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IrishJay
May 13th, 2004, 10:54 PM
Funny how they use your picture and not Anthony's.

Oh well.

byron
May 13th, 2004, 11:06 PM
I did the interview Jay, whose picture did you think they would take, on of me or one of someone who wasn't there? Do you even have a point, or just up to your old "tricks"?

IrishJay
May 13th, 2004, 11:14 PM
Tricks? Hardly. My point is pretty plain to an unbiased eye.

A picture speaks 1000 words.

After all, you are not the owner of PF records.

byron
May 13th, 2004, 11:33 PM
What percentage of the company I own is not only not known to you, Jay, but it's also neither any of your business nor relevant to absolutely anything.
You are not the owner of Micetrap Records either, Jay, but you seem to do most of his public speaking for him.
Again, do you have any contribution to a discussion, or are you simply here to badmouth your former friends?

IrishJay
May 13th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Once again...you are lumping Micey in with me when I didn't even mention him, nor have I did that for a while. He does his own public speaking, not I. You need to look at that shit somewhere else. Maybe your paranoia is getting the best of you. You have an agenda and it is plain to see. You try to turn this around on me when I am not the one working for some guy who looks about as White as the labourers on my jobsite.

Seriously, did I mention Micetrap? Why bring that up? Deflecting criticism again, B?

Yes, Steve is a good friend of mine, as you once were.... Yes, I defended him against some bullshit but do you think I have that kind of time to do that online often? No. I did it a few times, oh well..shoot me for defending a long time friend. Damn me for having some value in friendship...DAMN ME!!!

I don't care if you own 1% or 100%. I could care less about your life and about Tony's. I don't care if you own the New York Yankees, I was making a point...and a very relevant one at that.

I am contributing to the discussion, this is VNN, not your board where you can control what goes on and stays on. If you don't like your employer/company being talked negatively about, then tough shit. Live with it or don't post.

Former friends? Let's just say I decided not to play the "ehhh...he MAY BE White" game anymore and just live by my convictions instead of some phony games that a lot of people play.

IrishJay
May 14th, 2004, 04:41 PM
That interview and the subject of "hate rock" is being discussed on the MPR message board here:
http://news.forum.publicradio.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/14/1515230

Hey Jay, if you hurry you can get there and bad-mouth us before the niggers and jews get a chance to.........
Bad mouthing...you are the pot calling the kettle black, B.

End of story.

MsVinland
May 14th, 2004, 06:23 PM
Ask yourself something bryon...would you breed with him if you were a woman? Do you actually think you would have beautiful blue eyed Aryan babies if you did? Or possibly some dark haired tamale who's first word is "beans"?

Simple solution. You don't like what you see, you don't order from them nor do you support them. There are plenty of organizations out there that are not "questionable" about their race, or their motives.

Jeff The Pollock
May 14th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Anthony Pierpont is Not White!! The un-trained eye can see that! Hell, someone whos color blind could to.:D

IrishJay
May 15th, 2004, 03:57 AM
You see, B...I'm not the only one. LOL!!!!

micetrap
May 15th, 2004, 04:16 PM
You are not allowed to question Antonio's racial makeup, it is Byron in the limelight now. I guess it's just how the Jew uses the Blacks for their battle, the Mexican's must use the Whites. And I am sure Antonio is much too busy to do interviews, you know, copying NA stickers, trying to pick up White women (Antonio's Angels) and bootlegging cds.

White Flag
May 15th, 2004, 07:18 PM
aside from the www.anthonypiermont.com site, are there any pics of him anywhere else besides that site? if not, why not?

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 09:41 AM
aside from the www.anthonypiermont.com site, are there any pics of him anywhere else besides that site? if not, why not?
Not that I know of, unless people have them in their personal collection.

Why not? Who knows.

micetrap
May 16th, 2004, 10:08 AM
The correct website url is: http://www.anthonypierpont.com/

Also, I did see a few pictures Panzyfaust "fixed up" with Photoshop.... you know the ones... where Metzger is glowing so White he looks like Casper the Ghost... hahaha.

sluggo
May 16th, 2004, 10:47 AM
You see, B...I'm not the only one. LOL!!!!



But what's the point Jay? The threads not about who's white and who's not. How often doe's a mainstream news article actually make White Nationalists look good? From your posts on SF and other sites its clear your a committed racialist Jay, and I have seen you admonish others in the past for going off topic.

