Objections to Christianity (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/50304ns.htm)

by National Socialist

3 MAY 2004

-Christianity is not a European-derived or original Aryan religion. My ancestors weren't Christians, and I have no reason to be. I don't know whether or not there is a God, but if there is, he didn't create my people as Christians. Christianity is semitically-derived religion and does not belong in Europe.

-Christianity and the Old Testament are made up. The history of the bible is thrown together out of scattered mythology from many cultures, belonging to the peoples among whom the Jews had lived during their early history.

-Christianity is universalistic. It creates a false identity in place of the racial identity created by nature. It is a religion that belongs to no people. It postulates one God for all. Instead of strengthening the separate peoples and their identities it weakens them. It takes away their racial instincts and sense of nationalism.

-Christianity was introduced to Rome by subversive elements. Jewish agitators spread the anti-militaristic doctrine at a time when Rome and the Jewish people were at war. Instead of proselytizing in their own lands to their own people they deceptively brought it to Rome, where it would harm the national spirit and increase racial dissolution.

-Originating in a foreign and hostile people and brought to the western world with hostile intentions, it was then taken up by various emperors after it had achieved a level of popularity, and used to pacify the disparate masses of the empire, to ease the tension and make ruling the people easier. It made sense as a universal Roman religion to replace the various and distinct national religions of the many subject peoples, and thereby to secure Roman rule even as Roman military power declined. In this way the German people were converted to the Roman religion, as well as the remaining Celts, the Slavic, Balkan, Byzantine, Greek and Egyptian peoples, etc. Only the rise of Islam put an end to this unnatural situation, driving a wedge between the European and Afro-Asian world. We should be ever grateful for this wedge and hope that it remains forever.

-The Roman doctrine was thrown together in a sloppy manner and various contradictory claims caused internal dissent in the church almost immediately, and eventually caused large-scale rebellion, massive civil war and bloodshed, destroying large portions of our race.

-It is simply untrue. People should taught to be logical, to see the world with clear and unbiased eyes. The scientific spirit should be encouraged, the desire to learn and understand the world must be instilled. To the extent that the people are not able to understand nature, they should be taught to respect and revere it. They must never turn away from it and create false idols and imaginary gods in its place.

-Mythology and religion are not to be believed literally. There is no supernatural or magical world. However, religious teachings can be a valuable and desirable influence, if designed and structured properly. Religion should be made to appeal to the better nature of man and inspire in him ideals. It should promote health and physical beauty. It should strengthen the national spirit and the increase feeling for one's race.

-Religion must affirm nature, not contradict it. Thus, it should aim to strengthen the racial identity of peoples, as created by nature, rather than weaken them. Christianity denies nature. It erects false barriers where none belong (as between sects) while tearing down natural ones (as between races).

-A religion develops naturally in a people. It reflects the inner character of the people and is suited to their needs. The pagan Gods were the protectors of the nation. The priest who spoke for the Gods also stood in the front lines in battle. The priesthood often also constituted a warrior class. The national religion was built to serve the nation.

Christianity created opposite conditions. Instead of protecting the people from external enemies, it created internal conflicts and caused needless bloodshed. In times of real wars, the church stood at the forefront of sedition and treason, unless it saw some advantage for itself. It caused civil wars in order to spread its grasp over peoples.

-Christianity disregards all other institutions: the nation, the state, and the God-ordained institution of race, and is loyal only to its own power. Religion should always serve the interests of the people. It should always be shaped and molded by the true leaders of the people, not by foreigners. Otherwise, it is not religion, but slavery.

-Christianity was forcefully imposed upon our ancestors by foreigners. It spread in just the same way as Islam, by brute force and mass murder. It neither developed naturally with the people nor was it given to them in their own interests by their own leaders. It was forced upon them by enemies. Many thousands of the best people who resisted were slaughtered, along with the keepers of the native faith. Scientific and philosophical progress came to a halt. Libraries were burned and destroyed. History was falsified and the study of nature banished.

-Christianity originated in the Semitic world, among Jews, the first of many harmful universalistic dogmas originating with this group. Its original intent was that of Bolshevism: Jewish demagogic leadership of the masses and dissolution of national identity of other peoples. It then became a petrified institution, primarily interested in its own power, much like the post-Jewish Soviet Union, ruled by Popes as the other was by Party Secretaries. Just as Bolshevism, universalistic Christianity is the enemy of all peoples.

