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Devere
February 16th, 2007, 07:59 PM
It's somewhat of an open question for me -- but I think it's a fairly important one. Aryan jew expert Kevin MacDonald (Culture of Critique) thinks Ashkenazi jews are not descended from the Khazars. Most of us know the argument favoring their being Khazars. Here's the argument against their being Khazars -- written by jews, not MacDonald:

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DID MODERN JEWS DESCEND FROM KHAZARS?

Many anti-Semites complain that modern Jews are not the Biblical Jews but are descended from the Khazars. The Khazars converted to Judaism and thus modern day Jews, it is claimed, are imposters who have no claim on the Land of Israel, Eretz Yisrael. This claim will be discussed in the following sections.

It is also interesting to note that the same anti-Semites who complain about the alleged contents of the Talmud, which was completed no later than 500 C.E. also claim that the Jews of today are "self-styled Jews" descended from the Khazars who converted to Judaism in 740 C.E. Some even claim that the "true" descendants of the Biblical Jews are the modern day "Aryans". So according to this "logic" the Talmud which they complain about would actually be an "Aryan" book and not that of the modern Jews!

Its difficult to see how they can reconcile these two seemingly contradictory positions.

David S. Maddison(maddison@connexus.net.au)

RESPONSE (1)


THE HISTORICAL EVIDENCE

From: JGARBUZ@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: Jewish Filth Taking Over the World
Date: 7 Aug 1998 01:51:14 GMT
Message-ID: (35C9EC6D.7CFF@postoffice.worldnet.att.net)

As for Ashkenazim being Khazars, for one thing there were Jews on the Rhine (who came with the Romans) long before there was a Khazaria and even before many Germanic tribes settled there. In fact, the word Ashkenaz means Germany in Hebrew. Second, even if a group of Khazars abandoned their own homeland and adopted Jewish peoplehood by conversion it still doesn't negate their right to the land of Israel. Even Moses's wives weren't born Hebrews and Ruth the Moabitess was a convert (see Book of Ruth). Unlike the Germans, membership in the Jewish peoplehood is not based soley on blood.

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DESCENDED FROM KHAZARS?

The following article addresses the issues of the Khazars with reference to a particular anti-Semitic film where the same claim is made.

From "The Other Israel - Is it Really Accurate", 1990 Dennis Green, Stuart Hayward, Phillip Woodfield Opposition to Anti-Semitism, Incorporated, Christchurch, New Zealand.

In the film, Ted Pike makes the assertion (as have most anti-Semitic groups, including the Nazis) that the Jews of European origin, the "Askhenazim" (who comprise almost 80% of today's Jewry), are actually descended from a medieval people called the Khazars, who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. The logic of the argument goes something like this; if 80% of all the Jews in tile world are not really Jews, then, firstly, these Jews have absolutely no claim, biblical or otherwise, to the Land of Israel. Secondly, these Jews are in no way the people of God, and thus, have no place in the promises or plans of God. Thirdly, if the vast majority of present-day Jews are not Jews (therefore, not Semitic) at all, then it cannot be considered "anti-Semitic" to oppose them.

Pike states that 'Today, the Askhenazim, or Khazars, form the majority, Around 80 %, of those who call themselves Jews." He claims that the Mongols drove the Khazar-jews into Germany, Poland and Russia in the 13th century, and that these, not "real" Jews, are the people who now make up most of the population of Israel. Quite simply, this is not true, as the basic analysis below will show.

The Khazars were a confederation of Turkish tribes who established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century. As a trading nation, they were faced with a dilemma; tile Christians would not trade freely with Muslim nations, and the Muslim nations would not trade freely with the Christian nations. The Khazars did not want to be recognized as being more partial to one faith than the other. Therefore, around 740 C.E., King Bulan adopted Judaism, and thus, as a "neutral" people, the Khazars could trade more freely with both the Christian and Muslim nations that bordered Khazaria. It should be noted, however, that it was only the "ruling class" that adopted Judaism, not the general Khazar population, as Ted Pike and the other anti-Semites claim (1). These Khazar-Jews had little, if any, contact with the central Jewish organisation in Iraq, or with the Jews who still lived in Palestine (as the Romans had renamed the province of Judea in 135 C.E.). These Khazar-jews had, in fact, closer links with the (Christian) Byzantine Empire, as can been seen by the fact that several Byzantine emperors, including Justinian II (704) and Constantine V (732), had Khazarian wives.

