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whiteman
December 10th, 2003, 06:02 PM
One must be realy insecure in life to have to bealive in a god . 99% OF ALL WARS WERE DUE TO some form of religion.
My biggest beef is with Christians , why bealive in a asshole that takes care of non-whites? How can you worship a god that has turned his back on our race?
The efen pope on a rope is even against giving nigs condoms . No he would rather have millions of niggers instead of used condoms. Look what your god has done to the once strong race of whites.
Maybe I would accept some form of religion if that god would only be for whites.Till then , all the gods can kiss my ass.
Boy i'm realy going to hell now. Yeah right. Once you are dead then its over thats why you have to live your life to the fullest and do what you can for our white race before its over.
FadeTheButcher
December 10th, 2003, 07:18 PM
One must be realy insecure in life to have to bealive in a god . 99% OF ALL WARS WERE DUE TO some form of religion.
You sound like a pacifist sissy.
My biggest beef is with Christians , why bealive in a asshole that takes care of non-whites?
"White" is not a culture or a nation. "White" is an aesthetic preference.
How can you worship a god that has turned his back on our race?
Our "race" has never been organized as a political entity in all of world history.
The efen pope on a rope is even against giving nigs condoms . No he would rather have millions of niggers instead of used condoms. Look what your god has done to the once strong race of whites.
Its not the fault of the Pope that atheists are race-mixers. Its not the fault of the Pope that your capitalists want a cheap third world labour force and have thus changed your immigration laws.
Maybe I would accept some form of religion if that god would only be for whites.Till then , all the gods can kiss my ass.
You sound as crude as the anti-racists.
Craig Smith
December 10th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Christianity is sick, regardless of the racial question. Its morality is passive.
FIATLUX
December 10th, 2003, 08:27 PM
why bealive in a asshole that takes care of non-whites? How can you worship a god that has turned his back on our race?
The efen pope on a rope is even against giving nigs condoms . No he would rather have millions of niggers instead of used condoms. Look what your god has done to the once strong race of whites.
Maybe I would accept some form of religion if that god would only be for whites.Till then , all the gods can kiss my ass.
Your problem here is that you have no understanding whatsoever about the nature of "God".
God is OMNIpresent - meaning EVERYWHERE / ALL PERVADING.
God is OMNIpotent - meaning of INFINITE POWER.
This means that God is not restricted to being in white only areas and God and the Power of God is everywhere no matter if YOU recognizes this or not.....
Hell? you? - pal! - there's so many forms for "hells" also here "on earth".....
FIAT LUX
FIATLUX
December 10th, 2003, 08:30 PM
Christianity is sick, regardless of the racial question. Its morality is passive.
That would be consensus yes.....
FIAT LUX
Ossian
December 10th, 2003, 08:42 PM
I think it's more like: LACK of religion is our downfall. (I'm not talking about what fashionably passes for "religion"--which, as you seem to say, is even more fatal than no creed or religion at all.) So few of us have today anything really worth living or dying for.
And, it takes at least as much faith to believe in "no god" than it does to believe in 'some' god; therefore, atheism is every bit as much a "religion" as is "Christianity." Communism, BTW, killed more people, esp. White people, than all the other "religious" crusades/wars combined. The only real rival to "communism" and its toll in White deaths is "mammon," ie, lust for money-the leading "religion" (if the two can indeed even be truly said to be separate.) "Wars are the Jews harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100-million of them, and the end is not yet." (Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn, confessing, or bragging... hard to tell which, same thing I guess). Yea verily yea, and forsooth, it takes at least as much ''faith'' to believe in ''communism/egalitarianism" (so-called "democracy;" or any other utopianism) than it does to believe in the Virgin Birth, "Christianity," etc.
FadeTheButcher
December 10th, 2003, 09:24 PM
Christianity is sick, regardless of the racial question. Its morality is passive.
Would you say the Crusades were passive? The Inquisition? Was Pizarro a pacifist? You have a pretty warped and distorted view of history. Europeans are so passive and effete today because they are CIVILIZED, because by and large they live in urban areas. The same thing happened to the Romans in their later years.
Magog
December 11th, 2003, 10:58 AM
This evil filthy watered down jewish religion is pure poison to the soul. The Aryan old ways are what we need to return to as a people and rid ourselves from this sickness that up holds weakens and a virtue.
FadeTheButcher
December 11th, 2003, 12:07 PM
This evil filthy watered down jewish religion is pure poison to the soul. The Aryan old ways are what we need to return to as a people and rid ourselves from this sickness that up holds weakens and a virtue.
What are these old ways? Tribalism? Human Sacrifice? Slavery? The enforced illiteracy of the Druids? Tell us more about the glories and heathen accomplishments of Northern Europe from 2000 B.C. to 1 A.D. LOL Magog here would actually prefer to live amongst the wandering Quadi and Hunnic slaves of prehistory than the German Christians of the First Reich
Whirlwind
December 12th, 2003, 07:31 AM
Christians burned the Library of Alexandria. That seems progressive. Not. Christian zealots erased our oral traditions and medicine, by killing non-believers. Look up that 5764 number. LMAO!
Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 09:37 AM
No baiting here, I just wonder about these two sentences:
"White" is not a culture or a nation. "White" is an aesthetic preference.
Our "race" has never been organized as a political entity in all of world history.
Why do you write "race"? You don't think there are races?
Regarding immigration laws, Professor Kevin MacDonald has documented extensively how it was Jewish individuals and Jewish organizations that changed the immigration laws in the United States. It has always been the left that has been the first to push for non-White immigration, while the right has resisted but eventually caved in. The left's anti-Whiteness and international nature came naturally from communism being to such a large degree a Jewish product. Business owners, well, they follow the trends. They will be fascists in fascist countries, PC in the West today, and so on -- that's what is best for business, to not fight the ruling paradigm.
FIATLUX
December 12th, 2003, 11:34 AM
Regarding immigration laws, Professor Kevin MacDonald has documented extensively how it was Jewish individuals and Jewish organizations that changed the immigration laws in the United States. It has always been the left that has been the first to push for non-White immigration, while the right has resisted but eventually caved in. The left's anti-Whiteness and international nature came naturally from communism being to such a large degree a Jewish product. Business owners, well, they follow the trends. They will be fascists in fascist countries, PC in the West today, and so on -- that's what is best for business, to not fight the ruling paradigm.
You do a good job on watching the Jews and you supply good information / argumentation but I'll keep on saying that it is not good that you stare yourself blind on one subject and thus looses the scope of the broader perspective.....
(Come end of Friday 12.12.3003 I will be out of here not to come back - atleast not for a very long time)
FIAT LUX
whiteman
December 12th, 2003, 01:44 PM
(Come end of Friday 12.12.3003 I will be out of here not to come back - atleast not for a very long time)
FIAT LUX
Going to jail????
