Pierce said it many years ago, the majority of people attracted to White Nationalism are emotionally immature losers.

Let's have a look some of the recent WN doings:

1) Alex -the great WN "wit"- Linder, hooked up with one Bill - I used to be a commie but now I'm a WN - White. Together these two geniuses tried to take over the National Alliance by chanting the following magical incantation: Kevin Strom is a weenie, Kevin Strom is a weenie -- ad nauseam. Such shrewd and brilliant political operators. I, for one, would be willing to follow such "leaders" to the ends of the earth, that's how much confidence they've inspired in me. I'm not a member of the NA, and maybe they need to clean house, but this attempted coup d'etat was pathetic in the extreme.

Let's not forget the brilliant business model of "Shop White". Yes, Alex and Bill's excellent adventure into big business -- eBay was going to be sent scampering away with its tail between its legs. Oh wait, "Shop White" was "hacked". Any of you dim-bulbs who were moronic enough to join had your name and credit card info go to "who-knows-where". Suckers.

Oh, let's not forget Ally-Waly's regular rants against women.

The above behavior of Alex - Mr. Smarty-Pants - Linder can be explained by one of the following:

Alex is a moron.
Alex is provocateur in the employ of ZOG.
Alex is a jew.


But since its been revealed that Alex is an unemployed, bankrupt, unmarried, mid-aged man who spends his days in his grandmother's basement where he commands an imaginary White Viacom, I'll guess that he's just a moron.

2) Then there's "Mark - I'm-spending-my-thrust-fund-like-the-Taliban-are-in-Staten Island - Moran. This guy wrote in to VNN using his real name and then attempted to get a seat on his town council. How "shocked, shocked" he was when he was "outed". Mr. Trust Fund Tough-Guy reacted by saying "National what? Alex who? RUN AWAAYYYY!!!".

3) Hal Turner. The "Genius Hal" program goes something like this: Fuck, shit, nigger, kike. I think I'm having a heart attack. Send money."

4) If you don't like Weird Hal, you have an alternative with Von Bluvens. His show is much different than Hal's. It goes like this. "Hal Turner is a money begging asshole. Fuck, shit, nigger, kike. I have to hide all summer because the space aliens are after me. Send money."

5) Stormfront, the nice racists. No bad words over there, just nice racists dreaming about how they will all be great Aryan Warriors -- after the collapse comes of course. I'll bet dollars to dough-nuts (the operative word being dough-nuts) that the majority of the great "Aryan Warriors" are fat-asses that have never been in a fist fight.

6) Kievesky/Freeman or whatever personality is in control today. His idea of offing ZOG is that we all should travel back in time to the 15th century and become peasants. Smart move Sibel. You may have noticed that Russia was a peasant society in 1917 when Izzy took over -- and he's been mopping the floor with the peasants ever since -- when he's not whoring out their women.

7) Bob DeMarais. The good Doctor thinks that he can do in ZOG by putting out a racist version of True Detective magazine. Brilliant idea Doc, just what the WN movement needs: one more slick to help us along in the big WN circle jerk.

8) Some dumb shit that watches too many Spaghetti Westerns and thinks that all the world's problems could be solved if "we just believed in the magic of gold".

I could go on but I think you all get the picture. Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.

This is going to be my only post here, so flame away. I will not respond.

Alex is a moron.
Alex is provocateur in the employ of ZOG.
Alex is a jew.


*LOL* I sure hope Alex sees this! It's good for a laugh. :D

But I'm shocked -- shocked! -- that I didn't make the list. Then again, my time is divided between projects, can't write as much as I would like to to VNN.

Now, this pathetic guy didn't suggest any ideas for what a WN should be doing, instead of trying to wake people up by building White media. I would ask him what he has done for his people, but I think I already know the answer. As I said, pathetic, itz. Crowned by an "I'm too scared to read your replies!" at the end. *LOL*

Hm, there's a word for these people, isn't it? I think it starts with an L and ends with oser. :cool:

Like Bushy the useless Goy says "free speech is a great thing, ain't it".

Well, I'll give this malcontent a bit of credit. He/she is up to date on the latest WN gossip and at least has tuned into some of the various WN activities out there to satisfy the racialist palate.
Without rehashing some of the issues from the last year, what exactly does this gutless pussy think of Mr. Linder?
A Jew ADL agent huh?
Oh man,that sucks.
I'll take your word for it pussy. Afterall, I'm sure you know exactly what's going on.

No doubt that mistakes have been made. Some people royally fucked up. I won't disagree that people should never use their credit/personal info on the web within the racialist realm.
No doubt that racialism has its fair share of undesirables and bored hobbyists who like to blow off steam.

But hey, maybe you can tell us a bit more about yourself. Tell us about your career, your activism, your bravery in facing our Jew infested society, the many babies you've had....
Have we seen you on the TeeVee by any chance?
Let us know when we will ok.

It is time to grow up, I'll agree with that for sure.

Maybe we need a solid leader like this dripping pussy...someone who really knows the score on it all, knows what we should or shouldn't do, who we should or shouldn't listen to.

I think I know who this fuck wad is. Writing reminds me of someone from another web board I used to go to.

So, please tell us all some more gossip and advice.

Thanks.

Ho hummm, and now for the daily slapdown!

Guys like Vaginaitis will be with us always. They are, to coin a phrase, "a dime a dozen". You see, Vaginaitis actually feels inferior to most people. Hence the putdowns and insults geared to make others feel small, like he does. Thus one can control the victim to some extent. Notice the use of supressive mechanisms that chop away at ones self-esteem. "Alex is a moron, Alex is provocateur in the employ of ZOG, Alex is a jew." He pretends to acknowledge something you are proud of and then makes negative insinuations about it. He feels out what you think your shortcomings are and then exploits them at calculated times when he knows you are vulnerable. He has to control you because he perceives you as being superior to him. He takes accusations that have "some truth" and fires them at you "in all honesty," "just being your friend," "to help you out". "Get good jobs, make White babies, get elected", etc. He feels our pain!

Scumbags like Vaginaitis also like to pick out qualities that are most important to you and then tear them apart: "Alex -the great WN wit", "Alex and Bill's excellent adventure into big business". It all has to do with control. Vaginaitis has to have control. It's survival for him - ego survival. Because he sees himself as lesser than you, there will always be the push to reduce you so he can control you. The very first time you are sick or run-down or in trouble, or in any way down, he will try to make sure you stay down.

But more than anything else, puke like Vaginaitis have to be right! To be wrong is the most horrific thing that can happen to him because the ego can't stand it. If proved wrong, he will either become extremely revengeful or flee in terror.

"This is going to be my only post here, so flame away. I will not respond." Guess which tact Vaginaitis has opted to take.

Cowards like Vaginaitis have to embarrass you in front of a group. Because he feels powerless himself he uses the group for power. He does this because he doesn't feel good about himself and thinks you are better than he is, so he tries to make you look small. Then he can feel better. If you get them alone, you may find that like the typical coward, they squirm in their seat and become apologetic. They learn to have respect for you because they know you will confront them instead of hiding behind a group.

In short, Vaginaitis and his ilk are usually burdens that impinge on others. They take no responsibility for themselves but create more and more unwanted responsibility for others. They come from the bowels of the physical universe. They are destructive, evil, sneaky, and have no conscience. They degrade people and abuse the cherished things in life and spoil them.

In a sane society Vaginaitis would be taken out and bitch slapped and sent home to his mommy to cry in her tuna smelling lap!

So sad!

Veritas, I've a question, though if that was indeed your one and only post here
at Alex Linder's VNN Forum :D , then the question will go unanswered: I notice you begin by quoting Dr. William Pierce, and you do not specifically criticize the NA (though you have plenty of others covered). Are you of the school of the aggressive championing of non-criticism of all WN's, save the many and varied bigmouthed, White-repelling "Cultists"?

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.

This is an amusing thread, top to bottom. Fact is, lots of whites have babies, own businesses, and buy off politicians. Problem is, they don't do this with any thought - or realization, as to what is going on. By that, I mean they don't take in the real picture. They are unaware that we are actually at war with the jews. The jews are aware, and use legislative and psychological tools against whites. Most whites are unaware. When whites buy off politicians, it's generally for some perceived advantage in business. When jews buy off politicians, they do so in large numbers, as an organized group, with aims that are geared towards results that are 'good for the jews'. The whites, including most of the highly educated, are unaware - and brainwashed, due to jew control of the media. And another fact is that most whites are now too busy trying to stay afloat to get involved in political matters - or too far removed. At the moment.

Veritas goes on the attack, but fails to take in some truths about the WN 'movement'. Most of those who put themselves in the open soon become unable to maintain a "normal" or mainstream job due to organized jew pressure, etc. That's why a lot of it is so 'covert' one could say. Others can joke about lone wolves. Those with the lone wolf mentality merely need to stay frosty, and be ready. The truth is, society is headed toward an inevitable collapse, most of it due to the invasion of smelly, low IQ shitskins from South of the Border. Read your MacDonald. This is going to force whites to become racially aware. Read your MacDonald. This isn't theory either. As it happened to the professor through his research, it's going to happen to whites through their experience(s). It's inevitable. When that happens, no amount of televised propaganda, or shit passing for news in the papers is going to be able to keep things together. Then the lone wolves can begin their work, and in fact step out into the open as leaders. "Oh no, it can't happen here. Not in America!" Sure.

Veritas is just trying to get yer goat! Sow some seeds of doubt. When people are doing that, it means they are worried. You can also be assured that he will be back. Maybe under another name, but still spewing the same crap.

Working through 'normal channels' is not going to work. There isn't enough time before the economy and everything else finally dump, and the jews and their allies have put together safeguards in terms of media ownership, distributorship, etc. to block whites for a long, long time. And of course, jews will only sell, etc. to other jews - but will work together to take from us. We can try to take things, but the "law" will prevent us. For now.

As in my other post, don't believe the crap about there being only 5 million jews in the US. It's at least double that, and probably much higher.

I can see the pragmatism behind your thoughts ErikD.
No doubt that you have a solid rational working mind.
At the end of the day, one has to look at the costs/benefit analysis.

Sure, I can see that at the moment, most Whites will see any sort of resistance to the slow, covert destruction of their race as lacking in benefits.

What is a common theme within WN circles? The old 'it has to get worse before it gets better' mantra.
Maybe so. Maybe not.

The Native American Indians are extinct for all intensive purposes. Although their blood flows through the veins of spanish speaking mestizos, their cultural, spiritual and racial identity is kaput.
We destroyed this race for all eternity in less than 400 years.
The jews are trying to destroy our race - PERIOD!
This is not some fuckin joke, a way to play dress up and chant sieg heil and make racist jokes and long for the days of antebellum Dixie.
What is transpiring in the last 30 years or so is serious shit.
Jews hate Whites and are using the mud peoples to dilute us for their own ends.
The mud races, asians and especially jews have clear cut racial consciousness.
Whites do not since the Germanic nation-state was defeated 60 years ago.

We are in a very precarious position.

Yes, Whites will not die out in our children's generation or even their children's, but it CAN happen and that is no fanciful, psychopathic bullshit.

Just take a look at 1958 America and 2003 Amerikwa.
Quite a change in a relatively short time span, huh?

Am I saying that next week there will be riots in the streets? No.
Am I saying that there will even ever be a war of some sort? Probably not.

