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The Final Solution
December 12th, 2003, 12:17 PM
"Yggdrasil has stated that Jews should be welcomed as citizens in a "Euro-American" state"

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/wn/wn-10.htm

Who the fuck is this "Yggdrasil" who is so revered on some WN sites? Another JAREDite? Why does VNN link him/her/it without even the disclaimer asterisk given AR and VDARE? What part of NO jews JUST RIGHT is so difficult to understand?

X1965ChainImmigrants
December 12th, 2003, 01:24 PM
Not a bad idea. We could put them all in Skokie, IL and build a 25 foot wall round, the all of it cordoned by tank and helicopter gunship squadrons.

Antiochus Epiphanes
December 12th, 2003, 01:46 PM
Yggdrasil has been writing on the net since 1994 or so.

Prior to Alex Linder beginning VNN, Yggdrasil had exposed and convinced more intelligent people of White Nationalist ideas via the internet than probably anybody other than Dr Pierce. Post Alex, I'll give that honor to Alex.

Furthermore, that is the only tolerant thing you can find that this writer has said about Jews in his whole Opus, which is both excellent and reasonably large.

The other 99% explores, explains, and critiques their role in our race's downfall. So NO, he is NOT another JAREDITE. Although Jared has his uses too.

To dismissively insult Ygg shows ignorance. Go do some research, think before you speak.

All that being said, I will say that I find the comment quoted a bad idea. I think they should go away. They've been among us for over 2000 years and it has definitely taken us to the brink of extinction. There is something about the modern world that has taken the former annoyance known as "Jewry" and made it into a very threatening, pestilent, danger to our existence.

But my point is, dont make so much out of one sentence. We're dancing on the head of a pin anyhow. You can find one sentence by any writer to disagree with. Is that all you found?

Ygg's work here: http://home.ddc.net/ygg/

The Final Solution
December 12th, 2003, 05:22 PM
Is that all you found?

Actually, no. There are these gems courtesy of one of our very own, and on them I will rest my case that "Yggdrasil" certainly quacks like a JAREDite:

I totally agree with you Chain. The sig link of JJT is from here: http://home.ddc.net/ygg/wn/wn-06.htm

I don't see the point in calling it "White" or "Nationalism" if you are going to allow jews, gooks and everyone else that kisses just enough White ass to get into the country. He has added to it. Note that it really makes little sense to exclude mestizos and even pure-blooded indians if you're allowing all Asians into the White Homeland. For that matter, you will probably accept Jews, Arabs and almost everyone else with the exception of Blacks. Here are 2 of his points:

"12. Q. Would Asians be welcome in your separate state?

A. Unresolved. As a general rule, Asian-Americans show very little aggression towards Whites, either personally or politically. Thus, there is no compelling reason to exclude them from our new state.

Further, it is probable that Asians will become political allies at some point because they are almost certain to be viewed as a threat by the existing Jewish- Black-Hispanic racial extortion coalition and be subject to the same discriminatory burdens as we are.

Thus, our relations with Asian Americans are fluid and likely to be shaped by the strategic choices of the racial extortion coalition. We would anticipate that Asian Americans would maintain a strong aesthetic preference for their own kind and might want to maintain their own non-sovereign "nation" within our state, which would generally be fine with us.

13. Q. Would the same hold true for hispanics.

A. The "hispanic race is an artificial grouping of peoples (cobbled together by multi-culturalists in and attempt to enlarge the racial extortion coalition) that includes many Whites of European origin, including Spaniards, and Portugese, as well as many Cubans and Latin Americans of European origin. Hispanics of European origin, as well as those of mixed ancestry who consider themselves White, blend in and display no hostility of a personal or political kind, would be part of our White Nation. Those Hispanics with a history of participation in the racial extortion coalition, and "Mecha" members who want to see the Southwestern U.S. annexed to Mexico would not be welcome."

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=64&page=8&pp=10

OnYourKneesNiggerBoy
December 12th, 2003, 06:17 PM
The Final Solution said: "Yggdrasil has stated that Jews should be welcomed as citizens in a "Euro-American" state"
Yggdrasil is an intelligent individual. Even so, he has not resolved the issue of the Jews to everyone's satisfaction. As I pointed out on another thread, David Lane (who coined the '14 Words' slogan) believes that any individual who "looks white, acts white, and thinks white" IS white. He made no exceptions for Jews in this regard, it should be noted.

So, do we reject blond-haired, blue-eyed Jews who look totally un-Jewish in every regard, while accepting dark-haired, dark-eyed whites who are 1/16 or even 1/8 native American Indian, as many on Stormfront forum say we should?

Where do we draw the line? And, who draws it? No consensus on this matter has been established. But, logically, if we reject fair-haired, Aryan-looking Jews, then we should reject 'whites' with 1/8 native American Indian blood as well, even if they look like a Hitler Jugend poster boy. To do otherwise only injects the whole issue with illogic, and thus makes the whole white nationalist movement look irrational and foolish.

Finally, I must say a word in defense of Jared Taylor. In regard to the evils of multiculturalism, I believe no one else equals his persuasive and powerful arguments against it. Intellectually, I find him superior to both Yggdrasil and Kevin Strom, and certainly the equal of Dr. William Pierce himself. The only real thing I have against Mr. Taylor is that he is opposed to nigger lynching.

Oh well, can't have everything....

http://www.journale.com/withoutsanctuary/photos/79.jpg

western-nationalist
December 13th, 2003, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't consider "Yggdrasil" a true White Nationalist, he's a good stepping stone like Jared Taylor.

T. Kadijevic
December 13th, 2003, 09:36 PM
Maybe Yggdrasil wants to welcome kikes into a Euro-American state so he'll still have something to write about when the yidz start causing trouble. Kind of like the adage of "why sell home security if no homes are broken into".

Anima Eternae
July 1st, 2004, 01:05 AM
I've read McDonald and he's hardly "hardocore", but he does name the Jew. As for...

Unresolved. As a general rule, Asian-Americans show very little aggression towards Whites, either personally or politically. Thus, there is no compelling reason to exclude them from our new state.

Further, it is probable that Asians will become political allies at some point because they are almost certain to be viewed as a threat by the existing Jewish- Black-Hispanic racial extortion coalition and be subject to the same discriminatory burdens as we are.


I can't speak for the asians, but it would make me very happy if a future WN state put all the Eurasians together (somewhere). Fuck the "asians". So like in 30 years when you guys come to power, remember this post. Please?

My entire dreams of ethnic nationalism are hinging on you guys! You're my only hope!

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Chain
July 1st, 2004, 01:08 AM
"Yggdrasil has stated that Jews should be welcomed as citizens in a "Euro-American" state"

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/wn/wn-10.htm

Who the fuck is this "Yggdrasil" who is so revered on some WN sites? Another JAREDite? Why does VNN link him/her/it without even the disclaimer asterisk given AR and VDARE? What part of NO jews JUST RIGHT is so difficult to understand?
His name is John Gardiner- I believe, from memory, it's "er", though it may be "ar" on the end.

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 1st, 2004, 11:30 AM
I've read McDonald and he's hardly "hardocore", but he does name the Jew. As for...




I can't speak for the asians, but it would make me very happy if a future WN state put all the Eurasians together (somewhere). Fuck the "asians". So like in 30 years when you guys come to power, remember this post. Please?

My entire dreams of ethnic nationalism are hinging on you guys! You're my only hope!

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hahaha, funny funny, mebbe you'll grow up to be governor of Caleefornia some day.

I dont make too much out of this post. Ygg talked in this series of essays about transitions from "integrated" society into something new. The whole point was that "genocide" was not absolutely necessary to desegregation. The series gets people thinking. I dont know or care if Ygg agrees with 100% of what he has written today or not, but I am thankful he wrote this series of essays and think people should be exposed to them particularly as gateway material.

here is a link to ygg

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/index.htm

here is some crit of ygg from FAEM

http://www.faem.com/eric/2002/et230.htm

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 1st, 2004, 11:32 AM
here was his reply to similar questions at sf:

"All the mexicans in this country should be allowed in our white nation??

