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Uncle John
August 6th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Whatever you may think of Harold Covington, I think he makes a very good argument for the Northwest Migration in this essay.


REFUTING THE NAY-SAYERS
by Harold A. Covington

Every new idea has its nay-sayers. Northwest Migration will prove to be no different.

The ancient Egyptians believed that the brain existed merely to cool the blood, and that a giant pig ate the moon every month. Renaissance doctors treated gunshot wounds by giving the victim blue pills. I need not remind my readers that there was a time when the overwhelming majority of the human race believed that the earth is flat. In the 1820s, there were scientists who proved with abstruse mathematical calculations that it is absolutely impossible for human beings to travel faster than 35 miles an hour without being crushed into jelly by the centrifugal force, and that therefore railroads would never be practical. In the 1890s the descendants of those same scientists proved again, with equally brilliant mathematical and physical calculations, that heavier than air flight was an absolute impossibility and beyond the capacity of man ever to achieve. There are still people today who believe that the moon landing was a hoax, and there are those who tell me that it is mathematically impossible for the bumble bee to fly at all. Unfortunately, someone forgot to tell the bumble bee, so he flies anyway.

The Northwest Migration falls into this category. Historically, we are a Movement of nay-sayers. If Jesus Christ himself were to descend from the skies and offer us a plan which would ensure us permanent survival and control of the earth, there would be those among us who whined and caviled and criticized. From now on, right up until the moment we achieve independence and our new flag goes up over Coeur d’Alene and Seattle, there will be people, supposedly “our” people, who will explain to us in great and plethoric detail why the Northwest is a terrible idea, why it will never ever work, and why we must not do it. From this point onward, in everything we do, we will have a chorus of nay-sayers in the background as a kind of leitmotif. We need to understand this and accept it as just one more thing we will have to work around.

Some of this opposition will be genuine and principled. Let me make it clear that I do not claim that anyone at all who opposes the Northwest Imperative is either an idiot or some kind of enemy agent. Just most of them. This being the Movement, and political thought and principle being largely alien to our entire experience, surprisingly little of the opposition to this idea will fall into the category of serious, thoughtful yet constructive disagreement. We just don’t do things that way. Everything is personal.

This being the Movement, the overwhelming majority of the opposition to the Northwest will prove in the long run to be self-interested and motivated by petty jealousy at best, and orchestrated by the enemy at worst.

This is simply the way we are, the way we have been ever since 1945. Any time someone comes up with a good idea the rest of the Movement hurl themselves on him like a pack of junkyard dogs in an attempt to drag him back down into the mud with the rest of the losers and the mailers of news clippings.

The late Robert Miles once pointed out that the one thing we Movement dudes hate more than anything else, the one thing we cannot abide, is success of any kind on the part of one of our number. There are no doubt deep psychological reasons for this; we have become so used to mediocrity that on the rare occasions when we display anything else, the guilty party is accused of being a Jew or a government agent. We simply cannot bring ourselves to believe that anyone with talent, ability, intelligence, or dedication would actually waste his time messing around with us. There has to be something wrong with such a person, right? Who does he think he is, showing the rest of us up for the pathetic losers and dysfunctionals we are? Get him!

As yet the nay-sayers haven’t really gotten their act together. Their attacks on the Northwest consist mostly of ad hominem vilification of myself, again not an unexpected development in view of who we’re dealing with. In the long run they will get nit-picky and start nay-saying specific acts and policies of the Northwest tendency, but right now their nay-says fall into a few simple categories which are very easily refuted on both the emotional and the logical level. We need to be aware of these simple nay-says and learn the counters off by heart. We will be meeting them time and again from now on.

What the defenders of the Movement status quo (i.e. doing nothing) have been able to come up with thus far is as follows:

NAY-SAY #1: "The Northwest Migration is too much work. It is inconvenient. It is costly. It means us, as individuals, taking money out of our own pockets for a racial purpose, and we all know we can't have that, can we?"

Short Answer: Yes, we know. The fact that it’s inconvenient and costly is the idea’s biggest advantage, because we want the people who are willing to undergo that inconvenience and expense for their race and civilization. The rest of you lazy bums can stay at home and tap on your keyboards. You’re useless.

Comprehensive Answer: Where, where, oh where in the name of God did we get this idea that an all-encompassing revolution of state and society of the kind which is our only hope of racial survival would be in any way, shape, or form easy or without risk and difficulty?