You turned what could have been a positive thread into a "lets take a cheap shot at Anthony" thread. I really expected better from you. As for some of the other posters, its pretty clear your comments are based on a few pictures not actually meeting the man would you like to be judged like that?

byron
May 16th, 2004, 11:03 AM
Actually, Jay has met Anthony, in fact at the last show they were at in Detroit Jay was hugging Anthony and buying him drinks.

And of course there are plenty of pictures of Anthony, some of them we have posted publicly, for example, photos of Anthony with:
Tom Metzger
Dr. Pierce
Jim Wickstrom
Griffin
Ken McLellan
Erich Gliebe
Billy (Celtic Warrior)
etc, etc, all of these people Jay and his special friend Micetrap claim are/were intentionally promoting the Mexican Mafia because we "paid them off." All of the hundreds bands and activists whose dedication and commitment are above question have supposedly been duped or bribed, according to Steve and Jay, two confirmed bitter, niggardly bitches.

There is a price for everything.

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 11:10 AM
Sluggo, I met him twice. :)

I am a committed racialist, which is why I do what I do.

Although I have a personal beef with Byron, if he owned PF records entirely it would be different, but he doesn't. Me and B got along great before and it is unfortunate that it is not that way now. A personal issue developed between us because of my comments about Anthony and I can understand his position because he works for PF, but I have my position and many more feel the same way I do. I back down from none of it, here and in person. I will have my debts to pay and I will be collecting a few along the way, such is life when you are as opinionated and outspoken as I.

This isn't a new thing, people saying he is non-White. This was around for a long time and it resurfaces often because new generations come by all the time and meet him, or see pics. Don't think for a second this is a new issue.

People don't say anything because PF does put out releases by popular bands, they like the music and PF does give time and money to the cause. I will never deny that they help out our kindred, but I can't accept that when it is coming from someone who is not White. It is unfortunate that it takes a man like Anthony to do what we need to do.

PF has, for years, undermined those they feel are not worthy enough to be in the business while accusing others of doing the same. Take a look at their stickers which directly parallel the NA stickers except for colour choices and the web url. And they accuse others of doing "bootlegging" type deals.

If you want to look down on me for my comments, I could care less. I know where I stand in the WN world and I know that I have my convictions and stand by them.

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 11:20 AM
Actually, Jay has met Anthony, in fact at the last show they were at in Detroit Jay was hugging Anthony and buying him drinks.

And of course there are plenty of pictures of Anthony, some of them we have posted publicly, for example, photos of Anthony with:
Tom Metzger
Dr. Pierce
Jim Wickstrom
Griffin
Ken McLellan
Erich Gliebe
Billy (Celtic Warrior)
etc, etc, all of these people Jay and his special friend Micetrap claim are/were intentionally promoting the Mexican Mafia because we "paid them off." All of the hundreds bands and activists whose dedication and commitment are above question have supposedly been duped or bribed, according to Steve and Jay, two confirmed bitter, niggardly bitches.

There is a price for everything.
Bitter, nah.... I just don't care about games, politics, money and shit like that. And when we meet again you can save the bitch comment for me then, instead of doing it online, like we agreed upon, let's stick to the facts and not namecalling, you'll get your chance someday. :D

As your little insults mean shit because those who know me on a personal level know where my heart is and being niggardly (you used that word wrong, look it up) and bitter is not my style, nor is it me. And being a bitch is more suited for those who don't have the balls to speak up and say what they mean.

Yes, he and I did hang out in Detriot. As for buying drinks, it was an open bar, and last year I was a lot more diplomatic than I was now and willing to give people the "benefit of the doubt" even though I had doubts. Hel, when I first saw him, I did a double take. Sean from MR was there and he witnessed that (if he remembers), when I asked him where Anthony was and he pointed me to him. Don't get me wrong, Sean didn't say anything or even act anything, but he did see my initial reaction. But, things are different now when I decided to not make concessions about race, so that is the story. I won't deny knowing him as a pal, and getting along with him well if that is what you are trying to do.

The fact is that I applaud him for building PF and doing the things that many of us should be doing, but I cannot justify it from a non-White.

I never said he was a Mexican, I just don't think he is White. People say there are Spainiard skins that look darker than him and you know what...they ain't White either.