While it blesses the marriages of Negroes and Whites, ships in converts from the third world and installs them in the pulpits across America, in a shameful attempt to ingratiate itself with America's new masters, it at the same time abandons the White world to it's fate without even putting up a fight for our people, and looks for greener pastures in the non-white world, where it sees a future for itself.

Well, good riddance. We don't need it, never did. It's time for a serious worldview, a grown up world view, and the coming fight for our existence will be the baptism of fire for that new worldview, and, I believe, the final parting of ways for our race and this wayfaring Semitic creed and its clerical hangers-on.

Some sentimentalists would like to make something viable out of Christianity. I don't think it will matter. If we manage to make it out of this century alive we'll have done it without Christianity. A new worldview will be forged out of our struggle, a truly European worldview. For that we can all hope.

NATIONAL SOCIALIST

(REMAINING ANONYMOUS BECAUSE OF THE UTTER INTOLERANCE TO DISAGREEMENT OF CHRISTIANS)

Objections to Christianity (http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/2004b/50304ns.htm)

by National Socialist

3 MAY 2004

-Christianity is not a European-derived or original Aryan religion. My ancestors weren't Christians, and I have no reason to be. I don't know whether or not there is a God, but if there is, he didn't create my people as Christians. Christianity is semitically-derived religion and does not belong in Europe.

Whatever Christianity's roots, most of its theology, traditions, and doctrines were developed and/or refined by non-Jews.

Once the original disciples were killed or died, the Church was almost completely non-Jewish. This is completely in accordance with Christ's teachings of God's favor being taken away from the Jews due to their apostasy and corruption, and given to the Gentiles.


-Christianity and the Old Testament are made up. The history of the bible is thrown together out of scattered mythology from many cultures, belonging to the peoples among whom the Jews had lived during their early history.

An opinion.


-Christianity is universalistic. It creates a false identity in place of the racial identity created by nature. It is a religion that belongs to no people. It postulates one God for all. Instead of strengthening the separate peoples and their identities it weakens them. It takes away their racial instincts and sense of nationalism.

Since races and nations are the creation of God, Christianity can hardly be out to destroy these. Neither has the Church ever advocated interracial marriage.


-Christianity was introduced to Rome by subversive elements. Jewish agitators spread the anti-militaristic doctrine at a time when Rome and the Jewish people were at war. Instead of proselytizing in their own lands to their own people they deceptively brought it to Rome, where it would harm the national spirit and increase racial dissolution.

In the early days of the Church, the Jews always allied themselves with the pagans to suppress the Christians. The pagan emperor Julian favored the Jews and tried to re-establish Roman paganism, while suppressing the Christians. To this day Jews consider Julian favorably.


-Originating in a foreign and hostile people and brought to the western world with hostile intentions, it was then taken up by various emperors after it had achieved a level of popularity, and used to pacify the disparate masses of the empire, to ease the tension and make ruling the people easier. It made sense as a universal Roman religion to replace the various and distinct national religions of the many subject peoples, and thereby to secure Roman rule even as Roman military power declined. In this way the German people were converted to the Roman religion, as well as the remaining Celts, the Slavic, Balkan, Byzantine, Greek and Egyptian peoples, etc. Only the rise of Islam put an end to this unnatural situation, driving a wedge between the European and Afro-Asian world. We should be ever grateful for this wedge and hope that it remains forever.

Churches were established in Greece, Syria, and Egypt before Rome.

The Slavs remained mostly pagans until converted by missionaries sent into Russia by the Church of Constantinople in the tenth century.

The first church in England was established by Joseph of Arimethea in 35 AD. He had nothing to do with Rome.

The Celtic Church was largely independant and wasn't brought under Rome's authority until 800 AD.


-The Roman doctrine was thrown together in a sloppy manner and various contradictory claims caused internal dissent in the church almost immediately, and eventually caused large-scale rebellion, massive civil war and bloodshed, destroying large portions of our race.

As if wars and death didn't happen for many other reasons.



-It is simply untrue. People should taught to be logical, to see the world with clear and unbiased eyes. The scientific spirit should be encouraged, the desire to learn and understand the world must be instilled. To the extent that the people are not able to understand nature, they should be taught to respect and revere it. They must never turn away from it and create false idols and imaginary gods in its place.

If people disregard the spiritual, then what is the purpose of life?


