Could be useful to some in the WN movement from what I've seen:

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv

Disorder | Rating
Paranoid: Very High
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: High
Antisocial: High
Borderline: Very High
Histrionic: High
Narcissistic: Very High
Avoidant: Very High
Dependent: High
Obsessive-Compulsive: High

I answered all the questions honestly. If these are my results, then Bill White must be off the charts.

yeah I got "very high" on paraniod

Disorder | Rating
Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: Low
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

Antisemitic: Very High
Racist: Very High
Homophobic: Very High

Antisemitic: Very High
Racist: Very High
Homophobic: Very High

Ditto above but in the mean time:
Paranoid: Low
Schizoid:Moderate
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Low
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Moderate
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate

ErikD,

That is sound advice. The reason behind my high results is my complexion. I'm in my early twenties and for unknown reasons I started to come down with bad acne a year ago. I never had this severe of a problem in my teenage years, so I was very embarassed and ashamed of my condition. I had no control over it and I allowed it to get to me. I became very withdrawn and depressed. I avoided social contact as much as possible because I prayed my skin would clear up soon. This hasn't happened yet, but i've started to learn how to deal with it in a more positive way.

Thanks for starting a discussion on this topic. I think we need to help out others in our ranks deal with these sorts of issues. It's one of those topics most people are afraid to touch, but it's pretty obvious it's out there. The RAHOWA escapist fantasy is one of several of them floating around out there.




Here's my results:

Paranoid: Moderate
Schizoid: Moderate
Schizotypal: High
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Moderate
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

Right now I am getting professional help to assist me in dealing with my own psychological problems due to some very painful family issues from the past, so these scores aren't as high as they normally would have been. However, a couple years back, when I was in denial about the real sources of my anger and hatred, and a big proponent of the WCOTC's RaHoWa! philosophy, my scores would have been completely off the chart.

The reason I am posting this test and my results here is to draw attention to mental illness and to share a little bit of my own story in hopes of reaching some people in WN circles who may have similar problems.

The most dangerous thing I have noticed about extremist politics is that it often serves as an excuse for a disturbed person to unconsciously vent all anger or frustration they may feel onto a convenient external target, instead of focusing on other actual sources of the anger in the mind or emotions.

That is why so many people with family or psychological problems are attracted to extremist movements... because it allows them to displace their anger and frustration onto an external scapegoat and avoid the painful process of taking a closer look at their own life and problems. In psychology this is known as projection (or scapegoating)... and the sad fact is, people often do this completely unconsciously... without even being aware of it.

Now, there are going to be some people who respond... "Well, what about what the jews did, or the blacks did, etc...", and I am the first to admit that there are some legitimate things to be concerned about in this country, but that doesn't change the fact that very often people use these legitimate external concerns as a way to safely displace all of their internal anger, when in reality, they may have completely unrelated psychological or family issues that are the source of the majority of their anger and hate.

The presence of a scapegoat, whether guilty or innocent, often serves to blind a person to the true nature of their discontent, and hinders psychological growth. The more infractions the scapegoat is actually guilty of, the more dangerous, because it only serves to strengthen the conviction that the scapegoat is the source of all problems, and this can completely blind the angry person to any hidden causes of internal rage.

Before anyone continues to point fingers at scapegoats, they would be wise to take a long look in the mirror, and to reflect on their personal and especially family situation to see if there are any other sources of rage they may have been blinded to in their rush to judge others so vehemently. Often we may find a good portion of our anger, fear and hate to be directed towards our family or society, but it is certainly a lot easier and more acceptable to blame the scapegoat... the "other".

So, take the personality test... answer it honestly, and then look at your own life objectively and ask yourself... are you being even slightly (perhaps unconsciously) dishonest in blaming ALL of your and the countries problems on "the _______". Are there any sources of pain, anger and frustration in your life or past that you have not addressed and resolved?

How is your family life?

Is it functional or dysfunctional?

Are you a happy person?

For true growth to occur, we must stop blaming others ALL THE TIME, even if they have done some things wrong, and start addressing our own personal issues. It is only when you admit and address your own issues that you can become psychologically and spiritually healthy, and only then will you be able to accurately perceive the actions of others, and be able to criticize them accurately and justifiably.