But Whites will have to eventually choose one of these 2 options:

1.) die off quietly and passively over the next 5 or so generations
or
2.) unite and resist our destruction and establish a strong, cohesive racial identity.

It is only between these 2 options.

I agree in your self help aspects ErikD, but do you think we can work within the system the way things are established now?
This is an honest question.
I would rather work with the system to promote our interests and still feel this is possible, but almost every year we as a collective race are becoming marginalized in our country.

I am currently thinking a real White political party is now starting to be our only hope in the long run.

"A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another."

-- Mao Zedong

He has a point you know.

"Most intelligent and competent White people will NEVER buy into crap like that because they have jobs, homes, families, businesses, and they enjoy having the electricity, water and sewage working, and the streets free of roving mobs looking to commit bloody mass murder and destroy societies infrastructure in the name of "revolution". These are the same White masses who own millions of guns and wouldn't hesitate to use them against revolutionary mobs to preserve law and order... even White "Aryan" mobs"-Eric D


"Never" my ignorant and uneducated friend? What if said Whites lose their homes, jobs, business? Think it can't happen? Try cracking a history book, Einstein. For some reason history has this little habit of repeating itself. I know it can be confusing for someone who thinks that " adhering to and promoting counterproductive ideas like race-war, Hitler, Nazis, Fascism" is too scary to contemplate but believe it or not it happened quite recently in our past.

The Weimar of Germany circa 1918-1933 has political and cultural lessons that retain uncanny relevance for all who seek to understand the tensions and possibilities of our age. The liberalism and decadence and the promise of a communist/Jew new world order was soon belied by corruption, poverty and the political infighting that eventually paved the way for Uncle Wolf, of blessed memory.

So the next time you say, "The more likely scenario is that the White race will just slide towards slow extinction".....I suggest you study the history of White People. You might find that even in your pathetic gene lineage an ancestor with a pair!

ErikD said-
The reality is, that normal, responsible citizens consider people talking of bombing, killing, and revolution to be crackpot anarchist/communist terrorist psychos, and rightfully so. Normal people don't want a bloody war in the streets, and they will do everything in their legal, political and financial power to prevent it from happening, and put people who encourage such lunacy behind bars, six-feet-under, or in financial ruin.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97777&highlight=george+lincoln+rockwell
I do not mean that we must work ourselves up into a 'pitchfork and barricade' mentality or engage in violent revolution. This old-fashioned attack won't work, as our side learned at the Feldherrnhalle in Munich, but we must stiffen the backbones of enough people so that they prefer to lose their jobs, as we do; so that they prefer to be unjustly jailed and fined, as we are; be railroaded to the insane asylum, as we are; or even to be beaten, as we are -- before they will permit Jew tyrants to advance one more fraction of an inch into our last bastions of racial pride and national freedom.


Just ask Matt Hale, Gordon Kahl, Randy Weaver, Tom Metzger, Ben Klassen, Church of the Creator, all of the Order, Alex Curtis, Aryan Nations, not to mention dozens upon dozens of white rebels who have been sued, harrassed, thrown in jail or killed by the system.
Randy Weaver is my cousin by marriage. I spent last Father's Day with him and asked him more or less just that which you supposed. Just about the first thing he told me was to disregard all US gun laws. At the end of the day, he told me that if Vicki could look from wherever she is and see what had happened, that he thought she would approve of all the learning and awarenesses by so many which have come from the events...and that she would like that.

I think Matt Hale continues to have the same general views.

We are already IN a racial holy war. It's just that most Whites wish and like to think that it will go away and get better.

Roy Batty and the grimly dissenting Max_Power both have a way more accurate view of reality than you do, ErikD.

It is beyond me that racially aware Whites think they are going to vote or placate themselves out of the Worldwide Multi Cult.

ErikD said-
Worse is worse. White people will not wake up unless concerned Whites wake them up... preferably without a swastika tattooed on their foreheads a la Charlie Manson style.
Why does Resistance/NA sell combat boots with 5 swastikas deeply embedded in the soles and totenkopf Nazi death skull bumper stickers, and at the same time countenance its members gratuitously- rather continuously running down the swastika and "cultists"? Personally, I LIKE their swastika boots and am going to buy a pair.

Lincoln Rockwell By William L. Pierce
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52013&highlight=george+lincoln+rockwell

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97777&highlight=george+lincoln+rockwell
I do not mean that we must work ourselves up into a 'pitchfork and barricade' mentality or engage in violent revolution. This old-fashioned attack won't work, as our side learned at the Feldherrnhalle in Munich, but we must stiffen the backbones of enough people so that they prefer to lose their jobs, as we do; so that they prefer to be unjustly jailed and fined, as we are; be railroaded to the insane asylum, as we are; or even to be beaten, as we are -- before they will permit Jew tyrants to advance one more fraction of an inch into our last bastions of racial pride and national freedom.

Excellent point.
Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.

Everybody here is a lonewolf? Uh-uh. But I bet you are, boy. And what do you do instead of getting organized? Bitch and moan, ya lazy bastard.


Excellent point Max_Power. The whole "worse is better" philosophy is fatally flawed... because it's just not true. "Worse is better"/"wait for the collapse to come" is basically an excuse for people to sit on their asses and do nothing while they complain and wait for a magical solution that will never come.

Bad point, actually. Drawing a parallell to South Africa is pretty much useless. Whites there have other White countries to flee to, and South Africa has the Western world looking down on it; no real, full-steam-ahead race war will start under that situation. (Duh)

When the time comes for America it's a whole different ballgame; the U.S. as a Third World economy will change the world in unimaginable ways, and there's no safety net when both America and Europe are falling.

Race revolutions are plentiful, and Whites have rebelled and revolted countless times throughout history. But never when they are still fairly well off. Just pick up a book on European history and start reading, I don't feel like doing it for you. I will just give one example out of many: Finland rebelling against Russia twice in the 20th century, throwing out the Moscovites at the second attempt.

Everybody here is a lonewolf? Uh-uh. But I bet you are, boy. And what do you do instead of getting organized? Bitch and moan, ya lazy bastard.

Changing the subject, little girl?

This forum will be like the last one - that is, filled with psychopathic "lone wolf" fucks talking "tough" in cyberspace about Amerikwa's "future meltdown" at which point they'll "swing into action" and "kill all the kikes."

Bwahahahahahaha!

Get organized? You mean, join the "National Alliance" and litter neighborhoods or join "White Revolution" and march in front of SPLC headquarters?

Definitely not.

I'm employed. Happily married to the same supportive woman for decades. Father of a half-dozen fine, White children. Racial nationalists all. No tats on their bodies, bald heads, or docs on their feet. Honor students. Football players - a family tradition, itz! Lots of young friends who have been converted to the cause. Active and Sane.

Quite a contrast to psychopaths who are more interested in Third Reich costumes, jewelry, tats, docs, beer, or in moronic, anti-social behavior and spending needless time in jail than in winning.

This thread is right along the lines of a post I just wrote in response to someone's question of when the Rahowa (Racial Holy War) would begin. My response, with some of the same conclusions as above:

Today, 08:30 PM
Re: Who do you think will start Rahowa? Post #57

ErikD
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"Rahowa" is a fantasy subscribed to by budding socio/psychopaths with an axe to grind. I know because I was one.

The more likely scenario is that the White race will just slide towards slow extinction, unless of course the majority of White people can be instilled with racial consciousness and the desire for self-preservation.

One sure way to fail at this task is to continue adhering to and promoting counterproductive ideas like: Rahowa, war, race-war, Hitler, Nazis, Fascism, ovens, gas chambers, killing jews, day of the rope, Turner Diaries, people "hanging from lampposts", civil war 2, revolution, anarchy, killing, bombing, bloodshed, etc...

Most intelligent and competent White people will NEVER buy into crap like that because they have jobs, homes, families, businesses, and they enjoy having the electricity, water and sewage working, and the streets free of roving mobs looking to commit bloody mass murder and destroy societies infrastructure in the name of "revolution".

Stay away from destructive ideas like Rahowa and other psychopathic fantasies.


Everyone on this forum should read this post at least twice.

I will like to add the study of economics as part of a white man's education. We have been following erroneous economic policies in this movement and it has to stop. Just because someone is a "glorious leader" or "an upstanding white aryan man with a great bloodline" does not mean that that person know the first thing about economics.

Everyone is welcome to send me a PM on any issue dealing with political economy.

Keep in mind that who I am or what degree I have is irrelevent. What should matter is if I am telling the truth.

Changing the subject, little girl?

Oh dear, did I hurt your widdle feelings? Step on your widdle toe? Go ahead and call me more splendidly innovative insults, if it makes you feel better, before you go home and cry in mommy's lap. :)


This forum will be like the last one - that is, filled with psychopathic "lone wolf" fucks talking "tough" in cyberspace about Amerikwa's "future meltdown" at which point they'll "swing into action" and "kill all the kikes."

Bwahahahahahaha!

I see you lead by example: showing us how tough you are, even to the point of daring to badmouth the board members on their own turf! Wow! And all this with no other protection than sitting anonymously behind a computer in your home! *LOL*

Door locked, no doubt, just in case. :D


Get organized? You mean, join the "National Alliance" and litter neighborhoods or join "White Revolution" and march in front of SPLC headquarters?

Ahh, don't I just love that excuse: "I won't lift a finger 'cause look, these guys are doing everything wrong. And I even found a spelling error on their website." How about helping American Renaissance then, or any other anti-immigration effort that isn't too hardcore? Ever thought about that? Uh-oh, that would mean you would actually have to do something. That's no good. Not as much fun as bitching on a message board. So you'll pick out only the organizations that you can slander as being too extreme, and ignore the many other ways you could get involved, pretend they don't exist. Bravo, boy!

I'm employed.

Ooooohhhhh.... *gasping in admiration*

Happily married to the same supportive woman for decades. Father of a half-dozen fine, White children. Racial nationalists all.

I hope they aren't as lazy as their sissy father, too scared/lazy to get involved in anti-immigration activities. Damn, poor kids. How ashamed they'll be when they tell their own kids what grandpa is like. "Well, see, he likes to log on to websites where he can attack nationalists who he thinks aren't doing the job the right way. He likes that better than getting involved and doing things the right way himself. But don't bring that up when we see him, we're supposed to be nice to everyone on Christmas, even those who ... who not always deserve it."

No tats on their bodies, bald heads, or docs on their feet. Honor students. Football players - a family tradition, itz! Lots of young friends who have been converted to the cause. Active and Sane.

Ooooohhhhh.... *gasping in admiration again*

You are so much better than everybody else! Tell me more of how good you are, I want to know! I bet your IQ is real high too, and that your singing voice is swell. Come on, tell us, you know how interesting you are!


Quite a contrast to psychopaths who are more interested in Third Reich costumes, jewelry, tats, docs, beer, or in moronic, anti-social behavior and spending needless time in jail than in winning.

Yes, yes, that's what everybode else is like! You are right, this is the perfect excuse -- I mean, reason not to get involved in anything. Who has ever needed organized activity to change the world anyway? You are quite right, your way is better, where you tell your kids in the privacy of your home what you think. That's quite enough. And you're so modest, too. I think your superiority deserves a poem. In fact, I bet you have written one yourself, you great man you. Will you let us hear it?

Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Originally Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.


