Are racialists guilty of this?


"The passion for setting people right is, itself, a dis-ease with the self." - Marianne Moore

"Many of us have a need to be right. Usually this stems from the inner cry, 'There is something wrong with me.' We then set out to make ourselves right by making someone else wrong.We may plan what to say. We may canvass others to elicit their support. In some cases. we simply attack, letting others know how wrong they are and why we think so. Self righteousness is an affliction. It is an inner desire to be accepted and valued. It is a camouflage for feelings of worthlessness. No matter how wrong another may be, it will never make you right. Self-value, self-worth and self-esteem cannot come as a result of being the only right one. It must come from knowing who you are from within and feeling good about it. ... We must get right with ourselves. Once we do, we will have so much to do, we will not have time to keep track of who is wrong."



Time for some introspective thought about why we do what we do...

Dont' mind me, I go through this every time I quit smoking. :p But this time, this time is different. I'm more at peace than usual and I've found myself looking inside and accepting responsibility for things I didn't even think were wrong before.

And reading this has literally made me come to question my whole position as a racialist. I need to know that this isn't all this really is. I need to know if other racists have found themselves thinking along these lines.

Am I alone in wondering from time to time if racists are just behaving like wounded immature brats?

How come more good hearted, well intentioned, loving people aren't racists? Why is racialism always associated with anger & obnoxious behavior? No, it's not the media. Racialists really do act out that way. If the racist position is so right then why do the majority behave so badly, act out so angrily, no class, no tact.. these are childlike traits! And we accept these standards as if a higher standard isn't even achievable. Other groups (political, religious, social... etc) tend to demand emotional stability alongside intellectual contributions. Why don't racialists?

Is it because deep down we know it is disfunctional and wrong to be so hateful that our peers (racist ones, at least) don't even check us when we act out that way? It's damn near expected that a racist will also be angry and wounded. Every racialist group wants to feel so superior yet the standards of how we present ourselves are so low. Why? If this is so right why are the loudest champions potty-mouths and manic depressives? These traits as an accepted common denominator are almost exclusively unique to racialists.

If racists are so right, why do most act so wrong?

Jesus had a great message, yet he didn't have to be a distasteful out of control potty mouth to win converts.

Meh, just a little food for thought...:D

I have little patience for psychoanalist BS. First of all, it's not scientifically valid and secondly it becomes little more than an all purpose cudgel with which to bash one's ideological foes; which is what the jews intended it to be.

If you think WN are any more obnoxious than any other group of forum posters then I would say you have to get out (on the internet) more. I lurk on op forums occasionally and I see the same sort of flaming and back biting that I do here. It's not a function of WN per se, rather it is the nature of the net.

If you see anything more than that then it is probably a reflection of your own mentality.

-Brian

I have little patience for psychoanalist BS. First of all, it's not scientifically valid and secondly it becomes little more than an all purpose cudgel with which to bash one's ideological foes; which is what the jews intended it to be.
Instrospective evalution aka "wondering if you're doing the right thing" shouldn't have to be a scientifically validated process.

It should be a simple, natural check we all put ourselves through from time to time to be sure of why we are doing what we are doing.

That is, if you care...

I do.


If you think WN are any more obnoxious than any other group of forum posters then I would say you have to get out (on the internet) more. I lurk on op forums occasionally and I see the same sort of flaming and back biting that I do here. It's not a function of WN per se, rather it is the nature of the net. Not just white ones... Black ones, too.

All Racialist/Nationalists should be checking their emotions and motives from time to time...

Few do.

Hey Cryptoracist,

You know how I express my racism? By taking good care of my White daughter. I take her for bicycle rides around the neighborhood for exercise, take her to ballet school, singing lessons, piano lessons, gymnastics and soccer. And we raised her to be bilingual Russian/English.

When she encounters anti-White propaganda in school or on billboards or on the radio, I explain to her that it's Jewish propaganda designed to make White people feel bad about themselves just for being White.

I also explained to her the whole "whigger phenomenon" by taking her to a drugstore in a Black neighborhood and showing her all the "beauty products" to make Blacks look more White like hair straighteners, skin lighteners, etc. I showed her before and after pictures of Jennifer Lopez, when she was a teenager and looked like a real mulatto/spanic, and now where she used skin lightener and plastic surgery and hair straightener to try and look like Marilyn Monroe or something.

So she understands -- if race-mixing is so great, why do mulattoes spend so much money trying to look like their White parent?

Hey Cryptoracist,

You know how I express my racism? By taking good care of my White daughter. I take her for bicycle rides around the neighborhood for exercise, take her to ballet school, singing lessons, piano lessons, gymnastics and soccer. And we raised her to be bilingual Russian/English.

When she encounters anti-White propaganda in school or on billboards or on the radio, I explain to her that it's Jewish propaganda designed to make White people feel bad about themselves just for being White.

I also explained to her the whole "whigger phenomenon" by taking her to a drugstore in a Black neighborhood and showing her all the "beauty products" to make Blacks look more White like hair straighteners, skin lighteners, etc. I showed her before and after pictures of Jennifer Lopez, when she was a teenager and looked like a real mulatto/spanic, and now where she used skin lightener and plastic surgery and hair straightener to try and look like Marilyn Monroe or something.

