Mueller put this out minutes ago.

DEAR FELLOW PATRIOT!

With great outrage do I have to tell you that the
conference has been cancelled. The Sacramento
Turnverein caved in to the massive pressure of the
Jewish community and cancelled our facility. We have
yet to receive any official notice. All we know is the
press release that was sent out by the Turnverein.

Just a minute ago, after insisting to speak to the
President of the Turnverein, he called and told us "we
better start e-mailing everybody not to come."

We will lose a small fortune and you just lost your
ticket.

We are seeking an attorney, because we have a written
contract with the Turnverein that does not allow them
to cancel the event. Of course, we are doing in the
process of doing press releases, because it is also a
gross violation of the first amendment. The Turnverein
will have the facility locked down, so we can't enter.


Please cancel your flight and hotel room, so you don't
lose any more money.

About refunds, we cannot promise anything until the
legal issues are clarified. However, we have records
of everybody who paid, unfortunately, our money was
already invested into the conference. Just the
Turnverein, for the two days received $5,000.00. My
house is full with a few thousand dollars worth of
food, drink, equipment, etc. Some of it we can
hopefully return, however, I've already made
preparation with the food.

We will raise holy hell about this, and it just proves
that the US is not any better than Canada, Australia
and the European Countries. Imagine, four days before
the event, the President of the Turnverein issues a
press release, without notifying us first.

Of course, the money we have put out for flight
tickets will be lost. We will ask all speakers to try
to cancel their flights, unless they have other
engagements.

Well, that's it for now. I will keep you posted. Below
is the press release from the Turnverein as well as
ours in response.

[START]

PRESS RELEASE

Sacramento, California
April 19, 2004

A few months ago, a representative of an organization
calling itself the European American Culture Council
inquired with a member of our Sacramento Turn Verein
staff about renting our meeting hall for the purpose
of holding a conference during the weekend of April
23-25, 2004. When our staff member asked about the
nature of the conference and the content of the
program the
representative misrepresented himself and concealed
the fact that the conference was in fact to be a
gathering of Holocaust deniers. It was not until
the publication of an article in the Sacramento Bee on
April 15, 2004, that our organization learned that
this so-called Culture Council was in fact a front for
a group called the International Revisionist
Conference, bent on "revising" well-documented
historical facts about the Holocaust and that we had
been deceived when we agreed to let this group use our
facilities.

Accordingly, the Sacramento Turn Verein has promptly
advised this group that they are not welcome here on
April 23 or at any other time and that they will not
be permitted the use of our facilities.

The Sacramento Turn Verein has been a community
institution since 1854. We are believed to be one of
the oldest ongoing organizations in the City of
Sacramento. Turn Verein is German for "gymnastic
club." Our facility houses a library and the German
American Cultural Center which presents monthly
programs about German culture, history, music and
literature. Our membership is open to, and consists
of, men and women of all races, creeds and religions.
An active soccer club has been based here since 1960
as well as a the Turner Harmonie, a choral society
which dates back to 1854. We rent our facilities to
people of good will regardless of religion, gender, or
race for meetings, weddings and other gatherings. On
June 4, 5, and 6, the Sacramento Turn Verein will
proudly celebrate our 150th anniversary.

The Turn Verein regrets that there are those who would
seek to take advantage of our good will and our good
name in this community. We are relieved that we were
able to act in time to thwart this unseemly attempt to
use our space as a platform for hate. Hate and
historical "revisionism" have no place in our
community, our State, or our Country. We stand tall
and proud of our heritage and our contribution to life
in Sacramento and we look forward to another 150 years
of serving our community.

Sacramento Turn Verein

IRA L. JACOBSON

[END]

Our press release to the media:

[START]

EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE COUNCIL
PO BOX 191677, SACRAMENTO, CA 95819
(916) 927-8553


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, THE EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE
COUNCIL (EACC) FOUND OUT, THROUGH A THIRD PARTY, THAT
THE SACRAMENTO TURNVEREIN WOULD NOT HONOR THEIR
WRITTEN CONTRACT TO PROVIDE THE FACILITY FOR THE 2004
INTERNATIONAL REVISIONIST CONFERENCE IN SACRAMENTO,
SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH AND 25TH.

WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE OFFICIAL WORD FROM THE
TURNVEREIN OF SUCH ACTION. WE HAVE, WITHOUT SUCCESS,
TRIED TO CONTACT THEM.

FROM THE BEGINNING, WE WERE FORTHRIGHT AND HONEST WITH
THE PERSON WE DEALT WITH. WE HAD EVEN A FINAL
WALK-THROUGH ON SATURDAY, APRIL 10TH, COMPLIED WITH AL
REQUIREMENTS AND ALL NECESSARY PAYMENTS UPFRONT. THE
"REASONS" FOR THE TURNVEREIN'S CANCELLATION ARE
COMPLETE LIES.

THIS CLOSE TO THE EVENT, THE EACC WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
FIND A REPLACEMENT LOCATION. LEGAL ACTION WILL BE A
MUST. IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND A
BREACH OF CONTRACT.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT

WALTER F. MUELLER
(916) 927-8553

[END]

Can't be that hard to find another one!! A better one, I'll bet!! Hell, Just get another one, if that's the case!!
[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]Mueller put this out minutes ago.

DEAR FELLOW PATRIOT!

With great outrage do I have to tell you that the
conference has been cancelled. The Sacramento
Turnverein caved in to the massive pressure of the
Jewish community and cancelled our facility. We have
yet to receive any official notice. All we know is the
press release that was sent out by the Turnverein.

Just a minute ago, after insisting to speak to the
President of the Turnverein, he called and told us "we
better start e-mailing everybody not to come."

We will lose a small fortune and you just lost your
ticket.

We are seeking an attorney, because we have a written
contract with the Turnverein that does not allow them
to cancel the event. Of course, we are doing in the
process of doing press releases, because it is also a
gross violation of the first amendment. The Turnverein
will have the facility locked down, so we can't enter.


Please cancel your flight and hotel room, so you don't
lose any more money.

About refunds, we cannot promise anything until the
legal issues are clarified. However, we have records
of everybody who paid, unfortunately, our money was
already invested into the conference. Just the
Turnverein, for the two days received $5,000.00. My
house is full with a few thousand dollars worth of
food, drink, equipment, etc. Some of it we can
hopefully return, however, I've already made
preparation with the food.

We will raise holy hell about this, and it just proves
that the US is not any better than Canada, Australia
and the European Countries. Imagine, four days before
the event, the President of the Turnverein issues a
press release, without notifying us first.

Of course, the money we have put out for flight
tickets will be lost. We will ask all speakers to try
to cancel their flights, unless they have other
engagements.

Well, that's it for now. I will keep you posted. Below
is the press release from the Turnverein as well as
ours in response.

[START]

PRESS RELEASE

Sacramento, California
April 19, 2004

A few months ago, a representative of an organization
calling itself the European American Culture Council
inquired with a member of our Sacramento Turn Verein
staff about renting our meeting hall for the purpose
of holding a conference during the weekend of April
23-25, 2004. When our staff member asked about the
nature of the conference and the content of the
program the
representative misrepresented himself and concealed
the fact that the conference was in fact to be a
gathering of Holocaust deniers. It was not until
the publication of an article in the Sacramento Bee on
April 15, 2004, that our organization learned that
this so-called Culture Council was in fact a front for
a group called the International Revisionist
Conference, bent on "revising" well-documented
historical facts about the Holocaust and that we had
been deceived when we agreed to let this group use our
facilities.

Accordingly, the Sacramento Turn Verein has promptly
advised this group that they are not welcome here on
April 23 or at any other time and that they will not
be permitted the use of our facilities.

The Sacramento Turn Verein has been a community
institution since 1854. We are believed to be one of
the oldest ongoing organizations in the City of
Sacramento. Turn Verein is German for "gymnastic
club." Our facility houses a library and the German
American Cultural Center which presents monthly
programs about German culture, history, music and
literature. Our membership is open to, and consists
of, men and women of all races, creeds and religions.
An active soccer club has been based here since 1960
as well as a the Turner Harmonie, a choral society
which dates back to 1854. We rent our facilities to
people of good will regardless of religion, gender, or
race for meetings, weddings and other gatherings. On
June 4, 5, and 6, the Sacramento Turn Verein will
proudly celebrate our 150th anniversary.