This is why in the bible Christ said "remove the beam out of your own eye before you point to the splinter in your brothers eye". It is only when our own vision is clear that we can correctly perceive the faults of others. This is not just some nice-sounding jewish story... it is a psychological fact.

Take the test... answer it honestly... and reflect on your own life and situation, and ask yourself if the problems in this country really warrant getting so angry that you want to start mass-murdering people, or are you displacing anger as a result of family and/or psychological problems?

I can tell you that for many years I myself was doing just that, without even realizing it, because the most effective scapegoat in the world is the one that has done or is doing something wrong, and so allows us to avoid our fear of looking at ourselves and dealing with our own issues, angers, pains and fears. Don't be afraid to get professional help to deal with your issues... that's what the doctors are there for. You wouldn't hesitate to see a doctor if you had a splinter in your eye, so why hesitate to see one if you have a splinter in your mind, heart or psyche?

If you think you may need professional help... go get it. It will probably be the best thing you ever did for yourself.

The last thing I want to say is that, if this doesn't apply to you (or you don't want to admit it might), don't complain to me. I'm posting this here for those who need and want help to be happier people. This has nothing to do with race or politics, but everything to do with the psychological health of our people, and the fact is, White people suffer from mental illness just like every other race of people.

Hope this helps someone.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv

Yeah I know what acne is like being a teenager still, even though It has almost gone away. I would always hide and run away and worry every second if I looked "bad" or not. In school though It was like a "phase" everyone had to pass. I hope it goes away in a few years, acne is really an awful setback to making and meeting "friends".

Regarding mental instabilities in the White Nationalist movement, I agree that many have deep psychological problems. Most of the hardcore "racists" like the stereotypical ones you see yelling "Sieg Hail" in full Nazi uniforms really have aggresive, anti-social and dangerous unstable personalites. I mean alot of these people, you know the "freaks" in our movement probably are just attracted to WN because they want to blow off steam at Non-whites. That's one of reasons no one takes us seriously, the Jews portray us as "mentally defective hatemongers foaming at the mouth". This stereotype has some basis in fact though, if you look at the members at SF and elsewhere. As a kid I also had psychological problems, I went to a "shrink" for years. Even in high school and now in college I have a hard time making friends are "conforming" with the crowds if you will. I believe though that most serious racialists are different than most people, we don't fit "in" like others. Most people who fit in and are popular are mostly completly brainwashed "lemmings", who just follow the political line wherever ZOG leads them. I really think that White Nationalists are special in that regard, most of us probably never had any intentions in fitting in with society or becoming a slave to the "herd instinct". We should consider ourselves lucky, anyway who the fuck would want to fit into the degenerate, hedonistic, cosmopolitan society of today?

lets see my scores where

Paranoid:very high
Schiziod:very high
Schizotypal:moderate
Anti-social:moderate
Borderline:moderate
Histrionic:low
Narcissistic:high
Avoidant:very high
Dependent:moderate
Obessive-complusive:moderate




Wierd results, I certainly expected to get high on on "Schziod" and "Paraniod".

[QUOTE=ErikD]Western-Nationalist, you bring up some good points. That's the thing that's so tricky about extremist politics, is it's sometimes difficult to determine which came first, the chicken or the egg. Or, in this case, which came first, the feeling of not fitting in, or of gravitating towards extremist ideas?

This is a great question, but I would propse that the majority of "racialists' like us (not the crazy blowhards) never had any intention to "fit in" or conform to Worldview- ideological positions( Any evolutionary pyschologists here?). Even as a kid I always questioned everything, and was able to see the obvious slavish psycholoigcal behaviors of the masses. For the few and fortunate who could break away from the intense pyschological feeling to conform, life can be hard and unremitting. And when I mean "conform" I don't mean not getting to sit at the "popular" lunch table at high school, I am talking about more how people view the world and their own life and beleifs. I have spoken to many kids my age over the years, and they don't have well thought out political or social beleifs. For these type of people all that matters is the loudest most ubitqtous voice in society.They have never sat down and questioned their cherished beliefs, for them they have to "hold on" to the popular ideas of the age, like plastic gods. Most people just seem to highly be attracted and vunerable to propaganda consumption spread by the government. I really think humans have a evolutionary adaption that really makes people want to socially conform, in every way of life.