So she understands -- if race-mixing is so great, why do mulattoes spend so much money trying to look like their White parent?You might be teaching her to compare herself to other women so as to instill a spirit of envy in her...

Reading your post I thought to myself "if my mom had done this with me... I'd be left wondering why she would go thru all that trouble analyzing another women's beauty like this? Is she in some kind of competition with these women?"

And you have to admit, it's a bit weird to waste precious quality time that you have with your kid desperately trying to explain away another's attractiveness, when you could have spent that time teaching her beauty tips that would actually help her by enhancing her own beauty. That would be far more practical.

Spending your valuable family time together teaching her about another women's beauty only looks kinda jealous and kids ain't that stupid.

"Why is my mom/dad so obsessed with proving another person isn't so attractive? Doesn't mom/dad love me enough to spend time focusing on improving my own life?" That's exactly what I'd be wondering.

If you were my parent I'd be wishing you'd spend our next excursion focusing on us and our family.

When a dumb nigger repeats jewish lies, as in case with ths thread, it can only give a White Nationalist a healthy dose of laughter :D I guess it belongs to OV.

You've touched upon the reason that the WN movement will never achieve anything. Regardless of any intellectual validity it may hold, it's supporters are delusional. They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness, and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can, rather than bitching about all life's "imperfections". Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies. We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment. You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow. Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.


Are racialists guilty of this?


"The passion for setting people right is, itself, a dis-ease with the self." - Marianne Moore

"Many of us have a need to be right. Usually this stems from the inner cry, 'There is something wrong with me.' We then set out to make ourselves right by making someone else wrong.We may plan what to say. We may canvass others to elicit their support. In some cases. we simply attack, letting others know how wrong they are and why we think so. Self righteousness is an affliction. It is an inner desire to be accepted and valued. It is a camouflage for feelings of worthlessness. No matter how wrong another may be, it will never make you right. Self-value, self-worth and self-esteem cannot come as a result of being the only right one. It must come from knowing who you are from within and feeling good about it. ... We must get right with ourselves. Once we do, we will have so much to do, we will not have time to keep track of who is wrong."



Time for some introspective thought about why we do what we do...

Dont' mind me, I go through this every time I quit smoking. :p But this time, this time is different. I'm more at peace than usual and I've found myself looking inside and accepting responsibility for things I didn't even think were wrong before.

And reading this has literally made me come to question my whole position as a racialist. I need to know that this isn't all this really is. I need to know if other racists have found themselves thinking along these lines.

Am I alone in wondering from time to time if racists are just behaving like wounded immature brats?

How come more good hearted, well intentioned, loving people aren't racists? Why is racialism always associated with anger & obnoxious behavior? No, it's not the media. Racialists really do act out that way. If the racist position is so right then why do the majority behave so badly, act out so angrily, no class, no tact.. these are childlike traits! And we accept these standards as if a higher standard isn't even achievable. Other groups (political, religious, social... etc) tend to demand emotional stability alongside intellectual contributions. Why don't racialists?

Is it because deep down we know it is disfunctional and wrong to be so hateful that our peers (racist ones, at least) don't even check us when we act out that way? It's damn near expected that a racist will also be angry and wounded. Every racialist group wants to feel so superior yet the standards of how we present ourselves are so low. Why? If this is so right why are the loudest champions potty-mouths and manic depressives? These traits as an accepted common denominator are almost exclusively unique to racialists.

If racists are so right, why do most act so wrong?

Jesus had a great message, yet he didn't have to be a distasteful out of control potty mouth to win converts.

Meh, just a little food for thought...:D

You've touched upon the reason that the WN movement will never achieve anything. Regardless of any intellectual validity it may hold, it's supporters are delusional. They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness, and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can, rather than bitching about all life's "imperfections". Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies. We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment. You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow. Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.

Ah, so there are more healthy thinkers than I thought! I found another awesome quote last night that touched on what you said here in more depth... I'm tempted to go look it up and post it too.

It was so very insightful.

And I want to re-emphasize that this is a plague that not only taints the growth of WN movements but BN movements as well.

I'm saying we could all stand to look inside a little more. Even if anger and sadness got us here (Nationaist movement) it shouldn't be the main component that is compelling us to stay. We need to evolve!

Dagburnit, I've gotta find that quote now, it was that deep.

BRB :p

The more I learn and research the Jewish problem The more I feel I am doing the right thing for myself and all other whites.....If the Jewish problem was any more obvious it would jump out and bite us all (I suppose it has in many ways).

Questioning myself and my racist beliefs has only made me believe in them more and more.

WN's use facts and numbers to prove their points....Most of the time from anti WN sources.

Jews, Negros, Hispanics and their apeasers NEVER use solid evidence in the form of facts and numbers...They use fear and emotional displays to prove their points. Anyone with any sort of logic based thinking can see that is desperation or a trick....Nothing more.

Crypto.....I believe that you come here mostly to read our views and opinions because perhaps you have a sort of logic in your mind that tells you we are right. I have been to black power, and Jewish sites and chatrooms and dont last long because the logic is just not there. As soon as I present concrete evidence everyone gets emotional and talks nonsense. I understand that you come here for the same reason that we WN's do.....To further your education of truth and too quite simply get truthful media that the Jew Media wont give you. Your Negro blood keeps you from just admiting that you accept our obvious truths.