The Turn Verein regrets that there are those who would
seek to take advantage of our good will and our good
name in this community. We are relieved that we were
able to act in time to thwart this unseemly attempt to
use our space as a platform for hate. Hate and
historical "revisionism" have no place in our
community, our State, or our Country. We stand tall
and proud of our heritage and our contribution to life
in Sacramento and we look forward to another 150 years
of serving our community.

Sacramento Turn Verein

IRA L. JACOBSON

[END]

Our press release to the media:

[START]

EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE COUNCIL
PO BOX 191677, SACRAMENTO, CA 95819
(916) 927-8553


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, THE EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE
COUNCIL (EACC) FOUND OUT, THROUGH A THIRD PARTY, THAT
THE SACRAMENTO TURNVEREIN WOULD NOT HONOR THEIR
WRITTEN CONTRACT TO PROVIDE THE FACILITY FOR THE 2004
INTERNATIONAL REVISIONIST CONFERENCE IN SACRAMENTO,
SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH AND 25TH.

WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE OFFICIAL WORD FROM THE
TURNVEREIN OF SUCH ACTION. WE HAVE, WITHOUT SUCCESS,
TRIED TO CONTACT THEM.

FROM THE BEGINNING, WE WERE FORTHRIGHT AND HONEST WITH
THE PERSON WE DEALT WITH. WE HAD EVEN A FINAL
WALK-THROUGH ON SATURDAY, APRIL 10TH, COMPLIED WITH AL
REQUIREMENTS AND ALL NECESSARY PAYMENTS UPFRONT. THE
"REASONS" FOR THE TURNVEREIN'S CANCELLATION ARE
COMPLETE LIES.

THIS CLOSE TO THE EVENT, THE EACC WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
FIND A REPLACEMENT LOCATION. LEGAL ACTION WILL BE A
MUST. IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND A
BREACH OF CONTRACT.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT

WALTER F. MUELLER
(916) 927-8553

[END][/QUOTE]

Mueller fucked up on three areas at least:

1) He didn't even have an alternative venue.
2) He used a "German-American" hall. These people are paranoid to the max and were 100% sure to drop the gig the minute they got leaned on.
3) He ran his yapper in the press and sent out the exact site address to hundreds of people. He stated that he was getting a "new era" of open-ness going.

It's kind of ironic to watch Mueller get upset about being "disinvited" by the Sacramento Turn Verein.

I say, where this is a Will, there is a Way. There's plenty of fucking Halls that will host, Sac is the state capital, but its a fucking armpit of a city, what's wrong with the Santa Cruz Mountains, it's still mostly white folk, Nice conference centers there. Ever hear of "the Chaminade" It's the best kept secret in Santa Cruz. Any Resort Hotel Conference Center will do. Come on Guys, Worse comes to worse can't someone with a big spread just offer up their pad?? I'm poor, but sitting on 600 acres. I'm sure somebody has a line on suitable digs. If you've got the money, you've got the hall. It may not be the Ritz, but let's face it, this Event "needs" to happen. If there is enough determined will, the path is clear!!

[QUOTE=norcalnative1971][SIZE=3]Actually, it COULD be that hard!

The SuckBee has already smeared the purpose of the conference, and I'm sure all the "anti-racists" have contacted available venues to make sure there is no new venue. Sacramento is full of Jews and Race Traitors.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Updating their website with this info would be a nice touch.

http://www.internationalrevisionistconference.com/

I was planning on registering this week. Even though I wouldn't be there in person, I was going to listen to the webcast and every little bit helps.

Yeah, is an obscure corner of the Internet you do. Hey! let's have a conference where we can all exchange ideas! yeah, right.

I guess our race will be typing out resistance till the very bitter end.

Oh gee, no one here saw this coming. http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8954/man23_gif.gif





They should just rent out a sacramental Shakeys Pizza Parlor and roll with it.

They thought if they wore dress suits instead of full uniforms they would be treated any differently?

LOL

What do these fools think the real world is their precious ‘stormfront’ where the fags can ban who they please? Their ostracizing of Herr Linder guaranteed their lil shindig would be shot in the foot. The new NA does not speak for the majority of WP people. Fuck ‘em!

Heil Linder!

TG

[QUOTE=Old White Goat]Oh gee, no one here saw this coming. http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8954/man23_gif.gif





They should just rent out a sacramental Shakeys Pizza Parlor and roll with it.