FIATLUX
December 12th, 2003, 01:54 PM
Going to jail????
No ! - I'm just getting too caught up when I do stuff like this - so for me it becomes a lot like either or...
I simply must try to utilize my energy on getting some other things done that matters to me more personally. There's a lot of nice people around here and it is a very nice thing to do this for a while (though there are also idiots here) , also it means a lot to know that there are other people that feels just like yourself - atleast with respect to some matters...
Take care.....
FIAT LUX
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 02:41 PM
Christians burned the Library of Alexandria. That seems progressive. Not. Christian zealots erased our oral traditions and medicine, by killing non-believers. Look up that 5764 number. LMAO!
Tell me. What do YOU have anything to do with the information that was stored in the Library of Alexandria? Are you an Egyptian? Are you Greek? A Levantine perhaps? ROFL what did heathen Northern Europe produce that was stored in the Library of Alexandria? Strategies as to how to catch rats? :p
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 03:16 PM
No baiting here, I just wonder about these two sentences
That's not my argument. My argument is that "the white race" has never been organized as a political unit anymore than humanity has. There is no such thing as a "white culture" anymore than there is a "human culture."
Regarding immigration laws, Professor Kevin MacDonald has documented extensively how it was Jewish individuals and Jewish organizations that changed the immigration laws in the United States.
Here we go again. Blame the Jews for everything. An asteroid falls from the sky, the Jews must be responsible for it all. Your mom comes down with the flu, it must be the Jews casting spells. How Christian of you Fredrik Haerne! You and many of the other idiots here who so viciously attack Christianity are thoroughly sub-consciously influenced by the worst aspects of Christian yourselves. What we have here is the same devil theory of politics that led to the witch burnings you bitch and moan about it. Not only that, but can you tell us, what other people in the world are as much paranoid fanatics as yourselves? That's right - the Jews. You people are so obsessed with the Jews that you actually become quite like the Jews yourselves. Oy vey! Hell, you motherfuckers even begin to imitate their language! And while we are on the topic of Kevin MacDonald, whose work I doubt you have even read (since 99% of you morons are functionally illiterate), Kevin MacDonald dismisses the very idea of a Jewish conspiracy. Kevin MacDonald finds the idea of a "ZOG" to be laughable and you only make yourself look like a fool by citing him. Kevin MacDonald does not even argue that the majority of Jews have anything whatsoever to do with changing the immigration laws. Not only that, he also lucidly points out how utterly antithetical the individualist culture of Westerners is to collectivist Judaism. This makes a mockery of the jewchristian idea you and your nauseating associates have been regurgitating for weeks now. Actually, as Nietzsche and Kevin MacDonald would both be the first to point out, you fucking stupid idiots are actually the spitting image of the Jews. Why do you hate the Jews so? Is it because you see the Jews when you yourself look in the mirror? Fredrik Haerne is a fucking white Zionist. Replace "anti-Semites" with "Jews" and "White Nationalism" with "Zionism" and we have the soul brother of Meir Kahane.
It has always been the left that has been the first to push for non-White immigration, while the right has resisted but eventually caved in.
Why were Negroes brought to the New World in the first place Fredrik Haerne? Yes, it is because white oligarchs wanted to make a buck off of CHEAP labour. The Jews did not make Negroes citizens of the United States Fredrik. White Republicans did, after slaughtering white Southerners, in order to entrech their electoral control of the country by using the votes of Negroes.
The left's anti-Whiteness and international nature came naturally from communism being to such a large degree a Jewish product. Business owners, well, they follow the trends. They will be fascists in fascist countries, PC in the West today, and so on -- that's what is best for business, to not fight the ruling paradigm.
The business owners are just as much a problem, if not more of a problem than the Jews. The "Civil Rights Movement" never would have went anywhere had it not been for the pressure applied by business leaders upon the Johnson administration to tackle the "racism" which was affecting their sales in the new markets of the post-colonial third world.
Craig Smith
December 12th, 2003, 03:26 PM
Here we go again. Blame the Jews for everything. An asteroid falls from the sky, the Jews must be responsible for it all.
I agree here. The Jews are another group of parasites, but the weakness lies within the white race.
no_nomen
December 12th, 2003, 03:37 PM
The Jews are another group of parasites, but
the weakness lies within the white race.
Christ's mission in life was to break down tribal boundaries--the fences which Nature had set up with such infinite ingenuity and patience. He sought to make mankind one tribe...
[His followers] cannot succeed until they have smashed the machinery of evolution--the machinery which has made mankind what it is now.
Arthur Keith, Evolution and Ethics
"Oiy, vat a frien ve haff in JeezUs..."
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Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Here we go again. Blame the Jews for everything. An asteroid falls from the sky, the Jews must be responsible for it all. Your mom comes down with the flu, it must be the Jews casting spells. How Christian of you Fredrik Haerne!
That's "Christian"? Very funny! :)
Not only that, but can you tell us, what other people in the world are as much paranoid fanatics as yourselves? That's right - the Jews.
Yeah, und so weiter. Facts are facts, man. Learn from Kevin MacDonald. I can tell you aren't familiar with Culture of Critique. If you want a quick version, why not go to VDARE and see what he has written there? Then you'll know what we are talking about.
You people are so obsessed with the Jews that you actually become quite like the Jews yourselves.
"You people"? White Nationalists you mean? Maybe you should stick to the Opposition board, ever think of that?
And while we are on the topic of Kevin MacDonald, whose work I doubt you have even read (since 99% of you morons are functionally illiterate),
Let me see ... oh yes, I remember: you actually flat-out admitted in another thread that you consider yourself to be better than others, and that you are arrogant and snobby. Strange as it may seem. So this kind of comment is just what to expect from you, I suppose. Can you write about anything without sounding like an asshole? Yeesh, here I tried treating you like a human.
Kevin MacDonald dismisses the very idea of a Jewish conspiracy.
How interesting. Surely, noone else but you was aware of that.
Oh, wait: as a matter of fact, WNs never talk about conspiracy theories; the general opinion is that the media routinely say we believe in "conspiracies" in order to slander us. They often do that when they write about Kevin MacDonald, for example. You really think that using the word ZOG means we WNs believe it to be a conspiracy? If you had read up on the subject, for example by reading what Pierce or Strom or Linder have to say about it, you will note that they talk only about how the natural survival strategies of Jews living as a minority among others affect their host. Noone here has mentioned "conspiracy theories" -- except for you....
This makes a mockery of the jewchristian idea you and your nauseating associates have been regurgitating for weeks now.
You must be talking about the fact that Christianity has produced egalitarian ideas in European societies. Yes ... that's so ... relevant to this discussion.
