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fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 06:43 AM
Given the fact, that the jew-appeasing group of pseudo-intellectuals at Stromfront is actively defining White Nationalism without our participation and our consent, and against White interests, it is time for us to establish the basic tenets of the White Nationalism as a political doctrine.

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 06:46 AM
Below is the project of article one of White Nationalist Position Statements, your questions and comments are very appreciated:

ARTICLE ONE: THE DEFINITION OF "WHITE" AND "WHITE NATIONALIST"

SECTION ONE:

(1) A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European ancestors, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.
(2) Establishment of seven out of eight greatgrandparents as human beings of solely European ancestry shall be construed as sufficient proof of being White.
(3) For the purpose of this Statement the terms “White” and “Aryan” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION TWO:

(1) A White Nationalist is a White person who is, by his voluntary public declaration and political activity, fully committed to the continuing survival and advancement of individual White peoples, and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) For the purpose of this Statement the terms “People” and “Volk” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

Konrad Jackson
December 7th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Very good. I would say that White Nationalism is dedicated to the survival of the White race and of White peoples, like you say, and that it is anti-Jew, anti-Marxist and anti-democratic. White Nationalism points out that today's media and government are anti-White, and considers the White race to be under deliberate attack. Therefore, White Nationalism urges revolutionary action to overthrow the current order.

Donger
December 7th, 2006, 10:56 AM
If you don't want this post let me know I will delete it. To most of you I am an anti.

Why does wn have to be anti-democratic. Here democratic meaning the people have power to limit and control their servants the government.

The problem in the USA is that we have no democracy. The Jew tyrants rule us with your wn model. Basically then you want to replace the Jew with you.
And reading most of your censorship posts fdtwainth, I see no reason to back your claims of superiority based an the amount melatonin in your tribes surface skin.

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 11:42 AM
Very good. I would say that White Nationalism is dedicated to the survival of the White race and of White peoples, like you say, and that it is anti-Jew, anti-Marxist and anti-democratic. White Nationalism points out that today's media and government are anti-White, and considers the White race to be under deliberate attack. Therefore, White Nationalism urges revolutionary action to overthrow the current order.

Thank you for your valuable comment, comrade. I will think over how to incorporate best your suggestions.

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 11:52 AM
2 donger

Why does wn have to be anti-democratic.

Because under democracy a dumb majority have power to rob and crowd out the superior minority. Additionally, democracy is inferior or worng political system: it does not balance the roles of three main political elements - people, aristocracy and king, but enlarges the power of the first element and eliminate the power of two others. The superior alternative to democracy, where the roles of three political elements are balanced, is called the republic.

Here democratic meaning the people have power to limit and control their servants the government.

That's a very limited and inprecise definition of democracy, I should say.

The problem in the USA is that we have no democracy.

The problem with U. S. is that there is too much democracy: any lunatic, looser or woman can vote and ballot at will. And the more democracy is in the U. S., the worse things become.

The Jew tyrants rule us with your wn model.

The jews rule the U. S. through the concept of modern democracy and democratic values. And the more democracy around, the more power they have.

Basically then you want to replace the Jew with you.

You are right, I definitely want to replace the democratic government of jews, masons and democrats with the republican government of nationalists, patriots, republicans, conservatives and fundamentalists. You, for obvious reasons, don't.

And reading most of your censorship posts fdtwainth, I see no reason to back your claims of superiority based an the amount melatonin in your tribes surface skin.

Well, the dog always wants to become the lion, but for obvious reasons can't. It can only bark at a lion, at a healthy distance then...

Tim Pennington
December 7th, 2006, 01:02 PM
My opinion is that they are trying to throw in a loophole with regards to extra-european ancestry with their clause stating "or a human being who, if they have non-European ancestors, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry". Basically they have introduced the old 'if it looks white, its white' which I strongly disagree with.

My personal philosophy is, if it looks white, it may be white. White looking-people with non-european ancestry should be reproductively restricted in favor of the unmixed. In addition, the northern phenotype should be promoted because it fits America's history and it is widely accepted as the benchmark for beauty (for example the skin lightening cremes, hair coloring, and colored lenses, etc. )


In order to solve our problems I feel there will need to be a period of volk and eugenics oriented fascism (possibly modeled on the NSDAP, for a period of 100 years or 5 generations), ideally yielding to minimal government racial libertarianism afterwards. Noone likes government meddling with their lives, but we need massive government power to do what needs to be done.

Below is the project of article one of White Nationalist Position Statements, your questions and comments are very appreciated:

ARTICLE ONE: THE DEFINITION OF "WHITE" AND "WHITE NATIONALIST"

SECTION ONE:

(1) A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European ancestors, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.
(2) Establishment of seven out of eight grandparents as human beings of solely European ancestry shall be construed as sufficient proof of being White.
(3) For the purpose of this section the terms “White” and “Aryan” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION TWO:

(1) A White Nationalist is a White person who is, by his voluntary public declaration and political activity, fully committed to the continuing survival and advancement of individual White peoples, and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) For the purpose of this section the terms “People” and “Volk” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

John Bender
December 7th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Why does wn have to be anti-democratic.

