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Vince
04-14-2004, 10:03 AM
Suppose you were trying to spread the word about WN and how jews are dangerous for whites, and someone said jews themselves are white. What would you say in response to that?

Antiochus Epiphanes
04-14-2004, 10:19 AM
White is a common term whose usage means more than skin color. A White is a person of wholly European ancestry. Jews have an origin in Palestine not Europe. Genetic research confirms this and their endogamous practices have preserved them as a separate ethnic entity comparable to the Roma. Longtime alien residents of Europe, not Europeans.

Also White suggests a cultural dimension. Jews have since the time of the destruction of the Temple by the Romans, defined themselves by their obstinate hatred for Greco-Roman culture of which they view Jesus as a part. Here and there they outwardly have assimilated themselves to western forms but so far as they have remained consciously "Jews" they have defined themselves consciously as non-Westerners, and so non-White.

A conscious practicioner of Judaism, or a secular Jew who actively retains a "Jewish identity," is a virulent alien influence and must be ejected from our society. For nearly two thousand years Europeans asked the Jews only for assimilation. Assimilation never happened. What has happened instead is that Euros have assimilated far too much of the Jew. It is a late stage in our organic life and rejection of the Jew must either happen or it will spell our finish. Right now cataclysmic war with the billion Muslims on the Earth is being fomented by the Jews and we either stop the insanity by rejecting Jewish leadership and presence in the West or we are done. Therein you have the key to the Jewish strategy: use their "Whiteness" ie, exploitative relationship and outward phenotypic similarity to Westerners to trick us into being slaves of burden for their global conquest.

The odds are against us but Nature assures existence to nobody and nothing. Start now with small attainable objectives and daily work and never quit. This struggle will be the crucible that either destroys us or refines out our impurities and turns us into a finer metal.

Billy Bob
04-14-2004, 11:27 AM
The term "whites" as used to describe a "group" like blacks, browns, yellows, and reds, most certainly refers to "skin color" only. Your personal definition of the term is most certainly in the minority when compared with "world" opinion. Most equate the term with skin color, whether you are aware of that fact or not.

Not being specific when we carelesslessly use the term "whites" causes much of the confusion, division, and misguided argumentation.

Wouldn't you agree?

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]White is a common term whose usage means more than skin color. A White is a person of wholly European ancestry. Jews have an origin in Palestine not Europe. Genetic research confirms this and their endogamous practices have preserved them as a separate ethnic entity comparable to the Roma. Longtime alien residents of Europe, not Europeans.

Also White suggests a cultural dimension. Jews have since the time of the destruction of the Temple by the Romans, defined themselves by their obstinate hatred for Greco-Roman culture of which they view Jesus as a part. Here and there they outwardly have assimilated themselves to western forms but so far as they have remained consciously "Jews" they have defined themselves consciously as non-Westerners, and so non-White.

A conscious practicioner of Judaism, or a secular Jew who actively retains a "Jewish identity," is a virulent alien influence and must be ejected from our society. For nearly two thousand years Europeans asked the Jews only for assimilation. Assimilation never happened. What has happened instead is that Euros have assimilated far too much of the Jew. It is a late stage in our organic life and rejection of the Jew must either happen or it will spell our finish. Right now cataclysmic war with the billion Muslims on the Earth is being fomented by the Jews and we either stop the insanity by rejecting Jewish leadership and presence in the West or we are done. Therein you have the key to the Jewish strategy: use their "Whiteness" ie, exploitative relationship and outward phenotypic similarity to Westerners to trick us into being slaves of burden for their global conquest.

The odds are against us but Nature assures existence to nobody and nothing. Start now with small attainable objectives and daily work and never quit. This struggle will be the crucible that either destroys us or refines out our impurities and turns us into a finer metal.[/QUOTE]

Antiochus Epiphanes
04-14-2004, 12:11 PM
[QUOTE=Billy Bob]The term "whites" as used to describe a "group" like blacks, browns, yellows, and reds, most certainly refers to "skin color" only. Your personal definition of the term is most certainly in the minority when compared with "world" opinion. Most equate the term with skin color, whether you are aware of that fact or not.

Not being specific when we carelesslessly use the term "whites" causes much of the confusion, division, and misguided argumentation.

Wouldn't you agree?[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm not using it carelessly just because I define it differently. If it just means phenotypic lightness of skin, ok. That may be all the average person thinks. In some places that might be a reasonable basis for social organization like in deepest Africa. But here that is an oversimplification.

