Today I was at 7chan.org, talking with the White kids there. These kids are talented and bright, yet aliented and disorganized. For them, Comrade Hal Turner is an old-style authority, they despise.

Perhaps we should engage these kids: some of them are interested in our ideas, others are fascinated by learning new concepts. These are bright kids that hold hard questions for us, yet we can learn from them too, many things we need, in particular abour cyber-security and web-development.

Perhaps we should re-open VNN forum membership rolls, to take on these kids and the recent wave of Stormfront rejects, that are leaving, having lost trust in its leadership. This has an element of risk to it, since there would definitely be a number of undersirables, and hard discussions with new members, yet we could gain valuable ideas and perspectives in the process. This is a suggestion, that in my humble opinion, deserves a second thought.

Hello, White kids. You attacked our web-site, VNN, because we support Comrade Hal Turner, I guess. I see you are smart kids, so you should understand that important work that we do for the Future of Our Race, and your future - that you guys would have good jobs, beautiful wives and concubines, and a real Future. Those jews, they want to take all these from you. Thus I ask you - stop attacking Comrade Turner. He's doing a great job for the Movement, and you're doing a disservice for yourselves and for him.

Not a good move. Firstly, that is a false statement. I don't believe VNN as a whole, supports Turner.

Secondly, they've traced your IP and are pinging it now. They've posted your IP info as well.

Not a good move. Firstly, that is a false statement. I don't believe VNN as a whole, supports Turner.

Secondly, they've traced your IP and are pinging it now. They've posted your IP info as well.

Thank you for your valuable feedback, comrade. Basically, my talk with these kids led me to the following conclusions:

1) 7chan.org is a multiracial/multinational group of hackers, led by jewish and wealthy liberal kids;

2)most of the middle class White kids are bright and talented kids, yet aliented from democratic society with main concerns about being overcharged in college and unable to find good work;

3) the idea to attack Comrade Hal Turner's web-site is not spontaneous, but a creation of the so-called One People Project, a democratic terrorist group, that developed the idea of "ePosse", or groups of hackers, attacking WN web-sites. One People Project provides both logistical and legal support to hackers' group.

4) Many of the middle-class White kids, that compose 7chan.org are sympathetic to Our Message, and willing to debate out ideas. Some even left 7chan.org over disagreements on DDos attacks on WN web-sites.

What can we do, to disallow such DDos attacks. I talked with a programmer, who advised the following:

1) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to each individual IP;

2) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to be used by all web-site users.

Thank you for your valuable feedback, comrade. Basically, my talk with these kids led me to the following conclusions:

1) 7chan.org is a multiracial/multinational group of hackers, led by jewish and wealthy liberal kids;

2)most of the middle class White kids are bright and talented kids, yet aliented from democratic society with main concerns about being overcharged in college and unable to find good work;

3) the idea to attack Comrade Hal Turner's web-site is not spontaneous, but a creation of the so-called One People Project, a democratic terrorist group, that developed the idea of "ePosse", or groups of hackers, attacking WN web-sites. One People Project provides both logistical and legal support to hackers' group.

4) Many of the middle-class White kids, that compose 7chan.org are sympathetic to Our Message, and willing to debate out ideas. Some even left 7chan.org over disagreements on DDos attacks on WN web-sites.

What can we do, to disallow such DDos attacks. I talked with a programmer, who advised the following:

1) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to each individual IP;

2) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to be used by all web-site users.

Wasn't sure if you knew they had your info. They stated they had banned you so I didn't know if you still had any access to their boards.

I do believe they are a bunch of kids. There are so-called "adults" there, but they seem to be pedophiles posting there to meet and interact with the kiddies.

I don't believe they are under any direct jew influence, nor do I believe they even knew what OPP or DLJ was until a day or so ago. They most likely researched our "enemies" and found that Turner has a history with DLJ and used that info as part of their "interent terror" campaign. I saw that Jenkins was spouting off about the attacks on his site, but I think he's just jumping on their bandwagon. If OPP, ARA or any of the others were as smart as these hackers, none of our sites would ever be functional. Do give them credit they don't deserve.