Because its nothing more than mob-rule. America really isn't even a democracy, its a democratic-republic. Regardless of terminology, "democracy" has failed as a political experiment. American government has turned into a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy.

Historically, the masses of people have been fickle and ignorant and have relied on a ruling class to guide them. The mob is driven by its emotions and passions and are easy to control. Give them bread and circuses and see them fall into line.

The word democracy comes from the greek "demos", meaning people. Classical Greeks were a fiercly independent people who practiced democracy, but at the same time were constantly at war with each other. The only thing uniting the Greeks was their hatred of Persians and other "barbarians". It wasn't until Alexander that Greece achieved any semblance of unity as a nation.

You can't have a true democracy/republic when foriegn interests control the government apparatus from the top down. It defeats the whole purpose of having a democracy to begin with. Is it democratic to have federal judges overturn laws that the majority of people have voted for? Does a real democratic government villify its citizens who decide to enforce the laws their own government refuses to, like the Minutemen?

Donger
December 7th, 2006, 01:21 PM
2 donger

Basically then you want to replace the Jew with you.

You are right, I definitely want to replace the democratic government of jews, masons and democrats with the republican government of nationalists, patriots, republicans, conservatives and fundamentalists. You, for obvious reasons, don't.



Don't forget the Self Chosen Ones the "aristocracy" you mentioned above. I assume you are one of those? Correct?



And reading most of your censorship posts fdtwainth, I see no reason to back your claims of superiority based an the amount melatonin in your tribes surface skin.



I was hoping you could show some proof of you and your systems superiority.

Will you censor me in the new fdtwainth world order?

Who will draw the lines of concerning the new fdtwainth world order censorship? the aristocracy?

Of the 300 million usa citizens what is your plan for the "dogs"? Slavery?
Semi slave servants to aryan aristocracy?

Will you abolish the Constitution?

Abolish voting?

Hasn't this been tried before > "republican government of nationalists, patriots, republicans, conservatives and fundamentalists" and failed?
What is different this time?

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 01:23 PM
My opinion is that they are trying to throw in a loophole with regards to extra-european ancestry with their clause stating "or a human being who, if they have non-European ancestors, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry". Basically they have introduced the old 'if it looks white, its white' which I strongly disagree with.

My personal philosophy is, if it looks white, it may be white. White looking-people with non-european ancestry should be reproductively restricted in favor of the unmixed. In addition, the northern phenotype should be promoted because it fits America's history and it is widely accepted as the benchmark for beauty (for example the skin lightening cremes, hair coloring, and colored lenses, etc. )


In order to solve our problems I feel there will need to be a period of volk and eugenics oriented fascism (possibly modeled on the NSDAP, for a period of 100 years or 5 generations), ideally yielding to minimal government racial libertarianism afterwards. Noone likes government meddling with their lives, but we need massive government power to do what needs to be done.

Thank you for your valuable comment, comrade. I will think over the best way to incorporate your suggestions.

Donger
December 7th, 2006, 01:31 PM
You can't have a true democracy/republic when foriegn interests control the government apparatus from the top down. It defeats the whole purpose of having a democracy to begin with. Is it democratic to have federal judges overturn laws that the majority of people have voted for? Does a real democratic government villify its citizens who decide to enforce the laws their own government refuses to, like the Minutemen?



Nope. You are spot on. But this is a tired cliche but I see the Jew aristocracy behind our troubles. No Jews, just right.

Suppose fdtwainth is one of the most perfect humans on Earth.

Do you really want him thinking for you?

Why wouldn't he succumb to the corruption that always seems to follow that type of power he wants?

Won't Jews try their trickery / treachery on him?

Seriously, play these mind games.

Each person in the usa could vote with a push button yes or no to the current zog war. Which would win?

Billons a your money to Israel. Yes or no. Which would win?

We need more democracy not less.

Tim Pennington
December 7th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Suppose fdtwainth has an IQ of 165, now suppose the mob has an average IQ of 90 (likely close to America's). Which do you pick to make choices that determine your future? One race-conscious Genius? or the mob collective amounting to one average and barely educated shmuck.

Donger
December 7th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Suppose fdtwainth has an IQ of 165, now suppose the mob has an average IQ of 90 (likely close to America's). Which do you pick to make choices that determine your future? One race-conscious Genius? or the mob collective amounting to one average and barely educated shmuck.

Answer mine and I'll answer yours.

Prussian Eagle
December 7th, 2006, 02:16 PM
Establishment of seven out of eight grandparents as human beings of solely European ancestry shall be construed as sufficient proof of being White.


What's the deal with that? I only have 4 grandparents.

