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jozu
November 8th, 2006, 12:06 PM
We Irish are silenced on the UK forum, even when we attempt to correct lies told about Ireland.

So, maybe we can have a discussion about Northern Ireland on the Ireland forum. All viewpoints may be heard as far as I'm concerned. There is no truth I fear.

In my opinion, a federal system would be best for Ireland. The 4 provinces having power over local issues like police, cultural activities, planning permission, business development and so on, and Federal Government run from Dublin having power over national issues like tax, the EU, the Army, with power over religion delegated to Rome (just kidding :)) etc.

This system would have the advantage that the Protestant population of NI could still be a majority in their province, while uniting the historic nation of Ireland as a single political entity.

I'm particularly interested in the views of the members of the UK forum. Can you defend your positions in an open forum without biased moderation? How do you see Northern Ireland's future?

jozu
November 8th, 2006, 09:41 PM
No takers eh?

Are you loyal subjects of her majesty and defenders of the realm incapable of open debate?

If you do not post here, where your argument can be debated, then do not post anything about Ireland on your UK forum. Only a coward would do so.

Or perhaps you agree with my plan for integration of Ulster into the Republic of Ireland under the federal model. :D

jozu
November 9th, 2006, 08:57 AM
Well I must say, this is rather unsporting of you English chaps not to come and have a jolly good chin-wag on this Irish bog here. I've prepared the Darjeeling tea and laid out the nice China set around the drawing room table... I've even baked a rather spiffing load of scones with Strawberry jam and marmalade.

Come along then chaps, for queen and country.... TALLY HO!

fyc
November 9th, 2006, 09:53 AM
pity the majority of northern ireland dont support your view. they do not want to be part of eire. pretty annoying fact that for republicans, who convieniently ignore this .
doesnt the consitution of northern ireland have in it that if the majority of people vote for it then the north would join eire.

I Hate Jews
November 9th, 2006, 10:31 AM
Dear Jozu, I believe that you are American. Is that correct? You are not Irish. You style yourself as Irish because you are a colonial and lack an ethnicity and all of the culture that comes with it and are insecure about that, and feel the English culture etc. imposed upon you from above.

I am English. I view the Irish as very low quality Whites and I think that they should all be deported to the New World and Ireland should be settled by the Germanic English. That includes most Scottish and some Welsh. Some Irish are Germanic as well, maybe some of them could stay.

What in fact will happen is that the U.K. will dissolve, into the E.U., Irish will outnumber British in Northern Ireland, and Ireland will be united as one whole E.U. state. A lot of the British there will leave for the mainland very soon, and most of the rest will fade away and go native. I expect them to be treated quite badly without the English government's protection.

I hope that you are grateful that a real live Englishman deigned to answer your childish little American post. Does it give you a thrill to challenge your authority figure? I know you just love being humiliated and made to feel small by your superiors. When you reply, call me 'sir'.

America First
November 9th, 2006, 11:48 AM
IMJ, do you know if English black opp's had any part of infiltrating and supporting the i r a at any time especially in the 1960's-70's? Clearly all White's World wide with an I.Q. of 100 and above need to be United for our survial.

The Truth At Last
November 9th, 2006, 11:49 AM
How do you see Northern Ireland's future?



the futures bright the futures ORANGE :box: :box: :box: :D :D

The Truth At Last
November 9th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Come along then chaps, for queen and country.... TALLY HO!

Nearly funny but you watch to many old movies ;)
Most of us prefer , For Race And Nation

The Truth At Last
November 9th, 2006, 12:03 PM
[QUOTE=jozu ]

In my opinion, a federal system would be best for Ireland. The 4 provinces having power over local issues like police, cultural activities, planning permission, business development and so on, and Federal Government run from Dublin having power over national issues like tax, the EU, the Army, with power over religion delegated to Rome (just kidding :)) etc.

QUOTE]

Forget the last bit mate :eek:
serious though a federal system for governing all the British Isles is BNP policy just with the centre being London not Dublin

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NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies/policies.htm#ulster

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An end to sectarianism in no way means we have to betray our traditions we just have to realise we do have far bigger enemys .

I Hate Jews
November 9th, 2006, 12:25 PM
IMJ, do you know if English black opp's had any part of infiltrating and supporting the i r a at any time especially in the 1960's-70's? Clearly all White's World wide with an I.Q. of 100 and above need to be United for our survial.