When I talk to people about White Nationalism they give the same old "conditioned" respones over and over again. For these people bigger everlasting ideas and identities mean nothing to these people. Superpersonal ideas and ideologies are anathema to them( it denies there "individuality"), they call it "megalomania" and they say "Whats the point'. These people (lemmings, the underman, slaves, the masses) have absolute no foresight or perspective into the future development of Civilization. They do knowing but to bow down to the nemes and popular atitudes of the day, even when these ideas are destroying them ( like whites now). I really think intelligence though, plays one of the defining roles, I can ganretee most people on sights like this have much higher Iq's than the average citizen. Even though I have a uncle who is extremely gifted he is unbeleiveabley a liberal "lemming". I would say that high intelligence is a nessacary factor, but not the only ingredeint indeterming your how you develop your chosen beliefs. I also wouldn't concpetionlize White Nationalism as extremism-at least not me. I understand alot of people in the movement or militaristic socially castigated morons, but the quality WN's have an absolute rock solid ideology and justification. We should feel no reason to be put off as "lunatics" by society, we have the moral highground over everyone. So I would have to say that most fringe political ideas and new human developmental ideas come about do to inherent brain structures of certain people( what is it in the mind that decides how a person conceptelizes the world?). People with high intelligence and inherent psychological brain structures are the ones who come up with original, creative, and "different" ideas and trains of thought. So extreme and outermainstream ideas have always been a part our history, abiet only certain people are capable of true groundbreaking revolutionary ideas. And the political concpet of White Nationalism is a truly revolutionary idea that will save whats left of Western civilization. We, the "outcats", "social rejects", and "unpopular" are capable of bringing White Nationalism to life, not the masses.

You all sound like a bunch of weak sissys.

You are buying into the jew's psycho-babble.

Let me tell you the truth.

Sure.........we all have problems..........life is full of problems.....so what!

The jew will make you think that you have some sort of mental illness......and he says that this is the reason why people join so-called anti-social hate groups.

This is pure bullshit.

We are here..........in a White Racist Website Forum..........not because we have paranoid personalities........we are here because we are living in "insane times".

And we are feeling the "natural anger and stress" from living in a fucked-up world.

The niggers are getting away with murder...........our women are fucking the beasts and spitting-out halfbreed mulattoes by the millions......and the jew abortionists are killing 3 million White babies every year........the mexicans are giving us the finger as they walk across the Rio Grande River, while they take our jobs and suck the blood out of our welfare system........the priests are corn holing little boys and the scoutmasters are cocksuckers........and the TV is telling us that "it's OK to be gay"........when we know in our hearts that faggots are simply perverted butt fucking queers........and the feminists are telling White women that White men aren't worth-a-shit and that they need to be independent instead of loyal to men.

You tell me if that doesn't sound insane???

Don't tell me about paranoid...............you jew bastard.........I'll kick your teeth down your throat if you continue to put this psycho-crap into the minds of my White Brothers.

To my White Brothers:

Was George Washington paranoid? The King of England was stealing from the colonists and putting them in jail and even killing them. Washington would have been considered "paranoid" if he took that stupid test, too.

How about the rest of the Founding Fathers of America?

They pledged their lives...........their fortunes...........and their sacred honor for their cause. They did that because.......they too.......were living in insane times. I bet that the jew psychologists would have called that anti-social behavior, too.

In other words.......they were out-spoken and they defied the King and his huge army and they said that they weren't going to take that shit anymore.

Those men were not "mentally ill"............they were "brave".

What part of brave don't you understand?

The jew is sly and cunning............he will make you second-guess yourself. He will spin you around and put crap into your head, until you don't even know your own name.

Go back and re-read that test..........this time knowing that it was created by a jew to undermine your self-confidence and resolve. It will take on a whole new meaning.

We are in a fight to the death..........the jew "really" wants to destroy the White Race.

He will do it by making our women fuck niggers instead of us.

He will do it while you're lying on a couch in a psychologists office crying the blues about how fucked-up your life is..........while he takes your money for that precious counseling that is nothing more then a pity party circle jerk.

Don't let the jew turn you into a mental basket-case.

Be Strong White Men............Be brave.

