My preliminary hearing has been rescheduled from July 24 to August 29.

I thank all you who've donated recently. I have a lawyer and have paid him $1500. That's the going rate for hiring a criminal defense attorney in Knoxville to fight a misdemeanor. I'm facing four, which are all for the same thing. That's called charge-stacking. It's not really legal, but it makes it easier for lazy, corrupt, politicized sacks of shit (think Nancy Grace) to get convictions.

In a very real way, the charge is the punishment, as you have to hire a lawyer and show up to court multiple times. The System can multiply paper endlessly, and force the accused to bear the costs.

The System feels itself aggrieved by our noble actions in Knoxville. There's a dirty little scam going on, after all, and it must be protected. The elite have sold out ordinary Whites. Niggers and mexcrement make the jew-led elite lots of money, and entrench them in power. So the elite are more than willing to overlook these highly profitable muds' peccadilloes like rape and murder. They'd rather throw the book at people like us who tell the truth about this dirty little game. Remember that every single nigger involved with raping and torturing and murdering Chris and Channon, except the cunt, was a felon going in.

I haven't seen the video that somebody here is keeping under wraps but do you think you'll be able to sue the city of Knoxville, attorney fees aside? I'm sure that you appreciate the positive implications for future white gatherings should this case be turned around.

Which can be an unreal pain if you don’t live close to the area in which you were charged. Last time I was in court I had to drive over an hour, wait 4 hours in court waiting for my case to come up only for them to tell me my case was last and court time had run over so I had to come back in a month and go through the entire thing again.




In a very real way, the charge is the punishment, as you have to hire a lawyer and show up to court multiple times. The System can multiply paper endlessly, and force the accused to bear the costs.

I thank all you who've donated recently. I have a lawyer and have paid him $1500. That's the going rate for hiring a criminal defense attorney in Knoxville to fight a misdemeanor.

Hey , a White misdemeanor is the equivalent of a black with 4 class A felonies . You're a very bad man , Mr. Linder , a real heinous criminal .


In a very real way, the charge is the punishment, as you have to hire a lawyer and show up to court multiple times. The System can multiply paper endlessly, and force the accused to bear the costs.

Ya' think ? It would almost seem that the courts and lawyers have a silent agreement . Nah, that's too cynical .


( If you're LUCKY , the charge is the punishment . Otherwise , the punishment is compounded .)

The charge is the punishment is right! I don't know if you recall the "Bellingham 3" case where 3 guys from the Boston area were busted for distributing leaflets in honor of Rachel Corrie, on the 1st anniversary of her getting squashed by a tank in Occupied Palestine.

One of them got a public defender, but two had to pay 3000 dollar retainers. Ultimately, EVERY CHARGE WAS DROPPED. After about 6 court appearances dragging out for a year and a half. I wish I could find the Metrowest Daily News article, it's in "paid archive" but the judge ended up admitting that they should never have been charged in the first place, and even referred to the US Constitution and the founding of the country in his decision.

But despite all that, they couldn't recover the exorbitant attorney fees or compensation for travel and lost time.

Which can be an unreal pain if you don’t live close to the area in which you were charged. Last time I was in court I had to drive over an hour, wait 4 hours in court waiting for my case to come up only for them to tell me my case was last and court time had run over so I had to come back in a month and go through the entire thing again.When this happens, demand to either have your case heard or the charges dropped. I've done this in traffic court. And don't waste your time going to the pre-trial bullshit. Show up for the trial when they say you must, but don't respond unless you are legally obliged to. The courts count on you being an idiot and they really like to take advantage of regular peoples' ignorance.

Show up for the trial when they say you must, but don't respond unless you are legally obliged to.

He has to go to the preliminary hearing. It's in his best interest. Leave the law to those who've been there and done that. Alex has it well covered now.

If you are not obedient to the gubmint they can make your life miserable or kill you. Think Randy Weaver and Waco.

Hopefully Alex you can get through this without too much hassle.

Is the court date still 29AUG07

Best of luck my friend. I am no stranger to fighting trumped up charges on account of my beliefs.

Latest: do not have to go back to Knoxville for hearing tomorrow. Should have more news to report by end of day tomorrow.

Latest: do not have to go back to Knoxville for hearing tomorrow. Should have more news to report by end of day tomorrow.

Could be they plan on dropping the charges. If so, they'll want to do so quietly without jewsmedia reportings, to avoid embarrassment.

Hold a press conference and rub it in Alex, after the ZOG'lings drop the charges. And make sure you tell the "press hounds" you and your attorney will most likely file a $10 million dollar lawsuit against the city. THAT oughta get the attention of Knoxville's tax-paying lemmings.

I hope they drop the charges as well, they bitch about the costs of rallies to the city how about the costs of court proceedings for bogus charges. The absolute worst that should have happened was for the police to ask you to go to "our" side (even though that rule didn't apply to them). The price of being an unapologetic White man in the Kwa.

My case is resolved. Busy tonight, will go on radio tomorrow and talk about it. A couple controlled media pieces have appeared.

My case is resolved. Busy tonight, will go on radio tomorrow and talk about it. A couple controlled media pieces have appeared.

Alex, I hope your case was resolved favorably; or at least with minimum pain on
your part.

BTW, your show is getting better by the day.

-Wagner

http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=7000587&nav=0RYv Not sure what to think.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/aug/30/avowed-supremacist-accepts-deal/?printer=1/

Avowed supremacist accepts deal

Missouri man arrested during rally sparked by deaths of young couple

By Jamie Satterfield

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6114/jamiesatterfieldt100zf8.jpg

Thursday, August 30, 2007


A white supremacist rallied here.

He resisted arrest here.

But Alex Linder opted not to make a return trip to Knoxville to admit his crime.

Linder, a Kirksville, Mo., resident, avowed white supremacist and operator of the Vanguard News Network, entered a guilty plea to a resisting arrest charge Wednesday in Knox County General Sessions Court via defense attorney Stephen Burroughs.

Linder was arrested at the start of a May rally he organized in downtown Knoxville in response to the slayings of a young white couple allegedly committed by four black suspects.

He and the few dozen protesters who joined him, most from outside East Tennessee, latched onto the kidnapping, rape and murder of 21-year-old Channon Christian and 23-year-old Christopher Newsom as a rallying cry against blacks and the media.

According to warrants filed in the case, Linder walked onto a section of Main Street that police had roped off for use by emergency personnel and ignored commands to return to the courthouse lawn with fellow protesters.

When Knoxville Police Department Capt. Gary Holliday and Knox County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Tom Walker confronted Linder, he fought with the pair. The law enforcers ultimately forced Linder to the ground and handcuffed him.

During the fracas, a recording device carried by Walker was damaged, netting Linder a vandalism charge. He also racked up a disorderly conduct charge.

Assistant District Attorney General Jason Hunnicutt told Sessions Court Judge Tony Stansberry on Wednesday that the vandalism charge would be dropped when Linder pays $250 to Walker to cover the cost of the recorder and court costs related to the charge. The disorderly conduct charge also was dropped.

Stansberry sentenced Linder to six months, with a jail term suspended as long as he obeys the law during that time. Hunnicutt noted the plea deal assures that Linder’s otherwise clean criminal record now will bear a conviction, which could boost any punishment he would face if he committed any other crimes.

Christian and Newsom were slain earlier this year in a carjacking turned kidnapping. Three men and a woman are charged in Knox County Criminal Court with those slayings. A fifth faces arraignment today in U.S. District Court on a beefed-up indictment alleging that he helped the alleged ringleader of the double murder hide out.

Linder and his ilk have insisted that the slayings should be classified as hate crimes. Authorities, however, have said there is no proof that the couple were targeted because of their race.

Jamie Satterfield may be reached at 865-342-6308.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22jamie+satterfield%22&btnG=Google+Search

Useful idiot N.P.R. loving bull dyke.

Useful idiot N.P.R. loving bull dyke.