Yes they had a big role. I think it centered around the Intelligence Corps of the Army, which had a lot of people deep in the various I.R.A.s. I think that it peaked in the late 70s. I read a novel about Freddy Scappatticci, you should look him up, he was in the 'nutting squad' and pretty near the top of his organization. The British government set its agents free to torture, murder people etc., over years, in order to work their way up to the heights of the organizations and misdirect them. The agents were well supported with money and arms by the government of course. anyway as someone said the I.R.A.s get plenty of money from their rackets and drug deals etc.

Aryan Lord
November 9th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Incredible that certain British `white nationalists` should classify Aryans who are regarded as freedom fighters by their own people as being `terrorists` purely because they have the natural desire to retake their own soil, soil that has been Irish to the dawn of pre-history.
In my opinion the views of the `British` descendants of Scottish and English colonialists should not be an issue for the Irish.
How would British nationalists feel if in 300 years time the predominately Asian community of Bradford should express the desire to be annexed to Pakistan? Would that not be their right as the majority population? Of course you will say no, so why deny Ireland`s right to recover her territory?
It looks like a case of double standards to me.
Of course the only real future for both Britain and Ireland is as part of a pan-Aryan Imperium where states and boundaries would become a thing of the past.

jozu
November 9th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Dear Jozu, I believe that you are American. Is that correct? You are not Irish. You style yourself as Irish because you are a colonial and lack an ethnicity and all of the culture that comes with it and are insecure about that, and feel the English culture etc. imposed upon you from above.

I am English. I view the Irish as very low quality Whites and I think that they should all be deported to the New World and Ireland should be settled by the Germanic English. That includes most Scottish and some Welsh. Some Irish are Germanic as well, maybe some of them could stay.

What in fact will happen is that the U.K. will dissolve, into the E.U., Irish will outnumber British in Northern Ireland, and Ireland will be united as one whole E.U. state. A lot of the British there will leave for the mainland very soon, and most of the rest will fade away and go native. I expect them to be treated quite badly without the English government's protection.

I hope that you are grateful that a real live Englishman deigned to answer your childish little American post. Does it give you a thrill to challenge your authority figure? I know you just love being humiliated and made to feel small by your superiors. When you reply, call me 'sir'.





Dear I hate Jews.... Like the name...

No I'm not American. Born and bred in County Wicklow (not currenly in Ireland though).

Actually I agree with you. I think the English are on average slightly superior to the Irish. I'll admit that, and I think it would be hard to prove otherwise. Looking at the accomplishments of the 2 nations.

However, I think the difference has been exaggerated in popular belief by continuous slander against the Irish, and historical circumstances have held us back as a nation for a long time. So now most English people seriously do see us as ignorant pigs. Some Irish are indeed ignorant pigs... but not all. This is a bell curve thing, so we have a lot of quality people in Ireland too.

That said, I don't think this is about racial superiority. It is about tribal competition, and as a member of the Irish nation, I hope to see my nation survive and prosper. That is why I am patriotic... not because I see the Irish as a superior people. If you look at IQ stats you would have to admit to the English being inferior to the Japanese...but I doubt that means you want to allow the Japanese rule your country.

Now, about the future of the nation. I think you are spot on. The catholic birth rate has for a long time been higher than the Prot in the north... so the numbers are catching up, and before long we'll be a majority in the province. When that comes about it will be interesting to see what Britain will do.

As a child I always thought the catholics should just move across the border, and leave the North to the Proddies. That view did not make me very popular at school... their line was, 'we were here before them... they should go back to Britain'. What is that saying about an unstoppable force and an immovable object?

If the majority votes to rejoin the republic, I can't really see England objecting... it costs you guys too much money keeping the province going.


pity the majority of northern ireland dont support your view. they do not want to be part of eire. pretty annoying fact that for republicans, who convieniently ignore this .
doesnt the consitution of northern ireland have in it that if the majority of people vote for it then the north would join eire.


fyc, there are 2 main reasons the Protestant majority has always voted to remain in the UK... they are economic and cultural.

When the Irish free state was established in 1921, Ireland was an agricultural country, with the only industrial area being Ulster. All of Ulster's exports went to England, and thus to break from the Empire would have been economic suicide.

However, since manufacturing is no longer profitable in white countries and has pretty much all moved to Asia, Ulster's economy has taken a nose-dive. These days the republic is far more prosperous than the North, the economic incentive to remain in the UK would seem to have diminished.