-Mythology and religion are not to be believed literally. There is no supernatural or magical world. However, religious teachings can be a valuable and desirable influence, if designed and structured properly. Religion should be made to appeal to the better nature of man and inspire in him ideals. It should promote health and physical beauty. It should strengthen the national spirit and the increase feeling for one's race.

Opinion.



-Religion must affirm nature, not contradict it. Thus, it should aim to strengthen the racial identity of peoples, as created by nature, rather than weaken them. Christianity denies nature. It erects false barriers where none belong (as between sects) while tearing down natural ones (as between races).

If Christianity denied nature, then it would be denying God's creation.

God instilled race consciousness in man, therefore Christianity cannot be at odds with it.



-A religion develops naturally in a people. It reflects the inner character of the people and is suited to their needs. The pagan Gods were the protectors of the nation. The priest who spoke for the Gods also stood in the front lines in battle. The priesthood often also constituted a warrior class. The national religion was built to serve the nation.

Considering that our race was overwhelmingly Christian and acheived more than any other race in history, I think Christianity has served us well.


Christianity created opposite conditions. Instead of protecting the people from external enemies, it created internal conflicts and caused needless bloodshed. In times of real wars, the church stood at the forefront of sedition and treason, unless it saw some advantage for itself. It caused civil wars in order to spread its grasp over peoples.

This is nonsense. In many cases the Church served as a great source of strength for the nation.


-Christianity disregards all other institutions: the nation, the state, and the God-ordained institution of race, and is loyal only to its own power. Religion should always serve the interests of the people. It should always be shaped and molded by the true leaders of the people, not by foreigners. Otherwise, it is not religion, but slavery.

This is where you are wrong. The people and nation serve God first. Religion defined by whatever the government decides at the momement is not religion, but just another method for wicked men to control people.


-Christianity was forcefully imposed upon our ancestors by foreigners. It spread in just the same way as Islam, by brute force and mass murder. It neither developed naturally with the people nor was it given to them in their own interests by their own leaders. It was forced upon them by enemies. Many thousands of the best people who resisted were slaughtered, along with the keepers of the native faith. Scientific and philosophical progress came to a halt. Libraries were burned and destroyed. History was falsified and the study of nature banished.

Although some were forced to convert, many converted willingly, especially in the early days of Christianity. Many people were fed-up with the corruption and immorality of the pagan religions of their day.


-Christianity originated in the Semitic world, among Jews, the first of many harmful universalistic dogmas originating with this group. Its original intent was that of Bolshevism: Jewish demagogic leadership of the masses and dissolution of national identity of other peoples. It then became a petrified institution, primarily interested in its own power, much like the post-Jewish Soviet Union, ruled by Popes as the other was by Party Secretaries. Just as Bolshevism, universalistic Christianity is the enemy of all peoples.

This is another false claim. The Jews have consistantly attacked Christianity from the very beginning and always considered Christians their most dangerous enemy. In recent years, Jews have supported heretics and Judaizers like Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsey, etc., in an effort to undermine Traditional Christianity and further Zionist goals. The important point is the Jews have NEVER supported Traditional Christianity.


While it blesses the marriages of Negroes and Whites, ships in converts from the third world and installs them in the pulpits across America, in a shameful attempt to ingratiate itself with America's new masters, it at the same time abandons the White world to it's fate without even putting up a fight for our people, and looks for greener pastures in the non-white world, where it sees a future for itself.

As bad as it is, the fact is only a tiny number of liberal churches bring these numerically insignificant third worlders to this country. But this is more than made up for by the higher birthrate of the whites in the traditional Christian churches. In fact, the traditional churches are virtually the last significant repository of white women who aren't completely corrupted with feminism and are actually willing to reproduce at above-average rates.


(REMAINING ANONYMOUS BECAUSE OF THE UTTER INTOLERANCE TO DISAGREEMENT OF CHRISTIANS)

What a cop-out! You're remaining anonymous because you don't have the integrity to stand behind your own words. I put up with insults and abuse from pagans and anti-Christians all day. I couldn't care less about their intolerance.

Yours truly,
William Scott
Pittsburgh, PA

I put up with insults and abuse from pagans and anti-Christians all day.

Really? You must have fine-tuned yourself to it then.

Just for the hell of it put up a Christian website and wait for all the "insults and abuse."