And ugly as hell to boot. Excessive force becomes resisting arrest. Uses the work ilk in relation to Linder but never disparages the nigger animals with nouns and adjectives. Insinuates Linder is cowardly because he opted not to make a return trip to Knoxville to admit his crime. Never mind that that was completely within his rights. Suggests that Linder better watch his step now that he has a bogus misdemeanor charge against him. And then the coup de grace....Authorities, however, have said there is no proof that the couple were targeted because of their race.

I hate this fuckin country!

And ugly as hell to boot. Excessive force becomes resisting arrest. Uses the work ilk in relation to Linder but never disparages the nigger animals with nouns and adjectives. Insinuates Linder is cowardly because he opted not to make a return trip to Knoxville to admit his crime. Never mind that that was completely within his rights. Suggests that Linder better watch his step now that he has a bogus misdemeanor charge against him. And then the coup de grace....Authorities, however, have said there is no proof that the couple were targeted because of their race.

I hate this fuckin country!

Everything about this stinks, but there is one more issue - WNs should never have been demanding hate crimes charges be brought in the first place. They should have demanded that hate crime laws be struck down.

Apparently ilk isn't an insult.

A class that is defined by the common attribute or attributes possessed by all its members: breed, cast, description, feather, kind2, lot, manner, mold, nature, order, sort, species, stamp, stripe, type, variety. Informal persuasion. See group.

But Alex Linder opted not to make a return trip to Knoxville to admit his crime.

How misleading, as if he's afraid to go back to Knoxville. If that was the case, he wouldn't have shown up for the initial hearing. She knows this, but intentionally twisted the phrase to score points with her masters.

Or--there is always the possibility her editor tweaked it.

Either way, it's purposeful deception.

Why not opt for the trial???

As an activist, isnt that standard operating procedure?

Why not opt for the trial???

As an activist, isnt that standard operating procedure?

It would be expensive and he would lose. Besides, what is there to prove?

It would be expensive and he would lose. Besides, what is there to prove?


When you are a political prisoner your capital increases dramatically.

Then there is all the press you would get, and you could appeal it all the way up to the supreme court.

Not to mention you could write a book about the whole experience and make a million.

But again, that would take a ton of money. Who's going to defend him for no pay, the ACLU?

It would be expensive and he would lose. Besides, what is there to prove?

That he wasn't guilty of the charges?

I'm trying to understand why you pled guilty to resisting arrest?

Are/were you guilty?

Apparently ilk isn't an insult.

A class that is defined by the common attribute or attributes possessed by all its members: breed, cast, description, feather, kind2, lot, manner, mold, nature, order, sort, species, stamp, stripe, type, variety. Informal persuasion. See group.

The word probably is not meant to be a derogatory word but it sounds like that butch, dyke, c*nt-licking, whore, lesbian, spick-sucking reporter intended for it to be derogatory though.

A lot of people in Knoxville don't like the Knoxville News Sentinel newspaper. They have taken sides with unpopular and corrupt elected officials and politicians. The News Sentinel is a strong supporter of Knox County mayor Mike Ragsdale (who is now in hot water for mis-appropriating Knox County funds).

Some may remember that Ragsdale spoke out against or complained about the Knoxville rallies.

The University of Tennessee Vol football coaches won't even talk to the left-handed, queer faggott jerk-off News-Sentinel reporters.

I wouldn't worry about what that piece of garbage reporter says. Many people in the East Tennessee area, including myself, appreciate what Alex does.

In a very real way, the charge is the punishment, as you have to hire a lawyer and show up to court multiple times. The System can multiply paper endlessly, and force the accused to bear the costs.




Between court costs and attorney fees a simple, two hour jury trial generally costs in the range of $2,500-$5,000. If the trial takes more time you can figure on $400-$600 per hour for your attorney alone. You will pay this for an innocent verdict and then hope that the feds (or the "state" if it's the other way around) don't feel aggrieved enough to file their own charges which will effectively at least double your costs for another innocent verdict. If the prosecution really wants to be difficult, they will force a mistrial if things look like they might not go their way, thereby causing a repeat of the process and another doubling of the costs.

Appeals to the Supreme Court? I've no actual idea of what these things cost, but very likely several hundreds of thousands by the time all is said and done. Most cases the Supremes refuse to hear anyway: they couldn't care less about a "White supremacist" who got in a fracas with the cops.

Alex has done the right thing, and a "resisting arrest" misdemeanor (especially when there is NO charge representing the basis for the "arrest" in the first place), is pretty much a badge of honor - and no felony. $250 plus 6 months suspended (for only the duration of the six months;)) is a fig leaf for the cops and as close to a free pass as any local judge will ever go.

Way to go, Alex!:)

Yeah, the Satterfield article is the definition of hack job. There were four charges and three were dropped. I pled guilty to resisting arrest because I was guilty. It is also true that the arrest was illegal. However, it would take me about $5000 and several more trips to Knoxville to try to prove that at trial.

You'll notice that not one of the media reports mentioned that the main charge -- assaulting a cop -- was dropped. Not one of them reported that all four of these charges are for the same thing. The media are on the side of the cops and pols - together these form the System that oppresses us.

What was the point of this whole retarded exercise? And now the goal is to have more rallies? The WPL tabloid takes money away from VNNs operating costs ($1,000/month), but throwing courthouse bitch sessions all over the country, costing prospective participants hundreds in travel and related expenses, is supposed to somehow benefit VNN financially?

Alex says the government is corrupt and power comes from the barrel of a gun, but then intentionally confronts the robokwaps with no possible chance of overcoming them violently. Why? I fail to see where the actions meet the rhetoric. Then, as if to add insult to an already injured ideology, take a plea deal? wtf?

What was the point of this whole retarded exercise? And now the goal is to have more rallies? The WPL tabloid takes money away from VNNs operating costs ($1,000/month), but throwing courthouse bitch sessions all over the country, costing prospective participants hundreds in travel and related expenses, is supposed to somehow benefit VNN financially?

No. Are you retarded?


Alex says the government is corrupt and power comes from the barrel of a gun, but then intentionally confronts the robokwaps with no possible chance of overcoming them violently. Why? I fail to see where the actions meet the rhetoric. Then, as if to add insult to an already injured ideology, take a plea deal? wtf?

We put the murders on the map and brought national attention to nigger on white crime and media coverup.

Oh, and relax. We aren't going to print the paper.

All the credit goes to the prosecutor in this case. He achieved something never before seen - he got Alex Linder to admit he was wrong about something.

Gratuitous smilies: :rofl:D:krofl

All the credit goes to the prosecutor in this case. He achieved something never before seen - he got Alex Linder to admit he was wrong about something.

Gratuitous smilies: :rofl:D:krofl


Wrong again. I did resist arrest. I wasn't wrong to resist.

Letter to Satterfield:


You're a woman unworthy of respect, Jamie. You're a party-line hack and a coward to boot.

Alex Linder

Wrong again. I did resist arrest. I wasn't wrong to resist.Typical. I see you're right back to your old ways.

You can write lying cunt Satterfield here:

http://www.knoxnews.com/staff/jamie-satterfield/contact/

I'll be on air in an hour discussing this.

Can anyone dig up Satterfield's home address?

Alex,

With all due respect, what's with the home address stuff? Attack them in their professional capacity, attack their newspapers. I think we should leave their home addresses out of it. Just my opinion.

Kievsky

(Since Rmac posted I figure what the hell).

Arm-chair quarterbacking Linder is pointless; he's a man that bit the pavement on this deal. Stand with him.

Donations to:

A Linder
POB 101
Kirksville, MO. 63501

Alex,

With all due respect, what's with the home address stuff? Attack them in their professional capacity, attack their newspapers. I think we should leave their home addresses out of it. Just my opinion.

Kievsky

Wrong. Making it personal is the only way to go. These papers and writers care less about what they say about us, let's get back at them the only way we have.

