Press conferences on television right now (1:00pm EST).

I'll see that when I believe it...:rolleyes:

Evil little toad -He should be put on trial for treason. :mad:

He will be replaced by a similar traitor.

Rumsfeld stepping down

(Washington-AP) November 8, 2006 - President Bush says Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is stepping down and former CIA Director Robert Gates will take over at the Pentagon and in prosecuting the war in Iraq.

Bush says he and Rumsfeld agreed that "the timing is right for new leadership" at the Pentagon.

Bush described Rumsfeld as a "superb leader" in a time of change, but says his defense chief recognizes the value of "fresh perspective." He says Rumsfeld is a "trusted adviser and friend," and that he's "deeply grateful" for his service to the country.

Earlier Wednesday, a spokesman for Rumsfeld said he'd given no indication that he would step down in the wake of Democratic election gains.

The spokesman said Rumsfeld would work with Congress on Iraq but added that the focus on stabilizing the country will remain the same.

President Bush has repeatedly backed Rumsfeld. Just days ago, Bush gave Rumsfeld a thumbs-up, saying he wanted him at the Pentagon for the remainder of his term.

Rumsfeld has been defense chief since Bush first took office in 2001, but the situation in Iraq has put Rumsfeld on the defensive.

More information as it becomes available.

Updated 1:12pm by Bryce Mursch


http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5650885

We'll just get another zionist who will follow the jewish agenda. Does it matter who Bush puts in the office?

Three years too late.

Not that it will change anything, of course.

Rumsfeld got fired. He is being replaced by one of Bush's cronies from Texas.

He will be replaced by a similar traitor.Exactly. Wtf does it really matter who replaces him? It's not the individual that needs to be brought down but the entire system itself. Only someone naive enough to still believe in "our" benevolent govt would get his heart all a-flutter over this cocksucker schlepping down. Whoopie-fuckin'-do! :rolleyes:

Hell, I'll get excited when I read his name in the obits, not a minute sooner.

Exactly. Wtf does it really matter who replaces him? It's not the individual that needs to be brought down but the entire system itself. Only someone naive enough to still believe in "our" benevolent govt would get his heart all a-flutter over this cocksucker schlepping down. Whoopie-fuckin'-do! :rolleyes:

Hell, I'll get excited when I read his name in the obits, not a minute sooner.

Personally, I have no faith whatsoever in "our benevolent government". As White people in the Kwa we have no government. We live under an oppressive zionist regime.

I'm just waiting and hoping for the whole goddamned thing to collapse.

Personally, I have no faith whatsoever in "our benevolent government". As White people in the Kwa we have no government. We live under an oppressive zionist regime.

I'm just waiting and hoping for the whole goddamned thing to collapse.Whoa, my man...

I'm just passing comment -- not judgement -- on your posting a news item. Several folks here made the obvious observation that the situation will remain as is, no matter who replaces Rummy. I was just extending on it. :cool:

The kiss of death for Rumsfeld came when Frum (Jew), Pearl (Jew), and Adelman (Jew) were interviewed in Vanity Fair Magazine. They turned on Bush, blaming his administration for the failure in Iraq. Shit rolls downhill - Rumsfeld took the dive.

Whoa, my man...

I'm just passing comment -- not judgement -- on your posting a news item. Several folks here made the obvious observation that the situation will remain as is, no matter who replaces Rummy. I was just extending on it.

HoaxThis,

My appologies, brother. There was no hostility intended in my reply to your post.

I do agree that there will be little or no change related to Rumsfeld stepping down (or being fired, as the case may be). I don't know alot about Bob Gates, Rummy's supposed replacement, but since he's being appointed by Bush, I can only assume he's just another zionist bastard. I'll be doing some research on Gates this afternoon and will know more about him within a few hours.

According to the recent jewmedia reports, as of yesterday, Rumsfeld was quite certain that he wasn't going anywhere. The way I look at this, Bush having to get rid of one of his highly regarded administration members is an admission that things aren't going well for the Bush Crime Regime. Hopefully this is just one more step towards dragging the whole lot of 'em in front of a War Crimes Tribunal.



The kiss of death for Rumsfeld came when Frum (Jew), Pearl (Jew), and Adelman (Jew) were interviewed in Vanity Fair Magazine. They turned on Bush, blaming his administration for the failure in Iraq. Shit rolls downhill - Rumsfeld took the dive.

Geoff,
You are correct. We are just waiting for the day that there is no "hill" for the "shit to roll down" and the zionist criminal Bush has to take responsibility for the actions of his murderous zionist cartel.

