Notice how nationalvanguard no longer runs photos of Roger Williams or Joe Mack on the website? Notice how they have covered up the wagon burning Artie Wheeler story? Notice how Chris (the snitch) Evans now accuses Anthony Pierpont of being non-white? That is because the NA is full of brown people like Victor Max (Andre Cimu) and others. The latest strategy is to attack Panzerfaust instead of cleaning up their own house. Like the Titanic, the sinking NA ship full of muds and rats needs a song for the band to play.

Here is the new National Alliance theme song, to be available at Ratsistance Records by Christmas:




BROWNTOWN


If your hate group is broke
Because the white race won’t pay
Well, you can always go
Browntown

If white “lemmings” are laughing
and just in the way
Well, you can always recruit
In Browntown

With swarthy coordinators and some hip hop techno music
Chinese wives and negro lesbos making me and you sick
But it’s okay
Forget all your principals and just cash the checks
Take the William Pierce Legacy and make it a wreck and go
Browntown!
Things will be great in old
Browntown!
The light bill can’t wait so go
Browntown!
Make it all better for
Jews


But that’s just the way
Of Gliebe’s brand new NA
We goin’ over to
Browntown

Strom is pissy and prissy and
we think he’s half gay
He’s takin us to
Browntown

Indians ain’t “wagon burners,” just “extraordinary”
Norm at Zog, and Strom and Mueller are good Nazi fairies
But it’s okay
Forget all your principals and just cash the checks
Take the William Pierce Legacy and make it a wreck and go
Browntown!
Things will be great in old
Browntown!
The light bill can’t wait so go
Browntown!
Make it all better for
Jews

Browntown
Browntown


Send us your dues
And we will fight off the Jews
Unless they join us too,
In Browntown

The NA is here for
all those injuns and queers
buying our Swastika boots
In Browntown

Listen to Strom spinning trying to make the red man half white
Massollini, Williams and the Ritz’s think he’s half right
But it’s okay
Forget all your principals and just cash the checks
Take the William Pierce Legacy and make it a wreck and go
Browntown!
Things will be great in old
Browntown!
The light bill can’t wait so go
Browntown!
Make it all better for
Jews


Gliebe likes
to bend over boys
And show them
he’s “the man” in
Browntown

He thinks
about anal sex
every minute he can
he calls it “goin to
Browntown”

What a fuckin’ freak show full of low-life scum and losers
drug-addicted faggots, Jews and Pringle and his boozers
But it’s okay
Forget all your principals and just cash the checks
Take the William Pierce Legacy and make it a wreck and go
Browntown!
Things will be great in old
Browntown!
The light bill can’t wait so go
Browntown!
Make it all better for
Jews

Send us your dues
And we will fight off the Jews
Unless they join us too,
In Browntown


LOL

Maybe Strom should spend more time polishing his ranks instead of polishing his classic car collection?

Erich GleeBee should know that I am a Uniter and not a Divider!

But you sir, Erich GleeBee have the boorish manner of a Yaley.

I agree. How has it been “productive” for the thirty year legacy of a brilliant PhD to have been squandered by a punch drunk retard and his cronies in less than a year?

How is it “productive” for racially aware White people to continue to send monthly dues to an organization that is infested with informants, non-White deviants and trigger happy thugs?

How has it been productive to go from being the most respected, professional nationalist organization on the face of the earth to a practically broke laughing stock full of felons, freaks and losers?

Ask the wife or mother of the kid who blew his brains out in Dr. Pierce’s house a week before the leadership conference last October. Ask Teresa Doles how any of this has been “productive.”

How has it been “productive” for decent, educated men with advanced degrees and life-long dedication to participate in this organization? Lets ask: Dr. Robert DeMarais, Dr. Robert McCorkle, Victor Gerhard, Billy Roper, Dave Sims, Fred Streed, Catherine Molz, Timothy Scott, Scott Speidel, Jeff Cotton or literally hundreds of other decent, dedicated racial activists who watched part of their life’s work die with William Pierce this year?

Put your heart and soul into something for most of your adult life. Donate your time and energy and earnings to something you thought was more important than your life or your family’s comfort and then learn that it all ended up being wasted by “trusted men“ of your own race.