By the 10th century the Khazar empire, faced with the growing strength of the Pechenegs to their north and west, and of the Russians around Kiev, suffered a decline. Khazar power was crushed in 965 when the ruler of Kiev, Svyatoslav, launched a harsh military campaign against them. Many Khazars, including some of those who had converted to Judaism, moved into Bohemia, Russia, Germany, and the Ukraine.

The main error with Pike's argument is his belief that the Khazar-jews are the ancestors of all those Jews who have lived in Northern or Eastern Europe, and therefore, the Askhenazim (Jews of European origin) are not really Jews at all. This argument can be demolished very simply, by showing that there were very large Jewish communities in Northern and Eastern Europe before the Khazar-Jews arrived there, and that these (with perhaps a tiny percentage of Khazar-jews) are the ancestors of the Askhenazim. Thus, these Jews are clearly descended from the Jews of the Bible.

The first Jews to reach Germany were merchants who went there in the wake of the Roman legions, and settled in the Roman-founded Rhine towns. The earliest detailed record of a Jewish community in Germany, referring to Cologne, is found in imperial decrees issued in 321 and 331 C.E. (2)

There were Jews in Russia from the first centuries C.E., although numbers there were small for several centuries. However, Jews emigrated to the Caucasus and beyond, and formed countless communities, at the time of the wars between the Muslims and Persians during the 7th century.(3)

Jews arrived in Pannonia (Yugoslavia) and Romania in the Third Century(4), and in Hungary not long after. France also had large numbers of Jews living there from an early period; Objects identified as Jewish because of the menorah portrayed on them have been discovered around Arles (first, fourth and early fifth centuries) and Bordeaux and the neighboring region (third and early fourth centuries) Evidence of Jewish communities is abundant from 465 onwards.

Jews were, of course, living in all Mediterranean countries for many centuries B.C.E. and, as has been shown, were living in most other European lands from a very early period. Thus, the claim of Ted Pike (and most other anti-Semitic groups) that the European Jews are from Khazar stock, falls flat on its face. There may be a tiny minority of present-day Jews who are descended from Khazar-Jews, but almost all European Jews are descended directly from the Jews of the Bible.

(1) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 10, col. 944
(2) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 7, col. 458
(3) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 14, col. 433
(4) Encyclopaedia Judaica, Vol. 16, col. 868

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WHO IS A JEW?

This is also an exract of an article that addresses the lies presented in the anti-Semitic video "The Other Israel". David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

The video alleges that the Ashkenazim are Khazars and only the Sephardim are authentic Jews. In other words, that the majority of Jews in thhe world today are descended from a heathen, nomad people from central Asia, and not from Abraham.

In support of this contention it states that Jewish missionaries went to Khazaria and as a result the king was converted in A.D. 740 and Rabbinic Judaism became the state religion. It is averred that by the 10th century the Khazari people had convinced themselves that they were descended from Abraham, that they settled in Poland, and that they were the Polish Jews from whom the Ashkenazim, who make up the greater part of Jewry today, were descended. There is enough truth in this assertion to make it seem plausible but unfortunately it flies against the facts.