Posted by Fredrik Haerne:

Everybody here is a lonewolf? Uh-uh. But I bet you are, boy. And what do you do instead of getting organized? Bitch and moan, ya lazy bastard.


Posted by t_electric:

Changing the subject, little girl?


Posted by Fredrik Haerne:

Oh dear, did I hurt your widdle feelings? Step on your widdle toe? Go ahead and call me more splendidly innovative insults, if it makes you feel better, before you go home and cry in mommy's lap.




I see. You wanna make ME the problem to distract from those problems rightfully noted by Veritas.

Tell me: What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

Speak up, sweets, ‘cause I CAN’T HEAR YOU!




Posted by t_electric:


This forum will be like the last one - that is, filled with psychopathic "lone wolf" fucks talking "tough" in cyberspace about Amerikwa's "future meltdown" at which point they'll "swing into action" and "kill all the kikes."

Bwahahahahahaha!


Posted by Fredrik Haerne

I see you lead by example: showing us how tough you are, even to the point of daring to badmouth the board members on their own turf! Wow! And all this with no other protection than sitting anonymously behind a computer in your home! *LOL*



The fact is, you wouldn’t recognize leadership through example if it bit you on the ass. To the detriment of our cause and people you are coddling psychopaths in cyberspace who haven’t the slightest intention of changing their ways in the real world.




Posted by t_electric:

Get organized? You mean, join the "National Alliance" and litter neighborhoods or join "White Revolution" and march in front of SPLC headquarters?


Posted by Fredrik Haernes:

Ahh, don't I just love that excuse: "I won't lift a finger 'cause look, these guys are doing everything wrong. And I even found a spelling error on their website." How about helping American Renaissance then, or any other anti-immigration effort that isn't too hardcore? Ever thought about that? Uh-oh, that would mean you would actually have to do something. That's no good. Not as much fun as bitching on a message board. So you'll pick out only the organizations that you can slander as being too extreme, and ignore the many other ways you could get involved, pretend they don't exist. Bravo, boy!



Reading Is Fundamental. Next time read what I write and think about it before assuming to know my mind, falsely quoting me, and generally making an ass out of yourself. Now, let’s review what I wrote:



Posted by t_electric:

I'm employed. Happily married to the same supportive woman for decades. Father of a half-dozen fine, White children. Racial nationalists all. No tats on their bodies, bald heads, or docs on their feet. Honor students. Football players - a family tradition, itz! Lots of young friends who have been converted to the cause. Active and Sane.



Lotz of young friends. Both sexes. Intelligent, healthy, well-balanced kids. High school, college and vocational students. Athletic. Law-abiding. Good communicators. Respected. Leaders.

My kids and I have done more for our people than littering neighborhoods at night or standing in front of SPLC Headquarters for a few hours waving swazi flags will ever do! This is real leadership with measurable results, sweets.

Of course this is not all we do, but the rest is none of your fucking business! Got it?

When you get your priorities straight, little girl, I'll start calling you by your given name and treating you like a White man.

Pierce said it many years ago, the majority of people attracted to White Nationalism are emotionally immature losers.

Let's have a look some of the recent WN doings:

1) Alex -the great WN "wit"- Linder, hooked up with one Bill - I used to be a commie but now I'm a WN - White. Together these two geniuses tried to take over the National Alliance by chanting the following magical incantation: Kevin Strom is a weenie, Kevin Strom is a weenie -- ad nauseam. Such shrewd and brilliant political operators. I, for one, would be willing to follow such "leaders" to the ends of the earth, that's how much confidence they've inspired in me. I'm not a member of the NA, and maybe they need to clean house, but this attempted coup d'etat was pathetic in the extreme.

Let's not forget the brilliant business model of "Shop White". Yes, Alex and Bill's excellent adventure into big business -- eBay was going to be sent scampering away with its tail between its legs. Oh wait, "Shop White" was "hacked". Any of you dim-bulbs who were moronic enough to join had your name and credit card info go to "who-knows-where". Suckers.

Oh, let's not forget Ally-Waly's regular rants against women.

The above behavior of Alex - Mr. Smarty-Pants - Linder can be explained by one of the following:

Alex is a moron.
Alex is provocateur in the employ of ZOG.
Alex is a jew.


But since its been revealed that Alex is an unemployed, bankrupt, unmarried, mid-aged man who spends his days in his grandmother's basement where he commands an imaginary White Viacom, I'll guess that he's just a moron.

2) Then there's "Mark - I'm-spending-my-thrust-fund-like-the-Taliban-are-in-Staten Island - Moran. This guy wrote in to VNN using his real name and then attempted to get a seat on his town council. How "shocked, shocked" he was when he was "outed". Mr. Trust Fund Tough-Guy reacted by saying "National what? Alex who? RUN AWAAYYYY!!!".

3) Hal Turner. The "Genius Hal" program goes something like this: Fuck, shit, nigger, kike. I think I'm having a heart attack. Send money."

4) If you don't like Weird Hal, you have an alternative with Von Bluvens. His show is much different than Hal's. It goes like this. "Hal Turner is a money begging asshole. Fuck, shit, nigger, kike. I have to hide all summer because the space aliens are after me. Send money."

5) Stormfront, the nice racists. No bad words over there, just nice racists dreaming about how they will all be great Aryan Warriors -- after the collapse comes of course. I'll bet dollars to dough-nuts (the operative word being dough-nuts) that the majority of the great "Aryan Warriors" are fat-asses that have never been in a fist fight.

6) Kievesky/Freeman or whatever personality is in control today. His idea of offing ZOG is that we all should travel back in time to the 15th century and become peasants. Smart move Sibel. You may have noticed that Russia was a peasant society in 1917 when Izzy took over -- and he's been mopping the floor with the peasants ever since -- when he's not whoring out their women.

7) Bob DeMarais. The good Doctor thinks that he can do in ZOG by putting out a racist version of True Detective magazine. Brilliant idea Doc, just what the WN movement needs: one more slick to help us along in the big WN circle jerk.

8) Some dumb shit that watches too many Spaghetti Westerns and thinks that all the world's problems could be solved if "we just believed in the magic of gold".

I could go on but I think you all get the picture. Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.

This is going to be my only post here, so flame away. I will not respond.


what a scathing attack by a troll fishing for the gullible goyims.

what a scathing attack by a troll fishing for the gullible goyims.


Before accusing Veritas of fishing for gullible goyim, please state the number of psychologically-healthy converts to White nationalism you have made in the past year. Inquiring minds want to know.

Still, why can't 200 million Aryans outsmart and defeat even 10 or 15 million Jews without resorting to knocking over the gameboard in frustration by attempting to instigate a "revolution" in which we kill off our "enemies", and probably destroy our civilization in the process?
Good point. Even more depressing, half of all Jews are Sephardic. The Sephardic Jews (non-European) are not more intelligent than white gentiles. The Seph. Jews have about the same average intelligence as the Arabs.

It is only the Ashkenazi (European Jews) that have a higher above average intelligence. The Ashkenazim makes up the majority of the dispora.

All forum members who do not realize that this thread's original poster has predictably and boorishly reincarnated himself as yet another [troll] within this thread, kindly respond by raising one hoof, and bleating.

All forum members who do not realize that this thread's original poster has predictably and boorishly reincarnated himself as yet another [troll] within this thread, kindly respond by raising one hoof, and bleating.


Eyep...same moron who posted on the last VNN forum as Uncle Fester. Same dull unimaginative writing. Same criticisms of WN's with no other alternatives but to marry some toothless skank and plop out a dozen or so halfwit kids. Impressive, ITS!

Eyep...same moron who posted on the last VNN forum as Uncle Fester. Same dull unimaginative writing. Same criticisms of WN's with no other alternatives but to marry some toothless skank and plop out a dozen or so halfwit kids. Impressive, ITS!

If that's true, then why not ask Alex to compare ISPs?

I'll tell you why you haven't: Because you're wrong and itz easier to suggest that I am "Veritas" or "Uncle Fester" than it is to face up to what I'm saying.

This type of smear is typical of pierced, tat-wearing, beer-guzzling "lone wolves" who fantasize about the "end times" when they'll "spring into action" and "kill all the kikes."

Bwahahahaha!

Tell you what: Just go on believing in that shit. And while you're at it, advance our people's interests by purchasing another pair of Docs.

btttt.

By the way, on the last board I was Go_Vnn. ;)

...Methinks he doth protest... TOO MUCH!
(ISPs are a dime a dozen.)

...Methinks he doth protest... TOO MUCH!
(ISPs are a dime a dozen.)

Cant we all just get along??????????????????????????????? :D

When the game has gone as badly wrong as this one has, the only thing to do is to knock the board over. This late in the day, I'm surprised that anyone would advocate a measured, middle-class approach.

Not only is the economy falling apart, it is enfeudating. Increasingly, people need a sponser (an HMO, a top thirty law firm, government, etc.) in order to live a middle class existance. These types will eat any amount of crap to preserve what they have. They've proven it time and time again.

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


I agree. I think what is necessary first is a coherent ideology that people can apply in the mainstream. NA and Stormfront don't offer it; they offer a clubhouse for abused children.

Obviously, I have my own suggestions for this coherent ideology, but I am sure there are multiple ways to approach a sensible target. I would also not claim the Jews are "adults"; I think they're like any other parasitic religion, fanatical, and it's to their advantage. However, they do act in the real world, unlike almost any WNs.

"A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another."

-- Mao Zedong

He has a point you know.

I don't believe "revolution" is a worthwhile goal. The original poster was correct when he said to dominate society from within. After all, that's how Hitler did it, and Mussolini.

My kids and I have done more for our people than littering neighborhoods at night or standing in front of SPLC Headquarters for a few hours waving swazi flags will ever do! This is real leadership with measurable results, sweets.


I don't agree with this. It takes multiple approaches and different kinds of people to make something work. What your posts have contributed that is worthwhile is critique of the clubhouse mentality at work in WN/WP circles, but the rest of what you post seems to be a justification for comfy living. Are you an elected politician?

The pessimist in me demurs, Roy. South Africa's remaining whites don't appear to be putting up any organized resistance to the institutional corruption black rule has brought to their country. White South Africans are in a much worse position than white Americans, yet they don't seem to be undergoing a racial awakening.

And just imagine what would happen if they DID undergo such an awakening and actually develop a formidable resistance to black tyranny. The minute whites began to successfully revolt the jew media would be all over the "white racist terrorists" who "hate SA's hardwon freedom and democracy." How close would whites have to get to taking back SA before the US and UN sent in troops to do to them the same basic thing they did to Germany?

The situation for whites all over the world is really bad. We scramble for ideas of how to wake whites up, how to summon the courage and strategies to take our nations back. We tend to assume that *that* is the whole battle and once momentum is gotten we're home free. The horrific lesson of Nazi Germany, however, is that even if you are inches from the brass ring the rest of the world may very well conspire to crush you -- no matter how just, focused, organized and diligent your cause and men.

I mean think about it: Germany WON! Hitler rescued Germany from the jews. The economy was booming. The people -- all white people -- were race conscious and proud and, despite the media lies, FREE. Germany actually achieved what we only dream about. But the defeated and banished jews rounded up a hit squad to go back and level the place.

The single most compelling argument in favor of Alex Linder's permanent, "vertical" solution is that getting jews out of your sight and off your land does NOT mean they are out of your hair. They do not accept defeat and move on. They conspire and organize revenge and apparently there is always an army for sale somewhere.

