Here it is ye Jew opposers. Care to explain why this Israeli newspaper keeps reporting this story? Or why year or two later FBI still hasnt ever publically commented on this? Go ahead. Explain. Waiting. Explain why those Israeli art students were following around Atta in little Hollywood Fla too-- before they were expelled for "overstaying their visas."

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

"I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.

As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.

Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and the actual sender of the original message.

Heh! Would'nt hold my breath waiting on a response to this one. I've got a feeling this ol' thread's gonna collect some serious dust, just like AH's "A Question for the Anti's". He's now going on five weeks without a response from one anti.

Heh! Would'nt hold my breath waiting on a response to this one. I've got a feeling this ol' thread's gonna collect some serious dust, just like AH's "A Question for the Anti's". He's now going on five weeks without a response from one anti.

well if they dont want to debate facts, we'll go back to something else, like "why are jews so greedy" the subject of my next thread.

It would be interesting to see if anyone responds to this. Maybe I should sticky some of these threads that anti's seem to be ignoring. My "A little something about Israel" thread didnt seem to get much anti response even though there was quite abit of discussion going inside of it.

Jewish news sites will ocassionaly have news about some goodies and thats the sources that we want because it comes straight from the kikes themselves! If you come across something too good by all means make a thread or post about it!

It would be interesting to see if anyone responds to this. Maybe I should sticky some of these threads that anti's seem to be ignoring. My "A little something about Israel" thread didnt seem to get much anti response even though there was quite abit of discussion going inside of it.

Jewish news sites will ocassionaly have news about some goodies and thats the sources that we want because it comes straight from the kikes themselves! If you come across something too good by all means make a thread or post about it!

that's part of why I started reading VNN in the first place-- I was happy to see somebody else of the same bent covering the Izzie press. I've been reading jerusalem times and haaretz about once a month for years.

AE- If it was a Zionist conspiracy-why would the Mossad let newspapers, like Haaretz, discuss it? Wouldn't the Mossad, who in your eyes is all powerful, have the ability to hush up those two workers? Hell, The Mossad
could have killed those two workers, and hushed up everything. Is the Mossad so stupid that it would risk Israel's relationship with America to do such a thing? There were plenty of American Jews who were killed that day. Was the Mossad oblivious to their lives?
I would like to know what exactly was the warning the 2 workers recived?
Was it a general warning of a terrorist attack, or was it a specific warning, of planes being hijacked and turned into missles.If it was the first, then it might have simply been a coincidence.
Plus you forget, El Quaida has publicly taken responsibility for the attack. Your hero Bin Ladden was taped discussing it. How do you explain that?
It's interesting to me that you read Haaretz and Jerusalem Post. Do you believe the news that comes from Jews or not?

AE- If it was a Zionist conspiracy-why would the Mossad let newspapers, like Haaretz, discuss it? Wouldn't the Mossad, who in your eyes is all powerful, have the ability to hush up those two workers? Hell, The Mossad
could have killed those two workers, and hushed up everything. Is the Mossad so stupid that it would risk Israel's relationship with America to do such a thing? There were plenty of American Jews who were killed that day. Was the Mossad oblivious to their lives?
I would like to know what exactly was the warning the 2 workers recived?
Was it a general warning of a terrorist attack, or was it a specific warning, of planes being hijacked and turned into missles.If it was the first, then it might have simply been a coincidence.
Plus you forget, El Quaida has publicly taken responsibility for the attack. Your hero Bin Ladden was taped discussing it. How do you explain that?
It's interesting to me that you read Haaretz and Jerusalem Post. Do you believe the news that comes from Jews or not?

1) last things first: of course not. I look for news aimed AT jews to see what you are saying to each other. of course you aim plenty of lies at each other. I keep on thinking of the poor Jews that died in labor camps during the war while the rich Jews skeddadled to Britain and US and the middle class Jews tripped over to the British Mandate of Palestine. So I read from many different perspectives. It's an effort but worth it about once a month. I notice the Jew newspapers have a certain lead time on NYT and WSJ when it comes to the Jew party line, so there is that as well.

2) al-Q: CIA creation to fight soviets. probably the zhids were plenty involved. according to gordon thomas, Israel has this crazy US intel program called PROMIS which allows them to stay a step ahead of everybody. so I think the Jews meaning your Mossad, did not perpetrate 9-11 just knew it was coming and positioned everything to exploit. Arab terrorists acted as proxies for Israeli interests, whether unwitting or not, I dont know and dont care. The sad thing is your cousins here in the Diaspora were the ones who went up in flames while you Izzy Jews laughed and maybe counted insurance shekels with the Jew owner of the building Larry Silverstein. Ever heard of "Jewish lightening?" yet another coincidence eh?

3) I'd like to know more about the story too. Too bad FBI and the Jew-owned American press wont investigate it any further.

4) "you" believe this and that. wrong. I believe Mossad is an intelligence agency like any other in that they serve their national interests which are not American or European interests. Theyre powerful but not all powerful. I dont know what kind of dipshits you think VNN readers are but likely not many Americans know for example that Jon Pollard was not a Mossad asset but was run by a mossadnik who was at the time running Lakam. Then there is counterintelligence, "shin bet," and military intelligence, called "aman." You ought to go learn a thing or two yourself yedudit before coming here and trying to "debate." I know that's hard with the over-reaching Israeli military censorship of newspapers, but hey, you might as well try, jah?

Anyways, I am not one of the paranoids who believes Mossad is in the every nook and cranny pulling strings. From what Ostrovsky says, there are not that many katsas around the world and they are plenty busy on high-value schemes too screw around with Odigo would be a waste of time and not worth the trouble especially since as you can see, the public is easily deceived anyways.

Finally, and you should consider this, Sharon and his Likudniks are warmongering fanatics who threaten the world with nuclear oblivion. There are many Jews in Israel who are a damn sight saner than this fat bastard no doubt there a few in Mossad. I read an article from UK independent all about how fatass Sharon has "backchanneled" with Rumsfeld and cut CIA and Mossad out of the loop.

So I'll betcha Mossad is going to have his fat ass, and CIA will chew up the neocons too. This sorry alliance is going in the shitcan of history and you can go watch it even as Fallujah is sending the message loud and clear.