Too bad Scummy Rummy wasn't called in to testify at Saddam's trial.

Quite simply Sadam recieved a death sentence for saying out loud that Rumsfeld sold him the chemical weapons that he used to off those Kurds. I think it was the nail in the coffin. To much explaining to do in the near future....Better for the Zog to bury the story then have to eplain that one over and over. The Jews are quickly exposing their hipocracy and it is finaly REALLY getting attention.

That was laid out in "The Power Elite", back in the 1950s - men change offices but the agenda never changes, because the agenda is set by an upper level of power elite who usually never hold office, but string pull from behind the curtain.

What does Rummy care. Now he can now scuttle off to serve out his days on the board of multiple defense contractors and rake in the profits from the mass killing spree he has overseen in Iraq. Hell, theres probably a fat juicy book deal in the works for the scumbag. Ain't America great?

The kiss of death for Rumsfeld came when Frum (Jew), Pearl (Jew), and Adelman (Jew) were interviewed in Vanity Fair Magazine. They turned on Bush, blaming his administration for the failure in Iraq. Shit rolls downhill - Rumsfeld took the dive.

Typical jewish method : create some half baked plan , have it implemented by others . When it fails, blame the implementor and move on to the next sucker .

The jews will dance away and leave Bush with the reputation as one of America's worst presidents .

( The Democrat's main pollster , Greenberg did this same thing in '94. He told Democrats to run on and emphasize an anti-gun platform . The consequence , dozens of Democrats lost their seats in congress . Greenberg danced away to another position , no worse for the failure . )

Typical jewish method : create some half baked plan , have it implemented by others . When it fails, blame the implementor and move on to the next sucker .

The jews will dance away and leave Bush with the reputation as one of America's worst presidents .

( The Democrat's main pollster , Greenberg did this same thing in '94. He told Democrats to run on and emphasize an anti-gun platform . The consequence , dozens of Democrats lost their seats in congress . Greenberg danced away to another position , no worse for the failure . )

I refuse to pay too much attention to the crap in Iraq/war on terror bullshit, but I read Rumsfeld's problem was....he didn't send enough troops! I guess the next fellow will correct that.

By the way, this was the very problem the Zionists had with Bush I, he refused to invade Iraq because it would have taken 250,000 troops in deadly urban combat situations and he had a little feeling the American people -unlike their Israeli friends - wouldn't go for all the carnage. That is the pre-9/11 explanation "military experts" used to give on "Why we did not march to Baghdad and take out Saddam Hussein".

I refuse to pay too much attention to the crap in Iraq/war on terror bullshit, but I read Rumsfeld's problem was....he didn't send enough troops! I guess the next fellow will correct that.


Where will they get them ?

Where will they get them ?

Probably ..."The Draft".

Typical jewish method : create some half baked plan , have it implemented by others . When it fails, blame the implementor and move on to the next sucker .

The jews will dance away and leave Bush with the reputation as one of America's worst presidents .

( The Democrat's main pollster , Greenberg did this same thing in '94. He told Democrats to run on and emphasize an anti-gun platform . The consequence , dozens of Democrats lost their seats in congress . Greenberg danced away to another position , no worse for the failure . )

It's not a half-baked plan but one that was always thought out to it's logical(jew) conclusion. The fix is in guys and always has been. The war in Iraq was never meant to be won. Big jew doesn't want and never did want a unified, democratic Iraq. That was all a smokescreen for the lemmings. Bring democracy to the middle east...ha! Might as well bring democracy to China while were at it.

The goal has always been a partition along religious ethnic lines, which was applied in Yugoslavia. Split the Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish into so-called "autonomous regions." Why do this? Because 3 is easier to control than 1 and as VNNers know, pitting one against the other is good for behind the scenes manipulation.

The Iraq Sunni state would encompass part of Iran including its extensive oil fields. The Kurds in the north would keep Turkey in line and link the Turks with Israel via the mediterranean super tanker and oil pipeline highway.

Then the Shiites in the west could be used to annex a part of Syrian territory into a "greater Lebanon" which jewboy could control.

I know it sounds farfetched to us but thats jewboys plan guys. It'll never work of course. Too many variables, too many things to go wrong, to much Murphy's Law. But there gonna try it and thats been the plan all along. Make the war "un-winnable" and then come back with plan B which was plan A all along.

You know what the funny part is? Alot of VNNers think that the Democratic crime family victory is the end of the neoconservative jews. The reality is that it has served to reinforce rather than weaken the jew grip on US foreign policy.