I guess I got off topic, well anyway I was really trying to make a distinction between people who can see and develop future world possibilites and visions like (nietzche, spengler, yockey, etc, etc) and the ones who can't and are held down by "slave morality"(aka lemmings). I envision White Nationalism much more than merely a "political faction", It's a world-view and vision that will explode in the very near future. We the few, we can envision the future when everyone else is blinded my ZOG/NWO slave blinders.It's so amazing right now to see people be totally oblivious to the current World-situation. Hell right now it can't be more obvious, but the imcompents and lemmings will never rise to higher sphere of perceptiability.Maybe I am a "prophetic" But I just see everything with regarging to "multiculturalism" in Western socieites completly backfiring and leading to unprecendented racial conflict and warfare. What else will be the result of the current situation? It's not like Euro's are just going to let there lands be conquered forever while our ethnocentrism is suppressed. It will backfire, the Jews while get driven out again, The non-white culture distorters will be either engaged in a war with us or they will leave peacefully go back to their native lands( a doubt though). We will eventually win, History, human nature, current trends and common sense yield us to be the new visionaries to the coming day of age.

Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: Low
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Moderate
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

How could I be narcissistic AND antisocial? Theyre are contradictory traits, the narcissist needs people to praise them, while the anit-social person avoids people. Wouldn't base my psychological make-up on a free 4 minute internet test. :cool:

I'm with Brutus, this, like most psychiatry, is just garbage.

Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: Moderate
Antisocial: Moderate
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: High
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

The test was interesting. But it did not allow compensation for a people with a life long disability. I have had a profound hearing loss since infancy. Hearing loss is a disability in comunication with others.

I always have trouble with tests like these. On many of the questions I could have answered either way.

Taking the test again, I allowed myself to answer more freely as a hearing-impaired person, changing some answers to better reflect the difficulties of being hearing-impaired in a hearing world.

Disorder Rating
Paranoid: High
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: High
Antisocial: High
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: Moderate
Avoidant: Moderate
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate


I am anti-social or paranoid according to this test. Again, this test only takes into account their imaginary "average" person. The theories behind this test is questionable.

I, for one, spend all day wearing hearing aids at work. Trying to hear and follow conversations is work for me and the last thing I am in a mood for at the end of the work day is going out and socializing on a regular basis. I enjoy doing things with others as long as talking is not the primary activity. Shooting billiards, sports and other activities is how I enjoy life.

But communicating and caring about others is not my thing. For the first six years of my life, I did not talk to anyone. I did not learn to read, write, or even talk until after the age of six. I am the wild child. Yes, I have been a case study for researchers at the local universities. About once or twice a year, up until my junior year in highschool, my mother would take me to Ann Arbor or Detroit so researchers could test my intelligence, communicative, and social skills. Other times, I would be taken out of class for some researcher who came to my small town to see me. I have taken more of these phychological tests than many other people have and this is due to me being a part of a new way of teaching children with severe hearing loss how to communicate and be a part of the "normal" world.

As I have become older, I do not really give a damn what other people think about me or their feelings. I really do not have much feelings for others. If someone dies, it is just another data in life. For the last week my father has been in bed with the flu and there may be a possibility that he may not make it. My emotional state? Nothing.

I often wonder, due to being both "deaf" and alone from others for the first six years of my life, that this is the natural result of my early years. I may never have developed the "feelings" part of the emotional development.

I may be unusual, but I am not crazy.

These tests are nothing more than a diagnostic tool to decide if further test may be needed. They should not be used to give "scores" to the general public without knowing the particulars of each person's situation.

I've seen heaven and I've seen hell, and I'm warning young people that dark-side shit like Nazism, Satanism and Hate are not things to toy with. They could end up costing you your freedom, and even your life. It's not worth it.


ErikD,

Your statements are correct. I am not even in my middle age and many of thise I grew up with who got involve with those things you mentioned above are all dead. I am the only one I know of that is still alive.

I am still alive because my love for the white race and all of its achievements.

The greatest of achievements is free market capitalism. Without the western form of free markets, the world would never have come this far in wealth, technology, etc.

We will not succeed in our struggle until we fully realize what made our race superior. It wasn't national socialism, it was the free market.