Then turn up your nose at some biting humor like a pissy school marm and hiss, “How is this productive?”

Please, tell us. How is it productive to allow 30 years of work, 30 years of organization building, 30 fucking years and millions of White dollars to be squandered by an egotistical band of unemployable human garbage trying to maintain their substantial salaries by claiming all criticism is just “unproductive” gossip or rumor?

Yes, Eric, TELL US. We want to know.

How has this been in any way “productive.”

Now THAT was some almost Stromesque spin doctoring there, brother Erik. You claim not one of the former NA staffers mentioned has ever complained about being screwed by the current leadership. Where the fuck have you been? There have been harsh, often brutal letters of condemnation written both publicly and privately by most, if not every one of these people.

Of course, to hear you tell it, anyone who complains or criticizes is just “crying and whining” over “spilt milk.” Which, of course, is “not productive.”

After reading your other posts to this new board, it has become obvious that you, ErikD, are a shill for the new NA. You want to gloss over the incompetence and corruption of the scumbags still in power.

Now why would you want to do something like that?

Probably because you have been assigned this job in the NA’s new Internet Response Unit. Which means you are attempting to “lower the volume” of criticism. Hoping to keep the dues-payments coming and mail order business going.

Interesting strategy you guys have. If Kevin Strom can’t threaten the ISP into removing criticism of the NA, your job is to tell critics to “quit whining” about the “old news.” Like some queer coordinator clapping his hands and blowing a whistle, shrieking “C’mon people, lets move on.”

We will “move on” when the problems have been corrected.

Since you and your ilk are trying to deny or cover up criticism of the National Alliance from legitimate, educated and highly competent racial activists who were in a position to know what was going on, it seems appropriate to educate the new readers of this forum with the facts. Lets turn on the way back machine to 16 months ago, five days after the death of William Pierce. Lets permit the forum readers to review the now-prophetic words of former NA Chief of Staff and lead counsel, attorney Victor Gerhard.


From: Victor Gerhard [mailto:condor@stargate.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Alliance and Reality

Dear (DELETED)

I just got a letter from Fred, you know, the groundskeeper who never
takes his dirty hat off, telling me that if I set foot on Alliance property
he'll have me arrested. I sent a letter back terminating my membership in the
Alliance. Let me review the record about my involvement in the wonderful
Alliance:

I started out buying several hundred dollars worth of books. I joined
with a dues rate of $25 which I soon had up to $50. Additional donations at
leadership conferences and meetings totaled at least another $1000.
I went to another leadership conference and Dr. Pierce stood up and lied
to everyone present, "If we don't get a staff manager to handle the day to
day running of the Alliance, the Alliance will cease to exist." As I said, a
blatant lie, but I fell for it. I gave up a high-paying job, and probably
any chance of similar employment. I lost ALL my friends. I am alienated
from most of my family and relatives

I gave up several deals to buy lucrative investment properties. What was
money compared to saving the White race? Sucker.

Soon after getting to the Alliance, there was another leadership conference.
Dr. Pierce lied again, saying I was going to run the Alliance day-to-day.
When I tried to do just that, when I tried to correct the enormous number
of problems and mistakes present at the Alliance, the unbelievable
mismanagement, I was immediately slapped down. In fact, I had no
authority whatsoever - I had been tricked and used.

I was soon noticing that instead of being a 'revolutionary organization'
the Alliance was two badly run businesses and a membership con-game. The
amount of talent wasted and driven from the movement, and the vast sums of money
wasted was staggering. Did you know Pierce siphoned off all the cash
into his pocket? Or that Erich did no work and was driving Resistance into
the ground? Or that the receptionist Evelyn did no work, but make twice what
I did? But those two were loyal, not to the White Race, not to the
Alliance, but to Pierce. And that is all that mattered. Toadies, lickspittles and
ass-kissers were who Pierce liked; he was deathly afraid of strong White
men. I sacrificed money, and yet Pierce never hesitated to suck up to
people who had money, they were more important than me, since now I had
none, and Pierce and all his lackeys grabbed all the money they could
get.