I think it should read something like "of wholly European and [related?] bloodlines", this would pick up any Greek, Georgian, and Galatian (if any still exist) remnants in Anatolia.

Maybe also include "a person with no evidence of non-European ancestry in appearance or family history"

Konrad Jackson
December 7th, 2006, 02:49 PM
What's the deal with that? I only have 4 grandparents.

I think it should read something like "of wholly European and [related?] bloodlines", this would pick up any Greek, Georgian, and Galatian (if any still exist) remnants in Anatolia.

Maybe also include "a person with no evidence of non-European ancestry in appearance or family history"

And "related" - because you have to include the Georgians and Galatians?

But I don't want them in my nation, and I doubt that many WNs have felt much kinship with them.

Anyway, as for who is White: those who carry on White genes. You don't have to write anything more than that. These include our physical traits, and also the mental ones - such as our unique capacity for many IQ outliers. This capacity creates much more geniuses among Whites than among the other races, and ensures that we get that elite of researchers who drag the rest of society with them into the future. That must be preserved, along with our high IQ average, and our balance between the mathematical and the linguistic.

Really, I don't see what the problem is with determining who is White. I never have any problem. The question only ever arises in internet forums when a leftist brings up any little borderline case he can think of. How many people can draw the line between Canada and the U.S. on a map, precisely? Noone, I think. But how many have a hard time determining if Tennessee is in the U.S. or Canada?

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 02:57 PM
What's the deal with that? I only have 4 grandparents.

I think it should read something like "of wholly European and [related?] bloodlines", this would pick up any Greek, Georgian, and Galatian (if any still exist) remnants in Anatolia.

Maybe also include "a person with no evidence of non-European ancestry in appearance or family history"

Thank you for correction, comrade: it shall read "seven out of eight greatgrandparents"

Agis
December 7th, 2006, 03:36 PM
'Human being' is weak. From a White Nationalist perspective there are Jews, Non-Whites and Admixtures thereof. Non-Whites clearly do not belong. Non-White admixtures are undesirable. Jews are the criminals responsible for the implementation of 'multiculturalism' in White countries.

Aryan means non-jewish or 'noble'.

fdtwainth
December 7th, 2006, 04:01 PM
'Human being' is weak. From a White Nationalist perspective there are Jews, Non-Whites and Admixtures thereof. Non-Whites clearly do not belong. Non-White admixtures are undesirable. Jews are the criminals responsible for the implementation of 'multiculturalism' in White countries.

Aryan means non-jewish or 'noble'.

Thank you for your valuable comments, comrade. I will think over how to integrate best your suggestions.

Prussian Eagle
December 8th, 2006, 04:23 AM
Really, I don't see what the problem is with determining who is White. I never have any problem. The question only ever arises in internet forums when a leftist brings up any little borderline case he can think of. How many people can draw the line between Canada and the U.S. on a map, precisely? Noone, I think. But how many have a hard time determining if Tennessee is in the U.S. or Canada?

That's a good point. We know white people when we see them.

fdtwainth
December 8th, 2006, 06:17 AM
Below is the project of article two of White Nationalist Positions Statement, your questions and comments are very appreciated:

ARTICLE TWO: WHITE HOMELANDS

SECTION ONE:

(1) White Homelands are living spaces controlled by White Nationalists and dedicated to the continuous survival and advancement of White Peoples and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) Each White Homeland shall have a homeland-forming White People, which constitutes a majority of Whites with a distinct culture, language and traditions, living on the territory of a White Homeland; which has populated and developed it for generations; and the Fate of which is inseparably connected to the Fate of the White Homeland in question.
(3) Taken together, White Homelands constitute White Living Space.
(4) For the purpose of this article the terms “Homeland” and “State” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION TWO:

(1) Only White people may reside in a White Homeland.
(2) Attempts to introduce non-whites into White Homelands, as family members, sex partners, employees, or for any other reason, shall be the cause for loss of civil rights within White Homelands and expulsion from White Living Space.

SECTION THREE:

(1) White Homelands may offer comfort, aid, succour and refuge to other White Homelands, White Peoples and White Diasporas.

SECTION FOUR:

(1) White Homelands may be of any size or configuration.
(2) The forms of government within each White Homeland shall be freely selected by the homeland-forming White People.
(3) White Homelands may from time to time fuse together into larger White Homelands, or fission into smaller White Homelands. Fusion of Homelands shall only take place by mutual consent: however, there shall be a unilateral Right of Secession of any White Homeland or part of a White Homeland from the larger entity that shall not require that larger entity's consent.

Prussian Eagle
December 8th, 2006, 02:22 PM
(1) White Homelands shall offer comfort, aid, succour and refuge to other White Homelands, White Peoples and White Diasporas.