The Jews who went to Khazaria did not go as missionaries, in the sense that we send out miissionaries today. When the Moslems overan Babylon, the Jews were either expelled or freed to pay half their produce as tribute (13), and when Leo became the Byzantine Emperor one of the measures he passed was for the compulsory conversion of all Jews to Christianity. As a result of these persecutions many Jews from Persia and Greece went to Khazaria to live.(2,3)

In about A.D.700 the Khazar king was converted to Islam and later to Judaism. A later king, Obadiah, greatly strengthened Judaism, inviting rabbis into his Kingdom and building synagogues. Their Judaism - limited no doubt in any case to a comparitively small group (only the king, his attendants and the Khazars of his kind) - was always superficial and they were liable to relapse into paganism. They became what could best be called Judaized Turks. Religious toleration was maintained for the Kingdom's 300 years, with clear traces of Christianity being found among them for the whole historical period. The predominating element in the country were the Muslims, and they formed the royal army(3). In the 10th century, "probably in 965, Khazar leaders appealed to a neighbouring Islamic state for help against invasion but were told that the price of assistance was Khazaria's conversion to Islam. According to Muslim historians the kingdom that had embraced Judaism around 740 suddenly abandoned it less than two and a half centuries later. But this did not save them and by the end of the eleventh century the Khazar empire was no more."(1) There are persistent references to the Khazars as Muslims after A.D. 965(3).

To encourage their own people, Jewish writers have tended to exaggerate the importance of the Khazar conversions to Judaism, leaving out unpalatable facts. The smallest group among the Khazars were the Jews, most of them being Muslims and Christians. The king and his court were Jews for much of their 300 years history and because religious toleration was maintained many persecuted Jews fled there. The fact is that rather than convince themselves by the 10th century that they were Jews descended from Abraham, they found it expedient to convert to Islam.

On the linguistic side, well known Turcologist, A.N.Poliak, regards the Karaite Jews in Poland and the Crimea as the principal present-day representatives of the ancient Khazars, (Karaitism is a minor sect of Judaism quite distinct from mainstream Judaisni) and 'investigations have tended to establish the absence of western influences in Yiddish, though on the other hand affinities with German dialects of the east and south-east have been indicated.'(3)

This is not to say that the occasional occurrence of a fair, light skinned, eastern European Jew doesn't indicate the possibility of some admixture of Khazar blood. However from the thirteenth century there came a great movement across the face of Europe, which was to continue for the next four centuries, to the hospitable lands of Poland and Lithuania.(5)' 'For long generations, therefore, Poland continued to appear in the light of a land of promise for the Jews of northern Europe, and to receive a perpetual accession of new settlers - refugees escaping from massacre, young men seeking opportunity, merchants from as far afield as Italy or the Balkans. In 1500, the number of Jews in the country is estimated to have been only 50,000 souls; a century and a half later, it had risen to half a million. ...so from the beginning of the sixteenth century the overwhelming mass if Askenazic Jewry, the remants of the communities of medieval england and France and Germanym with others from further afield - became concentrated in Poland abd the surrounding Slavonic territories. It is from them that the majority of the Jews in the world today are descended." (4).

REFERENCES

(1) Abba Eban, (1984). Heritage, Civilisation and the Jews
(2) Martin Gilbert, (1969). Jewish History Atlas
(3) D.M. Dunlop, (1987). The History of the Jewish Khazars
(4) Cecil Roth, (1970). A History of the Jews
(5) Chaim Bermant, (1977). The Jews
(13) David J. Goldberg and John D. Rayner, (1987). The Jewish People,Their History and Their Religion.

RESPONSE 4


THE GENETIC EVIDENCE

Apart from the historical evidence proving that a vast majority of present-day Jews did not descend from the Khazars, there is now also genetic evidence. Among the Jews there is the class of priests called Cohanim who served in the Temple and who now carry surnames such as "Cohen" and many variations on that name. Cohanim comprise of about 5% of the male Jewish population. There are strict rules of marriage for the Cohanim and the title is only passed through the male line. Also, converts cannot become Cohanim (but their children will be if they have a Cohen as a father). The priestly line is descended directly from the Aaron of the bible so it is expected that all Cohanim would carry some common genetic features.

