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Alex Linder
March 18th, 2007, 09:45 AM
Until today, it was 2m claimed by defenders, 1m claimed by education burrocrats. This CBN report claims four million... (There are about 48 million PSers.)

State Strives to Recapture Homeschoolers
By Michael F. Haverluck
CBNNews.com
March 11, 2007

CBNNews.com -- After making the decision to homeschool in Plano, Texas, the Allen family was disillusioned to discover that the government is not only in the business of unconstitutionally controlling education in the United States, but of pursuing and taking over parental rights in the home.

From last November to early March, the state relentlessly sought to undermine the parents' domestic authority.

Ironically, about one month before the Allens were planning to pull their children from the public school system to home educate them, an anonymous complaint was made with Child Protective Services accusing the parents of "general neglect" and "lack of supervision."

Shortly after the allegations were made, a social worker from CPS interviewed the Allen's children at their public school unannounced and without permission, as reported by the Home School Legal Defense Association. It is disturbing to many that social workers do not need parental consent to interrogate children at school in most states, including Texas.

CPS proceeded to intrusively ask the children if they were spanked, had food to eat, and felt safe at home.

Even though the social worker conceded to Mr. Allen that his children showed no signs of neglect whatsoever, she still pressed for a home visit to question both him and his wife, and to interview each child again privately.

To avoid further interrogation and emotionally disturbing harrassment, HSLDA urged the Allens to immediately take their children out of public school and home educate them.

Not until HSLDA acted on the Allen's behalf and asserted the family's Fourth Amendment rights did CPS close the investigation. The Christian homeschooling organization pleaded the Allen's legal entitlements by providing the state with supporting court decisions and written testimonies from the community confirming the Allen's superb parenting skills, as well as evidence that homeschoolers have the same rights as private schoolers.

It took four months before the CPS's threats and delays ceased to torment the family.

This is not an isolated case, as homeschoolers in many other states have fought similar bouts to keep the far-reaching arm of the government from interfering in the upbringing of their children.

The government's takeover of education

Today, many would find it hard to believe that education was never addressed in the United States Constitution, nor was it discussed at the Constitutional Convention of 1787. The government would like citizens to believe that it reserves the right to educate the nation's youth, yet this right was never bestowed upon it, nor was it stripped away from parents.

The post-civil war industrial revolution started to mainstream public schooling to meet the economy's needs, not the children's. Factories forced parents out of their homes and pushed children into the schools, where they became conditioned for work in the industry and indoctrinated into a national mindset that forwarded the government's agenda.

Socialism, moral relativism, evolution, pro-choice, multiculturalism, environmentalism, gay rights, self-esteem training and sex education are all politically correct/fundamentally wrong concepts promoted in the public schools that have taken their toll on the conservative and biblical values that have formed the backbone of American society.

Through the public schools, the government has played monopoly in the game of education since the turn of the 20th century, controlling the board and children's lives ever since. The recent homeschooling movement, which now provides instruction for 4 million children in the United States, is seen by bureaucrats as usurping their unbridled authority over the education system. Dire attempts to stem this burgeoning exodus from the schools have been made by the state at virtually any cost.

Warnings from the past and present

The powerful lesson that state-run schools can lead an entire nation into a dangerous mindset over time can be understood by noting the controlling communist, fascist and socialist regimes from the not-so-distant past. Given the current trend of limiting parental authority in the education of one's children, it is quite possible for history to repeat itself.

Just how serious are today's governments in keeping their tight-fisted control over education? Ask the Busekros family in Germany, who had their 16-year-old daughter stripped from them in a raid by 15 police officers and placed in a psychiatric ward because the Youth Welfare office claimed her homeschooling father had too much control over her thinking. She is also diagnosed with suffering from "school phobia."

See Dale Hurd's exclusive report and blogs on the state's unwarranted intrusion on the Busekros' homeschooling and family privacy in Germany by clicking on the four related links to the right.

The Nazism of Hitler's Germany, along with the communism of Stalin's Soviet Union and the fascism of Mussolini's Italy, instilled the spirit of mindless compliance and submission in countless youth through state-run schools in the years leading to World War II.