If Mossad had prior knowledge to 9-11, wouldn't it be in Israel's best interest for the Mossad to have alerted the American government prior to the attack, thus winning the gratitude of the American people, and more importantly the American government.Of course, the 'Jewish controlled media" as you refer to it would have championed Israel's role in preventing this outrage for years to come.Doesn't that make a little more sense?
The reason you don't like Sharon is that is he kicks butt, and doesn't take prisoners. Absolutely one of the greatest leaders of our generation.

The reason you don't like Sharon is that is he kicks butt, and doesn't take prisoners. Absolutely one of the greatest leaders of our generation.
Your people will rue the day they elected The Butcher!

Dopelhaken- that's a drop in the bucket compared to the non Jewish owned slave ships. Forget it-the American black slave trade was white dominated.

If Mossad had prior knowledge to 9-11, wouldn't it be in Israel's best interest for the Mossad to have alerted the American government prior to the attack, thus winning the gratitude of the American people, and more importantly the American government.Of course, the 'Jewish controlled media" as you refer to it would have championed Israel's role in preventing this outrage for years to come.Doesn't that make a little more sense?
The reason you don't like Sharon is that is he kicks butt, and doesn't take prisoners. Absolutely one of the greatest leaders of our generation.

Your Ostrovsky says the Mossad knew about the Marine barracks bombing back in '83 and withheld the information. So there's an established precedent.

Mossad operatives were laughing and celebrating after the WTC attacks; Netanyahu could barely conceal his glee. Credit for an attack forestalled pales beside tricking your patron into launching an expensive foreign war not in his interest. Big risk, big reward. But actually, neither the risk nor the reward is big. The American public is so dulled by decades of jewed media that you could print a candid admission by the Mossad on page one of the NYT, and it wouldn't matter. By the same token, the war in Iraq's not going to lead to the result the jews anticipated back when the lies were fresh and persuasive.

As for Sharon, I do believe he would do anything to promote the interests of the jewish people. But as Wilde says, each man kills the thing he loves. Meaning it's not so easy to produce intended results; often as not one produces the opposite of what one intended.

I think it's safe to say that in 2004 more people hate Israel and jews than at any point in history. When people look at how Ari the Blutwurst acts, they understand exactly what we at VNN are talking about. Ari's the most effective anti-Semite in the world. He knows this, but thinks that it doesn't matter - that jews can get away with absolutely anything. There are some grounds to believe that, but I don't think itz over yet. There are many trends not in Israel's favor, and the next time the Aryan is on top of the jew, he will end it.

I'm waiting for a jew, any jew: Glex, Yehoodi, Keystone, to respond to this...

DO YOU KNOW WHO REALLY BROUGHT THE BLACK SLAVES TO AMERICA?

The following information is documented in 4 volumes by Elizabeth Donnan, with Documents illustrative of the slave trade in America. They can be found in the National Library Washington, D.C. and in the Carnegie Institute of Technology Library, Pittsburgh, PA.

Name of Ship Owners

Abigail.......... Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy and Jacob Franks
Crown............ Isaac Levy and Natham Simpson
Nassau........... Moses Levy
Four Sisters..... Moses Levy
Anne and Eliza... Justus Bosch and John Adams
Prudent Betty.... Henry Cruger and Jacob Phoenix
Hester........... Mordecai and Davdi Gomez
Elizabeth........ Mordecai and Davdi Gomez
Antigua.......... Natham Marston and Abram Lyell
Betsy............ Wm. De Woolf
Polly............ James De Woolf
White Horse...... Jan de Sweevts
Expedition....... John and Jacob Roosevelt
Charlotte........ Moses and Sam Levy; Jacob Franks
Caracoa.......... Moses and Sam Levy

A good example of the way jews work as one to spread lies and suppress the truth concerns this posted above: the prominent role of jews in enslaving and selling blacks in the American colonies. The facts, taken from almost exclusively jewish sources, were printed in a book put out by the Nation of Islam, The Secret Relationship Between the Blacks and the Jews. This book, which really is just what I said, little more than a reprint of facts collated first by jews themselves 'back in the day,' was denounced by neocon jews, who wish to preserve the jew-serving myth of their people as the special helpers of the negro, against the evil White majority. A jew is a jew is a jew -- all a jew cares about is what is "good for jews." As Monica Lewinsky said, "We were told to lie. It was how you got through life."

Alex-Please quote the Ostrovsky book where it says Israel had definte concrete knowledge that the marine's barracks were going to be blown up. I read the book years ago-and I don't remember anything to that effect.
Who were the mossad operatives who were laughing when the twin towers came down? I will personally send you 50 dollars if you can bring me one piece of credible proof that mossad operatives were arrested after 9-11
for that offense. I do recall a small group of young Israelis who were seen laughing, or some such thing-and they were arrested, if I'm not mistaken. That behavior is disgusting-but they were not mossad operatives. And compare that to the Arab world where there was lots of rejoicing after 9-11.Remember the scenes of East-Jerusalem? Hell, a lot of the white nationalists were happy about it. Israelis were in mourning.
Credible black historians such as Cornell West and Henry Gates jr have totally demolished the Farakhan book., and the allegations tht Jews were involved in any kind of significant way with the slave trade.
Alex-everything you wrote was a lie or a distortion.That is what sustains your movement. Dishonesty.Lies.
You say that Jews and Israel have never been more hated than they are today. I don't know. I do know that we have the most pro-israel president in the history of the USA. If just a few more people in key states voted for Gore, Israel's fate would have been much worse. Just out of curiosity-who did you vote for Alex? Did you help elect the most pro israel president in the history of the United States?

If Mossad had prior knowledge to 9-11, wouldn't it be in Israel's best interest for the Mossad to have alerted the American government prior to the attack, thus winning the gratitude of the American people, and more importantly the American government.Of course, the 'Jewish controlled media" as you refer to it would have championed Israel's role in preventing this outrage for years to come.Doesn't that make a little more sense?
The reason you don't like Sharon is that is he kicks butt, and doesn't take prisoners. Absolutely one of the greatest leaders of our generation.

No, Yahoodi, that would not be the case because intelligence often can't be revealed to the public because it would alert the bad guys to what is refered to as "sources and methods." If you know something the bad guys dont want you to, you cant always go blathering it or you may "burn the source."