Can anyone dig up Satterfield's home address?

I was unable to find phone or address in my limited time searching but I did find that her husband is Jerry Newman. They have two children Megan and Elijah. It should make finding phone/addy easier for someone. Started with the paper in Knoxville in 1984. She previously worked for The (Sevierville) Mountain Press.

Newman, Jeff & Jamie
909 Runnymede Cir
Maryville, TN 37804

865-981-4902

This could be it, but I can not be sure.

Only about 16 miles from knox news.

JAMIE SATTERFIELD NEWMAN and JERRY L NEWMAN (Age: 52)
SEVIERVILLE, TN

Probably one of these three:

J Newman
207 HENDERSON AVE
SEVIERVILLE, TN 37862
(865) 286-5600

J Newman
1826 NEWMAN TOWN RD
SEVIERVILLE, TN 37862
(865) 774-1418

Jamie Newman
217 ALLENSVILLE RD
SEVIERVILLE, TN 37876
(865) 429-5904

Guess an easy way of confirming would be to call with a simple script.

"This is Mike from the paper, is Jamie around?"

Or something like that.

Unless someone can narrow it down.

Wrong. Making it personal is the only way to go. These papers and writers care less about what they say about us, let's get back at them the only way we have.

That is right Alex.

These scumbags would not hesitate for one second too publish a White Nationalist address in their rags.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/aug/30/avowed-supremacist-accepts-deal/?printer=1/

Avowed supremacist accepts deal

Missouri man arrested during rally sparked by deaths of young couple

By Jamie Satterfield

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6114/jamiesatterfieldt100zf8.jpg

But Alex Linder opted not to make a return trip to Knoxville to admit his crime.

Linder, a Kirksville, Mo., resident, avowed white supremacist and operator of the Vanguard News Network, entered a guilty plea to a resisting arrest charge Wednesday in Knox County General Sessions Court via defense attorney Stephen Burroughs.

Linder was arrested at the start of a May rally he organized in downtown Knoxville in response to the slayings of a young white couple allegedly committed by four black suspects.

........... Hunnicutt noted the plea deal assures that Linder’s otherwise clean criminal record now will bear a conviction, which could boost any punishment he would face if he committed any other crimes.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22jamie+satterfield%22&btnG=Google+Search

Alex is an avowed white supremacist, but the 4 negroes are allegedly suspects? This writer is a filthy race traitor. This mark on a persons record should be a "white man's medal of honor" as far as I am concerned.....

I just tried to call Jamie Satterfield using the three numbers given in the thread below. The top number gets you an answer machine. The second number rings and finally just cuts off. And a female answered at the third number and said "you've got the wrong number".

The pigs and the county prosecutors' offices are all corrupt and their only goal is to cause as much trouble for white people as they can. The pigs don't give a hoot what they do to you. Remember, they are already on their job. What hassles you have to go through during their job time is irrelevant to them. This includes traffic problems where you may be sitting in a jam for hours that could have easily been solved to allow people to go on their way hours earlier. They don't care. The entire system is corrupt and it's all a crock of shit that anyone involved in law enforcement is concerned with the "truth" or "justice". Not where whites are concerned.

When I moved from one county--a black run and infested county--to another county--a white run although highly multiculti--I saw no difference in the behavior of the pigs.

I am ready to return to Knoxville to take up where we left off for Channon and Christopher. Are we not going to do something soon. I don't listen to the show so I don't know what was said. But I will be at any and all rallies in Knoxville for Channon especially. What they did to that poor girl makes me wanna scrream....

You can see from the photo that vile cunt Satterfield is a white-trash liberal.

Good effort, Sue. I want to encourage people to contact vile cunt Satterfield and let her know what you think about her smearing of Whites in order to defend nigger rapists and murderers.

Eye-ball-to-eye-ball contact (and the promise of it) with jewsmedia "press hounds" and other prominent ZOG'lings who attack us unfairly, is not only a super great tactic, it should have been done extensively by WNs, for the past 50 years, coast-to-coast.

Btw Alex, there is no excuse for you not also emailing a lengthy letter-to-editor, in response to that vile, defaming Knoxville newspaper article. So send one, and post it here. They are bound by common decency to print your LTE rebuttal.

Consider this:

Awhile back, Sarah Overstreet, a journalist with the Springfield News-Leader, interviewed me by phone several times, in preparation for an article she was instructed by her boss to do regarding my activisms here in S.W. Missouri.

Nice lady, who promised me she'd do a fair, unbiased article.

The article turned out to be a hatchet job filled with name-callings - racist, anti-semite, bigot, white supremacist, and all the rest.

So I phoned her. Her explanation was: "Glenn, the article I wrote, and the article that was published, are two different articles." And I believe she was telling me the truth. Therefore, I believe it's the GD newspaper editors who are mainly responsible for the wordings of newspaper articles that so biasly demonize us.

That paper did however, print my letter-to-editor rebuttal.

So what Rounder is saying is not only do we need to target the author of the hit peices, but also the editor, and publisher. Correct me if I am wrong Glen, but thats what I got out of your post

RE: Alex

Bravo for being able to see the quagmire!

Everything you've done thus far has been handled logically. Extricating yourself from ZOG's Tar Baby was a wise thing to do at this time. The mission accomplished!

Withdraw only to be able to plunge the sword in once again!

.

We've established that her name is Jamie Satterfield, she is married to Jerry Newman, and
she used to work in Sevierville, TN. Intelius.com shows a Jamie Satterfield Newman living
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Hmm, wonder of ol' nigger-loving Jamie has any secrets?

So what Rounder is saying is not only do we need to target the author of the hit peices, but also the editor, and publisher. Correct me if I am wrong Glen, but thats what I got out of your post

Yes T.C., that's my opinion based on my own experiences. The editors prior- edit everything that's published. Journalists draft articles and news reports, then the editors check the drafts and make corrections, changes, additions, and/or deletions, to insure political correctness of the final article/news report.

All journalists who want to keep their jobs though, go along with it, without complaint, therefore, make themselves willing accomplices.

Thus, the articles/news reports that appear in newspapers bear the name of the lowly journalists, but it's the editors who are mainly responsible for the contents.

The more experienced journalists know the game well and stick to kosher-political-correct writings, thus their writings need little or no editing at all.

BTW, there's already misinformation showing up out there.

I paid $250 for the "camera," "recording device" or "phone," depending which media report you want to believe. Personally I think thieving head-case Tom Walker wants a new camera, nothing more than that.

I also paid $385.10 in court costs, based on six subpoenas related to one of the charges. (Normal is 1 subpoena.)

Is that fair, given 3/4 charges were dropped?

Heck no!

You're better looking for virgins in a whorehouse than justice in an AmeriKwan court.

Hmm, wonder of ol' nigger-loving Jamie has any secrets?

You mean other than getting beat with an ugly stick?

Hmm, wonder of ol' nigger-loving Jamie has any secrets?

Hell, get her on the phone, Alex. And while you're having a polite chat with her, you'll be amazed by the insights she'll provide you by what she says.

Oh yeah - I also paid $200 for a chest xray, that luckily was negative.

I also paid $1500 to hire a lawyer through the general sessions court - would have been another 3500 minimum for him to represent me through full trial.

I also had to drive to Knoxville an extra time which cost another couple hundred.

Just to give you an idea of what a MISDEMEANOR charge can involve.

Oh yeah - I also paid $200 for a chest xray, that luckily was negative.

I also paid $1500 to hire a lawyer through the general sessions court - would have been another 3500 minimum for him to represent me through full trial.

I also had to drive to Knoxville an extra time which cost another couple hundred.

Just to give you an idea of what a MISDEMEANOR charge can involve.

Did the lawyer give you any idea of what a felony defence would cost?

