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Dethicus
04-17-2004, 11:45 AM
Serbians vs Albanians
Russia vs Chechnyans
USA vs Afghanistan, Iraq, and Al Quaida
India vs Pakistan
Israel vs Palestine
Indonesia vs muslim Indonesians
what do all these conflicts have in common? MUSLIMS FIGHTING NON-MUSLIM - and in every case the muslims use the same excuses for the violence "they stole our land" "they oppressed us" "it's rightfully ours" "blame whitey" - Personally I think all these excuses for terror are pure b.s.
Why do muslims cause so much violence? Look no further than the Koran:
"We have a prophet by whom we will conquer all men." (Ishaq:471)
"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters (non-muslims) wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent (convert to Islam) and keep up prayer (To allah) and pay the poor-rate (newly converted muslim tax), leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
(Koran 9:5)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
(Koran 9:29)
"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers (non-Muslims) who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)."
(Koran 9:123)
"O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
(Koran 5:51)
"O ye who believe! Take not for friends Unbelievers (non-Muslims) rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
(Koran 4:144)
"Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the Unbelievers (non-Muslims). Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result), that Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide."
(Koran 5:80)
When muslims outnumber non-muslims in Europe dont expect to be treated equally as muslims, because according to the Koran non-muslims must be treated as second class citizens. In countries like Holland the nightmare of a muslim foothold in Europe is soon to become a reality.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 12:00 PM
Judaism is a religion of war.
Examples: Torah, Talmud, World War I, World War II, World Wars III and IV.
I would like to hear your response, Dethicus.
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 12:16 PM
why do you poser WN's try to protect the half nigger muslims so much? are you guys just libs who hate Jews because of the whole Israel/palestine conflict? (most libs take palestines side because the kikes baby cock suckers are more white than the camel fucking carpet jockey sand niggers)
makes me wonder how many of you are even white...
Judaism isnt a religion of war, it's a religion of back stabbing, infiltrating other cultures, ruining them, and then stealing their goods. Thats how I see the kike religion - infiltrate, ruin culture, and take.
both kikes and sand niggers are the same, they both come from the same shit hole, the middle east - it's a shame you posers have such a soft spot for the sand niggers even though they're the ones attacking the west in the present day.
dont get me wrong, I hate kikes a well, i realize they're the commies, they're the ones who changed AmeriKKKa to America. I know exactly what those kikes did.
As a kike rabbi said over 100 years ago. "Wars are the jews harvest, for with them will kill the goyim and take their gold."
Notice how the bloodthirsty jewasites are trying to make this into a religious war against Islam. The Arabs hate us because we're there and because of the cancerous jew tumor in Pissrael. The jewasites really want to see millions of gentiles and Arabs killing each other. That'll make the jooz feel good. You're sick, jew. Do you know it, yet?
Exterminance
04-17-2004, 12:46 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Why do muslims cause so much violence? Look no further than the Koran:
"We have a prophet by whom we will conquer all men." (Ishaq:471)[/QUOTE]
There is no chapter in the Koran called 'Ishaq' and no chapter with 471 verses (the longest chapter in the Koran has only 286 verses).
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 12:56 PM
You can take it elsewhere. You will find no ardent "Christian Soldiers" here to join your crusade. If it weren't for your murderous tribe the US would have no enemies in the Middle East. Religion of war or not, we had no quarrel with Muslims until the neocons manufactured it.
What special interest group was instrumental in bringing all those Muslims into Europe and the US? What group openly states that diversity is good for them? Its amusing that now all the mud that the Tribe worked so hard to bring into White lands is turning against them. Your own tikkuning is biting you in the ass. Har har
![QUOTE=Dethicus]Serbians vs Albanians
Russia vs Chechnyans
USA vs Afghanistan, Iraq, and Al Quaida
India vs Pakistan
Israel vs Palestine
Indonesia vs muslim Indonesians
what do all these conflicts have in common? MUSLIMS FIGHTING NON-MUSLIM - and in every case the muslims use the same excuses for the violence "they stole our land" "they oppressed us" "it's rightfully ours" "blame whitey" - Personally I think all these excuses for terror are pure b.s.
Why do muslims cause so much violence? Look no further than the Koran:
"We have a prophet by whom we will conquer all men." (Ishaq:471)
"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters (non-muslims) wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent (convert to Islam) and keep up prayer (To allah) and pay the poor-rate (newly converted muslim tax), leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
(Koran 9:5)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
(Koran 9:29)
"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers (non-Muslims) who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)."
(Koran 9:123)
"O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
(Koran 5:51)
"O ye who believe! Take not for friends Unbelievers (non-Muslims) rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"
(Koran 4:144)
"Thou seest many of them turning in friendship to the Unbelievers (non-Muslims). Evil indeed are (the works) which their souls have sent forward before them (with the result), that Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide."
(Koran 5:80)
When muslims outnumber non-muslims in Europe dont expect to be treated equally as muslims, because according to the Koran non-muslims must be treated as second class citizens. In countries like Holland the nightmare of a muslim foothold in Europe is soon to become a reality.[/QUOTE]
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 01:02 PM
[QUOTE=Exterminance]There is no chapter in the Koran called 'Ishaq' and no chapter with 471 verses (the longest chapter in the Koran has only 286 verses).[/QUOTE]
Ishaq is a sand nigger prophet you buffoon.
Ishaq is the name of Isaac in the Quran, he is seen as a prophet in Islam.
Ishaq was the second son of Ibrahim by his first-wife Sarah. Islamic tradition holds that he was born nine years after Ishmael who was Ibrahim's son from his second-wife Hagar. He was born after Ibrahim attempted to slaughter Ishmael. Ishaq lived in Canaan and was made a prophet there. He was married at the age of 40. He also had two twin-sons, Yisau and Yaqub. As he grew older, he went blind. When he died, he was buried in Hebron along with his parents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq
Some more quotes from Ishaq Islams supposed "prophet":
Ishaq:204 “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him [color=red]we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”[/color]
Ishaq:322 [color=red]“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who reject Me. So strike off their heads and cut off their fingers. All who oppose Me and My Prophet shall be punished severely.”[/color]
Ishaq:316 “Following Badr, [color=red]Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive.”[/color] - Muhhamed himself was a terrorist.
Here's a nice quote:
Tabari VII:133/Ishaq:387 “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, ‘If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, [color=red]‘By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.”[/color]
Islam is a religion of war, death, and destruction. Stop trying to defend it.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 02:48 PM
There are as many bloodthirsty quotes in your Torah, Hymie.
Jack Napier
04-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Who cares if Islam is a warlike religion? Good for them, A martial mythos helps them to promote their own group interests. I’m sorry that 90% of White people are obsessed with a slave religion that promotes submission to enemies rather than destruction of enemies.
The only conflicts you mention that interests me are Serbians vs. Albanians and Russians vs. Chechens because they involve Muslims vs. White people. Adherents of Islam should be forcibly driven from all White territory and their violence ruthlessly quarantined to their own shitty corner of the world.
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=Jack Napier]Who cares if Islam is a warlike religion? Good for them, A martial mythos helps them to promote their own group interests. I’m sorry that 90% of White people are obsessed with a slave religion that promotes submission to enemies rather than destruction of enemies.
The only conflicts you mention that interests me are Serbians vs. Albanians and Russians vs. Chechens because they involve Muslims vs. White people. Adherents of Islam should be forcibly driven from all White territory and their violence ruthlessly quarantined to their own shitty corner of the world.[/QUOTE]
So USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan doesnt interest you? You dont think the USA is a white nation or something? Are you an America hater?
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/images/does.my.american.flag.offend.you.jpg
Seems like you got a bad case of motherland syndrome. Get some Pride, American pride, boy.
NW WILD CARD
04-17-2004, 04:32 PM
Here are some writings for those interested in learning about the muslum mindset:
http://www.aryanwomen.org/writings/reflections.htm
Written by "true reb" it is a good accounting of his time spent in Saudi Arabia .The arabs are no freinds of the white race just like the Jews. The main difference is the Jews are alot smarter. I used to think there could be some sort of arab/aryan alliance till I read True Reb's story. The jews are the enemies of all who are not jewish .Any alliance between arabs and aryans would be temporary at best im afraid.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Dethicus has two motherlands. One of them is the US, which he is happy to whore out for his true motherland, the nation of Israel. Dethicus can think of nothing better than American goy fighting Arabs for years to come. Its win-win for him and his hebrew kin.
Screw you, Jew. Wrap yourself in the kike flag, not mine.
[QUOTE=Dethicus]So USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan doesnt interest you? You dont think the USA is a white nation or something? Are you an America hater?
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/images/does.my.american.flag.offend.you.jpg
Seems like you got a bad case of motherland syndrome. Get some Pride, American pride, boy.[/QUOTE]
Subrosa
04-17-2004, 05:42 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]So USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan doesnt interest you? You dont think the USA is a white nation or something? Are you an America hater?
Seems like you got a bad case of motherland syndrome. Get some Pride, American pride, boy.[/QUOTE]
A fucking piece of shit JEW asking if we are America haters? Man that's hillarious.
Hey kike, why is it USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan? For that matter, why is it USA vs the entire world?
Because of you kike.
Subrosa
04-17-2004, 05:44 PM
This fucking kike comes in there play acting like he's some big bad white patriot, using fools patriotism to get white men to fight and die for Jews.
Man if that's not reason to gas the fuckers I don't know what is.
R MacDonald
04-17-2004, 07:29 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/images/does.my.american.flag.offend.you.jpg
[/QUOTE]
Now THERE'S a ZOG Trained puppet for you! LOL!
HERE'S MINE!
http://www.jastown.com/flags/fl-202.jpg
http://download-free-pictures.com/patriotic/pictures/betsy-ross-1.jpg
and then the PATRIOTS switched to THIS FLAG...
http://www.freedomforum.org/graphics/2000/06/illos/confederate.flag.flying.jpg
ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN WIPE YOUR ASS WITH!!! (IMNSHO)
Try this one...
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/images/bush_flag_small.jpg
[size=5]Now, Why don't you GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY... and take that JEW ASS LICKER with you!!!!!!!!!![/size]
sincerely,
R.MacDonald
18th Airborne Corps
U.S Army, Gulf War One
(read: JEW WAR)
Todd in FL
04-17-2004, 07:42 PM
Just my opinion.