Much of the discussion here revolves around this topic whether it is "what is a jew" or "med vs nord" debate. I'm trying to both point out that the term has a certain flexibility to it which is defined by social context, and also suggest a certain understanding of "White" for purposes of White Americans.

Billy Bob
04-14-2004, 12:17 PM
Especially when you are talking to whites about whites! I think that "Northern European White Ancestry" or some other descriptive adjectives could help to break through the "skin-color only" designation of Whites. David Duke is Hitting a Homer with Euro, Wouldn't you agree?
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Well, I'm not using it carelessly just because I define it differently. If it just means phenotypic lightness of skin, ok. That may be all the average person thinks. In some places that might be a reasonable basis for social organization like in deepest Africa. But here that is an oversimplification.

Much of the discussion here revolves around this topic whether it is "what is a jew" or "med vs nord" debate. I'm trying to both point out that the term has a certain flexibility to it which is defined by social context, and also suggest a certain understanding of "White" for purposes of White Americans.[/QUOTE]

Antiochus Epiphanes
04-14-2004, 12:46 PM
[QUOTE=Billy Bob]Especially when you are talking to whites about whites! I think that "Northern European White Ancestry" or some other descriptive adjectives could help to break through the "skin-color only" designation of Whites. David Duke is Hitting a Homer with Euro, Wouldn't you agree?[/QUOTE]

I like Euro, and I have a problem with excluding southern europeans including for the fact I'm a quarter Greek. Also, I admire ancient Greece and Rome and medieval Spain. So Euro fits well.

but again, I think we need to appreciate that we're not just talking about biology any more than we're talking about mere phenotype.

Billy Bob
04-14-2004, 12:50 PM
I would be curious as to exactly which countries you would designate as Northern European. Also, How would you classify the other European Countries? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]I like Euro, and I have a problem with excluding southern europeans including for the fact I'm a quarter Greek. Also, I admire ancient Greece and Rome and medieval Spain. So Euro fits well.

but again, I think we need to appreciate that we're not just talking about biology any more than we're talking about mere phenotype.[/QUOTE]

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 01:00 PM
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]I like Euro, and I have a problem with excluding southern europeans including for the fact I'm a quarter Greek. Also, I admire ancient Greece and Rome and medieval Spain. So Euro fits well.

but again, I think we need to appreciate that we're not just talking about biology any more than we're talking about mere phenotype.[/QUOTE]


Oh, but why admire any of that, Antiochus? don't you know all Meds - except the "blond, blue eyed Romans" - are half nigger? The only important Greeks were really Scandinavians...or wait, "North European Whites". And St. Nicholas was perhaps a Swede, with a Greek name, stranded out in Byzantium...

No white person ever came from the Near East.

Ever.

Wasn't that cute, though? "Especially when you are talking to whites about whites! I think that 'Northern European White Ancestry' or some other descriptive adjectives..."—I love how they slip things like that in, and shuffle in a place for "some other"(s) afterward. These pitiable nordists suffer from a hardly supportable megalomania, fostered by some pretty terrible old scholarship; and when 'Meds', rightly exasperated, try to defend their obviously superior history and more ancient place in the European race continuum, these nords cry about "getting along, but being separate", as though *WE* instigated their vicious, lying, stupid bigotry! Ah, it's too much, and if one thing turns me off to collaboration with other WNs, it's this retarded nordist bigotry.

Anyway, I myself have used 'Euro' for a while. The term should indicate more than a damn currency. But again, these boneheads don't understand the concept of alliance, unless it's when they can make us seem like whiny hypochondriacs who should "just get along" with their endless, lying idiocy.

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 01:04 PM
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]I like Euro, and I have a problem with excluding southern europeans including for the fact I'm a quarter Greek. Also, I admire ancient Greece and Rome and medieval Spain. So Euro fits well.

but again, I think we need to appreciate that we're not just talking about biology any more than we're talking about mere phenotype.[/QUOTE]


And recall, of course, that the only nations of the EU to reject the Euro -- were "Nordic".

Nordblod
04-14-2004, 01:07 PM
[QUOTE=MrOutis]Oh, but why admire any of that, Antiochus? don't you know all Meds - except the "blond, blue eyed Romans" - are half nigger? The only important Greeks were really Scandinavians...or wait, "North European Whites". And St. Nicholas was perhaps a Swede, with a Greek name, stranded out in Byzantium...