Why do you hate the Jews so? Is it because you see the Jews when you yourself look in the mirror?
*LOL* What's the matter anti, taken too many drugs today? You gotta be careful when you mix the ups with the downs, man.
Fredrik Haerne is a fucking white Zionist.
*S* I see your obsessive side shows quickly. Can you ever stop thinking about me, or is it too much of a compulsion?
Why were Negroes brought to the New World in the first place Fredrik Haerne? Yes, it is because white oligarchs wanted to make a buck off of CHEAP labour.
Uhh, way to screw up and drop the ball. Did they bring the spabooks in order to give them voting rights? Hell no, they wanted to use them as slaves. No egalitarian mindset there. The egalitarian junk always comes from the left. It is the left that has pushed for flooding Europe with the dark races, and the right that resisted. (Nowadays, of course, the right has capitulated to all that leftist crap, so we need nationalist parties to clean up the place.)
White Republicans did,
Oh, wait a minute, you didn't know that the Radical Republicans were the left of the time? You haven't studied this? Well, can't say I'm surprised, really. But Fade, I suggest you try to calm down; frothing at the mouth whenever you sit down to write something can't be good for your health. You really need to learn how to communicate with other people in a normal manner. I mean, this could have been your chance to take part in a conversation like an adult, but alas....
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 04:13 PM
FTB, you're a faggot and have no idea what you're talking about. No one here even likes you.
LOL good afternoon. Its nice to see you leave your cave to join those of us in the real world every so often Mithras. What are you having for dinner this evening? Tree bark, rats, worms perhaps? Delicious, itz. :p
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 04:36 PM
That's "Christian"? Very funny!
LOL are the Jews in fact demons Fredrik Haerne? Are these demons out to subvert the Nordic race? Tell us about the Jews. Tell us about how WICKED they are. Who is gonna lead us to the promised land, the white Zion, Fredrik Haerne? :p
Yeah, und so weiter. Facts are facts, man. Learn from Kevin MacDonald. I can tell you aren't familiar with Culture of Critique. If you want a quick version, why not go to VDARE and see what he has written there? Then you'll know what we are talking about.
I have read the Culture of Critique Fredrik. Its too bad I do not have it here at the moment. I just took it back to the library the other day. I do, however, fortunately enough have Separatism and its Discontents by my side. Have you read it Fredrik Haerne? Listen to this. Just who here is imitating the Jews:
"There is an eerie sense in which National Socialist ideology was a mirror image of traditional Jewish ideology. As in the case of Judaism, there was a strong emphasis upon racial purity and on the primacy of group ethnic interests rather than individual interests. Like the Jews, the National Socialists were greatly concerned with eugenics. Like the Jews, there was a powerful concern with socializing group members into accepting group goals and with the importance of within-group altruism and cooperation in attaining these goals.
Both groups had very powerful internal social controls that punished individuals who violated group goals or attempted to exploit the group by freeloading. The National Socialists enacted a broad range of measures against Jews as a group, including laws against intermarriage and sexual contact, as well as laws preventing socialization between groups and restricting the economic and political opportunities of Jews. These laws were analogous to the elaborate social controls within the Jewish community to prevent social contact with gentiles and to produce high levels of economic and political cooperation.
Corresponding to the religious obligation to reproduce and multiply enshrined in the Tanakh, the National Socialists placed a strong emphasis on fertility and enacted laws that restricted abortion and discouraged birth control. In a matter analogous to the traditional Jewish religious obligation to provide dowris for poor girls, the National Socialists enacted laws that enabled needy young couples to marry by providing them loans repayable by having children.
As in the society depicted in the Tanakh and throughout Jewish history, the National Socialists regarded people who could not prove the genetic purity of their ancestry as aliens with fewer rights than Germans, with the result that the position of Jews in National Socialist society was analogous to the position of the Nethinim or the Samaritans in ancient Israelite society, or converts in historical Jewish societies, or the Palestinians in contemporary Israel. As with Israel, the state had become the embodiment of an exclusivest ethnic group.
Both groups had a well-developed ideology of historical struggle involving the group; Kren and Rappaport (1980, 208) explicitly make this connection when they note that National Socialism "was founded on militant movements for Zionism, socialism, or Communism - movements than had always provided their members with a strong sense of historical struggle and an indentification with group goals rather than individual satisfaction" - clearly a statement that could apply not only to Zionism but to traditional Judaism as a whole (see PTSDA, Ch. 6). Gordon (1984, 114) states that "it was clearly Hitler's conception that he was working for group goals - those of the 'Aryan people' and that his individual fate mattered little."
In this regard, Hitler's attitude that death was the only honourable fate for himself and his followers was entirely similar to that of the Jewish resistors of the period (Gordon, 1984, 115). Kren and Rappaport (1980, 217) describe a situation in which "the youth - the best, the most beautiful, the finest that the Jewish people possessed - spoke and thought only about an honourable death. . . befitting an ancient people with a history stretching back over several thousand years."
Kevin MacDonald, Separation and its Discontents: Toward an Evolutionary Theory of Anti-Semitism (Westport, 1998) pp. 162-163
Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 05:07 PM
LOL are the Jews in fact demons Fredrik Haerne?
Ah, really, you're a sick man. You write in another thread that you would have no problem with gassing every Jew on earth. Pretty odd stuff, that. But now that it suits your purposes, you pretend that others are more extreme than you. Get a life, moron.
"Demons"? Eh? You love to write your little logical fallacies after other people's posts, so if we should apply that to you -- what's up with the strawman here? Hardly worth a reply.
The National Socialists wanted to promote the interests of their race ... just like the Jews did? *gaaasp!* The HORROR! :eek:
And hey, didya know that police officers are armed just like bank robbers are? That must mean the police are just like the bank robbers!!!!!!!! :eek:
So tell us Fanatic Fade, why do you hate Northern Europe? I mean, you really seem to obsess about it to an unhealthy degree. You still haven't answered that simple question. Could it be that you're a Slav or Romanic, and that's where your hatred begins? A disgrace to other Slavs and Romanics, then. And you have yet to express any nationalist opinions at all -- but then again, an anti wouldn't, now would he?
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 05:11 PM
"You people"? White Nationalists you mean? Maybe you should stick to the Opposition board, ever think of that?
White Nationalists, by and large, are not loony toons like yourself and your associates (Gott et al). Just look at the sort of people you have allied yourself with in the past, losers like Bill White, who ripped off your readers. The circus you run here is no movement. In fact, its an embarrassment to most white people who do not want to have anything to do with you. When you are not busy discrediting White Nationalism by slandering and tearing down others you spend your time maligning our ancestors.
Let me see ... oh yes, I remember: you actually flat-out admitted in another thread that you consider yourself to be better than others, and that you are arrogant and snobby.