Where did I ever say that?

I certainly have said that those Mexicans and Cubans who have european origins must be admitted, but I have never said that all mexicans now here must be admitted.

Many have misread my writings from 1994.

Non white races will be denied citizenship absolutely. However, I am flexible on the issue of whether non-whites who are non-hostile should be allowed temporary or permanent non-voting resident status, subject to anti-miscegenation rules - an option that many of your fellow whites might think desirable for economic reasons.

After all, driving away one third of our population over a short period of time will produce an economic depression that will last a number of years.

If you aspire to leadership in this movement, these are issues you must be prepared to grapple with and manage in an intelligent way. Our fellow whites certainly will want to free themselves from their subordinate racial status, but they are going to insist that you and I find a way to do it without causing economic depressions.

The devil is in the details.

I should also add, that in 1994 through 1997, I bumped into a number of NA members who looked forward to the day of revolution when millions of wrong thinking whites, "johnny come latelys," and "hobbyists" would have to be sacrificed and/or killed to make way for the new order - where we would be better off without them.

Dr. Pierce, to his credit, abandoned this view in the final years of his life, and I know that the current NA leadership disagrees emphatically with that view.

But I also know that there a significant number of deranged people who still hold to this view, and I also know that as this movement grows and takes institutional form, we are going to have to convince our fellow whites that we have the means and the resolve to control those people.

I hate having to discuss this issue in public, but when I am continually provoked by people who refuse to understand fairly simple social engineering and economic processes that must attend a racial separation, I cannot help suspecting that I am talking to some deranged lunatic who really wants to kill his fellow whites using his own special definition of "whiteness" to select out the unfit.

And the reason I suspect it is because I have actually met a number of such deranged lunatics in this movement face to face, and and I know that they are still out there!

Not all "snow whites" as I call them - people who refuse to think about the politics and engineering of racial disengagement in realistic ways - concieve of the process of nation splitting as a fun filled orgy of blood and violence.

Nevertheless, it is certainly true that all of the deranged lunatics who are attracted to nation splitting because of the opportunity it may afford for violence and mayhem show themselves as "snow whites" in this senseless debate.

And it is further true that all of those deranged lunatics would have an incentive to misread my 1994 writings for the very reason that those writings discuss ways in which the process of separation can be engineered so as to frustrate their real desires.

There! I have said it.

And I am glad I have said it.

Because it needed saying!..."

Anima Eternae
July 1st, 2004, 12:19 PM
hahaha, funny funny, mebbe you'll grow up to be governor of Caleefornia some day.

I dont make too much out of this post. Ygg talked in this series of essays about transitions from "integrated" society into something new. The whole point was that "genocide" was not absolutely necessary to desegregation.


Yeah but my basic point was that a WN country would segregate people, which is a good thing in my point of view, concerning MY people....seeing how we have no commmunal or geographic unity of any kind.


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Antiochus Epiphanes
July 1st, 2004, 01:10 PM
people would self-segregate if they could. it would come about organically. that's why they need all this bullshit "diversity" propaganda, to fight the natural instinct of like unto like.

Anima Eternae
July 1st, 2004, 01:56 PM
Yes, I agree. 80% of EAs in a poll prefer other EAs for romance. The problem was actually FINDING other EAs.


What a shame...


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Antiochus Epiphanes
July 1st, 2004, 02:04 PM
I'm telling you move to Caleefornia there's scads of em out there.

Anima Eternae
July 1st, 2004, 02:22 PM
I got back from California a few months ago. Just LOTS of hispanics and some full asians.


I'm thinking about Hawaii, though......(too bad I have no cash to move there).



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Antiochus Epiphanes
July 1st, 2004, 03:19 PM
I got back from California a few months ago. Just LOTS of hispanics and some full asians.

I'm thinking about Hawaii, though......(too bad I have no cash to move there).

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Yep Hawaii is a beautiful place to visit or live. Better learn to speak Nip though. They own it.

You could move to Phillipines they have tons of halfcastes there spawn of sailors plus traces of old Spanish blood.

Anima Eternae
July 1st, 2004, 10:13 PM
You could move to Phillipines they have tons of halfcastes there spawn of sailors plus traces of old Spanish blood

Filipinos? Um...no thanks. Have you seen the average IQ for their country? 85 I think. And it's a second world country! Vietnam is third world and has an IQ of 98 or so.



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EdbergEdberg
July 1st, 2004, 11:55 PM
OK, I did not realize that AE was part Asian until I read this thread.

My younger sister recently married a very intelligent, very handsome and very successful white man who was formerly married to a Japanese woman. He has two half-Asian daughters by this previous marriage.

The sad thing is that he got his nuts clipped before he divorced his Jap wife. A very sad situation, because when you consider his looks, brains, musical talent, athletic ability, etc., this guy is a top two percenter among whites. Too bad his parents were very liberal Baptist missionary types who raised him up to be totally anti-racial in his thinking.

I have not met his daughters, but the pictures he has shown me reveal two attractive young girls. I'm sure he loves them very much.

I'll admit that I worry about these girls. From what I know about Asian societies, they usually reject half-breeds. But knowing what I do about the coming racial chaos in the US, I know what the future holds in store for them. Their father made a foolish mistake in life. His father made a foolish mistake, too, that led to his son's mistake.

Could I be so hard as to execute these girls for the mistake of their father? No, I could never do that.

Perhaps it is inevitable that a small community of half-Asians will have to form someplace. While I would find it easy enough to be friendly with and on amiable terms with such a community, I could never accept them as members of my own tribe and nation.

It's a sad and tragic situation... especially when you know people who are a part of the tragedy.

JacksonInTheValley
July 2nd, 2004, 12:25 AM
I've read McDonald and he's hardly "hardocore", but he does name the Jew. As for...




I can't speak for the asians, but it would make me very happy if a future WN state put all the Eurasians together (somewhere). Fuck the "asians". So like in 30 years when you guys come to power, remember this post. Please?

My entire dreams of ethnic nationalism are hinging on you guys! You're my only hope!

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Actually, I've been giving it some thought, Plasma. Maybe there's room for y'all after all. Since the Jews now have Israel, I guess they don't need the Jewish Automous Oblast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Oblast) in the Russian Federation, do they?

Bonus for you guys, you'd be living near real Eurasians -- as in Central Asians. Plenty of people expressing roughly your own phenotype.

Anima Eternae
July 2nd, 2004, 12:33 AM
Actually, I've been giving it some thought, Plasma. Maybe there's room for y'all after all. Since the Jews now have Israel, I guess they don't need the Jewish Automous Oblast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Oblast) in the Russian Federation, do they?

Bonus for you guys, you'd be living near real Eurasians -- as in Central Asians. Plenty of people expressing roughly your own phenotype.

Plasma? :rolleyes:


Hey doesn't sound bad. The only problem of course, would be a lack of seaports. Hell, I wouldn't care if we were annexed into China/Russia just for seaport access. Landlocked areas usually suffer economically. Right now my primary concern is geographic and communical unification. Nationalism and economic independence itself is a secondary goal.



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Karl Ramstrom
July 2nd, 2004, 12:39 AM
EE said: "The sad thing is that he got his nuts clipped before he divorced his Jap wife."

I find it rather odd that your younger sister is willing to sacrifice motherhood by marrying this wife-dumping, nutless race-traitor. Judging by the available evidence, it sounds like she's headed for a dumping herself, once nutless finds himself even fresher pussy.

Anima Eternae
July 2nd, 2004, 12:56 AM
OK, I did not realize that AE was part Asian until I read this thread.

My younger sister recently married a very intelligent, very handsome and very successful white man who was formerly married to a Japanese woman. He has two half-Asian daughters by this previous marriage.

The sad thing is that he got his nuts clipped before he divorced his Jap wife. A very sad situation, because when you consider his looks, brains, musical talent, athletic ability, etc., this guy is a top two percenter among whites. Too bad his parents were very liberal Baptist missionary types who raised him up to be totally anti-racial in his thinking.