No, but I'm sure it wouldn't be less. The 1500 for misdemeanor defense is based on 6 hours at 250. You can choose to pay per hour if you want, but the attorneys in Knoxville have a working understanding that you don't go below that. Either that or I purely at random found 4/6 charged 1500 and the others charged 2k!

I'm sure any kind of a semi-serious felony requiring a trial would run into the tens of thousands, easily.

Remember Bob Barr wanted 50k retainer, and he was defending Doles against some technical gun violation.

The System is designed to prosper lawyers, politicians, media, and cops - and fuck everyone else.

You can see from the photo that vile cunt Satterfield is a white-trash liberal.What is it with her ilk? It is as if doofy and daffy coalesced with hoity-toity to form their obstinate mold.

Wrong. Making it personal is the only way to go. These papers and writers care less about what they say about us, let's get back at them the only way we have.

But Alex, tell me that, if some goofy kid is inspired by the rhetoric here, then goes and fucks somebody up, that VNN, the organization, and you personally, wouldn't be ''held'' responsible. C'mon man, we've already been through this! Ask Tom Metzger. Ask Aryan Nations. If I'm way off track, kindly tell me why.

1) VNN isn't an organization. 2) I said contact these people, not physically attack them.

Are you illiterate, Webster, or trying to make trouble?

What is it with her ilk? It is as if doofy and daffy coalesced with hoity-toity to form their obstinate mold.

Looks to me she comes from a white-trash background, went to J-school, got indoctrinated. There's no liberal as fervent as an 'enlightened' redneck. These folks mistakenly believe they're rising in class when they turn on their own.

I was a bit curt above, let me explain.

We should use ALL the rights we have to the FULLEST extent and press for MORE.

We will not be scared off our turf, and our turf includes the right to list the addresses and phone numbers of those who persecute us. If we're going to run in fear of illegal things jews/zog might or could do, Webster, we might as well shut down our shop.

Every man acts on his own responsibility, we have stated that 1,000 times.

YOU and YOU ALONE are responsible for your actions. VNN takes no responsibility for what you do. Let that be clear.

HSN

I sent you this PM a couple of days ago.

Now after your Quip about Mel Gibson being a ju, you now want to take on A.Linder.


ESAGTH. YOU and schiller and all the rest of the NKVD trolls who are virulent anti Founders of this ex Nation.

Get back to your Temple.


AF

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PM sent to this disrespectul dolt, troll or no troll.
After the Gibson post through reading your posts
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Isn't it strange that we talk least about the things we think about most?

We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples
to lead our country to destruction.

-Charles A. Lindbergh

I'm glad that Alex doesn't have this trial hanging over him anymore. Clearly this whole ordeal was bs. It would serve Knoxville right if loyal VNNers held another rally or two. If Knoxville is too far to travel, consider having one in your area of Amerika. Rallies cost ZOG lots of police ot. Pick a city that you really hate, that shouldn't be too hard. If only show up with 10 or 15 people ZOG will put 50-100 cops on the street. Go on various boards and do a little pr with the local jewsmedia. We can do this people. Uniforms, costumes, suits and ties- just do it!

1) VNN isn't an organization. 2) I said contact these people, not physically attack them.

Are you illiterate, Webster, or trying to make trouble?

Absolutely not, my question to you was not insincere, nor did it bear you or VNN any ill will. I just do not put anything past the System, especially when it comes to a jury of our so-called "peers" interpreting the so-called "law."

I'll STFU now.

RE: Randy Webster

But Alex, tell me that, if some goofy kid is inspired by the rhetoric here, then goes and fucks somebody up, that VNN, the organization, and you personally, wouldn't be ''held'' responsible. C'mon man, we've already been through this! Ask Tom Metzger. Ask Aryan Nations. If I'm way off track, kindly tell me why.
Goofy kids are inspired to do a lot of things. Right now I see plenty of White girls pushing little niggers around in the shopping carts in the grocery stores. Did those girls wake up one day and decide that they needed to be pushing around little niggers in shopping carts, or did someone put it in their heads that that would be a desirable thing to do? The answer is obvious of course.

If people don't hear solutions to problems, they can't be expected to solve those problems. Some things are just too difficult to ferret-out the truth of the matter. People are too busy with getting on with their lives and up until recently they've been listening to the wrong solutions. Most of which have come from jews.

We give possible solutions. People must decide for themselves if they want to listen to the jews who own the media that tells their daughters to go out and fuck niggers, or to us who say that it's mortally dangerous for their daughters to fuck niggers.

If some people feel that they must buy a sniper rifle and knockoff those filthy jews who run the ad agencies that produce commercials specifically designed to disarm Whites against the dangers of niggers, that is their choice. We don't advocate that sort of thing, however, I'm sure that no one here would shed a tear upon reading about a bunch of Madison Ave kikes getting their heads ventilated.

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Alex Said:

There's no liberal as fervent as an 'enlightened' redneck. These folks mistakenly believe they're rising in class when they turn on their own.

Man don't I know it. These days white southerners are as bad as as the Yankees who come down here posturing and pontificating to us. Watching white liberals from the south and north argue over politics is like watching two holy rollers argue over which of them is "holier than thou."

-Brian

One of my highest hope in this world is that every white liberal on this planet only reproduces with non-whites THIS GENERATION, so we can ensure the speedy removal of the white liberal genetic disease and thus this genetic pollution from our gene pool forever. We might even take genetic samples of these white liberals, so if normal healthy white couples reproduce they can do genetic tests to determine whether or not to abort any whites that might be born with these liberal genetic diseases and gene patterns.

Thank GOD white people are recessive!

It makes cleaning our genepool out so easy of these mentally diseased white liberals.

now if only we could figure out how to convince white nationalists to have an extremely high birth rate, so we can amplify the white immune cells in this world.

White people embrace conscious evolution.

:razz

Alex...yr obviously 'the master of your own destiny', m8....but: just wondering if yr lawyer explained what 'suspended sentence' means?......if, @ any time during the next six months, the cops arrest you for any-thing @ all!.....u can be 'whisked' off to gaol for six months!......the 'way round it' is to keep a very low profile indeed until early next year when the six months will have expired!.....i wouldn't advise attending any more rallies just in case they try to 'set you up' again! :(

personally, i would'v hoped for 'a good behaviour bond'....dunno if they have them in the US :confused: .....it's similar to a suspended sentence but means that you can't be automatically 'freight-trained' off to prison!

AFA having 'a conviction' is concerned......wtf cares?

ALL ZOGs r illegitimate, immoral entities; as such: ZOG institutions like the cops, FBI, CIA, prisons & courts are ALSO 'illegitimate entitities'; as such: any 'conviction/sentence' handed down by them is basically meaningless & worthless......we're not in this struggle to play by their rules any-way; our aim is to over-throw and topple THE SYSTEM per se......and, that includes all its institutions/bureaucracies and those employed by them! :mad:

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If you want to take this further, the information is available. $7.95 will get you the address.

Sample report: https://find.intelius.com/search-detail-out.php?ER=1&ReportType=8

Sounds like a plan.

$25 would get you three addresses.

Journalists don't want to rock the boat. Any straying from the enshrined dogma could possibly get them fired, so they toe the party line. That's why every news story seem like it's from the same template.

i was a court the day of alex frist court date .the room was full with tv crews .all wateing and wanteing the inside scoope the news on tv and radio had vnn on the top news storys .he did great on the interviews,after football the trial will start,and when the public gets the news agine about the savage murders,thear will not be a nother cover up about this news story,they did try to keep it hush,hush.but vnn and others did a great thing by standeing up to the media to tell its readers ,the rest of the story.i know when you have something like this hanging on like a court dates it sucks bigg time its better to just give them your money and move on,because its really about the money .and not what you have done or so called done ,just pay the ticket,

Glad to hear these silly and baseless charges have been resolved, although I would have hoped for a better outcome.:( As someone else wrote, this country sucks!:eek::mad:

I am glad to see that you are pressing on, Alex!:)

Sieg Heil!!!;)

When you are a political prisoner your capital increases dramatically.