As far as culture goes, the Ulster unionists have always feared the republic. Their old cry was 'Home rule is Rome rule'... meaning they were scared of being ruled by Catholics. However, Ireland is pretty much a secular state now, and religion plays a minor role in the state (and diminishing all the time). We have always treated the protestants well in Ireland (although their ancestors may have come from England).

Religious differences are just not that big a deal in the Republic... and certainly not a cause for discrimination. In fact the protestants in the republic have always been better off than the majority of catholics (even though they are a minority of about 2% or something).

My federal model would remove any lingering doubts the Ulster unionists have about rule from Dublin. They would have political dominance in their province, with little interference from Dublin.

As you say, currently the majority of Ulster people vote to stay in the UK. It is our job as Irish nationalists to change their minds. I think we can do it in time.

jozu
November 9th, 2006, 12:57 PM
The question of the IRA always issues forth from British nationalists.

They are not supported in the Republic. They are a fringe group. Sinn Fein gets about 5% of the vote in the Republic.

Please do not assume that every Irish nationalist supports the IRA.

That being said... they weren't actually too bad as terrorists go. Any innocent people they killed were pretty much accidents (or collateral damage as the Yanks say). They had a policy of phoning in warnings hours before any bombs went off, so that innocent people wouldn't be hurt. The really bad terrorists of Ulster were always the Loyalist UDA, who would just walk into a nationalist pub, and shoot everyone inside... look it up.

The Truth At Last
November 9th, 2006, 02:44 PM
[QUOTE=jozu]

Religious differences are just not that big a deal in the Republic... and certainly not a cause for discrimination. In fact the protestants in the republic have always been better off than the majority of catholics (even though they are a minority of about 2% or something).

QUOTE]


It's not always been like that though , Protestants once made up over 10% of those in the south until what in reality was Europes first ' ethnic cleansing ' of the twentieth century . Nobody seems interested in this bit of hidden history ! I still remember storys my grandmother used to tell of how their houses and halls were burned in Cork simple because they remained loyal to their heritage . Both sides have suffered and today many still carry a deep resentment but if a lasting peace in which both traditions keep their honour is to be found it will only be through true nationalists on both sides winning the battle for our peoples hearts and minds .

jozu
November 9th, 2006, 03:06 PM
It's not always been like that though , Protestants once made up over 10% of those in the south until what in reality was Europes first ' ethnic cleansing ' of the twentieth century . Nobody seems interested in this bit of hidden history ! I still remember storys my grandmother used to tell of how their houses and halls were burned in Cork simple because they remained loyal to their heritage . Both sides have suffered and today many still carry a deep resentment but if a lasting peace in which both traditions keep their honour is to be found it will only be through true nationalists on both sides winning the battle for our peoples hearts and minds .


I never heard of anything like that happening...but I guess there were isolated incidents. Lots of people were getting bumped off back then... there was a civil war going on.

A lot of protestants did leave the Republic after we left the UK. That was not because of persecution, but because the economy was a shambles for decades... a lot of them probably went to Britain for work, and business. Plus they had unfounded fears of the republicans... fears that were never borne out by reality.


Here's what wikipedia says...

However, It is widely (if not universally) accepted that little evidence of widespread discrimination against Protestants in the Irish Free State/Éire exists. The first President of Ireland, Douglas Hyde (1938 – 1945), and the fourth, Erskine Hamilton Childers (1973-74), belonged to the Church of Ireland. Mary Robinson, nee Mary Bourke, the seventh President has both Catholic and Protestant branches in her family, and is married to a Protestant, Nicholas Robinson, although her children were raised as Roman Catholics (her parents boycotted her wedding).

Leading ex-Unionists like the Earl of Granard and the Provost of Trinity College Dublin gained appointment to the President of Ireland's advisory body, the Council of State.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionists_(Ireland)

Bardamu
November 9th, 2006, 03:16 PM
Now, about the future of the nation. I think you are spot on. The catholic birth rate has for a long time been higher than the Prot in the north... so the numbers are catching up, and before long we'll be a majority in the province. When that comes about it will be interesting to see what Britain will do.

Does England derive any tax benefit from Northern Ireland, because if they do, I think it is doubtful they allow succession without a fight. The way these contemporary governments are they could give a fuck about race and nation, but when it comes to taxes, that is another story. :rolleyes:

fyc
November 9th, 2006, 03:26 PM
like i said, does not the northern irish consitution have a part in it that states if the majority of northern ireland vote for it then northern ireland can join with the eire.
i think that in reality, both britain and eire do not want to govern it as there are too many problems associated with it

Librarian
November 9th, 2006, 04:19 PM
The manner in which this subject has been treated on the British forum is a disgrace.