I have not met his daughters, but the pictures he has shown me reveal two attractive young girls. I'm sure he loves them very much.

I'll admit that I worry about these girls. From what I know about Asian societies, they usually reject half-breeds. But knowing what I do about the coming racial chaos in the US, I know what the future holds in store for them. Their father made a foolish mistake in life. His father made a foolish mistake, too, that led to his son's mistake.

Could I be so hard as to execute these girls for the mistake of their father? No, I could never do that.

Perhaps it is inevitable that a small community of half-Asians will have to form someplace. While I would find it easy enough to be friendly with and on amiable terms with such a community, I could never accept them as members of my own tribe and nation.

It's a sad and tragic situation... especially when you know people who are a part of the tragedy.

I completely missed this post.

Yes, studies show that eurasian IQ/GPA/SAT usually falls between the white/asian averages...showing that we are intelligent, and the race is much more than looks. The part that worries is me is the fact that white/asian kids tend have higher rates drinking/depression/suicide compared to other mixed race kids. No doubt due to the fact their mix often doesn't lend them to look like one race (compared to half negroes and hispanics). Alot of us look more asian, alot of us look 50/50, and some of us even look more white (such as myself, or Nina Brosh (http://dune2003.free.fr/Supermodels/Nina%20Brosh/images/3.jpg))

By breaking the chain of asian and whites used to create us and instead sustaining ourselves with our own kind, our youth will not have to deal with this sort of identity conflict, especially if they are raised around other eurasians in the community.

I do not purport to be white, nor do I purport to be asian. My goals for right now are simply geographic and communal unification of my people. Which seems impossible given the very nature of our existence is dispersed. And yes, many asian societies reject mixed kids (though less so if they are part white). The countries that do this are primarily the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese. Some countries however, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, and the Philipines worship us as gods (see what lack of cultural pride will do). Case in point: Thailand is 90% ethnic thai, yet their celebrity roster is 75% eurasian).

So as long as some sort of widespread racial epiphany happens anywhere...I'm not too worried about finding a place for us. Unfortunately, though I am only 20, I may not live to see if that day occurs.


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FranzJoseph
July 2nd, 2004, 02:03 AM
Perhaps it is inevitable that a small community of half-Asians will have to form someplace. While I would find it easy enough to be friendly with and on amiable terms with such a community, I could never accept them as members of my own tribe and nation.

It's a sad and tragic situation... especially when you know people who are a part of the tragedy.

I just don't see the tragedy. My niece is half-filipina and totally American, and to look at her you might think she's an Italian or French girl with unusual eyes.

There's tons of kids like this thanks to the US Imperial troops. Part-Japanese, part-Korean, soon to be part-Iraqi, etc. Imperium blends races because they place communities of Americans in proximity to lots of other kinds of people. This part of race-mixing you chalk up to history and forget about. When imperialism runs out of gas, so does this sort of mixing.

And it's eternal. It's never not happened. Romans on the frontier married hot Gaulish girls. The best Ohio frontiersman was Simon Girty who married a Shawnee girl and never looked back. Fought against Mad Anthony Wayne at the Battle of Fallen Timbers here in buckeye country, and nobody held it against him. He was looking after his wife, what the hell?

This goes in the bin marked "don't sweat the small stuff." Races blur a little at the borders. It don't matter.

Chris.V
July 2nd, 2004, 02:14 AM
Im not going to read this whole thread. I'll just say this, we all know jjt's beliefs, and he seems to love the guy. That says it all :D

wintermute
July 2nd, 2004, 06:52 AM
I can't speak for the asians, but it would make me very happy if a future WN state put all the Eurasians together (somewhere). Fuck the "asians". So like in 30 years when you guys come to power, remember this post. Please?

This is not a worry. I hashed this out, with wise counsel, a year ago on Original Dissent. Your future homeland, already plotted out for you by White co-conspirators who regard themselves as the proud parents of your burgeoning race, for which we have the highest hopes, will be called Anime Island. Current projected locale: New Hampshire.

There was some concern that Anime Island would quickly develop a Giant Robot defense force that would pose some danger to surrounding WN homelands; hence it was decided that a moratorium on Giant Robots and a series of treaties with the native Totoro population would be used to enlist them as the guardians of peace between our peoples that would last for a thousand years.

On a more serious note, younger WNs often have EA/Anime pals who they regard as a very attractive and interesting experiment (in the sense of what sort of culture you guys would produce if given your own polity - I mean, we already know you're biologically viable); for that reason, and because we, too, wish the company of our own to work out our own destiny with due diligence and without foreign interference, we have agreed to create Anime Island according to the following paramaters (post from 07-03, at Original Dissent, by Wintermute, Leveller, and Edana):



originally posted by Wintermute
Here's my Oslo plan for him and his kind (presumably, geeky whites with Asian wives) - and us, too.

We put aside one of the smaller states, probably New Hampshire. I say N.H., because at the particular time in the future when White Nationalism is enjoying some success, that state will probably be under the control of Libertarians via the auspices of the Free State movement.

Libs say they're non-racial, and they are pretty non-racial, for a 99.99999% White Male movement. New Hampshire will probably end up looking like prewar Austria when they've dismantled the controls on discrimination and ended welfare. The remaining .00001 of the population will be a gigantic statue of Ayn Rand, with whatever cabal of "individualist Jews" who are appointed keepers of her memory, whoevers sandals are washed by Leonard Peikoff, or however that works. I'm a little rusty on the details of rabinnical sucession - especially for female rabbis.

But I digress.

In a grand proclamation by Franco, our new Minister of Propaganda, N.H. will be pronounced 'Anime Island', where Whites and East Asians will be encouraged to mate with each other to create, not a Master Race, but rather a race of wide-eyed, small-mouthed, gadget-mad proto-Elves with big spiky hairdos in non-natural colors. A special syncretic religion, marrying the best in Catholic iconography with the mythology of Ameratsu, the Sun Goddess, and the films of Hayao Miyazaki, will be created to serve this new race, along with comic-book "manga" Bibles to enculturate the young . Men will have authoritative, masculine voices, but will lack the ability to grow any hair on their bodies until they are eighty years old, at which point they will miraculously sprout meticulous white beards. Women will appear as they ordinarily do, but will speak in fetishistic childlike whispers. Also, their eyes will take up three fourths of their faces, and they will occasionally have sex with Octopi (unless this violates new miscegenation laws).

Travel, of course, will be hovercraft, motorcycle, or futuristic monorail only, and all rainstorms will occur in a slightly sylized Asiatic manner.

What's a little genetic capital if you can't splurge every now and again?

Edana added the following provision to the plan:

Hahaha! Animals will also be genetically mutated to create small, floating, fuzzy pets of questionable species to be dispensed as sidekicks to the youth.

Leveller pointed out the major security concerns:

Don't forget heavily armed giant robot vehicles, presumably supplied by the super-productive Randians. A Randian/Anime alliance could be a real threat to global security.

To which I replied:



Good Lord!

I hadn't considered that.

The Aryan Defence Forces of the larger WN state will have to enforce some sort of moratorium on RMPs (Robots of Massive Proportions) and exoskeleton design generally. I'm sure all of the genetically engineered PUGOs (Pets of Unknown Genetic Origin) will make up for it, in the minds and hearts of the 'Animes'.

I think an independent defence treaty with giant Totorros might be advisable, by way of enforcement on the RMP ban.

Thanks for bringing these points to my attention.

Giant Objectivist Robots are the last thing we need. Their more diminutive cousins, the Randroids, which currently dot collegiate and libertarian environments, are enough trouble as it is.

Therefore, Anima Eternae, be of good cheer: the whites *I* know and like are all very enthusiastic about Anime Island, even if we can't promise it will all be exactly as I describe above.

Now, go and spread the word about Jews - it will hasten happier days for us all, White, Asian, and Anime alike.

Wintermute

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 2nd, 2004, 09:16 AM
hmm, all the so-called individualist jews (oxymoron) to infest one location, I'd advise friendly half-castes like anima to stay away because they might catch some fallout from a "sampson option" put to good use.