How's that working out for Matt Hale?

Between court costs and attorney fees a simple, two hour jury trial generally costs in the range of $2,500-$5,000. If the trial takes more time you can figure on $400-$600 per hour for your attorney alone. You will pay this for an innocent verdict and then hope that the feds (or the "state" if it's the other way around) don't feel aggrieved enough to file their own charges which will effectively at least double your costs for another innocent verdict. If the prosecution really wants to be difficult, they will force a mistrial if things look like they might not go their way, thereby causing a repeat of the process and another doubling of the costs.

Appeals to the Supreme Court? I've no actual idea of what these things cost, but very likely several hundreds of thousands by the time all is said and done. Most cases the Supremes refuse to hear anyway: they couldn't care less about a "White supremacist" who got in a fracas with the cops.

Alex has done the right thing, and a "resisting arrest" misdemeanor (especially when there is NO charge representing the basis for the "arrest" in the first place), is pretty much a badge of honor - and no felony. $250 plus 6 months suspended (for only the duration of the six months;)) is a fig leaf for the cops and as close to a free pass as any local judge will ever go.

Way to go, Alex!:)


This is the correct analysis. This was close to a win as Linder could have possibly hoped for.

All the credit goes to the prosecutor in this case. He achieved something never before seen - he got Alex Linder to admit he was wrong about something.

Gratuitous smilies: :rofl:D:krofl

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We've established that her name is Jamie Satterfield, she is married to Jerry Newman, and
she used to work in Sevierville, TN. Intelius.com shows a Jamie Satterfield Newman living
in Sevierville, TN. This has to be her.

If you want to take this further, the information is available. $7.95 will get you the address. $49.95 will get:

BACKGROUND REPORT INCLUDES (WHEN AVAILABLE):

STATEWIDE CRIMINAL CHECK
SEX OFFENDER CHECK
BANKRUPTCIES & LIENS
SMALL CLAIMS & JUDGMENTS
ADDRESS HISTORY
RELATIVES & ASSOCIATES
NEIGHBORS
HOME VALUE & DETAILS
NEIGHBORHOOD INFO
SATELLITE & MAP IMAGES
ALIAS NAMES
MUCH MORE...

Sample report: https://find.intelius.com/search-detail-out.php?ER=1&ReportType=8

She filed bankruptcy in 1991:

3:91-bk-32801 Jamie Satterfield Newman
Case type: bk Chapter: 7 Vol: v Judge: Richard Stair Jr.
Date filed: 05/29/1991 Date discharged: 09/10/1991
Date terminated: 10/03/1991


Parties



Ann Mostoller
SSNs: xxx-xx-8637
Added: 05/30/1991
(Trustee) Jamie Satterfield Newman
SSNs: xxx-xx-5299
Tax id: 299
Added: 05/30/1991
(Debtor) represented byL. Eugene Taylor
3844 Haven Hill Road
Louisville, TN 37777
(615) 984-7715
Assigned: 05/30/91
LEAD ATTORNEYUnited States Trustee
Added: 05/30/1991
(Interested Party)

[QUOTE=Kievsky;611268]Alex,

With all due respect, what's with the home address stuff? Attack them in their professional capacity, attack their newspapers. I think we should leave their home addresses out of it. Just my opinion.

Kievsky[/QUOTE

Been out of town for couple days... catching up on everything, Alex, congrats on your deal, not the BEST but, the most logical and inexpensive.

As for you Kievshy, what's with the home address stuff??? You have got to be kidding me! These reporters need to be exploited in whatever means we can achieve! They deserve NO PRIVACY REGARDING THEIR PRIVATE LIFE, THEY DESTROY WHOEVER THEY REPORT OPENLY IN THE PAPER ABOUT!
Do you think they care about being fair to ALEX? You are obviously in the wrong group of people here, perhaps you should check out the aclu, or naacp, or citizens against hate would be more up your alley. You are a disgrace to our race. What a stupid fucking comment to make. :mad:

[QUOTE=Kievsky;611268]Alex,

With all due respect, what's with the home address stuff? Attack them in their professional capacity, attack their newspapers. I think we should leave their home addresses out of it. Just my opinion.

Kievsky[/QUOTE

Been out of town for couple days... catching up on everything, Alex, congrats on your deal, not the BEST but, the most logical and inexpensive.

As for you Kievshy, what's with the home address stuff??? You have got to be kidding me! These reporters need to be exploited in whatever means we can achieve! They deserve NO PRIVACY REGARDING THEIR PRIVATE LIFE, THEY DESTROY WHOEVER THEY REPORT OPENLY IN THE PAPER ABOUT!
Do you think they care about being fair to ALEX? You are obviously in the wrong group of people here, perhaps you should check out the aclu, or naacp, or citizens against hate would be more up your alley. You are a disgrace to our race. What a stupid fucking comment to make. :mad:

LOL. Who is mgbrashear? Does anybody know him personally? Does he have a stake in White nationalism?

Look I wrote an e-mail to Alex, but I'll put it here. The ZOG criminal jewstice system wants to put us in prison forever or for a long time, and they've been taking us down one by one on charges that are largely inventions. All they need is the tiniest thread, and they spin that thread into a capital crime and federal case. Duh, don't you guys get it by now?

I believe in exercising our freedom, but I don't want to make it too easy for them to invent a charge. They always use the "violence" or "terrorism" or "ordering a hit." Don't you remember Benjamin Smith.

That's their one trick pony -- accusing us of being terrorists, ordering hits, etc. Notice they never get us on anything else. Why make it easy for them?

If WN are going to get busted, I'd rather see us get busted after laundering tens of millions of dollars and spreading it around the Movement, then paying for a great lawyer and getting a (relatively) light sentence.

THe actual benefit of scaring a woman reporter is nil -- zero. It's not even worth it even if you don't get in trouble for it. Good heavens, if you are going to risk legal trouble, then at least do something that's worth it.

[QUOTE=mgbrashear3@aol.com;612006]

LOL. Who is mgbrashear? Does anybody know him personally? Does he have a stake in White nationalism?

Look I wrote an e-mail to Alex, but I'll put it here. The ZOG criminal jewstice system wants to put us in prison forever or for a long time, and they've been taking us down one by one on charges that are largely inventions. All they need is the tiniest thread, and they spin that thread into a capital crime and federal case. Duh, don't you guys get it by now?

I believe in exercising our freedom, but I don't want to make it too easy for them to invent a charge. They always use the "violence" or "terrorism" or "ordering a hit." Don't you remember Benjamin Smith.

That's their one trick pony -- accusing us of being terrorists, ordering hits, etc. Notice they never get us on anything else. Why make it easy for them?

If WN are going to get busted, I'd rather see us get busted after laundering tens of millions of dollars and spreading it around the Movement, then paying for a great lawyer and getting a (relatively) light sentence.

THe actual benefit of scaring a woman reporter is nil -- zero. It's not even worth it even if you don't get in trouble for it. Good heavens, if you are going to risk legal trouble, then at least do something that's worth it.

Bill White put up the home address and phone number of nig Pitts, nothing happened to him. Hal Turner put up the home address's and phone numbers of the entire US senate, nothing happened to him.

So what if somebody on VNN puts up the home address and phone number of that ugly cunt, fuck her!

You are a disgrace to our race. What a stupid fucking comment to make.


That's quite an indictment.:rolleyes:

It seems most WNist spend lots of time overboard.

Addresses don't have to be posted on the web. They just need to be passed along to people who need to see them.

We've established that her name is Jamie Satterfield, she is married to Jerry Newman, and
she used to work in Sevierville, TN. Intelius.com shows a Jamie Satterfield Newman living
in Sevierville, TN. This has to be her.