An outpouring of mindless, ill-informed hatred.

Librarian
November 9th, 2006, 04:21 PM
IMJ, do you know if English black opp's had any part of infiltrating and supporting the i r a at any time especially in the 1960's-70's?
Think 9/11 and the phoney War on Terror.

The IRA of the 1950's onwards and that of earlier years are very different creatures.

jozu
November 9th, 2006, 11:00 PM
The manner in which this subject has been treated on the British forum is a disgrace.

An outpouring of mindless, ill-informed hatred.

Yes, it seems odd that the UK forum seems to be the only forum where open and friendly debate is not allowed. The only comments that seem to be allowed over there are a bunch of slogans.

For decades, talk on Ulster was in the form of slogans, rather than actual conversations.

One side used slogans like "Brits out" and "Erin go Brea".
The other side responded with "Ulster says No" and "No surrender". Reminds me of a bunch of towel heads shouting "Allah Akbar".

Both sides in the province viewed talking as a form of weakness... so they just shot and bombed the shit out of each other for 30 years instead.

reo
November 10th, 2006, 10:03 AM
There needs to be free speech on this issue.
This isn't Stormfront .

If British parties don't drop the crypto-Loyalism it makes us harder for us to reason with Sinn Feiners and bring them over to the light side of the force.

White Nationalism implies a supranational sense of identity , in contradiction to the rival ethnic supremacies jockying for power in Ulster.
Zog pours petrol of the flames and pushes its finger into any cracks it sees.

Mike in Denver
November 10th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Yes, it seems odd that the UK forum seems to be the only forum where open and friendly debate is not allowed. The only comments that seem to be allowed over there are a bunch of slogans.

For decades, talk on Ulster was in the form of slogans, rather than actual conversations.

One side used slogans like "Brits out" and "Erin go Brea".
The other side responded with "Ulster says No" and "No surrender". Reminds me of a bunch of towel heads shouting "Allah Akbar".

Both sides in the province viewed talking as a form of weakness... so they just shot and bombed the shit out of each other for 30 years instead.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jozu again."

Good posts in this sub-forum, jozu. My vote is that you be made a moderator so that we of Irish, English, and Scottish ancestry can have some balanced and cordial conversations.

Enkidu

damian thorn
November 10th, 2006, 12:45 PM
The post by 'I Hate Jews' has it right in my opinion. Although I myself have some Irish ancestry I have to agree in all honesty that the Irish race is inferior to most others in NW Europe ( I don't include the Protestant Ulstermen is this assessment of course). I would venture to make a parallel with the difference between the Germans and the Poles being similar to the English and the Irish - they can sing and dance and all that malarkey but at the end of the day we're scraping the barrel with these moon faced cretins!

townie35
November 10th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Well I must say, this is rather unsporting of you English chaps not to come and have a jolly good chin-wag on this Irish bog here. I've prepared the Darjeeling tea and laid out the nice China set around the drawing room table... I've even baked a rather spiffing load of scones with Strawberry jam and marmalade.

Come along then chaps, for queen and country.... TALLY HO!

That there looks too patronizing for my tastes to encourage debate.

jozu
November 10th, 2006, 01:23 PM
Although I myself have some Irish ancestry I have to agree in all honesty that the Irish race is inferior to most others in NW Europe ( I don't include the Protestant Ulstermen is this assessment of course). I would venture to make a parallel with the difference between the Germans and the Poles being similar to the English and the Irish - they can sing and dance and all that malarkey but at the end of the day we're scraping the barrel with these moon faced cretins!

Way to support the team man! :D

You have been a member of this forum for over a year, with only 18 posts or so, and this is one of that 18. On average you would have posted just over once a month to get this figure, so basically we could surmise that your post above there is about as much as you can contribute in a month.

This is one of your all-time 18 precious contributions for the furtherance of the enlightenment of the white race. We surely are in the presence of genius.

townie35
November 10th, 2006, 01:25 PM
The post by 'I Hate Jews' has it right in my opinion. Although I myself have some Irish ancestry I have to agree in all honesty that the Irish race is inferior to most others in NW Europe ( I don't include the Protestant Ulstermen is this assessment of course). I would venture to make a parallel with the difference between the Germans and the Poles being similar to the English and the Irish - they can sing and dance and all that malarkey but at the end of the day we're scraping the barrel with these moon faced cretins!