[QUOTE=brutus]You all sound like a bunch of weak sissys.

You are buying into the jew's psycho-babble.

Let me tell you the truth....[snip remainder of Brutus's eloquent analysis]
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Bravo, Brutus! You appear to be the only one here who doesn't waste his time soaking up what Oprah Winfrey or her Dr. Bill blather about.

I had to sift through my friend ErikD's touchy-feely, mostly "psycho-babbly" postings on this thread to find this basic truth from him:

"I believe though that most serious racialists are different than most people, we don't fit "in" like others. Most people who fit in and are popular are mostly completly brainwashed "lemmings", who just follow the political line wherever ZOG leads them. I really think that White Nationalists are special in that regard, most of us probably never had any intentions in fitting in with society or becoming a slave to the "herd instinct". We should consider ourselves lucky, anyway who the fuck would want to fit into the degenerate, hedonistic, cosmopolitan society of today?"

We White racists are the remnant of responsible adults in a world of children. We are the island of sanity, as Tom Metzger says, in a world gone stark raving mad. It is our despised ethnocentric world view that makes us unique. Once we have each truly committed ourselves to the purpose of White survival and renewal, yes, we are going to find ourselves isolated from the mass men for the most part. It's vital that we few unique "square pegs" seek each other out, read the right books and find validation for our convictions that we are right and the rest of our long-suffering tribe are little more than goyim to be herded, milked, sheared, then slaughtered by the Jew. It's not easy being right these days; it's damned difficult.

What we do is not for the weak or squeamish. We are constantly evaluating and analysing EVERYTHING we see by OUR standard, our Golden Rule, if you will: is this good for our race, something we can support and fight for, or is this detrimental to our race, something which we must vigorously oppose? By this simple standard we racial loyalists live our lives. It is so simple, really, to learn how to judge good from bad, right from wrong, and act accordingly; many things judged in this manner we will find to be race neutral.

I took the psychological test and found it to be almost totally superficial bullshit. I'm aloof, elite, and feel above society; I have what you might call a superiority complex. The unwashed may call me mean and arrogant; I'd rather be alone in the woods with my dog than in a crowd of sports fans or lemmings; I don't trust many people and love even fewer; I have intrusive thoughts of harming or killing others -- LOTS of others -- and I'm hypervigilant to the degree that some kike shrink would declare me paranoic or pathological or anti-social or suffering from dementia precox (the supposed inability to lift up or demonstrate compassion for thy fellow nigger). Yes, I instinctively choose seats in public places where my back is against the wall so that no one is behind me, and I do lots of other things that White prey don't regard as "normal" from their insignificant viewpoint.

I know that I have real enemies and I know who they are. Some of that I realize is a factor of my having been exposed to prolonged heavy combat in my youth, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), if you like labels. I understand why I don't like loud noises and why I don't sleep well and why I have a lot of rage in me. Having survived a shooting war after coming so close to death gives life a flavor that the uninitiated and protected will never know. Surviving a war makes the returning soldier open his eyes and think, hopefully, but I don't see hardly any VFW yahoos involved in the REAL war: the war for the very existence of our unique genotype. Most are too busy just trying to cope with life in the "degenerate, hedonistic, cosmopolitan society" ErikD mentions.

To me every day since my tours in Vietnam is a gift, not to be wasted, it was merely good training and preparation for being a political soldier today. I don't understand people who are fearful to be open race-fighters and I do not want them around me. What's to fear? That one may lose the approval of the weak and cowardly? Big deal! I have found that committing to our Holy Cause has given me a clearly defined purpose in life that others lack. As long as I can channel my rage at the evil I see around me into what I consider to be constructive, productive work for our people, everybody is safe. :D

I've seen heaven and I've seen hell, and I'm warning young people that dark-side shit like Nazism, Satanism and Hate are not things to toy with. They could end up costing you your freedom, and even your life. It's not worth it.


"Dark-side"? That's from Star Wars. Wow, I can tell that ErikD is completely in touch with reality!