If you want to take this further, the information is available. $7.95 will get you the address. $49.95 will get:

BACKGROUND REPORT INCLUDES (WHEN AVAILABLE):

STATEWIDE CRIMINAL CHECK
SEX OFFENDER CHECK
BANKRUPTCIES & LIENS
SMALL CLAIMS & JUDGMENTS
ADDRESS HISTORY
RELATIVES & ASSOCIATES
NEIGHBORS
HOME VALUE & DETAILS
NEIGHBORHOOD INFO
SATELLITE & MAP IMAGES
ALIAS NAMES
MUCH MORE...

Sample report: https://find.intelius.com/search-detail-out.php?ER=1&ReportType=8

The thing about Intelius.com and Peoplefinder.com (IMO they're the same company as they share the same building in CA. Check their addresses on the remove my information option.) is that they cull the information they use from public records.

Magazine subscriptions
Publisher's Clearing House (if you enter)
Phone books
court records
etc etc etc

I do not think that posting public information is a crime in anyway what so ever. It becomes a crime if you for example show up at her house.

Addresses don't have to be posted on the web. They just need to be passed along to people who need to see them.

For all you chicken shit, scared, paranoid peices of shit that dont have the balls to pick up a phone and VOICE YOUR OPINION REGARDING ANY SITUATION WHERE A WHITE PERSON HAS BEEN WRONGED need to go join the liberal jew infested sites where you can have pity and sympathy for the very ones that attack our race on a daily basis. If you are too scared to take a stand on the phone, what the hell would you do if it came down to physically defending your families and your rights as a white person? You wouldn't do jack shit! That is the difference between someone who REALLY STANDS FOR THE WHITE MOVEMENT and people like the very "few" that think a reporter's address and phone #'s being listed are wrong. If you disagree with the hard core devoted members calling and taking a stand for Alex, or any white person being unjustly biased by the media , then go someplace else where chicken shit cowardly white people converge. You would feel much more at home with your own type. ;)

You're not real swift at reading between the lines, are you sonny?

For all you chicken shit, scared, paranoid peices of shit that dont have the balls to pick up a phone and VOICE YOUR OPINION REGARDING ANY SITUATION WHERE A WHITE PERSON HAS BEEN WRONGED need to go join the liberal jew infested sites where you can have pity and sympathy for the very ones that attack our race on a daily basis. If you are too scared to take a stand on the phone, what the hell would you do if it came down to physically defending your families and your rights as a white person? You wouldn't do jack shit! That is the difference between someone who REALLY STANDS FOR THE WHITE MOVEMENT and people like the very "few" that think a reporter's address and phone #'s being listed are wrong. If you disagree with the hard core devoted members calling and taking a stand for Alex, or any white person being unjustly biased by the media , then go someplace else where chicken shit cowardly white people converge. You would feel much more at home with your own type. ;)

You're not real swift at reading between the lines, are you sonny?

The only lines I see on this thread are the panty lines running up your faggot ass, there chicken shit... grow some balls and get your priorities straight... either defend the white race as it shoud be or stay the little fag you are showing yourself to be. I have a feeling the panties are up the crack to stay.:krofl

The only lines I see on this thread are the panty lines running up your faggot ass, there chicken shit... grow some balls and get your priorities straight... either defend the white race as it shoud be or stay the little fag you are showing yourself to be. I have a feeling the panties are up the crack to stay.:krofl

What he said was this.

Addresses don't have to be posted on the web. They just need to be passed along to people who need to see them (Emphasis).

I'd say what he said was pretty obvious, and it had nothing to do with pussyfooting anything.

You're attacking him for no reason...as he wasn't suggesting passiveness at all.

[QUOTE=Karl Von Clausewitz!;612132]
What he said was this.

Addresses don't have to be posted on the web. They just need to be passed along to people who need to see them (Emphasis).

I'd say what he said was pretty obvious, and it had nothing to do with pussyfooting anything.

You're attacking him for no reason...as he wasn't suggesting passiveness at all.
[/QUOTE


"Pussyfooting & Passiveness"... I think these two words describe you, Kievsky, and Dangerman to a tee... what a lovely choice of words for you three! :krofl:krofl:krofl

You're not real swift at reading between the lines, are you sonny?

If you're going to hint at violence, either use your real name, or better yet, fuck off. You're banned.

This isn't a game, you assholes.

People's lives and money are on the line.

If you have a "violent" Internet name - you're a fag.

There. I've just revealed the secret of the Internet.

What the FUCK, dude?? I hope English is your second language or something, because your spelling and grammar are fucking embarrassing!!! If you are not a KIKE saboteur, then PM me and I'll send you a fucking dictionary. Jesus!!!

Quit being an asshole, Dave. Wwelvis is a good man.

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LOL all you want, guys, but I didn't admit to being wrong about anything. I agreed I was guilty of resisting arrest. I'm proud of that. I want that conviction on my record. Because all it means in the long run is that when somebody looks back they see that somebody cared enough about the First Amendment to exercise the damn thing. Somebody cared enough to recognize that the cops have gone OVER THE LINE and do what he could to push them back. I don't give a flying fuck if nobody else agrees or sees it my way, I'm right. The cops have no right other than raw power to prevent a man from going into a public space and speaking freely.

LOL all you want, guys, but I didn't admit to being wrong about anything. I agreed I was guilty of resisting arrest. I'm proud of that. I want that conviction on my record. Because all it means in the long run is that when somebody looks back they see that somebody cared enough about the First Amendment to exercise the damn thing. Somebody cared enough to recognize that the cops have gone OVER THE LINE and do what he could to push them back. I don't give a flying fuck if nobody else agrees or sees it my way, I'm right. The cops have no right other than raw power to prevent a man from going into a public space and speaking freely.

Of course you're right, Alex. And the majority agree with you. How could they not? A guy exercising his First Amendment rights slammed by the cops. It doesn't get any more real than that. You're a twenty first century patriot and I for one thought you did a damn fine job in Knoxville.

On a side note, since the bogus charges against you have been resolved will the vid of your arrest be posted? Not sure where I read that it was videotaped, OTPTT maybe, but unless there is no more litigation by the kwaps or yourself I'm sure the Volks would like to see it. The raw power of the cops preventing a man from speaking freely as you said. A guy carrying a freakin sign beat down by zog mercs is sure to arouse emotions.

RE: Kievsky

THe actual benefit of scaring a woman reporter is nil -- zero. It's not even worth it even if you don't get in trouble for it.
I don't know about that. I kind of like the idea of sending a message to the other hack reporters.

I don't know about you, but if I were a MSM reporter and I knew that pro-White groups were publishing my personal info, I might be inclined to think very carefully about what I wrote about them. After all, if I were a MSM reporter, I wouldn't want those out-of-control, blood-thirsty, neo-Nazi, supremacist, skinheaded haters coming to my home. They might hurt me.

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Attorneys and restraining orders. A temporary restraining order is almost always issued and then YOU must show cause why it should not be made permanent. Than can be expensive if the opposition is determined, are liars, etc. And winning is not as easy as being innocent of wrongdoing. And the court orders that you may not own firearms making it a REAL problem if you DO get caught with any.

How things have changed: I assume that it was the chubby little dwarf in the picture with Alex who had a personal cell phone that he wanted replaced. In times past, if some ambulance-driving nerd had his CB walkie-talkie with him at work and it got broken, it was too bad because it was his personal property and not necessary for him to do his job. If the public is paying this little prick to do a job, it seems to me like he should leave his home phone in his lunch box or somewhere rather than being available for personal calls on duty. Then perhaps this is just another excuse to hurt Mr. Linder but I would have thought the allegedly broken phone a separate civil matter.

As for the plea bargain, discretion remains the better part of valor.

I don't care. Red neck and white trash ARE jew media kosher insults. Don't use them!

I think Mel Gibson is partial jew, and now he is getting old he doesn't look that different than Tony Randall! This is racial evidence. Race is real.