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=Subrosa]A fucking piece of shit JEW asking if we are America haters? Man that's hillarious.
Hey kike, why is it USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan? For that matter, why is it USA vs the entire world?
Because of you kike.[/QUOTE]
the entire world is JEALOUS of the USA thats why. and dont fucking act like they arent.
Every nation on earth is Jealous of the USA's superpower status and you know it, I know it, we all know it.
And the entire world wouldnt dare attack the USA because they know we'd drop nukes on them so quick it wouldnt even be funn - USA is the only nation with the BALLS to use nukes.
The entire world is our bitch. Bow the fuck down foreigniggers.
I'm not a Jew, im an american nationalist.
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 09:23 PM
[QUOTE=Vlad]On the contrary the US has become increasingly pro-Israel and as a result increasingly resented by the world. The US was once admired, but in recent years has become despised by the world, mostly due to jews and zionism in particular.[/QUOTE]
you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
The entire world doesnt hate us for one, we still have very good relations with all our allies, and those who DO hate us, hate us because the USA represents 4% of the worlds population yet controls around 40%-60% of the entire worlds wealth.
They are jealous of us. YOU probably hate the USA for the reasons you stated but you arent the entire world.
Dethicus
04-17-2004, 10:00 PM
[QUOTE=Rounder] Muslims are enemies of the Jews, therefore our friends. [/QUOTE]
You are a race traiting sack of shit.
I guess you dont mind the fact that holland is almost 50% muslim? You dont mind the fact that France has a HUGE muslim population? You dont mind london looking like baghdad?
Get a fucking clue idiot. No wonder the white race is dying, idiots like you.
I guess you were happy when the sand niggers bombed us on 9/11? They killed about 2,500 white Americans on 9/11, some friends :rolleyes:
I guess you dont mind all the churches burning in Kosovo either. You dont mind muslims killing and stealing Russian land in Chechnya, you dont mind muslims having a civil war in order to take over Bosnia - WOW SOME FUCKING FRIENDS THESE SAND NIGGERS ARE!
You are obviously an American liberal leftist borderline commie and not a real WN.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 10:44 PM
Wormy Jew, read some more of this site and you will find why nobody here will fall in with your program. You and your fellow rat-jews must be dealt with before the Arabs. At this site that knowledge is universal. Piss off.
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You are a race traiting sack of shit.
I guess you dont mind the fact that holland is almost 50% muslim? You dont mind the fact that France has a HUGE muslim population? You dont mind london looking like baghdad?
Get a fucking clue idiot. No wonder the white race is dying, idiots like you.
I guess you were happy when the sand niggers bombed us on 9/11? They killed about 2,500 white Americans on 9/11, some friends :rolleyes:
I guess you dont mind all the churches burning in Kosovo either. You dont mind muslims killing and stealing Russian land in Chechnya, you dont mind muslims having a civil war in order to take over Bosnia - WOW SOME FUCKING FRIENDS THESE SAND NIGGERS ARE!
You are obviously an American liberal leftist borderline commie and not a real WN.[/QUOTE]
Exterminance
04-17-2004, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Ishaq is a sand nigger prophet you buffoon.
Ishaq is the name of Isaac in the Quran, he is seen as a prophet in Islam.
Ishaq was the second son of Ibrahim by his first-wife Sarah. Islamic tradition holds that he was born nine years after Ishmael who was Ibrahim's son from his second-wife Hagar. He was born after Ibrahim attempted to slaughter Ishmael. Ishaq lived in Canaan and was made a prophet there. He was married at the age of 40. He also had two twin-sons, Yisau and Yaqub. As he grew older, he went blind. When he died, he was buried in Hebron along with his parents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishaq
Some more quotes from Ishaq Islams supposed "prophet":
Ishaq:204 “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him [color=red]we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.’”[/color]
Ishaq:322 [color=red]“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who reject Me. So strike off their heads and cut off their fingers. All who oppose Me and My Prophet shall be punished severely.”[/color]
Ishaq:316 “Following Badr, [color=red]Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive.”[/color] - Muhhamed himself was a terrorist.
Here's a nice quote:
Tabari VII:133/Ishaq:387 “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, ‘If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, [color=red]‘By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.”[/color]
Islam is a religion of war, death, and destruction. Stop trying to defend it.[/QUOTE]
You said...
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Look no further than the Koran[/QUOTE]
... but it seems you are indeed looking further. These words of Ishaq are not from the Koran. If anything, they are from the Ahadith.
No matter how bad Islam may be, it is nothing compared to the machinations of the Jews. The Jews must be dealt with first and foremost, before the civilized world will even be free to deal with the Islamic threat.
Only Rock 'N' Roll
04-17-2004, 11:03 PM
WHY is Islam a problem for Whites today? As a result of mass population influxes into America, Europe and other White nations. I had an ignoramus flaggot say the other day that "if we don't stop them in Iraq, they might invade"! "They" already HAVE invaded, along with hordes of other non-Whites. And they didn't fire a single shot doing it, either. As a result of red-white-and-blue Christian Patriots who help elect corrupt, con-servative politicians, and as a result of that "other" Semitic religion, Christianity, which has afflicted our people, we are the only race on the planet without a sense of self or a will to live, AS A PEOPLE. Add to it the facts of America's secular faith, capitalism, which puts profits and the individual at the pinnacle, and you have the mess we have now. The Jews are really only doing what they do, feeding on the rotting flesh of a society which has already lost its will to live. Old Glory is a shroud, not a flag.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 11:12 PM
True, but those whites who still possess a Folk awareness and a will to help their people must fight on. It may yet be turned around.
And the cure begins with naming the disease: Jews.
[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]WHY is Islam a problem for Whites today? As a result of mass population influxes into America, Europe and other White nations. I had an ignoramus flaggot say the other day that "if we don't stop them in Iraq, they might invade"! "They" already HAVE invaded, along with hordes of other non-Whites. And they didn't fire a single shot doing it, either. As a result of red-white-and-blue Christian Patriots who help elect corrupt, con-servative politicians, and as a result of that "other" Semitic religion, Christianity, which has afflicted our people, we are the only race on the planet without a sense of self or a will to live, AS A PEOPLE. Add to it the facts of America's secular faith, capitalism, which puts profits and the individual at the pinnacle, and you have the mess we have now. The Jews are really only doing what they do, feeding on the rotting flesh of a society which has already lost its will to live. Old Glory is a shroud, not a flag.[/QUOTE]
Only Rock 'N' Roll
04-17-2004, 11:27 PM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]True, but those whites who still possess a Folk awareness and a will to help their people must fight on. It may yet be turned around.
And the cure begins with naming the disease: Jews.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree. One of our leading tasks is to get Whites off the idea that the system in the USA (or any nation) is "theirs." That means opposing the flag, George Junior and his twin Kerry, all of these stupid kosher conservative orgs like the "Christian Coalition" (as well staying off the sideline issues they love, like abortion, prayer in the schools, "god" in the "pledge of allegiance", not to mention Israel) and speaking out against the US role as an Israeli cat's paw in Iraq. Your use of the word "disease" sums it up: so many White "conservatives" would agree with us on race, yet are kept as stooges running around going after symptoms.
I honestly don't think whoever got this thread going is a Jew, necessarily. He reflects the myopia that afflicts so many "well-meaning" conservatives.
MOMUS
04-17-2004, 11:35 PM
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/index.html
this is the site he gets his doofus picture from, standard Judeo-Xian flag-waving, drum-beating crap. I didn't see any New Testament citations in the "God" section. That hints that its heavy on the "judeo" end of the scale.
Rock 'N' Roll]I totally agree. One of our leading tasks is to get Whites off the idea that the system in the USA (or any nation) is "theirs." That means opposing the flag, George Junior and his twin Kerry, all of these stupid kosher conservative orgs like the "Christian Coalition" (as well staying off the sideline issues they love, like abortion, prayer in the schools, "god" in the "pledge of allegiance", not to mention Israel) and speaking out against the US role as an Israeli cat's paw in Iraq. Your use of the word "disease" sums it up: so many White "conservatives" would agree with us on race, yet are kept as stooges running around going after symptoms.
I honestly don't think whoever got this thread going is a Jew, necessarily. He reflects the myopia that afflicts so many "well-meaning" conservatives.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dethicus]the entire world is JEALOUS of the USA thats why. and dont fucking act like they arent.[/QUOTE]
This is what the jewasites tell each other. The reason they're hated all over the world is because everyone is jealous. No, jew. You're hated because your hate, greed, deceit and self obsession is vile and repulsive.
Every nation on earth is Jealous of the USA's superpower status and you know it, I know it, we all know it.
Everyone hates the jew cancer. I know it, you know it, we all know it.
And the entire world wouldnt dare attack the USA because they know we'd drop nukes on them so quick it wouldnt even be funn - USA is the only nation with the BALLS to use nukes.
Your bloodlust is vile and repulsive, jew. We hate you, the world hates you, and you know it.
The entire world is our bitch. Bow the fuck down foreigniggers.
That's how the jewasites think, folks.
I'm not a Jew, im an american nationalist.
Isn't it funny that no matter how many times we tell you that you're a jew, you still have to deny it. Think about that, jew. Why are you so ashamed of being a jew that even on the internet you're afraid to say you're a jew?
Dethicus
04-18-2004, 12:59 AM
[QUOTE=Paul]This is what the jewasites tell each other. The reason they're hated all over the world is because everyone is jealous. No, jew. You're hated because your hate, greed, deceit and self obsession is vile and repulsive.
Every nation on earth is Jealous of the USA's superpower status and you know it, I know it, we all know it.[QUOTE]
Everyone hates the jew cancer. I know it, you know it, we all know it.
Your bloodlust is vile and repulsive, jew. We hate you, the world hates you, and you know it.
That's how the jewasites think, folks.
Isn't it funny that no matter how many times we tell you that you're a jew, you still have to deny it. Think about that, jew. Why are you so ashamed of being a jew that even on the internet you're afraid to say you're a jew?
Paul is a sand nigger lover. He's upset because I called the Islam exactly what it is - A religion of war.