In recently published work (1) it was found that 54% of self-identified Cohanim had common genetic features that were revealed by analysis of their DNA. Specifically, a component of the Y-chromosone, an allele YAP+ DYS19, was identified that showed up only 1.5% of the time in Cohanim but 18.4% of the time in a random selection of non-Cohanim Jews and there were other genetic differences apparent as well. (The same differences were apparent for both Sepphardic and Askhenazic Jews also proving a common origin pre-dating a later split between the two groups.)

The large number of Cohanim among present-day Jews and the fact that they have a common genetic lineage traceable to Israel at the time of the Temple, demonstrates that modern Jews come from a population pool derived from Israel and not from the Khazars. The Khazars could not have developed their own lineage of Cohanim anyway, since being a Cohen is a male-inherited status which converts (the Khazars) could not have obtained.

(1) Skorecki K; Selig S; Blazer S; Bradman R; Bradman N; Waburton PJ; Ismajlowicz M; Hammer MF (1997) Y chromosomes of Jewish priests. Nature, 385:32.

David S. Maddison(maddison@connexus.net.au)

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Lord Sidious
February 16th, 2007, 08:06 PM
According to the leftist jews, race is a social construct. How could you use DNA to prove either way if that was the case?

ngrh8r
February 16th, 2007, 08:10 PM
I'm not buying that they are all Khazars, though that group certainly contributed to their genetic makeup.

Ashkenazim are composed of many racial elements, including Turkic, Semite and Aryan. The proportions of individual ethnic groups varies by what region, and even family, that jews come from. Jewish inbreeding has only compounded the issue of racial classification.

The whole "all jews are Khazars" thing is just too convenient, not to mention complex. All the evidence for that hypothesis is based on Christian Identity religious dogma.

I believe that jews have a significant amount of Neanderthal DNA. Physiological and geographic evidence seem to support my beliefs.
Notice that I don't attempt to claim my hypothesis is infallible. Some of the guys here would do well to follow that example.

Lord Sidious
February 16th, 2007, 08:14 PM
I'm not buying that they are all Khazars, though that group certainly contributed to their genetic makeup.

Ashkenazim are composed of many racial elements, including Turkic, Semite and Aryan. The proportions of individual ethnic groups varies by what region, and even family, that jews come from. Jewish inbreeding has only compounded the issue of racial classification.

The whole "all jews are Khazars" thing is just too convenient, not to mention complex. All the evidence for that hypothesis is based on Christian Identity religious dogma.

I believe that jews have a significant amount of Neanderthal DNA. Physiological and geographic evidence seem to support my beliefs.
Notice that I don't attempt to claim my hypothesis is infallible. Some of the guys here would do well to follow that example.

It predates CI dogma. One of the first books on this was The 13th Tribe by Arthur Koestler from 1976. He was a jew himself.

High Speed Nazi
February 16th, 2007, 08:38 PM
The Khazar story was always stupid.

Devere
February 16th, 2007, 11:08 PM
The Khazar story was always stupid.I'm not totally convinced they aren't Khazars. Keep in mind that these arguments I presented were written and researched by jews. You know what jews do...

seeer
February 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM
Jews are not a race. Tom Metzger said they are a conspiracy. Many non-Zionist Jews say they are a religion. http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/greatgulf.cfm

Since they are not a race, how can jew hatred be called racism.

Picture of black Jews.
http://palestinefacts.org/images/ethiopian_jews.jpg
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Lord Sidious
February 17th, 2007, 12:24 AM
Jews are not a race. Tom Metzger said they are a conspiracy. Many non-Zionist Jews say they are a religion. http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/greatgulf.cfm

Since they are not a race, how can jew hatred be called racism.

Picture of black Jews.
http://palestinefacts.org/images/ethiopian_jews.jpg
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Those are falashas. Ethiopian yids. Bin Ladens mother is a Yemeni jewess.

Schnee Weiss
February 17th, 2007, 01:21 AM
And if they aren't all "semitic", then how can there be "anti-semitism?"