The Final Solution
July 2nd, 2004, 09:21 AM
Many have misread my writings from 1994.

This tends to happen to those with a convoluted writing style or fuzzy ideas or (most frequently) both. Such as "inner party." Perhaps there's a WN technical editor out there who can explain Nggdrasil better then Nggdrasil can.

Non white races will be denied citizenship absolutely.

Well...maybe not so absolutely:

I guess it all depends on your definition of a Jew.

If you accept the Talmud definition (child of a Jewish mother) then half breeds with a Jewish father are eligible to stay.

I would prefer to run a quick check on their politics first.

Then we have the problem of the 2% of Jews who voted for George Wallace back in 1968. I actually befriended one of these in college (he grew up in Newark and went to a black public school - had to pack a gun!) I was a conservative back then and it was he who first explained to me how dangerous his fellow Jews were to the future of the US. I knew lots of Jews in high school but not a single one like this guy.

He was WN through and through.

Unless he has changed, he should be eligible.

Point is, the real world is a messy place.
The thing that tics me off about this argument we are having is that we are quibbling about words rather than end results.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=2279&highlight=judenfreund

Die judenfrage=quibbling about words? I sure hope I'm not misreading him yet again (this not from 1994 but posted on that censored forum last year), but he seems to be stating that if a kike voted for Wallace, was Nggdrasil's personal friend, or otherwise agrees with his "politics," the kike is a WN and is "eligible" for something. If that something, perhaps "to stay" as in his prior usage, is citizenship in Niggdrasiland, then he is either a JAREDite who considers kikes White, or a very radical kahnservative proposing an ahistorical notion of nationality based on neither location, culture nor Race, but on [Niggdrasil's personal] ideology. Imaginative, but not WN. If "eligible" or "stay" means something more nuanced, he needs to explain it so that we don't continue the unfortunate tradition of "misreading" him, and he also needs to tell his kike-"WN" friend at once that he can't be a citizen of Niggdrasiland .

After all, driving away one third of our population over a short period of time will produce an economic depression that will last a number of years.

I'd just love to see his model, esp. if it incorporates the effects of driving away far more then 1/3 of our costs of: crime and crime prevention, welfare, AIDS and other self-inflicted health care costs, remedial edjewcation, etc., together with the benefits of the Aryanization of all kike assets. And with all this, if Niggdrasil's model still outputs a decline in the standard of living of the average White man, the decline should be quantified so that all White men can decide for ourselves whether we're willing to take the hit in the wallet to be rid of muds and kikes.

The devil is in the details.

I prefer: keep it simple stupid. Then you won't be "misread" so often.

I hate having to discuss this issue in public, but when I am continually provoked by people who refuse to understand fairly simple social engineering and economic processes that must attend a racial separation, I cannot help suspecting that I am talking to some deranged lunatic who really wants to kill his fellow whites using his own special definition of "whiteness" to select out the unfit.

I'd hate to have to explain Nggdrasil's twisted ideas too. Might even have to resort to the old persecution complex ("continually provoked"), bullshit ("social engineering") or straw men ("deranged lunatics"), all, as it happens, kike tactics. BTW, I didn't know this til this thread got resurrected, but it now seems that Nggdrasil is also a globalist, giving some credence to Irish Jay's comment that he is really a neokahnservative:

A separate White nation would establish a policy of free trade with its new neighbors. Labor markets are global, and the formation of a White nation would not protect Whites from economic competition.

http://www.stormfront.org (FAQ page)

Herman van Houten
July 2nd, 2004, 10:35 AM
The question is again: WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?
Didn't Hitler have the right idea by including those that served honourable, because that's a very small percentage of the "jews" anyway?

And about Anime Island, why not give Hawaii to our asian-european comrades?

Anima Eternae
July 2nd, 2004, 12:31 PM
This is not a worry. I hashed this out, with wise counsel, a year ago on Original Dissent. Your future homeland, already plotted out for you by White co-conspirators who regard themselves as the proud parents of your burgeoning race, for which we have the highest hopes, will be called Anime Island. Current projected locale: New Hampshire.

There was some concern that Anime Island would quickly develop a Giant Robot defense force that would pose some danger to surrounding WN homelands; hence it was decided that a moratorium on Giant Robots and a series of treaties with the native Totoro population would be used to enlist them as the guardians of peace between our peoples that would last for a thousand years.

On a more serious note, younger WNs often have EA/Anime pals who they regard as a very attractive and interesting experiment (in the sense of what sort of culture you guys would produce if given your own polity - I mean, we already know you're biologically viable); for that reason, and because we, too, wish the company of our own to work out our own destiny with due diligence and without foreign interference, we have agreed to create Anime Island according to the following paramaters (post from 07-03, at Original Dissent, by Wintermute, Leveller, and Edana):





Edana added the following provision to the plan:



Leveller pointed out the major security concerns:



To which I replied:




Therefore, Anima Eternae, be of good cheer: the whites *I* know and like are all very enthusiastic about Anime Island, even if we can't promise it will all be exactly as I describe above.

Now, go and spread the word about Jews - it will hasten happier days for us all, White, Asian, and Anime alike.

Wintermute



^LOL funny shit.


The question is again: WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?
Didn't Hitler have the right idea by including those that served honourable, because that's a very small percentage of the "jews" anyway?

And about Anime Island, why not give Hawaii to our asian-european comrades?


Sounds good to me. They've already got a high eurasian population. Or maybe a chunk of California that already has suitable demographics. I could care less about economic or national independence. I just want my kind to live and share a community together.



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Antiochus Epiphanes
July 2nd, 2004, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=999]The question is again: WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?
Didn't Hitler have the right idea by including those that served honourable, because that's a very small percentage of the "jews" anyway?
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There was not a small number of mischlinges, and that is why Nuremberg law dealt with them as it did.

If you want a detailed discussion of Hitler's case-by-case "Aryanization" proclamations, and the Nuremberg laws, and the Halacha, here is a good book:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0700611789/qid=1088789822/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-4858677-9812746?v=glance&s=books

Dont worry about making exceptions for the mythical "good" Jew. We arent in a position of power to do anything about the the other (100%? 99%? LOL) so it's barely worth discussion.

Suffice to say, that the big Jews, the queen bees, like rabbis and activists and scholars and politicians, will sacrifice little jews, especially poor religious ones, at the drop of a dime provided there is an ascertainably positive tradeoff for the sacrifice. The Jews make good chess players and the sacrifice of a pawn for a better piece is usually a good move.

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 2nd, 2004, 02:51 PM
LOL Hawaiians probably own most of the Island right now under the Kamehameha trust, but they are so fat and slow due to excessive poi intake the Japs own everything else-

If the "Hawaiians" who are about as mongrelized as the average "native americans" ever had sovereignity back they would probably sell rights to everything to the Japs in exchange for a pocketfull of trinkets. The Japs in turn would probably run things not that different than what it looks like now except there would be less room for Jews and Chinks on the island than there is now which would be fine by me. And before you know it Hawaii would be Okinawa East. Which is pretty much what it is now anyhow.

Anima should move there and be the VNN sleeper agent LOL

Anima Eternae
July 2nd, 2004, 03:50 PM
Haha, ninjas are good for that kind of shit.


But seriously, I could care less where it is besides Death Valley. As long as my kind get to stick together geographically, it's all good.


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Herman van Houten
July 2nd, 2004, 06:17 PM
I was also thinking about the area of Kazachstan in Central Asia, because the population there is eurasian anyway. Only problem is there is no sea access. (But the Swiss don't have that either and they don't mis it.)

Anima Eternae
July 2nd, 2004, 10:12 PM
Isn't Khazahstan...full of well...Khazachstanis?


Minimum hassle would either be hawaii or small chunk of california/canada (de-hispanified, obviously).


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FranzJoseph
July 3rd, 2004, 02:31 AM
Wilmot Robinson dealt with all this in his sadly neglected little gem, The Ethnostate. Old Wilmot believed there could be a peaceful and un-sloppy racial land division in America and I think it will be unpeaceful and very sloppy.

Still worth looking into.