We White racists are the remnant of responsible adults in a world of children. We are the island of sanity, as Tom Metzger says, in a world gone stark raving mad. It is our despised ethnocentric world view that makes us unique. Once we have each truly committed ourselves to the purpose of White survival and renewal, yes, we are going to find ourselves isolated from the mass men for the most part. It's vital that we few unique "square pegs" seek each other out, read the right books and find validation for our convictions that we are right and the rest of our long-suffering tribe are little more than goyim to be herded, milked, sheared, then slaughtered by the Jew. It's not easy being right these days; it's damned difficult.

What we do is not for the weak or squeamish. We are constantly evaluating and analysing EVERYTHING we see by OUR standard, our Golden Rule, if you will: is this good for our race, something we can support and fight for, or is this detrimental to our race, something which we must vigorously oppose? By this simple standard we racial loyalists live our lives. It is so simple, really, to learn how to judge good from bad, right from wrong, and act accordingly; many things judged in this manner we will find to be race neutral.

I took the psychological test and found it to be almost totally superficial bullshit. I'm aloof, elite, and feel above society; I have what you might call a superiority complex. The unwashed may call me mean and arrogant; I'd rather be alone in the woods with my dog than in a crowd of sports fans or lemmings; I don't trust many people and love even fewer; I have intrusive thoughts of harming or killing others -- LOTS of others -- and I'm hypervigilant to the degree that some kike shrink would declare me paranoic or pathological or anti-social or suffering from dementia precox (the supposed inability to lift up or demonstrate compassion for thy fellow nigger). Yes, I instinctively choose seats in public places where my back is against the wall so that no one is behind me, and I do lots of other things that White prey don't regard as "normal" from their insignificant viewpoint.

I know that I have real enemies and I know who they are. Some of that I realize is a factor of my having been exposed to prolonged heavy combat in my youth, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), if you like labels. I understand why I don't like loud noises and why I don't sleep well and why I have a lot of rage in me. Having survived a shooting war after coming so close to death gives life a flavor that the uninitiated and protected will never know. Surviving a war makes the returning soldier open his eyes and think, hopefully, but I don't see hardly any VFW yahoos involved in the REAL war: the war for the very existence of our unique genotype. Most are too busy just trying to cope with life in the "degenerate, hedonistic, cosmopolitan society" ErikD mentions.

To me every day since my tours in Vietnam is a gift, not to be wasted, it was merely good training and preparation for being a political soldier today. I don't understand people who are fearful to be open race-fighters and I do not want them around me. What's to fear? That one may lose the approval of the weak and cowardly? Big deal! I have found that committing to our Holy Cause has given me a clearly defined purpose in life that others lack. As long as I can channel my rage at the evil I see around me into what I consider to be constructive, productive work for our people, everybody is safe. :D


Relevant Nietzsche Quote:
Unzählig viele einzelne höherer Art gehen jetzt zugrunde: aber wer davon kommt, ist stark wie der Teufel. --Friedrich Nietzsche, Der Wille zur Macht 61

Innumerably many individuals of a higher type currently are going to ruin: but whoever comes out of that is strong as the Devil. --Friedrich Nietzsche, The Will to Power, aphorism #61

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Right now I am getting professional help to assist me in dealing with my own psychological problems due to some very painful family issues from the past, so these scores aren't as high as they normally would have been. However, a couple years back, when I was in denial about the real sources of my anger and hatred, and a big proponent of the WCOTC's RaHoWa! philosophy, my scores would have been completely off the chart.

The reason I am posting this test and my results here is to draw attention to mental illness and to share a little bit of my own story in hopes of reaching some people in WN circles who may have similar problems.

The most dangerous thing I have noticed about extremist politics is that it often serves as an excuse for a disturbed person to unconsciously vent all anger or frustration they may feel onto a convenient external target, instead of focusing on other actual sources of the anger in the mind or emotions.

That is why so many people with family or psychological problems are attracted to extremist movements... because it allows them to displace their anger and frustration onto an external scapegoat and avoid the painful process of taking a closer look at their own life and problems. In psychology this is known as projection (or scapegoating)... and the sad fact is, people often do this completely unconsciously... without even being aware of it.

Now, there are going to be some people who respond... "Well, what about what the jews did, or the blacks did, etc...", and I am the first to admit that there are some legitimate things to be concerned about in this country, but that doesn't change the fact that very often people use these legitimate external concerns as a way to safely displace all of their internal anger, when in reality, they may have completely unrelated psychological or family issues that are the source of the majority of their anger and hate.