I'd rather have that as a 'may' than a 'shall'

Tim Pennington
December 8th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I'd rather have that as a 'may' than a 'shall'

I agree. I am for confederation and Isolated breeding space. If people are saying Armenians are white, I dont want to have to mix with them. That also preserves the Best white races (yes some have proven themselves more than others). Pro-white, anti-fratricide, pro-native ethnic governments are the best way in my opinion. This is how to defeat jewish multicultural internationalism, by merging into a racial block of nation states, rather than merging the nation states themselves.

fdtwainth
December 8th, 2006, 04:55 PM
I'd rather have that as a 'may' than a 'shall'

Corrected. Thank you for your valuable suggestion, comrade.

aivazovski88
December 9th, 2006, 01:12 PM
I agree. I am for confederation and Isolated breeding space. If people are saying Armenians are white, I dont want to have to mix with them. .

<<He was successfully able to prove to the Nazi Germans that Armenians were of the Aryan race as well. He even proved to the Nazi Germans that Armenians had more Aryan blood than the Germans. His endeavor helped stop the Nazi Germans from mass murdering the Armenian people. He was arrested in Sofia, Bulgaria in 1944 and sent to Moscow, then to Yerevan, then to Vladimir, where he died in prison.>>

http://www.answers.com/topic/garegin-njdeh

find another example.
not armenians.
:rolleyes:

Konrad Jackson
December 10th, 2006, 12:58 AM
<<He was successfully able to prove to the Nazi Germans that Armenians were of the Aryan race as well. He even proved to the Nazi Germans that Armenians had more Aryan blood than the Germans. His endeavor helped stop the Nazi Germans from mass murdering the Armenian people. He was arrested in Sofia, Bulgaria in 1944 and sent to Moscow, then to Yerevan, then to Vladimir, where he died in prison.>>

http://www.answers.com/topic/garegin-njdeh

find another example.
not armenians.
:rolleyes:

"Successfully" - according to Armenians.

I have seen Armenians. They are not White. The muscle structure is not the same as that of Whites, but instead similar to the Semites with their more narrow shoulders. There were Whites who lived in that area of the world once, but they obviously mixed with their slaves and servants long ago and morphed into a mongrel people. Mongrels don't carry on the White IQ outliers that are so important for a high-tech society.

But hey, let's have Armenians live in Armenia. Let's also have Nordics in Nordic nations, Meds in Mediterranean nations, and Slavs in Slavic nations. What could be more natural? Who would object to that? Except for someone who wants his own kind to mix with a better kind....

Anyway, this thread is about policy, not your endless one-issue bickering. Keep it in another thread.

Konrad Jackson
December 10th, 2006, 01:05 AM
fdtwainth, be careful that you don't make this more complicated than it need be. White Nationalism is a humble doctrine: no non-Whites, no sexual perversion, no culture-wrecking, no feminism, no value relativism, no Marxism, no populist vote-buying democracy, and we're fine. Freedom within a racial context, with an eye to eugenics, responsibility and discipline. Everything else will fall into place. I would suggest that for every paragraph, the question should be: "Is this really part of what motivates someone to become a WN? Is this something WNs in general discuss and embrace?"

What is really powerful is a list with only a dozen points or so. Something everyone can memorize. That's the kind of message that will strike true.

aivazovski88
December 11th, 2006, 07:03 AM
"Successfully" - according to Armenians.

I have seen Armenians. They are not White. The muscle structure is not the same as that of Whites, but instead similar to the Semites with their more narrow shoulders. There were Whites who lived in that area of the world once, but they obviously mixed with their slaves and servants long ago and morphed into a mongrel people. Mongrels don't carry on the White IQ outliers that are so important for a high-tech society.

.

are you sure ?
http://members.fortunecity.com/whitepride1/whitepride/whitepride/

have you ever been in armenia ?

how many armenians have you ever seen ?
and talking about racial mixture.
were suffering from racial mixture the same much as other whites.
any armenian who doesnt look white is not real armenian.
but your mistake is that your not able to know these.
so your considering all armenians non whites.
instead of helping your white armenian fellows from racial mixing.
up to 90% of armenians are as white as greeks and italians in armenia.

however in l.a
its 60% or 70%
30% are not white.
i admit that.and its good and enough number to make some of you think
that armenian nationa is not white originated nation.

and to be white is not something good in this century.
now its the winter of the white race
i swear to you i wish if i was not white.
and all armenians were 100% non white.
we would live happier in this fuckin century of enlightment and human rights.

i still dont understand why some of you think that were lying
and were not whites and were wanting so much to be whites.

Konrad Jackson
December 11th, 2006, 09:07 AM
aare you sure ?

Yep, I'm sure. There may be a few people left in the region with more White genes than the rest, but they are exceptions. By the way, I know that Kurds and Arabs in the Middle East also call themselves White. And there are Jews who desperately want to think of themselves as White. You guys need to stop parasitizing off our rep.