How repugnant it is to think how Germans were enjoying their jew-free present and looking forward to the bright white, jew-free future awaiting them after the war -- and then America and England come in as kike mercenaries and fuck it all up.

>>>So you have two choices, one is to abandon ship or you help your racial brother & sister out of the foxhole and aid the fight, live or die. Fredrik Haerne also brings up the point what folks like you always do when shitting on everyone in sight. Never do you give a viable alternative. And say what you like, but VNN is the only goddam thing ANYWHERE that has a pulse.<<<

I fully agree, John. I never cease to be amazed at the White folks who pretend to know war has been declared on them, who still think they can make a difference at the polls, or joining some goddamned committee. Let me tell you how it really is folks: 150 million people could write their Congressmen today and oppose the massive turd world immigration assaulting their country, and it wouldn't slow up one single Mexishit from crossing the border. Get it???

The fact is, White man, you're no longer in control of your country, and it won't be regained at the damn polls or through joining some committee to "work through the system." There is no "system" which works for you, and there never will be until you take back the nation your forefathers put together for you. It's as simple as that.
Your Constitution which your founders designed to protect you from this tyranny is a shambles, due to the apathy of you and your predecessors. It's too late to correct it at the polls or by joining some ridiculous committee.
Every man who ever wore a uniform for this country has never taken an oath to support your illegitimate government. Rather, he took an oath to defend your CONSTITUTION! Show me anywhere in that Constitution where it says "separation of church and state." Show me anywhere it says you can't fix a bayonet on the end of a rifle. Show me anywhere it says "hate speech" is different from any other speech.
So, why do we have these laws? Answer: Because too many traitorous judges, politicians and jews sleep too peacefully at night! That's why, girls and boys!
As long as you continue to finance your own demise you can look for more of the same, but the solution is REVOLUTION, beginning with a national TAX REVOLT.

Fredrik,

Note that I said South Africa's remaining whites, i.e., the ones who haven't already left the country. The whites I'm talking about are the ones who don't have the money to move to Australia or wherever--why don't they secede or put up some kind of organized resistance or something?

The ZOG would never allow them to win, just like the Serbs weren't allowed to throw out the Albanians, most of which had entered Kosovo illegally. Evil White racists taking up arms against the noble democratic state? U.S. forces would be sent there to help the poor Negroes against the "Nazi-like aggression -- it's happening all over again!" quicker than you can say NYT editorial.

The US probably wouldn't send in troops. Another military escape at this juncture would be politically untenable for the Bush administration.

You want South Africans to bet their lives on an assumption like that? First, it takes a long time to build any form of resistance movement, make people join it, make plans.... They can't just launch something as soon as they see that hey, maybe the situation in the U.S. these past few months allows us to do something.

It's very easy to be an armchair general and tell the South Africans they should fight to the death ... fight an army with much more members than they can hope to muster, an army that has prepared for this eventuality, and is probably hoping for it....

Second, what better way for Bush to make the media bosses support him one hundred percent in the next election than to defeat racist White rebels in South Africa? White racists taking to arms -- that's what the Jews hate more than anything in the world. It would outweigh their hatred for al Qaeda a hundred times, even if those Whites wouldn't threaten any of the Jews in SA.

I see t_e has set aside this special time to make an ass of himself. *BG*

I see. You wanna make ME the problem to distract from those problems rightfully noted by Veritas.

Oh, you are rightfully addressing problems? I thought you were simply trying to insult people as much as possible. I mean, come on, think anybody is impressed by your "I-hate-you-all-but-won't-suggest-anything-myself!"?

And you can't have it both ways. You keep praising yourself, but as soon as anyone takes you up on it and starts talking about you, you say you are not the topic? How convenient.

Tell me: What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

Why should I bother? You're just spewing shit on people at this forum, and that has nothing to do with the skinheads.

Speak up, sweets, ‘cause I CAN’T HEAR YOU!

Now people, see what happens when the emotionally disturbed are allowed to use computers. electric/Veritas/whatever can't even wait until he has finished his post before he starts shouting for an answer to it. However, although sanity and social skills aren't counted among his strengths, we must always remember that neither cannon fodder nor useful idiots need table manners to carry out their duties.

The fact is, you wouldn’t recognize leadership through example if it bit you on the ass.

We note again how he builds his own reality here, prefers to live in his own assumptions. Also, think of how quickly he becomes agitated -- in fact, he was using a nutty and aggressive tone in his very first post, when noone had attacked him. But again, I urge you to remember that even the misfits may have their uses.

To the detriment of our cause and people you are coddling psychopaths in cyberspace who haven’t the slightest intention of changing their ways in the real world.

t_electric, doesn't it concern you in the least that the board hasn't even been up for a week, and you don't know at all what the people here do or how they live? You attach your prejudices to all forum members right from the beginning, and expect to be taken seriously?

Hasn't it ever occurred to you that the skinheads you hate with such intensity probably aren't very keen on chatting in internet forums? So most likely extremely few of those who will use this forum are going to fit your stereotype.

Perhaps you should go and find some skinheads and tell them to their face how you hate them for not being as enlightened and great as you are.

Reading Is Fundamental. Next time read what I write and think about it before assuming to know my mind, falsely quoting me, and generally making an ass out of yourself.

This is just too frantic to comment....

Lotz of young friends.

So much better than old friends?

Both sexes. Intelligent, healthy, well-balanced kids. High school, college and vocational students. Athletic. Law-abiding. Good communicators. Respected. Leaders.

Ooohhhh! You are the idol of everyone! Nobody has those things except for you! Let's hear you brag about it some more, as you so well deserve. Of course you will impress anyone who reads your praise of yourself. :cool:

I don't know if you are aware of this, but bragging about yourself on the internet won't give you the admirers you desire, be it in a chatroom or a forum. People will just think you're a pompous ass.

My kids and I have done more for our people than littering neighborhoods at night or standing in front of SPLC Headquarters for a few hours waving swazi flags will ever do!

Again, t_electric, you simply attach to the forum members your own prejudices. You want them to be the kind of people who do those things you hate, so you will have someone to swear at anonymously. Perhaps you could have started out by asking people "Who among you have handed out pamphlets?" so you would know how many hate objects you have here. Did you do that? No.

This is real leadership with measurable results, sweets.

*LOL* Your insults so get to me.

Of course this is not all we do, but the rest is none of your fucking business! Got it?

Oh, this is just too easy. "I want praise, I'm telling you all I'm so much better than you! But ... I won't tell you what I do that makes me so much better! And I won't ask you first what you have done, so I'll know if I'm right about you or not."

When you get your priorities straight, little girl, I'll start calling you by your given name and treating you like a White man.

Again that same excessive focus on your own self-worth. Why would I care if you use my name or not? Do you think you're important to anyone online? Get real. :rolleyes:

Haerne apparently thinks that just because someone isn't interested in joining a marginal group and getting an FBI file that they're unwilling to do anything.

Ummm, no. But if you reread his post, you will note that he didn't write about being involved in any organized activity (which he is now hinting at being in his last post), and he didn't write any suggestions for what he thinks people should do. He just wanted to throw some shit around.

I realize English isn't his first language, but if he keeps interpreting posts this way, people will start thinking it's ebonics.

Ohhh, hitting me where it hurts, my language skills! Arrrgh! :eek:

he didn't write any suggestions for what he thinks people should do. He just wanted to throw some shit around.


So if someone tells you what not to do, but doesn't tell you what you should do, it's worthless?

So if your mother says to you "Don't touch the stove, it's hot." You'd call her a stupid bitch because she didn't make any suggestions for what you should do. All she told you is what to avoid, she didn't tell you what to do. Dumb bitch!

Originally Posted by t_electric:

My kids and I have done more for our people than littering neighborhoods at night or standing in front of SPLC Headquarters for a few hours waving swazi flags will ever do! This is real leadership with measurable results, sweets.

Posted by Craig Smith:

I don't agree with this. It takes multiple approaches and different kinds of people to make something work. What your posts have contributed that is worthwhile is critique of the clubhouse mentality at work in WN/WP circles, but the rest of what you post seems to be a justification for comfy living. Are you an elected politician?




I have no problem with a different approach if it is effective. Waving swazi flags in front of SPLC Headquarters is not effective. Littering neighborhoods with National Alliance literature is not effective. "Lone Wolfism" is not effective. Tats are not effective. Piercings are not effective. Third Reich costumes are not effective. Dysfunctional, anti-social, nigger-like behavior is not effective. Common sense and a consistent track record of failure to win the hearts and minds of our people are all I or anybody needs to establish these facts.


Anybody who interprets my approach strictly as a way to maintain a comfortable lifestyle not only errs greatly, but is attempting to justify his own, failed approach. I grew up in rural poverty in south Missouri, am self-educated, a former jarhead and am lower-middle class. Everything owned by us has been worked for and maintained by us. No yuppie sonsofbitches, here. The fact is, my family’s security and long-term welfare are risked daily by our local commitment to the cause. That we have not been seriously harmed is due, I think, to our approach. Now folks can accept my word on that score or not, as it makes little difference to me personally. However, the failure to accept my word or at the very least, to seriously think about it indicates a fear of constructive-change and a less-than-full commitment to the cause. Frankly, I have zero patience with losers who elevate their ego over the movement’s best interests.

I am not a politician, but will be following our return to southern Missouri.

Originally Posted by Max_Power

Haerne apparently thinks that just because someone isn't interested in joining a marginal group and getting an FBI file that they're unwilling to do anything.


Posted by Fredrika Haerne:

Ummm, no. But if you reread his post, you will note that he didn't write about being involved in any organized activity (which he is now hinting at being in his last post), and he didn't write any suggestions for what he thinks people should do. He just wanted to throw some shit around.




Hello again, sweetie.

I’d really like to think that "Max Power" is right - that is, your incomprehension is due to language difficulties. But this is not the case since you have discerned that I do participate in organized activities. Of course, by stating that I have hinted at it you imply that there is something sinister about doing so. So why not come out and call me a Kike, a troll, or a Kike troll? That is what you think, right? Clearly there are some ignoramouses on this board who do. So, why not come out and state it?

btttttt.

My family is the nucleus of a larger "unofficial" organization comprised of immediate kin and an ever increasing number of friends in our community.

So, what do friends and family do? They hang out together. They talk to one another. They engage in organized activities together.

To expand their circle, they do things which allow them to identify others of near or similar interests, concerns, and mentalities.

What kind of things?

Well, they can join and participate in "official" organizations or community activities: the local Scouts, Rocket clubs, gun clubs, play sports, etc.

Or, they can start or join an "unofficial" organization and do the same things. And they can look for opportunities to increase community goodwill.

Taking a tip from Vibeke Ostergaard from the old Polinco forum, for example, my younger sons and their friends repaired the plumbing and painted the homes of two elderly White women this past summer - at cost, I should add. Of course, I was the unlicensed contractor. The family of one of these women was VERY appreciative. And the neighbors of BOTH women were VERY interested. Discussions ensued, certain light topics broached, and Goodwill was generated.

My kids can do no wrong in the eyes of these folks. And this is southern California - filled with some of the most superficial, egotistical, yuppified, sycophantic White sonsofbitches in the entire Jew S of A!

I could go on with other examples, but even a little girl who loves her tattoos should get the picture.

One's family/friends/neighbors are one's primary organization.