Where? How? How could we possibly come up with such an absurd notion? No other revolutionary movement in the history of the world, from the I.R.A. to the Bungi-Bungi Liberation Front, has ever started from the premise that they would win their cause without death and prison and long years of agonizing suffering as power is wrenched form one set of hands into another. What has made us such idiots? What has given us this idea that some weird deus ex machina is going to save us without our undergoing any risk or inconvenience at all? Where, exactly, is this mysterious effortless racial salvation going to come from? ETs in flying saucers who will come down from the stars and take us all away to Neptune? No offense to Christian readers, but surely even none of you are really so dumb as to buy into all this Rapture and Left Behind baloney? (That’s not Christianity, by the way, that’s from about 1970, a book by a man named Hal Lindsey called The Late, Great Planet Earth. There’s nothing at all in the Bible about a so-called “Rapture”. I know because my first wife got into all that rubbish. She grew out of it and most others will, too.)

We either choose to fight and die on our feet beneath the blue skies of the Northwest, like men, or we crawl and die in our own excrement-filled diapers in a nursing home being “cared for” by Nigerians and Filipinos. That’s our choice, people. Nothing else on the menu. Take your pick.

NAY-SAY #2: "The Northwest is not perfect! We can only migrate to someplace that is absolutely perfect, an all-White land of milk and honey where we won’t have to work or fight!"

Short Answer: Yep, looks like we’ve got our work cut out for us all right. It’s going to be a real challenge, waking up and motivating that geographically and demographically manageable number of about eight million White people, creating a whole new national consciousness where before there was only ignorance and liberalism. We’re looking forward to it!

Comprehensive Answer: Neither I nor anyone else claims that the Northwest is some kind of Aryan paradise. It is not. It is one of the last remaining places on earth where we have a CHANCE of creating a viable, sovereign Aryan nation, and since our racial survival is non-negotiable and failure is not an option here, then it’s not as if we have any choice in the matter. We must play the cards that we are dealt.

Fifty years ago we were dealt a lot better hands, to be sure, but we have elected to waste that time on the Billy James Hargises, the Carl McIntires, the Pierces, the Metzgers, and all the other frauds and con men and dysfunctionals. We have consistently, almost hysterically refused to address issues of strategy or character or simple reality, and so now this is where we are. We’ve got about twenty more years before the biological clock runs out and if we’re not gathering our people into a Homeland by then, it’s over. It’s time for the keyboard-tapping to stop and time for us to get on with it.

No, it's not perfect. The Northwest is to a large degree full of dumb White people of a very Jukish and Kallikakish nature, who have been brainwashed into liberalism and who will probably call us names and be mean to us if we go there. We will not be welcomed with open arms. Flowers will not be strewn beneath our feet as we arrive. According to the nay-sayers, we must find someplace to go where every last living soul is White and racially aware and where flowers will be strewn beneath our feet as we ride into town, and where we need do no work or fighting at all. Until then we must not even think of migrating anywhere; we must stay at home and e-mail each other news articles telling each other how bad things are getting.

We are not going to the Northwest to make a paradise. We are going to make a home where enough of our people may physically survive so that someday when the world of diversity and multiculturalism and perversion outside our borders collapses, we can take back everything that is rightfully ours. But that’s in the future. Our immediate goal is to reach January 1st, 2100 with some White people still on the face of the earth.

NAY-SAY #3: "If we attempt this, we might get the government really pissed off at us and they might hurt us. We must never, ever do anything that might get the government really pissed off at us, since as everyone knows, we don't really mean all this racial stuff we talk. You must not listen to Harold! Fun’s fun, guys, but that crazy Harold really means it and he’s going too far! If you listen to Harold you’ll get in big trouble!"

Short Answer: If we have genuinely become that weak, cowardly, and chickenshit, then we don’t deserve to survive.

Comprehensive Answer: Pretty much the same as the short answer, except to add that we at least owe it to our mighty heritage and to the ten thousand generations of men and women who lived and died before us, who made and gave us this world we have so spinelessly thrown away—we owe it to them to die as brave and decent a racial death as we can muster in our present tormented and deeply diseased state. If we must be buried, let us be buried with some last few shreds of honor and dignity in the last land on earth to become defiled by the evil which overwhelms us. Let history record that at the last moment, at least a few of us tried.

