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TomSawyer
January 20th, 2007, 01:04 AM
I am a WN sympathizer but I would not consider myself a WN per se, mainly because the trappings of nationalist movements bore the shit out of me (i.e. parades, anthems, uniforms) even though I support their practical goals.

I'm a Libertarian because I want to live in a world where you can (for example) put "No Niggers, Jews or Faggots" in a Help Wanted ad, and where you can start a White-oriented TV network without the FCC sticking its fingers into your pie.

Allow private citizens to do things like that, and the free market will take care of the rest: the jews and blacks will eventually find themselves shut out of the communities in which they live, and they will take their funky business elsewhere.

It is much simpler, more practical and more efficient than endlessly debating who's a jew and who isn't and trying to pass laws about it.

The ultimate test of WNism will be whether it can survive in a truly free market. I believe it can.

Cthulhu
January 24th, 2007, 11:12 PM
Ęsop. (Sixth century B.C.) Fables.
The Harvard Classics. 1909–14.

Belling the Cat


LONG ago, the mice had a general council to consider what measures they could take to outwit their common enemy, the Cat. Some said this, and some said that; but at last a young mouse got up and said he had a proposal to make, which he thought would meet the case. “You will all agree,” said he, “that our chief danger consists in the sly and treacherous manner in which the enemy approaches us. Now, if we could receive some signal of her approach, we could easily escape from her. I venture, therefore, to propose that a small bell be procured, and attached by a ribbon round the neck of the Cat. By this means we should always know when she was about, and could easily retire while she was in the neighbourhood.”

This proposal met with general applause, until an old mouse got up and said: “That is all very well, but who is to bell the Cat?” The mice looked at one another and nobody spoke.

Then the old mouse said: “IT IS EASY TO PROPOSE IMPOSSIBLE REMEDIES.”

TomSawyer
January 25th, 2007, 01:00 AM
Then the old mouse said: “IT IS EASY TO PROPOSE IMPOSSIBLE REMEDIES.”

Precisely. Racially aware Whites should take the practical approach and try to force through a few Libertarian-style changes rather than a much larger number of much more complicated and expensive Nationalist-style ones. (That is the point you were trying to make, right?)

Always remember that the Jews took over America without passing any laws containing the words "Jew" or "White". Whites will have a pretty easy go of it if they do the same and just play all the economic angles.

Cthulhu
January 25th, 2007, 01:31 AM
Quite wrong. The jewish changes were no where near individualistic, "affirmative action", "civil rights", "hate crimes" ect...

So in order to effect the changes you propose you have to topple the power structure that now exists and exists upon the very principles you seek to overthrow. Who is going to vote for such changes? And if even voted for, who is going to implement them against their own interests?

But if you have the power to implement the changes why bother with a maybe but use the power you possess to rid your community of kikes and niggers fullstop?

Those with their hands on the levers of power will not allow any changes that will reduce their power. Why would they unless ideologically blinded in some way? That requires some sort of abstract intelligence to create the purblindness.

When the jews took power Whites predominated. All the laws then invoked where invoked at the expense of the predominate race: the Aryan. Once the Aryan no longer predominates, the non-Aryan will, through the ballot box be able to maintain any advantages they have gotten through Aryan blindness.

I care not one wit for ideology except whether or not it will help my race survive and prosper. If that is liberalism or totalitarinism, it doesn't matter. The survival and well being of mine is all.

TomSawyer
January 25th, 2007, 01:35 AM
Fair enough.

But over here at Libertarian Headquarters, (http://www.freestateproject.org/) I see nothing but happy productive White people.

Blacks and spics don't become libertarians, because even the law-abiding middle-class ones have friends who are being kept alive by a social program of one sort or another. Jews don't become libertarians, because the republicrats suit all their purposes well enough.

Cthulhu
January 25th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Fair enough.

http://www.barefootsworld.net/war_ep1.html

Keeping on dreaming about belling that cat if it makes you happy.

Eric Dondero | December 1, 2006, 9:01am | #
The "8% support Libertarian Party views" figure is absolutely astounding and quite encouraging. All libertarians should be celebrating this finding. However, our own libertarian outreach efforts to Hispanics is dismal. Look at any Libertarian Party meeting. How many Hispanics are there?

The Republican Liberty Caucus has done a slightly better job; particularly in Florida with Hispanic outreach. RLC Vice Chair Phil Blumel has been giving talks to Latino groups all throughout South Florida recently on libertarian values and our tolerant immigration stance. But this isn't enough. What Blumel has been doing needs to be taken nationwide by all the RLC and even LP chapters. (Full story on Phil's activities at www.mainstreamlibertarian.com)

Y tambien todos de nosotros necisitamos aprender espanol! Estara mejor para nuestro movimiento. Si podemos hacer eso, los hispanos tendran mejor respecto para nosotros. Confie en mi, por favor.

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/116978.html

Cthulhu
January 25th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Untapped: Hispanic voters offer opportunity

Libertarian Party member Chris Lancette is in a position to reach a large and important segment of the American population that the LP has had a difficult time reaching in the past. And he is already busy getting out the LP message.

Lancette recently was named managing editor of Mundo Hispanico, a bilingual, full-coverage Hispanic newspaper serving metro Atlanta, as well as the cities of Athens and Gainesville, GA. The newspaper is published twice monthly. Its 21,000 copies serve an estimated 76,000 readers.

"This is a dream come true for me," said Lancette, who spent 16 months in Valencia, Spain, where he taught English and learned Spanish. "Ever since I was a kid, I dreamed of my interests in journalism and Spanish coming together."

Lancette earned his journalism degree from the University of Georgia in 1991 before traveling to Alaska and then Spain. He joined Mundo Hispanico as a freelance writer in January 1994 when he began covering the Georgia legislature.

Lancette, only the second non-Hispanic editor in the paper's 15-year history, also directs the company's radio program on Radio Exitos, heard in Atlanta and Gainesville. The program airs twice a week and, according to Lancette, is "a variety program, in terms of mixing a very wide variety of Spanish-language music with local and international Hispanic sports, entertainment, and a heavy dose of the news. One of the things we rely on in our news segments is interviews."

When the issue of an Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) crackdown known as "Operation Southpaw" became news, Lancette saw his opportunity.

"Remembering that I had read that Libertarians favor open immigration and free trade, and that that was the only logical position to this dispute, and it was clearly not being expressed by anybody that I had interviewed, I thought now is the perfect chance to start including Libertarians among my news sources."

Lancette contacted the LP national headquarters in Washington, DC, and was put in contact with former Maryland LP Chair Lorenzo Gaztanaga, a Spanish-speaking Libertarian.

http://www.lp.org/lpn/9509-Hispanic.html


From your link:

Q: What kind of people are not welcome as members of the Free State Project?

A: Anyone who promotes violence, racial hatred, or bigotry is not welcome.
http://www.freestateproject.org/org/faq


Seems like your own org doesn't want you for your bigotry:

I'm a Libertarian because I want to live in a world where you can (for example) put "No Niggers, Jews or Faggots" in a Help Wanted ad