I am by far superior to many of the idiots here, yourself included.
Strange as it may seem. So this kind of comment is just what to expect from you, I suppose. Can you write about anything without sounding like an asshole? Yeesh, here I tried treating you like a human.
I am perfectly capable of having a civil conversation with reasonable people, for instance, ErikD who chooses not to engage in your crudeness. I will most certainly not be civil to those who have by their own actions earned my contempt.
How interesting. Surely, noone else but you was aware of that.
We are in the VNN History Forum after all. Gott, for instance, tried to say the other day that the Romans practiced universal religious tolerance prior to Christianity (ROFL!).
Oh, wait: as a matter of fact, WNs never talk about conspiracy theories; the general opinion is that the media routinely say we believe in "conspiracies" in order to slander us.
There are plenty of lowbrow White Nationalists who do believe in the existence of Jewish conspiracies. I refer specifically to the ZOG guys.
They often do that when they write about Kevin MacDonald, for example. You really think that using the word ZOG means we WNs believe it to be a conspiracy?
Many White Nationalists certainly do associate the ZOG with the existence of Jewish conspiracies.
If you had read up on the subject, for example by reading what Pierce or Strom or Linder have to say about it, you will note that they talk only about how the natural survival strategies of Jews living as a minority among others affect their host. Noone here has mentioned "conspiracy theories" -- except for you.…
LOL you want me read Strom now? Wait a second. I thought you people hated Strom. Haven’t you people been trying to tear the man down for the last several months?
You must be talking about the fact that Christianity has produced egalitarian ideas in European societies. Yes ... that's so ... relevant to this discussion.
ROFL that is bullshit. Germanic tribal societies were highly egalitarian.
*LOL* What's the matter anti, taken too many drugs today? You gotta be careful when you mix the ups with the downs, man.
I am definitely anti-Fredrik Haerne. Your Judaism for white people does disgust me, yes. What is even more ridiculous is how individuals like yourself who so imitate the Jews in all your fanatic paranoia and crudeness have the audacity to attack others by insinuating their behaviour is determined by Jewish motifs.
*S* I see your obsessive side shows quickly. Can you ever stop thinking about me, or is it too much of a compulsion?
LOL itz true. You are a white Zionist. You are the spitting image of the Jews. You emulate them and remind me of them with your insane paranoia. Oy Gevalt! Why deny it? How Jewish, Fredrik Haerne. Happy Chanukah.
Uhh, way to screw up and drop the ball. Did they bring the spabooks in order to give them voting rights? Hell no, they wanted to use them as slaves. No egalitarian mindset there.
I thought Christians were egalitarians. How can Christians own slaves Fredrik Haerne? :p
The egalitarian junk always comes from the left. It is the left that has pushed for flooding Europe with the dark races, and the right that resisted. (Nowadays, of course, the right has capitulated to all that leftist crap, so we need nationalist parties to clean up the place.)
You sound like a parliamentarian now by the way.
Oh, wait a minute, you didn't know that the Radical Republicans were the left of the time?
What? The Radical Republicans were the party of big business Fredrik Haerne.
You haven't studied this? Well, can't say I'm surprised, really. But Fade, I suggest you try to calm down; frothing at the mouth whenever you sit down to write something can't be good for your health. You really need to learn how to communicate with other people in a normal manner. I mean, this could have been your chance to take part in a conversation like an adult, but alas.…
LOL Thaddeus Stevens, a protectionist railroad tycoon, a leftist! What was the party of J.P. Morgan Fredrik?
FadeTheButcher
December 12th, 2003, 05:36 PM
Ah, really, you're a sick man. You write in another thread that you would have no problem with gassing every Jew on earth.
I don't have a problem with gassing every Jew on Earth. Do you?
Pretty odd stuff, that. But now that it suits your purposes, you pretend that others are more extreme than you. Get a life, moron.
Jews are not whites Fredrik Haerne. Just like the Jews, you try to radically critique white history and you are not going to get away with it. You even want to emulate and adopt the social customs of the Jews, like their fanatic collectivism and paranoia. Yes, that makes you a fucking extremist.
"Demons"? Eh? You love to write your little logical fallacies after other people's posts, so if we should apply that to you -- what's up with the strawman here? Hardly worth a reply.
As I explained to no_nomen in the other threads, a strawman cannot be a question. Seriously, you really sound stupid when you try to lecture me about logic.
The National Socialists wanted to promote the interests of their race ... just like the Jews did? *gaaasp!* The HORROR!
I don't have a problem with that Fredrik Haerne but it does seem that the National Socialists did emulate the Jews to a great degree. I don't have a problem adopting SUCCESSFUL techniques from other peoples myself, in principle. Wait, by Fredrik Haerne's logic, that means the jewnazis were servants of the Jews!
And hey, didya know that police officers are armed just like bank robbers are? That must mean the police are just like the bank robbers!!!!!!!!
I can distinguish between police and bankrobbers. Fredrik, on the other hand, cannot distinguish between Christians and Jews. That only just goes to show how much of a hypocrite Fredrik Haerne is, on top of being a paranoid lunatic.
So tell us Fanatic Fade, why do you hate Northern Europe?
I don't hate Northern Europe. I myself am of Northern European ancestry. I do however hate the savagery, barbarism, ignorance, and especially tribalism which is synonymous with the heathenism you glorify which ensured Northern Europe remained a backwater for thousands of years. Christianity is not innocent in this regard either, but it was certainly a step up the ladder from what came before. I see nothing glorious in wandering bands of Quadi, Thuringians, Bavarians, and Jutes fighting as mercenaries and selling their people as slaves to the Romans and Huns. Yes, the Holy Roman Empire is BY FAR an improvement upon tribalism. Yes, France is better than the Aedui.
I mean, you really seem to obsess about it to an unhealthy degree. You still haven't answered that simple question.
I don't recall failing to answer any question.
Could it be that you're a Slav or Romanic, and that's where your hatred begins?
This just goes to show how much of an idiot you are. I am of Celtic/Germanic ancestry myself. Austrian/Breton/Scottish/English. I am no fan of the Roman Empire either.
A disgrace to other Slavs and Romanics, then.
I have no idea where you got the idea that I am of Slavic/Romanic ancestry.
And you have yet to express any nationalist opinions at all -- but then again, an anti wouldn't, now would he?
I hate nationalism and petty-statism. I am an imperialist.
Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 05:44 PM
White Nationalists, by and large, are not loony toons like yourself and your associates (Gott et al). Just look at the sort of people you have allied yourself with in the past, losers like Bill White, who ripped off your readers.
Oh man, you really do live in your own little world, don't you? You see a collective where there is none. "you have allied yourself with in the past"? Have I allied myself with Bill White? When did I do that? What contact have I had with Bill White? You are delusional, my friend.