The totalitarianism used to strengthen the patriotic, racist and economic pride of pre-war Germans was strategically planned by Hitler through the use of the school system, as he declared in 1937 that his nation "will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing."

With the indoctrinating liberal agenda facilitated in the schools today, it comes as little surprise that 83 percent of publicly schooled children from committed Christian families adopt a Marxist-Socialist worldview, according to the Barna Institute.

Whatever the goal or purpose behind compulsory education is, the few controlling it wield a great amount of power and can effectively use it.

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/116405.aspx

Alex Linder
March 18th, 2007, 09:50 AM
Christianity makes people unable to see the obvious. It is apparently true that Hitler outlawed HS, but the christians fail to point out that today's PS system deliberately inculcates the opposite of what the nazis inculcated. That at the very least is a highly interesting fact. It is the jews that control our public schools through the textbook guidelines laid down by the monsters in the Department of Education.

Alex Linder
March 18th, 2007, 09:52 AM
The question of how many HS there actually are in America shows how much political debate is based in fantasy. How can the goverment claim there are 1m HSers, while the HS advocates claim 4 million?

Kickin' Ass
March 18th, 2007, 11:30 AM
In a sense, all schooling, be it publicly administered or privately administered, be it grounded in Marxism, Capitalism, National Socialism, Multiculturalism or White Nationalism, is indoctrination. And children will usually follow the beliefs of the dominating authority, be it governmental or parental. So it's not about the government teaching our children that 2 + 3 = 5. It's about the ideological component that's neatly dovetailed into that basic teaching process.

Indoctrination. Even WN's practice it. Those who deny it are themselves clear products of indocrtrination. In other words, there are the indoctrinated and the indoctrinators. The indoctrinators are the leaders, and the indoctrinated are the followers. This does not mean that the process of indoctrination is necessarily filled with untruths, though often it is. In the case of WN, I believe the core ideology is as true as 2 + 3 = 5. That it can be demonstrated to be true, in the same sense that a numerical equation can be proven true - or false.

But beyond the basic truths of WN, ie, that whites built human civilization and virtually all its wonders of science and technology, that blacks are indeed less intelligent than whites, that they are guilty of America's high crime rates, etc, there is also a large component of pure indoctrination involved in WN. For instance, Bill White may well express some of these basic truths, but all the costume role-playing he and his followers practice, ie, that 1930's Stormtroopers are the key to WN victory, etc, is nothing but brainwashing in action. Just pure indoctrination, no different that what the public schools engage in, except for the content and the motive.

The point? That WN relies too little on the power of its truths, and too much on cultism, antiquated and useless uniforms, and blowhards that fancy themselves "great leaders". It's a shame, but those who are motivated purely by the truths of WN must also wade through the muck of silly, irresponsible WN "indoctrinators", and the weak-minded souls who follow them.

Oy Ze Hate
March 18th, 2007, 11:43 AM
Some people can spend a good chunk of their adult lives trying to unlearn the BS learned during childhood. All these "revelations" of common sense and truth are essentially nothing more than growing up. The Bible is a perfect example. Here we have a book full of fables and myths and yet some people go well into adulthood, and indeed even to the end of their lives, clinging to this collection of tales.

Why? Dear childhood memories and youthful recollections. When everything was safe and warm. When the world was new. Like a favorite blanket for your mind.

Real adults put away childish fantasies and deal with reality head on. Facing a glaring and merciless sun. Children in adult form spend their lives believing all the lies they were taught...when the world was new.

It seems off topic but it's not. Christians, public school educated, HS'ed by fundamentalists; it applies. Children are blank slates and some people can spend their lives trying to erase the bogus BS written on that slate.

Oy Ze Hate
March 18th, 2007, 11:47 AM
And I just want to add that the jews have been in control of this country for a lot longer than most of us have been alive. So the "matrix" was in effect from your day one.

John in Woodbridge
March 18th, 2007, 01:10 PM
On talk radio there was a discussion about a German girl (in Germany) that was taken from her parents only because she was being homeschooled. She was given "psychiatric" treatment. They alway state that they are only concerned for the wellbeing of the children, but the fact is that they want "right thinking" young adults.

It was a very chilling news story. I'll try to find a link.