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lawrence dennis
February 17th, 2007, 11:06 PM
I found this Slashdot post interesting. There are several VNNF threads on jews and communism, and questions arise as to what a race of such successful materialist scammers would see in communism at all. It might, per what follows, be due to the disproportionate number of 'Competent Idealists' among jews and their inability to accept human nature as it really is, rather than as they 'romantically' (or 'dictatorially') see it.


USSR, Cuba, and even "communist" China were never good examples of communism. They are all totalitarian states. Yet in America, we call them communism.

The truth is that [the] only decent example of pure communism would be Israeli collectives.The simple and obvious conclusion is that communism simply doesn't work beyond small, dedicated, voluntary groups. The Marxist ideal of communism supplanting capitalism on any scale larger than "small village" is a crock of shit. I once had a very illuminating conversation with a former hippy commune dweller, who really laid out the folly of universal collectivism. His observation was essentially this:

In the 60's the idea of communes was popular. At a new collective you'd have a fairly representative cross section of work ethics found in general society. At one end of the Bell curve you have the ringleaders, the Competent Idealists. These were the people who truly believed in the commune and usually were the ones who set it up and ran it, despite the supposed pure egalitarianism of the collective. They were the ones working 16-20 hours a day to keep the water running, the food cooking, and generally contributing effort wherever it was needed. Sometimes they'd be bossy dictatorial types, [How 'anti-semitic'! --L.D.] but mostly they were just skilled, energetic idealists who really wanted it to work. The classic "good" hippies who believed in self sufficiency and made their own clothes.

At the other end of the Bell curve you have the Leeches. [Niggers, anyone? --L.D.] These were the folks who thought communism meant you didn't have to work hard and that somehow food, clothing, shelter, and drugs would show up of their own accord. These were the "bad hippies", like the ones you used to find following the Dead around the country, living off the handouts of others, the kind of people who could say out loud at a party, without shame, "I've got papers if anyone's got weed".

In between you have the Vast Majority. Most of them were there because it was fashionable and sounded like it might be better than the status quo. They worked reasonably well, even if they weren't terribly skilled, and took direction fairly well from the Competent Idealists. ["Mooooooo..." --L.D.]

In the beginning, it worked. The Vast Majority and the Idealists were productive enough to make the inevitable Leeches not be a problem. As time went on, however, members of the Majority began to realize that commune life was not actually easier than life "outside". It was, in fact, more work for somewhat measurably less gain. The Majority, not being as thoroughly dedicated as the Idealists, just didn't get that same sense of satisfaction from living "outside the system". As time went on, the Majority began to shrink as disenchanted members left to get regular jobs that paid decent money and let you live in homes with running water. Eventually, as the Majority dwindled, they were left with a small core of hard working Idealists busting their asses even harder to support a small group of lazy slacker Leeches, while their standard of living continued to decline. At some point, the competent Idealists said "fuck this", and went to work for the EPA, or Greenpeace, or some idealistic org or another that needed competent folks and actually paid money. This left the commune unworkable and the Leeches went off to sell plastic beads to middle class concert goers and cajole others into letting them live in the closet under their stairs.

Now imagine what would happen if there were guards at the edge of the commune, telling the Majority folks "No, you don't leave. You get back to work." Any idealism they may have had is long gone. Clearly their motivation will drop to the lowest common denominator, that of the Leeches. Now, the Leeches work a little harder because of the guards with the guns, but not a whole lot. As a result you have a commune that's 10% hard workers, and 90% clock-punchers doing the bare minimum. This is why communism is doomed to fail (or at least doomed to stagnate) at larger scales. You can't enforce mass participation without using force. Compulsory participation will invariably result in little more than the minimum output required to keep from getting shot.

So yes, of course China, the Soviet Union, and Cuba were called communism. They are perfect examples of what communism becomes when you attempt to impose it on an entire country. It is simply not possible, given human nature as we know it, to successfully implement communism in anything larger than a small group of dedicated volunteers. See, the real problem with communism is that Marx was a childish coffee-house philosopher who completely ignored the facts of human nature. [Franz Boas or Sigmund Freud, anyone? --L.D.] His idea for a collective utopia requires the alteration of certain aspects of reality in order to make it work, first and foremost being that not all labor is of equal value; but this is another discussion for another day...