The circus you run here is no movement.
I run it? You really don't care much about facts, do you? I don't run this forum, or VNN. I'm just posting here. :rolleyes:
When you are not busy discrediting White Nationalism by slandering and tearing down others you spend your time maligning our ancestors.
I'm slandering and tearing down others? I suppose you are talking about the people who run the NA now. Poor Fanatic Fade ... I have never mentioned those guys even once, nor have I slandered any other American nationalist leader.
As for maligning our ancestors -- hehe, comes from the right person!
I am by far superior to many of the idiots here, yourself included.
We know about your delusions of grandeur already, no need for you to point them out again. :rolleyes:
We are in the VNN History Forum after all. Gott, for instance, tried to say the other day that the Romans practiced universal religious tolerance prior to Christianity (ROFL!).
Umm, you may not be aware of it, but there were many religions in the Roman Empire at first. With the rise of Christianity, that changed. Pick up a history book once in a while, 'kay?
There are plenty of lowbrow White Nationalists who do believe in the existence of Jewish conspiracies. I refer specifically to the ZOG guys.
"ZOG" is usually used simply to refer to the result of all Jewish influence put together. It is shorter than to write "those with influence in the media, those with influence in Hollywood, those in lobby groups and those in the book publishing industry."
LOL you want me read Strom now? Wait a second. I thought you people hated Strom. Haven’t you people been trying to tear the man down for the last several months?
Aw, poor guy. You really do think that VNN is owned and operated by all posters here? Whoever gave you that idea? And I hate to destroy your prejudices, but even when many criticize decisions that Strom has taken they are still open to what he writes about nationalist matters. It is called not being a fanatic, something you should try once in a while.
I am definitely anti-Fredrik Haerne.
Yes, we already know you are obsessive! *S*
What is even more ridiculous is how individuals like yourself who so imitate the Jews in all your fanatic paranoia and crudeness have the audacity to attack others by insinuating their behaviour is determined by Jewish motifs.
Yeah, yeah, and Satan stops by for a game of poker every Thursday. *S*
Tell me, in what way do I "imitate the Jews" now? And in what way would that be more "crude" than to say, like you, that it wouldn't bother you if every Jew on earth were gassed to death?
LOL itz true. You are a white Zionist. You are the spitting image of the Jews. You emulate them and remind me of them with your insane paranoia.
Paranoia, let me see ... like your fanatic hatred of Northern Europe?
And this would be fun to hear about too: in what way do I imitate Jews? By advocating racial group interests? If that's too tough for you, then there's this great place called Free Republic where people like you use to hang out.
I thought Christians were egalitarians. How can Christians own slaves Fredrik Haerne?
Okay, let me get this clear: you don't believe the people who brought over the slaves were Christians? Are you serious?
And I note that you didn't reply to my actual point, which was that the "capitalists" who brought them over didn't do it because they wanted to give them the franchise; they did it because they wanted them as slaves. Or did you think otherwise?
What? The Radical Republicans were the party of big business Fredrik Haerne.
They were leftist radicals when it came to race, among other things.
You weren't aware that it's socialists who are the foremost racemixers? *L* That it's the left, and always has been, that wants to fill White countries with non-Whites? Or are you just pretending not to know that, because of your hatred for the right? What party do the majority of Blacks in the U.S. vote for, the GOP or the Dems? Please, tell us, my dear socialist.
Fredrik Haerne
December 12th, 2003, 05:59 PM
Jews are not whites Fredrik Haerne. Just like the Jews, you try to radically critique white history and you are not going to get away with it.
*S* You are confusing me with your hallucinations. What White history have I radically critiqued, Fanatic Fade? As I recall, the one doing all the slandering of White history is ... you.
You even want to emulate and adopt the social customs of the Jews, like their fanatic collectivism and paranoia. Yes, that makes you a fucking extremist.
Don't let that vein in your forehead explode! :D
So, how do I want to emulate and adopt the social customs of the Jews? This should be interesting.
As I explained to no_nomen in the other threads, a strawman cannot be a question.
*ROTFLOL* Nice try! Well, I suppose that when it suits your purposes....
I don't have a problem with that Fredrik Haerne
Then why do you bring it up as something worth attacking?
Wait, by Fredrik Haerne's logic, that means the jewnazis were servants of the Jews!
No, by your logic. Yeesh, you're getting more incoherent at every turn!
I can distinguish between police and bankrobbers. Fredrik, on the other hand, cannot distinguish between Christians and Jews.
Oh, really? And when have I said that Christians and Jews are the same? Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else, like one of the voices in your head? :D
I do however hate the savagery, barbarism, ignorance, and especially tribalism which is synonymous with the heathenism you glorify
Really? Your ability to create illusions about your opponents is definitely extensive. When have I glorified heathenism? I simply pointed out that you lied when you said that the Russians were Vikings -- which you did to pretend that Viking society would base its economy on selling slaves to Arabs! Weird, that.
Yes, the Holy Roman Empire is BY FAR an improvement upon tribalism.
In your mind I have criticized the Roman Empire as well, I take it?
This just goes to show how much of an idiot you are.
*sniff, snivel* "You are so bad for asking me questions!" Poor Fade.
I have no idea where you got the idea that I am of Slavic/Romanic ancestry.
I didn't get the idea, I just asked. You know what asking questions is? It's a way to find out things about others without making them up on your own. You should try it!
I hate nationalism and petty-statism. I am an imperialist.
*LOL* That sounds like a winner! Well, to make my question even clearer: are you a racialist? Do you defend the interests of the White race?
Magog
December 12th, 2003, 09:10 PM
the jewish jesus freaks beat Christianity into our people. Europeans never accepted this evil religion, they had it beaten into them for a 1000 years. Just think how many Aryans these freaks killed in the name of jesus, all the while the jews just smiled and got fat off our dead bodies.
The Dhrama is the only true path. Live it, learn it, love it! The Aryan gift to our people.
Whirlwind
December 13th, 2003, 09:09 AM
Dear FTB: That's Fade-To-Black, right?
What Christian info was destroyed at Library of Alexandria? Are you denying Christianity was forced on Europe at sword point? What was the purpose of Stonehenge? ORAL TRADITION MISSING. I wonder how that happened.
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 01:42 PM
the jewish jesus freaks beat Christianity into our people.
This just goes to show how much of a fucking idiot you are. Charlemagne and Clovis were not Jewish. These people adopted Christianity for the simple reason that such a universal religion was of enormous political value. A universal religion could unite the polytheistic and ethnically diverse peoples under their realms. It could give these tribes a common value and forge them into a people. The Jews were also viciously persecuted in the Late Empire by Catholics. The Jews were seen as petty-materialists who slaughtered Christ and the Prophets.
