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alex
February 19th, 2007, 06:04 AM
Its only consequent of the goverment of Cuba to migrate their systems from windows to linux. Every single step no matter how small it is ,liberating Cuba from the yoke of imperialism is good.

Nice to see Venezuela talking the essential steps too.

Cuba Embraces Open-Source Software

Feb 16, 3:42 PM (ET)

By JOHN RICE

HAVANA (AP) - Cuba's communist government is trying to shake off the yoke of at least one capitalist empire - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) - by joining with socialist Venezuela in converting its computers to open-source software.

Both governments say they are trying to wean state agencies from Microsoft's proprietary Windows to the open-source Linux operating system, which is developed by a global community of programmers who freely share their code.

"It's basically a problem of technological sovereignty, a problem of ideology," said Hector Rodriguez, who oversees a Cuban university department of 1,000 students dedicated to developing open-source programs.

Other countries have tried similar moves. China, Brazil and Norway have encouraged the development of Linux for a variety of reasons: Microsoft's near-monopoly over operating systems, the high cost of proprietary software and security problems.

Cuban officials, ever focused on U.S. threats, also see it as a matter of national security.

Communications Minister Ramiro Valdes, an old comrade-in-arms of President Fidel Castro, raised suspicions about Microsoft's cooperation with U.S. military and intelligence agencies as he opened a technology conference this week.

He called the world's information systems a "battlefield" where Cuba is fighting against imperialism.

He also noted that Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates once described copyright reformers - including people who want to do away with proprietary software - as "some new modern-day sort of communists" - which is a badge of honor from the Cuban perspective.

Microsoft did not return calls seeking comment. Cuba imports many computer preloaded with Windows and also purchases software in third countries such as China, Mexico or Panama.

Valdes is a hard-liner who favors uniforms and military haircuts, but the biggest splash at the conference was made by a paunchy, wild-haired man in a T-shirt: Richard Stallman, whose Free Software Foundation created the license used by many open-source programs, including Linux.

Middle-aged communist bureaucrats and ponytailed young Cuban programmers applauded as the computer scientist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology insisted that copyright laws violate basic morality; he compared them to laws that would threaten people with jail for sharing or modifying kitchen recipes.

Stallman also warned that proprietary software is a security threat because without being able to examine the code, users can't know what it's doing or what "backdoor" holes developers might have left open for future entry. "A private program is never trustworthy," he said.

Cuba also has trouble keeping proprietary software current. Its sluggish satellite link to the outside world makes downloads of updates agonizingly slow. And U.S. companies, apparently worried about American laws restricting trade with Cuba, are increasingly blocking downloads to the island.

Cubans try to get around the problem by putting software updates on a server located on the island. But many computers wind up unpatched and vulnerable.

Cuba's Cabinet also has urged a shift from proprietary software. The customs service has gone to Linux and the ministries of culture, higher education and communications are planning to do so, Rodriguez said.

And students in his own department are cooking up a version of Linux called Nova, based on Gentoo distribution of the operating system. The ministry of higher education is developing its own.

Rodriguez's department accounts for 1,000 of the 10,000 students within the University of Information Sciences, a five-year-old school that tries to combine software development with education.

Cuba is also training tens of thousands of other software and hardware engineers across the country, though few have computers at home. Most Cubans have to depend on the slow links at government internet cafes or schools.

Rodriguez shied away from saying how long it would take for Cuba to get most of its systems on Linux: "It would be tough for me to say that we would migrate half the public administration in three years."

But he said Linux use was growing rapidly.

"Two years ago, the Cuban free-software community did not number more than 600 people ... In the last two years, that number has gone well beyond 3,000 users of free software and its a figure that is growing exponentially."

Even so, most of the computers at this week's technology conference showed the red, green, blue and yellow Windows start button in the bottom left-hand corner of their screens.

And the start of the open-source sessions was delayed as organizers fiddled with the computer running their projector. The conference room screen had been displaying the words "Windows XP."

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20070216/D8NB1EK05.html

blueskies
February 19th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Tribesman Bill Gates, as usual, the yids are at the forefront in monopoly to enrich and increase power within they’re circle. Since I got my PC, I’ve had to purchase anti virus, and all sorts of software to keep my PC from crashing. The English have a say, where’s there’s quid pro quo , the yids are not that far behind.

