, great live footage, in depth interviews with Darby Crash, Lee Ving, etc, etc. A video rental place around here has it, but they want a $250 deposit before they'll let me rent it. If you have seen it, could you tell me if it's worth seeing?

Yeah, I was at the premiere. It is the best look at the LA scene that I know of. It is a snapshot of how things were circa '80. I'd go online and try to get a copy that way. Amazon has it for $45. Kickboy Face is God!

Bet that was cool. He's a good bass player and I'm glad to hear he has his head on straight. I would have liked to have met him back then. He's gonna be touring in June with Grant Lee Phillips but it looks like they're only playing back east.

June 2004
2 - Louisville, KY - Uncle Pleasant's
3 - Nashville, TN - Mercy Lounge
4 - Cleveland, OH - Grog Shop
5 - Pittsburgh, PA - Club Cafe
7 - Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's
8 - New York, NY - Knitting Factory
9 - Brooklyn, NY - North Six
10 - Boston, MA - Paradise
12 - Philadelphia, PA - North Star
13 - Alexandria, VA - Birchmere
14 - Detroit, MI - Magic Bag
15 - Indianapolis, IN - Patio Lounge
17 - Chicago, IL - Park West

http://www.livedaily.com/news/6405.html

X is playing at the (Ugh) House of Blues in LA in June.

[QUOTE=carl_rylander]My list:

1. The Smiths

Great band, brave to mention them as people assume you're leftist if you like them, more so than most bands outside of the Clash who outside of the juvenile politics were also great and in truth, despite themselves, delivered a damning critique of the multi racial experiment.

I agree 100%! Tha Clash was a great band. Ya just have to get past the childish politix. The Smiths were also great. Morrissey has a few songs that really burned up the reds like "The National Front Disco" and "Bengali in Platforms". Just his use of the Union Jack pissed those pussies off.

X is playing at the (Ugh) House of Blues in LA in June.
Too bad they're playing there. It irritates me when cool bands get popular 20 years after their heyday and they become suddenly "fashionable" with the five minutes ago crowd. Next they'll be playing halftime at the Rose Bowl. Is Exene Cervenka gonna be with them? I heard she and JD had a bad breakup or argument or something and weren't speaking anymore.

Too bad they're playing there. It irritates me when cool bands get popular 20 years after their heyday and they become suddenly "fashionable" with the five minutes ago crowd. Next they'll be playing halftime at the Rose Bowl. Is Exene Cervenka gonna be with them? I heard she and JD had a bad breakup or argument or something and weren't speaking anymore.

Yeah She'll be there. Her and John Doe broke up like '86 or something. However they still perform together in X. I hate how absolutely plastic music clubs are now. Put me in a sweat soaked, beer on the floor dive anyday.

Yeah She'll be there. Her and John Doe broke up like '86 or something. However they still perform together in X. I hate how absolutely plastic music clubs are now. Put me in a sweat soaked, beer on the floor dive anyday.
Yup. The phonies stay out of places like that. The kissy type clubs now are places to be seen more than places for real fans to see/hear the band.

LA is a long haul but I might think about getting over there to catch that show.

Yup. The phonies stay out of places like that. The kissy type clubs now are places to be seen more than places for real fans to see/hear the band.

LA is a long haul but I might think about getting over there to catch that show.

When you get there, pour some beer on the floor. :)

Yeah, I was at the premiere. It is the best look at the LA scene that I know of. It is a snapshot of how things were circa '80. I'd go online and try to get a copy that way. Amazon has it for $45. Kickboy Face is God!

Thanks, I think I'll take your advice and find a used copy online.

BTW, do you know if Lee Ving is a WN? He was interviewed awhile ago in Resistance magazine. The issue the interview appears in is sold out and I've been unable to find anyone who has an issue they could scan for me.

I think Brutal Youth is one of his best efforts. That's even taking into consideration his earliest material. If you can get it for six bucks that's a steal. The songs Pony St. and My Science Fiction Twin are worth the price of the album in themselves, imo. But the rest of the songs are strong as well all the way through the record. There isn't really anything there that could be considered "filler" material. I like that album very much and recommend it without reservations.