And by the by, it really isn’t all that hopeless, you know. Rats may leave a sinking ship, true—but rats survive.

NAY-SAY #4: "We must stand and fight!"...whatever the hell that means.

Short Answer: Okay, loudmouth. Let’s see you stand and fight. Next time I turn on the TV I expect to see you on the front page out there in New Joisey or Florida or Atlanta, and I expect to see those guns you hide in your closet in your hands, pointed and firing at the enemy. And if you’re not going to really “stand and fight”, then shut your stupid yellow dog mouth and get out of our way.

Comprehensive Answer: This is not about standing and fighting anywhere, not yet. This Northwest thing is a last, desperate chance for us to survive as a species. It is about creating a situation where someday in the future we really can stand and fight and have some chance of winning our freedom from this intolerable tyranny. Our purpose is not to “stand and fight” anybody, it is to change the world we live in. That is our strategy. There will come a time when we will have to use tactics to achieve that strategy which are not available to us now for practical reasons, but that time is nowhere near. A journey of a thousand miles begins with but a single step. What we are dealing with now is our first two or three small steps on a very long and perilous journey.

While we’re on the subject, I’d like to propose a moratorium on this whole “Aryan Warrior” thing. The purpose of a warrior is war, and we are not waging war. We are trying to build so we can survive until the time comes when we have both the power and the character to deal with this unspeakable evil the oppresses us as it should have been dealt with long ago. The time of the warrior will come, but right now we need to cease deluding ourselves and stop using terminology which only leads to poor weak-minded kids doing 99 years in prison. Real world, guys. Hold onto that thought: real world.

NAY-SAY #5: "I'd like to go to the Northwest and build a new nation, but the Little Woman won't let me."

Answer Both Short and Comprehensive: The survival of your race is more important than your nightly ration of nookie or anything else in your life. Your duty has called and you do not have the right to refuse. If she won’t get with the program, divorce her ass and find yourself another mate in the Homeland.

NAY-SAY #6: "I’ve been to Seattle and Portland and Yakima and other areas in the Northwest and it’s full of non-Whites already!"

Short Answer: Well, we’ll just have to fill it with White people, won’t we?

Comprehensive Answer: Yes. Remember the demographic stats in the Butler Plan? The Establishment is very uncomfortable with those 90% Caucasian population statistics and is making a deliberate effort to bring “diversity” to the Northwest. In a sense we are trying to beat them at their own game here, and that’s not going to be easy considering the disparity of our resources.

However, on the upside, remember that where there is diversity, there is more and more White racial awareness. Non-Whites behave in certain ways calculated to get under the skin of the most tolerant honky eventually. Those thick Idaho Kallikaks are as dumb as they are racially because they simply don’t understand. They’ve never had to live with what we’ve had to live with. All those Chinese gangstas in Seattle and Mexicans in Yakima will be our best recruiters, possibly decisive ones.

Listen up, guys. No one has ever claimed that this will be easy. However, remember the key words here: “manageable proportions”. That’s what we are reducing this problem to. Yes, certain areas of the Northwest have a major mudflow problem, notably all the large urban areas and certain semi-rural ones like Yakima, I understand. It’s bad.

But as bad as it is, the rest of the North American continent as a whole is infinitely worse. As terribly hard as our task in the Northwest will prove to be, any serious attempt to cleanse all of North America is simply impossible, and everyone reading these lines knows it. It all boils down to whether or not we’re simply going to give up and die in those excrement-filled diapers in that old age home, while our Third World warehousers make bets on how long we can live on 400 calories a day. I say we go for it, and when enough of you join me, we’ll have a chance.

NAY-SAY #7: "Ah Is A Fool. Screw you, Harold, ah ain't moving nowhar becawz ah'm a dumbass who cain't rub two brain cells together and ah is incapable of understanding any political concept more complicated than 'ah hates a gawd damn nigger.' Mah Daddy done lived here in Raccoon Piss, Tennessee, and his Daddy afur him and his Daddy afur him, on back to the days when the first Kallikak was run out of Poland fer buggerin’ goats! Now gimme a RC Cola and a moon pie!"

Short Answer: The moon pies and RCs are right in front of you in that convenience store, Lucius. Can’t you read Spanish?