Plus, the American media "champions" Israel as a socalled ally anyway-- rather than the international rogue state the rest of the world knows it to be. Tell me again when has Dimona ever been inspected by IEAA? Iran is expected to have inspections of nuke facilities, but not Israel. Has Israel signed the NNPA? Nuclear NonProliferation Act? Of course not. Not any more than North Korea has.

Alex-Please quote the Ostrovsky book where it says Israel had definte concrete knowledge that the marine's barracks were going to be blown up. I read the book years ago-and I don't remember anything to that effect.

Ostrovsky had two books on his experiences Mr factoid, for your information, By Way of Deception and the Other Side of Deception. Ostrovsky wrote about this and so has Gordon Thomas, who is an English journalist who interviewed more than one former head of Mossad for his book Gideon's Spies. If you want to see the chapter and verse go dig it out yourself.

As for whether or not those bozo Israelis with the moving vans and boxcutters who were arrested for cheering 9-11, that story can be obtained from antiwar.com. Check the Justin Raimondo archive. Look it up yourself. I personally doubt they were mossad, but there are scads of contractors or "sayanim" crawling around in the diaspora volunteering to help the bandit state do mischief. It just sounds like this pair were exceptionally incompetent.

Alex made the claim that Ostrovsky wrote that Israel had definitive, prior knowledge that the Marine barracks in Beirut were going to be bombed,when they were. Now where the hell does it say that? You white nationalists made the claim-now you white nationalists back it up! But I guarantee Alex Linder will not respond with a source.Because it is a lie!!! Just like his assertion about Mossad ops cheering 9-11. Lies, lies, and more lies.

Alex made the claim that Ostrovsky wrote that Israel had definitive, prior knowledge that the Marine barracks in Beirut were going to be bombed,when they were. Now where the hell does it say that? You white nationalists made the claim-now you white nationalists back it up! But I guarantee Alex Linder will not respond with a source.Because it is a lie!!! Just like his assertion about Mossad ops cheering 9-11. Lies, lies, and more lies.

LOL can you even buy those books in Iszntreal? I guess that's why you think it's a lie. You havent read the books and you cant even access them in the Hate State.

But I guarantee Alex Linder will not respond with a source.Because it is a lie!!! Just like his assertion about Mossad ops cheering 9-11. Lies, lies, and more lies.
Yuck it up, jewboy!
ITZ COMING!


"A group of Israelis was picked up by the FBI after being spotted in Liberty State Park in Jersey City, New Jersey, laughing and high-fiving one another as the World Trade Center burned on the other side of the river. A story by Paulo Lima in the Bergen, New Jersey, Record (September 12, 2002) describes how five men—“Israeli tourists”—were picked up eight hours after the WTC attack, “carrying maps linking them to the blasts”:

[S]ources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot.

There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,” the source said. “It looked like they’re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.”

Lima reports that the five “tourists” had been picked up after local police received the following alert from the FBI:

Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with “Urban Moving Systems” sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals.

These reports attracted little if any notice. Not long after, however, the whole operation began to surface in major media. On November 23, 2001, the Washington Post ran a story by John Mintz detailing how, along with the 1,000 or so Muslim Middle Easterners jailed in the Ashcroft sweep, 60 Israelis had been picked up and held, not just for routine visa violations, but in connection with the September 11 investigation. The Post’s subhead read: “Government calls Several Cases ‘of Special Interest,’ Meaning Related to Post-Attacks Investigation.”

According to Mintz’s account, INS officials in Cleveland and St. Louis testified in court that these Israelis were “of special interest to the government”—putting them in the same category as hundreds of mostly Arab men rounded up by the feds since the attacks.

Over the next eight or nine months, the rest of the story would come out, though it would be obscured by denials and submerged by an oddly indifferent media. “It is rather strange,” remarked Jane’s Defense Intelligence Digest (March 13, 2002), “that the US media seems to be ignoring what may well be the most explosive story since the 11 September attacks—the alleged break-up of a major Israeli espionage operation in the USA.” (The Post’s story blandly assured readers that the Israeli detainees were “observing a time-honored tradition in their country—touring the world after their mandatory service in the Israeli military,” although Mintz did note that “a number of them had served in counterterrorist units in Israel.”)

On December 11, 2001, Fox News ran the first in a series of investigative reports that blew the whistle on a vast Israeli spy network operating on American soil—and openly posed the question of whether the Israelis had foreknowledge of September 11. According to Jane’s, what is striking about Fox News reporter Carl Cameron’s portrait of Israel’s spy network in the U.S. is the sheer vastness of his subject. The broad scope of the operation, with its many fronts and activities conducted from coast to coast, had all the aspects of a major military campaign. In the months leading up to 9/11, Cameron claimed, Israel was waging a covert war against its principal ally and benefactor, the United States.

Over four nights, Cameron reported the myriad details of Israel’s far-flung underground army in the United States. He noted that some of the 60 detainees arrested in the wake of September 11 were active Israeli military officers. Some had failed polygraph tests when they were asked about “surveillance activities against and in the United States.”

Cameron showed how the Mossad had thoroughly penetrated top-secret communications systems. He cited veteran law-enforcement agents afraid for their jobs if they questioned Israel’s role. What really caught the attention of viewers, however, was the following statement from his first broadcast:

There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9-11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are—quote—“tie-ins.” But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying—quote—“evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”

Cameron’s bombshell should have provoked a frenzy of media interest and calls for an official investigation. That no such call was ever made is a story in itself.

In the first part of his report, Cameron focuses on a single aspect of a multilayered Israeli intelligence operation that became increasingly visible in the months preceding September 11:

Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to September 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States. Investigators from numerous government agencies are part of a working group that’s been compiling evidence since the mid-90s. These documents detail hundreds of incidents in cities and towns across the country that investigators say—quote—“may well be an organized intelligence gathering activity.”

These documents included a 60-page report compiled by a number of federal agencies. In the gray, matter-of-fact bureaucratese so typical of a government document, the “Israeli Art Student Papers”—leaked some months later—confirmed Cameron’s contention that a nationwide underground apparatus of Israeli agents, centered in Florida and Texas, carried out extensive operations in the months leading up to September 11. Their targets included the DEA; the INS; the Federal Protective Service; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms; the Federal Bureau of Investigation; a host of state and federal courthouses and other buildings; and military bases.

The leaked document describes in excruciating detail the doggedly persistent efforts of Israelis claiming to be “art students” to get into the offices and even the homes of federal law-enforcement agents and government officials".