Also you never answered my previous question in the Mating section of this forum......

Are you a prostitute for "Pleasure Ryde" or did you steal that personality from the person you claim to be?

We all wait for some truth for once.....

Regards,

PF

You've touched upon the reason that the WN movement will never achieve anything. Regardless of any intellectual validity it may hold, it's supporters are delusional. They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness, and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can, rather than bitching about all life's "imperfections". Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies. We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment. You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow. Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth. I also need to say that this post by you was so impressive to me. It strikes me as one of the more intelligent posts I have read ever on VNN. Thank you. Sincerely. This is very stimulating food for thought. Now, about that quote I went looking for...
It went a little something like this:

"True power, our power, is in our diversity and difference. ... It is not in what we call unity. We are already unified throug breath. We want to deny our unity because we look different, act different, and we believe we want different things. The elf, oak, and pine live together to create the mighty forests. The shark, dolphin, and whales live together to create the wealth of the oceans. The blue jay, hawk and robin sing together to create the melody of the sky. The lion, elephant, and jaguar live together in the wonderment of the wild. They all want the same things: food, protection for their young and the opportunity to move freely. The animals do not blame or judge. They live without anger or fear. Are the animals just stupid? Or have we become too smart?"

Do you think if animals could talk that they actually would halt teaching survival skills such as hunting just to teach their young why another animal isn't as beautiful as they think they are?


Do you think an animal would waste a minute trying to compare itself to the other animals for any reason? How would it help the animal to survive? So then... how does it help us to survive to explain away another humans beauty or intellect?

Aren't we feeling silly yet? :confused:



haha on a side note... it might just blow your mind a little bit when i tell ya'll what book I'm getting these quotes from... :p

One more thought on the animal thing...

If for whatever reason dogs and cats were suddenly forced to live in a confined space together... we all know this is dangerous. I believe that these animals would be intent on separating, but they'd never be stupid enough waste time discussing who is cuter... puppies or kittens. They'd never waste a moment analyzing who is more intelligent.

They would just focus on separation, without judgement. Judging such ridiculously superficial irrelevant issues would seem irresponsible and unnatural.

The judgement part is what makes it look like separation isn't really the goal with human separtists of today. If those animals were to begin to compete with each other instead of just focusing on getting out of their confinement, we'd question what the hell is wrong with these animals, no?

Just separate and/or escape confinement, who cares who's prettier? Or wittier?

Sometimes I think separatists are too focused on trying to hurt someone feelings than on the critical issue at hand... separation.

So why are you really a Nationalist? Do you really want a separate living space or do you just wanna hurt somebody's feelings because of past emotional trauma?

It's time to look inside and grow up a little. Nobody's feelings are getting hurt (thats just silly) and we are wasting valuable time that we could be gaining political ground and public credibility trying to argue about who is prettier and wittier.

This is why I think it is critical that Nationalists take an introspective moment to understand what they are doing and why. Because those with the wrong intent are seriously holding back the process of those with the right intent.

2 steps ahead, 3 steps back.

Are we really looking for progress or are we just venting cause we're sad? :(

Are racialists guilty of this?


"The passion for setting people right is, itself, a dis-ease with the self." - Marianne Moore

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Am I alone in wondering from time to time if racists are just behaving like wounded immature brats?

How come more good hearted, well intentioned, loving people aren't racists? Why is racialism always associated with anger & obnoxious behavior? No, it's not the media. Racialists really do act out that way. If the racist position is so right then why do the majority behave so badly, act out so angrily, no class, no tact.. these are childlike traits! And we accept these standards as if a higher standard isn't even achievable. Other groups (political, religious, social... etc) tend to demand emotional stability alongside intellectual contributions. Why don't racialists?

:DHate is, of course, an emotion. Emotions arise as a result of external conditions.Generally they tend to be consciosly actors manipulating their emotions thus one does not necessarily allow his emotions to govern his behavior , which at some point one might perhaps hate another to the point of retaliation .

In any event, acting upon a feeling of hate in such a manner as to render impotent the object of hate, always alleviates that hate thus producing a sense of relief. Hate apparently is a very uncomfortable , and burdensome and people generally avoid this emotion.



Another source of hatred starts with something disliked abee buzzing over our head, and if the bee persists our emotional escalates to the point of hostility.


White people, who express a desire to have a community of their own,and simply wish to be left alone ,daily they are burdened, like a bee,the leftist ect resort to name-calling such as "supremacists," "nazis," "haters," "racists" and so on .



In many cases, the Whites do have their emotions amplified into what could be called hate. They hate the people who would deny them their Declaration of Independence right to separate and form a new union since the present government fails to redress their collective grievances.


The leftist ect who oppose separation Hate themselves. The "anti-haters" are never filled with love. They simply hate a hate which isn't of their own creation. This, in today's politically correct bug house, is considered "good" hate. Unlike the hate felt by White separatists ect, which is a reaction to external circumstances, the hate of the anti-haters is a product of the inner self. It is virtual and because of this, it is far more corrupt, and perverted, because it feeds upon itself.


Hate is an emotion which can not be legislated,or abolished. And this is equally true with all other emotions. The outward expression of an emotion, the pressure cannot be contained forever which the jews are constantly fermenting.