Just trying to correct a problem set off alarm bells - I was trying to
seize power, I was disloyal. Very quickly Pierce began to spy on me, as he
spied on most workers. Erich and Meyers would call, both pretending to be at
odds, trying to bounce me back and forth between them. They would also
pretend to be at odds with Pierce. The trick was that they all were in
it together, and would talk several times a day. They were sent, as Pierce
put it, to "pick my brain," find out what I was thinking, what was I
planning.

That long white piece of shit couldn't walk up the stairs and just talk
to me. I was instantly a threat that had to be neutralized. Notice, Erich
and Meyers both knew what working with Pierce was like, which is why both
NEVER would come to work there. They both knew how bad conditions were and I
talked to both before I went down there. Neither warned me - my
comrades.

My reward for my sacrifice was to be treated like scum. Pierce fawns
over people who come to meet him, but the minute you agree to work for him he
considers you dirt, not fit to lick his shoes.

So for telling Pierce to leave the day-to-day to me, for telling Evelyn
to work on Free Speech that was 6 months behind, and for telling Pierce that
the Alliance was set up wrong if he ever died, he tried to fire me, but I
quit first. When people asked where I went, Pierce stood in front of the
leadership conference and said I had 'health problems.' Do you get it?
This is where the 'past problems' that I have come from. Pierce spread
lies about me, just as he spreads lies about everyone that quits in disgust.
He has to - damage control. He ruined my reputation without a second
thought.

I won't get into his mistreatment of Byron, except to note that after he
lured Byron here to work in the warehouse, and as Byron was literally
driving the U-Haul up the drive, he wanted to switch the promised house
on him. He was going to send Byron, Emily (pregnant), and Forrest off to
that orange house on the of 55 and 219, a hole. Why? Because he was working
on this chick that he had almost convinced to move to headquarters, he
wanted to put her right next to him and his wife, so he could do them both. I
spoke to this lady later, she said Pierce made her every promise under
the sun, but she started to pick up on the fact that he just wanted to screw
her. Luckily she was old enough to have experience with human filth.

Now for a bit more about this great man. Another lie stated to the whole
Alliance - "I fired Sam van Rensburg because I couldn't trust him
anymore."

I swear, I must have been the only one to notice his caveat, "I DIDN'T
fire him because of moral misbehavior." Get it? Rensburg was using his
position as membership coordinator to RAPE, let me repeat that, RAPE, female
Alliance members and prospective members. Dr. Pierce, as I found out from his own
lips, didn't fire him. Pierce knew what was going on - he was told
numerous times about several incidents but did nothing, except damage control,
"See if you can keep her from going to the police." See, Rensburg was a
rapist, which made Pierce happy because once he knew a man's weakness he could
manipulate him. Rensburg fled when threatened by a furious father. Why
did Pierce stress there was no firing for MORAL reasons? Because using the
Alliance to get women was Pierce's way of operating also - he never quite
raped someone, but his actions were improper on several occasions - and I
spoke to the women, or should I say, girls. The man was a sexual
pervert - Sevidy was tossed because a) she got in the way of his pressure-filled
pursuit of new female staff members, and b) she wouldn't agree to do a
threesome. I'm not making this up. Great man.

I saw him time and time again put his pursuit of sex ahead of the
Alliance, to the detriment of the Alliance. Not to mention the women he chased
off. The minute he learned email he was writing dirty letters to every women
he could find. His 12 hour days - spent looking for porn, I caught him
plenty of times, just like his pal Rensburg.

Let me tell you, the most disgusting and revolting stories about Pierce
and his lust, incompetence, abuse of Whites, and damage to the White race I
am not going to repeat here. I keep the worst stuff in reserve. But the
list is almost endless.

(END OF EXCERPT)

Gerhard’s complete letter is too large for the forum to accept. He too, has, “moved on” like you say, Erik. The point is that those who have associated with the NA have learned a hard lesson. The point is that those who are still associated with and running the NA have not. And finally, the point is that you and your ilk do not want anyone to realize these truths until the NA has managed to relieve them of thousands of dollars and years of their time.

Keep up the good work.

I'd heard Victor Gerhard's message quoted before, but not to that length or with that detail.

Vic wrote that post while he was still angry over being fired by Dr. Pierce for damaging property belonging to Evelyn Hill.