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/August2003/0803CIA.html

Alex-Please quote the Ostrovsky book where it says Israel had definte concrete knowledge that the marine's barracks were going to be blown up. I read the book years ago-and I don't remember anything to that effect.


Well, jewboy, I happen to have it at hand, so here you go. This is jew Ostrovsky in The Other Side of Deception, p. 340, describing the jews' attempts to suppress his first book, By Way of Deception:

The first wave of fury the book caused was due to its revelation that the Mossad had advance knowledge of the notorious suicide bombing in Beirut (including the make and color of the car) but didn't pass that information on to American intelligence. In October 1983, two hundred and forty-one U.S. marines were killed when the car, rigged with explosives, rammed their barracks in Beirut. In many instances, this story from the book was taken out of context and told as if I'd said that the Mossad knew Americans were the target, which was not the case.

So there you go, jewboy. Every jew a liar.

Credible black historians such as Cornell West and Henry Gates jr have totally demolished the Farakhan book., and the allegations tht Jews were involved in any kind of significant way with the slave trade.
Alex-everything you wrote was a lie or a distortion.That is what sustains your movement. Dishonesty.Lies.

You're the liar, jude. Cornell West is a "credible" historian? No. Cornell West is a peanut-sized mountebank whose professional existence is predicated on a jewed university system.

Obviously you have not seen the book. Even to describe it as a book is somewhat inaccurate. It is in large part simply a compilation of lists from jewish sources. It is not something that can be "demolished," unless it can be demonstrated that Nation of Islam researchers made it up out of thin air. So, be precise, jude-the-liar: are you saying

1) the Nation of Islam made up the lists of jewish slavers, their ships and black cargo?; or

2) your fellow jewish slavers who compiled the list are liars?

Which is it, jewboy? Inquiring goys want to know.

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The truth about slavery comes out..., July 15, 2002
Reviewer: A reader from Pittsburg, CA USA I am not black, I am not Jewish. I am a European born Christian white male. This book goes to doccument many many accounts of Jewish people owning slaves and being the main rullers of the slave trade. I am familiar with Jews throughout history and this does not surprise me. With their modern day control of the media, movies, television, newspapers, magazines, etc of course they would not like this book to be read by the masses. Why? Because after reading it, if you are black, white, jewish, christian, etc you come to one startling conclusion. The Jews are the ones who enslaved black people and they are the ones who promoted and sold slaves alot more than Christian White Males did. Knowing that, would all of the angry black people in america still blame the White Christian male for slavery...no, they would not...they would blame the Jews. This book is written by the Nation of Islam. It is very well put together and contains sources for all of the information in it. If you want the TRUTH about slavery and not the media mainstream version pick this book up.


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INCREDIBly HONEST & RIVETING,, April 2, 2001
Reviewer: A reader from Bath, Somerset England There are many books purporting to be the "History of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Writing and references are sloppy, claims are far fetched and even invented. Not this book. I first read this book after loaning it from my public library. I antiscipated yet another hysterical diatribe against whites or polemic against African chieftans. Anyone seeking racists stereotypes should look elsewhere. This book is remarkably well researched. The quotes are all from Jewish sources and no others are included because of the risk of anti-semitic bias.

The book basically consists of archival records of business transactions, personal correspondance and public records of the Shephadic ( North African, Southern European and Dutch Jews) kidnapping, selling and loaning of African slaves. Its descibes the Jews creation of the trans-Atlantic slave trade which began with Christopher Colombus's arrival in the "New World" and his sending Native American Indians back to Spain. Its describes how Jewish wealth already acquired from their slave trading during the Middle Ages and Ottoman Empire period in Europe and the Middle East enabled the Jews to have the financial resources and seafaring merchantile experiences to successfully sell slaves and then sell the produce of slave labor consisting of sugar , tobacco and rum back to the Europeans. The book describes the struggles by various European monarchs to ban the consumption of excessive amounts for sugar, tobacco and rum which was leading to social decline in people that had become addicted to sugar and tobacco. A problem that is still the scourge of western society.

It also describes the tremendous indifference to the pain and suffering caused to African families and the obvious loss of life resulting from Jewish policey which claimed that it was more profitable to kill a slave after seven years then feed him or her nutrional food and keep them alive longer. Many contemporary health problems within the African-American population can be traced back to the slavery era in which their ancestors were fed only on molasses (residue of fermented surgar)

Its records the cultural backlash against the Jews profiteering and pirateering from African and European monarchs and even early American settlers like Peter Styvestant in New York City. There was also numerous slave uprisings resulting in pitched and bloody battles fought between Jewish slave traders and their African captives in South America. Who would disappear into the rain forests to live alongside Native Americans. One siege lasted for nine years with the Jews eventually giving up.

I am a cultural anthropologist so I checked out as many references as I could and they were all authentic. Particularly chilling are the personal correspondance between Jewish slave owners about their private lives and slavery. Incest and venereal disease was common place amongst them but this did not act as any kind of obstacle since the lure of huge profits clashed with personal scruples

There are some fresh insights into the role that the Jewish merchants played in the genocide against Native American Indians. It was a Jewish merchant that supplied the infected blankets and handkerchiefs to the English. So that they could reduce their numbers on the East coast of America with small pox. It describes how the Native Americans were encouraged to participate in slave trading to prevent slaves from escaping to their encampments but the outcome was unsuccessful because the Native tribes would not treat their African captives any different from their own people. This is still a considerable amount of the African-American popluace of both Americas which has Native American Indian ancestry due to intermixing.

All though the book is brief and riveting. Its is not easy reading at all. You really require a cast iron stomach to get through it because of the somewhat gory nature of its contents. However the archival material is so relentless and succint that although you may feel revolted by the mercenary accounts of what must be one of the worst records of mans'inhumanity to man. You still want to read it none the less.

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The Stars and Bars and the Star of David., February 16, 2003

Reviewer: Derek Pillion (see more about me) from Camp Hill, PA I fail to see how this book has been targeted as a vessel carrying "racist or anti-Semitic" propaganda. It likely offends certain sensibilities because of the research dug up and documented. Bear in mind that this has less to do with the Nation of Islam than with research and the publishing of those results; the only reference to Islam is the phrase "All Praise is Due to Allah," on the title page. Furthermore, there is minimal evidence of a victim mentality in the presentation of this information. I fail to see how this could be sloppy scholarship because the hundreds of sources used are catalouged, quoted, extensivly commented upon and legitimate. Most of the SECRET RELATIONSHIP'S detractors likely haven't sat down to actually read it and decide for themselves because of their predjudices. In fact, the book that condemns this one gets better advertising.