Hate is, of course, an emotion. Emotions arise as a result of external conditions.Generally they tend to be consciosly actors manipulating their emotions thus one does not necessarily allow his emotions to govern his behavior , which at some point one might perhaps hate another to the point of retaliation .

In any event, acting upon a feeling of hate in such a manner as to render impotent the object of hate, always alleviates that hate thus producing a sense of relief. Hate apparently is a very uncomfortable , and burdensome and people generally avoid this emotion.
But then it still doesn't make good productive sense to just act on it without self-discipline or a useful direction.

An example might be some of the posts on forums that are basically just angry immature insults

You said this...
In any event, acting upon a feeling of hate in such a manner as to render impotent the object of hate, always alleviates that hate thus producing a sense of relief. But none of that is being accomplished! No one is rendered impotent by angry little boys posting insults on the internet. I argue that the only thing being accomlished is that the one rendering the hate looks as if they have no class, tact, or self-control. But the intended target suffers no consequence. The "hater" suffers it all. So acting upon that feeling renders the hater impotent, not the intended target... they remain completely unaffected. In fact, if the target ignores them they can acutally come out looking superior to the raging out of control "hater". That's about it.

Restraining yourself from carelessly releasing your emotions, acting carefully in practical and appropriate ways is the best thing you can do for your people. Only children feel like every emotion must be acted on without regard for how stupid they will make their family look. Adults use something called discretion.

Another source of hatred starts with something disliked abee buzzing over our head, and if the bee persists our emotional escalates to the point of hostility.This is an excellant opportunity for you show yourself at your best. You use this as an opportunity to show your adversaries that you can practice caluculated self control. If its obvious that your emotions are controlling you. your enemies will see how easily you can be manipulated by them and don't think for a minute that they won't use it against you.

Lacking control over your own emotional state is a weakness that will be used against you time and time again. I can guarantee it. Ask any older, wiser person in your life and they will tell you that not controlling their emotions was a point of regret in their youth. I hear this all the time.:o

I am as big a screw up as anybody else.:p

So I'll admit to a shitty thing I do from time to time but I'm only able to do it after someone has given me all the tools I need ... and they usually hand it right to me in an over emotional outburst. LOL

For instance, if someone is jealous of something, they'll let me know exactly what they are jealous of and just how much it hurts them to face it as soon as they get angry about something...lmao. Then and only then can I use it against them and rub that which they are envious of in their faces over and over til it drives them nuts.

I couldn't do that if the person didn't wear their weakness right on their sleeve...;)

Are racialists guilty of this?

[COLOR=Navy] "The passion for setting people right is, itself, a dis-ease with the self." - /COLOR]



The jews call this kind of "passion for setting people right" - tikkun olan. Tikkun olan means "fixing or healing the world" or some such crap. This tikkun olan is central to the jewish faith and is the driving motivation behind the jews great efforts in trying to "fix" what they perceive as the "unfair" relationship between Whites and all the "oppressed" others. What the jews see as unfair in their eyes, and therefore in need of complete overhaul, or tikkuning, we Whites (and the rest of the world) see as natural, and therefore proper. Can there be any doubt that the civilized world sees blacks in general and Africa in particular as non-progressing, unthinking, violent apes? Anyone with eyes can see that all of Africa is disease-ridden, mired in poverty and rampant corruption, without law and order and given to unending tribal warfare. This is the normal, natural mentality of the black race, this is not rocket science, not only the White race, but the whole world sees this.

And so, the jews, with their meddling and their tikkuning, feel passionately and religiously compelled to "fix" this situation, i.e., "setting people right". It is the jews who have initiated this action. They taken it upon themselves to literally reverse the natural order of the world, here in White-founded USA. THIS is what we fight against. Our movement is a natural reaction against the never-ending meddling of the jews and their tikkun olan of the world. It is the jewish faith itself that tells jews that not only are they "God's Chosen", but also that they alone know how to "fix the world".

What arrogance, eh? What chutzpah. The jews. Here to fix the world as only they see fit. To that, we say BS. The jews' passion for "setting people right" is unnatural meddling in the natural order of the world. This is what we fight against. This is what causes the natural anger and frustration among our White brethren. This is also what makes the jews so hated all over the world.

So, the answer to your question is NO, racialists are not guilty of trying to "set people right", that is what jews do. Racialists are merely reacting to it and rejecting the tikkuning of the hated kikes. This jewish tikkun olan can be described as a disease, a disease that the jews keep trying to spread to the naturally healthy White world. They've been at it for a long, long time. Adolf Hitler attempted to put an end to this jewish disease, but was overcome by the ignorance of the West. With the advent of the internet, the whole world is wising up to the jewish disease.

OK, OK I give. :p

The book is entitled "Acts of Faith - Daily Meditations for People of Color"

Written by an African women named Iyanla Vanzant


All the quotes I used in this thread were written by this woman whom I'm told is also a BN.




No jews in sight... ;)

OK, OK I give. :p

The book is entitled "Acts of Faith - Daily Meditations for People of Color"

Written by an African women named Iyanla Vanzant

All the quotes I used in this thread were written by this woman whom I'm told is also a BN.

No jews in sight... ;)

Well, black apes are dumb enough to parrot what jews tell to them. Doesn't this nigger know that "black nationalism" was created by jews :D

Instrospective evalution aka "wondering if you're doing the right thing" shouldn't have to be a scientifically validated process.