Bolg
February 20th, 2007, 09:18 AM
Tribesman Bill Gates, as usual, the yids are at the forefront in monopoly to enrich and increase power within they’re circle. Since I got my PC, I’ve had to purchase anti virus, and all sorts of software to keep my PC from crashing. The English have a say, where’s there’s quid pro quo , the yids are not that far behind.

Yid pro quo. :)

Geoff Beck
February 20th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Yes, get off the Window's treadmill of costly upgrades and proprietary software. My home PC is Linux, Fedora Core 6. Though there are many other distros.


http://distrowatch.com/


Should VNN have have a Linux forum?

RonaldCa
February 21st, 2007, 01:59 AM
For what I'm currently working on, I have to run a dual boot of XP and Debian.
Rather then made "Activation" a regional thing, everyone is forced to pay for the behavior of China. I believe you can only activate XP once every 6 months. After that, you have to make a 5 minute phone call to Microsoft.

A Linux forum would be cool as it would be neat to discuss other important issues, such as software licensing. I can see software licenses being used in the future to silence people. Also, it's not uncommon for a business to be raided by the FBI over accusations of pirated software.

In any case, a friend turned me onto Debian. Debian is neat because it automatically handles the dependencies for you. Many distros, like Slackware, just installs your package with no concerns over whether you've just broken your system.

Bill
February 21st, 2007, 03:47 AM
Linux is so user friendly now, there is no more need for Bill Gates. Some distros are harder than others, but beginner ones like Ubuntu & Mepis, ones like that, any idiot can learn them.

I'm running VectorLinux-5.8-standard-GOLD (http://vectorlinux.com/index.php) right now. It's pretty simple to install & get going also. This is a Slackware 11 based distro, very fast. :)

Bolg
February 21st, 2007, 04:03 AM
Linux is so user friendly now, there is no more need for Bill Gates. Some distros are harder than others, but beginner ones like Ubuntu & Mepis, ones like that, any idiot can learn them.

I'm running VectorLinux-5.8-standard-GOLD (http://vectorlinux.com/index.php) right now. It's pretty simple to install & get going also. This is a Slackware 11 based distro, very fast. :)

Ubuntu is for niggers.

Yep, a linux tech forum would be cool.

RonaldCa
February 21st, 2007, 04:41 AM
For some reason or another, I tried Ubuntu and KUbuntu? Complete waste of time. In the process of making it for "everyone", they removed the beauty of Debian from the equation.

I'm sure why Debian is considered a "hard" distro. I've always considered Slackware the hardcore distro simply due to the dependency issue.

Bolg
February 21st, 2007, 04:48 AM
For some reason or another, I tried Ubuntu and KUbuntu? Complete waste of time. In the process of making it for "everyone", they removed the beauty of Debian from the equation.

I'm sure why Debian is considered a "hard" distro. I've always considered Slackware the hardcore distro simply due to the dependency issue.

I am a Mandrake lover, myself. It's sometimes illogical, but always elegant.
Hey, if you want to be really hardcore, try Gentoo. :)

And if you aim for a Uber-Geek status, there's always Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/).

Bill
February 21st, 2007, 05:36 AM
Gentoo has a new version coming out soon, I'll likely give 'er a try. I have gotten Gentoo installed before, but it is not for the timid or new people, that's for sure.

I am reasonably familiar with FreeBSD, so Gentoo was not that bad. I look at it as basically a Linux version of FreeBSD, except the ports tree is called Portage. I think some of the same people worked on both projects.

Gentoo takes about 12 hrs., to get properly set-up, it's compile-city. :eek: :D



I'm sure why Debian is considered a "hard" distro. I've always considered Slackware the hardcore distro simply due to the dependency issue.

Slackware itself, is to me, absolutely maddening to install, but it is one of the best. Zenwalk, & Vector Linux, they are both Slackware without all the headaches.:)

Debian based distro's to me are the absolute easiest of all.

Mark Kerpolt
February 21st, 2007, 06:07 AM
Ubuntu is for niggers.
Yes, even the name is a word from Swahili (or something like it).

Bill
February 21st, 2007, 06:56 AM
Ubuntu does have a real fucked up theme to it, I mentioned it because a lot of new people, do use it. If you want the KDE version of something real similar, but without the politicizing , for new people I highly recommend Mepis.