Go put your diaper back on your head sand nigger, your shit for brains are spilling out of your mouth.
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 01:35 AM
You say you are not a jew. You want to kill doon-coons. At least you want someone to kill them. You want other young Americans to do that. For how long? How many? All of them? What does America get from that but bodies and debt? Who benefits?
How about a clean sweep and do the same for the other pesky tribe of Semites? The ones who have done genuine harm to our country for decades? Are you "down" with that?
What other peoples would you have US slaughter, the French? Germans? Spaniards, now that they see the light?
Tell the forum more about yourself and your patriotic plans.
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Paul is a sand nigger lover. He's upset because I called the Islam exactly what it is - A religion of war.
Go put your diaper back on your head sand nigger, your shit for brains are spilling out of your mouth.[/QUOTE]
Dethicus
04-18-2004, 01:39 AM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]You say you are not a jew. You want to kill doon-coons. At least you want someone to kill them. You want other young Americans to do that. For how long? How many? All of them? What does America get from that but bodies and debt? Who benefits?
How about a clean sweep and do the same for the other pesky tribe of Semites? The ones who have done genuine harm to our country for decades? Are you "down" with that?
What other peoples would you have US slaughter, the French? Germans? Spaniards, now that they see the light?
Tell the forum more about yourself and your patriotic plans.[/QUOTE]
You dont seem to understand, I want the USA to take over the world. That includes all the sand nigger countries. The kike country, and every other nation outside the USA.
Here's the good we get from taking over middle eastern countries - we get to control the worlds oil supply. So if there is ever a World War 3, the USA will dictate who gets oil and who doesnt - AN ENEMY CANNOT RUN A WAR MACHINE WITHOUT OIL therefore any war against the USA would be a futile war of attrition.
The USA is already on the way to world domination - The USA is building the mother fucking DEATH STAR on the FRIKKEN MOON - We're taking over the worlds oil supply, if all goes well, every nation will just give up cause they KNOW they wont stand a chance against us.
Subrosa
04-18-2004, 01:41 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Paul is a sand nigger lover. He's upset because I called the Islam exactly what it is - A religion of war.
Go put your diaper back on your head sand nigger, your shit for brains are spilling out of your mouth.[/QUOTE]
Paul is a white Patriot, not a kike parasite like you, feeding off the patriotism of misguided lemmings.
Dethicus
04-18-2004, 01:43 AM
[QUOTE=Subrosa]Paul is a white Patriot, not a kike parasite like you, feeding off the patriotism of misguided lemmings.[/QUOTE]
no, he's not a white patriot. He's a sissy liberal who hates Jews because they look more white than sand niggers.
I know his kind.
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 01:47 AM
If you are not a Jew then you are an idiot. Do you know where the capitol of this New World Order hegemony you dream of will be? If you think Washington then you are a fool.
You dream of bowing to Jerusalem, stooge.
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You dont seem to understand, I want the USA to take over the world. That includes all the sand nigger countries. The kike country, and every other nation outside the USA.
Here's the good we get from taking over middle eastern countries - we get to control the worlds oil supply. So if there is ever a World War 3, the USA will dictate who gets oil and who doesnt - AN ENEMY CANNOT RUN A WAR MACHINE WITHOUT OIL therefore any war against the USA would be a futile war of attrition.
The USA is already on the way to world domination - The USA is building the mother fucking DEATH STAR on the FRIKKEN MOON - We're taking over the worlds oil supply, if all goes well, every nation will just give up cause they KNOW they wont stand a chance against us.[/QUOTE]
R MacDonald
04-18-2004, 02:02 AM
If George Washington could here you now...
GO AWAY JEW-BOY!
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You dont seem to understand, I want the USA to take over the world. That includes all the sand nigger countries. The kike country, and every other nation outside the USA.
Here's the good we get from taking over middle eastern countries - we get to control the worlds oil supply. So if there is ever a World War 3, the USA will dictate who gets oil and who doesnt - AN ENEMY CANNOT RUN A WAR MACHINE WITHOUT OIL therefore any war against the USA would be a futile war of attrition.
The USA is already on the way to world domination - The USA is building the mother fucking DEATH STAR on the FRIKKEN MOON - We're taking over the worlds oil supply, if all goes well, every nation will just give up cause they KNOW they wont stand a chance against us.[/QUOTE]
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 02:28 AM
How about, in one blinding white flash, we make a glass skating rink out of the illegal zionist entity; then the doon-coons would treat us like gods and give us all the oil we can use. It would save the American lives and treasure being used to subdue 1,400,000,000 Muslims. Those young people and that treasure could then be used, as you suggest, to go to the moon.
Then we decorate the light-posts of Pennsylvania Avenue with the pendant carcasses of the few hundred neocon traitors that have got us into this disastrous war. If that course of action were taken you would see this entire forum waving the flag with you.
[ [QUOTE=Dethicus]You dont seem to understand, I want the USA to take over the world. That includes all the sand nigger countries. The kike country, and every other nation outside the USA.
Here's the good we get from taking over middle eastern countries - we get to control the worlds oil supply. So if there is ever a World War 3, the USA will dictate who gets oil and who doesnt - AN ENEMY CANNOT RUN A WAR MACHINE WITHOUT OIL therefore any war against the USA would be a futile war of attrition.
The USA is already on the way to world domination - The USA is building the mother fucking DEATH STAR on the FRIKKEN MOON - We're taking over the worlds oil supply, if all goes well, every nation will just give up cause they KNOW they wont stand a chance against us.[/QUOTE]
R MacDonald
04-18-2004, 02:50 AM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]How about, in one blinding white flash, we make a glass skating rink out of the illegal zionist entity; then the doon-coons would treat us like gods and give us all the oil we can use. It would save the American lives and treasure being used to subdue 1,400,000,000 Muslims. Those young people and that treasure could then be used, as you suggest, to go to the moon.
Then we decorate the light-posts of Pennsylvania Avenue with the pendant carcasses of the few hundred neocon traitors that have got us into this disastrous war. If that course of action were taken you would see this entire forum waving the flag with you.
[[/QUOTE]
Well said, Momus!
I get a laugh out of the izzies and their shoe shine boys who start rattling the izzy nuclear saber, as if we're all supposed to cringe. The worthwhile targets around the world also happen to be cities where most of the chosen ones and their pets live. If they ever truly went nutzoid and did launch an attack on Europe or america a single FRENCH missile boat could accomplish what you're envisioning without even leaving Saint-Nazaire. Any left over yidsters worldwide who weren't fried by their own cousins would be two legged happy meals for the residents of any country that took a sunday punch. Or even in countries that weren't involved.
[QUOTE=MOMUS]
How about, in one blinding white flash, we make a glass skating rink out of the illegal zionist entity; then the doon-coons would treat us like gods and give us all the oil we can use. It would save the American lives and treasure being used to subdue 1,400,000,000 Muslims. Those young people and that treasure could then be used, as you suggest, to go to the moon.
Then we decorate the light-posts of Pennsylvania Avenue with the pendant carcasses of the few hundred neocon traitors that have got us into this disastrous war. If that course of action were taken you would see this entire forum waving the flag with you.
[[/QUOTE]
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 03:30 AM
He seems to have the tribal knack for avoiding questions with no philosemitic answer.
.[QUOTE=Nick]I get a laugh out of the izzies and their shoe shine boys who start rattling the izzy nuclear saber, as if we're all supposed to cringe. The worthwhile targets around the world also happen to be cities where most of the chosen ones and their pets live. If they ever truly went nutzoid and did launch an attack on Europe or america a single FRENCH missile boat could accomplish what you're envisioning without even leaving Saint-Nazaire. Any left over yidsters worldwide who weren't fried by their own cousins would be two legged happy meals for the residents of any country that took a sunday punch. Or even in countries that weren't involved.[/QUOTE]
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 03:51 AM
[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]I totally agree. One of our leading tasks is to get Whites off the idea that the system in the USA (or any nation) is "theirs." That means opposing the flag, George Junior and his twin Kerry, all of these stupid kosher conservative orgs like the "Christian Coalition" (as well staying off the sideline issues they love, like abortion, prayer in the schools, "god" in the "pledge of allegiance", not to mention Israel) and speaking out against the US role as an Israeli cat's paw in Iraq. Your use of the word "disease" sums it up: so many White "conservatives" would agree with us on race, yet are kept as stooges running around going after symptoms.
I honestly don't think whoever got this thread going is a Jew, necessarily. He reflects the myopia that afflicts so many "well-meaning" conservatives.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, the masses don't understand that in the Federal Government's eyes that flag stands for DIVERSITY and the destruction of White America....
The government is our enemy and therefore to wave that flag would be saying, "Hey D.C., keep doing what you've been doing, everything's fine."
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 03:57 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You dont seem to understand, I want the USA to take over the world. That includes all the sand nigger countries. The kike country, and every other nation outside the USA.
Here's the good we get from taking over middle eastern countries - we get to control the worlds oil supply. So if there is ever a World War 3, the USA will dictate who gets oil and who doesnt - AN ENEMY CANNOT RUN A WAR MACHINE WITHOUT OIL therefore any war against the USA would be a futile war of attrition.
The USA is already on the way to world domination - The USA is building the mother fucking DEATH STAR on the FRIKKEN MOON - We're taking over the worlds oil supply, if all goes well, every nation will just give up cause they KNOW they wont stand a chance against us.[/QUOTE]
Yeah sure, the U.S.A. is going to dominate the world while our White daughters bring home nigger boyfriends. You don't have a clue. This is not about territorial regions, buddy...this is about RACE and the government of the U.S. doesn't give a shit about the White race. The U.S. army is full of MUDS. Bush has probably allowed at least 5 million Mexican illegals to cross the border in the last 3 years. Focus on the real issue, buddy...the real issue is RACE and your Federal government isn't fighting for long term White interests.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:06 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Paul is a sand nigger lover. He's upset because I called the Islam exactly what it is - A religion of war.
Go put your diaper back on your head sand nigger, your shit for brains are spilling out of your mouth.[/QUOTE]
You mean the same diapers that many "Arab-Americans" wear walking around in grocery stores in America these days?? The same Arabs which your "wonderful" president Bush calls "Good Americans"???? :confused:
You really don't understand this do you??? Where do you live? Because you certainly haven't noticed that we have non-Whites all over the place...
