Is there really any truth to it when obese people say that they are fat because they have some sort of thyroid condition or what ever?

I can not imagine that some one can have such a good metabolism that a leaf of lettuce would make them gain 20 pounds, I mean at some stage those fat asses needed some kind of major fuel to grow from, didn’t they?

Too many times have I seen gargantuan fatsos driving or rolling around with 2 liter cokes, and has anybody seen how they always seem to have slop stuck in their faces. I am prone to believe that they really don’t exercise much and that they secretly gorge them selves.

And how about those huge porkers who claim they had several babies, I don't buy that for a second either, they just felt secure in their marriage and let themselves go.

It is both, the mind powers the body and the body powers the mind. You are what you eat.

It's usually an emotional problem and this is why you see more fat women than fat men because women seek to relieve their emotional turmoil through excessive eating.

No one factors beverages into their diets. Sugar will make you real fat, real fast. Lots of little porker kids running around because they always drink soda. The juices kids get is also sugar-loaded. Then factor in sugary foods such as cereal, candy, ice cream etc. and you have a nice hyperglycemic kid. Dont forget fast food. They sit in front of the TV, sit in ZOG schools, and get no outdoor activity.

Adults drive everywhere, sit on their asses at work, and eat fast food. They get no excercise due to time constraints, fatigue from work, or laziness.

A large problem that fat people have is they prefer the taste of flavorful additives over real food. A good example would be a salad. I can eat a salad without any dressing and find it tastes great whereas fat people will eat a salad because it’s “good for them” but drown it in a creamy dressing that’s loaded with fat. They’ll add mayonnaise to hamburgers, sour cream to a baked potato, cottage cheese to a bowl of fruit and all kinds of sauces to main entrées.

Whether it's biological or mental, obesity is still the fault of these people themselves. Seems like every fuckin' whining complaint we hear today is either "society's" fault or "Nature's" fault. Just like niggers blame Whitey for every one of their problems, bar none, it seems it's now become fashionable for anyone with any kind of problem - whether it be social, mental, or physical - to either blame it on societal discrimination, or, on some "biological" condition beyond their control. This is bullshit. Don't be suing Mickey D's 'cause you're fat, or Philip Morris 'cause Snookums died of lung cancer - take some responsibilty into your own life and quit playin' this candy-ass game of passing the buck. Hey, life is harsh - but if you deal with the problems that confront you as you make your little sojourn by resorting to overeating, drug or alcohol abuse, criminal behavior, etc. and it eventually comes back to bite you in the ass.....hey, you have nobody but yourself to blame.

Thyroid conditions are very real, both humans and animals can get them. There are medications that treat these conditions. My own sister has a thyroid problem.

As far as the rest goes, the medical explanation is basically this :

There is no such thing as inherited obesity, although you may be more genetically prone to gaining weight than other people. In the end, it boils down to lifestyle. Exercise, eating habits. The reason you see fat families is not genetic, but the fact that the kids have adopted the parents' poor eating patterns.

Most people are fat today because they are eating candle wax.


They fry their chicken in it, they fry thier donuts in it, they fry their potatos in it, they use it as griddle grease for their hamburgers, they slather their cakes in candle wax.

Proctor & Gamble were looking for a cheap way to make candle wax instead of using the old way of using beef tallow. They came up with a substitute by puting vegatable oil in a pressurized vat made of nickel and reacting it with hydrogen gas. The stuff looks like plastic molocules under a microscope.

You yourself probably ate candle wax today, its just called a different name, like Oleo, Crisco and Hydrogenated Vegatable Oil.

Before this stuff was added to the american diet prior to war rationing in WWII as a substiture for pig lard, there was virtually no heart attacks, no strokes, no obesity.


The company that makes Oreo's is so scared of the coming exposé and lawsuits that it has pledged to remove candle wax from Oreo's products in 5 years time.

fat people will eat a salad because it’s “good for them” but drown it in a creamy dressing that’s loaded with fat. They’ll add mayonnaise to hamburgers, sour cream to a baked potato, cottage cheese to a bowl of fruit and all kinds of sauces to main entrées.