THE SECRET RELATIONSHIP is about the Jewish involvement in the black African slave trade from the middle ages to Reconstruction after the American Civil War. Jews were either heavily influential or dominated the New World cash-crop commerce which was the harbringer of slavery in the American colonies. In country after country this is documented: Brazil, Suriname, Guyana, Jamacia, Curacao, Barbados, Hispanola, the soutern American colonies, etc. A disproportionate amount of the financiers of the Dutch India Company and in Newport, Rhode Island (who funded slave ships and voyages to Africa) were from prominient Jewish families. During the Civil War most Jews either supported the Confederacy and very few condemned the enslavement of Africans, which they deemed inferior to the light-skinned races. One of the most influential Jews in American history was Confederate Secretary of War Judah P. Benjamin. Jews also participated in the Confederates' secret diplomacy with European powers. The final section of the SECRET RELATIONSHIP gives a list of Jews involved in the opression of Africans along with historical and biographical information about them. Once again tradtional Establishment history errs by blaming white Christians as soley responsible for the slave trade. Only 30% of whites/Christians who lived in the south owned black slaves, while 70% of the Jews there did. Also recommended: THEY WERE WHITE AND THEY WERE SLAVES by Michael Hoffman.

The truth about the Black holocaust, March 29, 2002

Reviewer: dialo (see more about me) from South Africa Like most of my brothers, I was told and I used to believe that whites were responsible for the black holocaust. Now I see the truth. This book was written by African brothers, and they uncover the mighty lobby that started up slavery again and run it : the Jewish lobby. Brother, you must buy that book about the Black Holocaust and know that they used their influence to allow slavery, that they had North-African Jews round up African victims, that they run the business of deporting us out of Africa by their Jewish brothers based in Europe, especially in Holland where their lobby was very strong and they could manipulate the naive Dutch colonist. And then they would sell us like merchandise in the American colonies. Man! What a revelation! Is it true? Yes, our Black Islam African brothers who wrote book have no gain in defending Christian Europeans, and they rely solely on Jewish primary sources! Man, how come I never knew this truth about our holocaust, how come? Brother, you have brains : Find out who owns the banks, finances, and the media. Seek and Find. Now brother, you know how that sick (awful in our eyes) Western world run and how it is controlled? Understand? So the book is true, our brothers who wrote it are not wrong. And does that book mean that white are not guilty? Come on shall I ever forgive those who used slavery, and above all destroyed our soul by sending missionaries to destroy African religions, cultures and languages. This book is genuine black scholarship, it is a tough read, but all my African brothers should know the truth about the black holocaust, and I urge you, brothers, to buy or lend this book.

jew media credibility:

p. 337, "The Other Side of Deception," Victor Ostrovsky, jew, describing the attempt to suppress/smear his first book, "By Way of Deception":

Then several Israeli newspeople showed up, acting both as reporters for their own papers and as commentators for the other media. One, by the name of Ran Dagony, reporting for a daily newspaper in Israel called Maariv, published an extremely devastating interview with me that he claimed to have conducted in Toronto. The interview covered almost two full newspaper pages. The man only neglected to mention that we'd never met and that I'd never spoken to him.

Sweet Jesus. Even the New York Times might blanch at that, at least if it wasn't coming from a nigger goy wonder.

Can the Mossad suppress books within the United States?

Ostrovsky, p. 336, "The Other Side of Deception," (1994), speaking about Mossad attempting to suppress his first book, "By Way of Deception":

The Mossad made its move in the United States and managed to temporarily block further distribution of the book there. This was an unprecedented move, and the reaction in the States was much more vocal and furious than the Canadian reaction. It's clear that Americans act much more aggressively when they sense that their freedom of speech is being restricted.

Would the Mossad hesitate to murder an American president?

p. 358, Ostrovsky, "The Other Side of Deception":

The luncheon was attended by some twenty members of the think tank and a few MPs. I made a short presentation in which I explained the goals of the Mossad and the danger it presented to any peace initiative in the region. I also said that in my opinion, as things stood, the only chance the Middle East had for peace would be the cutting off of financial aid to Israel by the United States. I emphasized that a large chunk of this aid finds its way to the West Bank and the settlements, which were probably the biggest stumbling blocks to the peace initiative. Then I opened the floor to questions.

I was asked what the Mossad would do to stop the process that was now taking place. I said that from sources I had, and based on my knowledge of the Mossad, I would not be at all surprised if there was a plot right at this moment to kill the president of the United States and to throw the blame on some extreme Palestinian group.

Ya think Suckpoop Joe 'n' friends would go along with that "throw the blame"?

where the devil is Yahoodi? No reply from Kikistan? True facts Alex. Thanks!

YAHOODI: NO NEED TO SEND THAT $50 BUCKS YOU OWE LINDER NOW, PURIM IS ON ITZ WAY!

shavoah Tov -(Good week)

Alex-where do I begin. I asked you to provide proof that Ostrovsky wrote that Israel had concrete knowledge that the marine barracks were going to be blown up in Beirut when they were. You quoted me the Ostrovsky book-but in the same quote Ostrovsky admits that the Israelis did not know the Americans were going to be the targets of the terrorists. So there goes your whole assertion.
I'm still waiting for the proof that the Israelis arrested after 9-11 were Mossad operatives

shavoah Tov -(Good week)

Alex-where do I begin. I asked you to provide proof that Ostrovsky wrote that Israel had concrete knowledge that the marine barracks were going to be blown up in Beirut when they were. You quoted me the Ostrovsky book-but in the same quote Ostrovsky admits that the Israelis did not know the Americans were going to be the targets of the terrorists. So there goes your whole assertion.
I'm still waiting for the proof that the Israelis arrested after 9-11 were Mossad operatives

Hmm, maybe you are a Jew after all. That is the kind of sophistry Jews practice at yeshiva is it not? Whether binding the teats of a goat on the Shabbat is forbidden and whatnot?

See? You're coming around, Doppel. My black friends ARE my allies against societal decay. Always have been. I always choose my friends wisely. It's a shame (and ironic) that it took A. Linder's imprimatur to get you to admit that all blacks aren't mindless brutes. Very Good. With all due seriousness!