They thought if they wore dress suits instead of full uniforms they would be treated any differently?[/QUOTE]

No shit. They should have been prepared for this.

[QUOTE=T.Garrett]What do these fools think the real world is their precious ‘stormfront’ where the fags can ban who they please? [/QUOTE]

Maybe the new venue should be a fag bar.

[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]Mueller put this out minutes ago.

DEAR FELLOW PATRIOT!

With great outrage do I have to tell you that the
conference has been cancelled. The Sacramento
Turnverein caved in to the massive pressure of the
Jewish community and cancelled our facility. We have
yet to receive any official notice. All we know is the
press release that was sent out by the Turnverein.
[/QUOTE]
What "massive pressure"? Did the Mossad hold guns to their
heads, or did they merely use harsh language? Why are we WNs
always given such wooly explanations and left scratching
our heads? We need to collect more concrete intelligence on
these kike bastards. Turn the tables, publicize the identities of
the Jews who dare intimidate Americans from exercising their freedoms!


[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]About refunds, we cannot promise anything until the
legal issues are clarified. However, we have records
of everybody who paid, unfortunately, our money was
already invested into the conference. Just the
Turnverein, for the two days received $5,000.00. My
house is full with a few thousand dollars worth of
food, drink, equipment, etc. Some of it we can
hopefully return, however, I've already made
preparation with the food.[/QUOTE]
$5,000.00 for two days? That must be quite a facility!

Maybe if those who were so focused on snubbing Linder had put
their efforts into thwarting this predictable Jewish behavior,
this conference would be still going forward.

[QUOTE=torcher88]What "massive pressure"? Did the Mossad hold guns to their
heads, or did they merely use harsh language? Why are we WNs
always given such wooly explanations and left scratching
our heads? We need to collect more concrete intelligence on
these kike bastards. Turn the tables, publicize the identities of
the Jews who dare intimidate Americans from exercising their freedoms!



$5,000.00 for two days? That must be quite a facility!

Maybe if those who were so focused on snubbing Linder had put
their efforts into thwarting this predictable Jewish behavior,
this conference would be still going forward.[/QUOTE]

I think Linder is the Anointed One! The Sacramento Turn Verein conference uninvites Linder and then within a matter of 2 days the conference is cancelled. Divine intervention ITZ! What will Linder do next? Walk on water, turn water into beer? Feed the WN's multitudes? Raise Uncle Wolf from the dead? Is their anything HE can't do?

Jews force the Sacramento Turnverein to cancel!
http://www.internationalrevisionistconference.com/updates.html

Click here to find out why!!
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=3955

[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]Mueller put this out minutes ago.

DEAR FELLOW PATRIOT!

With great outrage do I have to tell you that the
conference has been cancelled. The Sacramento
Turnverein caved in to the massive pressure of the
Jewish community and cancelled our facility. We have
yet to receive any official notice. All we know is the
press release that was sent out by the Turnverein.

Just a minute ago, after insisting to speak to the
President of the Turnverein, he called and told us "we
better start e-mailing everybody not to come."

We will lose a small fortune and you just lost your
ticket.

We are seeking an attorney, because we have a written
contract with the Turnverein that does not allow them
to cancel the event. Of course, we are doing in the
process of doing press releases, because it is also a
gross violation of the first amendment. The Turnverein
will have the facility locked down, so we can't enter.


Please cancel your flight and hotel room, so you don't
lose any more money.

About refunds, we cannot promise anything until the
legal issues are clarified. However, we have records
of everybody who paid, unfortunately, our money was
already invested into the conference. Just the
Turnverein, for the two days received $5,000.00. My
house is full with a few thousand dollars worth of
food, drink, equipment, etc. Some of it we can
hopefully return, however, I've already made
preparation with the food.

We will raise holy hell about this, and it just proves
that the US is not any better than Canada, Australia
and the European Countries. Imagine, four days before
the event, the President of the Turnverein issues a
press release, without notifying us first.

Of course, the money we have put out for flight
tickets will be lost. We will ask all speakers to try
to cancel their flights, unless they have other
engagements.

Well, that's it for now. I will keep you posted. Below
is the press release from the Turnverein as well as
ours in response.