Itz_molecular
February 17th, 2007, 01:52 AM
According to the leftist jews, race is a social construct. How could you use DNA to prove either way if that was the case?

Contradiction and hypocrisy are the jews forte . Some might call it , plain old lying .

aherne
February 17th, 2007, 02:04 AM
Absolutely not. As their racial type shows, Ashkenazy Jews are a mixture of Hebrews and Europeans. All European ancestry comes from the female line (MTDNA). Male line is entirely of Semitic descent (Y chromosome) and resembles the one of ethnically related groups (Syrian and Palestinian Arabs).

The only true descendants of real Khazars are the so called Tatar Jews, who used to live in Lithuania (city of Trakai) and were, as all Tatars, partly mongoloid. One must draw sharp distinction between the body of Jews (who are at least in part descended from hebrews) and small peoples who converted to Judaism (in Europe: Khazars, a Turkic tribe, in Asia: Tats, an Iranian group, in Africa: Falashas, a Cushitic group). None of these converts were historically regarded as part of Jewry, for the simple reason they weren't ethnic Jews and inherited some unorthodox religious practices from their pagan past.

Lord Sidious
February 17th, 2007, 02:31 AM
Contradiction and hypocrisy are the jews forte . Some might call it , plain old lying .

Sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh, don't let on that we know. Ok? :D

Celtic_Patriot
February 17th, 2007, 03:39 AM
Kevin MacDonald (Culture of Critique) thinks Ashkenazi jews are not descended from the Khazars.

Kevin MacDonald is right.

The Jews are on historical record as having descended from Abraham. He fornicated with his daughters and created several insane lines of offspring, the Levi and Cohen branches among them.

Then later, as the Jews wandered away from the middle east to Turkey, Georgia, Europe, etc, they bred in a limited degree with the locals.

The Christian WN want to say Jews are not Biblical, not Semitic, not Middle East, so they can transform their Bibles...


This nouveau "Jew Khazaria" imagining just so happens to dovetail nicely with the current zionist thirst for the oil in the Caspian sea area (well they've always wanted that area since 1860, the USSR even tried to make the richest oil area and exclusive Jewish homeland within the USSR, what a joke).

The Jews say they came from where all the oil is the Khazar-Baku Azeri area.

Fact is, the Jews descended from the nut Abraham and the incest of the Abraham family and thus their insanity. Abraham bred with his daughters while travelling from Ur, in Iraq, across Jordan, just in the desert. No oil, nothing but dust and sand. Incest and insanity.

And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

--Genesis 20

And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

--Genesis 19

Notable instances of incest in the Hebrew Bible are: Lot's daughters contriving to have children by him (see LOT AND HIS DAUGHTERS); Tamar contriving to have a child by her father-in-law Judah (see JUDAH AND TAMAR); Jacob marrying Leah and Rachel, who were sisters, and Reuben having sex with his father's wife Bilhah (see JACOB AND LABAN'S DAUGHTERS); Abraham's marriage to his half-sister Sarah (Gen. 20:12); and Amnon's rape of his half-sister Tamar (see AMNON AND TAMAR).


mental disorder • gene expression • Ashkenazi Jews
http://download.interscience.wiley.com//homepages/99018626/_private/coverimage.gif

American Journal of Medical Genetics Part B: Neuropsychiatric Genetics

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G72/G30 Brain Protein.
Jewish insanity is genetic in the G70/G32 encoding proteins in the brain.

A novel gene encoding for a protein called G72 was found to be associated with schizophrenia by Chumankov et al in 2002 (19). It has been suggested that these genes confer their increase risk for schizophrenia via glutaminergic transmission. It is hypothesized that those who produced D72 exhibit a lower NMDA-type receptor glutamate receptor activity. This would predispose individual to develop schizophrenia via glutamate signaling hypofunction. This may play a role in the neurodevelopment hypothesis of schizophrenia,

[1]


Department of Neurobiochemistry. Tel-Aviv University, Tel-Aviv, Israel
Ashkenazi Jews had higher rates of major mental illness (e.g., broadly defined schizophrenia) than non-Ashkenazi.