Anima Eternae
July 3rd, 2004, 03:27 AM
It depends on the races involved.

If you had negro/hispanic neighbors it would get quite sloppy. They rely too much on others, but I have no doubt that a white, asian, or ea community would be successful segregated.


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Herman van Houten
July 3rd, 2004, 04:04 AM
Wilmot Robinson dealt with all this in his sadly neglected little gem, The Ethnostate.

Thanks for giving me this title. :)
Years ago I read a review or extracts from it, but I could never find it back. He had the right idea and finding the article again will be much easier now.
As I remember it gave a perfect method of peacefully creating seperate ethnic states.

Central Asia is already inhabited by a eurasian population. And it has huge areas that are not densely populated. One of the most famous and effective Eurasians in history Djengiz Khan came from there. I think the natural habitat of Anime Land would be there.

Anima Eternae
July 3rd, 2004, 12:59 PM
Central Asia is already inhabited by a eurasian population. And it has huge areas that are not densely populated. One of the most famous and effective Eurasians in history Djengiz Khan came from there. I think the natural habitat of Anime Land would be there.

By, eurasian, I assume you mean people of approximately 50/50 european/asian blood? If they're just mongols....I'm not too fond of the weather/climate, either (I guess geography class came in handy). But obviously, I'm not too picky, but I don't want us to economically starve.

And jeez, the anime island thing was a joke, ya? No one's gonna take me seriously if I call it anime island. LOL


Alright since the threads gettin' big anyways:

By hardcore what really was meant was that if any of KMacs Kike trilogy were attempted to be published in Canada or Europe they would immediately be banned.

Look at what David Irving went through a few years ago in England.


Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm not familiar with the "hate speech" laws in other countries.





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Herman van Houten
July 3rd, 2004, 01:44 PM
http://tramp.travel.pl/photo/00235/duze/kazachstan.jpg

Plenty oil and other goodies. This area could become an economic powerhouse if the kikes don't steal everything in it.

http://www.missintercontinental.tv/images/tmotw/2003/_Top-Model-Kazachstan---Mar.jpg

Miss Kazachstan.

The mixture european/asian genes seems to be 50/50 from what I see although this is obviously not 1st generation.

"Anime Island" is a joke but it might stick as a nickname like Krautland.

Anima Eternae
July 3rd, 2004, 02:18 PM
http://tramp.travel.pl/photo/00235/duze/kazachstan.jpg

Plenty oil and other goodies. This area could become an economic powerhouse if the kikes don't steal everything in it.

Hmm...looks nice. It has sea access, even if it isn't ocean access.



http://www.missintercontinental.tv/images/tmotw/2003/_Top-Model-Kazachstan---Mar.jpg

Miss Kazachstan.

The mixture european/asian genes seems to be 50/50 from what I see although this is obviously not 1st generation.

"Anime Island" is a joke but it might stick as a nickname like Krautland.

Yeah, I might be dating a 3rd generation EA soon. I kinda like it. Problem is, I think Kazakhstan is majority Muslim. Ugh.


Well, I better stop pipe-dreaming for now....


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FranzJoseph
July 3rd, 2004, 02:36 PM
If you had negro/hispanic neighbors it would get quite sloppy. They rely too much on others, but I have no doubt that a white, asian, or ea community would be successful segregated.


I consider that last point proven already. Navahos and Commanches are at least *part* Asian genetically and they're among the most ruthless racial segregationists on the North American continent. "Indian Reservations" were all small ethnostates by design, and Indians themselves were the ones who insisted on making the rules the way they are.

(VDARE once ran an article by a Native American lawyer in which he baldly told Europeans to "learn from his people" about keeping to themselves! It's got to be old by now and might not be linked anymore, but I'll check.)

It's the precisely the "negro/hispanic" part that's the rub. They will be far and away more populous for awhile, are adapting least well, and are the ones polite upper class wonks are forbidden to speak honestly about.

That kinda guarentees "sloppy."

Anima Eternae
July 3rd, 2004, 02:44 PM
I consider that last point proven already. Navahos and Commanches are at least *part* Asian genetically and they're among the most ruthless racial segregationists on the North American continent. "Indian Reservations" were all small ethnostates by design, and Indians themselves were the ones who insisted on making the rules the way they are.


Part mongoloid. Mongoloid is a broad racial term, just like caucasoid (which includes most Jews, turks, etc). But enough of my stupid nitpicking.


I agree, look at most full asian countries. Ethnocentric beyond belief...but still polite and friendly to most tourists. My kind would do well to throw away thier media brainwashed equality culture views and embrace their asian-side ethnocentricism.



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diabloblanco92
July 3rd, 2004, 02:55 PM
I completely missed this post.

Yes, studies show that eurasian IQ/GPA/SAT usually falls between the white/asian averages...showing that we are intelligent, and the race is much more than looks. The part that worries is me is the fact that white/asian kids tend have higher rates drinking/depression/suicide compared to other mixed race kids. No doubt due to the fact their mix often doesn't lend them to look like one race (compared to half negroes and hispanics). Alot of us look more asian, alot of us look 50/50, and some of us even look more white (such as myself, or Nina Brosh (http://dune2003.free.fr/Supermodels/Nina%20Brosh/images/3.jpg))

By breaking the chain of asian and whites used to create us and instead sustaining ourselves with our own kind, our youth will not have to deal with this sort of identity conflict, especially if they are raised around other eurasians in the community.

I do not purport to be white, nor do I purport to be asian. My goals for right now are simply geographic and communal unification of my people. Which seems impossible given the very nature of our existence is dispersed. And yes, many asian societies reject mixed kids (though less so if they are part white). The countries that do this are primarily the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese. Some countries however, such as Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, and the Philipines worship us as gods (see what lack of cultural pride will do). Case in point: Thailand is 90% ethnic thai, yet their celebrity roster is 75% eurasian).

So as long as some sort of widespread racial epiphany happens anywhere...I'm not too worried about finding a place for us. Unfortunately, though I am only 20, I may not live to see if that day occurs.


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Hmmm....we will give you a small buffer state between The Iranian Aryan Empire (Which together with Russia will take back and Re-Aryanize Central Asia) and Mongolia

diablo

diabloblanco92
July 3rd, 2004, 03:04 PM
http://tramp.travel.pl/photo/00235/duze/kazachstan.jpg

Plenty oil and other goodies. This area could become an economic powerhouse if the kikes don't steal everything in it.

http://www.missintercontinental.tv/images/tmotw/2003/_Top-Model-Kazachstan---Mar.jpg

Miss Kazachstan.

The mixture european/asian genes seems to be 50/50 from what I see although this is obviously not 1st generation.

"Anime Island" is a joke but it might stick as a nickname like Krautland.

Nope, he can't have it. Its about 45% Euro Aryan, 5% Irano-Aryan (Tajik), amd the rest Mongol or Mongol-Aryan hybrids.It was about 56% Aryan (Mostly Slav, back in the Early 60s as the Czar and later the Bolsheviks settled millions of Slav peasants there,and it briefly re-attained an Aryan majority (It was Aryan since the beginning of time before the Mongol genocide of 800-900 years ago, in which over 2o million Iranian Whites were killed.
We are going to take it back, split it between Iran and Russia, and send its Mongols back to Mongolia.

diablo

Herman van Houten
July 3rd, 2004, 03:11 PM
http://tramp.travel.pl/photo/00235/duze/kazachstan.jpg

It's already there, orange and all.

And look at the cool names of the cities. :D

Qyzylorda is my favorite.

Only problem is the moslims, I hoped AE wouldn't have spotted that one, but he did. It will be tough to solve that problem, but it can be done, just as the judeo-christians can be brainwashed or deported.

Anima Eternae
July 3rd, 2004, 03:12 PM
Nope, he can't have it. Its about 45% Euro Aryan, 5% Irano-Aryan (Tajik), amd the rest Mongol or Mongol-Aryan hybrids.It was about 56% Aryan (Mostly Slav, back in the Early 60s as the Czar and later the Bolsheviks settled millions of Slav peasants there,and it briefly re-attained an Aryan majority (It was Aryan since the beginning of time before the Mongol genocide of 800-900 years ago, in which over 2o million Iranian Whites were killed.
We are going to take it back, split it between Iran and Russia, and send its Mongols back to Mongolia.