Like I said in other threads, I've listened to Turner's show often and I generally agree with what he says, but we are all very familiar with Turner's tendancy to, shall we say, bend the truth and we are all familiar with the neverending pledge drive. It's quite obvious that this was his problem and he brought it here. He should take it back to his own domain.

Aside from causing our board to be clogged up for days on end and producing a show that he demands we pay him to do, what has Turner done for VNNer's lately?

I haven't had a look at the *chan boards today, but last night they were saying that when Turner is banned they will stop the VNN attack. I think it's worth a shot.

Your suggestions for limiting bandwidth may work, but rather than limit it for all IPs, I think a strict limit on that one account's band width would solve the problem.

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Aside from causing our board to be clogged up for days on end and producing a show that he demands we pay him to do, what has Turner done for VNNer's lately?

He is present at every our rally, and he greately energizes new recruits. Mr. Turner is respected on the streets, and not only among American skins, I can assure you.

I haven't had a look at the *chan boards today, but last night they were saying that when Turner is banned they will stop the VNN attack. I think it's worth a shot.

I would respectfully disagree. We shall not be intimidated by threats, nor give up to our enemies, but shall stand by WN activists, who would stay by us when we need it. I have full confidence, that Comrade Hal Turner would stand by us in times of trouble.

Your suggestions for limiting bandwidth may work, but rather than limit it for all IPs, I think a strict limit on that one account's band width would solve the problem.

That wouldn't work, unfortunately, since the hackers can line up many thousands of hacked computers and still capture all the web-site bandwidth with single IP daily bandwidth limit only. Global daily limit for all connections in turn, assures that not all bandwidth is spent when attack commences, and huge charges like those inflicted by 7chan kids, simply cannot accumulate.

I didn't mean a strict limit for the hacking IPs, I meant an strict limit for Turner's IP. A very strict one.

I haven't had a look at the *chan boards today, but last night they were saying that when Turner is banned they will stop the VNN attack. I think it's worth a shot.




I wonder who they'll demand be banned next? Will it be you or I? ;)


-Jim

So lets just trow in the towel and give them what them what they want. Now get get your ass out and start knocking up a bunch of turds on stilts, hurry up now give em' what they want.:rolleyes:

I wonder who they'll demand be banned next? Will it be you or I?

lol. Could be either one of us I suppose, Jim. We know they don't like you and the other night they labeled me as a "spy" when they were screwing with your accounts, so we're probably both on their list just under HT.

Bottom line is that had I pulled some stupid crap that caused massive bandwidth drainage from VNN and recieved a ban for it, I would own up to my actions and accept the ban quitely and go on my way back to my own domain. As a self-respecting man of his word, which I am and which I believe you are, I'm guessing you would probably do the same.

If the situation was different, meaning if the hackers were actually opp, ara or the adl, I'd be supportive of the battle. These guys are just young punks with alot of free time on their hands. This is all about some stupid prank phone calls. It's not about VNN or our views.

I hope you guys don't group me in with the "Hal bashers", that's not what I'm here for. My opinions are based on what I've observed myself through his show and website over the past year and a half. As I said, I like the show and what he has to say, but all the drama is too much at times. There are more important things we should be dealing with.

What I would really like to see would be for all of the "personalities" involved in WN to put their egos and differences aside and try working together for our common cause, the future of our people.

Just got the following:

My web site has been turned off

I regret to announce that my web site has been turned off. The attacks against my server proved to be "disruptive" to the entire Class 1 data center in which it was housed.

I am, as of now, DEFEATED.
Off the Internet except for this (highly-content-restricted) blog, off the air, dead in the water - with remaining invoices for thousands of dollars in bandwidth (intentionally used by the attackers,) on their way for me to pay.

I have been completely and totally destroyed by attacks emanating from a criminal conspiracy of people at 4chan.org, 7 chan.org, ebaumsworld.com, nexisonline.com and others.