Abraham's Incest: The Founder Effect
When we look at the crazy Jewish stories of Genesis, Viring Births with Mary and Joseph, Parting the Red Sea, Walking on Water, Incest, Insanity of Noah, Adam and Eve...etc. etc...there is a biological reason for these rabid and insane stories, the Founder Effect and genetic defects.

A founder effect can result either from a true founder event (i.e., the establishment of a new population from individuals derived from a much larger population) or from an extreme reduction in population size (i.e., a bottleneck in size). In either case, alleles present in one copy immediately after the founder event or bottleneck may be found at a much higher frequency than they were previously and can reach even higher frequencies because of strong genetic drift occurring while the population is still small.

Founder effects have been used to explain the presence of high-frequency Mendelian diseases in many isolated populations (Thompson and Neel 1996; Vogel and Motulsky 1996). Even though disease-associated alleles are probably not neutral, even slightly deleterious alleles may increase in frequency because of founder effects. Both the founder effect and heterozygote advantage have been invoked to account for several disease-associated alleles in the Ashkenazi Jewish (AJ) population (Risch 2001). The hypothesis of heterozygote advantage is supported primarily by the fact that four of the diseases-Tay-Sachs disease, Gaucher disease, mucolipidosis type IV, and Niemann-Pick disease-are results of defects in sphingolipid storage (Zlotogora et al. 1988), defects that are quite rare in most other populations.

[2]

The Jews' stories of the Bible are clearly insane.

I really think all WN need to put down their Jewish "Christian" Bibles and get on with finding a new religion, such as the ancient European pagan religions. Yes our White ancestors all had Bibles and were Christians, and yes we all read the Bible New and Old Testaments, and yes we began to see through it over the decades of being a WN.

This Khazaria, if you know Soviet history and oil, is just a convenient way to grab the Baku-Azerbaijan Caspian Sea oil area, in the contemporary era (post USSR collapse). MacDonald was right, so are the tales of Abraham. The Jews are not just Semites, they are a sub-set of Semites, a religious insane genealogical cult. There are plenty of perfectly sane Semites in the ME, Jews are not of them, nor can they ever be because Abraham slept with four of his daughters, thus producing the insanity in the gene seedline.

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References

[1] American Journal of Medical Genetics Part B: Neuropsychiatric Genetics: Department of Neurobiochemistry. Tel-Aviv University, Tel-Aviv, Israel. G72/G30 Brain Protein in AJ (Ashkenazi Jews).

[4] Founder Effect: AJ - Ashkenazi Jew psychosis is genetic: http://www.bioline.org.br/request?mj04014

Warlord
February 17th, 2007, 10:46 AM
No; they are not Khazars. Jews followed the Romans in their conquests (let the Aryans do the hard work of subduing the natives and building roads and cities). When Rome fell, the Jews were left behind. Later, the Teutonic Knights conquered Poland and invited the Jews into these areas as the Poles were still at a tribal/village level and the Jews were desired to set up industries and help administer the conquered peoples. Jews were also involved in the slave trade, selling Slavs into the Ottoman Empire.

The Khazars were a Turkic people whose rulers converted to Judaism. Just as it took centuries for the Norse to convert to Christianity, it would have taken Khazars centuries to fully convert to Judaism. The Russ destroyed the Khazar kingdom before the conversion process was complete. If you look on a map, the Khazars would have had to pass through Russia, the homeland of their conquerors, to get to Eastern Europe, an unlikely scenario. Plus Yiddish and traditional Jewish cooking do not show any Turkic influences. There is no real evidence that Ashkinazi Jews are Khazar desendents. This idea was promulgated by some leftist Jew (Kuntstler?) in the 60's who wanted to show that Jews weren't really White. The concept of the people of color united to throw off their White oppressors was in vogue back then, and that Jews were part of the oppressed, so the dark skinned races shouldn't devour them along with the Whites.