[START]

PRESS RELEASE

Sacramento, California
April 19, 2004

A few months ago, a representative of an organization
calling itself the European American Culture Council
inquired with a member of our Sacramento Turn Verein
staff about renting our meeting hall for the purpose
of holding a conference during the weekend of April
23-25, 2004. When our staff member asked about the
nature of the conference and the content of the
program the
representative misrepresented himself and concealed
the fact that the conference was in fact to be a
gathering of Holocaust deniers. It was not until
the publication of an article in the Sacramento Bee on
April 15, 2004, that our organization learned that
this so-called Culture Council was in fact a front for
a group called the International Revisionist
Conference, bent on "revising" well-documented
historical facts about the Holocaust and that we had
been deceived when we agreed to let this group use our
facilities.

Accordingly, the Sacramento Turn Verein has promptly
advised this group that they are not welcome here on
April 23 or at any other time and that they will not
be permitted the use of our facilities.

The Sacramento Turn Verein has been a community
institution since 1854. We are believed to be one of
the oldest ongoing organizations in the City of
Sacramento. Turn Verein is German for "gymnastic
club." Our facility houses a library and the German
American Cultural Center which presents monthly
programs about German culture, history, music and
literature. Our membership is open to, and consists
of, men and women of all races, creeds and religions.
An active soccer club has been based here since 1960
as well as a the Turner Harmonie, a choral society
which dates back to 1854. We rent our facilities to
people of good will regardless of religion, gender, or
race for meetings, weddings and other gatherings. On
June 4, 5, and 6, the Sacramento Turn Verein will
proudly celebrate our 150th anniversary.

The Turn Verein regrets that there are those who would
seek to take advantage of our good will and our good
name in this community. We are relieved that we were
able to act in time to thwart this unseemly attempt to
use our space as a platform for hate. Hate and
historical "revisionism" have no place in our
community, our State, or our Country. We stand tall
and proud of our heritage and our contribution to life
in Sacramento and we look forward to another 150 years
of serving our community.

Sacramento Turn Verein

IRA L. JACOBSON

[END]

Our press release to the media:

[START]

EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE COUNCIL
PO BOX 191677, SACRAMENTO, CA 95819
(916) 927-8553


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


ON MONDAY, APRIL 19TH, THE EUROPEAN AMERICAN CULTURE
COUNCIL (EACC) FOUND OUT, THROUGH A THIRD PARTY, THAT
THE SACRAMENTO TURNVEREIN WOULD NOT HONOR THEIR
WRITTEN CONTRACT TO PROVIDE THE FACILITY FOR THE 2004
INTERNATIONAL REVISIONIST CONFERENCE IN SACRAMENTO,
SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 24TH AND 25TH.

WE HAVE YET TO RECEIVE OFFICIAL WORD FROM THE
TURNVEREIN OF SUCH ACTION. WE HAVE, WITHOUT SUCCESS,
TRIED TO CONTACT THEM.

FROM THE BEGINNING, WE WERE FORTHRIGHT AND HONEST WITH
THE PERSON WE DEALT WITH. WE HAD EVEN A FINAL
WALK-THROUGH ON SATURDAY, APRIL 10TH, COMPLIED WITH AL
REQUIREMENTS AND ALL NECESSARY PAYMENTS UPFRONT. THE
"REASONS" FOR THE TURNVEREIN'S CANCELLATION ARE
COMPLETE LIES.

THIS CLOSE TO THE EVENT, THE EACC WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
FIND A REPLACEMENT LOCATION. LEGAL ACTION WILL BE A
MUST. IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND A
BREACH OF CONTRACT.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT

WALTER F. MUELLER
(916) 927-8553

[END][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=torcher88]
What "massive pressure"?....

Maybe if those who were so focused on snubbing Linder had put
their efforts into thwarting this predictable Jewish behavior,
this conference would be still going forward.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

Why all the boo-hoos? This isn't any affair of ours. The editor/publisher of VNN was specifically told two or three days ago his invitation to participate was revoked, effective immediately. Only vague reasons for that decision were given. At that point this conference became an exclusive Mueller-Strom-Stromfront-NA-IHR production. The fact that it turned into a comedy of incompetence after that doesn't bother me in the least. In fact it's mildly satisfying. Who cares now if the conference happens or not? It was made clear that the editor of VNN was not a desired presence, or not a desired speaker anyway.