No white person ever came from the Near East.

Ever.

Wasn't that cute, though? "Especially when you are talking to whites about whites! I think that 'Northern European White Ancestry' or some other descriptive adjectives..."—I love how they slip things like that in, and shuffle in a place for "some other"(s) afterward. These pitiable nordists suffer from a hardly supportable megalomania, fostered by some pretty terrible old scholarship; and when 'Meds', rightly exasperated, try to defend their obviously superior history and more ancient place in the European race continuum, these nords cry about "getting along, but being separate", as though *WE* instigated their vicious, lying, stupid bigotry! Ah, it's too much, and if one thing turns me off to collaboration with other WNs, it's this retarded nordist bigotry.

Anyway, I myself have used 'Euro' for a while. The term should indicate more than a damn currency. But again, these boneheads don't understand the concept of alliance, unless it's when they can make us seem like whiny hypochondriacs who should "just get along" with their endless, lying idiocy.[/QUOTE]


Then why don't you give us YOUR superbly conceived definition of "the concept of alliance"?

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 01:15 PM
[QUOTE=Nordblod]Then why don't you give us YOUR superbly conceived definition of "the concept of alliance"?[/QUOTE]

I'd rather not. You're one of the bonehead squad, so anything impinging upon your self-perceived independence is immediately rejected as a taint. You'll decry "southern" white or decent non-white nations/peoples until we're all licking nigger feet, though. It will be our common funeral, and even when our entire race is lying in the pit of historical death, you'll probably want your corpses moved clearly to one side, paranoid and stupid as always.

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 01:24 PM
[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]I like Euro, and I have a problem with excluding southern europeans including for the fact I'm a quarter Greek. Also, I admire ancient Greece and Rome and medieval Spain. So Euro fits well.

but again, I think we need to appreciate that we're not just talking about biology any more than we're talking about mere phenotype.[/QUOTE]


And hey, thanks for your kind words in the reader mail. Not that I needed Mr. McCarthy to tell me about Nechaiev, but that article of his was very timely—reminding me that, for my purposes, "fish" are irrelevant, and more often than not simply poisonous. Time to reel in my line, so to speak.

Nordblod
04-14-2004, 01:25 PM
It's reassuring to know that there are people out there who understand the innermost workings of one's soul - give's one hope that some Divine Will might be at work, after all.

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 01:33 PM
[QUOTE=Nordblod]It's reassuring to know that there are people out there who understand the innermost workings of one's soul - give's one hope that some Divine Will might be at work, after all.[/QUOTE]

If so, I am sure that Divine Will is from Norway.

Nordblod
04-14-2004, 01:35 PM
Now that's just stupid.

Everybody knows that Norwegians are of no account in the grander scheme of things.

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 03:53 PM
[QUOTE=norcalnative1971][SIZE=3]Please leave the Racial Science to those of us who know what the Hell we're talking about. Try reading Carleton Coon's The Races of Europe and get back to us once you have a mild grasp on the subject.

Blue eyes were well known among the Sumerians, and "Nordic" features were seen often amongst the ancient Egyptians. There is no reason to believe these were not autochthonous traits, and not merely minor influence from slaves or other imports.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Oh god. You are the biggest bonehead, yet.

MrOutis
04-14-2004, 03:55 PM
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BrightonWNP
04-14-2004, 09:48 PM
[QUOTE=Vince]Suppose you were trying to spread the word about WN and how jews are dangerous for whites, and someone said jews themselves are white. What would you say in response to that?[/QUOTE]

I am going to state the obvious here. I tell them to FUCK OFF!

A6 Intruder
04-14-2004, 10:21 PM
From a Two Seedline Christian Identity perspective.

Yes some Jews are white in skin tone. But they are NOT Aryan and more importantly they are NOT of the Israelites spoken of in Biblical scripture. These Jews who appear to be white are in fact the tares Christ speaks of in Matthew 13

"24": Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

"25": But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

"26": But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

"27": So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

"28": He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

"29": But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

"30": Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Then a but farther Christ explains the meaning of the parable...

"36": Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

"37": He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

"38": The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

"39": The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

"40": As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

"41": The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

"42": And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

If you have never listened to this sermon by Pastor Redfeairn titled "the Holy Holocaust" I suggest that you do. Most powerful !

http://www.churchofthesonsofyhvh.org/the_holy_holocaust.htm