I agree there mate. and think we should all think of the 14 words first before the religious hatred comes bubbling up.

jozu
November 10th, 2006, 01:27 PM
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jozu again."

Good posts in this sub-forum, jozu. My vote is that you be made a moderator so that we of Irish, English, and Scottish ancestry can have some balanced and cordial conversations.

Enkidu

Thanks Enkidu, but really I'm just another anonymous nobody. Much as I hate the prick, someone like ForBritain has much more claim on being a moderator on here than I have... at least he's an activist. I've influenced like maybe 5 or 6 people into being nationalist, just by quiet conversation. Basically nothing.

townie35
November 10th, 2006, 01:28 PM
Way to support the team man! :D

You have been a member of this forum for over a year, with only 18 posts or so, and this is one of that 18. On average you would have posted just over once a month to get this figure, so basically we could surmise that your post above there is about as much as you can contribute in a month.

This is one of your all-time 18 precious contributions for the furtherance of the enlightenment of the white race. We surely are in the presence of genius.

He has had more than this VNN account and has maybe posted as many times as I have. Over the years he has been posting on VNN.

jozu
November 10th, 2006, 01:32 PM
He has had more than this VNN account and has maybe posted as many times as I have. Over the years he has been posting on VNN.


Well you better tell Sid about that then, sockpuppets and all that.

townie35
November 10th, 2006, 01:54 PM
Well you better tell Sid about that then, sockpuppets and all that.

No harm is being done as far as I can see, so no need.

Mister Hodges
November 10th, 2006, 02:00 PM
I eye spied a comment that the 'Irish' are 'low quality' whites. I think this is another stale centuries old chestnut still left over, obviously propaganda against Ireland arrived at when the damn Irish just wouldn't let go of their own country.

Nonsense that belongs in an other age and is even more destructive today. Sadly on this issue the BNP are also living in a timewarp if they think conquering Ireland by mambi pambi slish-slosh is really is not going to be met with riotious laughter!

It's time the BNP emerged from the time of Francis Drake, join the real world and put forward a proactive apolitical neutral anti-immigration front that is cross community.

Coz cozying up to hardline loyalists & cutting off a large section of whites just won't cut the cake.

Aryan Lord
November 11th, 2006, 04:35 AM
The manner in which this subject has been treated on the British forum is a disgrace.

An outpouring of mindless, ill-informed hatred.

Indeed it has.
I have washed my hands of the UK forum and will not return there until it ceases to operate as a vehicle for the public washing of dirty linen and the profanity and abuse ceases.

Aryan Lord
November 11th, 2006, 04:40 AM
I eye spied a comment that the 'Irish' are 'low quality' whites. I think this is another stale centuries old chestnut still left over, obviously propaganda against Ireland arrived at when the damn Irish just wouldn't let go of their own country.

Nonsense that belongs in an other age and is even more destructive today. Sadly on this issue the BNP are also living in a timewarp if they think conquering Ireland by mambi pambi slish-slosh is really is not going to be met with riotious laughter!

It's time the BNP emerged from the time of Francis Drake, join the real world and put forward a proactive apolitical neutral anti-immigration front that is cross community.

Coz cozying up to hardline loyalists & cutting off a large section of whites just won't cut the cake.

The problem is that the BNP are no longer a `white nationalist` organisation and neither are most British nationalists white nationalists. They are stuck in a `2 world wars and 1 world cup` mentality and cannot evolve.

jozu
November 11th, 2006, 12:17 PM
No harm is being done as far as I can see, so no need.

Maybe you should email Alex Linder and get him to change his rules then. I've seen perfectly reasonable people banned for no other reason than having sockpuppets.

Another case of selectively enforcing the rules by the UK moderator.

Librarian
November 11th, 2006, 04:08 PM
The problem is that the BNP are no longer a `white nationalist` organisation and neither are most British nationalists white nationalists. They are stuck in a `2 world wars and 1 world cup` mentality and cannot evolve.
Exactly.

Most of them just can't wait to start bombing Germany again.

Aryan Lord
November 12th, 2006, 05:12 AM
Exactly.

Most of them just can't wait to start bombing Germany again.



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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Librarian again.