Introspection is one matter, but any conjecture regarding matters of fact, such as the causes of behaviour, stands or falls by science. What you have presented is such a conjecture, which the statements "Self righteousness is an affliction", "It is an inner desire to be accepted and valued", "It is a camouflage for feelings of worthlessness" etc. prove it to be.

"Many of us have a need to be right.

Our Faustian will, as it is reflected in our history, is to know the truth, not to have it. This will, the selfless dedication to truth, is what separates the philosopher from the apologist, and is one reason for our intellectual achievements dwarfing those of every other civilisation. You are an apologist.

Usually this stems from the inner cry, 'There is something wrong with me.'

What is your inner cry? Is there something wrong with you?

We then set out to make ourselves right by making someone else wrong.We may plan what to say. We may canvass others to elicit their support.

I've always said that psychoanalytic theory reveals more about the mind and behaviour of the theorist than of any other persons. I wonder if you planned what you have written here in the hope of eliciting our support.

In some cases. we simply attack, letting others know how wrong they are and why we think so.

Thank you for letting us know how wrong we are.

Self righteousness is an affliction.

In that case, you are obviously a very afflicted person.

It is an inner desire to be accepted and valued. It is a camouflage for feelings of worthlessness.

Prove it. If you cannot, then you have no authority whatsoever to contradict me when I say this is not what motivates us.

No matter how wrong another may be, it will never make you right. Self-value, self-worth and self-esteem cannot come as a result of being the only right one.

Well, isn't that a profound statement! And such profound egocentrism too!

It must come from knowing who you are from within and feeling good about it. ... We must get right with ourselves.

I know who I am, and that is something far greater and more lasting than an indivdual.


Once we do, we will have so much to do, we will not have time to keep track of who is wrong."


Is that actually meant to be a factual statement? If you have discovered your true self-worth, why are you writing convoluted essays about who is wrong?

Well, one of the best ways to test a conjecture is to apply it to itself, and see if it can stand. If we do that, I am afraid that we encounter in the author an indvidual of very low self-worth and high self-righteousness, pandering her ideas of changing others in an attempt to make us wrong and herself right. Furthermore, I can apply this to you, Cryptoracist, and in fact to any individual who preaches that racism is wrong. Irony's a bitch. But, then so are you.

"Cryptoracist's" little tirade really amounts to nothing more than a lengthy and superficially involved ad hominem. Unlike your psychoanalyst friend I don't need to dream up reasons for your doing so; you cannot refute any of our arguments, so you have resorted to discrediting the individuals who present the arguments. That is quite pathetic.


You've touched upon the reason that the WN movement will never achieve anything.

I'm not a White Nationalist. I'm far more dangerous to the status quo than that. What am I? Oh, that would be spoiling.

Regardless of any intellectual validity it may hold, it's supporters are delusional. They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness, and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can, rather than bitching about all life's "imperfections".

I believe you are confusing them coloured impostors upon white soil.

Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies. We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment.

Well, well, the Christian has spoken. You're not a Christian? Oh, no, no, trust me, you are. As for your delusional slave morality, you know where you can put it. Isn't it wonderful how language transcends divisions of faith?

You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow.

I don't need an excuse for anger. It is a trait my species is born with, developed over billions of years of victorious struggle. I have faith that nature has endowed me to continue that struggle.

Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.

Oh, I appreciate life, Gaia, the cosmos and all that. Holding the Weltanschaaung which I do no more disqualifies me from that than does wanting to see every paedophile hanging from a gibbet.

Dont' mind me, I go through this every time I quit smoking. But this time, this time is different. I'm more at peace than usual and I've found myself looking inside and accepting responsibility for things I didn't even think were wrong before.Please immediately go back on the cancer sticks; they're deserving of your weak-willed inability to kick them, and they look real good sticking out of the mouths of nigriss hoes such as yo'sef.

Kike fairies look good in them too!
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Well, looky what the cat dragged in and spit up all over the carpet! :p

It's a chain-letter... lets not spread it around... it'll only annoy people.;)

Introspection is a trait I have an abundunce of. Just as I have an abundance of impatience for ignorant touchy-feely nonsense masquerading as deep introspection.

Case in point:

Originally Posted by Virtuous Heretic
You've touched upon the reason that the WN movement will never achieve anything. Regardless of any intellectual validity it may hold, it's supporters are delusional. They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness, and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can, rather than bitching about all life's "imperfections". Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies. We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment. You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow. Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.

They spend all their time blaming others for their unhappiness

Who say's I'm unhappy, or that I would blame anyone else if I were?

and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can,

What makes you think that I, or anyone else here isn't improving themselves or enjoying their lives as best they can?

Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies.

Why? What's in it for me?

We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source,

My mother? I'm afraid she wasn't that prolific. Surely you are mistaken.

we are here only to challenge each other

What an odd notion. Who told you that?

You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger

I'd say that depends on how "opposed" our causes are. Sometimes you can talk to people, sometimes you just have to shoot them. In any case, anger is purely optional.

Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.

Well, some things I appreciate about this world (like white society) and I would definately like to try and create a better world (more white people and white societies). Is that ok? Or is my vision of paradise ouside the bounds of what's allowed?