All as advocated by guru Dr. Atkins, no? Are you suggesting that's why his corpse was obese? Were they lying when they said he gained all that weight after he dropped dead?

Whether it's biological or mental, obesity is still the fault of these people themselves. Seems like every fuckin' whining complaint we hear today is either "society's" fault or "Nature's" fault. Just like niggers blame Whitey for every one of their problems, bar none, it seems it's now become fashionable for anyone with any kind of problem - whether it be social, mental, or physical - to either blame it on societal discrimination, or, on some "biological" condition beyond their control. This is bullshit. Don't be suing Mickey D's 'cause you're fat, or Philip Morris 'cause Snookums died of lung cancer - take some responsibilty into your own life and quit playin' this candy-ass game of passing the buck. Hey, life is harsh - but if you deal with the problems that confront you as you make your little sojourn by resorting to overeating, drug or alcohol abuse, criminal behavior, etc. and it eventually comes back to bite you in the ass.....hey, you have nobody but yourself to blame. I think you about summed up everything that I was thinking on this one. Everyone today that has fucked up their lives feels that they gotten a "raw deal" when all they have to do is look in the mirror to find the reason for their being fucked up. The "entitlement" attitude dominates everything, nobody wants to sacrifice for something they want or need, hence fat asses want to be thin whilst they stuff their gobs with twinkies and greasey fries etc.
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It is interesting how it is almost impossible to find restaurants that serve healthy and nutritious meals, if one listens to the moaning of all the fatties one would think that there would be a huge demand for such eateries, nada perhaps a few hippies in California run the odd restaurant that serves inedible guru food, but other wise the junk food joints seem to continue popping up every where.

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All as advocated by guru Dr. Atkins, no? Are you suggesting that's why his corpse was obese? Were they lying when they said he gained all that weight after he dropped dead?
The Adkins diet consists of eating meat only.

The Adkins diet consists of eating meat only.

You sure?

Curse you, Robert Atkins!

Your diet has made my life a living carbohydrate-free hell. No fruit, no muffins, no bagels and certainly no devil's food cake. How does anyone survive the induction phase of this diet without wantonly attacking every passing pastry cart in his path?

I've been on it only a week, and I have yet to stay on the protein-and-green-vegetables wagon for more than a day or two at a time. Nevertheless, I soldier on in search of lighter weight.

Breakfasts are easy. Bacon and eggs, followed the next day by more bacon and eggs (maybe scrambled this time) and then, for variety, sausages and eggs. One morning I was so desperate for change I had coffee and broccoli for breakfast. That's no way to live.

Lunch on the run is tougher. Had I the time and inclination, I could sit down with a tasty filet, a small side salad with Bleu cheese dressing and maybe some baby asparagus spears dressed in a butter sauce with my glass of Evian. Most days, however it has to be "grab 'n' go," and therein lies the problem.

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I am... a fat person...
Well I'm not horrendously fat but I do weigh more than I should :p

I eat 1-2 meals a day, can't eat breakfast because it makes me sick for the rest of the day. I do snack, but in place of a meal, not in addition. I walk or run 2-3 miles a day. I work 40-50 hours a week depending on the week. I don't take drugs to lose weight, I don't go on endless fad diets that mess with your metabolic system and in the end make it 10 times harder to lose weight. I am happy with my body, I have spinal damage and severe arthritis that makes it extremely difficult to do any excessive type of excercising so I stick with my daily walk/run.
Does this mean I am a horrible person who should be banished to the depths of hell because I am not perfect? If so, let me know and I'll buy an air conditioner for my stay down there :p

There are people who are obese who have no one to blame but themselves, but there are a few exceptions: injuries that prevent excercise, exsisting medical conditions that cause changes in your metabolic rate, medicines that cause rapid weight gain, etc etc etc. But if you sit on your ass all day and do nothing but stuff your face there is no excuse and you can blame no one but yourself.

We didn't have chronic obesity and mental illness prior to multiculturalism. Enforced diversity is state sponsored terrorism on everyone involved.Actually mental illness has always existed. But in the old times it was often mistaken for demon posession. The mind is no different than the rest of the body. It breaks.