The Truth At Last
November 12th, 2006, 07:14 AM
Incredible that certain British `white nationalists` should classify Aryans who are regarded as freedom fighters by their own people as being `terrorists` purely because they have the natural desire to retake their own soil, soil that has been Irish to the dawn of pre-history

You dont visit Ulster very often do you , very few folk in either community see this gang of drug dealing pro-immigrant gangsters as "freedom fighter"
Neither it seem do you study history or could you show me when apart from under the Crown there was such a thing as " Ireland " a united nation .

The Truth At Last
November 12th, 2006, 07:28 AM
In my opinion the views of the `British` descendants of Scottish and English colonialists should not be an issue for the Irish.


Your unaware of the historical links Between Ulster and the west of Scotland and north west parts of England that the period often refered to as plantation was for many seen as a comming home . Would you also not take into acount the opinions of those red haired folk for surely they must be decendents of the Danes who founded Dublin , as a white nationalist dont you realise we are of the same north European blood and through the ages tribes have moved and settled all over , our history and future is so interwind it's madness for more brother wars or is a bit of Brit bashing more important .
What happened to the Aryan Imperium ?

Aryan Lord
November 12th, 2006, 08:52 AM
You dont visit Ulster very often do you , very few folk in either community see this gang of drug dealing pro-immigrant gangsters as "freedom fighter"
Neither it seem do you study history or could you show me when apart from under the Crown there was such a thing as " Ireland " a united nation .

On the contrary,even before the King of England seized the Irish crown in 1541 there were Irish High Kings from c.485 to 1603.
The tenuous hold of the English/British upon Ireland goes back a mere few centuries. You are behaving as if Ireland has always been under their jurisdiction!
Why should an indigenous people not seek to recover territory stolen from them? Why is this ok for everyone but the Irish?
What have the activities of some unscrupulous individuals to do with the fact that the Island of Ireland properly and historically belongs to the Irish?
Furthermore why are British nationalists so obsessed by this issue?
Why are you so keen to see the status quo of the zionist controlled British state be maintained when you should be doing everything in its power to oppose it? Why do you appear to equate the state with the folk?
Why do you allow petty issues like this to divide Aryan peoples and Aryan nationalists? Are you truly white nationalists at all?

The Truth At Last
November 12th, 2006, 10:06 AM
On the contrary,even before the King of England seized the Irish crown in 1541 there were Irish High Kings from c.485 to 1603.
The tenuous hold of the English/British upon Ireland goes back a mere few centuries. You are behaving as if Ireland has always been under their jurisdiction!
Why should an indigenous people not seek to recover territory stolen from them? Why is this ok for everyone but the Irish?
What have the activities of some unscrupulous individuals to do with the fact that the Island of Ireland properly and historically belongs to the Irish?
Furthermore why are British nationalists so obsessed by this issue?
Why are you so keen to see the status quo of the zionist controlled British state be maintained when you should be doing everything in its power to oppose it? Why do you appear to equate the state with the folk?
Why do you allow petty issues like this to divide Aryan peoples and Aryan nationalists? Are you truly white nationalists at all?

Dont play with words about high Kings there has never been apart from under the British Crown a united Ireland .
Some of us are "obsessed" because we have lost family and friends in defence of Loyal Ulster we understand blood and honour , do you ?
When you ask about dividing Ayran peoples cant you see the contradictions in your pushing for the division of the folk of these Isles .
You have fallen for the classic anti-Brit left wing republican shit then ask if I'm actualy a white nationalist well mate my conscience is clear and plenty know what I do for race & nation so I dont feel no need justify myself to you.............just who are you to question anyones credentials.

For Britain
November 12th, 2006, 10:27 AM
just who are you to question anyones credentials.

An ultimate tool? :D

Aryan Lord
November 12th, 2006, 10:30 AM
=The Truth At Last]Dont play with words about high Kings there has never been apart from under the British Crown a united Ireland .


Would you care to offer me some proof that there "has never been" a "united Ireland" apart from "under the British Crown"?
Or do we simply have to take your word for it?:rolleyes:
And even if there were some validity to your statement what exactly has that to do with the issue of Irish soil rightly belonging to the Irish people?
The Irish people have been in occupation of the island of Ireland for thousands of years.In fact their origins are so deeply entrenched in the past that they are now inescapeably mixed with Celtic myth. By comparison the English people who are quite recent interlopers in to the British Isles have only been in possession of England since the mid 5th century.Therefore your argument does not `hold water`.