I know NUMEROUS people who told me the same thing, but they NEVER speak up. I will never verify those sources, but people who say one thing to your face are saying different shit behind your back. That is a fact.

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 11:25 AM
I love when they resort to name calling.

My part in this is over, we'll meet again, B. Never online again...but off.

If you come to PA, shoot me an e-mail first. We'll do "lunch".

irishjay@faughaballagh.com

diabloblanco92
May 16th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Bitter, nah.... I just don't care about games, politics, money and shit like that. And when we meet again you can save the bitch comment for me then, instead of doing it online, like we agreed upon, let's stick to the facts and not namecalling, you'll get your chance someday. :D

As your little insults mean shit because those who know me on a personal level know where my heart is and being niggardly (you used that word wrong, look it up) and bitter is not my style, nor is it me. And being a bitch is more suited for those who don't have the balls to speak up and say what they mean.

Yes, he and I did hang out in Detriot. As for buying drinks, it was an open bar, and last year I was a lot more diplomatic than I was now and willing to give people the "benefit of the doubt" even though I had doubts. Hel, when I first saw him, I did a double take. Sean from MR was there and he witnessed that (if he remembers), when I asked him where Anthony was and he pointed me to him. Don't get me wrong, Sean didn't say anything or even act anything, but he did see my initial reaction. But, things are different now when I decided to not make concessions about race, so that is the story. I won't deny knowing him as a pal, and getting along with him well if that is what you are trying to do.

The fact is that I applaud him for building PF and doing the things that many of us should be doing, but I cannot justify it from a non-White.

I never said he was a Mexican, I just don't think he is White. People say there are Spainiard skins that look darker than him and you know what...they ain't White either.

I know NUMEROUS people who told me the same thing, but they NEVER speak up. I will never verify those sources, but people who say one thing to your face are saying different shit behind your back. That is a fact.

I have utterly no idea as to this dudes racial pedigree. However, there is ABSOLUTELY NO native Non-White popualtion in Spain (unless you want to count gypsies), any more than there is in Ireland. Its incorrect to imply otherwise, and there are certainly people who have a skin tone as dark as the purported photos of this guy who are100% White. Not only in Spain, but on infrequent occasions in the British Isles (eg Victoria Adams)
Like I said, I never met the guy, and you are certainly free to have whatever opinions you want about him. But the myth of a native NW population in Southern Europe needs to be buried. Spain is not the Dominican Republic or even Puerto Rico.

Diablo

diablo

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 12:26 PM
Diablo, you think everyone is White...your opinion means nothing in this matter.

Please, stay out of this, you have no clue what you are talking about and I am not here to start a Med war again.

micetrap
May 16th, 2004, 01:05 PM
I agree with your statement Bryon... and Panzyfaust Records has proved that... only in America could a nonWhite run a "White Power" company and have a lackey like you run your trap about it. "There is a price for everything" and the deep pockets of Panzy have bought off all the money-hungry types of our scene. Thank god it's such a small percentage though...

sluggo
May 16th, 2004, 02:27 PM
"If you want to look down on me for my comments, I could care less. I know where I stand in the WN world and I know that I have my convictions and stand by them.- Irish Jay"



I wasn't looking down on you Jay as I said I know your a commited WN, I just feel the thread went off topic. Most times I agree with your comments this time I don't. Oh, and I figured you met him before that comment was made to other posters not you. Pesonally, I have never seen the man in the flesh but if he's good enough for HSN, VF, and W.A.U he's good enough for me.

byron
May 16th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Great, so you did a doubletake last year. And you have witnesses that you "did a doubletake." So the fuck what? This proves nothing except that you did a doubletake. Anyone who has seen you in action on Stormfront knows your opinion about anyone that looks like a Med.......Some people think you are a homo, they may have even done a "doubletake" the first time they saw you, would that prove something?
Regardless, for me the line gets drawn between a personal dispute, and a public one. If I ever saw or heard you giving an interview, trying to reach the public, I would support it and hope you represented us well. To take this thread and continue your BS is wrong, to go to the MPR and inject your personal pissiness into what I was doing there is below what I have come to expect from even you two. The role you two have confined yourselves to is one of continually hissing at the rest of us from your rat holes. Jay has repeatedly said that he was not going to continue his internet fussing, on several message boards, but he can't stop because he is obsessed and can't control himself.
I am well aware of how Webster defines "niggardly" and now you know how I define it.