This is going to be my only post here It shouldn't be, man. That was good stuff.

Is this guy for real? *L*

Hello again, sweetie.

See how he can't stay away from insults in every other sentence, like a compulsion. And he claims he is more mature than others on this forum. Yeah, right!

I’d really like to think that "Max Power" is right - that is, your incomprehension is due to language difficulties. But this is not the case since you have discerned that I do participate in organized activities.

Ah, poor guy. You really don't know how to communicate with people, t_e. As I so clearly state in my post, you did not write that you were organized in your first post. But you did in your latest. And now you say that I'm lying about you, that I'm claiming to not know that you are organized even though I revealed that I knew you were. Yeeesh. I wrote that I didn't hear anything about that from you at first, only later. Time perspective, please.


Of course, by stating that I have hinted at it you imply that there is something sinister about doing so.

Paranoid freak. :p

So why not come out and call me a Kike, a troll, or a Kike troll? That is what you think, right? Clearly there are some ignoramouses on this board who do. So, why not come out and state it?

btttttt.

Again, this guy obviously sucks at communicating with others. And he claims he knows how WNs should act to recruit! So far, he remains the number one example of how to fail Rhetoric 101.

t_e, a few pointers:

Don't start out by telling your audience they are all lowlives fitting your personal stereotypes

Don't boast of how superior you are

Try to remain calm. Now, I know that if you're a beginner you may be unaware of that the anonymity on the internet often brings out the worst in people, and that you have to guard yourself against that. In the future, try to think of it, or people will just think you're a weirdo wherever you post or chat.

My family is the nucleus of a larger "unofficial" organization comprised of immediate kin and an ever increasing number of friends in our community.

Aha, so I take it you're not helping out in any organization. How disappointing. Even sending money to, say, Patty Buchannan's magazine would help Whites more than just talking with friends and family and imagine that you're accomplishing something that way.

I have a friend just like you. I keep asking him to get involved, but he says no organization is worthy of his participation, and then he gives me the usual "I'm talking to people in private." Do Blacks just talk to each other in private, or do they have the NAACP? Do Jews just tell people in private how great Israel is, or do they have organizations and lobby groups?

So, what do friends and family do? They hang out together. They talk to one another. They engage in organized activities together.

Nooo, get out of here! I had no idea!


Taking a tip from Vibeke Ostergaard from the old Polinco forum, for example, my younger sons and their friends repaired the plumbing and painted the homes of two elderly White women this past summer - at cost, I should add. Of course, I was the unlicensed contractor. The family of one of these women was VERY appreciative. And the neighbors of BOTH women were VERY interested. Discussions ensued, certain light topics broached, and Goodwill was generated.

t_e, that is all well and good, but what you're telling me is that you not even reach first base so to speak in activism. Getting on people's good side and then talking to them about nationalist matters should lead to asking them to get their asses off the couch and help out in an organization, which should arrange demonstrations and lobby politicians, and preferably get into elections. The way other races in the U.S. have done it.

I could go on with other examples, but even a little girl who loves her tattoos should get the picture.

*LOL* Sounds almost like Tourette's syndrom. Hey, I have to disappoint you: I don't have any tattoos, earrings, or Doc Martens. In fact, I don't fit into your prejudices at all. You just assume that I do, because that's what's convenient for you.

One's family/friends/neighbors are one's primary organization.

Yes, that's right, rationalize your cowardice and laziness. Because all those who are activists are just skinheads anyway, right?

Fredrika Hanes refuses to answer the original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

Ah, Hell…I’ll make it easier:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) compared to, say, the general White population?

Still too hard? Okay, I'll make it REAL frickin' easy:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed compared to, say, the general White population?


Another question for Ms. Hanes:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?




Reference:



Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.

t_e, that is all well and good, but what you're telling me is that you not even reach first base so to speak in activism. Getting on people's good side and then talking to them about nationalist matters should lead to asking them to get their asses off the couch and help out in an organization, which should arrange demonstrations and lobby politicians, and preferably get into elections. The way other races in the U.S. have done it.




Before critiquing my approach and presuming to tell ME what IS or IS NOT "first base," answer the original question:


What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?




And answer this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?




Reference:



Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.

Yep, this guy must be a beginner when it comes to debating. We observe:

Fredrika Hanes refuses to answer the original question:

He tries to present himself as superior, more refined, and pictures the other users of this forum as "swazi-waving" etc, etc. Yet he immediately makes himself the most child-like, flaming poster when meets opposition.

Don't know why I bother to reply, but hey, it's fun. Let's see how far we can take him. And I'm seriously starting to doubt his claim of being a super-duper organizer of swooned friends and relatives ... he is far from the qualities real leaders display even through their internet communication.


t_e, I believe the average skinhead, your hate object, has a way higher level of decency than you in debates. If you had tried to appear mature you might have had some effect with your words, but as it is ... every other forum member shows a higher grade of maturity. The forum members you accuse of being so inferior to you. Uh-oh.

My socially challenged friend, there is no "original question," as you well know. You started off by being an asshole, and I simply noted that you were. Now you are trying to get away from that, pretending that your "original question" was the point of the discussion. So again, as in all your posts, you show us how you are the center of your universe, how only what you say and ask and think is important. *yawn*

I note that you didn't dare comment on anything I wrote in my last post. Then again, it's not surprising. :)


And answer this question:

Uhh, hate to break it to you, but giving orders on an internet forum makes you look rather ridiculous. Sorry, man. But tell you what: take some time to boast to your wife about how great you are, and you may get the attention you desire. (or maybe she'll just nod to make you shut up)

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

As if I had ever said that lone wolfing is a good way to recruit. Just the opposite, t_e: I have repeatedly stated that I consider your level of ... ahem, "activism" ... to be severely lacking. What, then, are the chances that I would think chatting online would be a better way of recruiting? Now, I'm not saying that chatting with people offline and online wouldn't have any results at all, but much more is needed.

Yep, this guy must be a beginner when it comes to debating. We observe:

He tries to present himself as superior, more refined, and pictures the other users of this forum as "swazi-waving" etc, etc. Yet he immediately makes himself the most child-like, flaming poster when meets opposition.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


Don't know why I bother to reply, but hey, it's fun.


btttttt.


Let's see how far we can take him. And I'm seriously starting to doubt his claim of being a super-duper organizer of swooned friends and relatives ... he is far from the qualities real leaders display even through their internet communication.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


t_e, I believe the average skinhead, your hate object [...]


[...] hate object.


[...] has a way higher level of decency than you in debates.[/b]


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


If you had tried to appear mature you might have had some effect with your words, but as it is ... every other forum member shows a higher grade of maturity. The forum members you accuse of being so inferior to you. Uh-oh.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


My socially challenged friend, there is no "original question," as you well know.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


You started off by being an asshole, and I simply noted that you were.


Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.


Posted by Fredrik Haerne:

Everybody here is a lonewolf? Uh-uh. But I bet you are, boy. And what do you do instead of getting organized? Bitch and moan, ya lazy bastard.



Now you are trying to get away from that, pretending that your "original question" was the point of the discussion. So again, as in all your posts, you show us how you are the center of your universe, how only what you say and ask and think is important. *yawn*


Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.


I note that you didn't dare comment on anything I wrote in my last post. Then again, it's not surprising. :)


Originally Posted by Veritas:

Look kiddies, it's time to get real jobs, build up real business, make white babies, get elected to local school boards and town councils, buy off politicians, etc. All this requires that you stop you bullshit fantasies and start living like real people. The jews are a vicious bunch of liars, thieves, murderers and perverts but at least they are adults. They know what they want and how to go about getting it. It's time you all did likewise.


Posted by t_electric:

Excellent point.

Will it make an impression?

No, not to a forum comprised of cyber "warriors" harboring "lone wolf" fantasies.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


Uhh, hate to break it to you, but giving orders on an internet forum makes you look rather ridiculous. Sorry, man. But tell you what: take some time to boast to your wife about how great you are, and you may get the attention you desire. (or maybe she'll just nod to make you shut up)


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


As if I had ever said that lone wolfing is a good way to recruit. Just the opposite, t_e: I have repeatedly stated that I consider your level of ... ahem, "activism" ... to be severely lacking.


The original question:

What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, swazi-waving, Reich-costumed, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

And this question:

What percentage of “lone wolf cyber-warriors” have recruited Five or more Whites to the cause in the past two years?

Four Whites?

Three Whites?

Two Whites?

One White?


What, then, are the chances that I would think chatting online would be a better way of recruiting? Now, I'm not saying that chatting with people offline and online wouldn't have any results at all, but much more is needed.

btttttttt


Answer the frickin' questions!

Repeating the question won't do any good, as there are no statistics to answer it.

I am no fan of the old-guard, hide-in-the-basement and collect weapons types, but I'm also familiar with the California type alpha male, who has a need to affirm his superiority.

While I agree with t_electric on most points, I think he has started to sully the good ideas he presented earlier by fitting into this stereotype. "I am right, goddamnit, bow before me!"

The fact is that once again both of you are behaving like gutter fighters and not thinkers. This isn't a slam on either of you - it can happen to anyone. It even happened to Arthur Schopenhauer.

However, it's time to move on. Bashing skinheads is as unproductive as screaming about negroes. Organized movements need be found; it is my opinion they will not be of the negative-logic Natvan/Stormfront type, but will be of a positive-logic, embrace-white-culture type.

It's a harder thing to accept that one must work building white culture and cannot take direction action, but it's the fairest position. What are you going to do, murder all the negroes in north america? Your people still don't understand why you would do that, and you will only generate more negative publicity.

Drop the extremism, and take up the cause, but as we see here, don't do it for your own ego. Do it for your own and your communal success.

Repeating the question won't do any good, as there are no statistics to answer it.

That is because the sample size of drug-free, married skinz who have remained continuously-employed and have raised children to adulthood with the same woman is too small to make a valid comparison with the general White population. Thus the default answer in the "popular mind" is 0.


I am no fan of the old-guard, hide-in-the-basement and collect weapons types, but I'm also familiar with the California type alpha male, who has a need to affirm his superiority.

Yes, I am an alpha male and I presently reside in southern California. I am hardly the "California-type," however, since results - not words or other superficial bullshit - are all I require for affirmation.

While I agree with t_electric on most points, I think he has started to sully the good ideas he presented earlier by fitting into this stereotype. "I am right, goddamnit, bow before me!"

I don’t coddle anybody including myself who elevates ego over winning. Fredrika Hanes, however, does. He coddles the superficial, fragile egos and socially dysfunctional behavior of skinz and cyber-"lone wolves" by attacking and failing to address the legitimate issues raised by Veritas. He considers this to be "leadership."

The fact is that once again both of you are behaving like gutter fighters and not thinkers. This isn't a slam on either of you - it can happen to anyone. It even happened to Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Mean" drill instructors balance the "nice" ones.

However, it's time to move on. Bashing skinheads is as unproductive as screaming about negroes. Organized movements need be found; it is my opinion they will not be of the negative-logic Natvan/Stormfront type, but will be of a positive-logic, embrace-white-culture type.

Do you actually believe that dysfunctional hobbyists posting threads entitled "Vertical solution" with pics of skeletons in trenches and Third Reich symbols will attract American positive-logic, white-culture types?

I don’t think you do.