I'll pick it up tommorrow. I figure I can't go wrong considering how excellent your taste in music is.

Are you familiar with the Soft Boys? I included them in my "top ten" list. They released an album in 1980 called Underwater Moonlight. The album can best be described as a blend of post-punk, psychedelia, the Kinks and early Pink Floyd. If you haven't heard it already, please purchase it and then tell me what you think of it.

Thanks, I think I'll take your advice and find a used copy online.

BTW, do you know if Lee Ving is a WN? He was interviewed awhile ago in Resistance magazine. The issue the interview appears in is sold out and I've been unable to find anyone who has an issue they could scan for me.

Hmm. I wouldn't doubt it. I met him once & he was very cool. That was in '82 when he was still a punk. However he was always a bit of a Biker. And FEAR were never PC! After that ('87?) he formed a Country band called "Range War" in Texas. Lots of Stars & Bars and all things Dixie. So yeah, I wouldn't doubt it.

I'll pick it up tommorrow. I figure I can't go wrong considering how excellent your taste in music is.

Are you familiar with the Soft Boys? I included them in my "top ten" list. They released an album in 1980 called Underwater Moonlight. The album can best be described as a blend of post-punk, psychedelia, the Kinks and early Pink Floyd. If you haven't heard it already, please purchase it and then tell me what you think of it.

Ha, thanks. I've had a few people tell me my taste in music is dreadful so I guess it's a wash.

Yeah, I remember The Soft Boys but I don't recall hearing their music or knowing that's what it was if I did hear it. Let me see if I can find some of their recorded material and give it a listen. I have a friend who is into obscure bands and extreme musical minutiae and she has some really hard to find records. I'll give her a call, it's possible she might have something by them. If not there's a good record store near me and I'll stop in and talk to the owner. He's pretty knowledgeable about the bands from those years. He carries a whole section of used records and he might have something in stock. I can probably find something off the net if all else fails. Let me know a title of an album you think is worthwhile so I'll have an idea what to look for.

I can't believe they actually put Bob Marley on that list. He is completely insignificant. Usually, they put Jimi Hendrix on these lists as the undeserving token Nigger.

There are hundreds of people from the 60's and 70's (the time period they covered) more significant and influential than Bob Marley.

The greastest rock band of the 80's is Guns N' Roses!

Bull Heritage! Best rock band of the 80's was AC/DC! "I'm on a highway to hell, and all my friends are gonna be there too!" :)

"If you want blood, you got it!"

"I wanna tell ya a story/bout a girl I know/when it comes to loving..ooo she steals the show/ain't exactly pretty/ain't exactly small/55-64-82 you could say she's got it alllllll!

the enjoyment of rock music often depended on the right combination of self-medication. May sound goofy for a white nationalist, but I still have yet to duplicate the intensity and depth of experience of seeing the Grateful Dead while high on LSD. Sort of a "group mind" thing.

Top 10 Rock Bands

1. AC/DC
2. The Who
3. The Clash
4. Jethro Tull
5. Yes
6. The Grateful Dead
7. The Jefferson Airplane
8. The Cranberries
9. The Beatles
10. Nirvanna

Ha, thanks. I've had a few people tell me my taste in music is dreadful so I guess it's a wash.

Yeah, I remember The Soft Boys but I don't recall hearing their music or knowing that's what it was if I did hear it. Let me see if I can find some of their recorded material and give it a listen. I have a friend who is into obscure bands and extreme musical minutiae and she has some really hard to find records. I'll give her a call, it's possible she might have something by them. If not there's a good record store near me and I'll stop in and talk to the owner. He's pretty knowledgeable about the bands from those years. He carries a whole section of used records and he might have something in stock. I can probably find something off the net if all else fails. Let me know a title of an album you think is worthwhile so I'll have an idea what to look for.

Pick up Underwater Moonlight. I'm curious as to what your reaction to it will be.