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 02:46 PM
Great, so you did a doubletake last year. And you have witnesses that you "did a doubletake." So the fuck what? This proves nothing except that you did a doubletake. Well, it does prove a point to some and not to others.Anyone who has seen you in action on Stormfront knows your opinion about anyone that looks like a MedYep. I don't hide behind it........Some people think you are a homo, they may have even done a "doubletake" the first time they saw you, would that prove something?Because of the earrings? Maybe the kilt? That is a new one to me. LOL!!Regardless, for me the line gets drawn between a personal dispute, and a public one. If I ever saw or heard you giving an interview, trying to reach the public, I would support it and hope you represented us well.I am glad, and if you did the same thing I wouldn't go on public airwaves and trash you. I like to keep disuptes in house, but I have a hard time with the fact that your boss ins't White and people excuse that. If you gave an interview without PF as your backing, I would applaud you 100%, and that is a fact. Hel, I think you are dedicated, but I don't agree with your specific methods. To take this thread and continue your BS is wrong, to go to the MPR and inject your personal pissiness into what I was doing there is below what I have come to expect from even you two.I NEVER went to MPR and if someone posted there under my name, that is their problem...but that is NOT my style and not the kind of person I am. I talk from behind my name, not some goddamn pseudonym. I would think you know me better than that, Byron. I don't run, hide or back down. What I say will ALWAYS be from my screenname - IrishJay - and unless told otherwise that is how it is. I don't talk shit from behind a wall. The role you two have confined yourselves to is one of continually hissing at the rest of us from your rat holes. Jay has repeatedly said that he was not going to continue his internet fussing, on several message boards, but he can't stop because he is obsessed and can't control himself. Kind of like you and the NA, better yet kind of like what you used to do to Micetrap for years...you and Anthony, son don't preach your shit to me. I hardly ever post about you guys, I don't start threads trashing you or PF and I only respond with facts. If you can't dispute those facts, which you NEVER do, then that is not my problem. Every time I call Anthony a non-White, you go on personal attacks and that is all you do. And I never said I was going to stop, did I. I just cooled it down because it gets annoying, but I will occasionally pop up and respond because it is just so much fun and proves my point.
I am well aware of how Webster defines "niggardly" and now you know how I define it.
Well, you define it fucked up, bro.

We can continue this bullshit forever if you want, I responded, you responded, I respond, you respond and vice versa....

micetrap
May 16th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Jay, it kind of reminds me of how the Jews always bellyache when people question them, yet they are always trying to get people involved with their wars. If it can get them a few sheckles, they will tell the world their sad tales, but if it comes to explaining Antonio's racial make-up, then it's an NA/Micetrap conspiraracy against the poor Panzy crew. What I should do is hire a Nigger to promote my label to the Blacks, because having a Black employee would make the label "Black Power," right?

Byron, don't you have any interviews to give for your boss? haha

IrishJay
May 16th, 2004, 03:00 PM
All this is a HUGE micetrap/ratsistance/IrishJay conspiracy meant to sow discord in the White Power scene...

Yep, we are all in this together to make PF a non-entity.

LOL!!!!

For the record, it was a good article and if Resistance did the same thing I would equally criticize them.

But, I am an asshole for standing by what I believe.

MsVinland
May 16th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Yep, we are all in this together to make PF a non-entity. Not true, they do it to themselves. Since I met anthony in person, I no longer support PF. That is my right, and that is my choice.
Sure you can say that they do alot for the movement. But so do the niggers by proving their degeneracy. Does that mean I should embrace them? Hell no!
Do I want someone like anthony representing the white race? No! Do I want the one's that finally opened their eyes to the truth to see behind the scenes on who runs a white power label? NO!
I think it is a disgrace that he has been able to buy the weak ones for so long.

I'll ask you again Byron, if you were a woman, would you breed with him?

byron
May 16th, 2004, 05:23 PM
I'm sorry, what facts again? "I did a doubletake and I don't think he's White" is that your facts? That's your factual "argument" that I'm supposed to respond to? If so, then I think the fact that hundreds of activists/band members and thousands of customers who have effectively said, and continue to say, "I DIDN'T do a doubletake and we DO think he's White" would be a comparable rebuttal to your "facts".......