As for "helping my fellow armenians" to stave off racemixing, hey, do what you can, I'll give you a thumbs up from here. How exactly should I help Armenians to avoid racemixing? What do you want me to do, send money? I'll help my own kind, and that's plenty.

And this is still not the right thread for your focus on yourself. Make a thread about Armenians being White and stick to it. Don't bring it up in unrelated threads.

aivazovski88
December 11th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Yep, I'm sure. There may be a few people left in the region with more White genes than the rest, but they are exceptions. By the way, I know that Kurds and Arabs in the Middle East also call themselves White. And there are Jews who desperately want to think of themselves as White. You guys need to stop parasitizing off our rep.

As for "helping my fellow armenians" to stave off racemixing, hey, do what you can, I'll give you a thumbs up from here. How exactly should I help Armenians to avoid racemixing? What do you want me to do, send money? I'll help my own kind, and that's plenty.

And this is still not the right thread for your focus on yourself. Make a thread about Armenians being White and stick to it. Don't bring it up in unrelated threads.

say what you want about armenians i dont care.
but please dont forget to mention how many armenians have you ever
seen in your life and if you have been in armenian or not before
when you will give your opinion about armenians or about any nations.



You guys need to stop parasitizing off our rep.


The Armenians also stand out as being one of the few White peoples to have maintained their ancient warrior heritage. Long ago, our Crusaders came to appreciate their military prowess, as they joined them in repulsing the Seljuk Turks from the "Holy Lands."
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=3788


so you think that national vanguard is parassitizinng ?
and nazis were also parisitizing ?

Konrad Jackson
December 11th, 2006, 10:57 AM
so you think that national vanguard is parassitizinng ?
and nazis were also parisitizing ?


?

With "you guys" I meant you non-Whites claiming to be White; you Arabs, Indians, Persians, Kurds, Armenians and Jews.

Keep it where it belongs; you don't exactly serve your one-stop cause by posting it in every thread related and unrelated. Now I'm beginning to think Armenians must be Jews, for demanding that all discussions be about them. Care for some sugary wine?

aivazovski88
December 11th, 2006, 11:23 AM
?

With "you guys" I meant you non-Whites claiming to be White; you Arabs, Indians, Persians, Kurds, Armenians and Jews.

Keep it where it belongs; you don't exactly serve your one-stop cause by posting it in every thread related and unrelated. Now I'm beginning to think Armenians must be Jews, for demanding that all discussions be about them. Care for some sugary wine?


maybe ur blind.
but national vanguard is claiming that armenians are white.
i gave you the website maybe you should go to school
to learn how to open it.
you need to do alot.

and discussing with uneducated ignorant person like you is useless
who cant differ between the nations that you mentioned.

fdtwainth
December 11th, 2006, 05:19 PM
fdtwainth, be careful that you don't make this more complicated than it need be. White Nationalism is a humble doctrine: no non-Whites, no sexual perversion, no culture-wrecking, no feminism, no value relativism, no Marxism, no populist vote-buying democracy, and we're fine. Freedom within a racial context, with an eye to eugenics, responsibility and discipline. Everything else will fall into place. I would suggest that for every paragraph, the question should be: "Is this really part of what motivates someone to become a WN? Is this something WNs in general discuss and embrace?"

What is really powerful is a list with only a dozen points or so. Something everyone can memorize. That's the kind of message that will strike true.

Thank you for your valuable suggestions, comrade. It would be difficult to put everything into a dozen sections, yet I will keep it brief. I think of 5-6 articles of 20-25 sections en totale.

fdtwainth
December 11th, 2006, 05:24 PM
maybe ur blind.
but national vanguard is claiming that armenians are white.
i gave you the website maybe you should go to school
to learn how to open it.
you need to do alot.

and discussing with uneducated ignorant person like you is useless
who cant differ between the nations that you mentioned.

For me, armenians look and behave non-White, and I would rather trust my eyes and senses: as comrades correctly point out, a White instinctively knows another White. This been said, please limit your posts to the topic of the thread: White Nationalist Positions Statement, or even better post in OV, where your posts rightfully belong.

aivazovski88
December 12th, 2006, 08:23 AM
For me, armenians look and behave non-White, and I would rather trust my eyes and senses: as comrades correctly point out, a White instinctively knows another White. This been said, please limit your posts to the topic of the thread: White Nationalist Positions Statement, or even better post in OV, where your posts rightfully belong.

i didnt begin to post about armenians here.

but it seems that some people want to bash armenains in every single
thread.and i answered him thats it.
and i think that its my right.

John Bender
December 12th, 2006, 05:07 PM
i didnt begin to post about armenians here.

but it seems that some people want to bash armenains in every single
thread.and i answered him thats it.
and i think that its my right.

You have a 3rd grade education.

aivazovski88
December 13th, 2006, 06:49 AM
You have a 3rd grade education.

we can be classmates :D

Levon
December 13th, 2006, 08:04 AM
If people are saying Armenians are white, I dont want to have to mix with them.

