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Ronald Anderson
May 14th, 2004, 10:21 PM
http://www.cosmotheism.net/thepath.shtml
Hallstatt
May 15th, 2004, 06:48 AM
http://www.cosmotheism.net/thepath.shtml
Cosmotheism, as developed by William Pierce, is a superior creation and I agree with it in many ways, the sacredness of evolution and the race being fundamental. The White Temple shares its Hegelian view of the self creation of the creator. I wish Mr. Pierce had spent more time promoting this religion. I think religion is the way to go for our race.
Our main difference with Cosmotheism is the same difference we have with most religions: we don’t affirm a duality between spirit and matter. The concept of duality seems to have developed long ago as a means to explain how something as perfect as God could create something as imperfect as the world. Evolution is a better explanation. The soul---which we define as the Will-To-Godhood---activates and evolves by way of the material, evolving world, and dies if life dies. When the material world of the flesh is hated it leads to all kinds of weakness developing in religion and society.
The Cosmotheism links you gave, which are well done, our not associated with the National Alliance.
waj44
May 15th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Cosmotheism, as developed by William Pierce, is a superior creation and I agree with it in many ways, the sacredness of evolution and the race being fundamental.
Oh yeah, William Pierce is also a man accused by a former female staffer of making pornographic movies.
Ronald Anderson
May 15th, 2004, 05:24 PM
Oh yeah, when you go into a porn store, you will find it right next to the Paris Hilton sex tape. This is bullshit generated by lowlife trash.
Oh yeah, William Pierce is also a man accused by a former female staffer of making pornographic movies.
waj44
May 17th, 2004, 08:07 AM
waj44, join me in remembering the Sins of the Fathers, all the Catholic priests who molested altar boys. Many have pled guilty in court and are in jail!
What do I have to do with Catholic priests? I think they ought to be gassed. These perverts are violating everything Christianity stands for.
waj44
May 17th, 2004, 08:12 AM
So what the christian bibble is filled with porn even incest. So what is your point?
That's a lot of crap. Nowhere does the Bible advocate porn or incest. It mentions instances where people committing these acts, but they were condemned for it.
Lot's daughters committed incest and their offspring became a cursed people. But even that was incest under duress, since Lot's daughters, who had just witnessed the violent destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, most likely thought they and their father were the last people on earth and the continuation of humanity rested with them.
goidelicwarrior
May 17th, 2004, 09:01 AM
That's a lot of crap. Nowhere does the Bible advocate porn or incest. It mentions instances where people committing these acts, but they were condemned for it.
Lot's daughters committed incest and their offspring became a cursed people. But even that was incest under duress, since Lot's daughters, who had just witnessed the violent destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, most likely thought they and their father were the last people on earth and the continuation of humanity rested with them. are u aware of that the Bible comes from the Talmud ? werent americans so damned christian the support for israel would wouldent be so massive... or ?
waj44
May 17th, 2004, 09:23 AM
are u aware of that the Bible comes from the Talmud ? werent americans so damned christian the support for israel would wouldent be so massive... or ?
That's only among the dispensational heretics.
Support for Israel is due to the kikes' bribing and blackmailing US politicians.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 17th, 2004, 10:51 AM
I dont think Cosmotheism has been very well defined as a religion. Here are two questions that keep nagging at me and I hope somebody will take the time to consider and answer them.
how is Cosmotheism different than pantheism?
how is different than Deism?
thanks.
Hallstatt
May 17th, 2004, 12:34 PM
...how is Cosmotheism different than pantheism? how is different than Deism?...
I am not a Cosmotheist, but it seems to me that Cosmotheism is pantheistic in the sense that God is defined as self-creating as The Urge from God activates the evolution of the cosmos. And Cosmotheism is not deistic in the sense that Deism usually denies the Creator involved with the laws of the cosmos. Both interpretations are okay with me.
waj44
May 18th, 2004, 08:00 AM
Whatever you think, Dr Pierce did not advocate porn either so why are you bitching could it because it is the typical christling hate for all other religions that are not christling. Most likey that is always the core of the reason.
Whether he advocated it or not, the fact is there is a female ex-staffer who claims he made porno movies with her and has the tapes to prove it. If true, and I have yet to hear any denials, it reveals some disturbing things about the man's character. Besides the simple issue of the lack of discipline of a seventy year-old man making a porno movie, such behavior indisputably demonstrates a serious lack of judgement, since prominant figures have been blackmailed for much less.
As to supposed hate for other religions, that's hilarious. I go to all kinds of Christian message boards and nowhere do I see people flooding the boards with anti-pagan material. OTOH, here all I see are these pagan circle jerk hatefests consisting of little more than posting simple-minded anti-Christian comments back and forth to each other. Its seems so childish.
Maybe you think you are accomplishing something, but the fact is your pathological hatred and in-your-face loathing of Christianity only makes you the enemy of every sane Christian. If this is the true attitude of your ilk, then if our race ever does manage to save itself, the first order of business for Christians will be to either separate themselves or, if that's impossible, simply exterminate the incorrigible haters of Christ.
Jenab
May 18th, 2004, 09:50 AM
Whether he advocated it or not, the fact is there is a female ex-staffer who claims he made porno movies with her and has the tapes to prove it. If true, and I have yet to hear any denials, it reveals some disturbing things about the man's character. Besides the simple issue of the lack of discipline of a seventy year-old man making a porno movie, such behavior indisputably demonstrates a serious lack of judgement, since prominant figures have been blackmailed for much less.
Women and swearing were Dr. Pierce's only known common vices. I'll explain the swearing first.
When Dr. Pierce was younger he developed at some point a habit of cursing under his breath, softly so nobody else could hear. As he grew older, the habit became ingrained and his hearing became less acute. Like many older men, he began to speak more loudly to compensate for the partial loss of hearing. What had been a subvocal string of customary curses became audible to others. It led, once, to a corruption of an American Dissident Voices tape that had to be recalled from UPS and exchanged with belatedly edited tapes, and to make matters worse the unedited version, curses and all, was posted on the NATVAN website in real audio and wave formats for a few hours...and was downloaded by over 100 people during that time.
(A German listener, whose name I don't know, wrote a letter which cautiously criticized Dr. Pierce by praising his speech but suggesting that he should temper his language. The accidental release of the tainted recording was the result of the failure of three different audio editors to listen to the tape: each of them assumed that at least one of the others had done whatever was necessary.)
Dr. Pierce was in most respects a considerate man. He didn't intend his curses to intimidate or offend anybody. They were the way in which he vented his frustration when his work was giving him difficulties. He didn't curse AT anybody. You could go right up to him, while he was cursing, and he'd break it off, smile, and ask what you wanted.
However, the boss did carry on scandalously with women. He really liked looking at the pretty ones, and he wasn't above making a serious pass (and following through if it was accepted). Being married didn't seem to slow him down much, if any. On the other hand, he was a gentleman about being turned down. One of his former female staffers did turn him down, and for many years thereafter he kept her on staff, paid her well, and always spoke well of her competence and skill.
Unfortunately, it was precisely in choosing girlfriends that Dr. Pierce had exceptionally poor judgment. One of them evidently talked him into making a video record of their affair, perhaps by promising it would remain forever private between themselves. After he died she betrayed him, threatening to release the videotape as a means of giving leverage to Erich Gliebe's illicit takeover of the National Alliance.
Many people have had affairs. It's a common sin. But it becomes a major scandal when the evidence becomes public, and that's a sign of the level of hypocrisy in most people. Even other adulterers and philanderers will hoot and mock and ridicule when another of their sort is "outed" with a backstabbing amateur porno video.
It's said that the defense of virtue can't be left to the virtuous because there aren't enough of them to keep virtue safe. On the other hand, the sinners who properly criticize sinning should have the decency to acknowledge that they've sinned, too. The hypocritical mockers are one of the reasons we can't achieve racial solidarity.
Jenab
May 18th, 2004, 10:33 AM
are u aware of that the Bible comes from the Talmud ? werent americans so damned christian the support for israel would wouldent be so massive... or ?
The Bible does not come from the Talmud. The Talmud is a collection of writings by Jewish priests dating from the Babylonian captivity through the first few centuries anno domini.
The Old Testament of the Bible is also a collection of Hebrew/Jewish writings, which is why they are marked so strongly by vengeful spite and bloodthirsty hatred, but most of them predate the Talmud. The New Testament is more recent than most of the Talmud, but the two are in direct conflict with each other over many moral and factual issues, especially in regard to Jesus.
waj44
May 18th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Unfortunately, it was precisely in choosing girlfriends that Dr. Pierce had exceptionally poor judgment. One of them evidently talked him into making a video record of their affair, perhaps by promising it would remain forever private between themselves. After he died she betrayed him, threatening to release the videotape as a means of giving leverage to Erich Gliebe's illicit takeover of the National Alliance.
Based upon Pierce's obvious lack of self-control when it came to women, I have to wonder if he wasn't already being blackmailed besides the episode you referred to? I suppose we will never know.
You forgot to mention that Pierce also abandoned his first wife and two sons.
Many people have had affairs. It's a common sin. But it becomes a major scandal when the evidence becomes public, and that's a sign of the level of hypocrisy in most people. Even other adulterers and philanderers will hoot and mock and ridicule when another of their sort is "outed" with a backstabbing amateur porno video.
Yes, many people have had affairs, but many people don't. Is everyone tempted? Probably yes. I know I have both been tempted and had offers that were hard to resist, but these were resisted. All married men, except maybe those who are toad-ugly, experience this. And I'm no paragon of self-discipline. So I have to presume that any man who is a compulsive womanizer, probably has some defect of character that goes beyond a mere desire for sex.
Another unbelievable lack of judgement committed by Pierce was wasting $40,000 to defend the satanic killer, Henrich Moebus. I had been a faithful NA member for a number of years when that happened, but I became furious, since for years the organization had begged for money and blamed all its shortcomings on lacks of funds. Yet when Moebus, a non-member, needed help, Pierce suddenly produced tens of thousands of dollars like a magician. My only conclusion was that all the poor-mouthing was just a bunch of hogwash or else the organization's priorities were all wrong. Thus began my personal disenchantment with the NA and eventual separation from the organization.
It's said that the defense of virtue can't be left to the virtuous because there aren't enough of them to keep virtue safe. On the other hand, the sinners who properly criticize sinning should have the decency to acknowledge that they've sinned, too. The hypocritical mockers are one of the reasons we can't achieve racial solidarity.
I'm very familiar with the history of WN in this country and am personally sick and tired of the constant failure that comes from the very undiscriminating attitude of many people towards organizational leaders. The attitude that as along as a person is pro-white then he's all right, has proven misguided and dangerous so many times it hurts to think about it.
After years of this, I'm fed-up with sending money and contributing my time to organizations led by dysfunctional, immoral, or dishonest people. Besides publishing a small number of books, these racial organizations really produce nothing constructive anyway.
Fredrik Haerne
May 19th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Whether he advocated it or not, the fact is there is a female ex-staffer who claims he made porno movies with her and has the tapes to prove it. If true, and I have yet to hear any denials, it reveals some disturbing things about the man's character.
Fantastic! The lowly slanderer's strategy in action. "No proof, but I'll charge ahead anyway."
But, what else to expect from a sticklicker? We atheists are the ones who look for facts first, and make up our minds later. Sticklickers are of more, ahem, dubious quality.
As to supposed hate for other religions, that's hilarious. I go to all kinds of Christian message boards and nowhere do I see people flooding the boards with anti-pagan material.
Because
1. Sticklickers and their friends the Jews already have the White world in a strangle-hold, so Paganism is not nearly as visible.
2. Sticklickers looove navel-gazing. Just look at them reading the same book over and over again, drooling over the same old lies year after year.
OTOH, here all I see are these pagan circle jerk hatefests consisting of little more than posting simple-minded anti-Christian comments back and forth to each other.
You forget: posting questions to sticklickers, that the sticklickers refuse to answer. Like you do, coward.
Maybe you think you are accomplishing something, but the fact is your pathological hatred and in-your-face loathing of Christianity only makes you the enemy of every sane Christian.
Oh, GEE! Help us, Jeebus!
And how about this: "Maybe you think you are accomplishing something, but the fact is your pathological hatred and in-your-face loathing of Jews only makes you the enemy of every sane Jew."
Do you subscribe to that statement, Waj? Do you think that is the right reaction to an anti-Semite? And if not, how do you think it differs from your attack on anti-Christians?
If this is the true attitude of your ilk, then if our race ever does manage to save itself, the first order of business for Christians will be to either separate themselves or, if that's impossible, simply exterminate the incorrigible haters of Christ.
Ahh, this is a keeper. The "loving" Christian's true thoughts! Like a wise man posted in Reader Mail once, one of the main attractions of sticklicking is to see your enemies fry in hell. Man, is it possible to hate these smug fuckers any more? Yes, it is: every time they open their mouths and pour out some more retarded fantasies, alternately some more hateful "love", your healthy hatred of the insanity is given a boost.
Jenab
May 19th, 2004, 08:18 PM
You forgot to mention that Pierce also abandoned his first wife and two sons.
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
The idea behind Jesus' words is that you can't put anything above your highest calling. Most everybody knows that I'm not Christian. But I give credit where it is due, and every now and then Jesus displayed some wisdom.
Another unbelievable lack of judgement committed by Pierce was wasting $40,000 to defend the satanic killer, Henrich Moebus.
You are mistaken about Moebus. I knew the fellow. He was part of a gang of German teenagers that got into a fight, and somebody was killed during the fight. Hendrick Moebus was not the killer: he was convicted of being an accessory, probably because he was present as a part of the gang whose other members did the killing. I'm not certain whether Moebus was ever a Satanist; however, if he was, then he had a change of philosophy while he was serving his juvenile detention. He became a National Socialist.
I had been a faithful NA member for a number of years when that happened, but I became furious, since for years the organization had begged for money and blamed all its shortcomings on lacks of funds. Yet when Moebus, a non-member, needed help, Pierce suddenly produced tens of thousands of dollars like a magician. My only conclusion was that all the poor-mouthing was just a bunch of hogwash or else the organization's priorities were all wrong. Thus began my personal disenchantment with the NA and eventual separation from the organization.
The money for Moebus' legal battle came from a special fund appeal. Websites devoted to raising that money were created, and more appeals were made through the NATALL and NATVAN webites. And there were the "Free Hendrick Moebus" sticker-and-flier campaigns. Victor Gerhard was one of the fundraisers for that project. Anyway, the NA didn't delve as much into its regular operating funds as you seem to think.
I'm very familiar with the history of WN in this country and am personally sick and tired of the constant failure that comes from the very undiscriminating attitude of many people towards organizational leaders. The attitude that as along as a person is pro-white then he's all right, has proven misguided and dangerous so many times it hurts to think about it.
It's difficult to find a man qualified to be both saint and fuhrer.
waj44
May 21st, 2004, 12:29 PM
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
The idea behind Jesus' words is that you can't put anything above your highest calling. Most everybody knows that I'm not Christian. But I give credit where it is due, and every now and then Jesus displayed some wisdom.
There's a big difference between being called to serve God and running some small political group.
You are mistaken about Moebus. I knew the fellow. He was part of a gang of German teenagers that got into a fight, and somebody was killed during the fight. Hendrick Moebus was not the killer: he was convicted of being an accessory, probably because he was present as a part of the gang whose other members did the killing. I'm not certain whether Moebus was ever a Satanist; however, if he was, then he had a change of philosophy while he was serving his juvenile detention. He became a National Socialist.
He was certainly involved in the murder - maybe only standing there giving encouragement, but he was involved enough to be convicted, even in Germany's super-liberal justice system.
I saw an interview where he said that he had "moved beyond" satanism. You don't deny he was a satanist when the murder happened.
The money for Moebus' legal battle came from a special fund appeal. Websites devoted to raising that money were created, and more appeals were made through the NATALL and NATVAN webites. And there were the "Free Hendrick Moebus" sticker-and-flier campaigns. Victor Gerhard was one of the fundraisers for that project. Anyway, the NA didn't delve as much into its regular operating funds as you seem to think.
I remember they collected money, but they also tapped some resources. Maybe Pierce went to some rich members or something like that. But the point is the NA had needed many things and the excuse was always "no money", but with Moebus, suddenly money was found.
Besides that, fighting the Moebus case was a waste of time in the first place. There's no justice in these corrupt ZOG courts. That should be painfully obvious to anyone.
It's difficult to find a man qualified to be both saint and fuhrer.
Especially when the movement tends to repell many normal people.
Look, I understand that sometimes its necessary to put up with a certain number of cranks, but when an organization is indiscriminent in screening its officers, then what can be expected? Look at the one membership coordinator who was involved in seducing another member's underage daughter. I don't know if it was actually a statutory rape, but it was certainly a very scumbag type of adultery. Oh, suddenly he had to return to South Africa to protect his parents from the niggers - or so the bulletin claimed. The worse part is that without an incriminating phone message recording that was fortunately produced by a third party, this esteemed staffer would have probably pulled the wool over Pierce's eyes.
Fredrik Haerne
May 21st, 2004, 01:33 PM
Look at the Christian fanatic, showing his true colors. What is most important to him, race or religion? Why, religion of course! He will hate any nationalist who doesn't worship his fantasy god; no help for Moebus, cause Moebus wasn't a Christian, that's the truth behind his words, though he tries to hide it. What a disgusting piece of fanaticism.
waj44
May 21st, 2004, 08:04 PM
Look at the Christian fanatic, showing his true colors. What is most important to him, race or religion? Why, religion of course! He will hate any nationalist who doesn't worship his fantasy god; no help for Moebus, cause Moebus wasn't a Christian, that's the truth behind his words, though he tries to hide it. What a disgusting piece of fanaticism.
Not true. I'm just not going to support anyone who is anti-Christian not matter what color they are. That doesn't mean that I won't work with non-Christians, but rather I'm not lending support to Christ-haters.
BTW, if you think satanism is good for our race, then you need your head examined.
waj44
May 21st, 2004, 10:13 PM
Brothers and sisters in Christ are far more important than the white race!
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These people are deluded fools and heretics. Christianity will always be the enemy of Judaism. No person can simultaniously claim to be both a Christian and supporter of Judiasm.
I obviously do not support these Judaized fools.
Fredrik Haerne
May 25th, 2004, 10:26 AM
Not true. I'm just not going to support anyone who is anti-Christian not matter what color they are. That doesn't mean that I won't work with non-Christians, but rather I'm not lending support to Christ-haters.
BTW, if you think satanism is good for our race, then you need your head examined.
Oh, did I write that I think Satanism is good for the race? Where did I write that? I don't recall having done so. Maybe you are just building a strawman again.
And I rest my case: you say it yourself here, religion is more important to you than race. You're not going to support a White nationalist who doesn't like your worm religion.
Like ... Alex Linder, for instance? This means you don't send money to VNN, and hope his creation will die? That includes this message board. You don't support VNN or VNNF, both the creations of anti-Xtian Linder? Then what are you doing here, idiot? Censorfront is waiting for your sorry ass.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 25th, 2004, 02:49 PM
I dont speak for anybody but myself but I liked old WLP and I support Alex. As you know I also think Christianity is being too lightly dismissed. Nobody asked, but I also think you guys are excessively baiting one another. Let's assume our good intentions for our own kind, all around here if we claim to be pro-White.
However, I would like to hear people's thoughts on this summary of a small part of Professor MacDonald's work by someone else. I am posting the link to the source document so you can evaluate the person summarizing the work. I quote, emphasis added by me:
p. 241} The Christian Church, despite its obvious Jewish origins, is from an evolutionary perspective fundamentally opposed to Judaism in matters of interest to an evolutionist. Boyarin (1993, 6) contrasts the basic Jewish concern with sexuality, reproduction, genealogy, and a concept of historical peoplehood based on genetic relatedness with the denial of the importance of these quaiities in Christianity. Early Christian thinkers criticized the Jewish tendency to take these Biblical themes literally, while they themselves tended to allegorize these Biblical themes and created new cultural symbols such as the virgin birth and the cultural ideal of celibacy, which were diametrically opposed to these Jewish themes. ... "
http://www.users.cyberone.com.au/myers/macdonald.html
Fredrik Haerne
May 25th, 2004, 03:02 PM
Hey, I'll accept a Christian, but not one that debates dishonestly.
Boyarin (1993, 6) contrasts the basic Jewish concern with sexuality, reproduction, genealogy, and a concept of historical peoplehood based on genetic relatedness with the denial of the importance of these quaiities in Christianity.
Well, that settles it then: Christianity denies the importance of the concept of historical peoplehood based on blood. It is universalist.
Not to mention it says there is a god, which is unverifiable.
waj44
May 25th, 2004, 04:32 PM
Hey, I'll accept a Christian, but not one that debates dishonestly.
Well, that settles it then: Christianity denies the importance of the concept of historical peoplehood based on blood. It is universalist.
Yes, any person can become a Christian. That doesn't mean Christianity advocates or encourages the destruction of races. The various races were created by God, so to destroy them would be evil. There's nothing in traditional Christian teachings that mandates the destruction of races or nations.
FREY
May 25th, 2004, 05:45 PM
Yes, any person can become a Christian. That doesn't mean Christianity advocates or encourages the destruction of races. The various races were created by God, so to destroy them would be evil. There's nothing in traditional Christian teachings that mandates the destruction of races or nations.
Waj, why did god create different races?
waj44
May 26th, 2004, 08:21 AM
Waj, why did god create different races?
I'm not sure exactly. What I do know is that "the nations" (races, nationalities, ethnicities) will exist until judgement day as described in the Book of the Apocalypse. They are evidently part of His plan for the salvation of men.
waj44
May 26th, 2004, 08:23 AM
Christianity bought us the equality myth. People wonder why the holocaust and other big lies are believed by the mass of people. If you believe in christinsanity you will believe any bullshit. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told.
Ok, everybody knows you hate Christianity. Why don't you at least come up with something new instead of just repeating the same thing over and over?
waj44
May 26th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Waj, why did god create different races?
If you read about the Tower of babel it was to prevent men from conspiring together to elevate themselves to God:
The Tower of Babel
11Now the whole earth had one language and one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3 Then they said to one another, "Come, let us make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. 4 And they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth."
5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord said, "Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth.
Abzug Hoffman
May 26th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Christianity bought us the equality myth. People wonder why the holocaust and other big lies are believed by the mass of people. If you believe in christinsanity you will believe any bullshit. Christianity is the greatest lie ever told.
Cuntanity appeals to the most debased minds all the christlings I have know are the most vilest types of people and the only salvation they need is a few feet of rope to dance on the end of.
But on the upside they are weak and when the shit hits the fan just hang or shoot there religious leaders and most will fall into line real quick. And make the other leaders a offer they can not refuse and they will be all bowing to racism in no time.
What the hell do you know about Christians? Through the nineteen fifties you would have found very few white Christians anywhere who believed in equality. Black people had the mark of Cain on them and were basically only good for servants if properly trained. Jews were untrustworthy. Asians were just laughable. People who followed pagan religions were not equal but demonic and needed help (like you.) Just as our government has been jewed into something weird, so has Christianity.
I know Zionist Christians and the scary thing is they are very NICE people, educated and concerned citizens. They are always talking about what some Rabbi said, so wise and wonderful, and they think they are doing good by helping Israel. They are Stepford wives, but that is NOT Christianity, anymore than a robot is a human.
Abzug Hoffman
May 26th, 2004, 10:25 AM
I know alot about christians. And this is not the 1950s and if very few white christlings did not buy into the eqaulity myth back then that was despite there religious spookels not because. Christinsanity laided the groundwork for things like civil wrongs movement. All the were all eqaul trash of today is secular christianity. I do not follow any certain religious creed as I do not need a book to tell me how to live I can think for myself just fine. Unlike others who need a big god to boss them around and do all the thinking for them.
Yes I know the Aryan Paganism of our Pagan Aryan ancestors is demonic I mean they did not bow to semitic jewish trash those bastards. LOL
A human sacrifice to Woden is scheduled for June 21st in Topeka, Kansas. They'll also be throwing some gold objects into ponds and hanging dead animals from trees. Be there!
Fredrik Haerne
May 26th, 2004, 05:08 PM
This coming from a group of twits who spend there pathetic lives reading the same book over and over and saying the same lines about there jewsus over and over again.
*S* Yeah. That is pretty freaky. "This is true, 'cause the Bible says so! And the Bible is true, 'cause it's the word of God! And God never lies, which I know 'cause the Bible says so!"
Now, of course there have been Christians who haven't believed in the "brothers and sisters in Christ" crap, and who have resisted the "worship of the weak, turn the other cheek" doctrine. But the point is, the "The meek shall inherit the earth" stuff is still there in the Bible, and can never be erased. Those Christians who resist it are pretty much doomed from the start. Any time someone can just look up the weakness worship in the Bible again, and there's nothing they can do to stop it, because that is the real message of sticklicking. The message was designed to attract the slaves and servants, the have-nots of the Roman Empire, in order to conquer from below. There's no way to ever get rid of that unless you rewrite the Bible. And that is something Christians have been unwilling to do all this time.
And then, of course, it's a freaky belief system that actually says there are supernatural creatures, and that a corpse stood up and started walking again! Talk about Section A.
Abzug Hoffman
May 26th, 2004, 10:44 PM
Weak Christians took over the European pagans, put a stop to your human sacrifice and other foolishness and made Christian civilizations. So much for worshipping trees. Your pagan shrines are empty and you didn't even know how to write a book Aryan.
Abzug Hoffman
May 27th, 2004, 09:31 AM
Really, COOL! Your religion has human sacrifice in it your jesus hangs on a stick as a human sacrifice. And as for throwing gold in the water so what. Are you saving up to be jewish.LOL It is your christian preaches always crying for more gold. They always say it is better to give then get. But are the frist ones with there plam out for money. Your old testiment is filled with animal sacrifice too. Who are you to moan about how people pay honour to there Aryan gods.
Well, just as Linder said he didn't want to give up on America and let it be what the Jews have made it, so I don't want to give up on Christianity and let it be what the Jews have made it.
Okay, I should have said - You didn't know how to write a book, tree worshipper. But if those pagans DID write a book, it would be even more full of foolishness than the Bible, you know it.
Have you ever read the account of the Viking chief's funeral ceremony described by the Arab? The one where the Vikings take the slave girl, drug her, gang rape her and then cut her throat to show how much they love their Chief? How spiritual is that? Shite. How about the account where they take all the slave girls into one tent and have a massive gang bang? Christianity appealed to slaves? Gee, I wonder why!
Fredrik Haerne
May 27th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Weak Christians took over the European pagans, put a stop to your human sacrifice and other foolishness and made Christian civilizations. So much for worshipping trees. Your pagan shrines are empty and you didn't even know how to write a book Aryan.
*L* I love it how they jump from one foot to another.
"Pagans used force, and that's evil. But nah nah, Christians used force better than them!"
Uhhh, I'm suure the invasions of Pagan lands were a testament to the efficiency of Christianity, not to the White peoples that were under its thrall. After all, the Bible is a handbook in hand-to-hand combat, isn't it? And in battlefield strategy, right? I must have simply missed those chapters when I read the book; perhaps I was in too deep thought after having read the warrior-like "Thou shall not kill" and "The meek shall inherit the earth" and "If a man wants your shirt, you should give him not only your shirt but your coat as well" parts.
Fredrik Haerne
May 27th, 2004, 10:12 AM
Have you ever read the account of the Viking chief's funeral ceremony described by the Arab?
Wonderful how Jews and Jew-worshippers always twist every detail to their benefit. At those occasions when slave women were used in burial ceremonies, the men had sex with them first. Were they "raped"? Surely they didn't enjoy the thought of having sex with so many men, but they knew it was their duty, and that there was no way they would get around it. But the sticklicker here uses the word rape to make you picture a violent chase, a ripping of clothes, a holding down to the ground by force. See how you can manipulate by your choice of words. Jews and their lackeys are experts at it.
Now "Abzug," which I'm pretty sure isn't your real name, is it your purpose with this story to contend that without Christianity Whites are brutal rapists and murderers? And with Christianity we are not? Do you propose that it is only religion that keeps us from being vicious and evil? I don't see any other possible purpose for your story.
Then, if we are evil without Christianity, but good with it, then doesn't it follow that all races can be made good the same way? That niggers, Arabs, Jews and Latinos merely need sticklicking in order to be good?
So following your logic, race doesn't matter. It is religion that matters.
Takes all kinds, I guess.
Abzug Hoffman
May 27th, 2004, 04:13 PM
You all get my point.
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