Some of us are "obsessed" because we have lost family and friends in defence of Loyal Ulster we understand blood and honour , do you ?


I dare say many people "lost family and friends" in WWII but that does not make Britain`s aggressive war against Germany any more valid.
We must deal with objective facts not your feelings, strongly and sincerely held that they may be.
My concept of "blood and honour" is to do with the defence of the Aryan race, not the British state.



When you ask about dividing Ayran peoples cant you see the contradictions in your pushing for the division of the folk of these Isles .


The peoples of the British Isles are already `divided` in to the UK and the Republic of Ireland.
Furthermore the UK is also divided in to 4 seperate countries and certain elements within British nationalism would not be adverse to the break up of the United Kingdom. That does not make them any less white nationalist than you.
What state a people is governed by in western Europe has little relevance in western Europe in 2006 anyway. You are de facto ruled by the European Union anyway.
My concept of Imperium has no place for nation states anyway.
So far from `dividing` Aryans I am in a sense uniting them.


You have fallen for the classic anti-Brit left wing republican shit then ask if I'm actualy a white nationalist well mate my conscience is clear and plenty know what I do for race & nation so I dont feel no need justify myself to you.............just who are you to question anyones credentials.


I have `fallen for` no-one`s `shit`. It is an issue that I have made my own mind up about over the course of time.
`Plenty` may know what you `do for race & nation` but I don`t. Like any other poster on this forum you are entitled to express your views and I defend your right to do so[some wouldn`t] but you are just another poster as I am, no more and no less.

Aryan Lord
November 12th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Your unaware of the historical links Between Ulster and the west of Scotland and north west parts of England that the period often refered to as plantation was for many seen as a comming home . Would you also not take into acount the opinions of those red haired folk for surely they must be decendents of the Danes who founded Dublin , as a white nationalist dont you realise we are of the same north European blood and through the ages tribes have moved and settled all over , our history and future is so interwind it's madness for more brother wars or is a bit of Brit bashing more important .
What happened to the Aryan Imperium ?


I don`t necessarily disagree with the statements made in this post but at the end of the day the people of northern Ireland dwell in territory which historically right back to the dawn of pre-history has belonged to the Irish Celts.
The situation is similar to a Pakistani dominated Bradford asking to be made an annex of Pakistan. It is ludicrous.
The Aryan Imperium is an Imperium of no boundaries and no nation states.
It is you comrade who is clinging to the outdated notion of the British state.
Let it die man and let us all come together in pan-Aryan unity.
We have no other choice-it is the twelth hour.
Abandon nationalism and embrace the idea of Imperium!

jozu
November 12th, 2006, 10:37 AM
An ultimate tool? :D

Welcome to the Ireland forum... a forum where free speech is cherished and respected by all. :D

Aryan Lord
November 12th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Welcome to the Ireland forum... a forum where free speech is cherished and respected by all. :D

I will say AMEN to that!:cheers:

jozu
November 12th, 2006, 10:44 AM
AL, I think you are being a bit too idealistic about ancient Ireland mate.

The fact is, different tribes of the white race has invaded and conquered many lands through the centuries. The blunt historical reality is, to the victory go the spoils. The Ulstermen fought for their province and won and as far as I'm concerned they deserve to keep it.

I'd like to see Ireland united one day, but only if the ulstermen willingly go along with it. That means we have to try to change their minds about the whole Ireland thing, and it will require compromises on all sides. If they decide to stay in the UK, good luck to them.

jozu
November 12th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Oh really... let's see you do it then. It will be interesting to see how much the real moderators/owners of this board are going to put up with your shit.

For Britain
November 12th, 2006, 10:52 AM
Oh really... let's see you do it then. It will be interesting to see how much the real moderators/owners of this board are going to put up with your shit.


I'm going to start with you, you fucking bag of shit.

I have posted evidence of your sock puppets on the Admin board. I shall now take great pleasure in perma banning your stupid arse to Opps.

Doon de doris!

Proud White Guy
November 16th, 2006, 10:27 PM
You should be glad your on the internet. My family, left Ireland cause of you bastards.

You, for Britain, have to remember there we're a lot of Irish, Americans, that saved your dumb asses. Four of my great Uncles, died for your pussy asses.

I'm proud to be Irish, and you should be ashamed of being English.

How dare you piss on my people, by the way, your the ones bringing in niggers, and all other low lifes to make your life better, Guess what your the screwed ones.