Evelyn and Victor didn't get along. Victor's statement that Evelyn didn't do any work is not correct. She did work, quite a bit, on getting Dr. Pierce's ADV comments into Free Speech. I was the proofreader for Free Speech, but Evelyn did the technical part of getting the magazine published online and off to the printing company that made the paper copy.

But Evelyn has - or had - an abrasive personality. She was loud and often critical of other staff members, and I can well imagine that Victor got a sample or two of the roughness of her manner.

Victor, in return, has a darker side to his personality. Normally, he's an affable, friendly sort of fellow, very pleasant to talk to and be with. But on occasion his temper gets the better of him, and he doesn't have as much self-restraint as some other people do.

Evelyn and Marta Streed had a confrontation, with Dr. Pierce having to choose between them, and Evelyn was reassigned to duties away from NA-HQ. Shortly after that, Victor had one of his more violent flare-ups. He apparently attacked some boxes of items belonging to Evelyn Hill, which she had not been able to take with her at first when she moved to California. I saw the damage to the boxes. Vic must have either kicked them hard, or used some hard object to strike them, repeatedly.

Dr. Pierce fired Vic very soon thereafter, and the reason given for the firing was the damage to the boxes and to their contents.

I don't doubt that Vic had made many sacrifices in order to join the National Alliance. I don't doubt, either, that Vic had hoped and intended to use the rest of his life serving his race. But he should have been up-front about his occasional lapses of good temper, and he should not have done vandalism to another person's property. It was just too much to expect that Dr. Pierce would overlook an act as reckless as that.

Now, as to Dr. Pierce's moral character. It is true that he was promiscuous enough to be described as a womanizer. He did like to look at women. He would and did disregard his wife's feelings to the point of committing adultery. This was his biggest personal flaw, and making good for that flaw required that I devote much of my own time to being Sevdalina's chauffeur and to mediating between the Pierces as they negotiated the end of their marriage.

Dr. Pierce was a great man, but he wasn't always a morally good one. In one respect, he was a rascal. But he was a patriotic rascal, and his devotion to our race was genuine. His achievements, both in the literature that he created and that he preserved, as well as in turning to racial nationalism those of us who, but for him, would still be trendy liberals, are unquestionably large and meritorious. He did have his personal failings.

You people on this board do make me laugh, well... cry really. I really makes me wonder which side you are all on. It seems that all you ever do is slag off the National Alliance. What's going on? I bet the Jews are rubbing their hands and patting themselves on the back when they read messages like yours putting the NA down.

That is infact if you are not Jews or one of their lackies that is.

Yours,

A supporter and member of the National Alliance in England, or Jewnited Kingdom to you.

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Gerhard’s complete letter is too large for the forum to accept. He too, has, “moved on” like you say, Erik. The point is that those who have associated with the NA have learned a hard lesson. The point is that those who are still associated with and running the NA have not. And finally, the point is that you and your ilk do not want anyone to realize these truths until the NA has managed to relieve them of thousands of dollars and years of their time.Keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]



I spent four years in the NA and in retrospect it was a sham and a scam. I met Dr. Pierce at the 1999 leadership conference and I did not like him personally. I always liked his broadcasts but I always said he would be the last person I would invite home to dinner. I remember he had just purchased Resistance records for $250k. He purchased it with his life savings he said. I thought at the time this white revolutionary leader job must pay pretty good. If what Victor said is true, and I suspect it is, the "great man's" "deeds" need to be put in a new perspective. Screw the NA shills, they are either out of work bums, screw-ups, pussies or a combination of all three. I met very few normal people during my membership. I had the feeling that Pierce always considered himself some great judge of men. Pierce measured men against himself, a person he was quite impressed with. After all he was a "chennious". The rest of us Joe six packs and regular guys could hardly pass the entrance examination to kindergarten. Looking at the "men" he valued so highly, a monosyllabic numbskull and a pickle smooching hermaphrodite, I'd have to say he was a terrible judge of men. Maybe he was actually a good judge of men as Victor has suggested. My local unit coordinator while an affable fellow was not the brightest crayon in the box. Nobody ever knew what went on there deep it the hills. I never could see where my money went. He would always hire these staffers and then a few months later they would disappear. The 400-acre compound was not a "White Zion" as Pierce once suggested but a Dr. Pierce Ponderosa. In reality, wasn't Pierce himself the ultimate loudmouth. He would tell others to go put there ass on the line and endanger the well being of their families and in the same breath tell you don't expect any help from me if you get in trouble carrying out my orders. This was even codified in the handbook. Stay the fuck out of my foxhole you old geezer. He liked to collect guns and take pictures of himself shooting but I would not want to count on a man like Pierce in a life and death situation. Wasn't Chuck Yeager the way Pierce viewed himself? Wasn't he pretty far from being Chuck Yeager? He was not even close.
I got burned once; I won't get burned twice.