If so, then I'm afraid someone is going to be disappointed.

-Brian

Well, looky what the cat dragged in and spit up all over the carpet! :p

It's a chain-letter... lets not spread it around... it'll only annoy people.;)

The word is "spat", not "spit". Kindly stop abusing my language.

Now, can you actually respond to the criticisms that have been directed at your posts?

Well, well, the Christian has spoken. You're not a Christian? Oh, no, no, trust me, you are. As for your delusional slave morality, you know where you can put it. Isn't it wonderful how language transcends divisions of faith?

I don't need an excuse for anger. It is a trait my species is born with, developed over billions of years of victorious struggle. I have faith that nature has endowed me to continue that struggle.

Oh, I appreciate life, Gaia, the cosmos and all that. Holding the Weltanschaaung which I do no more disqualifies me from that than does wanting to see every paedophile hanging from a gibbet.

Was I trying to hide Christian tendencies with my "love your enemies" statement? I've not read much of the Bible though and besides the Christmas Eve service I attended I hadn't been at a service for five years. Any religions or spiritual paths with any truth will have commonalities.

Regarding the traits of your species, are you a mere animal sir? OR do you possess an essence that is something more, and allows you to transcend pure animal reactive traits? Can you transmute lead into gold? OR have you calcified into a simple machine? Could it be your material realist reality is the true slave morality?

The struggle is the illusion, play the game and enjoy it for what it's worth, but if you are getting angry I believe you are taking it too seriously and missing the point.

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Even if a white nation would be preferable, love your enemies.

Why? What's in it for me?

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we are here only to challenge each other

What an odd notion. Who told you that?

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Appreciate the world for what it is now, even as you move forward trying to create a paradise on Earth.

Well, some things I appreciate about this world (like white society) and I would definately like to try and create a better world (more white people and white societies). Is that ok? Or is my vision of paradise ouside the bounds of what's allowed?

If so, then I'm afraid someone is going to be disappointed.

-Brian

Loving your enemies will bring more benefit to yourself than to them. The other emotional states, such as pain, anger, fear, grief, apathy, etc. are inherently unhappy. They are also inherently disabling. Let me put it in terms you can understand: Love is the European of emotions :)

As for my "odd notion", well nobody told me it. Some people read philosophers, and some people are philosophers :cool: IT's the product of life experience processed with integrative thought coupled with divine intervention. Satori! The shattering of the crown shakra blockages with cosmic kundalini energy ;)

Regarding your "vision of paradise", given that I visit this website I would say I consider it within the bounds of allowed.

Hate is, of course, an emotion. Emotions arise as a result of external conditions.Generally they tend to be consciosly actors manipulating their emotions thus one does not necessarily allow his emotions to govern his behavior , which at some point one might perhaps hate another to the point of retaliation .


Only machines give the same response every time to specific certain stimuli. Therefore it is not the externals causing your hate, they are at most the catalyst revealing the programmed responses that you can alter or control. We are quantum beings.

Was I trying to hide Christian tendencies with my "love your enemies" statement? I've not read much of the Bible though and besides the Christmas Eve service I attended I hadn't been at a service for five years.

Well, perhaps I was being dishonest. We can actually trace your pathetic sentiment back to that little Persian upstart, Zarathustra. Of course in those days it wasn't quite so nauseating.

Any religions or spiritual paths with any truth will have commonalities.

They have their commonalities because the wares they peddle all lead back to the same group of swindlers.

Regarding the traits of your species, are you a mere animal sir?

Anthropocentrism is a disease. As is egocentrism.

OR do you possess an essence that is something more,

I am a part of that species which exists in the form of a higher organism known as a "civilisation". That sets me as much apart from animals as they are set apart from amoeba.

and allows you to transcend pure animal reactive traits?

I couldn't answer that truthfully. I don't lay claim to know how other biological organisms think and perceive themselves. I do have a will, if that's what you mean, but my choices are no more "free" than "determined"; they are more of an holistic process.


Can you transmute lead into gold? OR have you calcified into a simple machine?

I'm not sure how to answer that, because I don't find the dichotomy logical. Has everything which cannot do so "calcified into a simple machine"? Is this the meaning you intended to convey, or do you simply have troubles expressing yourself in writing? I for one surely cannot transmute lead into gold, but perhaps the adherents of your strange cult of philophasters can transcend the limits of this "illusory" cosmos to do so.

Could it be your material realist reality is the true slave morality?

"Material realist"? Actually, I'm more of an idealist in the mould of Berkeley and Schopenhauer, or perhaps even of Goethe. "All is mind" and all that jazz. Strangely enough, this leads me more toward reason and experience than materialism and dualism would allow. No, no, I can assure you that your sort of wispy and confused twaddle forms the shackles which bind us.

The struggle is the illusion, play the game and enjoy it for what it's worth, but if you are getting angry I believe you are taking it too seriously and missing the point.

The "spiritual truth" you preach is the illusion. Now get thee farther from me; I don't have any more time to waste on nihilists, sophists and New Age quacks.

Well, perhaps I was being dishonest. We can actually trace your pathetic sentiment back to that little Persian upstart, Zarathustra. Of course in those days it wasn't quite so nauseating.



They have their commonalities because the wares they peddle all lead back to the same group of swindlers.