I swear...I got vision and the worlds wearing bifocals.:o

It's not a half-baked plan but one that was always thought out to it's logical(jew) conclusion.

I say half-baked because jews have a profound ability to botch things .
We don't know what the final outcome will be , it could be Iran controlling all of the Persian Gulf and Arabia . jews aren't as clever as they think , just devious and cruel .

I say half-baked because jews have a profound ability to botch things .
We don't know what the final outcome will be , it could be Iran controlling all of the Persian Gulf and Arabia . jews aren't as clever as they think , just devious and cruel .
You're right . I know for a Fact that the jews think they are smarter than they really are , but confidence goes a long way to success in the world jungle out there , and they are instilled with massive confidence we cannot even imagine from birth , starting with their status as gawd's chozen . fuck the jews , they will Indeed screw things up and screw themselves in the end , and we'll get our revenge , which will be mighty and sweet and more cruel than anything ever seen before . fuck you jews !

You're right . I know for a Fact that the jews think they are smarter than they really are , but confidence goes a long way to success in the world jungle out there , and they are instilled with massive confidence we cannot even imagine from birth , starting with their status as gawd's chozen . fuck the jews , they will Indeed screw things up and screw themselves in the end , and we'll get our revenge , which will be mighty and sweet and more cruel than anything ever seen before . fuck you jews !

I hope you're right. And I also hope they'll still be something left for us to rebuild with after we rid ourselves of them.

but confidence goes a long way to success in the world jungle out there , and they are instilled with massive confidence we cannot even imagine from birth , starting with their status as gawd's chozen .

Is that ever the gospel truth . You really hit the point , on that !

You're right . I know for a Fact that the jews think they are smarter than they really are , but confidence goes a long way to success in the world jungle out there , and they are instilled with massive confidence we cannot even imagine from birth , starting with their status as gawd's chozen . fuck the jews , they will Indeed screw things up and screw themselves in the end , and we'll get our revenge , which will be mighty and sweet and more cruel than anything ever seen before . fuck you jews !

Wrong, the jew is instilled, not with massive confidence but with typical Jewish inferiority complex. The name changes, the denial of identity, the nose jobs. Is this a people with belief in oneself?

Add in the "eternal victim" bullshit.....delusions of grandeur(chosen)....the sado-masochistic paranoia and then wrap it up in some wacky, rabbinical, holocaustal religion and what do you have? One fucked up, scared to death, nutjobs.

Wrong, the jew is instilled, not with massive confidence but with typical Jewish inferiority complex. The name changes, the denial of identity, the nose jobs. Is this a people with belief in oneself?

Add in the "eternal victim" bullshit.....delusions of grandeur(chosen)....the sado-masochistic paranoia and then wrap it up in some wacky, rabbinical, holocaustal religion and what do you have? One fucked up, scared to death, nutjobs.

dead on. jews ACT like they have a superiority complex, but in reality they have an INFERIORITY complex. just like niggers these days. same deal. they know deep down they're shit. like you said, the name changes and hiding who they are - that one about says it all.

Probably ..."The Draft".

Gee, it's like I can read their minds!

By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer
14 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars and to bolster U.S. troop levels insufficient to cover potential future action in

Iran,

North Korea and

Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose a measure early next year.

In 2003, he proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the Nov. 7 election.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel, who also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 — now about 16 million — from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

Sorry for bringing up an old thread boys and girls but since Iraq is on the minds of many VNNers I thought I'd post this link from Hesham Tillawi, a Palestinian chap who has a 'fuckin brain.

Iraq: A Job Well Done
By: Hesham Tillawi,PhD

November 2006



"The powers that be" decided it's time for the Democrats to play their predestined roll in the final phase of " Iraq no More”. The curtain is coming down on the last scene of " Bravo Republicans" for the long awaited objective of destroying Iraq for Israel. After a short recess the curtain will rise again with a new scene from " Come home Yankees, we know you tried" as if to say, “ We went to Iraq to teach Iraqis democracy but they refused to learn it.”



When I was a kid, not even out of elementary school yet, I somehow knew the CIA was the most powerful intelligence service in the World. And, In 2001 I knew that Saddam Hussien had no weapons of mass destructions; however the CIA stated that they did not know. (or so, they wanted us to so believe this story) At the time, Bush et al were taking to the airwaves to convince Americans about Saddam's WMDs, and his links to Bin Laden. Once again, I knew right then and there that they were lying. At that time Iraqis lost 500,000 children due to malnutrition and lack of medicine due to a decade of sanctions by the US and the UN on innocent Iraqi civilians, which was acknowledged at that time by then- Secretary of State Madeleine Albright when she said in an interview after being asked about the half million Iraqi children's death: " We think the price is worth it." Iraq was not permitted to import any kind of electrical or mechanical equipment under the sanctions. Technically Iraq was sent back to the dark ages and I knew they would not have the capacity to threaten anyone much less the US.