So if the majority who live in that country aren't white....why would it belong to them? Moreover, the CIA factbook lists it as only approximately 38% 'white' (being german,ukraine,russian).

Look at its location, right at the nexus between europe and asia. It's unavoidable that such a population demography would arrive as it is.


http://tramp.travel.pl/photo/00235/duze/kazachstan.jpg

It's already there, orange and all.

And look at the cool names of the cities. :D

Qyzylorda is my favorite.

Only problem is the moslims, I hoped AE wouldn't have spotted that one, but he did. It will be tough to solve that problem, but it can be done, just as the judeo-christians can be brainwashed or deported.


Yeah, the muslims thing is not cool. But right now they're only 47% muslim. Plus the area is not very developed...but its getting there. No doubt a heavy influx of eurasians would help place develop, as well.

The country is about four times the size of texas, and has a population of about 15 million. Approximately 20-30 million Eurasians would add a much needed boost for the economy.



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FranzJoseph
July 3rd, 2004, 05:13 PM
Part mongoloid. Mongoloid is a broad racial term, just like caucasoid (which includes most Jews, turks, etc). But enough of my stupid nitpicking.


I agree, look at most full asian countries. Ethnocentric beyond belief...but still polite and friendly to most tourists. My kind would do well to throw away thier media brainwashed equality culture views and embrace their asian-side ethnocentricism.

Found it. It was the Comanche David Yeagley's piece on deportation where he made the point about how Indian mini-ethnostates were a good thing:

...But there’s an elixir within America’s own history. American Indian history, rightly understood, provides a very powerful example of “national” self-preservation.

In the face of intrusive foreign culture, Indians preferred segregation and isolation, rather than surrendering our identity.

We sacrificed our place in the new society, to maintain our own values.

Even after American Indians were declared U.S. citizens in 1924, we still preferred being Indian. Indians are protective of our identity. And thus we still have it.

Today, the American government’s moral obligation is to protect the American identity—and not to rob and abuse its citizens to appease its enemies...

Whole thing below (And Yeagley's a good read no matter what he's on about, and he knocks the PC Police every time. A Comanche Ph.D. must really intimidate the lemmings.)

http://www.vdare.com/misc/yeagley_deport.htm

Aryan Lord
July 3rd, 2004, 06:44 PM
"Yggdrasil has stated that Jews should be welcomed as citizens in a "Euro-American" state"

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/wn/wn-10.htm

Who the fuck is this "Yggdrasil" who is so revered on some WN sites? Another JAREDite? Why does VNN link him/her/it without even the disclaimer asterisk given AR and VDARE? What part of NO jews JUST RIGHT is so difficult to understand?


Whoever he is he is a twat for defending the Kikes and whitewashing their record.

JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 01:20 AM
I was also thinking about the area of Kazachstan in Central Asia, because the population there is eurasian anyway. Only problem is there is no sea access. (But the Swiss don't have that either and they don't mis it.)

I tried explaining the difference between Eurasians and half-breed White/Asian mongrels to Anima Eternae on SF a while back, when he was known as Plasma.

He's decided upon his nomenclature, and it's a futile effort trying to convince him that "Eurasians" are people from Eurasia. They are, admitedly, essentially an almagamated race showing varying degrees of admixture among the different nations, but they have been so for many generations.

Anima Eternae
July 4th, 2004, 01:32 AM
Herr douche can say i'm "plasma" all he wants....


Eurasian means something different contemporarily. But like I said to 999, I could care less where it is, as long as its a place for an EA community.




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jozu
July 4th, 2004, 08:26 AM
Speaking of Eurasians (contemporary meaning).

I wonder how viable they would be as an actual ethnicity in their own right.

It cannot be denied that there is a fatal flaw in the white race... that is our excessive individuality. This is what defeats our attempts at racial unity at every turn, and leaves us open to the "racial equality/we are the world" bullshit propaganda that our women overwhelmingly subscribe to.

On the other hand, Asians are physically and mentally weak, but they recognise this and they modify their behaviour accordingly by being more collectivist and less individualistic. Which makes them more nationalistic.

It would seem that a blend of these 2 races could produce favourable offspring. (Not that I would indulge in race-mixing myself).

Herman van Houten
July 4th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Asians are less individualistic and if anyone wants to call this "mentally weak" be my guest.

History teaches us that the genetic combination of asians and europeans can have spectacular results and a eurasian homeland would be welcome.

http://www.samarmagictours.com/images/chinggis_khaan.jpg

Genghis Khan

http://www.1sted.dk/ii/ledere/himmler.jpg

Heinrich Himmler

Anima Eternae
July 4th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Yeah, asians are much less individualistic, but they aren't mentally weak. I think the biggest problem with mixing is fairly common identity crisis in this multicultural crap society. It's just a pipedream for now, but I really hope one day there will be a real ea community, somewhere, anywhere.

My other is problem with EAs is that because of the media, they've been brainwashed to think that they're "asian lite" to just identify as full asian because it's "cool" to be a minority. Give me a break, and treat both sides with equal respect.



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JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Eurasian means something different contemporarily.

Not to everyone, only to half-breed mongrels who feel bad about referring to themselves as half-breed mongrels.

To historians, geographers, ethnographers, etc. the term "Eurasian" still refers to people from Eurasia.

http://www.eurasia.org/
http://www.eurasianet.org/


Now do you think the Center for the Study of Eurasian Nomads (http://www.csen.org/) is dedicated to studying the migration patterns of half-breed mongrels moving from New York to Seattle?

Does the US Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs (http://www.state.gov/p/eur/) study how well White folks get along with half-breed mongrels?

Is the Journal of Eurasian Research (http://www.actr.org/JER/) devoted to studying what stupid video games Plasma... excuse me... Anima Eternae is into?

Is the Eurasian Economic Community (http://www.photius.com/eaec/) the half-breed mongrel dream state that Plasma... excuse me... Anima Eternae has been masturbatorially fantasizing?

I didn't think so. The only people who really refer to half-breed mongrels as "Eurasians" are either touchy-feely PC liberal douchebags or they're half-breed mongrels themselves.

JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Here's the real deal on Anima Eternae:
http://stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=130397&highlight=plasma

Some relevant quotes:

Plasma/Frost and Flame was a he and he was Eurasian.

He basically hated Blacks, Mestizos, and Muslims. He seemed indifferent to Jews.

But he thought that Hapas were some kind of super race.

He would always use anime thingies for his avatars, too.




Plasma: SF, 10/29/03 - 04/18/04 (banned)
Frost and Flame: SF, 04/19/04 - 05/02/04 (banned)
Anima Eternae: VNN, 05/18/04 - present

Must have given up on SF...

By the way, he once posted a thread on SF entitled, "God I hate White people (http://stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=115667&highlight=plasma)."

That says enough for me.

Anima Eternae
July 4th, 2004, 05:26 PM
That's very interesting, but what does that have to do with me? Me and my friend were banned over a year ago on SF, and believe it or not, quite a few mischlings post on SF.

Moreover, I thought you were "done with me?". Tsk tsk tsk, learn some self-control. I appreciate all the attention you've given me, but seriously, who are you to dictate how I use the word "eurasian"? You've obviously got some personal issues to work out, seeing how obsessive you are about me. :D

So, back on track....I'm not picky about any place. ;)


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JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:30 PM
That's very interesting, but what does that have to do with me? Me and my friend were banned over a year ago on SF, and believe it or not, quite a few mischlings post on SF.

Deny it all you want, mongrel. It's quite obvious that you're Plasma/Frost and Flame. Haven't you gotten tired of the charades?

Moreover, I thought you were "done with me?". Tsk tsk tsk, learn some self-control. I appreciate all the attention you've given me, but seriously, who are you to dictate how I use the word "eurasian"?