You tell us. Perhaps you could start by telling us why the National Alliance membership application was re-written after Dr. Pierce's death. The explicit prohibitions against being a fag, a Jew, or having a non-White spouse or dependent were REMOVED from the application statement.

Why?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the ONLINE membership application did NOT change at all after Pierce's death. I remember it being that way for years.

I think the online application doesn't include what you want it to simply so it can be printed out easier (uses less paper, faster, etc.). The "What is the National Alliance?" booklet still has all these things in it.

MK

MikeK I AGREE,

PLEASE READ BELOW ABOUT THE APPLICATION:

Like I said in another thread about the folk on this forum:

"You people on this board do make me laugh, well... cry really. I really makes me wonder which side you are all on. It seems that all you ever do is slag off the National Alliance. What's going on? I bet the Jews are rubbing their hands together and patting themselves on the back when they read messages like yours putting the NA down.."

That is infact if you are not Jews or one of their lackies that is.

Yours,

A supporter and member of the National Alliance in England, or Jewnited Kingdom to you.


TO norcalnative1971 For His ORIGINAL POST,

A for the requirements for application. The letter for membership does say this and too my knowledge always has (your alleged Gliebes version). However, If you actually take the time to read "What is the National Alliance" which if you are serious about looking into an organisation, to find out what they stand for and what their policies are, you WILL notice that here (http://natvan.com/what-is-na/na7.html), under requirements for membership, which can be found under (http://natvan.com/what-is-na/) on the main page at www.natvan.com it clearly states the below text:


Eligibility: Any White person (a non-Jewish person of wholly European ancestry) of good character and at least 18 years of age who accepts as his own the goals of the National Alliance and who is willing to support the program described herein may apply for membership.

Ineligible persons: No homosexual or bisexual person, no person actively addicted to alcohol or to an illegal drug, no person with a non-White spouse or a non-White dependent, and, except in extraordinary circumstances, no person currently confined in a penal institution may be a member. (The National Alliance does not advocate any illegal activity and expects its members to conduct themselves accordingly.)


THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME

Alistair H. Fenner,
England.

STOP THE MADNESS, STOP BURYING YOURSELF UNDER THE JEWISH THUMB, THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE STARTED AND THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT!

Internet Insanity: Attacks on the National Alliance by Kevin Alfred Strom: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=84

Dealing With Criticism, by Erich Gliebe by Erich J. Gliebe: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=60

Staying the Course by Erich J. Gliebe: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=703

We Are Winning by Erich J. Gliebe: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1331

Taking Stock: 2004 by Kevin Alfred Strom: http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1577

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Augustus Sutter,

Nice observations. I met Dr. Pierce once and can say that even if you didn't like him or what went on you could've still dedicated yourself to WNism and used the NA as a medium. The liturature was superb and the ADV's were uncomparable in the 90's w/ WLP. I felt the same about many of the members but those members don't have to be what the NA was about. I used the liturature to inform people of the jews.

I gave Dr. Pierce a lot of cash once and didn't care what he did with it because I knew that the money was going to go for the good of the white race by Dr. Pierce using his resources to expose the jews... and if he used the money for ammo or pussy I didn't care. We are all soldiers, whether we agree with semantics or tactics, fighting the jew.

I am not a member of the new NA because I don't think the leadership is as dedicated as Dr. Pierce was and I don't think the charisma is there either that Dr. Pierce transmitted in the ADV's... those were powerful. It's all gone.

R.I.P. Dr. Pierce.