If the only wat to shut you clowns up is for Anthony to take a DNA test, then that sounds like the solution to me.

diabloblanco92
May 16th, 2004, 05:48 PM
Diablo, you think everyone is White...your opinion means nothing in this matter.

Please, stay out of this, you have no clue what you are talking about and I am not here to start a Med war again.

Jay, I will not treat this at length, but you have just claimed that I think "everyone" is White. If you will look at the record I have said that the absolute MAXIMIUM for the worlds White population is 25%, more likely about 22-23%.This includes both Euro and Non-Euro Whites Unless you were schooled in some form of the New Math that I am ignorant of this is a long way from "everyone"
I think its fair to say that the4 "Nordish" position on the total White popu8lation is 8-10%. The Pan European position 18-20%, and the Pan Aryan position 22-25%. What all threee of these schools agree totally on is that these figuresare quickly dropping, whatever their actual extent. I hope that we could remember that undisputed fact well enough to pull together enough to avoid universal tragedy for our race...which NONE of us dispute is where we are headed.
As to Anthony, I SAID I lacked personal knowledge, so why are you implying that I rendered an opinion on a subject I deeclined to give one on?
That said there is little alternative but to treat these repeated claims of NW ancestry for WNs with profound skepticism.None of these claims has ever verified.
The only known instance of a signifigant WN figure turning out to be a NON-White was the Felton case, and his "outing"had nothing to do with WNs claiming he was NW, even though his Black admixture should have been manifestly obvious to someone with even a modicum of a knowledge of anthropology.
Amusingly enough the "Nordish " extremist Thule Society enthuiastically accepted Felton as a member, while all the while putting down hundreds of millions of 100% White Meds.

diablo

diabloblanco92
May 16th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Ask yourself something bryon...would you breed with him if you were a woman? Do you actually think you would have beautiful blue eyed Aryan babies if you did? Or possibly some dark haired tamale who's first word is "beans"?

Simple solution. You don't like what you see, you don't order from them nor do you support them. There are plenty of organizations out there that are not "questionable" about their race, or their motives.

An ability to produce dark -haired children does not make you non-White., just as having blonde hair and blue eyes does not insure you are White.
There are loads of Lapp, Khanty and Mari people in far Northeast Europe with blonde hair and blue eyes and manifestly Mongoloid features.
In truth the most pronounced Aryans ever to live were Iranians in ancient Bactria and Sogdiana with extremely pale White skin, jet black hair, very round eyes colored either dark brown or black, perfect grecian noses, thin lips, etc.
Dont get me wrong, the Nords are Aryans too, but they have no exclusive claim on the title, and "blonder and more blue" does not necessairily equal more Aryan.

Diablo

micetrap
May 16th, 2004, 06:08 PM
I would pay 100% of the costs to prove once and for all Antonio isn't White. It won't matter much to those orgs and people bought off by Antonio's payroll, but it would be great proof to show undeniably that he is not White. But then again, everyone already doubts his "Whiteness" anyway, so it would only formally end the discussion... or would Panzy just find another smokescreen to distract people...

byron
May 16th, 2004, 09:51 PM
Of course, it's interesting that Micey has said that he offered, several times, to "bury the hatchett" with Panzerfaust over the years and commence amicable business relations, but that he was rebuffed by Panzerfaust. So now referring to the thousands of organizations and individuals who do business with Panzerfaust as being "bought off" is a bit like calling a girl a slut because she will screw everybody but you. You have to watch that jealousy and bitterness Steve, it will tear you up.
I don't care if Anthony was exposed as half Mexican and half Martian, it won't help you and your ilk from remaining what you are.

IrishJay
May 17th, 2004, 01:20 AM
As far as the DNA test goes, let's do it.

Get a neutral party and get it out there, then we will see what is going on.

As far as the 'ilk' goes....you and your ilk have been slandering people for years who don't agree with the way you do business or who you don't like, and you continue to do so. Trying to tell me you don't would be a bald-faced lie.

If Anthony's test shows he is White, then you will never hear another word from me about this ever again....period.

If it shows he isn't, then we'll have a fucking blast with it, as usual.

Either way, do the damn test.

LOL!! What we are.... I've been active for a long time and I am sooo sorry that you don't like my viewpoints and don't like what you are reading.

Plus, you never answered Vinland's question? So here is one for you...would you approve of a sister of yours or a daughter marrying Anthony and having his kids?