I'm not dictating how you use it, just pointing out that the only people who use the term "Eurasian" in that way are either worthless PC morons or half-breed mongrels.

You've obviously got some personal issues to work out, seeing how obsessive you are about me. :D

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said almost the exact same thing back when you were Plasma and I gave you another good lambasting.

I'm not picky about any place. ;)


Good, because no place wants you.

Herman van Houten
July 4th, 2004, 05:38 PM
Eurasia is the European-asian continent, Eurasian is a person of mixed asian and european blood.

The word "half-breed mongrel" reminds me of the word "bitch" that Legolas88 used for woman. :rolleyes:

JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Eurasia is the European-asian continent, Eurasian is a person of mixed asian and european blood.

Only in this topsy-turvy, fucked up, multi-culti world that has to appropriate extant racial/ethnic terms to apply to the ever-increasing class of half-White, half-Asian mongrels in order to make them feel better about their wretched state of existance.

The word "half-breed mongrel" reminds me of the word "bitch" that Legolas88 used for woman. :rolleyes:

I am not Legolas88, and I never have been. I did impersonate someone else on here at one time, but I apologized to that person for my behaviour, and have never since used another name on this board.

I am Bogatyr here, as I was at first on SF. I was Bogatyr on Skadi until I was banned for pointing out that one of their mods plagiarized one of my SF posts (no hard feelings, Premisyl).

Now I'm Pan Zagloba on SF and Mountaineer on rebelarmy.com .

jozu
July 4th, 2004, 05:46 PM
I am Bogatyr here, as I was at first on SF. I was Bogatyr on Skadi until I was banned for pointing out that one of their mods plagiarized one of my SF posts (no hard feelings, Premisyl).

Now I'm Pan Zagloba on SF and Mountaineer on rebelarmy.com .

I remember you from SF... you were pretty good!

JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:48 PM
I remember you from SF... you were pretty good!

Thanks! :D

Herman van Houten
July 4th, 2004, 05:53 PM
What does Bogatyr mean?

JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 05:56 PM
What does Bogatyr mean?

The bogatyri were the epic warriors of the Rus cycle of epic poems called bylini.

My favorite, Il'ya Muromets, was famed for being able to kill a hundred (Eurasian) muslims with a single blow.

Anima Eternae
July 4th, 2004, 09:29 PM
wretched state of existance

Yeah, if I looked liked you when I peered into a mirror, I might think the same thing.


Eurasia is the European-asian continent, Eurasian is a person of mixed asian and european blood.

The word "half-breed mongrel" reminds me of the word "bitch" that Legolas88 used for woman

That's what I was thinking...

Moreover, I think Boggie has bigger enemies to sling ad hominem at, instead of someone who doesn't even oppose ethnic nationalism/ideology.


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JacksonInTheValley
July 4th, 2004, 11:04 PM
Here's the deal, guys.

I'm a White man. Moreover, I'm a dedicated White Nationalist. I see a lot of good threads and a lot of potential here at VNN. I'd like to see that potential develop.

Anima Eternae, on the other hand, is a non-White hobbyist who gets his jollies from 'slumming' with the WN crowd. He draws you guys into time-wasting threads about his exploits at some forum for a specific tribe of mixed-breed non-Whites or checking out pictures of lusty little mixed-race wenches, instead of you spending your time doing something worthwhile to further the cause of the White race -- your race.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you guys want to waste your time in a circle jerk with the offspring of race-traitors, go ahead. But then I'll start looking at VNN a lot less seriously.

Goodnight.

Anima Eternae
July 4th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Anima Eternae, on the other hand, is a non-White hobbyist who gets his jollies from 'slumming' with the WN crowd. He draws you guys into time-wasting threads about his exploits at some forum for a specific tribe of mixed-breed non-Whites or checking out pictures of lusty little mixed-race wenches, instead of you spending your time doing something worthwhile to further the cause of the White race -- your race.

Sir, in case you didn't notice, I refrain from posting the more "serious" WN topics. And my threads about the EA forum was posted in the chutzpah lounge, as was my totally sweet ninja thread.

I really do not think if I magically dissapeared, somehow the people who have conversed with me would magically post in other threads, thus resulting in the downfall of ZOG. In other words, people talking to me on a few threads in this forum is not going to destabalize WNism, especially considering I agree on most of the issues.

And moreover sir, do you think simply because you are white that you are more of an ethnic nationalist? I assure you that I am not a hobbyist in my regards of ethnic unity for my own people.


I see nothing wrong with a hypothetical discussion of what happens to whom after future WN state. Many chose not to participate in our discussion, some did. Are you the thought police around here? Shall I discuss "Is [membername here] gay? instead? Unless I am mistaken, I am not a disruptive poster, and on topic more often than not. The fact that I bring up MY ethnic unification goals when its relevent does not diminish anyone else's goals in anyways.

And moreover, that forum at which I post is the ONLY type of discussion area for my people, and that's why I am there. If I create a thread in the chutzpah lounge about whats happening there (and it's relevent because it's still ethnic nationalist related), what do you have to lose?

Good day, sir.





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JacksonInTheValley
July 5th, 2004, 12:29 AM
And moreover sir, do you think simply because you are white that you are more of an ethnic nationalist? I assure you that I am not a hobbyist in my regards of ethnic unity for my own people.

Yeah, I've noticed your (neo-)ethnic pride -- indeed, even your hatred of the Whites of whom you are so envious and desparate to gain to acceptance. It was much more apparent when you were posting as Plasma, but your series of bannings from SF has obviously made you slightly more sophisticated in your attempts to suck up to the White man.

And moreover, that forum at which I post is the ONLY type of discussion area for my people, and that's why I am there.

Bullshit. My little google foray in search of "Eurasian" turned up several "online communities" filled with mixed-race people just like yourself, from the USA to Singapore. A growing tide of the offspring of race-traitors...

If I create a thread in the chutzpah lounge about whats happening there (and it's relevent because it's still ethnic nationalist related), what do you have to lose?

While some here see (perhaps even subconsciously) an advantage to using you to stir up racial tension, I see you and your bikini-clad girlfriend as carrots on sticks, leading VNN astray and weakening its stance.

It's ironic coming from a board whose moderator once rewarded me for "maintaining a hardline stance" on SF.

Anima Eternae
July 5th, 2004, 12:55 AM
Yeah, I've noticed your (neo-)ethnic pride -- indeed, even your hatred of the Whites of whom you are so envious and desparate to gain to acceptance. It was much more apparent when you were posting as Plasma, but your series of bannings from SF has obviously made you slightly more sophisticated in your attempts to suck up to the White man.

Envious? Suck up? Sir, perhaps you are seeing things you want to see? I have no problem expressing a difference of opinion, and just because I chose not to flame like 14 year old does not mean I am "sucking up". I have already stated I post here because it is one of the last few places on the internet where one can talk about race and nationalism without being banned.



Bullshit. My little google foray in search of "Eurasian" turned up several "online communities" filled with mixed-race people just like yourself, from the USA to Singapore. A growing tide of the offspring of race-traitors...


Sir, I am not a "hapa" (which a half negro could be) nor am I a "mulatto". Therefore I do not identify with other "mixed" people. Also, those sites are domineered by PC types.



While some here see (perhaps even subconsciously) an advantage to using you to stir up racial tension, I see you and your bikini-clad girlfriend as carrots on sticks, leading VNN astray and weakening its stance.

It's ironic coming from a board whose moderator once rewarded me for "maintaining a hardline stance" on SF.

How am I weakening anyone, sir? I am simply expressing my opinions. How am I adversely affecting VNN? Will Tom ever break up with Marcia? Will you even answer these questions? Stay tuned...

If you don't like them, then don't read them. Or if you want to confine me to oppositon, talk to the moderators. But sir, it's very lonely in opposition. And more importantly, I am not opposed.



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JacksonInTheValley
July 5th, 2004, 01:14 AM
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.

You've got more than one face, Plasma. Here, you're not opposed, but on SF you say, "God I hate white people."

Which is it?

I look forward to your answer in the morning, though I'm sure you'll try to obfuscate by continuing to claim that you're not Plasma, even though you are.