In 1982, a Mossad strategy paper was published in Beirut by the AAUG where it took each Arab country and described in details where the fault lines exist in every country and the easiest way to break it up. They said Iraq was to be broken up into three different countries, Kurds, Sunnis, and Shiites. In 1996 Zionist Richard Perle, who in 2001 was the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy, Zionist Douglas Feith, who in 2001 was the Chairman of the Office of Special planning at the Pentagon and others, mainly Jewish Zionists, wrote a policy paper titled " A Clean Break: Strategy for Securing the Realm" and presented it to then Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu which clearly stated "...removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right —" It also clearly stated the idea of a " New Middle East" It was also presented to then President Clinton who rejected the idea of invading Iraq and removing Saddam Hussien. If you look at the Bush Administration in the first term you will see it was saturated with Jews who were more Israeli than American. Their loyalty was to make sure Israeli demands are met even if it was at the expense of America, no mater what the cost may be.



It is now obvious to everyone that the only reason America attacked Iraq was to break it up into three countries. The US and the whole World knew back then, before the war on Iraq started, that an Iraqi civil war was the only result to be expected. Well, that is exactly what was needed to breakup the country. Now the country is in the middle of, and being encouraged by many powers, a civil war until the end. Knowingly or not, the American military establishment was able to meet Israel's objective. The job is done - it's well done. As a matter of fact, most of the Zionists have left George Bush to deal with the problem alone. They are distancing themselves from him. Most of those Zionists who started the war are long gone, so no one would point a finger at the "Jews". It’s not possible for the Republicans to cut and run from Iraq even though the war objective was met. It’s not good for America's reputation in the world. Therefore, it is time for someone other than Republicans to clean up the mess, and since we do not have anyone else but the Democrats, so the democrats were hired to finish the job.



You don't need to be a genius to see the shift in the Mainstream Media coverage of Iraq in the last few months before the elections in November to figure out that the "powers that be" have decided to remove the Republicans and bring in the Democrats to wrap things up as the good guys who did not like what the Republicans have done. Now we will see more and more voices calling for the troops to pull out and Iraq to go on its own way to becoming three warring states. In other words, the Democrats were brought up to the table to continue this well written drama that only Shakespeare may understand its workings.



The Democrats' commitment to Israel is as equal or greater than the Republicans'. Iraq is only the first scene in this drama. The curtain is now going up to start the beginning of the first scene of the second act of "Iraq no More" which would include a war between the Muslims, Sunnis and Shiites. Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats big boss on the Hill is a strong supporter of Israel. At AIPAC's last conference, which incidentally took place around the same time the lobby group was busted for spying on The United States for Israel, Pelosi said: "There are those who contend that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza; this is absolute nonsense. In truth, the history of the conflict is not over occupation, and never has been: it is over the fundamental right of Israel to exist." Of course any one with an ounce of common sense knows that it is the Israeli occupation that is the core of the problem. It could not be Israel's security that is in question here, after all Israel has the fourth strongest army in the World who for over 60 years militarily oppressed the unarmed Palestinians. But this is clearly an indication of where Pelosi's heart and policy lie.



Now let us sit back and watch the beginning of the second act as this kabalistic drama plays out in front of our own eyes. The job of splitting Iraq into three states is done and almost complete- A stated Israeli policy- and now it is time to bring the boys and girls home. But of course, to save face, America needs to play "good cop, bad cop" and now it is the good cop's time to shine. In the next scene we will see Israel and some of the Arab countries having a common enemy, Iran. Israel will finally look as if her security concerns are those of the Arabs, and therefore, the cards will be shuffled again and Israel will pick up yet some more publicity in the Arab world, while Iran, the Shiites in Iraq, and Hizbullah will play a major role in our new drama, and of course, this will be done on the account of the Palestinians and their cause. The latest assassination in Lebanon of Pierre Gemayel, the son of former Lebanese president Amin Gemayel definitely is a scene from this act, and it came about at precisely the right moment to yet define the dividing lines between Sunnis and Shiites even though Pierr was a Christian. Now things are much clearer to where the Middle East is headed. The drama continues.



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