Gabrielle
December 9th, 2003, 08:02 PM
Wacky ErikD from the Milky Way has been awarded the grand prize of 'VNN Wacko Award' for being the most wacked-out poster! *Clap clap, clap...*
I have posted the message for which ErikD was awarded this great honor - read it, believe it, and keep the hell away from this lunatic. Congratulations, Wacky ErikD! ;)
ErikD
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Milky Way
Quote: Originally Posted by FadeTheButcher
In proof by ordeal the odds were weighted heavily against the defendent. In the ordeal of hot iron the defendent was required to grasp a red hot piece of metal. His hand was then bandaged, and if after three days the burns were on the way to being healed, the defendent was innocent, otherwise he was guilty. The ordeal of hot water worked similarly: The defendent was made to put his arm into a caldron of boiling water and lift a stone from the bottom; his arm was then bandaged and in three days it was inspected to decide his guilt or innocence.
What's interesting to note is that this method, as primitive and barbaric as it is, may actually have worked. The power of the subconscious mind is known to be able to increase the rate of wound healing through suggestion, so perhaps this method actually worked by through the power of suggestion?
Shock, trauma or pain is known to make the mind much more suggestable, so perhaps the pain put the person into a very suggestable state, and then the dual suggestion was planted that if the person was innocent, they would heal, and if guilty, they would not, and then the subconscious mind was left to carry out the appropriate physical response?
This seems to be a possibility from what I've read of the mind/body connection and the power of suggestion.
Quote: The ordeal of cold water was a favorite in England, where there were numerous rivers and brooks. The defendent was tied hand and foot and thrown into water; if he sank he was innocent, and if he floated he was guilty, on the premise that water, a divine element, would not receive a guilty person.
This is just bizarre. Perhaps the same mechanism as above could work, with the persons lungs controlled by the subconscious mind through the autonomic nervous system to determine the amount of air in the lungs?
I'd be more than a little reluctant to test this thesis. I hope they would at least pull the innocent people off the riverbed so they could enjoy their 'innocence'?
I have posted the message for which ErikD was awarded this great honor - read it, believe it, and keep the hell away from this lunatic. Congratulations, Wacky ErikD! ;)
ErikD
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Milky Way
Quote: Originally Posted by FadeTheButcher
In proof by ordeal the odds were weighted heavily against the defendent. In the ordeal of hot iron the defendent was required to grasp a red hot piece of metal. His hand was then bandaged, and if after three days the burns were on the way to being healed, the defendent was innocent, otherwise he was guilty. The ordeal of hot water worked similarly: The defendent was made to put his arm into a caldron of boiling water and lift a stone from the bottom; his arm was then bandaged and in three days it was inspected to decide his guilt or innocence.
What's interesting to note is that this method, as primitive and barbaric as it is, may actually have worked. The power of the subconscious mind is known to be able to increase the rate of wound healing through suggestion, so perhaps this method actually worked by through the power of suggestion?
Shock, trauma or pain is known to make the mind much more suggestable, so perhaps the pain put the person into a very suggestable state, and then the dual suggestion was planted that if the person was innocent, they would heal, and if guilty, they would not, and then the subconscious mind was left to carry out the appropriate physical response?
This seems to be a possibility from what I've read of the mind/body connection and the power of suggestion.
Quote: The ordeal of cold water was a favorite in England, where there were numerous rivers and brooks. The defendent was tied hand and foot and thrown into water; if he sank he was innocent, and if he floated he was guilty, on the premise that water, a divine element, would not receive a guilty person.
This is just bizarre. Perhaps the same mechanism as above could work, with the persons lungs controlled by the subconscious mind through the autonomic nervous system to determine the amount of air in the lungs?
I'd be more than a little reluctant to test this thesis. I hope they would at least pull the innocent people off the riverbed so they could enjoy their 'innocence'?