Anima Eternae
July 5th, 2004, 01:35 AM
Sir, I was banned from SF over a year ago, and I am not "Plasma", and I have never said I "hated white people".


However, I decided to search SF just now, and you might find this interesting.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=115713&highlight=god+i+hate+white

Obviously, you still try to defame my eurasian brethren. So how am I plasma? We are both viet/german/french? Wow, that's solid proof? Do you know how many 50/50, 60/40, or 75/25 people I know of that mix? :rolleyes:



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Herman van Houten
July 5th, 2004, 04:21 AM
Interesting example of the way SF changes posts, then bans users on the basis of those changed posts.

AE is as much Plasma as Bogatyr is Legolas88.

JacksonInTheValley
July 5th, 2004, 08:16 AM
Interesting example of the way SF changes posts, then bans users on the basis of those changed posts. Of course, he'll deny that he went specifically looking for that thread, but the truth is clear.

AE is as much Plasma as Bogatyr is Legolas88.

Sorry, 999, I know you've taken a bit of a liking to VNN's new pet Asian, but the only way he would have known that thread title had been changed is if he himself is Plasma.

I already provided the link to the thread entitled "God I hate white people" (not knowing it had supposedly been changed), so why did he need to search for it? Because he already knew of the existance of the other thread in which Plasma complained about it.

I have no idea what I supposedly have in common with Legolas88, but I assure you it's no more than superficial. The minute I first saw a post from Anima Eternae several months ago, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he and Plasma are one and the same.

I had too many dealings with Plasma not to recognize his modus operandi. You've seen the sign-up/ban evidence I've offered, the fact that they both claim to be a mix of White and Vietnamese, that they both have a reputation for consistantly using anime characters as avatars, that they both believe hapas to be some kind of superior race, that they both try to fit in on WN webboards, that the very name "Anima Eternae," meaning "eternal spirit," indicates that AE feels that we can't keep him down despite his banning from SF, etc. etc. etc.

Now you can consider all of that be circumstancial evidence if you like, but to me it's clear. It's simple pattern recognition, which is the very essence of WN. The fact that there's a nice, friendly nigger here and there doesn't change the fact that they are incompatible with us, just as the fact that there's a half-breed Asian sycophant sucking up to VNN doesn't change the fact that he's a product of the very thing we most vehemently rail against -- racemixing.

By your friends shall ye be known...

MOMUS
July 5th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Recently several VNN poster claimed that Arcadio Ego was the same as Nordblod and Kepler. They were CERTAIN of it. They were dead wrong. Now a bogus Ego posts under the name Merovingian. He does a fair but unconvincing job of parodying Ego. It's enough to convince those with a tin ear for subtle psychological nuance, though, that he is back. Why would Ego parody himself?
Trolls and malcontents easily take on new names or move to new forums but their agenda normally stays the same.
I had no dealings with "Plasma" but I suspect that there are more than one half-blood Eurasian posters. Your vendetta is your business but Anima seems harmless to me. He is possessed of the Kikish notion that the Muslims are "out to get US" and can't seem to wrap his head around the extent of ZOG world control, but his fantasies of a mix-blood nation pose no real threat.

Anima, turn your thoughts to conquering Hawaii; Britannica already speaks of the Neo-Hawaiian local race, a mixture of Polynesian, Caucasian and Mongolian.
You'll fit right in, you could be King!

JacksonInTheValley
July 5th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Recently several VNN poster claimed that Arcadio Ego was the same as Nordblod and Kepler. They were CERTAIN of it. They were dead wrong. Now a bogus Ego posts under the name Merovingian. He does a fair but unconvincing job of parodying Ego. It's enough to convince those with a tin ear for subtle psychological nuance, though, that he is back. Why would Ego parody himself?
Trolls and malcontents easily take on new names or move to new forums but their agenda normally stays the same.

Anima Eternae is not a parody of Plasma; he has indeed become slightly more sophisticated in his dealings with WN since his days as Plasma. His earlier tone made him a magnet for abuse and ripe for banning. Now he's adopted a more conciliatory tone, but he is still one and the same.

I had no dealings with "Plasma" but I suspect that there are more than one half-blood Eurasian posters.

The fact of his unfortunate admixture is clearly not the only factor that leads me to believe that they are the same.

Your vendetta is your business but Anima seems harmless to me. He is possessed of the Kikish notion that the Muslims are "out to get US" and can't seem to wrap his head around the extent of ZOG world control, but his fantasies of a mix-blood nation pose no real threat.

His fantasies may not be a threat, but the fact that he lulls WNs into a false sense of security when it comes to associating with mixed-race persons is a threat.

He's a fifth column.

I'm going to work. Take care, White men, don't put any trust in the bastard offspring of your race and another; they are devious and they hate us (often secretly) because they can never be one of us.

Anima Eternae
July 5th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Sir, I am not Plasma, and I have no desire to continue this ridiculous debate.


And sir, I do not "hate you", nor do I "wish to be one of you". Your obsession with me is sad. You are hypersensitive, and for god knows what reason, you see me as a "threat".

Good day.



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JacksonInTheValley
July 6th, 2004, 12:40 AM
The game is up, Plasma. Read it and weep:
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=82574#post82574

Bernie
July 6th, 2004, 02:07 AM
Prior to Alex Linder beginning VNN, Yggdrasil had exposed and convinced more intelligent people of White Nationalist ideas via the internet than probably anybody other than Dr Pierce. Post Alex, I'll give that honor to Alex.

Absolutely!

YGG is also a most erudite, entertaining writer. Heaps of style. He's your 'thinking Man's anti-semite'. I discovered his site around 1995 and lament again on this forum that I miss his essays. I think he's writing a book which I shall certainly make every effort to purchase.

Anima Eternae
July 6th, 2004, 02:21 AM
Indeed, I only know two white racialists personally, but they were all swayed over by Ygg. He isn't as hardcore as most here would like him to be, but I think his role in converting undecideds has been good.




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JacksonInTheValley
July 6th, 2004, 07:22 AM
What do WN care what happens to such mixed-race individuals? I'm all for putting them on the first ships to China, to let them deal with the problem.

I can guarantee that the Chinese won't give these mixed-race individuals the kind of warm reception they seem to receive at VNN.

Herman van Houten
July 6th, 2004, 07:41 AM
History shows us that it is not wise to support your enemy by supplying them.

I fully support a eurasian homeland and I regard it as an ally against kikenvermin.

JacksonInTheValley
July 6th, 2004, 09:09 AM
History shows us that it is not wise to support your enemy by supplying them.

Supplying them with what? Do you honestly think the Chinese would accept a flotilla of mixed-race individuals? Do you think the racially-aware Chinese would offer them some kind of homeland?

It's far more likely they'd just sink the ships and be done with it. The Chinese don't have the kind of scruples we do when it comes to dealing with such issues. They'd probably view the lot of them as being a disgenic threat, so they would be unlikely to offer them asylum. Hell, China's already overcrowded and underfed. How would they maintain these people?

Likewise, the Chinese have quite a record when it comes to tolerating racial and political minorities. Look what they've done in Xinjiang. Look what they've done in Tibet. Do you think the Chinese are going to offer these people a homeland?

Hell, no. The Chinese tend to act in the best interest of their race first and foremost, which is what I maintain we should do.

Anima Eternae
July 6th, 2004, 12:33 PM
History shows us that it is not wise to support your enemy by supplying them.

I fully support a eurasian homeland and I regard it as an ally against kikenvermin.

Thanks. I believe ethnic nationalism of any race is a threat to the Jewish power structure. But for obvious reasons, eurasians would definately be more palatable as allies than negroes or hispanics. ;) There are quite a bit of racist Eurasians I know personally and online.... and one of them is even a gorgeous female.


Do you honestly think the Chinese would accept a flotilla of mixed-race individuals? Do you think the racially-aware Chinese would offer them some kind of homeland

Sir, there are many areas to be repatriated upon. People like money, too. Almost anyplace, besides Death Valley, I could care less. But you know that.



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