I am sure Armenians are very eager to "mix" with you.:rolleyes:

fdtwainth
December 13th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Below is the project of article four of White Nationalist Positions Statement, your questions and comments are very appreciated:

ARTICLE FOUR: DUTIES OF WHITE NATIONALISTS

SECTION ONE

(1) White Nationalists shall collectively form a racial group that behaves as an evolutionary unit and works towards preserving Blood, Heritage and Freedom of White Peoples, formation of White Homelands and extension of White Living Space.
(2) White Nationalists may freely recruit new members from Whites who are not White Nationalists.

SECTION TWO

(1) White Nationalists shall enforce reproductive separation between White Nationalists and non – Whites.
(2) White Nationalists shall collectively beget, bear and rear children in sufficient numbers to maintain and increase the group's population. Those who do not reproduce shall use at least one tenth of their annual income to aid those who have children.
(3) White Nationalists may freely marry Whites who are not White Nationalists, but shall bring up their children as White Nationalists.

SECTION THREE

(1) White Nationalists shall live by a rule of mutual altruism. They shall favor each other politically, economically, and socially and they shall deal with each other honourably and honestly.
(2) White Nationalist organizations and individuals shall use at least one tenth of their annual income to promote collective projects dedicated to the welfare of White Nationalism as a whole and to charitably aid poor and needy White Nationalists in their communities.
(3) White Nationalists shall strive to avoid or resolve conflicts between White Nationalist organizations and individuals if such arise, and shall work to deescalate conflicts which they are involved in.

fdtwainth
December 17th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Below is the project of article three of White Nationalist Positions Statement, your questions and comments are very appreciated:

ARTICLE THREE: WHITE DIASPORAS

SECTION ONE

(1) A White Diaspora is a group of White Nationalists living elsewhere than in a White Homeland, and therefore not in political control of their living space.

SECTION TWO

(1) White Diasporas shall stay reproductively and culturally separate from non-Whites, and shall expel Whites who fail to do so.

SECTION THREE

(1) White Diasporas shall strive to create White Homelands by all practical means or repatriate to a White Homeland. Established White Homelands may aid White Diasporas in this effort.

(2) White Diasporas may help and protect Whites who live in the same area as them, and guide these Whites toward an awakening to White Nationalism

diabloblanco92
December 17th, 2006, 10:29 AM
You have a 3rd grade education.
English is obviously not his first language. Do you speak any foriegn language as well as he speaks English?

diabloblanco92
December 17th, 2006, 10:38 AM
I am sure Armenians are very eager to "mix" with you.:rolleyes:

I dont get it about these people. If they think Armos, SE etc, are "impure" JUST DONT MIX WITH US! If you favor "Nordic preservation" than go out and have 6 blue-blonde Uber Nords with Olaf Olsen instead of bitching on the internet and trembling with fear that White people with dark hair or eyes believe in WN
The irony is that when we DO reproduce with other Meds, such as I with my gf THEY BITCH ABOUT THAT TOO! They are a bunch of noisy attention whores that are better described as "Whine Nationalists" than "White Nationalists"

fdtwainth
December 17th, 2006, 10:53 AM
English is obviously not his first language. Do you speak any foriegn language as well as he speaks English?

This is a policy thread: if you have something to add on the subject, do it, otherwise refrain from posting spam. I respectfully ask the moderators to remove armenian garbage off the thread.

fdtwainth
December 22nd, 2006, 11:20 AM
Below is the final version of White Nationalist Positions Statement to be put to ratification by virtue of a poll. Your comments and suggestions are most welcome:

WHITE NATIONALIST POSITIONS STATEMENT

ARTICLE ONE: WHITES, WHITE NATIONALISTS AND WHITE NATIONALIST ORGANIZATIONS

SECTION ONE

(1) A White person is a human being of solely native European ancestry; or a human being who, if they have non-European ancestors, is nonetheless of a physical and genetic makeup that is within the range typical of people of solely European ancestry; or, the child of two Whites.
(2) Establishment of seven out of eight greatgrandparents as human beings of solely European ancestry shall be construed as sufficient proof of being White.
(3) For the purpose of this Statement the terms “White” and “Aryan” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION TWO:

(1) A White Nationalist is a White person who is, by his voluntary public declaration and political activity, fully committed to the continuing survival and advancement of individual White peoples, and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) For the purpose of this Statement the terms “People” and “Volk” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION THREE

(1) A White Nationalist organization is an organization that admits as their members solely White heterosexual men and women and is dedicated to the continuous survival and advancement of White Peoples and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), a White Nationalist organization may institute additional membership criteria, subject to its statutes and bi-laws.
(3) The forms of government within each White Nationalist organization shall be freely selected by its founding members.
(4) White Nationalist organizations may offer aid and alliance to other White Nationalist organizations and activists.
(5) Taken together, White Nationalist organizations constitute White Nationalist Movement.