The presence of a scapegoat, whether guilty or innocent, often serves to blind a person to the true nature of their discontent, and hinders psychological growth. The more infractions the scapegoat is actually guilty of, the more dangerous, because it only serves to strengthen the conviction that the scapegoat is the source of all problems, and this can completely blind the angry person to any hidden causes of internal rage.

Before anyone continues to point fingers at scapegoats, they would be wise to take a long look in the mirror, and to reflect on their personal and especially family situation to see if there are any other sources of rage they may have been blinded to in their rush to judge others so vehemently. Often we may find a good portion of our anger, fear and hate to be directed towards our family or society, but it is certainly a lot easier and more acceptable to blame the scapegoat... the "other".

So, take the personality test... answer it honestly, and then look at your own life objectively and ask yourself... are you being even slightly (perhaps unconsciously) dishonest in blaming ALL of your and the countries problems on "the _______". Are there any sources of pain, anger and frustration in your life or past that you have not addressed and resolved?

How is your family life?

Is it functional or dysfunctional?

Are you a happy person?

For true growth to occur, we must stop blaming others ALL THE TIME, even if they have done some things wrong, and start addressing our own personal issues. It is only when you admit and address your own issues that you can become psychologically and spiritually healthy, and only then will you be able to accurately perceive the actions of others, and be able to criticize them accurately and justifiably.

This is why in the bible Christ said "remove the beam out of your own eye before you point to the splinter in your brothers eye". It is only when our own vision is clear that we can correctly perceive the faults of others. This is not just some nice-sounding jewish story... it is a psychological fact.

Take the test... answer it honestly... and reflect on your own life and situation, and ask yourself if the problems in this country really warrant getting so angry that you want to start mass-murdering people, or are you displacing anger as a result of family and/or psychological problems?

I can tell you that for many years I myself was doing just that, without even realizing it, because the most effective scapegoat in the world is the one that has done or is doing something wrong, and so allows us to avoid our fear of looking at ourselves and dealing with our own issues, angers, pains and fears. Don't be afraid to get professional help to deal with your issues... that's what the doctors are there for. You wouldn't hesitate to see a doctor if you had a splinter in your eye, so why hesitate to see one if you have a splinter in your mind, heart or psyche?

If you think you may need professional help... go get it. It will probably be the best thing you ever did for yourself.

The last thing I want to say is that, if this doesn't apply to you (or you don't want to admit it might), don't complain to me. I'm posting this here for those who need and want help to be happier people. This has nothing to do with race or politics, but everything to do with the psychological health of our people, and the fact is, White people suffer from mental illness just like every other race of people.

Hope this helps someone.
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Erik, would love to see an essay submitted to VNN on this, man! You could just tweak the post, and there you have it.

Wouldn't base my psychological make-up on a free 4 minute internet test. :cool:

I'm with Brutus, this, like most psychiatry, is just garbage. [QUOTE=Draco]
Look into Carl Jung, man. Both he and that test have little to do with psychiatry, as a psychiatrist is just a medical doctor who has had at least X number of years of post-graduate training in psychiatry at a recognized teaching institution. A psychiatrist prescribes medication. That's what they do all the livelong day, and go through cursory mental health checklists. But the checklist is just a means to an end to prescribe medication. And that, as you pick up on, IS being used against Whites. All these little boys doped up early in their lives, so their parents won't be distracted by them, so they can watch the ball game, go shopping, stay at the office all the time, etc.

You may have heard the joke - a psychiatrist is "a Jew doctor who can't stand the sight of blood..."

I wouldn't base things ON that psychology exercise, either, but learning about the way you view relationships and people, by putting questions to yourself, that shit is fun. It'd be a good start for someone who feels like they want to look into things for themselves. If you're happy with yourself and your life, then yeah, it'd be a waste of time.

very often people use these legitimate external concerns as a way to safely displace all of their internal anger, when in reality, they may have completely unrelated psychological or family issues that are the source of the majority of their anger and hate.

The presence of a scapegoat, whether guilty or innocent, often serves to blind a person to the true nature of their discontent, and hinders psychological growth.