Have you worked for the Federal government or for any State governments? Maybe I should clue you in on how much your government really cares about the White race...
Okay, how's this...both my father and my sister were forced to take "Diversity Training" courses in their jobs. My father works for the State government of Virginia and my sister is a teacher....both of them had to learn "Diversity" as part of their job....In other words, they were forced by ZOG to fake tingly emotional feelings for lesser MUDS...
Is that the kind of government you want??? A government that humiliates White people and makes us kiss up to minorities just to get by????
Have you been living in a cave for the last 20 years? This is no longer a White country and it's becoming less and less White every year.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:14 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You are a race traiting sack of shit.
I guess you dont mind the fact that holland is almost 50% muslim? You dont mind the fact that France has a HUGE muslim population? You dont mind london looking like baghdad?
Get a fucking clue idiot. No wonder the white race is dying, idiots like you.
I guess you were happy when the sand niggers bombed us on 9/11? They killed about 2,500 white Americans on 9/11, some friends :rolleyes:
I guess you dont mind all the churches burning in Kosovo either. You dont mind muslims killing and stealing Russian land in Chechnya, you dont mind muslims having a civil war in order to take over Bosnia - WOW SOME FUCKING FRIENDS THESE SAND NIGGERS ARE!
You are obviously an American liberal leftist borderline commie and not a real WN.[/QUOTE]
Your analogies are stupid. If the U.S. had the small population of Holland we might be at 50% non-White right now.
Stop obsessing over Arabs. Do you think Mexicans are cute little puppies? How about Blacks? Do you admire their muscular athletic skill???
Because right now all I'm seeing from you is "Arab this, Arab that"...give it a rest........
More Whites get murdered from Black crime worldwide every year than died on 9-11.
Screw 9-11, focus on South Africa and the White genocide going on there.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:18 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.
The entire world doesnt hate us for one, we still have very good relations with all our allies, and those who DO hate us, hate us because the USA represents 4% of the worlds population yet controls around 40%-60% of the entire worlds wealth.
They are jealous of us. YOU probably hate the USA for the reasons you stated but you arent the entire world.[/QUOTE]
"They are jealous of us"...Thanks Sean Hannity.....
Yeah, the multi-millionaire Bin Laden hated us because he couldn't get his new X-Box shipped soon enough because he lived in a foreign country. Is that it? :cool:
You are a fucking NeoCon fool.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:20 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]So USA vs Iraq and Afghanistan doesnt interest you? You dont think the USA is a white nation or something? Are you an America hater?
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/images/does.my.american.flag.offend.you.jpg
Seems like you got a bad case of motherland syndrome. Get some Pride, American pride, boy.[/QUOTE]
The war against Saddam Hussein was a war for Israel. Maybe you like sucking Ariel Sharon's kosher cock but most of us don't.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:30 AM
[QUOTE=NW WILD CARD]Here are some writings for those interested in learning about the muslum mindset:
http://www.aryanwomen.org/writings/reflections.htm
Written by "true reb" it is a good accounting of his time spent in Saudi Arabia .The arabs are no freinds of the white race just like the Jews. The main difference is the Jews are alot smarter. I used to think there could be some sort of arab/aryan alliance till I read True Reb's story. The jews are the enemies of all who are not jewish .Any alliance between arabs and aryans would be temporary at best im afraid.[/QUOTE]
If you know White people who have traveled to Saudi Arabia and they were hated by the locals, why does that surprise you?? Of course they naturally assume that any White person is a Christian and therefore you would spread alien ideas in their nation. However, if that same White person had converted to Islam and it was well known by all, they would be accepted with open arms.
You must understand, the Arabs are completely raceless. Anyone can become a Muslim. I am very pale skinned but I have dark brown hair, if I grew a thick beard and converted to Islam and moved to Lebanon I would be accepted by them as "One of us". They are totally uninterested in RACE.
You misunderstand their feelings of being threatened by Christianity and western culture as some form of "racial" agenda which it most definitely is not.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 04:38 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]the entire world is JEALOUS of the USA thats why. and dont fucking act like they arent.
Every nation on earth is Jealous of the USA's superpower status and you know it, I know it, we all know it.
And the entire world wouldnt dare attack the USA because they know we'd drop nukes on them so quick it wouldnt even be funn - USA is the only nation with the BALLS to use nukes.
The entire world is our bitch. Bow the fuck down foreigniggers.
I'm not a Jew, im an american nationalist.[/QUOTE]
How cute, an American "Nationalist" fighting for Paul Wolfowitz, Colin Powell, and Condoleezza Rice..... :mad:
NW WILD CARD
04-18-2004, 08:28 AM
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]If you know White people who have traveled to Saudi Arabia and they were hated by the locals, why does that surprise you?? Of course they naturally assume that any White person is a Christian and therefore you would spread alien ideas in their nation. However, if that same White person had converted to Islam and it was well known by all, they would be accepted with open arms.
You must understand, the Arabs are completely raceless. Anyone can become a Muslim. I am very pale skinned but I have dark brown hair, if I grew a thick beard and converted to Islam and moved to Lebanon I would be accepted by them as "One of us". They are totally uninterested in RACE.
You misunderstand their feelings of being threatened by Christianity and western culture as some form of "racial" agenda which it most definitely is not.[/QUOTE]
You dont have to go to the middle east to expirience arab bullshit. Recently 80,000 muslums packed a auditorium in San Jose CA. In Portland Oregon arabs are the fastest growing demographic .My understanding is that places like Deerborn Mighigan and several parts of NYC are almost entirely arab.
I have expirienced them firsthand ,even had to work with a few of the lazy bastards. To me they are just another group of shitskins who need to be shipped back to the turd-world.
As for dithicus ,I doubt he is jewish.They are far more subtle, he just hasnt made the jew connection yet .Hopefully he will read more and educate himself as to why we are engaged in the middle eastern conflicts.
Look at european history ,the jews would sneak in the backdoor while the arabs would kick in the front door. Both groups are our enemies ,jews are just alot more dangerous. I would think that this forum could educate someone like Dithicus .Perhaps you could provide some links to the truth instead of calling him a jew .
just a thought
NWWC
Georgie
04-18-2004, 08:35 AM
No doubt that Arabs are a VERY serious threat. However, reading Dethicus's threads one would suspect that he is either a kike or some lemming patriotic American hero.
OttoRemer
04-18-2004, 09:00 AM
[QUOTE=NW WILD CARD]You dont have to go to the middle east to expirience arab bullshit. Recently 80,000 muslums packed a auditorium in San Jose CA. In Portland Oregon arabs are the fastest growing demographic .My understanding is that places like Deerborn Mighigan and several parts of NYC are almost entirely arab.
I have expirienced them firsthand ,even had to work with a few of the lazy bastards. To me they are just another group of shitskins who need to be shipped back to the turd-world.
As for dithicus ,I doubt he is jewish.They are far more subtle, he just hasnt made the jew connection yet .Hopefully he will read more and educate himself as to why we are engaged in the middle eastern conflicts.
Look at european history ,the jews would sneak in the backdoor while the arabs would kick in the front door. Both groups are our enemies ,jews are just alot more dangerous. I would think that this forum could educate someone like Dithicus .Perhaps you could provide some links to the truth instead of calling him a jew .
just a thought
NWWC[/QUOTE]
Arabs don't belong in America but neither do Mexicans, Asians, or Blacks. His specific emphasis on Arabs suggests two things: He's a typical Republican Fox News fan or a JEW.
Dethicus
04-18-2004, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]Your analogies are stupid. If the U.S. had the small population of Holland we might be at 50% non-White right now.
Stop obsessing over Arabs. Do you think Mexicans are cute little puppies? How about Blacks? Do you admire their muscular athletic skill???
Because right now all I'm seeing from you is "Arab this, Arab that"...give it a rest........
More Whites get murdered from Black crime worldwide every year than died on 9-11.
Screw 9-11, focus on South Africa and the White genocide going on there.[/QUOTE]
I'm in college and every class I take has about 10 rag headed skanks, most of them cant speak english FOR SHIT and fucking BEG ME FOR HELP EVERY GOD DAMN 5 FUCKING MINUTES - AND THEY ALL HAVE THIS WEIRD SMELL TO THEM WHICH I CANT PUT MY FINGER ON CAUSE I NEVER SMELLED IT BEFORE BUT IT DOESNT SMELL GOOD
I see more sand niggers every day than I see nig nogs (nig nogs are worse than sand niggers though I'll give you that) than I see beaners (i only see beaners when I go ot mcdonalds or pass a construction site)
the only race I see more of than sand niggers IS GOOKS - AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE DOG EATING, GARLIC SMELLING, SLANT EYED FUCKING CHINKS BECAUSE HERE IN CALIFORNIA THESE MOTHER FUCKERS ARE INVADING AND THEY EVEN WRITE ON THE WALLS "AZN INVAZN!!~" AND FUCKING SHIT LIKE THAT
Gooks and sand niggers is who I come in contact with all day.
and its the sand niggers who are bombing us, killing our soldiers, trying to take over our country. Why the fuck do we let these sand nig nogs into our colleges? so they can learn to attack us in the future? If I was president they'd all be locked up in INTERNMENT CAMPS RIGHT NOW
and the last time I saw a Jew was like 6 months ago.
Dethicus
04-18-2004, 12:24 PM
[QUOTE=Vlad]I had classes with some of the females decked out practically in full burka streetwear. Not only did they all have great difficulty with English, but their custom of not talking to the menfolk was a setback for them too.
We were able to get a few words through eventually after the womens realized their husbands were not standing in the shadows behind them with scimitar in hand ready to behead the nearest infidel wife who dared speak to Western man. It was insane. What the hell are they doing among us?
Still, it was jews who hijacked the US not arabs.[/QUOTE]
the rag heads in my school arent like that, I think they're actually coming on to me in their own sand nigger way. I swear to god the teacher will instruct us on doing something than 2 minutes later I'll have a group of sand niggers (they all sit next to each other, I sit across the room) coming up to me and asking me how to do things.