Anthropocentrism is a disease. As is egocentrism.



I am a part of that species which exists in the form of a higher organism known as a "civilisation". That sets me as much apart from animals as they are set apart from amoeba.



I couldn't answer that truthfully. I don't lay claim to know how other biological organisms think and perceive themselves. I do have a will, if that's what you mean, but my choices are no more "free" than "determined"; they are more of an holistic process.



I'm not sure how to answer that, because I don't find the dichotomy logical. Has everything which cannot do so "calcified into a simple machine"? Is this the meaning you intended to convey, or do you simply have troubles expressing yourself in writing? I for one surely cannot transmute lead into gold, but perhaps the adherents of your strange cult of philophasters can transcend the limits of this "illusory" cosmos to do so.



"Material realist"? Actually, I'm more of an idealist in the mould of Berkeley and Schopenhauer, or perhaps even of Goethe. "All is mind" and all that jazz. Strangely enough, this leads me more toward reason and experience than materialism and dualism would allow. No, no, I can assure you that your sort of wispy and confused twaddle forms the shackles which bind us.



The "spiritual truth" you preach is the illusion. Now get thee farther from me; I don't have any more time to waste on nihilists, sophists and New Age quacks.

No time for me and yet you bothered to edit your post to include the phrase, "New Age quacks"? And you cannot trace my sentiments back through time to some originator. I was raised a Christian and yet never believed any of them until quite a while after Christianity. They exist, independent of time, for they ARE the eternal. In terms of transmuting lead into gold, you missed the point and should think in more spiritual terms, as the physical is generated from the spiritual and not vice versa.

Good luck sir

The word is "spat", not "spit". Kindly stop abusing my language.

Now, can you actually respond to the criticisms that have been directed at your posts?I don't respond to immature little boys who ruin intelligent diagloue by calling someone a "bitch" without provocation. Grow up, then I may consider speaking to you. :o

Normally, I would completely disregard your existence altogether and never even give you the benefit of this much response but my gut tells me that you are young and possibly just don't know any better.

So I will be gracious this time and tell you directly. When attempting to initiate intelligent dialogue with an adult.. try civility or your whole statement may be disregarded as the over emotional rants of a child.


To anyone else whom I haven't responded to yet today, assuming your reply was civil of course and not laced with irrelevant flaming, I'm kinda busy this morning but I will be back to read and respond to you... I am not ignoring you on purpose if your reply was civil... I am just a little busy right now. :D

The rest should apply what I said to this disrespectful little boy to themselves when attempting to converse with a grown up. I will not bicker with children... not even a little bit. :o

I don't respond to immature little boys who ruin intelligent diagloue by calling someone a "bitch" without provocation. Grow up, then I may consider speaking to you. :o

Normally, I would completely disregard your existence altogether and never even give you the benefit of this much response but my gut tells me that you are young and possibly just don't know any better.

So I will be gracious this time and tell you directly. When attempting to initiate intelligent dialogue with an adult.. try civility or your whole statement may be disregarded as the over emotional rants of a child.


To anyone else whom I haven't responded to yet today, assuming your reply was civil of course and not laced with irrelevant flaming, I'm kinda busy this morning but I will be back to read and respond to you... I am not ignoring you on purpose if your reply was civil... I am just a little busy right now. :D

The rest should apply what I said to this disrespectful little boy to themselves when attempting to converse with a grown up. I will not bicker with children... not even a little bit. :o

This dumb feminist nigger makes me laugh. I wonder, how many little black monkeys, that take White man's resoruces, you've alredy eschewed, ape? :D

My pet Gypsy fdtwainth / George Lenz hates women because he's a homo - not surprising, considering his mongrel ancestry (he was conceived as the result of a drunked anal orgy involving Gypsies and Chukchis). He likes nothing better than a Chechen fist up his anus. Read this thread (http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=42802) to learn the truth about his lunatic scams as well as sexual perversions.

My pet Gypsy fdtwainth / George Lenz hates women because he's a homo - not surprising, considering his mongrel ancestry (he was conceived as the result of a drunked anal orgy involving Gypsies and Chukchis). He likes nothing better than a Chechen fist up his anus. Read this thread (http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=42802) to learn the truth about his lunatic scams as well as sexual perversions.

It looks like noisy jew alphanumericus and dumb nigger cryptoracist love each other with a passion (for sexual perversions I guess, since both are parasites and laudly talk about it at VNN). Perhaps they would even mix up, which is good :D :D :D

I don't respond to immature little boys who ruin intelligent diagloue by calling someone a "bitch" without provocation. Grow up, then I may consider speaking to you. :o

Normally, I would completely disregard your existence altogether and never even give you the benefit of this much response but my gut tells me that you are young and possibly just don't know any better.

So I will be gracious this time and tell you directly. When attempting to initiate intelligent dialogue with an adult.. try civility or your whole statement may be disregarded as the over emotional rants of a child.


To anyone else whom I haven't responded to yet today, assuming your reply was civil of course and not laced with irrelevant flaming, I'm kinda busy this morning but I will be back to read and respond to you... I am not ignoring you on purpose if your reply was civil... I am just a little busy right now. :D

The rest should apply what I said to this disrespectful little boy to themselves when attempting to converse with a grown up. I will not bicker with children... not even a little bit. :o

Yes, it is as I thought. I completely buried you and your negroid philophaster, and you simply lack the intellect to mount any sort of defense in an effort to dig your way out. I don't address apes with civility, particularly those of the negroid variety.