It's a harder thing to accept that one must work building white culture and cannot take direction action, but it's the fairest position. What are you going to do, murder all the negroes in north america? Your people still don't understand why you would do that, and you will only generate more negative publicity.

For five years I’ve noted the coddling, the unwillingness to "offend" the sensibilities of hobbyists and thugs. Even The Great Dr. Pierce subtly encouraged their behavior for the zogbucks. Bullshit. White community cannot be built when hobbyists and dysfunctional thugs set us back two paces for every pace forward. A genuine leader would have put movement over ego/zogbucks and told them to get with the frickin’ program or feel this boot. Itz that simple.

Drop the extremism, and take up the cause, but as we see here, don't do it for your own ego. Do it for your own and your communal success.

I’ll leave VNN's forum alone and continue with my own work.

While I agree with t_electric on most points, I think he has started to sully the good ideas he presented earlier by fitting into this stereotype. "I am right, goddamnit, bow before me!"

*S* How long did it take you to see that? I am just playing with him a bit. Also, I want a thread to point to the next time someone tries to excuse inactivity with the all-too-familiar snobbery of "no existing party or organization is worthy of my membership." The obvious reply to which is, of course, that a group of people is shaped by its members, and if you don't like the way it looks, join and change it.

Denmark has stopped the dark tide now. The nationalists are preparing legislation to throw out the non-White parasites. They got where they are not by talking to friends in hushed tones every now and then, but by organizing a party and changing politics.

Then again, real activism is for real men. Not for those who think they are too superior to dirty their hands with real work. And especially not for those who prove themselves to be anti-social lunatics, as t_electric has done so satisfyingly now. Thus this thread has become useful. :D

Hi y'all. Hey Fredrik - I'm American and don't belong to any organizations. I don't know of any to belong to except the NA, and as I am entirely on Herr Linder's side in this, I don't see any point in joining them. I give what money I can afford to those I admire (Herr Linder, Ernst Zundel) and talk to my friends and acquaintances and those I work with - sometimes finding out that persons who I assumed where either on the other side or brainwashed and unaware, actually have many of the same views that I do. And I do what I can (covertly) in my job, which involves dealing with lots of young (18 - early 20s) folk.
I am trying to learn how to protect myself (just got a shotgun), growing much more of my own food that I did in the past, getting out of the jew economy as much as possible. I'm doing all the things that people here, and on VNN, have suggested that make sense to me in helping to undercut the totalitarian dictatorship under which we all live, and to get as ready as I can for whatever it is that may be coming. I would join a white party in a second, but there is no such animal, at least not yet.

I want to do everything I can do to help, and also to survive, but .....what?

As always, I really like your posts. What a terrific writer and what poise.

How long did it take you to see that?

Denmark has stopped the dark tide now. The nationalists are preparing legislation to throw out the non-White parasites. They got where they are not by talking to friends in hushed tones every now and then, but by organizing a party and changing politics.


I would like to see you write more of these ideas in essays, and less on bulletin board posts, which will be gone the next time VNN has a crisis, is hacked, etc.

Do you actually believe that dysfunctional hobbyists posting threads entitled "Vertical solution" with pics of skeletons in trenches and Third Reich symbols will attract American positive-logic, white-culture types?

I don’t think you do.


If you've read my postings here, or the organization for which I work, you know where I stand on this issue.

Hard work: Strength through joy


Whites will fight back their racial destruction only when they have their backs up aganist the wall.

Doesn't matter about any charasmatic leader or how tough or decent the skinheads are.
All the WN debate about what is best for the 'movement' is all bullshit.

They will 'awaken' when they feel like it....

I thought I knew who telectric was.
Strength through joy is only for the Germans.

Im a VNN kid
the world suffers greatly
from what the Jews did

So to breed the Master race
I am on a hunt
But I won't look for a wife
on Spermfront

Because they are dirty, skanky
beer guzzlin' ho's
that get passed around like a bad cold
at white power shows!

They won't cook or clean
and they are ugly and mean
etc........ :D

Strength through joy is only for the Germans.[/QUOTE]


After the martyrdom inflicted on Germany by the kikes and their American and Brit stooges, all decent people are German. We are all German.

Max Power: Okay, I understand what you mean about South Africa. Well, the Whites there are leaving the country, and that's one form of resistance. It is good to have them around in the West. I recall that les pieds noirs, the Black Feet, the French who ruled Algeria, became the first platform for the Front National when they were forced to flee to France after Algeria was given up. Even today support for the Front is strong in southern France because of the White immigrants who had experienced race war firsthand.

The Afrikander leaving South Africa -- I think that's for the best. The country is greatly hurt by it, and no amount of money sucked out of the West and given to the Blacks will change the slide toward limbo. And of course, when the country that once was an economic powerhouse dies, all of Africa will suffer from it. And our points will be proven.¨

I hope the Afrikander will go mainly to Britain and Australia, the nationalists there could sure use their support.

I was being jocular. You're a good writer.

Okay, got it. It is not always easy to discern what is a joke and what is not through a message board, especially not in a debate.

Veritas' rant that started this thread reminds me of those lame jew comics from the Catskills who can't make it in LasVegas.

I proclaim him the "Shecky Green of VNN".

All else will probably fail

Poop Head!

Yes! Exactly.

I knew you'd agree.

Guess I was wrong. Dysfunctional, unemployed, tattoo-bearing "White Nationalists" of unknown/ambiguous marital status/history have run for political office! Strange how nobody pointed this out:


Neo-Nazi running for city council seat arrested
Published "Saturday
The Associated Press

http://media.kxly.com/stories/images/2003NOV/ZACHBECK.jpg

HAYDEN, Idaho (AP) - A member of a neo-Nazi group who is running for city council was arrested following a confrontation in which a man allegedly was punched after saying he was Mexican, police said.

Aryan Nations member Zachary L. Beck, 24, was arrested Friday by Kootenai County deputies on suspicion of malicious harassment. No bail had been set Saturday for Beck, who was scheduled to appear in court Monday.

The alleged victim, John A. Albright, told police he was in a parking lot outside an Albertsons grocery store when a silver Ford pickup pulled up next to him.

Albright, 20, said two white men wearing dark jackets with Aryan Nations insignia approached him, pointing to a sticker of a Mexican flag on the window of Albright's vehicle.

One of the men asked if he was Mexican, Albright told police, and when he answered yes the man swung at him, grazing Albright's chin.

[Grazing? Merely GRAZING Albright’s chin??? And no follow up???? I am ashamed! Grazing is not REAL activism. Grazing is LAZINESS, pure and frickin' simple!- t]

According to a police report, the second man tried to enter Albright's vehicle as the other warned, "You better watch yourself, we know your car and you better get out of town."

Authorities identified the truck as Beck's, and contacted him at the home of Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler, who is running for mayor of Hayden, a northern Idaho town of about 9,000. Beck surrendered and was taken into custody.

Police did not say whether they thought Beck was the man who hit Albright, and it was unclear whether the other man was arrested or cited. The investigation was continuing, authorities said.

"I wasn't there, I didn't see it," Butler said Saturday. "I have no personal knowledge of it; so I have no comment."

On Tuesday, voters will choose between Mayor Ronald MacIntyre and Butler, who led the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations organization until 2000, when a civil lawsuit forced the confiscation of his rural compound.

Butler has said he doesn't intend to win, but has used the election as a platform to spread his message.

http://www.beaufortgazette.com/24hour/nation/story/1042233p-7322022c.html

---

Bond set for Aryan Nations city council candidate

"Beck lives with Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler, who is running for Hayden mayor on Tuesday's ballot. Another Aryan Nations follower, City Council candidate Karl Gharst, also is on Tuesday's ballot."

http://www.msnbc.com/local/KHQ/M336443.asp?0LA=aap9n&cp1=1

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Aryan Nations Member to Stand Trial on Malicious Harassment Charges

"Aryan Nations member and failed Hayden City Council candidate Zachary Beck will face charges of malicious harassment -- a hate crime in Idaho.

The twenty-four-year-old was arrested October 31st after allegedly attacking a Hispanic man in a grocery store parking lot.

Alleged victim 20-year-old John Albright says Beck punched him in the face after asking him if he was Mexican."

http://www.kxly.com/common/getStory.asp?id=32599

---

Aryans fare dismally in Hayden election
Nov 4, 2003, 17:46

http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/uploads/butler.jpg

Three members of the Aryan Nations, including founder Richard Butler, 85, who ran for mayor, sought seats in Hayden, but voters handed them a resounding rejection.

One of the candidates, Zach Beck, watched the election returns from jail, where he was ordered held on $50,000 bond for felony malicious harassment for allegedly punching a Hispanic man on the chin in the Albertson's parking lot in Hayden October 31 after asking him if he was Mexican. He's also under investigation for allegedly defacing campaign signs with Aryan decals.

In the mayoral race, Ron McIntire easily retained his seat, garnering 1,924 votes of the 2,122 votes cast. Butler got 50 votes, or just over two percent.

Beck, who ran against Chris Beck (no relation) for a seat on the city council, earned 69 votes; Chris Beck garnered 1,986 to win. The third member of Butler's camp, Karl Gharst took 42 votes in his bid for the second city council seat up for grabs; incumbent Nancy Taylor won handily with 1,236 votes. A third candidate, Roger Saterfield, garnered 771 votes.

http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/publish/printer_2582.shtml


On second thought, itz not strange: Feelings would have been hurt. For the sake of "UNITY" we must tolerate and coddle this behavior even if it is detrimental to the growth of the (non) movement.

More examples of REAL ACTIVISM here, folks. Of course this is my EGO, KNOWITALLISM, and LAZINESS "speaking." We ALL know that criticism/refusal to coddle dysfunctional behavior is NOT in the BEST INTERESTS of the (non) movement!!

http://libreopinion.com/members/tattooskins/tat27.jpg
http://libreopinion.com/members/tattooskins/tat18.jpg

Remember, folks: Unity above ALL else!!

If I could overcome my "California" alpha-male EGO, KNOWITALLISM, and LAZINESS, then I could be a REAL activist who elevates the (ambiguously defined) interests of the (non) movement over self-interest - like this fellow:

http://libreopinion.com/members/tattooskins/tattoo2/tattoo_006.jpg

A terrible visual disrespect of Our Lord, Jesus the Christ, and at this Holy Time of Year of His Birthday Celebration, too!

"Come on, come on let's work together...together we can stand- every boy girl, woman- every ma'an!"

ModDib! I hit the abuse button- you get better steward service from a pissed-off filipino on an airplane or in the psych ward than you do around here!

Exactly what I am talking about electrik, lets knock those fucking fools out of the movement.

Exactly what I am talking about electrik, lets knock those fucking fools out of the movement.


Oh, oh! You're gonna be on everybody's shitlist! ;)

Oh, oh! You're gonna be on everybody's shitlist! ;)

t_electric (or should we call you Grand Inculcator?):
I have received a report that you have been abusing our fine Aryan brothers. We do not appreciate attacks on Aryans here at VNN, and consider it to be Jewspeak. I do not wish to divide so I will give you the opportunity to clean up your act before I resort to voodoo, because that is a point from which there is no easy return man.

One Love

t_electric (or should we call you Grand Inculcator?):
I do not wish to divide so I will give you the opportunity to clean up your act before I resort to voodoo, because that is a point from which there is no easy return man.

One Love


My act doesn't need cleaning, but do the voodoo...man! :)

By the way, Can I take the chicken with me?