I think its because I'm the only white guy in my computer class so they think I'm really smart (which I am)
I'm thinking of buying a huge crucifix necklace, maybe that will keep the muslims away from me.
Gladius
04-18-2004, 12:44 PM
Dethicus, do you realize how many jewz are in the US senate? Especially involved with the Iraq war? Wolfowitz, Berger, Cohen, Rumsfeld.....Clinton's administration was rife with jews too....didn't jew Albright equate the expulsion of muslims from Kosovo as another holocaust?
Do you notice Israel is pretty much an American state, who receive all the benefits of the US militarily, economically and financially? Can't do stuff like that if you don't have jewz in the US gov't. Jews can have automatic dual citizenship, just for being jews. Jews run MAJOR media outlets and have influence on the American lemming's thinking process.
Itz funny, because Iraq was invaded for various reasons. You have to read inbetween the lines. Was it for a grudge against Saddam? Oil? Terrorism? Threat to Israel (Iraq is now replaced with Syria, later Iran)? 9-11 and Israeli connection? Did the Mossad let the highjackers complete their assualt, just to justify invading Afghanistan and then Iraq? Hey! Whats the lives of 3500 people when you can reap BILLIONS in oil.
Dethicus, you a Bush or Kerry man?
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 01:50 PM
You have written at length about your patriotic support of Neocon plans to rule the planet.
If you are not a Jew then you are an idiot. Do you know where the capitol of this New World Order hegemony you dream of will be if it comes about? If you think Washington then you are a fool.
You dream of bowing to Jerusalem, stooge.
MOMUS
04-18-2004, 03:33 PM
Dethicus, you stated that you are "antisemitic" in another post. Please respond to the following proposal:
[QUOTE=MOMUS]How about, in one blinding white flash, we make a glass skating rink out of the illegal zionist entity; then the doon-coons would love us and treat us like gods and give us all the oil we can use. It would save the American lives and treasure from being used to subdue 1,400,000,000 Muslims. Those young people and that treasure could then be used, as you suggest, to go to the moon.
Then we festoon the light-posts of Pennsylvania Avenue with the pendant carcasses of the few hundred neocon traitors that have got us into this disastrous war. If that course of action were taken you would see this entire forum waving the flag with you.
[[/QUOTE]
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]Dethicus, you stated that you are "antisemitic" in another post. Please respond to the following proposal:[/QUOTE]
How about instead we kill nuke the entire middle east, and africa, which will solve 99% of the worlds problems.
Kill all sand niggers and kikes, sounds good to me. Both are nothing but trouble makers.
Ruffin
04-19-2004, 05:17 PM
Any American who spends time warning people about the dangers of Islam is either a Jew, a Jew-tool, or a fucking idiot who deserves to be bred out of existence (shut up, sign up, and go fight "terrorists" for their lands).
Europeans, direct your ire over the immigrant invasion of Europe at the power centers that enable it - they ain't Moslem. Same for American Southerners who think blacks rode their own wagon into power.
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Any American who spends time warning people about the dangers of Islam is either a Jew, a Jew-tool, or a fucking idiot who deserves to be bred out of existence (shut up, sign up, and go fight "terrorists" for their lands).
Europeans, direct your ire over the immigrant invasion of Europe at the power centers that enable it - they ain't Moslem. Same for American Southerners who think blacks rode their own wagon into power.[/QUOTE]
You sound like the typical michael moore reading, demopig voting, america hating liberal sissy. take your gay ass back to democraticunderground.com where you belong you liberal pussy.
http://www.immigrantsforamerica.com/images/does.my.american.flag.offend.you.jpg
What are you gonna call me a hick now you fucking liberal cock sucking faggot?
Ruffin
04-19-2004, 06:43 PM
Hey, if you're worried about them, sign up with Uncle Shmuel and go fight them!
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/11-10-02/dieforisrael.jpg
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 06:44 PM
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Hey, if you're worried about them, sign up with Uncle Shmuel and go fight them!
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/11-10-02/dieforisrael.jpg[/QUOTE]
Dont worry, once I'm done with college I PLAN on signing up for the US Air Force and doing what I can to help kill the sand niggers.
and nice poster, I think I saw it at International A.N.S.W.E.R's web site. (Answer stands for: Act Now to Stop War and End Racism)
I like to think of the GOP as the new Nazi's.
http://user.cybrzn.com/~r47eb1/Air%20Force%20Falcons/images/1.jpg
http://www.ngw.nl/int/dld/images/duitsla4.jpg
Ruffin
04-19-2004, 06:57 PM
I'm sure those brave GOPers'll love your swastika, when they're finished wetting on themselves.
http://home.att.net/~whitesox/israel/Hopie.2xs.jpg
Exterminance
04-19-2004, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Dont worry, once I'm done with college I PLAN on signing up for the US Air Force and doing what I can to help kill the sand niggers.[/QUOTE]
What's with the fixation on sand niggers? Is the greater enemy too intimidating for you to take on?
In America, people like to talk about how great democracy is. They willing vote in the leader of their choice, and they willingly pay their tax dollars to the government they vote in. They don't stop and ask where those tax dolars are being spent. So, when September Eleven rolls around and the Arabs attack America for supporting the Israeli genocide against Palestine, the Americans start clamoring "Why? Why?" and answering their own question with half-baked lunacy like "It's because those people over there don't think like we do... it's because they don't value life the same way we do... it's because they hate us for our freedom."
Don't value life the same way you do, Americans? True perhaps. Perhaps losing your family twice - first seeing your parents and siblings killed by an Israeli firebombing, then having your wife and kids killed in a rocket attack - would give a Palestinian a different outlook on life. Perhaps in not blindly pumping their tax-dollars into the support of a genocide machine, they held different values concerning life to begin with.
It's kind of funny that after Israel brought this grief and misery upon America, there are still Americans aplenty who would still eagerly be Israel's bitch and continue piling up their own bodies to achieve Israel's ends.
Palestinians, being Arabs, are our natural racial enemies. Nonetheless I do feel some sympathy for them; in that they have suffered, and in that they have bravely continued the struggle against the Israelis. One day it will be war between us and the Arabs; but until then, I wish them well in their war, and I offer this prayer:
As it was in the streets of Deir Yassin, so may it be in the streets of Jerusalem. For every man, woman, and child of the Bene Ishmael who fell under the tread of the Zionist boot, may a man, woman, or child of Eretz Yisrael fall; and the pregnant Jewish woman, may she be taken, her belly slit open, her unborn infant seized by its ankles and its brains dashed out against the walls of Jerusalem. May the streets of Jerusalem be paved with the congealed blood of the Zionist. Bismillah hir-Rahmaan hir-Rahiim; Ameen.
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 07:11 PM
[QUOTE=Exterminance]What's with the fixation on sand niggers? Is the greater enemy too intimidating for you to take on?
In America, people like to talk about how great democracy is. They willing vote in the leader of their choice, and they willingly pay their tax dollars to the government they vote in. They don't stop and ask where those tax dolars are being spent. So, when September Eleven rolls around and the Arabs attack America for supporting the Israeli genocide against Palestine, the Americans start clamoring "Why? Why?" and answering their own question with half-baked lunacy like "It's because those people over there don't think like we do... it's because they don't value life the same way we do... it's because they hate us for our freedom."
Don't value life the same way you do, Americans? True perhaps. Perhaps losing your family twice - first seeing your parents and siblings killed by an Israeli firebombing, then having your wife and kids killed in a rocket attack - would give a Palestinian a different outlook on life. Perhaps in not blindly pumping their tax-dollars into the support of a genocide machine, they held different values concerning life to begin with.
It's kind of funny that after Israel brought this grief and misery upon America, there are still Americans aplenty who would still eagerly be Israel's bitch and continue piling up their own bodies to achieve Israel's ends.
Palestinians, being Arabs, are our natural racial enemies. Nonetheless I do feel some sympathy for them; in that they have suffered, and in that they have bravely continued the struggle against the Israelis. One day it will be war between us and the Arabs; but until then, I wish them well in their war, and I offer this prayer:
As it was in the streets of Deir Yassin, so may it be in the streets of Jerusalem. For every man, woman, and child of the Bene Ishmael who fell under the tread of the Zionist boot, may a man, woman, or child of Eretz Yisrael fall; and the pregnant Jewish woman, may she be taken, her belly slit open, her unborn infant seized by its ankles and its brains dashed out against the walls of Jerusalem. May the streets of Jerusalem be paved with the congealed blood of the Zionist. Bismillah hir-Rahmaan hir-Rahiim; Ameen.[/QUOTE]
I dont see anything wrong with Israeli Genocide against sand niggerstinians. and they shouldnt whine when we commit genocide on them.
OttoRemer
04-19-2004, 07:12 PM
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Any American who spends time warning people about the dangers of Islam is either a Jew, a Jew-tool, or a fucking idiot who deserves to be bred out of existence (shut up, sign up, and go fight "terrorists" for their lands).
Europeans, direct your ire over the immigrant invasion of Europe at the power centers that enable it - they ain't Moslem. Same for American Southerners who think blacks rode their own wagon into power.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, if you leave a birthday cake sitting out in the middle of a park don't be surprised if when you come back it's covered in ants. The Jews have given the Muslims the keys to the city and then we are blaming the Muslims instead of the key-givers? It makes no sense. The Muslims are only taking what the governments are allowing them to have......Jews are to blame...
OttoRemer
04-19-2004, 07:16 PM
[QUOTE=Ruffin]I'm sure those brave GOPers'll love your swastika, when they're finished wetting on themselves.
http://home.att.net/~whitesox/israel/Hopie.2xs.jpg[/QUOTE]
:D :D Good one!!!!
OttoRemer
04-19-2004, 07:19 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Dont worry, once I'm done with college I PLAN on signing up for the US Air Force and doing what I can to help kill the sand niggers.
and nice poster, I think I saw it at International A.N.S.W.E.R's web site. (Answer stands for: Act Now to Stop War and End Racism)
I like to think of the GOP as the new Nazi's.
http://user.cybrzn.com/~r47eb1/Air%20Force%20Falcons/images/1.jpg
http://www.ngw.nl/int/dld/images/duitsla4.jpg[/QUOTE]
That's funny because the GOP likes to think of themselves as the new Leon Trotskys. This reference will be totally over your head because you aren't the brightest bulb in the room, that's for sure!!!!!