Tough one for you, eh?

Modly
May 17th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Plus, you never answered Vinland's question? So here is one for you...would you approve of a sister of yours or a daughter marrying Anthony and having his kids?

Tough one for you, eh?

Not a tough one for me. :D
My half sister is only 4, so of course I'd be angry if he married her.
Sicko. :p

MsVinland
May 17th, 2004, 09:10 PM
Plus, you never answered Vinland's question? So here is one for you...would you approve of a sister of yours or a daughter marrying Anthony and having his kids?

Tough one for you, eh?That would be a tough one. If he answered yes to my question, that would make him a race traitor. If he answered no, that would make him a hypocrite.

When it comes to DNA testing, I doubt if Anthony would actually agree to it. At least not publically. Would you if you were as uncertain as he is about his heritage? :rolleyes:

Subrosa
May 17th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Actually, Jay has met Anthony, in fact at the last show they were at in Detroit Jay was hugging Anthony and buying him drinks.

And of course there are plenty of pictures of Anthony, some of them we have posted publicly, for example, photos of Anthony with:
Tom Metzger
Dr. Pierce
Jim Wickstrom
Griffin
Ken McLellan
Erich Gliebe
Billy (Celtic Warrior)
etc, etc, all of these people Jay and his special friend Micetrap claim are/were intentionally promoting the Mexican Mafia because we "paid them off." All of the hundreds bands and activists whose dedication and commitment are above question have supposedly been duped or bribed, according to Steve and Jay, two confirmed bitter, niggardly bitches.

There is a price for everything.

Where can we see this guy with Dr. Pierce? I'd be interested in seeing that photo.

Draco
May 17th, 2004, 10:08 PM
As far as the DNA test goes, let's do it.

Get a neutral party and get it out there, then we will see what is going on.

Here ya go:


http://www.dnaprint.com/2003/services/genealogy.htm

"We are currently developing ANCESTRYbyDNATM2.5 and 3.0. The 2.5 version will increase the sensitivity of the current 2.0 version while 3.0 will expand the resolution of ANCESTRYbyDNATM 2.0 by including the inference of intra-continental population affiliations and proportionality. The current ANCESTRYbyDNATM 2.0 can predict mixture of continental origin, but cannot predict mixtures of intra-continental ancestral composition. For example, ANCESTRYbyDNATM 2.0 might indicate that someone is of 100% Indo European descent, while ANCESTRYbyDNATM3.0 might indicate that someone is 60% Northern European and 40% Middle Eastern. If proven successful, ANCESTRYbyDNATM 3.0 will provide added accuracy and will have broad application in the genealogy as well as the forensic market."

If you do it now, and if the racial origin of this Anthony fellow is that important, the version 2.5 test costs $220.00

No blood is involved, you take a swab from the inside of the mouth I believe.

Of course, he'd have to willingly do this, unless someone wants to hold him down and swab him.

Old White Goat
May 17th, 2004, 10:33 PM
Of course, he'd have to willingly do this, unless someone wants to hold him down and swab him.

Or somebody swipes his toothbrush.

Demonica
May 18th, 2004, 11:53 AM
When I first saw the site with the pictures of Anthony I was like, hmm, he is pretty damned dark. But who knows when the pics were taken, some were obviously at rallies, most likely in summer, so unless you have DNA evidence all it really is are assumptions. However, I did order from Panzerfaust, for two reasons. Number one being The Panzerfaust banner which was placed on this site, I trust Mr. Linder's judgement and he wouldn't have put it there if he wasn't supportive of Panzerfaust, and reason 2, none of the other companies had what I was looking for. I will say they are excellent to do business with, I had my order in 2 days, and a couple of free things like everyone said they always tossed in. Also, If you check the links at the bottom of the Pierpont page, you will see banner ads from rival companies at some of the sites. So until someone gets the DNA test, you're working on pure speculation. I've never met the man, therefore I have no opinion as to this subject, other than Panzerfaust handle their business very well.

Tom88
May 18th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Where can we see this guy with Dr. Pierce? I'd be interested in seeing that photo.Here you go:
http://www.panzerfaust.com/pfalert/anthony3.jpg
Anthony, Dr. Pierce and Gleibsky

http://www.panzerfaust.com/pfalert/anthony2.jpg
Tom Metzger and Anthony

http://www.panzerfaust.com/pfalert/anthony1.jpg
Anthony, Griffin from Aryan/Stonehammer and Billy from Celtic Warrior, Broadsword, Retaliator etc.