MORE! I went to see Paul Fromm speak, in person I could see his eyes and what a surprise, his head is round and pink and he almost passed the test but I rate him partial Jew. His eyes and nose have a plain old jew look from straight on and, he sounds like a jew when he gets going talking and of course he has a jewy name and a jewy job. I think those corny clothes he wears are to distract people.

Go ahead, kill the messenger.

Care to offer any serious evidence?:eek::confused: I think you are way, way, way off on these baseless assumptions and farcical accusations.:D;)

They should have demanded that hate crime laws be struck down.

Now that is something that whites could benefit greatly from by pooling money to pay for legal fees. Take that shit to the Supreme Court and knock down every Kike-written law on the books.

To Alex: It's taken me a day or more to get back on this thread and I read everything that has been said. I appreciate your thanks, Alex. I try to do everything in my small amount of power to help your, and my, cause. Even if some don't think I am sincere.

If someone can establish a phone number for Jamie Satterfield, I will call the girl and give her an earful. If she will meet with me, I will drive to Knoxville and sit and talk to the girl for as long as she will talk to me. Might not do a damn bit of good, probably won't. But it sure wouldn't hurt for her to hear something from a white woman for a change. And one that she might consider on her "level".

If anybody gets a personal number for Jamie, pm me please.

Now that is something that whites could benefit greatly from by pooling money to pay for legal fees. Take that shit to the Supreme Court and knock down every Kike-written law on the books.

Good idea Lagergeld, something like PRAAG would be beneficial to racialists in the USA. PRAAG (Pro Afrikaans Action Group), is a group dedicated to fighting discrimination against Afrikaners.

PRAAG (the Pro-Afrikaans Action Group) disseminates information, news and opinion and campaigns for the rights of Afrikaners in Southern Africa who are being oppressed by the governments of South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia. Not only are we subjected to systemic racial and linguistic discrimination by the likes of Mugabe and Mbeki, but we are constantly attacked, tortured, raped and murdered by death squads tolerated and secretly encouraged by these governments.




We are supported in our struggle by people all over the world, in the U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, Flanders (Belgium), the Netherlands, France, Italy, Germany, Austria and other countries.


http://www.praag.org/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=382&Itemid=107

It's not a bad idea folks and it can be done, people just need to start focusing on different aspects, it's fine to have cells of movements, or marches against specific topics, but some structure needs to be put in place. And it can be done.

Linder and his ilk have insisted that the slayings should be classified as hate crimes. Authorities, however, have said there is no proof that the couple were targeted because of their race.
Every time niggers rape, rob or murder Whites they say the same thing.
There is no evidence that it was racially motivated.
Even in cases where the nigger has admitted that he killed a White person because he hates Whites, they still deny that the crime was racially motivated.
God damned jews and their biased hate crimes laws.
How can any one with an once of common sense not see what is going on?

Attorneys and restraining orders. A temporary restraining order is almost always issued and then YOU must show cause why it should not be made permanent. Than can be expensive if the opposition is determined, are liars, etc. And winning is not as easy as being innocent of wrongdoing. And the court orders that you may not own firearms making it a REAL problem if you DO get caught with any.

How things have changed: I assume that it was the chubby little dwarf in the picture with Alex who had a personal cell phone that he wanted replaced. In times past, if some ambulance-driving nerd had his CB walkie-talkie with him at work and it got broken, it was too bad because it was his personal property and not necessary for him to do his job. If the public is paying this little prick to do a job, it seems to me like he should leave his home phone in his lunch box or somewhere rather than being available for personal calls on duty. Then perhaps this is just another excuse to hurt Mr. Linder but I would have thought the allegedly broken phone a separate civil matter.

As for the plea bargain, discretion remains the better part of valor.

It's not at all uncommon in cases like this, especially where the prosecution is essentially "giving up", to try and resolve a civil matter related to the charge if the amount in question is relatively small. Judges have the discretion to impose such restitution. In one court in a small town nearby, the Judge will ask, at the conclusion of a plea deal, "has Rule 1 been complied with?" What the Judge is asking there, is, have you, the attorney, been paid by your defendant-client. If the client has paid you in full, you respond "yes." If he still owes you money, you respond "no", and the judge will add, as part of his sentencing order, that the client pay you the remainder of the fees owed within a certain period of time. Now that is nice! Many clients cannot pay the full amount owed prior to going to court on such things, and this adds some security to making payment arrangements if the case is in that court.

It's not at all uncommon in cases like this, especially where the prosecution is essentially "giving up", to try and resolve a civil matter related to the charge if the amount in question is relatively small. Judges have the discretion to impose such restitution. In one court in a small town nearby, the Judge will ask, at the conclusion of a plea deal, "has Rule 1 been complied with?" What the Judge is asking there, is, have you, the attorney, been paid by your defendant-client. If the client has paid you in full, you respond "yes." If he still owes you money, you respond "no", and the judge will add, as part of his sentencing order, that the client pay you the remainder of the fees owed within a certain period of time. Now that is nice! Many clients cannot pay the full amount owed prior to going to court on such things, and this adds some security to making payment arrangements if the case is in that court.

Hey John, what are some of the other secret code-worded communications that occur between judges and lawyers during trials ?? Or are they Freemason secrets ??

It's not at all uncommon in cases like this, especially where the prosecution is essentially "giving up", to try and resolve a civil matter related to the charge if the amount in question is relatively small. Judges have the discretion to impose such restitution. In one court in a small town nearby, the Judge will ask, at the conclusion of a plea deal, "has Rule 1 been complied with?" What the Judge is asking there, is, have you, the attorney, been paid by your defendant-client. If the client has paid you in full, you respond "yes." If he still owes you money, you respond "no", and the judge will add, as part of his sentencing order, that the client pay you the remainder of the fees owed within a certain period of time. Now that is nice! Many clients cannot pay the full amount owed prior to going to court on such things, and this adds some security to making payment arrangements if the case is in that court.So, Rule #1 is: The lawyer gets his money.

So, Rule #1 is: The lawyer gets his money.


Ideally.
;)

It probably doesn't happen anymore but in times past, if a lawyer had not been paid satisfactorily when the court date arrived, the lawyer would ask the judge for a continuance.

Judge: "Why are you asking for a continuance, Mr. Lawyer?"

Lawyer: "One of my witnesses is not here today, Your Honor."

Judge: "Oh? And who is the missing witness, Mr. Lawyer?"

Lawyer: "That would be Mr. Green, Your Honor."

Judge: "Very well. This case will be continued until next month...":D

It probably doesn't happen anymore but in times past, if a lawyer had not been paid satisfactorily when the court date arrived, the lawyer would ask the judge for a continuance.

Judge: "Why are you asking for a continuance, Mr. Lawyer?"

Lawyer: "One of my witnesses is not here today, Your Honor."

Judge: "Oh? And who is the missing witness, Mr. Lawyer?"

Lawyer: "That would be Mr. Green, Your Honor."

Judge: "Very well. This case will be continued until next month...":D

In most cases you can pretty much get a continuance for a first time without any reason at all. I've never gotten a continuance because of lack of payment, though I have filed a Motion to Withdraw because of payment problems. Generally if you have a client who's not paying, a continuance won't change things. I think there was a scene like the one you quote above, in a book called The Lincoln Lawyer, which was pretty good.

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Hey John, what are some of the other secret code-worded communications that occur between judges and lawyers during trials ?? Or are they Freemason secrets ??

Well Glenn, you'd have to be able to give me the super-secret-special-handshake before I could tell you, but even then it would be in writing in a special coded platen which would require a Little Orphan Annie Ovaltine Decoder Ring to decipher.

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Well Glenn, you'd have to be able to give me the super-secret-special-handshake before I could tell you, but even then it would be in writing in a special coded platen which would require a Little Orphan Annie Ovaltine Decoder Ring to decipher.

:rofl

I didn't mean to put you on the spot, John. Just curious. You're a Mason, huh ?? I mean, aside from your gesting above.