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 10:26 PM
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]That's funny because the GOP likes to think of themselves as the new Leon Trotskys. This reference will be totally over your head because you aren't the brightest bulb in the room, that's for sure!!!!![/QUOTE]
I dont know who leon trotsky is but his name makes me think of commies and last I checked, demonrats were closet commies.
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=Vlad]Nuking only one of those countries would eliminate the dune coon problem. We had no beef at all with with them for a couple centuries before 1947 or so. It was pretty much just peaceful trade with the arabs in fact.
Now the jews are enforcing open borders and wars on arab lands. Now we have dune coon problems.[/QUOTE]
The dune coon problem wont be gone until all dune coons are gone. ¿comprende?
I know you fags are sand nigger lovers but please, stop kidding yourselves into thinking that sand niggers are our friends.
Tell me, have you traveled to Europe lately? You'll think you're in Baghdad. France, Holland - so many sand niggers, it's disgusting.
Tell me, why are sand niggers burning CHRISTIAN churches in Kosovo? Is it because of the Jews? Why are they waging a civil war in Bosnia in order to take over the country? Is it because of the Jews? Why are they trying to steal chechnya from the Russians? Is it because of the Jews?
Dethicus
04-19-2004, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE=Vlad]
Arabs in arab lands is fine just like africans in african lands. Arabs in White lands is a symptom of jews in White lands.[/QUOTE]
You see that's where I disagree - there should BE no arab land. There should be no African land. There should be no Jewish land. It should be OUR land. We have the power to take them over, we just dont have the will.
Expelling muds back to where they came from should only be a short term goal. World domination should be THE goal.
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE=IronWorker][SIZE=4]"The Last Refuge of Race Treason is Wrapped in the Flag of Patriotism."[/SIZE] ~ Pastor Richard Butler.[/QUOTE]
I consider inviting sand niggers to valhalla to be race treason. What say you?
Ruffin
04-20-2004, 04:41 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]I dont know who leon trotsky is but his name makes me think of commies and last I checked, demonrats were closet commies.[/QUOTE]
Democrats aren't closet commies. They're usually quite open about it. It's Republicans who pretend they're not Democrats, who're in the closet (to those who still haven't looked into the closet, that is).
If you're in college and you don't know who Trotsky was, you have a lot of learning to do before you go off to kill and die for Jewry, and anything you say can be taken for the public school thoughtlessness it is. The sooner your genetic line ends on some sand dune, the better for those of us who intend to survive the Jews' racial campaign against the west.
Now go read some books - the ones your professors don't want you to read.
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=Ruffin]Democrats aren't closet commies. They're usually quite open about it. It's Republicans who pretend they're not Democrats, who're in the closet (to those who still haven't looked into the closet, that is).
If you're in college and you don't know who Trotsky was, you have a lot of learning to do before you go off to kill and die for Jewry, and anything you say can be taken for the public school thoughtlessness it is. The sooner your genetic line ends on some sand dune, the better for those of us who intend to survive the Jews' racial campaign against the west.
Now go read some books - the ones your professors don't want you to read.[/QUOTE]
I dont really give a shit who trotsky was because history is gay and I'm majoring in something useful - Computer science.
the only history classes required for my degree is American history.
OttoRemer
04-20-2004, 07:30 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]I dont really give a shit who trotsky was because history is gay and I'm majoring in something useful - Computer science.
the only history classes required for my degree is American history.[/QUOTE]
In not knowing who Trotsky is you also know nothing about the NeoConservatives who kiss minority ass. Who do you think brought the niggers into the Republican Party? The Condoleezza Rice's and Colin Powell's...THE JEWS......
MOMUS
04-20-2004, 08:04 PM
This junior-high wannabe yidlet has no clue. He is annoying and I look forward to his confinement and isolation to the opposition ward.
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]In not knowing who Trotsky is you also know nothing about the NeoConservatives who kiss minority ass. Who do you think brought the niggers into the Republican Party? The Condoleezza Rice's and Colin Powell's...THE JEWS......[/QUOTE]
The Final Solution
04-20-2004, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]I'm majoring in something useful - Computer science.
[/QUOTE]
OK, well maybe time needs to take its course. When you graduate and can't find a job because the entire IT biz has been outsourced to India by GOP "free-traders" you'll have plenty of time to catch up on your Trotsky, Strauss and Podhoretz, the foundational thinkers of the modern neokahnservatism you embrace. Then come back to VNNF at your leisure. We won't gloat. At least I won't.
Gladius
04-20-2004, 09:23 PM
Dethicus, you never answered my question yet.
Are you a Bush or Kerry man?
Who will you support by voting...you do vote, right?
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=Gladius]Dethicus, you never answered my question yet.
Are you a Bush or Kerry man?
Who will you support by voting...you do vote, right?[/QUOTE]
I have already stated that I am voting for BUSH because Kerry is a LIBERAL PUSSY AND A KIKE AND A FLIP FLOPPER, A WAFFLER, AND AN OPPORTUNIST.
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 10:11 PM
[QUOTE=The Final Solution]OK, well maybe time needs to take its course. When you graduate and can't find a job because the entire IT biz has been outsourced to India by GOP "free-traders" you'll have plenty of time to catch up on your Trotsky, Strauss and Podhoretz, the foundational thinkers of the modern neokahnservatism you embrace. Then come back to VNNF at your leisure. We won't gloat. At least I won't.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between IT (information technology) and CS (computer science) you fucking idiot.
For one, you cant outsource a Cisco certified Network Associate to India, you cant outsource a Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert to India. You cant outsource a CompTIA A+ Certified computer repairman to India. We have to be on site making sure nothing is fucked up.
And now that you mention Trotsky was a Neo-Con and not some fucking commie, I think I will read up on him. because I like to consider myself a Neo-Con.
neo-con seems a lot like the word nazi doesnt it?... I love it. It's a great time we live in boys. I remember hearing "Nazi" started out as a derrogotory term the leftists (commies) used to describe national socialsts in Germany.
Same thing with the term Neo-Con.
OttoRemer
04-20-2004, 10:35 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]I have already stated that I am voting for BUSH because Kerry is a LIBERAL PUSSY AND A KIKE AND A FLIP FLOPPER, A WAFFLER, AND AN OPPORTUNIST.[/QUOTE]
And I suppose that Bush wanting to make 20 million Mexican illegal aliens into citizens just makes him a tough guy?
George Bush: Pussy in Chief
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 10:36 PM
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]And I suppose that Bush wanting to make 20 million Mexican illegal aliens into citizens just makes him a tough guy?
George Bush: Pussy in Chief[/QUOTE]
And Kerry saying that isnt enough makes him any better?
John Kerry: Pussy Kike Demonrat wanna-be president who planes on hading over USA's sovereignity to the niggers and euro-commies in the U.N
Bush only proposed that in order to get the spic vote, he knows damn well hs proposal will NEVER pass the GOP controlled house and senate.
OttoRemer
04-20-2004, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]There is a difference between IT (information technology) and CS (computer science) you fucking idiot.
For one, you cant outsource a Cisco certified Network Associate to India, you cant outsource a Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert to India. You cant outsource a CompTIA A+ Certified computer repairman to India. We have to be on site making sure nothing is fucked up.
And now that you mention Trotsky was a Neo-Con and not some fucking commie, I think I will read up on him. because I like to consider myself a Neo-Con.
neo-con seems a lot like the word nazi doesnt it?... I love it. It's a great time we live in boys. I remember hearing "Nazi" started out as a derrogotory term the leftists (commies) used to describe national socialsts in Germany.
Same thing with the term Neo-Con.[/QUOTE]
A moderator needs to send this guy to the Opposition board, this is getting ridiculous.
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 10:39 PM
Whos the faggot that said trotsky was a neo-con? HE WAS A FUCKING COMMIE PIECE OF SHIT - I DO NOT WANT TO READ UP ON YOUR COMMIE PINKO FAGGOT HEROES
I_FUCKING_HATE_COMMIES
IF YOU WANT TO READ UP ON NEO-CONS, READ UP ON THEODORE ROOSEVELT - A MAN WHO WASNT A PUSSY AND HAD THE BALLS TO USE AMERICAN FORCE TO EXPAND THE USA'S INTERESTS (he took the panama canal haha fucking spics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt
Steve B
04-20-2004, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=OttoRemer]A moderator needs to send this guy to the Opposition board, this is getting ridiculous. [/QUOTE]
You listening, Georgie?
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 10:50 PM
[QUOTE=Steve B]You listening, Georgie?[/QUOTE]
"Georgie" isnt a moderator anymore. His sand nigger loving antics probably got him demoted.
Steve B
04-20-2004, 10:51 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]"Georgie" isnt a moderator anymore.[/QUOTE]
You listening, Tom88?
MOMUS
04-20-2004, 11:04 PM
Were you thinking about Franklin Delano Roosevelt instead?
Don't pay any attention to this lil junior-high yidlet. He has no clue nor context to put it in.
[QUOTE=Alex Trebek]Theodore Roosevelt was a Marxist who was in League with the tyrant Joseph Stalin. Go fuck yourself for $1000.00![/QUOTE]
Dethicus
04-20-2004, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=MOMUS]Were you thinking about Franklin Delano Roosevelt instead?
Don't pay any attention to this lil junior-high yidlet. He has no clue nor context to put it in.[/QUOTE]
Tis true. FDR was a marxist commie bastard - AND A DEMONRAT NO LESS!
The demonratic party must be abolished IMO.
The Final Solution
04-21-2004, 11:05 AM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]There is a difference between IT (information technology) and CS (computer science) you fucking idiot. For one, you cant outsource a Cisco certified Network Associate to India, you cant outsource a Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert to India. You cant outsource a CompTIA A+ Certified computer repairman to India. We have to be on site making sure nothing is fucked up.[/QUOTE]
I take it you've not only neglected poor Trotsky but have read little economics either. The fungibility of much labor (and the availability of retraining) suggests that whatever is outsourced puts increasing pressure on wage and employment levels in whatever's left. So you're still hosed. Welcome to AmeriKwa.