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We ultimately all emanate from the same infinitely creative source, we are here only to challenge each other, there is no need for seething resentment. You may have causes that are opposed but that is still no excuse for anger, an emotion which merely renders you ineffective in pursuing your causes anyhow. So do alligators, cobras and the gases on Jupiter.

Anger seems to work pretty well for Hezbollah.

So do alligators, cobras and the gases on Jupiter.

Anger seems to work pretty well for Hezbollah.

I don't know anyone in Hezbollah personally so I can't gauge how well anger has worked for them, in terms of creating happiness. However even in terms of worldly success their accomplishments aren't much. Also, why do you assume Hezbollah's truly productive work is conceived in a state of anger? Anger is like trying to force a square peg in a round hole, it's an emotion generated by resistance to the factors in your life you truly cannot control. If you want to ever control any substantial things in your life, focus on what you can actually change for the better now, and as you move along other opportunities may open up to you through that.

A big recommended first step to anyone in our modern industrialized world would be to get healthy, your body is the medium through which you interact in this world. Why do so many Americans give even their cars more loving maintenance? Drop the junk and processed foods and move to fresh, organic foods. Get off of the couch and out in the sun and fresh air. Or get fresh oxygen rich air 24/7, just open the windows of your tomb and turn off the air conditioning/heating. The body is remarkably adaptable to temp. changes and much money would be preserved. These are just some very basic suggestions. Once good health is achieved, productive worldly work will be much easier.

Virtuous Heretic said:
So do alligators, cobras and the gases on Jupiter.

Anger seems to work pretty well for Hezbollah.Hezbollah have their children murdered daily at a furious rate. Yes, the jews are wrong for doing it... but clearly angery murderous outbursts are not without severe consequence.:o

...and little time on self improvement while enjoying their lives as best they can...

What makes you think that I, or anyone else here isn't improving themselves or enjoying their lives as best they can?
I believe that he/she was referencing earlier in this thread where someone was saying that they actually spent time taking their child on an excursion visiting Black hair care shops with the purpose of explaining away the attractiveness of people of color. I responded that's a waste of precious family time and that this time would be better spent trying to improve themselves and their own child's life.

And I still believe that to be that case, too.

To waste time debasing others when you could be enjoying life with your kid and/or focusing on self-improvement isn't healthy IMHO, not to mention how it reeks of emotional instability. I agree with VH on many of his/her points.
edit: it happened right here (http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=479921&postcount=4)

I believe that he/she was referencing earlier in this thread where someone was saying that they actually spent time taking their child on an excursion visiting Black hair care shops with the purpose of explaining away the attractiveness of people of color. I responded that's a waste of precious family time and that this time would be better spent trying to improve themselves and their own child's life.

And I still believe that to be that case, too.

To waste time debasing others when you could be enjoying life with your kid and/or focusing on self-improvement isn't healthy IMHO, not to mention how it reeks of emotional instability. I agree with VH on many of his/her points.
edit: it happened right here (http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=479921&postcount=4)

I try to live with a proper balance of masculine and feminine energies so I guess he/she is fair enough :) I am, in fact, a white male though.

Kievsky's post was not why I entered the discussion. I entered the discussion because this same destructive spirit pervades so much of everything written in this site (and also much of the world as well). Cui bono?

Regarding Kievsky's informing his daughter of the efforts of minority children to emulate a "white" look, I don't actually take offense to that. I think he is only looking out for his daughter. The basis of what is considered attractive is part nature, part nurture. Given that we live in a white nation, and even a world where white people are the majority of the upper class, the cultural pinnacle for attractive is a white look. He is showing his daughter some of the disadvantages she'd be handing her children if she were to miscegenate.

I try to live with a proper balance of masculine and feminine energies so I guess he/she is fair enough :) I am, in fact, a white male though.

Kievsky's post was not why I entered the discussion. I entered the discussion because this same destructive spirit pervades so much of everything written in this site (and also much of the world as well). Cui bono?

Regarding Kievsky's informing his daughter of the efforts of minority children to emulate a "white" look, I don't actually take offense to that. I think he is only looking out for his daughter. The basis of what is considered attractive is part nature, part nurture. Given that we live in a white nation, and even a world where white people are the majority of the upper class, the cultural pinnacle for attractive is a white look. He is showing his daughter some of the disadvantages she'd be handing her children if she were to miscegenate.Well thank you for clarifying I will refer to you as a "he" exclusively from now on. :D

Also, I see your point now on Kievsky's post now, although I respectfully differ, but I'm glad you clarified... and I still agree with most other things you said.

Thank you for contributing... that was still a great post back there.

Hezbollah have their children murdered daily at a furious rate. Yes, the jews are wrong for doing it... but clearly angery murderous outbursts are not without severe consequence.:o

If this is true then whites are justified in mass murdering blacks in order to avenge the death's of thousands of whites that your black bratha's and sista's have slaughterd over the years.

Where should I start, I know, how about a nice public school in Atlanta full of little nigglets. Free at last, free at last, Thank Smith & Wesson we are free at last.
Fair is fair right?