Chronic obesity on a large scale is certainly new. But there have always been chronically overwieght people. Take a look at some of the old artwork.

I don't know why you're blaming legitimate human conditions on multiculturalism.

Everyone look up the term "Reubenesque". Do some research people. Don't fall into the media trap that you say you are fighting against. Only in the last 60 years or so when modeling became extremely popular did being stick thing become acceptable. Not only is it unhealthy to weigh 20-30 pound underweight, it also looks disgusting. Who wants to date a skeleton or a pre-pubescent teenager? There are many factors that add into obesity, and if you are smart enough to find them out bravo for you. Find the cure for cancer next.

Everyone look up the term "Reubenesque". Do some research people. Don't fall into the media trap that you say you are fighting against. Only in the last 60 years or so when modeling became extremely popular did being stick thing become acceptable. Not only is it unhealthy to weigh 20-30 pound underweight, it also looks disgusting. Who wants to date a skeleton or a pre-pubescent teenager? There are many factors that add into obesity, and if you are smart enough to find them out bravo for you. Find the cure for cancer next.Hey, I know what "Reubenesque" is. I didn't know anybody was talking beenpole skinny as the ideal. Fatso and Fatty means friggin grotesque tripple chins, bouncing thighs, massive buttoxes, sweaty warthogs, and farting porkers! I can stand a little of the old "Reubenesque" - a little "cushion for the pushin" and all that, Rape of Sabine Women etc. The thread was about "Fatsos" and not about bangin Karen (anorexic skelator) Carpenter...damn. :confused:

Sugar will make you real fat, real fast.
Not if you're a tweeker. :-D

99.9% mental.

One secret to staying thin is to just skip meals. How often do these fatties ever skip a meal... hell they add loads of snack time into their day!! (yes skipping meals is bad for your nutrition, but who the fuck wants to live to be old enough for a nursing home... as if there will be nursing homes in Brown AmeriKwa when most of us reach that age!)

Its very true, I can maintain a slim figure by eating whatever for half the week and then nothing for the other half.

It's also a good idea to teach your body to function without food anyway.

Quick tip: to avoid an attack of late-night munchies: drink a glass of water before going to bed.

Some of my fat relatives are in the habit of actually eating food in bed before going to sleep. Disgusting and since no physical activity follows this it probably helps to add on some pounds

Funny you should mention this-this is a method sumo wrestlers use to increase their size.

Despite their obesity, sumo wrestlers are in good shape(low cholesterol and blood pressure despite their fat content) and tend to live long. They excercise and eat mostly fish, veggies, and brown rice.

Brown rice tastes better, is very filling, and is healthier.

Next time you eat Chink food, watch what happens to the people who eat white(fried or not) rice-they'be hungry again in 20 minutes.

If you eat the same portion with the same amount of brown rice, you won't feel hungry again for awhile, since the brown rice retains its hull, it takes much longer to digest.

White rice is white because its stripped and polished so it will cook faster. Its very unhealthy.

No one factors beverages into their diets. Sugar will make you real fat, real fast. Lots of little porker kids running around because they always drink soda. The juices kids get is also sugar-loaded. Then factor in sugary foods such as cereal, candy, ice cream etc. and you have a nice hyperglycemic kid. Dont forget fast food. They sit in front of the TV, sit in ZOG schools, and get no outdoor activity.

Adults drive everywhere, sit on their asses at work, and eat fast food. They get no excercise due to time constraints, fatigue from work, or laziness.

I drink probably six cans of pop a day (sometimes a few bottles of gatorade replace a few cans of pop). I don't eat the healthiest, and I am not the most active. However, I am not a big fan of cakes and cake-like stuff. In addition to that, even though I do not eat very healthy, I don't eat a lot at all. If I feel depressed, then I don't eat much. I think the biggest factor though in me being extremely skinny is a high metabolism. I will say this though. If I ever start gaining a ton of weight (fat weight), then as soon as it starts, I will do what it takes to stop it and remove what I have gained. I started gaining a small belly (large for me, but probably like an average American these days) a few months ago. As soon as I noticed that, I did far more physical activity and it was gone in no time. Though.. My future career will make me quite muscular and will prevent me from gaining any belly for many years. That is for sure.