Then put up a website simply pointing out that bible stories are myths and wait for the shit to fly. I guarentee you nothing but "insults and abuse" not to mention death threats, police harrassment and damn right I speak from experience.

Christians in America take tax dollars for "faith based initiatives", shout down opponents, arrange wars for Israel (George Dubya's a xian) and then say they are persecuted when they encounter one fucking article that disagrees with them.

You got the shoe on the wrong foot here.

The real deal is this forum is one of the few places you can't shut your opponents up and it drives you nuts -- right? Because there are Christian forums all over the web where you know the only "insults and abuse" on them will be directed at pagans and atheists.

Really? You must have fine-tuned yourself to it then.

Just for the hell of it put up a Christian website and wait for all the "insults and abuse."

Then put up a website simply pointing out that bible stories are myths and wait for the shit to fly. I guarentee you nothing but "insults and abuse" not to mention death threats, police harrassment and damn right I speak from experience.

Christians in America take tax dollars for "faith based initiatives", shout down opponents, arrange wars for Israel (George Dubya's a xian) and then say they are persecuted when they encounter one fucking article that disagrees with them.

The difficulty in trying to discuss this issue is so many of you mistakenly think that Christian Zionism is true Christianity. But to traditional Christians like myself, Christian Zionism is a abominable false doctrine.

I certainly don't support what Bush is doing. I oppose virtually everything the Jews do and have for many years.


The real deal is this forum is one of the few places you can't shut your opponents up and it drives you nuts -- right? Because there are Christian forums all over the web where you know the only "insults and abuse" on them will be directed at pagans and atheists.

I'm not trying to shut anyone up. How do you think I could do that anyway?

When you guys go around calling even pro-white Christians "christcunts" and "sticklickers", what do you expect, the welcome wagon?

When you guys go around calling even pro-white Christians "christcunts" and "sticklickers", what do you expect, the welcome wagon?

I don't use those terms, but the point is you only see them here anyway.

There's an honest disconnect on this whole issue anyway. Pagans and atheists really do get fired and harrassed in this country, where the Bible Belt grew and engulfed the whole thing. Logic tells you when they come here to get a bit of their own back, they're gonna let fly.

At the same time a few of us have actually left white-oriented email groups and chat rooms rather than offend Christians in them, if Christians were the majority. It's happened a total of 3 times out of several dozen groups and sites I've been in over the years, because if Christians come up with a WN movement that flies, who would complain? Shucks, I made a pretty good dent in The Book of Mormon some years ago because it might have made a vehicle for WN.

Nationalists not suspicious of religions started by empires are rare, I think you'll find out. Understand their suspicion because I think you are rational enough to work with that.

There's an honest disconnect on this whole issue anyway. Pagans and atheists really do get fired and harrassed in this country, where the Bible Belt grew and engulfed the whole thing. Logic tells you when they come here to get a bit of their own back, they're gonna let fly.

I lived in the Bible Belt for almost 20 years and wasn't a Christian. Nobody ever bothered me about it. But I always respected Christians. I didn't go around calling them names. You take a guy like "Mr. Antichrist" and I can see how a person with his attitude would have trouble in the Bible Belt. But wouldn't you agree that it wouldn't be without provocation?



At the same time a few of us have actually left white-oriented email groups and chat rooms rather than offend Christians in them, if Christians were the majority. It's happened a total of 3 times out of several dozen groups and sites I've been in over the years, because if Christians come up with a WN movement that flies, who would complain?

Still plenty of anti-Christians at Stormfront the last time I checked.



Shucks, I made a pretty good dent in The Book of Mormon some years ago because it might have made a vehicle for WN.

I think the problem is everyone is looking for some air-tight 100% racial religion as a counter to Judaism. So they look to all kinds of false religions in hope of finding it. I mean people generally consider Judaism a racial religion, but, in actual fact, almost anyone can convert to Judaism if they really want to. So even the Jews can't isolate themselves totally, but in practice very few people actually desire to convert, so its not a big issue.

We don't live in a hermetically sealed society, but unless one belongs to a very liberal church that actively strives to be multiracial, the churches in America are pretty segregated according to race. Probably more so than anything else. There's obviously no force involved, but rather natural choice. Now if Christianity was so fundamentally devoted to mongrelizing the world as some claim, then racially intergrated churches would be the norm everywhere. But in reality the opposite is true - even in areas with high numbers of non-whites. Without some kind of outside agitation or pressure, even non-white Christians prefer their own churches.

