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konkwista88
December 11th, 2003, 01:37 AM
I have noticed a few things about the white power movement in the US after being an internet hater for over a year and a professional hater for the last few months.

First, why would anyone insult Alex Linder for living with his grandmother and supposedly for not being employed? I have been visiting VNN for over the last two years and not ONCE did he make an appeal to the viewers, for a donation. His website provides us with movie reviews, good essays, comedy and now a forum. So why the fuck would anyone care about his personal life? If it is because some people are upset about his harsh criticism of the National Alliance, then one should consider how he manages to get more viewers and being able to produce a regularly updated news site, which the NA until recently has been unable to do.

The statement "whites damage nonwhites more through white condensation than through white race" is very true. I used to stare down nonwhites and get into many confrontations. A few weeks ago I tried a very different strategy, which is just totally ignore them! Whenever a black person tries to ask me something randomly at school or on the street I just ignore them and keep on walking. Whenever I see a white and a nonwhite cashier at a store, I always go to the white one, regardless of how much longer the line is. I even more or less only speak to whites at my work and try to ignore the nonwhites, even my nonwhite supervisor. And this strategy works well! Totally ignoring and acting in a condensating manner is much more psychologically damaging to one's self-esteem and state of mind, than blatant hostility. At my old job, my friend and I had to deal with many nonwhites. My friend was very open about his views while I was more reserved. He got into many pointless confrontations with nonwhites about his views. I more or less just totally ignored nonwhites and that way made my views crystal clear. What eventually happened was whenever a nonwhite had to ask me something, they would have to ask a white person to ask me!!! Obviously this does not work in every situation but its a great strategy.

A third thing I noticed is the best way how to recruit and create a scene/movement is using the same strategy as hamas. What they do is go to the local mosques and pass out flyers to worthy people for special religious meetings. There they speak with potential candidates and select the best and most dedicated. Yes this can be done for NONVIOLENT purposes in the US. Here is how one would do it. Find three to ten like minded individuals. Start going to NRA meetings or some other activities where mostly white conservatives congregate. Maybe gun shows. Get to know many people on a deeper level. You do not have to be very open about your white nationalist views, just hint at them. Find some people that strongly agree with you on a critical issue such as immigration, gun control, america's foreign policy and go from there. When your group is small, be as secretive as possible. Try to make it into a social thing for and slowly bring in potential future haters. As the group gets bigger, say 100 or so people then will be the time to become active and well know.

konkwista88
December 11th, 2003, 01:49 AM
A fourth thing is just to practice condensation and not waste your time attacking other pro-white websites and groups. Every minute you spend ranting about Billy White and how corrupt Hale Turner and the NA is, thats every minute you waste trying to reach out to new people into the movement. If there are no good groups around where you live then just create your own scene, from my advice in thought three. Why waste time on the likes of Bill White and the NA? If you just ignore them they will either go away or in the case of the NA, be forced to either accept radical changes or just wither away into oblivion of insignificance.

western-nationalist
December 11th, 2003, 02:16 AM
Blah blah blah why don't you spew out something original? We heard of all this shit before, go back to your cave at Stormfront and bitch and moan to them.

Steve B
December 11th, 2003, 02:25 AM
I have noticed a few things about the white power movement in the US after being an internet hater for over a year and a professional hater for the last few months.

First, why would anyone insult Alex Linder for living with his grandmother and supposedly for not being employed? I have been visiting VNN for over the last two years and not ONCE did he make an appeal to the viewers, for a donation. His website provides us with movie reviews, good essays, comedy and now a forum. So why the fuck would anyone care about his personal life? If it is because some people are upset about his harsh criticism of the National Alliance, then one should consider how he manages to get more viewers and being able to produce a regularly updated news site, which the NA until recently has been unable to do.

The statement "whites damage nonwhites more through white condensation than through white race" is very true. I used to stare down nonwhites and get into many confrontations. A few weeks ago I tried a very different strategy, which is just totally ignore them! Whenever a black person tries to ask me something randomly at school or on the street I just ignore them and keep on walking. Whenever I see a white and a nonwhite cashier at a store, I always go to the white one, regardless of how much longer the line is. I even more or less only speak to whites at my work and try to ignore the nonwhites, even my nonwhite supervisor. And this strategy works well! Totally ignoring and acting in a condensating manner is much more psychologically damaging to one's self-esteem and state of mind, than blatant hostility. At my old job, my friend and I had to deal with many nonwhites. My friend was very open about his views while I was more reserved. He got into many pointless confrontations with nonwhites about his views. I more or less just totally ignored nonwhites and that way made my views crystal clear. What eventually happened was whenever a nonwhite had to ask me something, they would have to ask a white person to ask me!!! Obviously this does not work in every situation but its a great strategy.

A third thing I noticed is the best way how to recruit and create a scene/movement is using the same strategy as hamas. What they do is go to the local mosques and pass out flyers to worthy people for special religious meetings. There they speak with potential candidates and select the best and most dedicated. Yes this can be done for NONVIOLENT purposes in the US. Here is how one would do it. Find three to ten like minded individuals. Start going to NRA meetings or some other activities where mostly white conservatives congregate. Maybe gun shows. Get to know many people on a deeper level. You do not have to be very open about your white nationalist views, just hint at them. Find some people that strongly agree with you on a critical issue such as immigration, gun control, america's foreign policy and go from there. When your group is small, be as secretive as possible. Try to make it into a social thing for and slowly bring in potential future haters. As the group gets bigger, say 100 or so people then will be the time to become active and well know.