And now that you mention Trotsky was a Neo-Con and not some fucking commie, I think I will read up on him. because I like to consider myself a Neo-Con.
I said no such thing, but I can see how someone so partially edjewcated as yourself could misunderstand. Trotsky was a Bolshevik--the Butcher of Kronstadt no less. What I said was he was a foundational thinker of neokahnservatism, whose adherents use communist methods under a transparent right wing guise to advance the interests of world kikery. If in fact you are White, you wouldn't be the first Race traitor to make common cause with them. Just hope it helps you out in your job search.
Dethicus
04-21-2004, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE=The Final Solution]
I said no such thing, but I can see how someone so partially edjewcated as yourself could misunderstand. Trotsky was a Bolshevik--the Butcher of Kronstadt no less. What I said was he was a foundational thinker of neokahnservatism, whose adherents use communist methods under a transparent right wing guise to advance the interests of world kikery. If in fact you are White, you wouldn't be the first Race traitor to make common cause with them. Just hope it helps you out in your job search.[/QUOTE]
Trotsky was a commie - the opposite of a neo-con. so please, stop talking out of your ass you sand nigger loving faggot. You watch too much of the History channel. Your knowledge of past events is useless. History majors are gay, useless, and do nothing to advance civilization. anyone who doesnt major in the sciences is a worthless piece of shit IMO.
Exterminance
04-21-2004, 02:29 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Trotsky was a commie - the opposite of a neo-con.[/QUOTE]
Communists and Anarchists are far-leftists - Liberal extremists. Neo-Cons are Liberals who think they're Conservatives. Both are Jew-inspired and pro-Jew; not particularly 'opposite' at all.
[QUOTE=Dethicus]You watch too much of the History channel. Your knowledge of past events is useless. History majors are gay, useless, and do nothing to advance civilization. anyone who doesnt major in the sciences is a worthless piece of shit IMO.[/QUOTE]
The 39th Precept: A People who are ignorant of their past will defile the present and destroy the future.
Or, as some put it, 'Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it'.
The Final Solution
04-21-2004, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=Exterminance]Or, as some put it, 'Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it'.[/QUOTE]
That was George Santayana. Corrolary: those (like Dethicus) who come to an anti-kike forum spouting kike neokahnservative ideas while bragging about how little they've read are doomed to the ignore list.
Exterminance
04-21-2004, 02:39 PM
[QUOTE=The Final Solution]That was George Santayana. Corrolary: those (like Dethicus) who come to an anti-kike forum spouting kike neokahnservative ideas while bragging about how little they've read are doomed to the ignore list.[/QUOTE]
It's certainly behaving like a Neo-Con. I used to think the 'ignore' feature was stupid... I wonder if I'll end up changing my mind about that.
Dethicus
04-21-2004, 03:33 PM
[QUOTE=Exterminance]
The 39th Precept: A People who are ignorant of their past will defile the present and destroy the future.
Or, as some put it, 'Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it'.[/QUOTE]
and whoever made those quotes was talking out of his ass. History is gay. Knowing about trotsky and hitler doesnt do shit for the world. Go read your gay ass history book while I go invent something useful.
Tell me how reading a history book is gonna help me keep my network secure? Tell me how many history majors are commissioned as officers in the U.S Military? lol
Here's a quote from me "Those who dwell on history are destined not to make it"
Bleach
04-21-2004, 03:53 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]and whoever made those quotes was talking out of his ass. History is gay. Knowing about trotsky and hitler doesnt do shit for the world. Go read your gay ass history book while I go invent something useful.
Tell me how reading a history book is gonna help me keep my network secure? Tell me how many history majors are commissioned as officers in the U.S Military? lol
Here's a quote from me "Those who dwell on history are destined not to make it"[/QUOTE]
History books are usually published by jews so you're probably right, there's nothing good in a history book these days. I'm sure there's many officers with History majors in the U.S military, but so what American officers are now sending their men to die against a faux enemy.
Bleach
04-21-2004, 04:01 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]Trotsky was a commie - the opposite of a neo-con. so please, stop talking out of your ass you sand nigger loving faggot. You watch too much of the History channel. Your knowledge of past events is useless. History majors are gay, useless, and do nothing to advance civilization. anyone who doesnt major in the sciences is a worthless piece of shit IMO.[/QUOTE]
The neo-cons, particularly Podhoretz and Cristol were admitted Trotskyite commies and proud of it before they became neo-cons after the left started to sympathize with the Palestinian cause.
OttoRemer
04-21-2004, 04:14 PM
[QUOTE=Dethicus]and whoever made those quotes was talking out of his ass. History is gay. Knowing about trotsky and hitler doesnt do shit for the world. Go read your gay ass history book while I go invent something useful.
Tell me how reading a history book is gonna help me keep my network secure? Tell me how many history majors are commissioned as officers in the U.S Military? lol
Here's a quote from me "Those who dwell on history are destined not to make it"[/QUOTE]
The U.S. military fights for Israel.
The Final Solution
04-21-2004, 04:26 PM
[QUOTE=Bleach]The neo-cons, particularly Horowitz and Cristol were admitted Trotskyite commies and proud of it before they became neo-cons after the left started to sympathize with the Palestinian cause. [/QUOTE]
For those who don't boast about the edjewcational value of not reading, here's a small piece of the Trotsky/neokahn connection:
The "Neocons": From the Cold War to the "Global Intifada"
By Leon T. Hadar
As the first scenes from the Gulf war were broadcast on American television, more than a few victory signs were probably raised in the editorial offices of magazines like Commentary or the New Republic and in the study rooms of think tanks like the American Enterprise Institute or the Hudson Institute.
Indeed, as in the headquarters of the Likud party in Tel Aviv, there was a sense of triumph and celebration at these centers of the neoconservative movement on the East Coast. For the members of this intellectual group, who during the Reagan era produced and implemented the militant pro-Israel and anti-Soviet agenda of the administration, the Persian Gulf war signaled the success of the coordinated effort they launched at the end of the Cold War. Its goal was to replace the decaying Soviet threat with a new enemy, the Arab world, and to set in motion a collision course between the West and Islam, whose only beneficiary would be the uncompromising and annexationist Israeli government.
It was not difficult to trace in the first days of the war the sense of satisfaction reflected in the columns of such neo-conservative writers as William Safire, "Abe" Rosenthal, Charles Krauthammer or Daniel Pipes. All welcomed the possibility of an American-Arab war which would turn the Palestinian intifada into a sideshow. At the same time, any television viewer could observe the glee with which Benjamin Netanyahu, the Likud government's chief propagandist and darling of the neoconservatives, reacted to the Iraqi missile attacks on Israel. According to him, these vindicated Israel's refusal to recognize Palestinian national aspirations.
The neoconservatives hoped that the end result of the war would be to revive the concept of Israel as America's "strategic asset," which had seemed doomed by the changing relationship between the two superpowers. These hopes were dashed, however, by the obvious desire of President George Bush that Israel stay on the sidelines, and the effectiveness with which such Arab countries as Egypt and Saudi Arabia cooperated with the US, both militarily and economically.
Who are these neoconservatives, or the neocons," as both admirers and enemies refer to them? The neoconservative movement was founded in the 1960s by a group of New York-based intellectuals, mostly academics and journalists, many of whom were concerned about the "anti-Israel" drift they detected among the ranks of the New Left and Black leaders who were gaining increasing power in the Democratic Party.
Among the major figures in the movement were former Trotskyites who studied in the '30s and '40s at the then "poor man's Harvard," the City College of New York, a center for socialist activism. They included Irving Kristol, who in the 1950s launched an anti-Soviet CIA front, the International Congress for Cultural Freedom; Norman Podhoretz, the editor of the American Jewish Committee's monthly magazine Commentary, which he turned into a major neoconservative outlet; Podhoretz's wife, Midge Decter, the chairperson of the now-defunct Committee on the Free World; sociologists Nathan Glazer and Daniel Bell; and Democratic Party pamphleteer Ben Wattenberg.
That neoconservative "nuclear family" was later joined by Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Walt and Eugene Rostow, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams (Podhoretz' son-in-law), Kenneth Adelman, and other Cold Warriors and advocates of hawkish Israeli policies. Individually and, later, as a group, they have had a major impact on the foreign policy of several administrations, beginning with that of Lyndon B. Johnson.
Born-Again Zionists
Israel became a central cause for these neocons after its victory in the 1967 war turned most of them into born-again Zionists. Neocons like the Rostow brothers and Ben Wattenberg, who served in the Johnson administration, helped LBJ drum up support for the Vietnam War among Jewish liberal Democrats who had been opposed to that military adventure. This was done by convincing such liberals that only a militarily strong and perpetually interventionist America can guarantee the security of Israel.
The corollary was that a strong Israel is a strategic asset" as far as American interests in the Middle East are concerned, helping Washington to contain Soviet expansionism in the area. This was reduced to the neoconservative dogma that what is good for Israel is good for America, and vice versa. Neocons have treated questioning of this dogma as the equivalent of a declaration of war and immediately have sought, by innuendo, to brand such questioners as "anti-Semitic."
Ironically, many of the Jewish neocons were and are assimilated Jews with little interest in Jewish civilization or religion. Israel, as a political cause, has become a substitute for religion for them, and by extension for many other American Jews.
All welcomed the possibility of an American-Arab war which would turn the Palestinian intifada into a sideshow.
Interestingly enough, the American Jewish community as a whole has ignored the neoconservative agenda, continuing to vote for liberal Democratic candidates for local and national offices. Some also recognize that the effort to turn the Jewish state into a "strategic asset" and the granting of enormous amounts of American aid to Israel endangered both American and Israeli longterm interests. It strengthened those forces in Israel opposed to a land-for-peace settlement with the Palestinians, and as a result produced exponential growth of anti-American antagonism in the Arab world.
In any case, Israel became one of the most important elements on the agenda of the neoconservative coalition that emerged as a counterforce after the 1972 victory of the McGovern forces in the Democratic Party. In 1968 the neocons backed the late Senator Hubert Humphrey from Minnesota for president. In 1972, they mobilized their support behind the late Senator Henry Jackson from Washington. Both Humphrey and Jackson represented staunch anti-Soviet and pro-Israeli positions in the party.