The Warlord

Lord Sidious
February 17th, 2007, 10:48 PM
No; they are not Khazars. Jews followed the Romans in their conquests (let the Aryans do the hard work of subduing the natives and building roads and cities). When Rome fell, the Jews were left behind. Later, the Teutonic Knights conquered Poland and invited the Jews into these areas as the Poles were still at a tribal/village level and the Jews were desired to set up industries and help administer the conquered peoples. Jews were also involved in the slave trade, selling Slavs into the Ottoman Empire.

The Khazars were a Turkic people whose rulers converted to Judaism. Just as it took centuries for the Norse to convert to Christianity, it would have taken Khazars centuries to fully convert to Judaism. The Russ destroyed the Khazar kingdom before the conversion process was complete. If you look on a map, the Khazars would have had to pass through Russia, the homeland of their conquerors, to get to Eastern Europe, an unlikely scenario. Plus Yiddish and traditional Jewish cooking do not show any Turkic influences. There is no real evidence that Ashkinazi Jews are Khazar desendents. This idea was promulgated by some leftist Jew (Kuntstler?) in the 60's who wanted to show that Jews weren't really White. The concept of the people of color united to throw off their White oppressors was in vogue back then, and that Jews were part of the oppressed, so the dark skinned races shouldn't devour them along with the Whites.

The Warlord

I have a friend who is Hungarian who has told me that the khazars went through Hungary into eastern Europe.

1st Edu
February 18th, 2007, 04:56 PM
VNN MEMBERS should publish a thread or article, how to identify a JEW.

Celtic_Patriot
April 5th, 2007, 08:18 PM
VNN MEMBERS should publish a thread or article, how to identify a JEW.

Good point.

Isn't Judaism just a religion? No.


Judaism (and it's psychosis) is genetic.

Why? Because of the Torah. Judaism consists of two things: Talmud, which is a book of hate rules and fantasy stories, and the Torah, which is a record of genealogy, with early fantasy of creation, of genetics associated with family last names.


Torah: Jewish Adam and Eve start off the human race (the Jews claim).
http://torahsearch.com/page.cfm/3391

In Judaism the word of the Talmud (religious doctrine) is impressed into the genetic line by marriage and birth dictated by the Torah. So Judaism, the Torah part, orders the methods in which outside genetics are brought into the genetic group, which we term a race. The religious genetic rules of the Torah, paternity, and caste, such as Levi and Cohen gene lines, influence the actual genetic product -- the Live jew so to speak.


The Cohen Product: A Live Jew Test Sample

Study the Cohen-Levi gene line. The Torah is the marriage record of the jews and shapes the way the tribe develops, genetically. The following example shows the evidence of the Torah being a primarily genealogical book, Cohen equals Kohen here:

Quote:
"Jewish tradition, based on the Torah, is that all Kohanim are direct descendants of Aharon, the original Kohen. The line of the Kohanim is patrilineal: it has been passed from father to son without interruption from Aharon, for 3,300 years, or more than 100 generations."

http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_gen..._tradition.htm
The Torah is enforced on all new Jewish marriages in accordance with the wishes of the Rabbis in order to maintain a genetic course in compliance with the Torah record of the past.

Quote:
"In the first study, as reported in the prestigious British science journal, Nature (January 2, 1997), 188 Jewish males were asked to contribute some cheek cells from which their DNA was extracted for study. Participants from Israel, England and North America were asked to identify whether they were a Kohen, Levi or Israelite, and to identify their family background.

http://www.cohen-levi.org/graphics/lab2.jpg

The results of the analysis of the Y chromosome markers of the Kohanim and non-Kohanim were indeed significant. A particular marker, (YAP-) was detected in 98.5 percent of the Kohanim, and in a significantly lower percentage on non-Kohanim."


http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm


Just a Little Nutty: Jewish Madness

The Torah causes insanity, through inbreeding, see footnotes [3][4][5][6].
While there is evidence Jew extremists were found with boxcutters and explosives videotaping 9/11, there is not reason, yet, to believe ALL Jews are insane terrorists, nevertheless, they all share just a little bit of the Woody Allen nuttiness.