Do you English have the balls to die for what you believe in? No, you've proven that.

You English are candy asses. Ban this, you pussy.

Donnachaidh
November 16th, 2006, 10:40 PM
Hey Proud White Guy, what do expect from somebody with a kike star on their flag? Yeah, I know the answer but you'd think they'd change it by now. At any rate, you don't see an English Republican Army blowing the shit out of New Pakistan in downtown London now do you. Personally, I wish the douchebags would get out of Scotland too.

Whitepride1888
December 30th, 2006, 11:10 AM
Ahh For Britain at it again with your Anti-irish behaviour!!

Sadly i and many other Irish people have the misfortune of actually living in England and believe me we are practically forced out of the NS movement here aswell as on their 'GUESTBOOKS/WEBSITES' ....*Sigh* National Socialism is sadly not as it was.

I am dedecated to our cause yet i was told NOT to attend a social because i support Celtic FC and wear a Celtic top-And that it could upset the English people/Rangers fans there- Hmmm i didnt think National Socialism was in anyway connected to sectarianism but it seems that to alot-not all- but alot of English Comrades it obviousley comes before race.

So Comrades i'd encourage you to keep posting your opinions on the UK forum and to ignore the Plastic National Socialists that sadly infest our ranks.88!!

Ni heolas go haontios!!

Vadler
December 30th, 2006, 07:24 PM
You'll never meet a finer racist than an Irishman. Hail Eire!!!!

Vadler
December 31st, 2006, 10:54 AM
Here is a comment to an article I found in The Guardian newspaper by a nigger living in Ireland: As a blackman who has lived in the Republic of Ireland for the past four years it has been indeed a revealing experience. The brand of racism you'll find in Ireland is like no other country on this planet. It's not only the interface of racial bullying and victimhood but it is also visceral and pathological. Irish children are taught to hate non-whites. You can say almost anything you want to say about blacks,gypsies and travellers and get away with it. The Irish immigrants in America it must be remembered were at the forefront of the white power structure which turned against blacks. The very word "lynch" was named after such a person. The Irish do not like race-mixing. Some families are in conflict over a member getting pregnant by a black man. The Irish are far more racist than the white South Africans and whites from the southern US states. They are the most intolerant whites on this planet and they can create major security problems for the growing black,mostly nigerian population here.

I Hate Jews
December 31st, 2006, 01:09 PM
Ahh For Britain at it again with your Anti-irish behaviour!!

Sadly i and many other Irish people have the misfortune of actually living in England and believe me we are practically forced out of the NS movement here aswell as on their 'GUESTBOOKS/WEBSITES' ....*Sigh* National Socialism is sadly not as it was.

I am dedecated to our cause yet i was told NOT to attend a social because i support Celtic FC and wear a Celtic top-And that it could upset the English people/Rangers fans there- Hmmm i didnt think National Socialism was in anyway connected to sectarianism but it seems that to alot-not all- but alot of English Comrades it obviousley comes before race.

So Comrades i'd encourage you to keep posting your opinions on the UK forum and to ignore the Plastic National Socialists that sadly infest our ranks.88!!

Ni heolas go haontios!!

Go back to Ireland. While on V.N.N. stay in your Irish ghetto forum. You have the misfortune to live in England, so you are actually living in England by accident? That is very unfortunate. You accidentally, or maybe your parents, got their Irish selves into England to live amongst real White people, where you could rise above the level of an animal and take part in civilization. While doing this you revel in your humiliation by saying that you hate England and love Ireland, while living in England and England gave you everything that you have. If it was not for the English the Irish would still be living in mud huts hopping from bog to bog.

Irish people look White, but once one is used to dealing with them it is clear that they are nothing but niggers with White skins. If you are a serious nationalist then go and be an Irish Nationalist in Ireland, do not continue to antagonize English people where you are not wanted.

Whitepride1888
December 31st, 2006, 04:46 PM
Well if you hate the Irish so much why are you in an Irish Sub-Forum?

Dustinwarnernj
February 20th, 2007, 09:52 AM
What's the difference in any of this? From what I saw when I visited Ireland recently, in 25 years the Irish in the south will be Polish speaking mulattoes who still think that they are Irish because they refuse to play "The Fields of Athenry" when an American of Irish descent requests it. Southern white Irish sticking up for niggers while spitting on the ground that white northern Irishmen walk on with a Jewish religion in the middle. Good job. Now time for some craic. How 'bout a pint?