I guess my point is I find no conflict in being a Christian and pro-white. There's nothing in Christianity that says one has to facilitate the destruction and dispossession of one's race. Or that one's race must become a doormat for other races. Or that we're under some obligation to allow other races to be parasites off us. Or that its somehow immoral to control immigration.



Nationalists not suspicious of religions started by empires are rare, I think you'll find out. Understand their suspicion because I think you are rational enough to work with that.

I understand the pagan/anti-christian position. I used to have that opinion myself, although I was never actively hostile or belligerent towards Christians. What purpose does it serve? Do these active antagonists think they make me sympathetic to their view by using insults? No, just the opposite.

Most? Is this an admission that parts of christinsanity was developed by jew?? I don't know about you, but I want a religion that is wholly created by and for White people. (I find Odinism fits this bill) Why would I want to worship that was in part created by some dirty jew??

If Odinism was any good, it wouldn't have been overwhelmed by Christianity.

One other thing, do you think that before Christianity, European paganism was simply the worship of Odin? Think again. European paganism was full of all kinds of gods from outside Europe. Baal (Bel) worship was widespread. Bel was a Babylonian pagan god.


So at one time the Church had jews in it??? Personally I would want nothing t do with any organization with a past like that!!!

In the very beginning. This was part of God's rejection of the Jews. A handful of good Jews were the remnant of Israel that passed the true religion to the Gentiles. Christ said that God would take away his grace from the Jews and give it to "a nation that would bear fruit." Christ used the parable of the fig tree where He told the gardener that if the tree didn't produce fruit after three years, cut it down. The Jews "produced no fruit" in the three years of Christ's ministry, so they were abandoned and cursed for their apostasy and murder of Christ.




It is impossible for a Gentile to convert into Orthodox judaism. (they will let Gentiles in to liberal judaism, but this is just a charade) Also Gentiles are not allowed to live in Israel (they may visit on vacation, like Christian Zionists do.. but they won't let your White ass stay and live there)

False. There are many Russians in Israel who got in because they claimed they had a Jewish grandparent. There's even a nazi party in Israel now made of of these supposed Russian Jews.



The Churchs strategy is to import non-Whites. Notice this has nothing to do with having the non-Whites attend the Church.

Example: Lutherans are infamous for importing Somalis. But guess what?? the Somalis are not Lutheran and do not go to Lutheran Chuches, in fact the Somalis are Muslims!!!

I know all about the Lutheran situation. And its only the Evangelical Lutherans who have done this, not all Lutherans. The ELs represent only a small percentage of Christians. The vast majority of churches aren't involved in any such activity.


The only reason the Churchs don't try and convert these non-Whites after they have arrived and get them to attend the Church is that then the Whites who pay for the Church would leave because they do not want to be around these non-Whites. Some luke-warm Christians still have racist instincts after-all.

You take some isolated cases and try to apply them to everybody. That's nonsense.

For every case like that, I could show you examples where Christians are helping our race. Right now, in Europe and Russia, the Pope and leaders of the Orthodox Church are trying to increase the white birthrate by encouraging people to have babies and getting governments to restrict abortion. The Pope gave a speech a few months ago where he said that the white birthrate of Europe needs to increase or there's going to be trouble.

The Orthodox Church helps their members here in the US, who are 99% white, adopt orphans from Russia. Also the Church runs orphanages in eastern Europe. For example:

http://www.oca.org/pages/events/2003/08.August/0803KyivUKRAINE-PrimatialVisit/0806ChernovtsyUKRAINE-Monastery2/index.html


Matthew 5
38 "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.'
39 But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also;

Sounds like a recipe for self-immolation to me...

That's because you don't understand Christianity. You see something in the Bible and just assume you have a complete understanding. In case you haven't noticed, the Church has obviously preserved itself for 2,000 years.

If Christianity is so weak, what does that say for Odinism and the other forms of paganism it won out over?

By this logic ZOG is good because it has overwhelmed the original United Stateses Constituational Republic...

I suppose that argument could be made .............or that we just became weak. I think if we were practicing real Christianity, we wouldn't be troubled much by Jews and our race problems.



Obviously I count the Roman Pantheon, Greek Pantheon and Celtic Druidism... I try not to swear on these forums, but what a fucking stupid question.