Some examples of the genetic inbreeding of the Torah in Ashkenazi Jews.

http://www.nndb.com/people/501/000022435/woody-All0023.jpg
Torah product sample #2: Dangerous Paedophile: Woody Allen


http://www.vecip.com/images/wolfowitz%20paul.jpg
Torah product sample #3: Jewish Terrorist: Wolfowitz

Torah = Genetic record with some fantasy stories (Adam & Eve, Genesis, etc)
Talmud = Hate rules with some fantasy stories. (Rob, cheat the Goyim, etc)

Together they produce a genetic race called The Jews which believe in the fantasy story of the Torah and the Hate Rules of the Talmud. The Torah (genealogy) keeps the race genetically defined.


The Torah a threat?

Torah is basically the Jews falsifying their ancestry (Adam & Eve, Genesis) and then bringing it into historical genealogical record with fantasy stories interjected)
http://torahsearch.com/page.cfm/3391

Judaism is a genetic racial line enforced by the Torah (genetics) and Talmud (rules) which has been proven by DNA science to cause genetic insanity among Ashkenazi Jews.

While we can't say ALL Jews are a psychotic threat to society, it would be prudent to keep an eye on them through watchdog organizations. Let us repeat, not ALL Jews are insane terrorists capable of commiting another 9/11 on our shores.

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References

[1] Torah: Jews create the world: http://torahsearch.com/page.cfm/3391

[2] Torah: Jews are a genetic race: http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_gen..._tradition.htm

[3] Judaism DNA links to insanity: link data being re-assembled.

[4] Jewish AJ mental diseases caused by DNA: http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auth:Navon,R
Also:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...ubmed_docsu m

[5] COMT haplotype, Jewish genetic insanity: http://www.bioline.org.br/request?mj04014

[6] AJ - Ashkenazi Jew psychosis is genetic: http://www.bioline.org.br/request?mj04014


Not ALL Jews are insane Terrorists.

"NEW YORK (October 26) - Five Israeli men detained in New Jersey
with box-cutters, multiple passports, and $4,000 cash on September
11, the day of the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon,
may be deported back to Israel "
Judaism and 9/11: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ICTS.html

We WN must put an end to Jewish Extremist Hate on the Internet.

King Cormac
April 5th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Kikes are mixed breed mongrels , mostly asiatic mongoloids with mid-eastern admixture.
Many of them look like Turks and have alot in common with said beasties.

Even though they have that mid-east blood it is said that not one of them can claim Shemitic heritage , that is another jEW lie.

jEWS hate real Christianity which teaches correctly that jEWS are the seed of the deamon and did murder Jesus who was a real Hebrew.

jEWS created jUDEO-christianity , they infiltrated the church then butchered the Old Bibles and took out most of the anti-jEW teachings...not all in one go of course , the kikes take their time , they plan decades in advance.

"This is the insidiousness of the KIKE , the pure EVIL of the KIKE".

In our natural state we Caucasians are pure goodness and a BRIGHT LIGHT to the savage darkness we are surrounded by.

jEWZ are the diametric oposite and are at WAR with us.

Dietrich
April 6th, 2007, 01:35 AM
Those are falashas. Ethiopian yids. Bin Ladens mother is a Yemeni jewess.

Sounds like a good insult:

AHHH ya mudda was a Yemeni Jewess!

Lord Sidious
April 6th, 2007, 01:50 AM
Sounds like a good insult:

AHHH ya mudda was a Yemeni Jewess!

That is a good one. I like it. :D

Librarian
April 6th, 2007, 05:48 AM
Ashkenazi Jews have some Khazar genes, but are not actually Khazars per se.

Read this book:

The Genetics of the Jews
by Dr AE Mourant FRS et al.