Keystone

hey, piss off. "good" blacks dont need condescending White liberals to coddle them. I dont give a shit about the exceptions anyways. You dont base social policy on a few exceptions.

my two black friends: one was murdered by other blacks. the other stopped talking to me, not after my "racism" which he had been accusing me of for years, but after he dumped his Ghanian wife and their child and took up with a White slut. He knew he was a shit for doing that, nothing better than ghetto scum. I remember in high school his dad telling us in the patois what a bunch of niggers american blacks were for neglecting their families. thank god his dad was dead and didnt have to live to see his second son go the same bad way of his first.

oh the first son of my friend's dad? he had couple black kids before prison, couple half-breeds after prison. settled down with a disgusting white slut to sponge off the welfare.

I learned one thing from blacks early on and that is, racial loyalty. Your "black friends" may be "playin you" you stupid honkey cracker peckerwood liberal bozo. Are you the local "diversity counselor" or something? Afirmative action headcounter? Social worker? Please tell me you're getting something useful out of your tokens.

I think he's a jew. That rabid hatred comes out regarding muzzy radicals, e.g.. I just don't think a White troll could get into a role that completely.

Glex does the same thing. His defense of niggers, etc., is perfunctory, but months ago, when I began submitting evidence of jews being tossed out of every country in Europe again and again, he started getting fidgety. He clearly personalized it.

I really don't care who these people are anyway. This is for sharpening my debate skills (first rule, never, ever let the jew frame the debate) and having fun.

Glex and Yehidi are either jews or great actors, because they sure argue like jews. Keystone said Juicy is the only real jew on board. Juicy is an irrational psychopath (where's Keystone, "not all jews are psychotic, blah, blah...). There isn't even the obscurantist, evasive, shape changing "debate" you have with the aforementioned. So again, I really don't care. It's just the internet.

I think Keystone sounds more Jewish than Yahoodi.

I'm enjoying the fencing here. It kind of reminds me of a few tournaments I went to back in high school years ago where I went into a class with a bunch of unccordinated karate nerds with no physical talent. Like shooting ducks in a barrel.

Yes, Martin is an exception. Thing is, if you don't filter every word and motive through a racialist filter, the exceptions multiply. After a whlie, you can't defend some of your beliefs, especially to children. Say if my daughter came home and told me her friend Tanisha was the smartest kid in class and has first chair violin in the school band. (This actually happened.) I could say, "well, she's just one smart nigger out of the rest." I didn't. I couldn't. Because I had actually met other black kids she went to school with that were smart as whips. So what do you say, " Well that's just two more! So what?" You can't. Children can't be fooled like that. You have to lie to them. This is real life, not the internet.

Now I don't like most blacks where I live because they don't like me. I'm no fool. This is the inner-city. Most blacks around here raise their kids to hate whites and vice versa. Never-ending fecking cycle. But when you meet people of other races who want to get along, I'm not going to spurn them because of their brethren. That's senseless. Utterly. Doesn't have anything to do with politics or idealogy. Nothing---unless you want it to.

No offense taken for being an apostate. I yam what I yam!

Keystone

Funny story that I went to a primary school with 40% blacks and it felt like 80%. had a black violin teacher and none of the blacks would play it. all the stringed instruments were White kids and the blacks only wanted to do brass.

I've never seen even one time a pro violin player black. Plenty of black opera singers and never any strings. So there's another stereotype for you to evade.

tanisha? is that like shaniqua?

But there were more than a few bloody brilliant black kids I knew.
Keystone
"Bloody brilliant black kids"! Hmmm, there is only one country that I know of where the people use the word "bloody" as an exclamation or expletive and thats the British.

You said you were American, didn't you Keystone? You wouldn't be lying to us "ebil rasits" would you, fucknuts?

And don't try to tell me, "Americans sometimes use that word". When was the last time you ever heard an American say, "that bloody Bush or those bloody jews" or you're a bleedin idiot"! ....you lying sack of Chutney eating puke!

high yellers eh? I'll bet geo washington carver was at least a quadroon.

Ever see a photo of WEB DuBois? He had so much white blood in him he could pass. Haven't you ever noticed that the only reasonably articulate niggers are caramel or lighter? In WWWM Simpson submits massive amounts of evidence (which has been confirmed by numerous sources) that almost literally without exception, the only competent negroes have lots of white blood.

Think american niggers are stupid? They have on average about 5 IQ points more than their african cousins. Studies have conclusively shown that a diminution of even 1 or 2 IQ points in a people's average has unbelievably far reaching and dire consequences. It's a fact. It's not debatable. It's because of miscegenation with whites. It's brings them up, and brings us down. That's why miscegenation is death for us.

yeah, WEB Dubois is an important figure. I consider him as marking the Jew takeover of native American negro politics. Before him, the Garveyism, the Carverism self help mentality was a reasonable approach for American groids. The advent of Dubois' Marxist takeover of black politics marks their total colonization by Jews. The Farrakhan crowd and Jamaicans usually have some inkling of this depending on their own native IQ and educational level.

My father saw one of those taliban or muslim guys on Barbra Walters right after 9/11 who mentioned 2000 jews stayed hime the day of 9/11. True or not, I don't know. But it wouldn't surpise me. I've researched it on the net and saw claims from the original 2000 up to 6000(which i'm sure is a case of exaggeration,) Did anyone else see this episode?

Who hit the homerun that won the 1960 World Series? Where did Heinz ketchup originate? Where was the first public library in the US built? What are the call letters of the first commercial radio station in the US? What city was called "Hell with the Lid Off" ? What NFL team had the "Steel Curtain"? What city did "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood" originate from?

Thats my home town.

Fucknuts

Ohhh yeah! And as everybody knows people in Pittsburgh always use the phrase: "Bloody brilliant black kids" to describe niggers! Keep trying, punk!

By the way, Maz was a great defensive player but he couldn't hit for shit. He should never have been elected into the hall of fame!

Who hit the homerun that won the 1960 World Series? Where did Heinz ketchup originate? Where was the first public library in the US built? What are the call letters of the first commercial radio station in the US? What city was called "Hell with the Lid Off" ? What NFL team had the "Steel Curtain"? What city did "Mister Rogers' Neighborhood" originate from?

Thats my home town.