Senator Jackson's aides, Richard Perle and Elliott Abrams, who later became major figures in the Reagan foreign policy team, attempted to torpedo any effort by the Nixon and Carter administrations to improve relations with the Soviet Union or to launch peace efforts in the Middle East. From Jackson's office, the two led the campaign to use the issue of Jewish immigration from the Soviet Union to sabotage detente between Washington and Moscow.The result was Jackson-sponsored legislation denying the Soviet Union a "most favored nation" status unless it permitted increased Jewish emigration. Ironically, that move not only froze the Nixon-era detente, it also froze the emigration of Soviet Jews.
McGovern and his supporters were identified with a more skeptical approach toward Israel.Their 1972 victory within the Democratic Party was a major setback to the neoconservative forces. The neoconservatives formed the Coalition for a Democratic Majority (CDM) in 1973, aimed at rallying anti-Soviet and pro-Israeli Democrats in opposition to the McGovern liberals. That year also saw the beginning of the neoconservative drift toward the Republican Party, whose leaders saw in recruitment of the neocons an opportunity to improve Republican status in the media and in academic circles.
Unilateral American intervention in places like Grenada and Libya began to resemble Israel's own iron Fist approach to Middle East issues.
One of the recruits was Moynihan who, while serving as the Nixon administration's UN ambassador, used the position as a major pro-Israel platform. He did it to build a political base among Jewish voters in New York, which he then used to launch his successful campaign in that state for the Senate.
Cont'd...
The Final Solution
04-21-2004, 04:27 PM
It was the Carter administration's foreign policy agenda, including its efforts to improve the relationship with the Soviets and to accommodate the national interests of the Palestinians, that accelerated the political transition of the neocons from the Democratic to the Republican Party. Carter did not bring any members of the CDM into his administration.
The CDM, with the help of neoconservative columnists like Krautharnmer and Safire and of the New Republic, was the driving force behind a coordinated effort to weaken public support for Carter. For example, Michael Ledeen, a neocon conman and one of the founders of an Israeli front organization, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and whose name would surface later as one of the instigators of the IranContra affair, wrote an article in the New Republic which revealed ties between the late Billy Carter, the president's alcoholic brother, and Libyan government officials.
At the same time, members of the CDM and other neoconservatives played a leading role in shaping the agenda of the Reagan administration. For neoconservatives, like Kirkpatrick and Podhoretz, and for more traditional anti-Soviet officials such as Marine Colonels Robert McFarlane and Oliver North, Israel was a country that could combat Soviet mischief by no-nonsense foreign-policy realism, unbound by domestic legal contraints.
The neoconservative propagandists proposed Israel as a model for recovering from "post-Vietnam syndrome" and for renewing American energy and drive. Unilateral American intervention in places like Grenada and Libya began to resemble Israel's own iron fist approach to Middle East issues.
Increasing Isolation
The two countries found themselves increasingly alone in international organizations like the United Nations. A visitor from Mars to the UN headquarters in 1985 would have found it difficult to decide, after listening to Ambassadors Jeane Kirkpatrick and Benjamin Netanyahu, which of the two represented the United States and which Israel.
In addition to Kirkpatrick, who got her job as US representative to the UN after an article she published in Commentary caught Reagan's interest, other neocons occupied top positions in the Reagan foreign policy team. One was Max Kampelman, a former aide to Humphrey who was appointed to the position of director of arms control, and who was later replaced by another neocon, Kenneth Adelman. Richard Perle became the assistant secretary of defense. Richard Pipes, a regular Commentary contributor, joined the National Security Council. Elliot Abrams served as assistant secretary of state for human rights and later as assistant secretary for hemispheric affairs, where he played an active role in the Iran-Contra affair.
To the Likud Party, the policies of the Reagan administration seemed to offer Israel time to consolidate its hold on the West Bank and Gaza. The neoconservatives occupying top positions on Reagan's foreign policy team encouraged Washington to view the Arab-Israeli conflict through Cold War lenses, and to identify Palestinian nationalism as an extension of Soviet-induced international terrorism. In that context, Washington could view Israel's occupation of Palestinian lands with benign neglect.
All this was accomplished at serious cost for both Israel and the United States. The Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the IranContra affair were among the harmful products, while the intifada highlighted the destructive consequences of the neoconservative "strategic asset" formula and its operational implication of placing the Palestinian issue on the back burner.
However, it was the end of the Cold War that spelled disaster to the neocons, now at risk of being deprived of their favorite enemy and the justification for the strategic alliance between Washington and Jerusalem.
Enter the Middle Eastern bogeyman. For the past year, neoconservative intellectuals have focused on the need for the US to confront the new transnational enemy from the East, radical Arab nationalism and Islamic "fundamentalism," or what Krauthammer termed the "global intifada." The operational implication of this type of reasoning is that the original intifada can be forgotten.
The new, makeshift neoconservative line is that the removal of the Soviet threat in any Middle East calculation actually increases the value of the special relationship between the US and Israel, since the military strength of the Jewish state could serve as a deterrent to radical Arab regimes and help shore up shaky ones. By this vision, Israel becomes the contemporary crusader state, a bastion of the West. It was not a coincidence that writers like Krauthammer also supplied the ideological "Saddam-is-Hitler" formula that helped to press for the attack against Iraq.
"Paleoconservatives"
The neocons' main antagonists in the successful effort to get the United States to start shooting in the campaign to contain Saddam were the so-called "paleoconservatives," such as Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran, who since the end of the Cold War had been advocating a less activist American foreign policy. Indeed, neoconservative columnists like Rosenthal have accused the two of "anti-Semitism" for questioning whether there is a compatibility between the American interests and that of the Likud government.
Contrary to assertions such as Rosenthal's, Buchanan's reference to the Israeli Defense Ministry's "amen corner" in the United States that, according to him, was pushing the US to go to war immediately against Iraq, was not directed against the American Jewish community. (Actually, the Jewish senators and congressmembers were almost evenly split over the resolution authorizing Bush to go to war.) Buchanan was referring to the neoconservative writers who had been advocating the war option as opposed to the use of sanctions against Saddam.
Most US proponents of sanctions, whether liberal or conservative, feared that a war in which thousands of Arabs died at American hands would, in the long run, increasingly isolate Washington in the region. Ironically, the only way to prevent such negative results of the neocon agenda would be decisive efforts by the Bush administration to follow up the rollback of Saddam with an Israeli-Palestinian settlement based upon land for peace. It is just such efforts, however, that the neocons can be counted upon to oppose.
Leon T. Hadar, a former UN bureau chief for the Jerusalem Post, is an adjunct professor at the American University and an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, where he is writing a book on American policy in the Middle East.
http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0491/9104027.htm
Gladius
04-21-2004, 08:23 PM
[size=3][color=black]Me thinks, Dethicus is purposely avoiding delicate issues when it comes to jews and Israel.[/color][/size]
[size=1][color=#708090]Bush Blows It Again
by Charley Reese[/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]President George W. Bush continues to mislead the American people as to the cause of terrorism directed against the United States. [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]This week he guaranteed that more Americans will die from terrorist attacks due to his stabbing the Palestinians in the back. He has from the beginning acted as if he were a ventriloquist's dummy and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon were the ventriloquist. [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]He proved it again by buying into Sharon's scheme to steal great globs of Palestinian land in the West Bank, and by arrogantly denying the right of Palestinian refugees to return home or be compensated. Israel has no legal right to the land occupied by settlements; the whole world recognizes this and has for decades. The United States used to recognize it until Bush decided to kiss the most ample part of Sharon's anatomy. [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]How dare George Bush tell Palestinian refugees, ethnically cleansed in 1947–48 and again in 1967, that they have no rights? What unmitigated gall and arrogance he shows, what contempt for the Palestinians and indeed for the whole Muslim world. When did God give George Bush the power to abolish the human rights of other people? [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]It's no wonder he has to lie through his teeth to try to explain terrorism. We are not victims of terrorism because terrorists hate us or democracy or freedom. We are victims of terrorism because George Bush's policies inflict grievous harm on Palestinians, on Afghans and on Iraqis. [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]One hates to say it, but Osama bin Laden makes more sense than Bush. If you doubt the role of our support for Israel's brutalizing Palestine in causing terrorism, listen to what bin Laden says: [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]"The greatest rule of safety is justice, and stopping injustice and aggression. It was said: Oppression kills the oppressors, and the hotbed of injustice is evil. The situation in occupied Palestine is an example. What happened on 11 September and 11 March (the Madrid bombings) is your commodity returned to you." [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]In plainer English, the more the Israelis shed Palestinian blood with our unadulterated support, the more of our blood bin Laden hopes to shed. He says quite plainly – addressing himself to the people instead of politicians – why don't you stop shedding our blood so we can stop shedding yours? [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]He scoffs at being called a terrorist and says, "Our acts are reaction to your own acts, which are represented by the destruction and killing of our kinfolk in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine." [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]He goes on to say that rational people would not sacrifice their security, their money and their children "to please the liar of the White House. Had he been truthful about his claim for peace, he would not describe the person who ripped open pregnant women in Sabra and Shatila (a reference to Sharon) and the destroyer of the capitulation process (a reference to the peace process) as a man of peace." [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]Bin Laden says further: "He also would not have lied to people and said that we hate freedom and kill for the sake of killing. Reality proves our truthfulness and his lie. The killing of Russians was after their invasion of Afghanistan and Chechnya; the killing of Europeans was after their invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan; and the killing of Americans on the day of New York was after their support of the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula." [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]As much as you might hate bin Laden, he is telling the truth about the cause of the conflict, and Bush is lying. [/color][/size]
[size=1][color=slategray]Bush ought to come clean and tell the American people the truth about why we are in this war instead of spreading the lie that we were just innocent bystanders picked on by madmen. Even terrorists have rational reasons for what they do. [/color][/size][size=1][color=slategray]Bush is following the Israeli example. Rather than address the cause of the problem, he just tries to kill his way out of it. That policy has failed the Israelis, and it will fail us. [/color][/size]
superiorman
04-23-2004, 01:10 AM
Muslims Hate Jews And Are The Enemys Of Jews, So I Support Muslims 110% To Wipe Out The Jews, The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend! Why Dont You Leave You Fucking Kike Loving Maggot!
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