It was only a hand full of Kikes that Didn't want Linder Showing his Ugly Mug. Remember there were probably quite a few people that bought tickets just because Linder was going to be there. That was evident through the 60 or so cancellations, that protested his humiliation by the kikes. I would venture to guess that more than a few would have appreciated his contribution to the Event. There will always be a mix of people for you and against you. Linder is not Alone. He has support!!
[QUOTE=Nick]Exactly.

Why all the boo-hoos? This isn't any affair of ours. The editor/publisher of VNN was specifically told two or three days ago his invitation to participate was revoked, effective immediately. Only vague reasons for that decision were given. At that point this conference became an exclusive Mueller-Strom-Stromfront-NA-IHR production. The fact that it turned into a comedy of incompetence after that doesn't bother me in the least. In fact it's mildly satisfying. Who cares now if the conference happens or not? It was made clear that the editor of VNN was not a desired presence, or not a desired speaker anyway.[/QUOTE]

It's funny now to think how Mueller has run everyone down while putting himself up as some "Messiah" for WNs and Revisionists, using this bogus conference as his tool.

This thing smells fishy: why would the Messiah book a Revisionist conference at a German-American hall? Why would he tell anyone with $35 where the gig is? How coud he afford such a shindig, meals included at $35 per chump--especially when he was paying at least $5000? And while slamming the IHR and Barnes Review for "secrecy" and "over-charging"? Why would he simply drop the conference without even looking for a new venue? Why did he not have a second venue lined up? Why would he sound off in the media with wacky statements such as saying "the Jews are doomed if Revisionism is successful"? At least he got the names, addresses and phone numbers of around 300 people!

He now tells people he's spent loads of their payola on the conference and they'll have to wait for refunds. The thirty-five dollars is chump-change compared to what people are going to get nailed for on car reservations, hotel reservations, airline tickets, re-scheduling of holidays, and gods know what else. Or all the sellers, many of whom already shipped their stuff to his house!

On top of it he's handed Revisionists a defeat in letting the Zionists shut us down. What an embarassment!

The funniest is when he said that German-Ams (meaning him and his live-in male companion Hans) are putting on the conference and "we're the best"! It must suck being him now. WNs in the Sac area have known for years this guy is not a serious person, which is why he and his house-mate are the only two people banned at all other WN events in the area.

[QUOTE=Billy Bob]
It was only a hand full of Kikes that Didn't want Linder Showing his Ugly Mug. Remember there were probably quite a few people that bought tickets just because Linder was going to be there. That was evident through the 60 or so cancellations, that protested his humiliation by the kikes. I would venture to guess that more than a few would have appreciated his contribution to the Event. There will always be a mix of people for you and against you. Linder is not Alone. He has support!![/QUOTE]

Show me some evidence Linder's participation was supported by anyone other than VNN forum members. Go to any website or web forum aside from VNNF and find some outrage at his being "disinvited."

NOW do you understand what I'm saying?

I Wouldn't assume all of his supporters were and are Vnnf Members and I would disagree with your assertion that non-Linder supporters don't care and aren't affected by this. It really comes down to freedom of speech. If Linder is censored at this conference, who is censored at the next one. Everybody will learn from the politics being played through this one. Everybody is paying attention very closely, Linder's Gang and everybody else!!
[QUOTE=Nick]Show me some evidence Linder's participation was supported by anyone other than VNN forum members. Go to any website or web forum aside from VNNF and find some outrage at his being "disinvited."

NOW do you understand what I'm saying?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you could crystallize your thoughts further???

[QUOTE=Nick]At that point this conference became an exclusive Mueller-Strom-Stromfront-NA-IHR productionQUOTE]

In the interests of accuracy, this was NOT a National Alliance "production". I'm looking at issue 4 of their "Golden State" newsletter wherein they warned their people not to attend as they had evidence that Mueller is a faggot, is probably not White, and has "links" with "law enforcement", which he has allowed in his meetings on other occasions. Their local unit has had numerous run-ins with Mueller and he has repeatedly attacked the NA. So it hardly follows that they would then suddenly take over and issue orders to this "freak", as he is titled in their newsletter. Mueller's sugar daddy is a guy named Harvey Taylor who has bankrolled other Mueller meetings. He's a flag waver and conservative, who says there are "Patriotic Jews." In fact Mueller at one point was pushing a petition of the Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership (not to mention his speaker, Barry Chamish, an Israeli follower of the late Kahane, who set up the JDL). If you want to find who would disinvite Linder, look in these areas.