Good post, thats why I like linder also. He don't get down on his knees and beg for money like all of the rest of the so-called White Nationalists. The late great Robert Frenz was the same way! Stand tall, never apologise, never explain. Actions speak louder than words!

The only time Linder did ask for money it was for someone else(Chester Doles). Now thats a fuckin White Man in my book!!!

The fact that Linder lives with his grandmother is a badge of honor in my book. Linder could have skimmed a few shekels from the 80 grand that Wn's raised for Doles...got himself a slut ho, moved out of grannys basement, got himself a decent ride, new set of duds... did he do it? Nope!!!

Linders still there, takin it on the chin with all the bullshit lawsuits, back stabbing Wn's, setting up a new website, new forum and always writing...constantly writing!

Tell ya the truth, I'd march to hell and back for Linder if he would ask...but he won't...cuz he's a White Man and I for one and damn proud of him!

Derrick Beukeboom
December 11th, 2003, 02:27 AM
Well, your heart is the right place my friend and you do say some things which I will concur with.

First off, I have been a racialist since the early 90's, when there was no mass internet usage. Racialism was one of the things that helped light the firestorm that became the internet craze a la 1994-95.
I remember when usenet was the main 'cyber' activity. Then, individual people and groups actually went through the effort and put forth the money to set up webpages that they personally controlled.

The Klan and some skinhead groups were the first racialist webpages up and running.
The 'movement' hasn't been the same since.

In all my time frequenting various racial webpages, I have never seen
1.) as great a site as the VNN - it is so far ahead of any other site in cutting edge racialist thought, philosophy and innovation. Some articles are better than others, some comments as well. Mr. Linder is a tremendous writer and I have NEVER read as thought provoking and intelligent writing as what I have read since discovering the VNN a couple of years ago.

2.) as much WN gossip and in fighting as what has/is going on now. It was all never a tea party where everyone got along like bossom buddies, but there was a common undercurrent of respect and teamwork. There were rivalries and jealousy, etc. but you knew not to cross a certain line because you realized that you would be making enemies from a pool of people that think pretty much along the same lines.

Lots of things have changed in the last few years. Dr. Pierce passing away has effectively left the NA in shambles. I suppose he was the strong leader that kept all the competing personalities and rivalries in check, like Tito did in Yugoslavia for nearly 40 years.
In addtion, the proliferation of online web chat forums has change the whole 'movement'. It is a double edge sword. It's a nice way to meet others of the same mindset and debate and brainstorm with, but it provides the idea of being 'active' or what have you. People literally get addicted to the online discussions and they live their 'racist' lives while on the forums. Also, like any forum, their are always trolls, trouble makers and lots of gossip. These are negatives of the whole internet revolution.
It's imperative that solid, intelligent brainstorming take precedence over gossip and other bullshit that in the end does not matter anyway on the online forums.

I used to frequent SF. It's now a total shit forum for feminists, newbies, venters and losers with nothing else to do and of course NA supporters.
I am NOT criticizing this, just calling it like it is.

I used to have lots of respect for the NA. Let's be honest, it is NOT the same organization that it was before Dr. Pierce died. I would not trust them as far as I can throw them now. Just admitting reality.

As for some of the other 'hot' gossip like Bill White and what Gliebe is or isn't doing, it's all just bullshit. I wouldn't waste my time on thinking about such nonsense.

Just thought I share with you konwista88 some of my own thoughts on these current matters. I think things will simmer down and everyone and the 'movement' will outgrow this stage (I'll call it the teeen years, pretty appropo.)
There is just one thing I disagree with you on. We can not ignore a problem and hope it just goes away.
Yes, in school and work it is not the wisest choice to be outspoken, you've got to pick your battles.

But as Linder states, we will have to deal with our subjugation in our own lands eventually. There is only one way - through the jews!!!

Nigger, spic, muslim and chink the symptoms.
Jews the disease.

How do we claim autonomy for our people and countires?
Through the Jews!

You will be right, only when you go White!

Hail VNN.
Hail Linder - our current best mind bar none.

Derrick Beukeboom
December 11th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Linder is Lord!!!

WWLD?

konkwista88
December 11th, 2003, 03:56 AM
Blah blah blah why don't you spew out something original? We heard of all this shit before, go back to your cave at Stormfront and bitch and moan to them.

I have never registered for stormfront. That site just never really appealed to me.

western-nationalist
December 11th, 2003, 04:03 AM
I have never registered for stormfront. That site just never really appealed to me.[/QUOTE]

Sorry for coming off as a asshole, I am just a little bitchy tonight, those Stormfuckers are pissing me off.

konkwista88
December 11th, 2003, 04:04 AM
There is just one thing I disagree with you on. We can not ignore a problem and hope it just goes away.
Yes, in school and work it is not the wisest choice to be outspoken, you've got to pick your battles.


I do not think its ignoring the problem. It is more like not acknowledging the existence of nonwhites and that they are even human, like they have no right to be here in the first place. The way I do it is I simply ignore most nonwhites at my work and talk to coworkers about politics outside of work. Getting into an argument with a nonwhite is pointless....everyone there knows how I feel probably by now.....I have a list of worthy people to debate against and I also confront bullshit liberal orgs at my school for laughs.

Bardamu
December 11th, 2003, 09:55 PM
Good post. Only it's condescension.

Steve B
December 11th, 2003, 10:02 PM
Well, I'm back to trying condensation again. Precipitation made me much more wet, so I quit it. Trouble is, when I'm all wet, everybody just stares me down and gets me into confrontations by calling me a "big drip". It's tough being a WN!


LOL...yer funny Colonel Klink!

Steve B
(the real dozer)

konkwista88
December 11th, 2003, 11:48 PM
Sorry, I was tired.