Europeans never accepted this evil religion, they had it beaten into them for a 1000 years.
LOL here we go again, transposing false concepts onto the past. The wandering heathen tribes you refer to as "your people" never had any clue that they were "whites" or "Europeans."
Just think how many Aryans these freaks killed in the name of jesus, all the while the jews just smiled and got fat off our dead bodies.
This "people" you refer to at the time never existed before Christianity.
The Dhrama is the only true path. Live it, learn it, love it! The Aryan gift to our people.
ROFL our people right. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/features/fesitvals/images/hindu-festival270.jpg
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 01:46 PM
Dear FTB: That's Fade-To-Black, right?What Christian info was destroyed at Library of Alexandria?
I am not a Christian or a Levantine actually.
Are you denying Christianity was forced on Europe at sword point?
Christianity existed in Europe before it became the religion of Constantine. Oh, and by the way, I don't have any problem whatsoever with the fact that Christianity was "forced" onto Europe. It was a wonderful development in my view. It made the formation of great states and empires possible where they had not existed before.
What was the purpose of Stonehenge? ORAL TRADITION MISSING. I wonder how that happened.
Civilization is not throwing a few rocks together. The people who created Stonehenge disintegrated centuries before Christianity as well.
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 01:56 PM
Oh man, you really do live in your own little world, don't you? You see a collective where there is none. "you have allied yourself with in the past"? Have I allied myself with Bill White? When did I do that? What contact have I had with Bill White? You are delusional, my friend.
VNN does not exist? Is that right Fredrik? Are you saying you do not write for VNN?
I run it? You really don't care much about facts, do you? I don't run this forum, or VNN. I'm just posting here. I'm slandering and tearing down others? I suppose you are talking about the people who run the NA now. Poor Fanatic Fade ... I have never mentioned those guys even once, nor have I slandered any other American nationalist leader.
Do you write for VNN? Yes or no? I have seen your articles on the main page before along with Gott’s.
As for maligning our ancestors -- hehe, comes from the right person!
Well, we don’t even know the names of many of Fredrik’s ancestors since as heathens they were illiterates who often lived in caves and practiced slavery.
We know about your delusions of grandeur already, no need for you to point them out again.
LOL my superiority over many of the idiots here is no delusion. In fact, its quite apparent.
Umm, you may not be aware of it, but there were many religions in the Roman Empire at first.
I don’t suppose this includes the religion of the Druids since the Druids were after all slaughtered and persecuted by pagan Roman emperors.
With the rise of Christianity, that changed.
ROFL Christianity did not make the Romans slaughter the Druids.
Pick up a history book once in a while, 'kay?
You really should read one.
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 01:57 PM
I saw this Fredrik Haerne and it reminded me of you so I thought I would post it:
BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND!
The International Anti-ZOG Organization Of Empowered White Folk wants YOUR membership! Just fill out this handy-dandy form and send $150 to our address (which we cannot tell you for fear the ZOG will get us) and you too can be entered into our giant database, which we keep written on the backs of our welfare cheque receipts! Remember, no blacks nor Jews need apply. We're afraid of you.
Join our white power organization TODAY and you can win prizes! We're giving away Rahowa CDs (nobody will buy them) and free T-shirts with catchy WP slogans like "The ZOG is responsible for everything bad that's ever happened to me and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
Since you are presumably a racist, we have designed this form so that some other person with a shred of intelligence can read it out for you and explain the big words, like "name." Please ask them to print legibly.
Name:______________________________
What you wish your name was if you were German:_____________________
Age: ___ Mental Age: ___
(Note: For white power types, mental age cannot exceed 4.) 1) Educational experience:
___ I flunked kindergarten due to a ZOG conspiracy
___ I flunked Grade 1 due to a ZOG conspiracy
___ I flunked Grade 2 due to a ZOG conspiracy
___ I listen to Rev. Ron's nonexistent radio show
2) What job would you currently hold if it wasn't for the fact that you're a worthless white trash bum?
___ Ditch digger
___ Backup singer for Rahowa
___ Touring the pro nose picking circuit
___ Employment is a ZOG conspiracy
3) Briefly describe yourself.
___ I look like the big guy with the horns on the cover of that Rahowa CD
___ I look like Hitler. (Short, dark hair.)
___ I look like Les Griswold's dream Hitler. (Blonde.)
___ I look like the banjo player from "Deliverance."
4) What's your favourite colour?
___ Pure Aryan white
___ Pure Aryan white
___ Swastika black... um, non-white
___ The visible spectrum is a ZOG conspiracy
5) How many black people have you ever actually spoken with?
___ None
___ None, but I've slept with "negresses."
___ I talk to myself while watching Montel Williams
___ What do you mean, Tonya Harding is white?
6) What, to your mind, proves the existence of the ZOG conspiracy?
___ Because if there isn't, I have to admit I'm a loser
___ What does that stand for again?
___ A cousin of mine knew a guy who was the best friend of a guy whose father was the barber of a guy who was in the SA, and HE said there was.
___ Ricardo Montalban says so in "The Wrath Of Khan" if you run the VCR tape backwards.
7) What do you think you can bring to a white power organization?
___ My banjo
___ My sister, we've been married for seven years
___ I was hoping you'd give me a job
___ My Rahowa CDs
8) Who was the President Of The United States in 1957?
___ Dwight D. Eisenhower
___ Lyndon B. Johnson
___ George "The Coward" Burdi
___ A representative of the ZOG
Thanks for joining our organization of concerned white power types. See you at the trailer park!
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 02:34 PM
"ZOG" is usually used simply to refer to the result of all Jewish influence put together.
Really?
“If the Jews are using NATO as their weapon of world domination, then they are obviously stupid, because they would've done much better with Warsaw Pact. Many people claim that the Jews started Communism, and it would actually be more in their favor to strenghthen the numerically superior Warsaw Pact. Slavs are the majority in Europe, so wouldn't you want to dupe them and use them against the smaller western countries?
Some people here say they do not believe in a Slavic race, that they are more proud to be called an Aryan. It seems to me that Aryan is more of an insult, as these same people claim that most of the Aryan race has been easily duped by the much smaller Jewish race. After all, look at all the Aryan countries that are now slaves to the MASSIVE ZOG conspiracy. As a point of interest, the idea of the NWO is shared by many people. Cecil Rhodes and even Jaques Cousteau are two people who believed strongly in a New World Order. For a good primer on the New World Order, I recommend the New American issue entitled CONSPIRACY. If you read the evidence, you'll find that the NWO is more of an open agenda, not a shadowy conspiracy.”
http://www.nationalism.org/forum/04/60020.htm
Aw, poor guy. You really do think that VNN is owned and operated by all posters here? Whoever gave you that idea?