[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll]
The funniest is when he said that German-Ams (meaning him and his live-in male companion Hans) are putting on the conference and "we're the best"! It must suck being him now. WNs in the Sac area have known for years this guy is not a serious person, which is why he and his house-mate are the only two people banned at all other WN events in the area.[/QUOTE]

That interesting ORNR. Sacramento is a bit out of my territory, I don't know much of what's happening up there, but the benefit of your experience with the guy might have been appreciated earlier. Hopefully anyone who got bit can chalk this up to a $35 lesson, which is cheap, but as you say anyone flying in from out of town will find it a lot more costly lesson. And yes, it must indeed suck being him now.

[QUOTE=Only Rock 'N' Roll][QUOTE=Nick]At that point this conference became an exclusive Mueller-Strom-Stromfront-NA-IHR production[/QUOTE]

In the interests of accuracy, this was NOT a National Alliance "production". I'm looking at issue 4 of their "Golden State" newsletter wherein they warned their people not to attend as they had evidence that Mueller is a faggot, is probably not White, and has "links" with "law enforcement", which he has allowed in his meetings on other occasions......[/QUOTE]

Thank you for that.

I stand corrected and apologize to the National Alliance for erroneously making a connection between that organization and Mueller.

In fact, Mueller's latest email is putting the heat on NA for not pushing his gig, and for having told people he's a "flaming faggot." He's doing a bait-and-switch setting up his alibi: It was the NA attacks, and those of others, that took his eye off the ball and let the Jews put one past him. He's promising to tell all in the days ahead, and states he's sunk 15 GRAND into this production (which he says he hoped to make back off beer and t-shirt sales! This guy is renowned for his tall tales).

As for me and a lot of others blowing the whistle on this clown, no-one wanted to hear. After all, Mueller had the formula nearly worked out: a $35 eat/meet/retreat fest packs them in. Still, Ingrid Rimland, the Golden State NA, A. Butz, Russ Granata, Carto's AFP and others--not exactly allies of each other!--all had his number and have for years. Dr. Sunic dropped out ages ago and even Toben, whose Adelaide Institute was a sponsor, dropped the hammer on Mueller on the weekend.

Did you know that in 1993 Mueller was in the local paper stating that "homophobes" had attempted to bomb the pad he shares with his "brother" Hans Huber, in the long-ago days when he was a left-wing neighborhood activist? A lot of people did, and chose to ignore it for cheap beer and sockertort.

Is it just me or is this whole Sacramento thing starting to smell like the typical jew false flag op?

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Nick, you're oversimplifying, my friend....

But I know you might still be asking, why does it matter that Alex Linder was disinvited? Here again, if Linder gets bounced due to external pressure off this roster of speakers at this ham and egg revisionist fair, then what about future racial bi-partisan events of more importance? If the Stormfront-NA uses it's pull to exclude Linder in Sacramento - as it has been alleged - that in itself is a scandal.
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That was my point actually. It's a given the powers that be at Stormfront will do what they can to sabotage anything involving VNN when they can manage it. There can't be many who don't fully understand that already. I'm past the point of being "outraged" or surprised by that type of thing, indeed I expect it. I don't spend a lot of time lamenting those situations when they occur, I just take it as Ok, they won that round. I do not envision myself cooperating with them on anything, ever. It's a struggle. I do not delude myself into thinking the two "camps" can ever consolidate, that's not a practical expectation due to the depth of fundamental mutual dislike and distrust between members of both sites.

All that being said, I freely admit to sense of Schadenfreude when one of their own projects goes down while they are machinating against the interests of VNN.

http://pages.zdnet.com/vfl99/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sacramentoturnverein.jpg

[SIZE=3]Sacramento Turnverein[/SIZE]

Here's where the conference won't be taking place

Edit: Whoa, that pic is waaay too big. I just left the URL there for anyone who wants to see what the place looks like.