As for the Klan handshake, it's the regular, formal, right-hand, handshake, but with the twisting of the hand, left and right, pendulum-like.

I didn't mean to put you on the spot, John. Just curious. You're a Mason, huh ?? I mean, aside from your gesting above.

As for the Klan handshake, it's the regular, formal, right-hand, handshake, but with the twisting of the hand, left and right, pendulum-like.

I'm not a mason, Glenn. Though I have been known to have a sense of humor from time to time.

I'm not a mason, Glenn. Though I have been known to have a sense of humor from time to time.

Roger. You've also got lots of common sense, John. Which is a bit lacking nowadays on here. Good to see you posting, again.

(For what it's worth to other VNN'ers, John Flynn, in my opinion, is a genuine WN and an honest one. And as a practicing attorney, he ain't no dummy, either. A valuable asset to VNN, therefore)

Okay, so now that Alex's legal problems have been resolved, when are we getting back to Knoxville for Channon and Christopher. Did the police ever release the autopsy report on Channon. I haven't heard they did unless I just didn't hear. Is that usual or unusual in a case like this for them NOT to release it prior to trial. Maybe John Flynn could comment on this.

We've got the other rape that took place right around the time of the ChannonChristopher murders that the police clearly covered up.

There's the issue of the media coverage by Jamie Satterfield as well as her coverage of Alex's charges, etc.

There's just dieversity in general. Why can't we do a march or a moving demonstration somewhere and have Alex speak. He is the best speaker our side has, bar none. He alone could speak for hours and hold everyone's attention. We don't even need another speaker if Alex is okay with that.

As long as we keep moving with our signs, the police can't make us move unless something goes wrong. I mean they can always ask us to move for whatever reason, but my bet is they would have to have a pretty good reason to break up our demo.

If we can all contribute to Alex's expenses to come to one of these, maybe he would agree to do it. Even if we all just gave ten dollars and then see what he has. My expenses to get there would be minimal, especially if someone else rode with me from the Atlanta area. I have a small economical car that gets good mileage.

Anyway, I am ready to take up where we left off. This time we don't go downtown on a Saturday. We go out where the white people are. Forget the media, we make our own news and let the public interpret it on their own hearing from us.

Just some random thoughts here. Fall is coming and cool weather will be here soon. It will be much more comfortable to be outside from now on.

Well, I guess nothing is going to happen in Knoxville again until next Spring when the trial happens. At least that's the word I got today.

Okay, so now that Alex's legal problems have been resolved, when are we getting back to Knoxville for Channon and Christopher. Did the police ever release the autopsy report on Channon. I haven't heard they did unless I just didn't hear. Is that usual or unusual in a case like this for them NOT to release it prior to trial. Maybe John Flynn could comment on this.

We've got the other rape that took place right around the time of the ChannonChristopher murders that the police clearly covered up.

There's the issue of the media coverage by Jamie Satterfield as well as her coverage of Alex's charges, etc.

There's just dieversity in general. Why can't we do a march or a moving demonstration somewhere and have Alex speak. He is the best speaker our side has, bar none. He alone could speak for hours and hold everyone's attention. We don't even need another speaker if Alex is okay with that.

As long as we keep moving with our signs, the police can't make us move unless something goes wrong. I mean they can always ask us to move for whatever reason, but my bet is they would have to have a pretty good reason to break up our demo.

If we can all contribute to Alex's expenses to come to one of these, maybe he would agree to do it. Even if we all just gave ten dollars and then see what he has. My expenses to get there would be minimal, especially if someone else rode with me from the Atlanta area. I have a small economical car that gets good mileage.

Anyway, I am ready to take up where we left off. This time we don't go downtown on a Saturday. We go out where the white people are. Forget the media, we make our own news and let the public interpret it on their own hearing from us.

Just some random thoughts here. Fall is coming and cool weather will be here soon. It will be much more comfortable to be outside from now on.

I am for all of the above thoughts... let's do something... to do nothing is just plain wrong. :(

Well, I guess nothing is going to happen in Knoxville again until next Spring when the trial happens. At least that's the word I got today.

Alex asked coupla times for somebody to step forward and volunteer to be "point man" for another Knoxville rally, Sue. But as yet, nobody has. Pathetic, ain't it ??

Oh, I'm not blaming Alex. Goodness knows, he has his plate full right now with all he's doing plus trying to lay low until the probationary period is up. I don't blame him--who wants to risk further problems.

What can I say--it's disappointing. But I know it's intimidating thinking you are the person responsible for everything.

I wonder what the laws in Knoxville are concerning just standing on a street corner holding a sign and handing out fliers. If anybody can find out, let me know.

If twenty to fifty people wanted to do that one Saturday, maybe we could go one Saturday and break up into little groups and each take a corner and leaflet to passersby.

It would all depend upon what the laws in Knoxville are concerning this. Maybe I'll call the Knoxville Police Department and ask.

I would think for it to be really effective, we'd need about fifty people committed to do it. We could organize a few spokespersons to talk to any
media that bothered to come by. Fat chance of that, though.

I didn't mean to put you on the spot, John. Just curious. You're a Mason, huh ?? I mean, aside from your gesting above.

As for the Klan handshake, it's the regular, formal, right-hand, handshake, but with the twisting of the hand, left and right, pendulum-like.

I worked for a season with a guy who enjoyed putting on the local masonry. He showed me two handshakes, variations of the same theme of lifting Hiram Abiff up from the grave. Have someone show them to you and experiment. He liked to add that he was glad to see that a brother had his tools with him, when he saw a Judeo-freemason lapel pin. That's right: Judeo-freemasonry and they had their own translation of the bible prior to adopting the King James and it had a fascinating forward by rabbis-- stating they didn't trust anyone but rabbis to translate it; look around and you'll find one. J.T. Hales in Smithville, Oklahoma has one.

The guy was a hoot, a fount of trivia, and enjoyed dancing on the edge which added spice to our time together.

This pops up on Google http://freemasonrywatch.org/secrets.html

I worked for a season with a guy who enjoyed putting on the local masonry. He showed me two handshakes, variations of the same theme of lifting Hiram Abiff up from the grave. Have someone show them to you and experiment. He liked to add that he was glad to see that a brother had his tools with him, when he saw a Judeo-freemason lapel pin. That's right: Judeo-freemasonry and they had their own translation of the bible prior to adopting the King James and it had a fascinating forward by rabbis-- stating they didn't trust anyone but rabbis to translate it; look around and you'll find one. J.T. Hales in Smithville, Oklahoma has one.

The guy was a hoot, a fount of trivia, and enjoyed dancing on the edge which added spice to our time together.

This pops up on Google http://freemasonrywatch.org/secrets.html

Hitler dispised Freemasons. Therefore, so do I. And we don't need to engage in back-and-forth jibberishes with "valuable intellectual properties" who question our reasons, in order to dispise and persecute the treasonous, secretive, don't-name-the-jew, freemason bastards. Eh ??

I agree with Rounder. Hitler despised Freemasons and Mussolini despised them too. What has Freemasonry ever done for the White man? I'll become a Freemason when I see the Shriners wearing Swastika armbands when they ride around in those little cars.

Most US politicians are Freemasons. Bill Clinton was heavily into Freemasonry even as a teenager (deMolay). That's enough reason to despise them.

And what's "free" about it?

Nice picture of the Russian royal family, JimInCo. With modern genetic testing, they could have got rid of the hemophilia gene (the girls with the gene could become aunts instead of mothers, and let the others without the gene & with great Aryan bods, have twice as many kids to compensate). The Russian royal family were beautiful people.

Alex, did you ask the attorney who represented you about expunging your conviction once your probationary/sentence has expired? Most counties allow this for misdemeanors and it's a pretty simple procedure. You file a petition with the court, appear and tell the judge you want the conviction expunged and they expunge it. No more misdemeanor conviction. That should piss off the bitch writer by getting a spotless record again. Cate