These criminals attacked my server relentlessly for ten days. This was criminal and civil Tort under 18 USC 1030, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

They publicly and repeatedly told me they would not stop unless I agreed to shut down my web site and shut off my radio show. This was blackmail; criminal felony Extortion. I would not give in.

They called my house hundreds of times a day with crank phone calls. This was unlawful telephone harassment in violation of state and federal laws.

They placed phony orders for hundreds of dollars in Pizza from Papa Johns, and two other local Pizza shops, DEFRAUDING those companies who delivered those unwanted pizzas to my house. The orders were placed by internet and by telephone meaning the perpetrators committed 3 counts of WIRE FRAUD.

Today (Sun. Dec. 31) alone, three separate Chinese restaurants were defrauded by these same fake orders for food to be delivered to my house. The fraud was perpetrated by telephone, making it 3 more counts of WIRE FRAUD.

They placed fraudulent orders worth tens of thousands of dollars for supplies of shipping boxes, envelopes, labels and packing slips to be delivered to my house from DHL and Ebay. These companies shipped these supplies thinking I had applied to be a new agent of theirs, only to find out when the shipments arrived that the whole order - placed via internet - was faked.

These four for five separate fake orders for shipping supplies came in via internet, making the perpetrators guilty of four or five more counts of WIRE FRAUD.

Since the EBAY supplies arrived via U.S. Mail, the entire fake order constitutes MAIL FRAUD.

The criminal actions of these people have destroyed my web site, my radio show and my web site hosting company. The owners of the web sites 4chan.org, 7chan.org, ebaumsworld.com and nexisonline.com were all told these acts were taking place.

Despite being told these activities were ongoing and being organzied via their web sites they did NOTHING to stop it. I even went so far as to contact their web hosting companies who did NOTHING to stop any of this.

In my personal OPINION, I believe their lack of action makes the owners of those sites accessories to the crimes listed above -- but that is just my opinion.

The "Abuse" departments at many of the ISP's took days to respond and even longer to act. In the end, most did little or nothing.

The criminals operating out of 4chan.org, 7chan.org, ebaumsworld.com and nexisonline.com have also publicly announced their intentions to do the EXACT SAME THING to:

VNN and its forum
Stormfront
The Prussian Blue Web Site
James Wikstrom's web site

The IP Addresses which attacked my server with thousands and sometimes even hundreds of thousands of connections were:

149.9.0.56
193.216.160
206.173.55.132
207.210.106.10
212.42.236.140
24.159.176.165
58.108.89.60
62.252.0.7
67.165.33.191
68.22.192.115
68.40.129.123
70.189.235.66
70.239.217.153
71.101.78.48
71.2.201.183
72.88.186.129
74.138.78.84
82.182.59.155
84.44.216.60
87.101.240.7
88.198.180.62
88.64.146.166
149.9.0.57
195.54.209.165
202.0.185.5
202.142.220.65
207.210.106.10
218.44.29.16
220.157.175.94
24.5.212.68
24.62.114.185
24.71.115.58
60.254.44.87
61.62.74.78
66.33.193.52
66.98.131.121
66.98.238.8
67.183.68.252
68.1.82.185
68.103.156.90
68.147.62.96
68.225.225.13
69.227.42.131
70.117.163.73
70.54.1.76
71.76.218.251
72.232.196.154
74.234.165.50
76.171.137.130
81.173.236.136
83.216.204.134
85.196.0.146
86.132.209.72
88.198.180.62
72.232.214.186
72.29.75.46
74.109.97.7
81.169.155.246
81.173.151.54
81.234.214.225
82.21.40.32
82.41.161.16
82.41.56.140
82.98.78.106
84.217.71.46
204.210.237.226
63.230.211.245
12.226.57.36
128.197.11.30
142.163.85.84
18.246.2.33
195.71.8.10
202.147.242.13
204.210.237.226
206.188.226.61
219.114.62.185
24.124.55.130
24.162.208.62
24.180.26.203
71.169.74.142
24.218.184.2
43.244.59.73
62.79.64.148
63.230.211.245
64.174.4.217
65.35.190.139
65.35.75.70
66.56.76.250
67.184.0.254
68.52.65.122
69.120.133.11
69.134.191.101
69.245.32.7
69.30.67.184
71.108.88.127
71.98.74.251
72.208.18.35
80.90.40.153
74.139.32.212
84.217.71.46
24.131.33.47
24.218.184.2
81.173.151.54
71.126.3.120