Fucknuts

Pittsburg? I dont know the answers to those but I thought the first public library was established by Andrew Carnegie of steel fame. Which would correlate with the Pittsburg Steelers.

A good book on Philadelphia and ethnic strife and social engineering of neighborhoods is "Slaughter of the Cities" by E. Michael Jones. If you're familiar with the city and interested in the 60s era strife you might like to buy a copy. It's in print and available from culturewars.com. Take a look Keystone.

Correct. Andrew Carnegie donated $1 million to build the first free public library in the US, which was opened here in 1895. He also built museums, theaters and schools. He was a true philanthropist. His name is plastered all over Pittsburgh. He founded Carnegie Steel which later became US Steel. Most of our mills are gone now.

The first commercial radio station in the US was KDKA Pittsburgh, which started in 1921. Still going today.

Misterogers Neighborhood was produced at WQED Pittsburgh, the first public television station in the US.

I can see the original HJ Heinz plant from my attic window. My Austrian grandad retired from there. He was a cooper. Still have his tools.

We used to be the industrial center of the world (no exaggeration). Now we have no jobs.

I'll have a peek at that book, thanks.

interesting. why do you think there are no jobs? I feel another "why" thread gestating.

How about a different perspective?

Consider that stagnation is not growth, but rather the lack of growth. If we remained a 20th-century industrial power, would that not make us stagnant in the present post-industrial era now?

Perhaps the powers that be do not intend to destroy the working man. Maybe they want the blue collar guy to evolve into 21st century man. Get online, get a college degree, become an educated professional instead of the same old sweatshop grunt of a century ago.

How are they doing this? By taking away the enabling factor, the easy old industrial job where little eduaction is required, and shipping it offshore to the uneducated hopeless worker ants overseas.

What choice does that leave Mr. Blue Collar? Switch gears, get his ass in gear, get into the 21st century. Get a business, entertainment, IT or medical education and start making a new type of living. Also, understand that such jobs are now hard to get and very competitive. This promotes excellence using the competition stick and the big salary carrot.
Again, I just want to offer a less evil conspiratorial hypothesis to think about.

Lame post!

1) First of all, fuck the "powers that be"! Since when are American White men supposed to be pawns in a jew/rich gentile chess game?

2) Blue collar jobs of the 21st century are not "little eduaction is required" jobs. (By the way, it's "education"). High tec steel making, high rise construction, carpentry, electricians, plumbers, fabricators, etc. All require years of apprenticeship and knowledge of state and local building codes. Stress levels, load factors, blueprints, circuits, outlets, load centers, panel boards. Plumbers have become more involved in the design process. Their knowledge of codes and the operation of plumbing systems can cut costs. In addition, specialized piping systems are very important in both pharmaceutical and computer-chip manufacturing. But hey, they jus be dumbass blue collar types!

3) Most people don't have a clue as to what makes a country rich and prosperous. It ain't "entertainment"! Yes you can make money doing this but it doesn't produce anything. You have to make things, manufacture things, build stuff...right here in this country, not overseas. Employ White Americans building and making and inventing neato stuff FOR White Americans. Thats how the Germans got so big and powerful under Hitler! You think Uncle Wolf "shipped" the German workers lively hood "offshore to the uneducated hopeless worker ants overseas". Dude, what you know about economics couldn't fill a thimble.


Service jobs like "entertainment" and even the Medical profession do not produce anything. I'm not saying we don't need doctors, but a nation full of comedians and gynocologists ain't going to be a swell place to live in.

4) Competition: Is good to an extent but there is such a thing as to much competition. People at each others throats veying for the dwindling number of high paid jobs in this country is not my idea of a wonderful life. Throw in the mass of cheap foreign labor here and overseas, affirmative action, special entitlements and you have the makings of a White man catastrophe!

Personally fella, I don't want to live in a world you envision. Sounds like a kike hell to me!

I enjoyed Mr Rodgers as a child. It was a nice program and one I wouldnt mind if my kids watched.

But Mr Rodgers was a typical White Presbyterian liberal. Presbys grow up rich and elite and think they have the world by the balls cuz they own it. Or at least they're still telling themselves that. Meanwhile the old competition at usury, the Jews, have usurped the WASP leadership position in this country and the Presbyterians are still boring their congregations with crapola about snivel rights and MLK the saint and poor hungry afrkeakens and so forth. The women are oh 90% feminists who contracept and abort their kids out of existence and they wonder why their congregations are shrinking. Then the old men instead of changing the course sit around like the glory days are still here and life is "Mr Rodgers neighborhood."

Did Fred ever speak out AGAINST snivel rights? No. Did Fred ever say, "MR Rodgers neighborhood will become a ghetto if we let the ghetto come to MR Rodgers neighborhood!" NO WAY. Did Fred ever denounce the Jewish hand behind the growing media scheisskultur? No way.

That Presbyterian "culture of civility" misapplied to racial aliens. BIG mistake White man. And got news for ya-- it has nothing to do with believing or not believing in JHC. Presbyterians are as atheist a group of Christians as any and they are almost 90% incapable of dealing with racial reality. The crazy funnymentals who believe the universe was created in 7 days at least used to try to ban interracial dating at Bob Jones U.

How do I know Mr Rodgers was a Presby? I've had my Presby kin remind me about a thousand times is how. Let me know if I'm wrong about that.

No I dont trashbin them. I've pointed out in the "nuke NYC" discussion repeatedly. That doesnt prevent me from criticizing them and this is the place to do it. You ought to do the same.

The last time I went to my Presby church years ago I grew up in the minister said MLK was a saint. Fucking outrageous. People need to wake up. How do you propose people to get their without criticism?

Presbyterians are notorious hand-wringers. I went to their services for awhile for a change of pace. Paint, Drying. I like my old RC pomp and ritual.
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Criticism is a good thing. Slandering everything that one holds dear is not. I can't say that I'm sympathetic to WN, but you make some vaild points. You just have to get rid of the ravers. It puts people off.

Well your most of the Bishops and most of the flock of your Catholic Church in America is Jew brainwashed and trying its damndest to look like a Protestant Church. The "pomp and ritual" has been vastly depleted by the iconoclastic Vat2. Instead of wasting your time here why dont you go fight the Jewlovers who are responsible for that? I was just reading the abominable self-glorifying autobiography of one Ted Heshburg "God Country Notre Dame" and his constant bragging about fighting Rome whilst chumming with American Jews and Judeophiles. You wont achieve that by throwing stones at so called racists. Drive the Jews out of your Temple first before you start on the log in our eye.