Do you write for VNN Fredrik?
And I hate to destroy your prejudices, but even when many criticize decisions that Strom has taken they are still open to what he writes about nationalist matters. It is called not being a fanatic, something you should try once in a while.
Are they open to Strom’s involvement with the National Alliance Fredrik?
Yes, we already know you are obsessive! *S*
No one is forcing you to reply Fredrik.
Yeah, yeah, and Satan stops by for a game of poker every Thursday. *S*
Tell me, in what way do I "imitate the Jews" now?
Your paranoia
And in what way would that be more "crude" than to say, like you, that it wouldn't bother you if every Jew on earth were gassed to death?
I don’t see anything crude about that.
Paranoia, let me see ... like your fanatic hatred of Northern Europe?
LOL I don’t hate Northern Europe. I hate the Vikings, yes, because they were murderers, terrorists, and slave traders. I also hate tribalism, yes, that is true, but I don’t hate Northern Europe.
And this would be fun to hear about too: in what way do I imitate Jews?
Your paranoia about the Jews is virtually identical to the Jewish paranoia about anti-Semites. LOL you feel the Jews are plotting to destroy you. That itself actually quite Jewish. You sound like Abe Foxman actually, another Holocaust could arrive at any minute. Oy vey! You people are simply the Jews of the white race.
By advocating racial group interests? If that's too tough for you, then there's this great place called Free Republic where people like you use to hang out.
LOL no, its not that you advocate racial group interests, its that you go about it in a Jewish way.
Okay, let me get this clear: you don't believe the people who brought over the slaves were Christians? Are you serious?
LOL no. Jefferson Davis was a slave owner and a Christian. It was self-evident to Jefferson Davis however that the Negroes were an inferior race.
And I note that you didn't reply to my actual point, which was that the "capitalists" who brought them over didn't do it because they wanted to give them the franchise; they did it because they wanted them as slaves. Or did you think otherwise?
It was actually mercantilists that brought the slaves over Fredrik.
They were leftist radicals when it came to race, among other things.
LOL not really. The Democratic Party was the party of the “common man” and the poor just as it is still to this day. The Republican Party was the party of the rich - the finance capitalists, the bankers, the industrialists. The freedom ideology is in no way specifically leftist.
You weren't aware that it's socialists who are the foremost racemixers?
What does socialism have to do with this conversation? The Radical Republicans were not socialists.
*L* That it's the left, and always has been, that wants to fill White countries with non-Whites?
LOL is the Wall Street Journal a leftist publication Fredrik?
Or are you just pretending not to know that, because of your hatred for the right?
I do not support democracy Fredrik. I am not affiliated with your leftwing/rightwing bullshit.
What party do the majority of Blacks in the U.S. vote for, the GOP or the Dems? Please, tell us, my dear socialist.
LOL I am no socialist you moron. Furthermore, the majority of Blacks voted for the Republican Party for over a century after the War Between the States.
Ruffin
December 13th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Fade, you know I'm a fan of yours. I appreciate the distinctions you make. With that in mind, please answer or give me your opinion of the following:
1. Does Christianity, as it exists today, serve the same civilizational purposes, generally, that you ascribe to its past?
2. Do you think that going after the Jews is or isn't a worthwhile political effort for effectively disenfranchised white men to pursue, considering the simple-minded state of political discourse in America?
3. How do you recommend changing the prevailing political order, if at all?
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 06:26 PM
1. Does Christianity, as it exists today, serve the same civilizational purposes, generally, that you ascribe to its past?
Certainly not. I have not made that argument either. The Judeo-Christians would be amongst the first I would like to send personally myself to the gas chambers. Words cannot express my contempt for these individuals. Are there Christians out there who are good people? Are there Christians out there who are pro-white and against the Jews? Certainly, and I see no reason to shun such individuals or pagans or athests for that matter. I am not a religious fanatic like Texas Dissident (Christian) or Gott (pagan) and have made no argument on theological grounds. My quarrel is with individuals who try to abuse the past to suit their own agendas. I admire the Christianity of the past because it was of enormous political value. It made great states and empires possible in Northern Europe where they did not exist before. It was progressive in that manner.
2. Do you think that going after the Jews is or isn't a worthwhile political effort for effectively disenfranchised white men to pursue, considering the simple-minded state of political discourse in America?
I think going after the Jews is great. Keep in mind that on Original Dissent I suggested that the wholesale extinction of the Jews would be a worthwhile goal. I have no objection to that. What irritates me, in this case, are simply the crudeness of many of the individuals I attacked above, the ZOG/Rahowa guys with their stupid conspiracy theories who discredit us in the public mind. I am also irritated by many of the crude imbeciles on this board who try to associate themselves with National Socialism. They only give it a bad name.
3. How do you recommend changing the prevailing political order, if at all?
If it was within my power to change things I would. How would I go about doing this, if I had the power? That is a pretty deep subject. I could write a book on it so I will only mention some of the major things I would do, or see, for starters. There are lots of things that would have to change first. One cannot build a castle out of shit after all. To begin with we would have to clean house. For starters, the Jews would be eliminated wholesale as would the Judeo-Christians. I would like to see this accomplished on a worldwide basis. If I had the power, by some act of a God, I would extripate the Negroes, the Mestizos, the Asians, the mongrels et al and all other nonwhites from ALL nominally white areas. I said before that I do not consider myself to be a nationalist. I am more of the imperialist bent myself. On many occassions I have mentioned my hatred of petty-statism. I would like to see the European Union replaced with something akin to the Holy Roman Empire, albeit a modernized and racialized version. Power would be more devolved locally yet allegiance would be held to a common Emperor and Imperium, not to any specific nation-state or sub-culture. This is close to what Yockey had in mind himself. I would definitely like to see the creation of some spiritual institution similar to the role that used to be played by the Catholic Church as a counterweight to this sort of Empire.
Ruffin
December 13th, 2003, 07:53 PM
Thanks, Fade. I hope these fellows will read and learn from what you have to say in the future before they leap off tall buildings trying to land on you. And I hope you, with a great mind at a young age, in a world of nuts, don't become too cynical later on.
I look forward to at least a book from you, btw.
Magog
December 13th, 2003, 08:23 PM
Look at their lil hats, They are the same as the jews. Jews own the jesus freaks, and that is why we are in the mess we are today. jesus was the down fall of Rome, and the rest of us.
FadeTheButcher
December 13th, 2003, 08:35 PM
Look at their lil hats, They are the same as the jews.
Who killed Jesus Magog?
Jews own the jesus freaks, and that is why we are in the mess we are today.
You are fucking insane. Religious animosity served as an enormous barrier to race-mixing for centuries. We are in this "mess" today largely because this barrier has broken down, because atheism has shattered this distinction.
jesus was the down fall of Rome, and the rest of us.