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Erik, would love to see an essay submitted to VNN on this, man! You could just tweak the post, and there you have it.

Actually the observation is sophomoric. I mean, there is truth in it but not the whole truth, so that what ErikD says there (which NSita underlined) is in a way misleading.

If you really want to talk about Carl Jung I can dig out a statement of his to the effect that it is always a kink in the personality that drives people to do great deeds. Anyone who maintains a state of nirvana (or ataraxia as the Greeks called it) is not going to do a damned thing.

It is really an old truism that people drawn to radical politics have personal issues that their politics reflect, but what about people in mainstream politics? Do you think people like William Bennett, who spew out crowd-pleasing blather like his The Book of Virtues while at the same time having some secret out-of-control vice-- Do you think people like that are well adjusted? I am sure that you can think of other mainstream status-seekers who likewise have had a public persona that was belied by some scandal. If someone joins a movement because of anger, I think this is healthier and certainly more respectable than going through life kissing ass like Bill Bennett because one craves the status and approval. I would say that the angry man who is driven to join a political movement that symbolically represents an inner conflict that he has is much more authentic than the status-seekers of mainstream politics. Furthermore, we have anger and aggressiveness for a reason. In some way it serves our survival.

Also, ErikD would like to treat the question of truth or falsity in scapegoating as of secondary importance. Truth and falsity are of primary importance. As long as the emotional energy that people have (from whatever source) is directed conscientiously, it facilitates the accomplishment of great things.

It is not realistic to expect people to have total inner harmony, especially in a society as out-of-order and disturbing as we see today. If they do have it for a while, sooner or later (later if they happen to be isolated from the rest of society) some real-world event will impinge upon their sheltered existence, and then they will feel driven to do something--with luck, something well considered and useful.

If "emotional growth" means progressing toward bovine contentment and the capacity for indifference to the problems of our people, I am not sure that it is a good thing at all.

If "emotional growth" means progressing toward bovine contentment and the capacity for indifference to the problems of our people, I am not sure that it is a good thing at all.
Well then lucky for us, eh? That it doesn't mean that! What better -- what more valuable -- than the righteous anger that starts us on a path...


348.

Measure of wisdom.— Growth in wisdom can be measured precisely by decline in bile.

5.

What is needed first.— A man who refuses to become master over his wrath, his choler and revengefulness, and his lusts and attempts to become master in anything else, is as stupid as a farmer who stakes out his field besides a torrential stream without protecting himself against it.

Disorder | Rating
Paranoid: Low
Schizoid: Low
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Low
Borderline: Low
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Low
Avoidant: Low
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: Low

Actually the observation is sophomoric...
Also, ErikD would like to treat the question of truth or falsity in scapegoating as of secondary importance. Truth and falsity are of primary importance. As long as the emotional energy that people have (from whatever source) is directed conscientiously, it facilitates the accomplishment of great things.

It is not realistic to expect people to have total inner harmony, especially in a society as out-of-order and disturbing as we see today. If they do have it for a while, sooner or later (later if they happen to be isolated from the rest of society) some real-world event will impinge upon their sheltered existence, and then they will feel driven to do something--with luck, something well considered and useful.

If "emotional growth" means progressing toward bovine contentment and the capacity for indifference to the problems of our people, I am not sure that it is a good thing at all.


Agreed. The ones who should be writing essays for VNN are Hadding, White Will, Brutus. If ErikD has personal issues he's had trouble dealing with and got involved with white politics for the wrong (or unconscious??) reasons, that's a shame and he is to be wished well. But projecting that situation on movement members as a whole is itself highly narcissistic (a personal problem writ large) and implies that resistance to dispossession is a sign of mental illness -- hmm, where have we heard that before?

Not to be too hard on ErikD, because I think what he intends to say is that SOME folks like him may confuse personal problems with political ones, not ALL. But his intent notwithstanding, it reads like the stuff of the second half of American History X where Derrick decides basically that white politics is bad news because it makes his lemming mother cry that he's involved with it and life would be better if he kissed more jew ass and joined in the diversity parade.

The link in this thread is actually not a personality test, itz a purported test for 'personality disorders," a very nebulous concept.

Here's a real personality test based on the five factor model:

http://cac.psu.edu/~j5j/test/ipipneo300.htm