-Grand Inculcator

Movement afore Tats, Costumes, Piercings, Alcohol & Stupid Behavior

Mod's posts become all the more funny when you start reading them in a deep jive voice. :D

Unity above all else.

Excellent!

However, all of us have to have a serious discussion on tactics. The Nazi era is dead. Crashed and burned. Now it is time for the movement to grow up and see today's world for what it is today.

How many of you are aware that if you go forward with your program, we all will be fighting a world war for the next 100 years? That is just plain suicide. Especially when we have no white only homeland anymore.

Educate yourselves! I am willing to meet with any of you in my area to start an economic study group.

Your tattoos look lovely, so what? It is time to grow up and learn what makes a society prosperous.

http://libreopinion.com/members/tattooskins/tat18.jpg


ROTFLMWAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These motherfucker's aint German, let alone WHITE!

So many muds with identity problems.

Wait a minute............IS that Labrat in the upper right corner??????????

I think there are a lot of young aware White people out there who need guidance, and they can't always find it in their community, so they look for it on the net. Perhaps the older, wiser and more responsible racially aware White people could offer it to them?

Maybe some positive feedback and suggestions to balance out all the negative.


You're on the ball, ErikD.

The kids haven't proper guidance. Unfortunately too many "older heads" have/are exploited/exploiting the kids' problems for money. As much as I hate to admit it, Doc Pierce was in that category. The late Robert Frenz of FAEM was entirely correct to call many older, so-called leaders "Blightwingers." Fact is, many "older heads" are too afraid (or jaded) to get their hands dirty. "No skinz are worth it," say they. Old Pussies, IMO. Too pussy to say unpopular, but necessary things. Unwilling to be disliked. Unwilling to have "harsh language" directed in their general direction, much less the occasional fist. Itz easier for them to "stay above it all." Remote. Lazy. But not all "older heads" fit these categories. I don't think that I do.

Many skinz have heart, but are misled. Saw some basically good kids in D.C., on Aug 24, 2002. The youngsters in black-tees at the head of the line carrying the banner, for example, and one tall kid in particular. Yeah, the demonstration was useless but I had to go and see what there was to work with. Came back with very mixed feelings. It was obvious that many skinz were completely useless "hangers on" who should be kicked out of the (non) movement.

Itz time to separate wheat from chaff and grind the wheat into flour. Readjust attitudes and instill discipline. Not hard to do, in my opinion, when working with folks on a personal level - but that's me. Getting that idea across cyberspace, however, is more difficult.

Sometimes ya gotta gain attention with the "bad cop" routine. Judging by the number of views on this thread, I think attention's been gained. At this point I want to see who is willing to pull their heads out of their asses, put movement quality over ego and (fake) "unity," drop the non-productive b.s., and SELL ourselves to our people. The time is to do that is yesterday.

Now I figure you're a wiser head who is willing to help.

Start shooting some ideas on this thread and let's discuss them.

Umm, t_electric, didn't you say you were running away? I thought you would have made yourself a new handle by now. Are you too lazy for that? Perhaps two handles, Veritas and t_e, is enough, yes?


Guess I was wrong. Dysfunctional, unemployed, tattoo-bearing "White Nationalists" of unknown/ambiguous marital status/history have run for political office! Strange how nobody pointed this out:

*LOL* He keeps pretending that this is what the discussion was about! But in fact, it was about him acting like a shithead, saying that everybody on this forum were skinheads, dysfunctional, bla bla bla bla. Because if he can pretend that all those who organize in an effort to save our race are "skinheads" and inferior to him, then it helps inflate his sense of self-worth, giving him that good superior feeling. Also, it justifies him being a lazy coward who doesn't get involved himself. :o

Umm, t_electric, ...

[bullshit snipped]



You're irrelevant, Ms. Hanes.

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ROTFLMWAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These motherfucker's aint German, let alone WHITE!

So many muds with identity problems.

LOL which one is Gott?

That jew guy who was on our side and got the sensational interview with the Auschwitz museum director - is it David Cole? What happened to him is a good illustration of the difference between the other, and our, sides. The jews stopped Cole (if that indeed is his name). He was compelled to write a gut wrenchingly humiliating apology and recant everything that his interview proves. And none of this because of lawyers and laws and judges - but because of the force of a tight knit community.

The only reason the Germans and their European allies were able to give the kike-run world such a spectacular fight during the war is because Europeans had that same sense of cultural cohesiveness then.

We don't have cultural connections to each other and we don't have the discipline to toe the line. And we are unable to compel those who undermine our strategic objectives to shape up. We need to make those connections and acquire that discipline.

The many jewchristians who have attached themselves here, the clowns that attack Mr. Linder, or those who go on and on about that idiot Bill White, are my enemies as much as the yids are. Without them, important arguments would be clearer. All the bullshit here - and there is more of it with every CI clown and kike plant who registers - is intended to defeat our proselytizing mission to wake up as many people as possible. The jews don't waste their time, or diffuse their energies, with such baby carrying on.

We need discipline. Enough of it to police ourselves and stay with what is important. And we need education so as to reclaim our cultural heritage and the vast energy that will come with doing so (just like in Germany between 1933 - 1945). We will only begin to win when there are enough of us. And when there are enough of us, we can't but win. Thus the spoiling posts, the inane off subject bull shit. All designed to keep our message as garbled as possible.

There is nowhere for white people to go anymore. That is one reason I despise the spoilers around here as much as I do. They have taken the world with their talmudbible bullshit and the nigger crap culture that goes with their liberalism and egalitarianism. We can't even have this one place to relax and talk, and maybe make some converts, without that scum insinuating itself. With discipline and motive (our glorious culture and heroic history), we could throw them out, and not just out of a forum on the INTERNET. Time to grow up? Well, we should begin with this forum and make it run trim and right - with the trouble makers, whether professional or amateurs - silenced, or at least, marginalized.

All the bullshit here - and there is more of it with every CI clown and kike plant who registers - is intended to defeat our proselytizing mission to wake up as many people as possible.

Is there a conspiracy to bring down the "proselytizing mission" Gott? Why on earth would the Jews want to bring down people like yourself here:

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LOL you are a white trash Landesverräter, another stupid fucking Yank who wants to be German. How fucking pathetic, trailer trash like yourself are a dime a dozen these days. We are all Germans now (ROFL)! What a loser. Riffraff like yourself would have made Hitler's skin crawl. What on earth makes you think the National Socialists would have ever associated themselves with your sleaze? You sound like an American Jewess, or a nigger, with all the filth that poors out of your mouth. Oh well, at least we have eugenics!

I'm sure you have a lot of good ideas and suggestions. What do you think needs to be done?


We’ll do that, but first let’s agree on the nature of the problem and one very necessary course of action:

The political is psychological and politics is a psychological contest. Although White nationalism is supported by the evidence and many good arguments it is badly losing the war to win the hearts and minds of our people. The single greatest reason for this has been our failure to appeal to our people’s positive, transcendental nature and prove our sincerity through deeds. This is a leadership problem and our "leaders" have failed us. But rather than openly admitting to failure they deny it, and excuse themselves by continuing to justify failed strategies/tactics and condoning dysfunctional statements/behavior. Pierce, Hale, Butler and the lesser leaders of the tat-swazi-costume clowns; all were/are guilty of failure and all must go.

t_electric is damn right.

that's why the Klan is here. it'll get us through thiese times lke it always has.

http://www.displaysforschools.com/kkk.jpg

t_electric is damn right.

that's why the Klan is here. it'll get us through thiese times lke it always has.

http://www.displaysforschools.com/kkk.jpg


Actually, I include the Klan's leadership amongst the failed leaders of the tat-swazi-costume crowd.

Actually, I include the Klan's leadership amongst the failed leaders of the tat-swazi-costume crowd.


The failure has to do with the policies being advocated. The ideas coming from pro-white groups are not working. That is the plain fact.

The primary problem is that the economic policies being advocated were developed by Nazi Germany and were appropriate for their time and situation. Germany is an overpopulated country that is dependent on imported raw goods and imported foods. Germany also had roughly 50 years of socialism and governmental interference in its economy. The majority of the public wanted what the Nazis had to offer.

America is different. In this country we have an abundance of raw materials and food. Also, very important, is that America has the tradition of the free marketplace and is anti-government for the most part.

National Socialism will never get get the support of more than a fraction of Americans.

So friends, we have to ask ourselves what is more important: Our race, or adherence to some ideology first.

My goal is foremost is the security and safety of my race and ideology takes a back seat. For the last two years, I have read seriously about the free market and property rights. I have also come to the conclusion that the way to go to protect ourselves and our race from immigrants and other races is the re-establishment of private property rights.

We also have wonderful history of those before us who fought for this very idea.

http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/3_1/3_1_3.pdf
The War for Southern Independence: A Radical Libertarian Perspective
Stromberg, Joseph R. (Vol. 3 Num. 1)

This is a good perspective on Southern Independence.

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I see no-nomen is firmly on the side of ideology above race. Your kind has used our current crisis as a way to manipulate others towards questionable ideologies.

So, how many more years are we to listen to the promises of national socialism? Your time is up. It is now time for thise who have a better understanding of the world to take over the leadership positions.

See the thread in homeschooling where I am offering to instruct anyone in economics.

Here is a snipet in the text that I will be using:

"The peoples who have developed the system of the market economy and cling to it are in every respect superior to all other peoples. The fact that they are eager to preserve peace is not a mark of their weakness and inability to wage war. They love peace because they know that armed conflicts are pernicious and disintegrate the social division of labor. But if war becomes unavoidable, they show their superior efficiency in military affairs too. They repel the barbarian aggressors whatever their numbers may be. [p. 672]"


Finally, the results of the two world wars have already proven the superiority of the capitalist economies. The nazis can only whine so much about the "jews betrayed us, the jews betrayed us".

The choice is up to you. Do you want to continue whining about betrayals and listening to your current "leaders" making excuses. Or do you want to learn about modern economic science? It is a damn shame that no one has yet to take a chance in learning Austrian economics. Germany was responsible for making economics into a real science in 1871. It is a damn shame that none of you are even interested.

The failure has to do with the policies being advocated. The ideas coming from pro-white groups are not working. That is the plain fact.

Agreed.

The primary problem is that the economic policies being advocated were developed by Nazi Germany and were appropriate for their time and situation.

You may be confusing principles with policies. Policies vary, principles don't.

I think White victims of Nafta and Gatt would be very interested in promoting/developing light manufacturing industries operating on national socialist principles in rural and suburban communities. No heavy, long-term capital investment would be required if we "clone" our own machines, train our own apprentices, have ‘em build and train on their equipment at cost, and turn 'em loose on every White "Pleasantville" throughout the country.

Germany is an overpopulated country that is dependent on imported raw goods and imported foods.

Sure and we’re spread across the breadth of a continent. This is why we must emphasize the local over the national.

Germany also had roughly 50 years of socialism and governmental interference in its economy.

And we haven’t?

The majority of the public wanted what the Nazis had to offer.

And so would the unemployed White machinists, operators, electricians, carpenters, electronic technicians, manufacturing engineers, etc., found in Pleasantville, USA.

America is different. In this country we have an abundance of raw materials and food.

Yes we do, but it is spread across a continent. Pleasantville, USA faces the same problem as Germany.