ARTICLE TWO: WHITE HOMELANDS AND WHITE DISPORAS

SECTION ONE

(1) White Homelands are living spaces controlled by White Nationalists and dedicated to the continuous survival and advancement of White Peoples and White Race as a distinct and reproductively isolated group of human beings.
(2) Each White Homeland shall have a homeland-forming White People, which constitutes a majority of Whites with a distinct culture, language and traditions, living on the territory of a White Homeland; which has populated and developed it for generations; and the Fate of which is inseparably connected to the Fate of the White Homeland in question.
(3) Taken together, White Homelands constitute White Living Space.
(4) For the purpose of this article the terms “Homeland” and “State” shall be construed as having the same meaning.

SECTION TWO

(1) Only White people may reside in a White Homeland.
(2) Attempts to introduce non-whites into White Homelands, as family members, sex partners, employees, or for any other reason, shall be the cause for loss of civil rights within White Homelands and expulsion from White Living Space.

SECTION THREE

(1) White Homelands may offer comfort, aid, succour and refuge to other White Homelands, White Peoples and White Diasporas.

SECTION FOUR

(1) White Homelands may be of any size or configuration.
(2) The forms of government within each White Homeland shall be freely selected by the homeland-forming White People.
(3) White Homelands may from time to time fuse together into larger White Homelands, or fission into smaller White Homelands. Fusion of Homelands shall only take place by mutual consent: however, there shall be a unilateral Right of Secession of any White Homeland or part of a White Homeland from the larger entity that shall not require that larger entity's consent.

SECTION FIVE

(1) A White Diaspora is a group of White Nationalists living elsewhere than in a White Homeland, and therefore not in political control of their living space.
(2) White Diasporas shall stay reproductively and culturally separate from non-Whites, and shall expel Whites who fail to do so.
(3) White Diasporas shall strive to create White Homelands by all practical means or repatriate to a White Homeland. Established White Homelands may aid White Diasporas in this effort.
(4) White Diasporas may help and protect Whites who live in the same area as them, and guide these Whites toward an awakening to White Nationalism

ARTICLE THREE: DUTIES OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND WHITE NATIONALIST ORGANIZATIONS

SECTION ONE

(1) White Nationalists shall collectively form a racial group that behaves as an evolutionary unit and works towards preserving Blood, Heritage and Freedom of White Peoples, formation of White Homelands and extension of White Living Space.
(2) White Nationalist organizations and individuals may freely recruit new members from Whites who are not White Nationalists.

SECTION TWO

(1) White Nationalist organizations and individuals shall enforce reproductive separation between White Nationalists and non – Whites.
(2) White Nationalists shall collectively beget, bear and rear children in sufficient numbers to maintain and increase the group's population. Those who do not reproduce shall use at least one tenth of their annual income to aid those who have children.
(3) White Nationalists may freely marry Whites who are not White Nationalists, but shall bring up their children as White Nationalists.

SECTION THREE

(1) White Nationalist organizations and individuals shall live by a rule of mutual altruism. They shall favor each other politically, economically, and socially and they shall deal with each other honourably and honestly.
(2) White Nationalist organizations and individuals shall use at least one tenth of their annual income to promote collective projects dedicated to the welfare of White Nationalism as a whole and to charitably aid poor and needy White Nationalists in their communities.
(3) White Nationalist organization and individuals shall strive to avoid or resolve conflicts between White Nationalist organizations and individuals if such arise, and shall work to deescalate conflicts which they are involved in.

ARTICLE FOUR: WHITE NATIONALIST WOMEN AND GIRLS

SECTION ONE

(1) Nature and Nature’s Creator endowed White women and girls with the place of helper and follower in the eternal hierarchy of beings towards their natural protectors, benefactors and leaders – White men and boys; therefore, a White women or a White girl shall render a faithful and obedient service to her father, husband or leader; shall obey their commands issued in good faith; and shall refrain from arguments and conflicts.
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), White men and women shall have the same civil rights, and similar preconditions for the enjoyment of them

SECTION TWO

(1) White women and girls shall be admitted to White Nationalist organizations into the position of activist only.
(2) White women and girls shall not be promoted or given assignments in a White Nationalist organization, giving them direct administrative or executive powers over White men and boys - members of the White Nationalist organization.
(3) White Nationalist women and girls shall take particular care and effort in agitating and striving against feminism and feminist policies, and shall assist in rooting them out of the public life

SECTION THREE

(1) The highest and holiest of duties of White Nationalist Women and Girls is Motherhood – the continuing of the Race. Therefore, White Nationalist Women and Girls shall prepare themselves for motherhood, shall actively seek a husband in their childbearing years (age 16-27), and if unable to find one shall bear at least two White kids from White men of their choice in mutually agreed upon arrangements.
(2) White Nationalist wife shall bear to her husband at least six White kids. Non-fulfillment of child-bearing duties shall constitute grounds for divorce. For the purposes of this Statement, adoption of a White child shall constitute fulfillment of child-bearing duties.