:147.226.233.21
195.175.37.6
206.82.86.18
207.210.106.10
212.42.236.140
216.176.113.10
24.31.178.78
38.98.116.50
60.228.128.80
65.13.52.4
65.98.137.77
65.104.156.195
66.195.200.20
67.142.130.19
68.40.129.123
68.40.42.147
68.225.217.33:
69.116.203.81
69.69.108.141
68.225.217.33
69.120.133.111
69.91.114.234
69.205.22.141
70.52.177.65
70.114.16.43
70.224.79.97
72.152.140.120
74.103.221.226
75.110.156.88
75.177.15.120
76.176.195.68
80.229.162.137
81.173.159.103
81.206.59.7
84.121.126.219
86.131.41.205
87.106.48.72
87.98.217.146
147.226.233.219
206.82.86.18
207.108.77.4:
24.159.176.165
24.159.176.165
24.164.89.91
24.98.76.142

I am not certain where to go from here. My entire existence - short of my physical presence on this planet - has been utterly wrecked, by people I never met from places I've never been.

Hal Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Road
North Bergen, NJ 07047-1900
USA

secret 12@optonline.net

I guess, we would be wise, given the intentions of antifa dogs, instituting both individual IP and global IPs daily bandwidth limits asap

Today I was at 7chan.org, talking with the White kids there. These kids are talented and bright, yet aliented and disorganized. For them, Comrade Hal Turner is an old-style authority, they despise.

Perhaps we should engage these kids: some of them are interested in our ideas, others are fascinated by learning new concepts. These are bright kids that hold hard questions for us, yet we can learn from them too, many things we need, in particular abour cyber-security and web-development.

Perhaps we should re-open VNN forum membership rolls, to take on these kids and the recent wave of Stormfront rejects, that are leaving, having lost trust in its leadership. This has an element of risk to it, since there would definitely be a number of undersirables, and hard discussions with new members, yet we could gain valuable ideas and perspectives in the process. This is a suggestion, that in my humble opinion, deserves a second thought.





You know if you think about it, were preaching to the choir over here. I tend to throw a liitle juvenile humour into my news reporting that they might go for. Those are the kids we should try to target, not to say we abandon our home base.

Thank you for your valuable feedback, comrade. Basically, my talk with these kids led me to the following conclusions:

1) 7chan.org is a multiracial/multinational group of hackers, led by jewish and wealthy liberal kids;

2)most of the middle class White kids are bright and talented kids, yet aliented from democratic society with main concerns about being overcharged in college and unable to find good work;

3) the idea to attack Comrade Hal Turner's web-site is not spontaneous, but a creation of the so-called One People Project, a democratic terrorist group, that developed the idea of "ePosse", or groups of hackers, attacking WN web-sites. One People Project provides both logistical and legal support to hackers' group.

4) Many of the middle-class White kids, that compose 7chan.org are sympathetic to Our Message, and willing to debate out ideas. Some even left 7chan.org over disagreements on DDos attacks on WN web-sites.

What can we do, to disallow such DDos attacks. I talked with a programmer, who advised the following:

1) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to each individual IP;

2) Limit the amount of bandwidth, allocated daily to be used by all web-site users.





DO not, I repeat do not go over their without using a proxy.

You know if you think about it, were preaching to the choir over here. I tend to throw a liitle juvenile humour into my news reporting that they might go for. Those are the kids we should try to target, not to say we abandon our home base.

Thank you for your valuable feedback, Comrade. Personally, I think, these kids can be productively engaged, and perhaps even turned into full-pledged activsts.