As for the ravers many of them are trolls. Some of them are engaging in "performance art" to make a point. Some of them are just really fucking pissed. I dont care. I'm looking downrange and you dont need to be providing cover for Jews. So why are you doing that eh? Or trying to? Are a Ganelon?

I think you are Alex Linder. The personality shifts are sometimes extraordinary. Then there are the amount of posts and the references to how great this forum is, praising Alex, urging people to support it. ...Keystone

No. You are not the first to say this. Before it was Redbaron. That is an error and it is refuted by Alex himself. You can see this in the thread about the Topeka Brown v Board demonstration. But I will take your misunderstanding as a compliment.

Alex is a friend, and I support VNN. I praise Alex here because I think he is a sharp intellect and wit and in VNN he is onto a winning strategy both to finger the Jew, erode false taboos, and recruit intellectuals to the right point of view on the Jew. I also enjoy the free debate unencumbered by false civility. I might like to see a little bit more ingroup civility at times from forum members but that has nothing to do with him. Finally, I think Alex brings or rather continues a legitimate critique of Christianity, in the same vein as Twain and Mencken and Wilde, on down to Revilo Oliver and WL Pierce. Although I do not fully agree with the critique, I think such critique is thought provoking and absolutely necessary to rid our religious community of Jewish control whether it occurs knowingly or not.

Finally Alex is a morally courageous individual to when it comes to speaking what he believes is the truth. I find this kind of truthtelling infectious virtue and I want it to spread to you my Aryan brothers. I am not one tenth afraid of the consequences of standing up for the truth as I was before VNN.

Overall I am happy to have found the website and support it accordingly.

You are clearly NOT catching on if you think that. I detect quite a difference in the two and Alex, at least, has said no to the same suggestion (perhaps made previously by you). I find no reason to disbelieve him. You seem eager to think that they are both some kind of Freudean manifestation. Are they playing games with your mind?
I think you are Alex Linder. The personality shifts are sometimes extraordinary. Then there are the amount of posts and the references to how great this forum is, praising Alex, urging people to support it.

Finally Catching On,

Keystone

I think you are Alex Linder. The personality shifts are sometimes extraordinary. Then there are the amount of posts and the references to how great this forum is, praising Alex, urging people to support it.

Finally Catching On,

Keystone

I'M ALEX LINDER!!!

This reminds me of a scene from the movie Spartacus back in the 60's starring Kirk Douglas. I know Douglas is a jew but that ain't the point. He's playing the part of an Aryan who leads a slave revolt against a tyrannical omnipotent Rome.

Spartacus's army of slaves has been defeated by the Roman consul Crassus. The penalty awaiting every one of the former slaves is death by crucifixion. Crassus puts out the offer that all of them will be spared and returned to their lives as slaves if just one of them will identify the living body or the corpse of their leader, Spartacus. As Spartacus is about to stand to identify himself, the man next to him quickly shouts, "I'm Spartacus." Another stands up and cries out, "No, I'm Spartacus." And in a few short seconds every man is on his feet calling out, "I'm Spartacus!"

It may well be the most heroic scene in all of motion pictures. Maybe the most heroic scene in all of fiction.

Point Keystone? We're all Alex Linders here! Maybe even you!

Remember the " Keystone's Awakening" thread, started by Doppel? Went on almost all night. Guess what I get in my email inbox the next day? Some message from a resident from the Congo asking for contributions for his faction of revolutionaries. One time only. Never again. Where do you think that came from? When I registered at VNN forum I gave a real email address, much to my chagrin. Either A. Linder or his minions used my confidential email address for some BS harrassment. I don't really care, but it's the principle that counts.

ever heard of the post hoc propter hoc logical fallacy?

Spartacus was a classic. Best acting Kirk Douglas ever did. I could never believe Tony Curtis as a rebel, though. "I am a singah of sowngs". Too NY jewish.

LOL! Yeah, thats the first thing I thought when I saw Bernie Schwartz aka Tony Curtis in Spartacus.

I don't think AE is Linder. But Dopplehaken once noted that AE never has his PM or email engaged. Not that that is a clue or anything it's just a little strange for a bright dedicated guy like AE not to want to be contacted by other WN's.

Heck Keystone, maybe you and me are the only real persons here and everybody else is 50 or 60 manifestations of the diabolical Linder. Heh heh!

Conspiracy ITZ!

Remember the " Keystone's Awakening" thread, started by Doppel? Went on almost all night. Guess what I get in my email inbox the next day? Some message from a resident from the Congo asking for contributions for his faction of revolutionaries. One time only. Never again. Where do you think that came from? When I registered at VNN forum I gave a real email address, much to my chagrin. Either A. Linder or his minions used my confidential email address for some BS harrassment. I don't really care, but it's the principle that counts.

Maybe the people in Congo just love you? :cool:

I'm sure its the same for Congo. I got one from the alleged brother of the recently deposed head nigger of Liberia. Read this link and try the new internet sport of baiting the con-artists:
http://www.savannahsays.com/kizombe.htm

Remember the " Keystone's Awakening" thread, started by Doppel? Went on almost all night. Guess what I get in my email inbox the next day? Some message from a resident from the Congo asking for contributions for his faction of revolutionaries. One time only. Never again. Where do you think that came from? When I registered at VNN forum I gave a real email address, much to my chagrin. Either A. Linder or his minions used my confidential email address for some BS harrassment. I don't really care, but it's the principle that counts.

He gives new meaning to the phrase, soft-headed. A regular Reginald Denny, his marshmallow head exposed for the caresses of his black "friends". Mr. Rogers would be proud of his confection.
Keystone thinks he pretty slick, alright. He said Yehudi wasn't a kike and he was playing us all like violins, and then Yehudi shot back that he was a jew and proud and that he was actually eating matzo at that very moment. It was passover.

I fell out with laughter. That was the one time you made me laugh, Keystone, and how about responding to my last post?

I'm envious of AE. When is someone going to accuse me of writing like Alex Linder!? Are you listening, Steve?

BTW, Keystone, you are most definitely not "Finally Catching On."

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Is Keystone still around? He was famous for holding barbeques with silverback guests.