There were all kinds of gods being worshipped in Europe before Christianity. Not all of them European in origin. As I said, Bel worship was widespread. There's even evidence that the Vikings brought Bel worship to north America when they came here before Columbus.



"good Jews"??!?! This is part of the problem, right there. I Why should White folks have anything to do with something that was in part created (and manipulated) by jews??

I don't tell God how to run the world. Of course, I realize you would likely reject that idea, but He tried with the Jews and they were obviously corrupt and rotten, so He abandoned them. Are you saying that puts the Jews in some favorable position? I don't think so.



Examples are nonsense?!?! Would you like me to write a post about Catholics subverting immigration laws (and working to re-write said laws also) so that the Catholics can bring more spics into the USA and continue the ethnic cleansing of Whites?

Most of these examples that I see aren't the Catholic Church, per se, doing something, but an individual liberal parish or some organization using "Catholic" in its name. But regardless, we're still talking about a minority of Christians.

My Church isn't involved in that stuff. If anything, my Church helps whites come to America.


If I don't have an understanding of Christianity, how is that I managed to become a confirmed member of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America???? (of course I am no longer a member, that was from when I was a teenager and forced to attend)

The Evangelical Lutherans are wrong on many things. You know that. In a pathetic effort to pander to the Jews, they even disavowed Martin Luther's writings! How low can they go?

The Fathers of the Orthodox Church wrote many things unfavorable to Jews, but they will never disavow those.



Where did I post that christinsanity is weak??

On the contrary, and I agree that it is very powerful!! But that power is utilized for ends that are destructive for Whites!!!

It utilizes its powers to get White people to agree with Zionism!! (Christian Zionists) It utilizes its powers to place televangelists on the air to get lemmings to send in more money for Jeebus. It utilizes its power to force polytheistic Pagans to say the monotheistic "under God" in the pledge of allegiance at public school. It utilized its power to burn my ancestors at the stake!

If you were a Lutheran, you know these Christian Zionists are out-and-out heretics! Centuries ago they would have been denounced by the Church as Judaizers. These people don't represent traditional Christianity.

As far as burning people at the stake, I'm not going to defend that, but only remark that when the pagans had the power they certainly killed a lot of Christians. Remember the collosium? So you can't have it both ways.

I guess my point is I find no conflict in being a Christian and pro-white. There's nothing in Christianity that says one has to facilitate the destruction and dispossession of one's race. Or that one's race must become a doormat for other races. Or that we're under some obligation to allow other races to be parasites off us. Or that its somehow immoral to control immigration.

This is a point on which honorable men might differ, I'll grant. At the same time, between myself and Toledo (roughly 90 miles) there are plenty of "immigration activists" and most are funded by Christian sects, or massive foundations working through local pastors. There is way too much Christian activist anti-white activity I see all the time for me not to assume there is a connection, and I'll see it till it goes away.

Tried?? Sorta' puts a hole in the christian assertion that God is omniscient!! Wouldn't the Almight know that the jews were corrupt and rotten from the very beginning!?!?!?!

God gives everybody a chance, even the Jews. Likewise today, nobody is forced to become a Christian. We are all free to reject God and be as rotten as we choose. But we will all answer for our decisions.



Actually I can. christians are artificial jews and should be treated accordingly!

Whatever.

This is a point on which honorable men might differ, I'll grant. At the same time, between myself and Toledo (roughly 90 miles) there are plenty of "immigration activists" and most are funded by Christian sects, or massive foundations working through local pastors. There is way too much Christian activist anti-white activity I see all the time for me not to assume there is a connection, and I'll see it till it goes away.

The problem that I see is not due to Christianity, but rather liberal subversion within some denominations and churches. But isn't that true about so many other things?

Only a hundred and fifty years ago, Christianity suppored both slavery and segregation. So what changed? Has the Bible changed? No, men's minds have changed.

That was funny "no one is forced to become a christian" lol Well, I will be sure to tell the millions of people who were told to convert or die and at the very lest be enslaved if they did not. Christianity is the mother of liberalism as the liberalism is just christinsanity without the jesus.

That's a completely absurd comment, since Christianity is a conservative force. Look around. As Christianity has been under attack, liberal degeneracy has increased.

You know, some of you statements are worth at least a little consideration, but when you claim that Christianity encourages liberalism, you sound like a madman.

The fact is you hate Christianity. I'd bet you would rather drink a bucket full of buzzard puke than admit something good about Christianity.