Also, very important, is that America has the tradition of the free marketplace and is anti-government for the most part.

A rather flexible "tradition," I would say.

National Socialism will never get get the support of more than a fraction of Americans.

It certainly wouldn’t be supported by speculators and "our" captains of industry, or the (w)hite, yuppie, "wannabewealthy" sycophants of the kiked economy.

So friends, we have to ask ourselves what is more important: Our race, or adherence to some ideology first.

German national socialist policies were applicable to Germany, as you have pointed out. American NS policies would be applicable to America. Furthermore, we do not have to call it "national socialism," if that is your concern.


Randolph,

You could help us by concentrating on how to make manufacturing companies operating on national socialist principles successful at the local level. Unless you have a technology background, you needn't concern yourself too much with the technical details of the machinery. Work on business plans, logistics, labor issues, etc.

It is a damn shame that no one has yet to take a chance in learning Austrian economics. Germany was responsible for making economics into a real science in 1871. It is a damn shame that none of you are even interested.

Austrian economists did not make America, Germany, and Japan into modern industrialized nations.

I see no-nomen is firmly on the side of ideology above race.
Your kind has used our current crisis as a way to manipulate
others towards questionable ideologies.

See the thread in homeschooling where I am offering to instruct
anyone in economics.
Randolph,

I fail to understand why you would say that. I produce an
advertisment for you at no charge and you send me a PM
thanking me. It is several days later now and you no longer
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In Re your thread: Class offering

You even falsely accuse no_nomen of claiming that "that there
is no such thing as economic science" when, in fact, no_nomen
never wrote that. (It was written by Styrkar Nielsen) .

Odd behavior indeed for a Economic Scientist !

VNN Forum > White Life > Homeschooling > Class offering
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=77
Forget No_nomen, he claims that there
is no such thing as economic science.
Randolph Sir,

I was not no_nomen that claimed that. It was Styrkar Nielsen .

See: Post #30 in the thread "It is time for sensible action".
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=300#post300
Styrkar Nielsen
Member
Joined: Dec 2003


Randolph, you must realize that economics is not a science at all.

Its when it becomes a con job that it becomes a science to keep people from figuring it out.

Buy low, sell high. Buy from whites, build factories, keep the money in your own little circle.

Thats all there is to know.

You make it all sound so complicated that people close thier minds and go along with the Rothschild economic system.

Making money is simple when whites cooperate with each other instead of taking loans from jew banks.


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No response from Linder?

"3) Hal Turner. The "Genius Hal" program goes something like this: Fuck, shit, nigger, kike. I think I'm having a heart attack. Send money."

I find that extremely funny. I laughed out loud.

I believe Vaginaface (I cant remember your handle, sorry) makes some valid points. I truly do.

But sitting around, trying to belittle fellow White's by concocting some rant that sounds good, isnt condusive to a Zionist free world.

I suppose one should first be critical of ones self, then Jews, then mudmen, then other White's.

getting back to the original post by veritas

it was kind of funny.

however, the people he insults, Alex, and also to a lesser extent Kievsky and M Moran, have done real things in the real world to advance their ideas of WN. So they are beyond where-ever the keyboard pecker Veritas is in terms of deeds.

Also, Veritas should thanks Alex especially and his many supporters for helping create the Forum used by Veritas to spout off. Maybe they should have "grown up" and then we wouldnt have heard this funny little bit of henpecking from a netpecker.

You're irrelevant, Ms. Hanes.


*S* t_electric's delusions of superiority are always fun to watch! Tell us more about how all other nationalists on this board are beer-guzzling skinheads, t_e. And how your family is the vanguard of our race. That's one of my favorite fairy tales! :D

This thread is hilarious. You never know where the fun stuff will pop up in a message board.

But a few comments. Here is a very perceptive comment by Mr Gott: '' The only reason the Germans and their European allies were able to give the kike-run world such a spectacular fight during the war is because Europeans had that same sense of cultural cohesiveness then.....We don't have cultural connections to each other and we don't have the discipline to toe the line. And we are unable to compel those who undermine our strategic objectives to shape up. We need to make those connections and acquire that discipline. "

AGreeed, absolutely. But then he goes on to criticize Christianity. Fine, I think that's a good debate, though I see some redeeming aspects to Christianity. (pun-sorry) To my point: but was not Christianity part of the shared culture of Europe that provided a context for NS to succeed in Germany? Maybe that's a different thread.

Also: Fred Haerne is a very good writer, in English. In fact, I think he writes better than most Americans, and even most posters at this web page. Keep it coming Fred.

Also for MR Randolph: prior to my incarnation as a WN, I was a Randroid. As in Ayn-Rand. Yes I know, Elissa Rosenbaum, etc. In those years I much studied Ludwig Von Mises and the rest. Indeed you are correct that is the best economic science to learn.

However, race and ethnicity are the primary factors in society. Economics deals with secondary factors. In the end, I would rather live in Sweden than pre-commie Hong Kong, any day of the week. So we dont spend much time talking about economics. I hope you understand that we respect your interest in economics and that there are others who read VNN who appreciate the Austrian school as well. I'm pretty sure, however, that they are interested in the more fundamental objective of re-asserting our racial sovereignity over our ancestral lands. OK? Your feedback please.

Also for MR Randolph: prior to my incarnation as a WN, I was a Randroid. As in Ayn-Rand. Yes I know, Elissa Rosenbaum, etc. In those years I much studied Ludwig Von Mises and the rest. Indeed you are correct that is the best economic science to learn.

A few points Rand made were good. As is always the case with libertarians (or Objectivism as Rand liked to call her stuff -- pretty much the same as libertarianism anyway) they are at their best when pointing to the errors in socialism. They are at their worst when showing an alternative. I believe that the right has turned into libertarianism because it didn't dare attack the goals of the left. Instead they attacked the means, the use of the government to affect society, because it was easier; they must have figured that with a smaller state people would naturally live conservative lives. Unfortunately that meant that a lot of people grew up actually believing the new rhetoric, and so they adopted the idea of a small state and PC goals. It is an approach that can't win many votes.

Yes, I know there are still conservative libertarians, but they are in the minority.


Randolph, I study macro and micro economics, and I am aware of the virtues of the market economy. So are most nationalists. But we want government interference to some degree not because of economic considerations, but out of non-economic considerations. There are times when such are warranted.

Unfortunately you started out in a highly confrontational style from the very beginning when you wrote about economics. It won't do any good. You made the assumption that everybody else here would be socialist in their approach to the economy, which is a highly erroneous assumption. If you had read the work of Dr. Pierce, you would notice that there is no socialism there. And Linder often links to stuff at LRC -- while at the same time pointing out the relevant stuff that they don't dare write about.

As for bashing the national socialists who tried to save Germany, what's up with that? To use socialist rhetoric was a way to win support, and it worked very well. They did what they had to do, knowing that shaping the economy was a secondary matter -- an important matter to be sure, but still secondary. Now, there are far too many nationalists who feel the need to as soon as possible write in this forum about how much they hate skinheads or the like, so they can say that "I'm not one of the bad guys the media attack." I'm far from being a skinhead myself ... but it's no good disrespecting those who love their people just as much as you do, but have other ideas of how to fight for it.

Nice points Fred.

I would add this about NS vs liberterianism. Rand talked alot about how socialism was the use of government force to violate people's property rights in favor of some gang. Well, in a way she was right. But every government on earth is "socialist" in that regard, and as a White I would prefer my people to be in charge instead of Jews and their handpicked and groomed shabbas goyim.

Neither in an ideal state would I reject "socialism" to the extent it was necessary to maintain important social institutions. For example, marriage is a kind of favored social instittution, which adds propery rights to married folk others do not. Now queers want that. I say no. I say, some privileged social institions, some fair restriction of the individual's range of personal autonomy, is neccesary for the preservation of the basic social fabric and order. Which includes the integrity of racial groups in some contexts. Thus I would support antimiscegenation laws.

Thus I cant really call myself a liberterian anymore, because I reject the normative value of minimal government, or as the Randroids say, "not initiating force..." in favor of a more traditional understanding of the ideal state as guardian of important social institutions-- folk and family, foremost.

[QUOTE=t_electric]I see. You wanna make ME the problem to distract from those problems rightfully noted by Veritas.

>Tell me: What percentage of shaved-head, tat-bearing, doc-wearing, pierced, alcoholic skinz stay employed, build successful businesses, stay married to the same woman, make lotz of white babies with that woman (and no others) and run for political office compared to, say, the general White population?

>Speak up, sweets, ‘cause I CAN’T HEAR YOU!

Run a successful business? For who? Yourself or for your race? Run for political office? On what platform? Republican? The same Republican Party that gets 25% of it's national funding from Jewish Organizations? The same Republican Party of George W. Bush who last year put up a portrait of Marxist Luther King Jr. in the White House? That Republican Party??


>The fact is, you wouldn’t recognize leadership through example if it bit you on the ass. To the detriment of our cause and people you are coddling psychopaths in cyberspace who haven’t the slightest intention of changing their ways in the real world.

You are playing class warfare which is typical dimestore Fox News Channel Bill O'Reilly elitism. Announce in front of your co-workers at your business that you are a White Nationalist and they will run you out of town on a rail. The local network news media will follow you to your house and you will be ostracized in your entire so-called community...your angle of staying "respectable" means staying KOSHER. End of Story. I know dozens of these "respectable" whites who are "successful" and every single one of them gets their ideology from television. If it's not on Jew TV, it's not allowed as a part of their world view. These people are about as important to the White movement as a slice of cheese.

>Lotz of young friends. Both sexes. Intelligent, healthy, well-balanced kids. High school, college and vocational students. Athletic. Law-abiding. Good communicators. Respected. Leaders.

Yeah, and I'm sure that none of your children's friends love nigger rap..I'm sure all of those children just hate Jews too? Yeah right. Check out the ratings for "Schindler's List" when it was on Primetime network TV. It was very popular even among young people. College? Oh yes, there is so much White Nationalism in college these days, it's just a hotbed of White GLORY..yeah right...trust me, I've been to college, if they aren't verbally kissing minority ass, they must have a bad case of laryngitis that day....your children are leaders? Leaders of what? The mongrel MTV-fed Jewish hordes???

Great reply, Otto.

Assuming this “t_electric” really is a “businessman”, he probably runs some ratty-ass, possibly Mexican, “restaurant” and employs illegals. Some Great White Hero.

I don’t believe his kids are “racialists” either. I can just see it: “Guess what, Father? I wrote an essay on Martin Luther King for history class, telling how he was a plagiarist and an adulterer, and the teacher gave me an A! I’m also organizing a peaceful movement with a group of fellow White Racialist friends to have Martin Luther King Day rescinded as a school holiday. And Father, may I please borrow $30 dollars? I want to buy this Wagner deluxe–boxed CD set that’s on sale at Tower Records.“ :rolleyes:

Come to think of it, I don’t believe he even has kids. Seems to me he spends way too much time downloading jpegs of half-naked young men with WP tattoos. Hmm….wonder what that’s all about? On second thought, I don’t really wanna know… :eek:

Hey, wait a minute … I recall another clown who liked to mock WNs and post pictures of skinheads — Tom Rennick! Hey, it that you, Renny? C’mon, you can tell me. When are you going to get around to the part where you say that we should accept Jews as White, and start mating with gooks?

Might Is Right.

Might Is Right.


White is right. :cool: