Lord of the Rings is based on ancient Europe, and that's what makes it special. Middle Earth, the name of the mortal world in Nordic Mythology ... and the gods of Middle Earth are inspired by the Nordic gods, as Tolkien shows in Silmarillion. They are called Valar, which was one name for the Nordic gods, and their king has a throne from which he can see the entire world, just like Oden. Furthermore, Elves, dwarves and giants (represented by the orcs) all come from Nordic mythology.

The trilogy is about race war, or species war rather: it will be either humans or orcs who dominate the world, and the orcs are dark failures only fit for violence. Very educational. Also, I suspect that the elves symbolize the ideal humans, both physically and mentally (which is even clearer in the books).

All in all good movies, can't wait to see the third in the series. I hope it will be as good as the second, which delivered one of the best battle scenes I have ever seen. Who could watch this movie and not hear the call of the forefathers inside, beckoning us to defend our Europa?

The trilogy is about race war, or species war rather: it will be either humans or orcs who dominate the world, and the orcs are dark failures only fit for violence. Very educational....Who could watch this movie and not hear the call of the forefathers inside, beckoning us to defend our Europa?

I recently saw a documentary on TV entitled, "Lord of The Rings; Beyond the Movie". It was a peculiar program, which started out by drawing analogies between the heroes of LOTR and real historical people, (William Wallace of Scotland, and others.) It claimed that Aragorn, Borimir, and the others had historical equivalents in European history, and that was why the films were so accessible and realisitic.

Up to a point, I was impressed by this, (although, right from the start, I had noticed that the "Commentators" all had distinctly jewish features). I wondered why a jew would endorse a film that celebrated traditional historical White values. I was soon to learn why.

After having established a "pro-White" position, they began to show their true colours. When they got to examining Sauron, right on cue they trotted out the old "He is Pure Evil" bullshit, and, (surprise! surprise!), next thing you saw was the inevitable footage of Hitler. Sauron, they declared, was the Tolkein equivalent of Hitler, the "pure evil" of the 20th Century.

Ah-haaa, I thought.

Yep, the old kike bullshit machine was at it again. Obviously they have heard that the LOTR movies are beloved of White Nationalists, and now they're frantically churning out propaganda to prevent anyone else getting any silly ideas from the movies, such as pride in their White heritage.

One of their tricks was to say that the Fellowship wasn't really an alliance of basically similar people joined by a common goal against a common foe. No, it was a great example of "diversity at work". The Fellowship of Men, Dwarves, Elves, and Hobbits was Multiculturalism. We were supposed to see the temporary forced alliance of this single group of slightly disparate people as proof that entire populations of grossly different races can successfully integrate.

I turned this crap off about then, right in the middle of another earnest comment by one of the jews commentators.

The only benefit I derived from watching that program was this; I learned that I'm getting better at identifying jews on sight.

I recently saw a documentary on TV entitled, "Lord of The Rings; Beyond the Movie". It was a peculiar program, which started out by drawing analogies between the heroes of LOTR and real historical people, (William Wallace of Scotland, and others.) It claimed that Aragorn, Borimir, and the others had historical equivalents in European history, and that was why the films were so accessible and realisitic.

Up to a point, I was impressed by this, (although, right from the start, I had noticed that the "Commentators" all had distinctly jewish features). I wondered why a jew would endorse a film that celebrated traditional historical White values. I was soon to learn why.

After having established a "pro-White" position, they began to show their true colours. When they got to examining Sauron, right on cue they trotted out the old "He is Pure Evil" bullshit, and, (surprise! surprise!), next thing you saw was the inevitable footage of Hitler. Sauron, they declared, was the Tolkein equivalent of Hitler, the "pure evil" of the 20th Century.

Ah-haaa, I thought.

Yep, the old kike bullshit machine was at it again. Obviously they have heard that the LOTR movies are beloved of White Nationalists, and now they're frantically churning out propaganda to prevent anyone else getting any silly ideas from the movies, such as pride in their White heritage.

One of their tricks was to say that the Fellowship wasn't really an alliance of basically similar people joined by a common goal against a common foe. No, it was a great example of "diversity at work". The Fellowship of Men, Dwarves, Elves, and Hobbits was Multiculturalism. We were supposed to see the temporary forced alliance of this single group of slightly disparate people as proof that entire populations of grossly different races can successfully integrate.

I turned this crap off about then, right in the middle of another earnest comment by one of the jews commentators.

The only benefit I derived from watching that program was this; I learned that I'm getting better at identifying jews on sight.Interesting, I have the extended DVDs of the first two.. and i haven't watched any of the extras yet but for some reason i think it's on one of the DVD sets... either that or it's in one of the DVD collector sets that sell for about 70 bucks per movie. Good observations though. I look forward to seeing the culmination of the trilogy though.

it's more than this too. not just ancient European culture but medieval as well. I suggest that some folk may have underestimated the "Christian" content in LOTR. I know that's a dirty word for some of you, but it's there, and not in any kikey kind of way either. Redemption, loyalty, hope, morality-- all good things, in their proper context.

it's more than this too. not just ancient European culture but medieval as well. I suggest that some folk may have underestimated the "Christian" content in LOTR. I know that's a dirty word for some of you, but it's there, and not in any kikey kind of way either. Redemption, loyalty, hope, morality-- all good things, in their proper context.

You confuse "Christian" with "moral." No matter what sticklickers may say, redemption, loyalty and hope are not their monopoly.

As luck would have it, Lord of the Rings, far from being inspired by Christianity, is inspired by Nordic mythology through and through. Middle Earth is the name of the mortal world in Nordic mythology. The elves and the dwarves come from Nordic mythology, and the orcs are simply the giants remade. And the gods in Tolkien's world, as shown in his book Silmarillion, borrow many features from Nordic mythology. The leader, for example, is called the king of the gods, just like Oden is king, and he has a throne from where he can see the entire world, just like Oden. Those are only two of the many borrowed details. And I am told that the elven language Tolkien created borrows grammar from Finnish.

Well I dont dispute that a primary influence was Nordic myth. Not at all. Tolkein was a professor of old English or Saxon or Norse or something. On top of that I read he studied Finnish for fun. In the books, the runes clearly look like Futhark.

There are many other similarities than what you mention. Gandalf the wise man dying and then coming back. But then resurrections are popular in myth, arent they? Christians dont have the corner on mythic resurrections, no indeed. You have Oden hanging on a tree at Mimir's well, and you have Baldur of course. Why arent pagans troubled by Norse resurrections? I could bring Mithras in here too but that might be going to far afield.

Myth is a deep well of consciousness and as Jung said the collective unconscious. The same universal spiritual themes that appear in Nordic myth also appear in Greek myth, and before them in Aryan-Indian myth. Not suprisingly the same themes and symbols-- "chandala"-- even appear in other non-Aryan cultures. Particularly solar cultures like the Aztecs, who had similar features to Aryans like caste system, sun worship, White gods, a remote northern mythic heimat, and resurrections.

Jung also said, since we have considered Christianity myth for so long, is it not time to start taking it seriously as myth?

What say ye Fred? Care to engage in a discussion of myth? I'm starting a new thread now.