ROFLMAO Rome fell because it had become a decadent sewer on its own accord.
Fredrik Haerne
December 14th, 2003, 09:29 AM
VNN does not exist? Is that right Fredrik? Are you saying you do not write for VNN?
...
Do you write for VNN? Yes or no? I have seen your articles on the main page before along with Gott’s.
Aww, poor little Fade. You really think all those who send essays to VNN run VNN together, don't you? And you really think they all have the same opinions, the same beliefs? Have you noticed that both Pagans and CIs have sent essays to VNN? Why, doesn't that just make your widdle brain explode, wondering how VNN can hold opposing worldviews at the same time? But you see, they are not VNN's worldviews, because it's not a collective, and not an organization. It is a website to which nationalists can send their essays, and if Alex Linder so wishes he will publish them. Do you understand now? Your delusions don't work, there is no "you people" to attack.
I'm sorry, I know you need enemies to hate, and I know you need them all in one place with one set of opinions so it is easier for you to attack them.
I have never written anything about Kevin Alfred Strom, but I understand that it suits your purposes to pretend I would have the exact same opinion about him as other people you hate. But it just doesn't work that way.
Well, we don’t even know the names of many of Fredrik’s ancestors since as heathens they were illiterates who often lived in caves and practiced slavery.
*LOL* Now, you claim that you are of Germanic ancestry. Wouldn't that make your ancestors heathens as well? Wow, big fat bummer!
Uh-oh, difficult to think about, isn't it? "Go away, go away, evil thought!" cries Fade, shivering in front of his computer. Yes, Fade's ancestors are all Christians of the most fanatic stock from the beginning of time. :p
LOL my superiority over many of the idiots here is no delusion.
*S* Tell us more of how superior you are! Your arguments are so easy to take seriously then!
I bet you are so superior that the other children in school all hated you for it. Yes, the girls wouldn't go near you because you were superior, isn't that right? That's all it was, pure jealousy of your superior intellect. I bet your Christmas is going to be great, just you and a big picture of yourself to keep you company. "Who needs other people anyway! They are inferior to me!" *L*
I don’t suppose this includes the religion of the Druids since the Druids were after all slaughtered and persecuted by pagan Roman emperors.
Wow, this is such an important subject that we must spend lots of time writing about it. Druids were slaughtered? Well, that must mean the Roman Empire was way more oppressive toward other religions than Christianity, then! And all historical evidence of that many different religions co-existed in the Roman Empire must be false, because look, some Druids were killed!
Thus Fanatic Fade demonstrates to us how a fanatic uses historical facts: sparsely, and only when he can pick details that he can pretend are the whole truth. Very enlightening!
Tell us, how are other WNs to be hated for their "extremism" on one hand, when you say you have no problem with gassing all Jews on earth on the other hand? I suppose you are not an "extremist" for thinking that, eh? The rule is: "Only people who disagree with Fade can be extremists!"
Oh, and you say you are an "imperialist." Nothing extremist with that, I suppose? A purely mainstream thought, to be sure! :cool:
Fredrik Haerne
December 14th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Really?
...
http://www.nationalism.org/forum/04/60020.htm
*S* I will try to explain it to you: not all the people you hate are in league with each other. Not all the people you hate have the same opinions. Do you understand this?
Are they open to Strom’s involvement with the National Alliance Fredrik?
"They"? Oh, dear. *S* Your delusions are actually amusing.
LOL I don’t hate Northern Europe. I hate the Vikings, yes, because they were murderers, terrorists, and slave traders.
*L* Terrorists, I love it! I see Dubya has taught you well about which words are the scariest as the moment.
No other European peoples have traded in slaves? No other European peoples have raided others? Oh, Fade, how little you know! There is so much for you to learn! But be glad, I think you will enjoy learning about the world. First, start with the books for kids and then work your way up to books without pictures. :D
LOL you feel the Jews are plotting to destroy you.
*S* Again you show your paranoia. You stereotype people you don't know, because that is what makes you comfortable. Tell me, when have I written that the Jews are "plotting to destroy" any of us? One single example would be great!
Ohhh, or perhaps you have a URL to some website where an author says Jews are plotting, and as is your habit you convince yourself that all WNs you don't like have that opinion! Just like you have one URL about "ZOG" and presents that as your evidence that "we," everyone reading VNN or writing to it, believe the same things as that author.
I sure hope you won't do as many other lunatics and shoot your brains out. That brain of yours would be valuable for science to study!
LOL no, its not that you advocate racial group interests, its that you go about it in a Jewish way.
"You". I suppose you mean your boogeyman again, the people who have ever written to VNN, who you believe are a collective who "go about" things in the same way. *L*
You will have have to do better than that.
It was self-evident to Jefferson Davis however that the Negroes were an inferior race.
Gee, I am sure all of us were unaware of that!
It was actually mercantilists that brought the slaves over Fredrik.
Ohhh, mercantilists are not capitalists? Perhaps not in Fade-land. I am sure you have some details to latch onto to prove how "mercantilists" cannot be called "capitalists," so that the rich people who brought slaves to the U.S. won't upset your pretty picture of rich folks as enemies of their race.
I'm sure it will be very...interesting.... *yawn*
LOL is the Wall Street Journal a leftist publication Fredrik?
*LOL* It's a Jewish publication. Your turn.
You mean that was supposed to be your evidence that it's the right that has worked to bring in non-Whites to White countries? Wow! Yet another perfect example of the way you pick the little pieces of facts that you prefer to think about, and "forget" the facts you prefer not to think about.
I suppose the New York Times is a right-wing publication, Fanatic Fade?
I suppose the socialist parties that have brought in non-Whites to European countries are secretly conservative parties? Hey, anything that makes your worldview work.
And now you probably want to take some present-day right-wing politician as an example of conservatives who bring in non-Whites, following your pattern of "forgetting" what you don't want to see. But as I wrote earlier, the right has caved in. But we all know that it is the left that leads. Like Dr. Pierce wrote, the fall is a little faster with the Democrats, a little slower with the Republicans. It is the left that has always pushed for the destruction, and the right is two steps behind. Not surprising when one is aware of the heavy Jewish influence in the early communist parties, which shaped the socialist paradigm.
I am not affiliated with your leftwing/rightwing bullshit.
"your"? *L* There you go again. You think that all the people you hate are some sort of collective, all responsible for the ideas and actions of the rest. Aw, that's just cute. :p
LOL I am no socialist you moron.
*S* I'm sure you are not. That's why you keep making up lies about how it is the right that has pushed for anti-White legislation. And let's forget the uncomfortable truths about the immigration act of 1965 that Kevin MacDonald dug up -- why, to blame the involved Jews for that, that's just evil racist "extremism"!
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