Hey, I know what "Reubenesque" is. I didn't know anybody was talking beenpole skinny as the ideal. Fatso and Fatty means friggin grotesque tripple chins, bouncing thighs, massive buttoxes, sweaty warthogs, and farting porkers! I can stand a little of the old "Reubenesque" - a little "cushion for the pushin" and all that, Rape of Sabine Women etc. The thread was about "Fatsos" and not about bangin Karen (anorexic skelator) Carpenter...damn.

I was being facetious, but it came out a little too serious. And kudos to you. 99% of people I've talked to don't know what Reubenesque is...

Anyways.. the point I was trying to make was the other extreme is also unattractive. Just stay within a healthy range whatever way you may go. If you can't walk because you trip on the flabs hanging off your knees you have a big problem. If you can see your bones through your skin you also have a problem. I know being huge can be grotesque but it's also disconcerting to see men calling size 10 women fat.

Part of the problem is that the majority of people don't make their own meals anymore. You can buy everything prepackaged and precooked (or as I like to call it, pre-chewed :eek: ).. just throw it in a microwave or buy it from restaurant. Buy fresh meats, fruits, and vegatables from the grocery store instead of canned. What an idea. Actually cook something for yourself... :rolleyes: I'm not saying you have to cut out everything that's premade.. just don't use it for every meal. You'll cut calories, un-needed preservatives, sodium, carbs, fat grams, etc etc etc.

I was being facetious, but it came out a little too serious. And kudos to you. 99% of people I've talked to don't know what Reubenesque is...

Anyways.. the point I was trying to make was the other extreme is also unattractive. Just stay within a healthy range whatever way you may go. If you can't walk because you trip on the flabs hanging off your knees you have a big problem. If you can see your bones through your skin you also have a problem. I know being huge can be grotesque but it's also disconcerting to see men calling size 10 women fat.

Part of the problem is that the majority of people don't make their own meals anymore. You can buy everything prepackaged and precooked (or as I like to call it, pre-chewed :eek: ).. just throw it in a microwave or buy it from restaurant. Buy fresh meats, fruits, and vegatables from the grocery store instead of canned. What an idea. Actually cook something for yourself... :rolleyes: I'm not saying you have to cut out everything that's premade.. just don't use it for every meal. You'll cut calories, un-needed preservatives, sodium, carbs, fat grams, etc etc etc.I couldn't agree with you more. Laziness in preparing food is another big factor in the whole scheme. "Laziness" seems to be the common factor in all things involving obesity.

Like I said before: In the end, it always traces back to the kikes. Everything that is wrong with the Western world is the kikes fault. Remember that.

My $0.02: Feminism and women. Due to feminism women either don't know how to cook and or don't want to cook. So, instead they buy fattening and high sugared foods to replace real home cooked meals for their kids. I see it all the time. That and people in general don't get any exercise.

Due to feminism women either don't know how to cook and or don't want to cook. So, instead they buy fattening and high sugared foods to replace real home cooked meals for their kids. I see it all the time. That and people in general don't get any exercise.

Quite true; the Feminist Movement has been detrimental to the nuclear family. What strikes me about my friends is how in the dark they are when it comes to recognizing just how damaging this whole thing has been. What good did it accomplish anyway? Both men and women have lost their honor. Nowadays it is nearly impossible to find an attractive lifelong mate: one who has not been castrated or rendered commitment - shy by these man eating monsters. The fact is that women are no longer women. All they care about is putting on a man's suit. Whatever happened to family? Fertility? And cooking, for God's sake!?

My $0.02: Feminism and women. Due to feminism women either don't know how to cook and or don't want to cook. So, instead they buy fattening and high sugared foods to replace real home cooked meals for their kids. I see it all the time. That and people in general don't get any exercise.

Don't get me started on those damn feminists lol. I know a few women who don't even know how to make mac & cheese out of a friggen box... that is pretty sad... I learned how to cook when I was 7. Give me a tube of toothpaste and a pickle and I could somehow make an edible meal out of it lol.

Don't get me started on those damn feminists lol. I know a few women who don't even know how to make mac & cheese out of a friggen box... that is pretty sad... I learned how to cook when I was 7. Give me a tube of toothpaste and a pickle and I could somehow make an edible meal out of it lol.
I'd be satisfied when some1 would take my strawberry tipped vanilla ice cream cone and make it into a Jack-in-the-box

I'd be satisfied when some1 would take my strawberry tipped vanilla ice cream cone and make it into a Jack-in-the-box

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Eating 2 meals a day will tank your metabolism real fast. People are better off eating 5 small meals a day a few hours apart.

Is there really any truth to it when obese people say that they are fat because they have some sort of thyroid condition or what ever?

I can not imagine that some one can have such a good metabolism that a leaf of lettuce would make them gain 20 pounds, I mean at some stage those fat asses needed some kind of major fuel to grow from, didn’t they?

Too many times have I seen gargantuan fatsos driving or rolling around with 2 liter cokes, and has anybody seen how they always seem to have slop stuck in their faces. I am prone to believe that they really don’t exercise much and that they secretly gorge them selves.

And how about those huge porkers who claim they had several babies, I don't buy that for a second either, they just felt secure in their marriage and let themselves go.

I see that I'm a johnny-come-lately to this thread. I've looked over the responses and they are mostly true and common-sensical insights based on observations of obese people. Obesity is a complex disease though, and deserves to be treated as such.

A few points:

Children and adults get obese differently. Adipose tissue in children is augmented by hyperplasia or cell splitting and in adults by hypertrophy or cell growth. The reason this is important is because there is a fair amount of competition that takes place in the body between adipose tissue (fat) and other tissues for insulin. Having more fat cells tips the balance off kilter in favor of future fat deposition because the adipose tissue will have the "advantage" of more insulin receptors. Also, once you have a fat cell in your body it is there for life unless you have it removed by liposuction. The cell can be atrophied (shrunk) by tapping fat stores but it will always remain, along with its receptors for insulin. The point to take from all this is if you are a parent, do not allow your children to become obese if you can help it. Otherwise you are sentencing them to a lifetime battle with their weight.

Someone who is obese as a child will have a metabolic set point that tries to maintain an overweight body in the face of weight-reduction efforts as an adult. Your body can be quite efficient when it wants to be and those who persons who have been obese as children and are trying to lose weight as adults often have to adopt Very Low Calorie Diets (VLCD's) ie.. less than 1,000 Cal per day, while engaging in vigorous exercise in order to drop the weight. Try eating 800 calories a day for just a couple of days and you'll see the drastic measures that are often needed and are sometimes necessary for months and years continuously in order to reach a normal weight.

There is a genetic predisposition to obesity. This is not equivalent to being "born to be fat." It's a dispostion just like the genetic disposition to be an alcoholic. Ever see people who can eat like pigs, never exercise and still stay at a normal or near-normal weight? Those people are not "normal." Those people would've died off at earlier points in our evolution due to their inability to store fat and maintain their bodies during periods of famine. Those with the predispostion to be obese are the ones that would've survived as their metabolisms were efficient and stored fat during periods of plenty and burned it slow during periods of famine. Food being so readily available in modern western society bodes very badly for those with an efficient metabolism and selects for those "walking furnaces" instead. If this trend continues then our genetics will eventually alter to select for the "walking furnace model."

There's much more to obesity as well including environmental and psychological factors but it's too wide (pardon the pun) a topic to be resolved completely in a forum thread. The available information fills volumes. I would suggest further research by those that are interested beyond what's covered here. A good place to start would be the Journal of Obesity.

My $0.02 ;)

If you want a prime example of not enough work turning you fat you should look at the guy who is leading the BNP. He used to be thin but now he has too many flunkys and has gotten really fat. He should go back to working on the farm before people mistake him for a piggy!