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John Wolf
July 22nd, 2007, 05:30 PM
Alex how does left wing nationalism work, could you educate me on the difference from right wing nationalism. ?

1st Edu
July 22nd, 2007, 06:46 PM
I wolf a jew or none jew last name?

alex
July 23rd, 2007, 05:49 AM
The main difference in result would be that the right wing nationalist is only interested in replacing one elite with another while keeping society and how it
works without changing it.

The left-wing nationalist in not interested in just changing elites but wants to change the system itself.

The right wing nationalist often will proclaim that all problems we are facing are because of the jews, illumnati, liberals or other groups and that by replacing them with people of their own trust in power and media positions every problem will miraculously solve out itself.

The left-wing nationalist proclaims that many of our problems are self-made. They are the result of the white mans greed. The system that nurtures and shelters this greed is capitalism. Thats why simply replacing elites will do nothing, but the system itself has to be changed.

For example he aknowledges the etnicity of the slave-traders but blames the greedy southern capitalist who wanted cheap labor for the first multicultural wave into the US. He understands perfectly that there are individuals of questionable heritage in positions of power that advocate open borders, but the left-wing nationalist blames the capitalists, small as well as big, their lust for cheap labor and greed for the illegal immigration that swamps over the US.
Same thing with globalisation and outsourcing as well as a number of other problems like healthcare, energy supply, education and so on.

He does that because he understands the very essence which determines wages in a capitalist system. What will determine the wages and thereby the profit are the simple laws of demand and supply. I'm oversimplyfying here of course and have left out the important role of productivity for the sake of the argument.

The more employees an employer can choose from for the work he has to offer, the lower the wage is going to be, the lower the production costs are going to be and finally the bigger his profit is going to be.

The fewer employees an employer can choose from for the work he has to offer, the higher the wage is going to be, the higher the production costs are going to be and finally the lower his profit is going to be.

Thats the reason for example why skilled workers (engineers, doctors etc) earn considerably more than unskilled workers ( cleaners, cashiers etc). Its purely a matter of quantity.

Its the same thing which determines the price of a property a capitalist wants to sell or rent. The more people are interested in it the higher the price is going to be a capitalist can demand. The fewer people are interested the lower the price is eventually going to be.

Eventually the best interest of the employer is going to be to have as many workers around for the work he has to offer. His interests are opposite to the interests of the employees.

So you see, simply replacing elites will not solve the problem of the underlying opposite interests in society.

The left-wing nationalist thereby aknoweledges that in all issues big as well as small there is not only the underlying problem of an ethnicity versus its host nation but also the underlying problem of the employer vs employee.

While the employee has the voting power, simply because he will always be the vast majority of the nation, the employer has the lobbying power. His vast wealth enables him to buy out politicians and media who will in turn push for his interests.

So eventually you have the conflict of the employee's voting power pushing for their interests and the opposite interests the politicians and media will push in accordance to their financial supporters.




The second motivation for the left-wing nationalist is his diametrically different worldview from that of the right-wing nationalist. He favours the collective over the individual.

His reasoning is that the biggest of all geniouses will never be able to grow in a backward enviroment as he will in a progressive and wealthy one. Thereby essential for the flourishing of the individual is the prosperity of the enviroment he lives in. But the advancement of the enviroment is not the product of individuals but that of the collective.

A left-wing nationalist therefore wants to advance and help the collective to prosper. He will therefore always try (even if he does not succeed in the end) to build a system which puts the question "whats good for working people" instead of "whats good for businness" in the forefront.

John Wolf
July 23rd, 2007, 07:50 AM
I wolf a jew or none jew last name?


huh, what are you on about. :confused:

albion
July 23rd, 2007, 08:50 AM
The left-wing nationalist in not interested in just changing elites but wants to change the system itself...
So Alex, why not just call yourself a Socialist, instead of a left-wing nationalist?

alex
July 24th, 2007, 04:26 AM
So Alex, why not just call yourself a Socialist, instead of a left-wing nationalist?

Or make it even easier and call myself what i am, namely a left-wing National Socialist.