SECTION FOUR

(1) Marriage shall be a contract voluntary entered into by a White man and a White women, solemnized by the established church, and acknowledged by the government. Heterosexual monogamy shall be the sole form of marriage acknowledged in a White Nationalist Homeland.
(2) The sole grounds for divorce shall be adultery, infertility or non-fulfillment of child-bearing duties on behalf of the husband or wife. Divorce proceedings shall be heard in the court of common law, and ¾ of the joint estate and the custody of the children born or adopted within a marriage shall automatically be awarded to an innocent party.
(3) Civil union shall be a contract voluntary entered into by a White man and a White women acknowledged by the government. A White man may enter into up to three civil unions at any time. Civil unions can be ended at any time for any reason, specified in civil union contract, provided the children adopted or born in a civil union are above five years of age.
(4) Abortion shall be allowed to be performed upon White woman or girl only in cases of grave and imminent threat to the mother’s life, incestuous or interracial conception, or grave disability of the unborn child. Abortion for any other reason shall be construed as murder for legal purposes.

SECTION FIVE

(1) White Nationalist women and girls shall be allowed to undertake education and employment only and insofar it does not conflict with their child-bearing duties. No education or employment shall be allowed to a woman or a girl, should any of her children be below five years of age at a time of commencing employment or education.
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), there shall be no legislation adopted to artificially equalize or otherwise mandate the relative numbers of White men and women within any profession or occupation including government.
(3) Notwithstanding paragraph (2), White women and girls shall not be accepted into military or drafted for the military defense of White Homelands.

ARTICLE FIVE: RATIFICATION

SECTION ONE

(1) White Nationalist Positions Statement shall be open to ratification by White Nationalists, White Nationalist organizations and White Homelands
(2) The instruments of ratification shall be White Nationalists’, White Nationalist organizations’ and White Homelands’ solemn Declaration of Allegiance, adopted in compliance with their respective statutes and bi-laws, and deposited at www.vnnforum.com

Pax Europa
January 6th, 2007, 12:10 PM
I pretty much agree with 100% of the White Nationalist Position Statements. Also, to remind others, these position statements are not set in stone. In the future, we can modify them as we see fit.

The main reason I wanted to create the WN position statements was to prevent the definition of "White" from being changed over time.

The problem with a consensus or definition of "White" is that people and things change over time. The meanings of words have changed. "White" doesn't mean the same thing 100 years ago as it means today.

"By the 18th century, white had become well established as a racial term. Among those not considered white at some time in American history are the Irish, Germans, Slavs, Greeks and other Mediterranneans."

"In a survey of college students who self-identified as “white” in a northeastern U.S. university, ∼30% were estimated to have less than 90% European ancestry."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_(people)

The consensus, if taken, 50 years from now, might not be the same as one taken today. Today, Jews are considered White by the mainstream non-WN (people who are not pro-White); also some light-skinned mestizos are considered "White" by the US government and US Census Bureau.

For example, the definition of "White" in Brazil includes people who have tan skin and visible non-European admixture. Some "blacks" here in the USA would be "Whites" in Brazil, according to their facial features, even if they have visible African ancestry! Check out this thread titled, "Brazil Has a White Majority": http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/brazil-has-white-majority-202402.html?t=202402

And I made my own thread 2 years ago titled, "The Biggest problem for us in the next 100 years (USA turning into Brazil!!)":
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/biggest-problem-us-next-100-202692.html?t=202692

fdtwainth
January 7th, 2007, 01:04 AM
I pretty much agree with 100% of the White Nationalist Position Statements. Also, to remind others, these position statements are not set in stone. In the future, we can modify them as we see fit.

The main reason I wanted to create the WN position statements was to prevent the definition of "White" from being changed over time.

The problem with a consensus or definition of "White" is that people and things change over time. The meanings of words have changed. "White" doesn't mean the same thing 100 years ago as it means today.



The consensus, if taken, 50 years from now, might not be the same as one taken today. Today, Jews are considered White by the mainstream non-WN (people who are not pro-White); also some light-skinned mestizos are considered "White" by the US government and US Census Bureau.

For example, the definition of "White" in Brazil includes people who have tan skin and visible non-European admixture. Some "blacks" here in the USA would be "Whites" in Brazil, according to their facial features, even if they have visible African ancestry! Check out this thread titled, "Brazil Has a White Majority": http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/brazil-has-white-majority-202402.html?t=202402

And I made my own thread 2 years ago titled, "The Biggest problem for us in the next 100 years (USA turning into Brazil!!)":
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/biggest-problem-us-next-100-202692.html?t=202692

Thank you for your valuable feedback, comrade. If you like this Statement, you can vote for it here:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=42729