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jelling55
04-16-2004, 02:20 AM
If you could ask God any question (or otherwise know the answer), what would it be?
For example, Why is their evil in the world?
Or, Why must innocent people suffer? (like children with birth defects)
Or, What is the purpose of life?
Or, Why are there different races?
thanks.
Alex Linder
04-16-2004, 02:40 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Why, Almighty God, must we have pointless threads?
Why, O Lord, can we not segregate morons from publicly bleating idiocy?
Why, Gracious Creator, hast Thou scourged the world with the curse of judeo-christianity, judaism and islam?[/QUOTE]
Possibilities the Bible buhliever would never consider, but make more sense than the Bible:
1) warm-up
2) God as "low comedian" - Mencken; similar view in Twain's Mysterious Stranger
3) God as sadist
Average people cannot imagine God as a joker because they are humorless and without imagination. The Bible has not one intentionally funny thing in 2,000 pages. Think Southron's mentality and you have Bible mentality perfectly. Vicious, bitter, paranoid -- dare I say, jewy?
Georgie
04-16-2004, 02:42 AM
Where do babies come from? :D
Chris.V
04-16-2004, 03:34 AM
I would of course make the comment about him burning the niggers in the big "oven of life", and why he "graced" us with theyre untolerable presence. ;)
Exterminance
04-16-2004, 03:44 AM
[QUOTE=jelling55]If you could ask God any question (or otherwise know the answer), what would it be?
For example, Why is their evil in the world?
Or, Why must innocent people suffer? (like children with birth defects)
Or, What is the purpose of life?
Or, Why are there different races?
thanks.[/QUOTE]
Questions in general are so easy to answer, one need hardly look for a god to answer them.
1) If there were no evil in the world, there would be no good. Just as there can be no light without darkness for it to dispel, there can be no darkness without light for it to dim.
2) a) Innocence is insignificant in this question because everyone must suffer. Suffering is an important factor in life and living; it builds character and strengthens those who survive it. b) Evolution is based upon mutation. Birth defects are usually non-beneficial mutations which ought to lead to the defect's demise, or at least inability to reproduce, thus preventing the useless genes from passing on to another generation.
3) Life is for living. The object of living is to live, and for as long as possible at that. Since immortality is difficult to attain, most life forms compensate for their own individual deaths by reproducing before they die, thus living on in their children and race.
4) There are different races because humanity's common ancestor divided into groups that travelled into different areas which had different environments, and each environment affected the evolution of the group of ancestral humans which migrated thereunto differently. Ice Age Europe, for example, was the womb which forged the Aryan race. Our most distant primate ancestors in Africa were likely quadrupedal, similar to the baboon. Walking erect evolved as a means of radiating excess heat in the scorching African sun. However, Ice Age Europe was exceedingly cold. Instead of evolving back onto all fours, in an attempt to huddle down and thus retain heat, we evolved to become hairier than the average race - hence longer beards than most other races grow, and hairier legs - and we learnt how to make warm clothing, plus a number of other inventions. Struggling against a harsh environment caused us to evolve greater brains, in order to think up means of coping with that environment. Thus, eventually, we became the parents of invention and the authors of civilization.
See, no god necessary.
jelling55
04-16-2004, 09:34 AM
Exterminance,
Thank you for your serious reply. While I was actually looking for what other peoples questions were, your answers to the examples I posed where still appreciated.
You mentioned evolution was based on mutation, which most people rightly consider to be driven by 'random changes'. There is a problem with this, being - what decides randomness? This is known, not surprisingly, as "the randomness problem".
What would be your answer to: What decides which random mutations will appear?
thanks.
jelling55
04-16-2004, 09:36 AM
[QUOTE=Chris.V]I would of course make the comment about him burning the niggers in the big "oven of life", and why he "graced" us with theyre untolerable presence. ;)[/QUOTE]
Chris thats a good question (which I think Exterminance answered well enough).
thanks.
jelling55
04-16-2004, 09:42 AM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Why, Almighty God, must we have pointless threads?
Why, O Lord, can we not segregate morons from publicly bleating idiocy?
Why, Gracious Creator, hast Thou scourged the world with the curse of judeo-christianity, judaism and islam?[/QUOTE]
Hi Vlad,
I realize you can't see the validity of this thread. Perhaps I should have said "god" or "gods" instead of "God". Or maybe just said, "What would you want to know if you could know anything?".
thanks.
Judeocritic
04-16-2004, 02:54 PM
[QUOTE=jelling55]What decides which random mutations will appear?[/QUOTE]Immutable physical forces; “randomness” describes hyperanthropic complexity—a resultant whose processes are unfathomably complex, but not on that account subject to alien mutation (Heisenberg uncertainty aside*).
What decides, therefore, in a given mutation has been inscribed in things since their inception; the First Mover, however, [font=Arial Unicode MS,Palatino Linotype,New Athena Unicode,Athena Unicode,Aisa Unicode,Code2000,Vusillus Old Face Italic,Titus Cyberbit Basic,Georgia Greek Unicode]ταὐτόματον[/font], is responsible for the things which are, that they are.
Compare Carl Friedrich Zelter's estimation of J.S. Bach:“Eine Erscheinung Gottes: klar, doch unerklärbar.”Bach, similar to Alex Linder, is in this sense a First Mover: cock-master of the ex nihilo.
* Heisenberg no Jew: http://www.aish.com/holocaust/overview/Scientific_Jew_Hatred.asp
Exterminance
04-16-2004, 05:47 PM
[QUOTE=jelling55]Exterminance,
Thank you for your serious reply. While I was actually looking for what other peoples questions were, your answers to the examples I posed where still appreciated.
You mentioned evolution was based on mutation, which most people rightly consider to be driven by 'random changes'. There is a problem with this, being - what decides randomness? This is known, not surprisingly, as "the randomness problem".
What would be your answer to: What decides which random mutations will appear?
thanks.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking that RNA make the occasional hiccup while attempting to duplicate a strand of DNA, thus resulting in mutation.
P.S. If I can think of any serious questions, I'll post them here. I don't know everything and therefore I must have some questions.
jelling55
04-16-2004, 06:22 PM
Hello Exterminance,
You're correct that it's imperfections in the copying of DNA that create mutations. An interesting fact is, these mutations can either be good or bad for the organism - and as the organism becomes more complex, it's harder to improve on it, and more easy to screw it up. The "low hanging fruit" is picked first, and further improvements take more time to discover.
thanks.
sean(doc)martin
12-30-2004, 04:53 AM
[QUOTE=Alex Linder]The Bible has not one intentionally funny thing in 2,000 pages.[/QUOTE]
There is a lot of humor in the bible it is just not up to date. Things they found funny are dry and humorless to us today. It is similar to an American trying to find humor in dry British humor.
Of course we have been so hardened by the Jews idea of humor that we cannot truly appreciate classic humor anymore unless something gross or disturbing is involved.
Anything funny would have been plagiarized over the centuries and by now would be so overplayed there would be no way we could find the obvious humor.
Psalms 126:2 *Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
Proverbs 17:22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine:
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