J3115
February 21st, 2007, 03:09 PM
Ubuntu does have a real fucked up theme to it, I mentioned it because a lot of new people, do use it. If you want the KDE version of something real similar, but without the politicizing , for new people I highly recommend Mepis.


I can't stand KDE or Gnome, It's bloatware, not sure why people use
it, many of the Linux distros are bundled with that stuff. That's why I
like FreeBSD, you can install Xorg and build the system you want from
ports, not this pre-bundled crap that you're forced to install by
default.

For a desktop system:

Mail: Mutt, spamassassin, procmail, postfix and fetchmail.

News/NNTP; Slrn

Multimedia: Xmms, Xine and Mplayer.

Browser: Firefox & Opera.

A screen shot:
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/7150/snapshot2nc1.png

J3115
February 21st, 2007, 03:33 PM
Gentoo has a new version coming out soon, I'll likely give 'er a try. I have gotten Gentoo installed before, but it is not for the timid or new people, that's for sure.

I am reasonably familiar with FreeBSD, so Gentoo was not that bad. I look at it as basically a Linux version of FreeBSD, except the ports tree is called Portage. I think some of the same people worked on both projects.

Gentoo takes about 12 hrs., to get properly set-up, it's compile-city. :eek: :D



Slackware itself, is to me, absolutely maddening to install, but it is one of the best. Zenwalk, & Vector Linux, they are both Slackware without all the headaches.:)

Debian based distro's to me are the absolute easiest of all.

Gentoo is defiantly one of the better Linux distros out there, very
FreeBSD like. I built and installed Gentoo from a stage-1-tarball. It
took about seven hours to get a functional desktop. What's cool about
Gentoo is that you can build and install using optimization settings of
-O3 pipes. I didn't go that high, you risk system instability -O2 is
stable. You may be able to run at O3 without problems (I didn't try it)

A friend I chat with on IRC installed 'Sorcerer Linux'. According to her
it blows the rest of the Linux distro's out of the water.. You can
check it our here;
http://sorcerer.aakin.net/hype.php

When I get a chance I will give it a try...

J3115
February 21st, 2007, 05:10 PM
Yes, get off the Window's treadmill of costly upgrades and proprietary software. My home PC is Linux, Fedora Core 6. Though there are many other distros.
Should VNN have have a Linux forum?


Fedora is an outstanding O/S. I switched my mail server from OpenBSD to
Fedora 6. Fedora's ExecShield kicks ass, not only that, you can enable
SELinux with a few clicks, On a security level SELinux is on par with
FreeBSD-Jails without the hassle of allocating IP's for each Jail.

Mark Kerpolt
February 21st, 2007, 05:20 PM
OpenSTEP/FreeSTEP is a pretty nice window manager indeed, I used to use it too.

Although, by default - that is, without customizing certain settings and configurations - it did conflict with some (3D graphical) software I used; particularly with mouse-button actions and focussing windows.

RonaldCa
February 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM
One of the reasons I have a large amount of respect for the Linux/FreeBSD community is because they truly believe in helping people and sharing.

Although they have a very vocal and batshit insane group of followers, it does not sway the original intent.

One of my plans was to develop a "White Software License" that gives the RIGHT to racialists to use software without the fear of kike enforcement.
I'm not sure how redundant that idea is, as there are many licenses that guarantee "freedom of use".

There are many people in the software industry who don't necessarily agree with a racialist viewpoint, but do respect and honor the right to have an opinion, as well as the right to be left alone. As with other areas, the Jews are pushing their way in, and they keep their vocal minority on the prowl at all hours.

Bolg
February 22nd, 2007, 02:25 AM
I can't stand KDE or Gnome, It's bloatware, not sure why people use
it, many of the Linux distros are bundled with that stuff.
Browser: Firefox & Opera.http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/7150/snapshot2nc1.png

It's all a matter of taste, said the dog and licked it's balls.

The typical slack/bsd geek is so kewl & l33t that he wouldn't even admit in public to be using a GUI. They are all console wizards, you see, lynx browsing and all. Who needs a solid, slick interface, anyway? I've seen the light, I'm getting rid of my KDE. Hell, I'll wipe out my ncurses while I'm at it. And will get rid of Mandriva & go with slack3.

As if being minimalistic somehow automatically makes a piece of soft better.