For what it's worth I've known Anthony for several years, and he's one of the Whitest guys I know. Actions speak louder than words, what have you done for the cause?

I also think it would behoove some of you to read David Lanes piece, "Who is White?" It can be found at http://www.whiterevolution.com/text/whoswhite.shtml


-Tom

Demonica
May 18th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Wow, he's almost as white as his shirt in that second pic. Thanks for the pics, Tom. Like I said I trust the Admins of this site and the banner ya'll put on VNN is the reason I did any business with Panzerfaust in the first place. I don't believe Dr. Pierce or Mr.Metzger would have let themselves be photographed with someone whose racial make-up they questioned.

IrishJay
May 18th, 2004, 05:12 PM
When you meet him, Demonica, you will have a different opinion.

Pictures are not the best indicator, but how about this one?

http://www.faughaballagh.com/panzershit/panzytop.jpg

Any picture can tell two sides of a story...

Meet him first then come back to me.

Furthermore, in that Metzger pic, Tommy is almost sheet white from the overexposure. And Resistance/Panzer ... before the feud that developed between the two did business together for a long time. Business practices often override good judgement.

Demonica
May 18th, 2004, 05:35 PM
Jay, I understand both sides of this story. But something to consider is these guys who go to a lot of concerts tend to be outdoors a lot and tan. I've seen men with blonde hair and blue eyes who were twice as dark as him because they were construction workers or something of the sort. How do you know that pic isn't photoshopped? I cannot fathom Dr. Pierce or Tom Metzger posing for a pic with someone they believed to be mexican, and i would suppose they, if anyone, would have been able to tell. Regardless, I would say it's better to give your money to Panzerfaust than to Jewish corporations. I find it odd the Pierpont site claims to be affiliated with no other organization yet the links at the bottom of the page prove otherwise. You may be right, and maybe one day I will meet the man in person and be able to form a solid opinion. But he seems to be doing a lot for the cause, Panzerfaust gives away a LOT of free stuff, probably the best thing they do is the tapes for prisoners program. I don't see anyone else doing that. Anyway, I'm not defending him personally, I don't know him, but yes, Panzerfaust will continue to receive business from me, because as I have stated, I trust the judgement of VNN admins. Mr. Linder certainly does not strike me as the type to promote a company he didn't feel was worthy for a few bucks.

IrishJay
May 18th, 2004, 05:50 PM
He lives in Minnesota and most concerts are indoors. I tan as well, but I don't have the facial structure, hair and general appearance of a non-White.

I will give credit where credit is due, PF does a lot for the cause such as helping out POW's, giving stuff away for WN fundraisers and releasing WP bands.

However, I cannot justify the owner being what he is, and if you have a different opinion, that is on you. I speak only for myself and I don't expect people to change their views by what I say.

byron
May 19th, 2004, 12:45 AM
I speak only for myself and I don't expect people to change their views by what I say.

Of course you do, or you wouldn't keep saying it. You put yourself forward as the lone brave little warrior of conscience who speaks the unpopular truth even if it means standing alone, blah blah blah....The fact is and remains that, however entitled you are to your personal opinion, hundreds of dedicated bands, activists and organizations, and thousands of customers all disagree with you. You seem to veer back and forth between having the attitude that you don't care if people share your opinion or not, to wildly claiming that me and everybody else who has a connection to PF has been "bought out"..........Your general opinion of dark haired people tells me that, given what you think of people from Spain, Portugal, Italy, etc....even if a DNA test showed no trace of Mexican in Anthony, you would play the Nordicist card and say he still isn't White enough for you.

Some things are not visible and need to be proven, for example if someone was a rat or child molestor, you would have to show paperwork evidence to convince everyone. The face that you see is the face that EVERYONE else has seen for years...........People who were racialists before you were born support PF, so who do you think you are? You obviously have your agenda.........
You still never explained why, in Detroit, after you supposedly did your little "doubletake" when meeting Anthony, you still spent the evening hugging him and buying him beers afterwards.......
Trust me, Tom Metzger doesn't bite his tounge about anybody, and if you and Micey continue telling everybody that Metzger would sell his race out because we "paid him off" you are scrapping whatever is left of your credibility. Metzger fowarded to us Miceys e-mail to him, as well as his reply.
Metzger said he had never heard of Micetrap, didn't know who he was or why he was trashing Anthony, but that he knew and supported Anthony.

Modly
May 19th, 2004, 07:28 AM
You still never explained why, in Detroit, after you supposedly did your little "doubletake" when meeting Anthony, you still spent the evening hugging him and buying him beers afterwards.......


Well, I don't recall Jay doing much besides sitting right next to the Panzerfaust desk, petting his girlie, but I do have a couple of theories.
That show had free beer. Lots of it. It's possible that later on, Jay was just slightly over the tipsy side, and like a normal drunk fella, he got a little heavy with the man love. :D (I had a creator get real drunk once, and he kept hugging me all night long, saying what a great fella I was, so I know it's possible)
The other theory is the Kilt. Maybe he was cold, and felt a major draft in it, so he had to seek warmth. :D

IrishJay
May 19th, 2004, 07:23 PM
LOL...Modly.

I am letting this die.

I said my peace, have for a long time. And to be honest, each and every time this happens here it gets nowhere and it only turns into both sides shouting at each other and to be honest, it does get old on my end and tiring.

Byron, say what you will, but I have a lot of credibility. People know who I am and I stand by what I am and believe. Maybe in your circles my cred isn't high, but I don't care. I live in PA and travel around the tri-state area a lot, and I have LOTS of racialist friends. You know what, if those friends support PF that is on them, I don't preach to them what I am doing here because I really am not in the business to tell others how to live their lives.

And I told you about Detriot, read an earlier post.

I honestly don't care who supports PF, I am not one of those guys who will blacklist an org for supporting a company that I don't see eye to eye with on the race issue, ask WAU about that, I consider a few of those girls my friends and they know how I feel about PF and vice versa. I just live my my own personal standards for my life and I pay my own debts and dish out my own as well. If people want to support PF and do that, that is cool. Maybe I don't agree with it, but that is their choice.

It has nothing to do with dark hair, Byron, it has everything to do with appearance, facial structure and the like.

I am not a Nordicist, but if he does take a DNA test and it comes back 100% European, then I will not question it again...that is how I am. I do not have any agenda, I am merely stating what I believe.

Our personal beef is personal, and I'm sure you and I will have an oppportunity in the future to rectify that personal beef, and I intend to keep it that way....

I feel how I feel about Anthony. Is he a nice guy, yes. Was he gracious to me, yes. Does he fight for our rights and support our cause, yes. Which is what makes this so iffy in my eyes. I just cannot fathom his race and I wish to the gods this shit would get answered in one way or another, just to put it to rest. I just cannot support the business that is run by him, bottom line.

I'm done with the bashing.

White Flag
May 20th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Gliebe in a photo with Anthony?!?! Gliebe is a complete hypocrite. He doesn't care whether Anthony is white or not, he wants ratsistance to pull ahead in the embarressing WP record label war.

Blutfahne
September 8th, 2004, 08:51 PM
I am taking a DNA test soon. I encourage others to do the same;)

Eric Davidson
October 21st, 2004, 05:21 PM
Greetings. Just for the record, I was introduced to Anthony Pierpont through Ed Wolbank of Bound for Glory in the summer of '98. Had either of us considered Anthony as being something other than White, we wouldn't have assisted in getting the music label started. Everyone's free to maintain whatever opinion they like regarding the people in the racial struggle. This is my opinion regarding this issue.

Blutfahne
October 24th, 2004, 11:35 AM
I saw him at hammerfest, he seemed ok,To me...He isn't my ideal of an Aryan Man, or a leader, but he is an ok(I think White, possibly a Frenchmen geneticaly) businessman..

Todd in FL
October 24th, 2004, 06:41 PM
You can take 1000 pix of me and there is NO question of my whiteness. Shaded, in the rain or bad lighting at a concert... I am white and there is NO question.

With Pierpoint there is a question... that's what makes him non white, IMO.

Fuck ya'll who think he is white.

For the record Diablo thinks Tom Araya from Slayer is white.... :rolleyes:

Todd in FL
October 24th, 2004, 07:50 PM
I saw him at hammerfest, he seemed ok,To me...He isn't my ideal of an Aryan Man, or a leader, but he is an ok(I think White, possibly a Frenchmen geneticaly) businessman..

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