Comprehensive Answer: If we’d taken up arms again and revived the Confederate States of America when we should have, back in 1958 when Eisenhower sent the troops into Little Rock, then we’d have a chance now. But we didn’t and we don’t. My legal problems aside, do you think I would even consider living anywhere except North Carolina if there were any conceivable choice that would allow me to die in North Carolina and not a province of Mexico or China or India? It’s time we woke up and smelled the coffee, or at least smelled our Third World neighbors. Mene, mene, tekel upharsin.

We’re out of time. Racial life, guys. Move it or lose it.

Rounder
August 7th, 2007, 09:04 AM
Sorry Uncle Tom, but there's no place to run or hide. It's "root lil white pigs, or die", worldwide. We must fight. So get used to the idea and stop posting "valuable intellectual" excuses from the biggest, proven fake and liar in cyber space.

Newcomer, ain cha ??

Uncle John
August 7th, 2007, 11:57 AM
Sorry Uncle Tom, but there's no place to run or hide. It's "root lil white pigs, or die", worldwide. We must fight. So get used to the idea and stop posting "valuable intellectual" excuses from the biggest, proven fake and liar in cyber space.

Newcomer, ain cha ??

I know you don't like Covington, but did you bother to read this?

6KILLER
August 7th, 2007, 02:10 PM
I know you don't like Covington, but did you bother to read this? Glenn is right in his advice that there is no place to run anymore. We have beaners here in the Northwest, Nampa Idaho has regular shootings among the mestizo population, however we Whites are still the majority here unlike Southern California and the Gay Bay area. There are more like minded people here than else where in the US.

FordMiller
August 9th, 2007, 02:43 PM
I'm new here. I live in the Northwest. What location are you suggesting?

6KILLER
August 9th, 2007, 07:29 PM
I'm new here. I live in the Northwest. What location are you suggesting?
Nampa & Caldwell, Idaho

Uncle John
August 9th, 2007, 08:13 PM
The target area includes the states of Washington, Oregon, and Idaho.

www.northwesthomeland.org

www.nwhomeland.blogspot.com

America First
August 10th, 2007, 12:45 AM
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/08/states_face_is.php

Jews have had Seattle, Portland and Eugene by the balls since 1970, when Oregon only had about 8,200 messycans fouling it back them.

Robertek
October 18th, 2009, 04:53 PM
It's not about running, it's about forming ranks, forming borders, and founding an all white nation.

You can't save the US and I don't even care to try.

For those that want to secure the existence of our race, head to the Pac Northwest. For those that don't, go pass out fliers to multicult mongrels and hope some miracle saves the US from the inevitable. See where that gets you.

Alex Linder
October 20th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Covington always does what he denounces. He says whites are first-class nay-sayers, then he proves it by his own example:

We either choose to fight and die on our feet beneath the blue skies of the Northwest, like men, or we crawl and die in our own excrement-filled diapers in a nursing home being “cared for� by Nigerians and Filipinos. That’s our choice, people. Nothing else on the menu. Take your pick.

He's nay-saying ever other possibility but the option he supports - while denouncing everybody else as nay-sayers. Hal is the problem he ostensibly would cure. Perhaps the funniest thing about Hal is his penchant for trying to build his reputation by portraying himself as a lone voice of sanity in a world set against him.

The NW idea has never attracted support because it originated not in rational observation of factors making the NW particularly suited to White pioneers but out of the expediency of a few prominent Christian Identity figures being located on the west coast. Those figures are now dead and gone, and the idea of NW is as stagnant as ever because it isn't based in anything real.

Sándor Petőfi
October 21st, 2009, 09:04 AM
The NW idea has never attracted support because it originated not in rational observation of factors making the NW particularly suited to White pioneers

Versus the entire country, right? I mean, you're actually going to win a national election and instate a WN government, right? Or throw out the old government by waging a war across the entire continent, right? With the support of the majority of the white populace you've persuaded using the propaganda which has proved so effective over the past fifty years. Right?

Those figures are now dead and gone, and the idea of NW is as stagnant as ever because it isn't based in anything real.


How's VNN working for you?

Sándor Petőfi
October 21st, 2009, 09:05 AM
Sorry Uncle Tom, but there's no place to run or hide. It's "root lil white pigs, or die", worldwide. We must fight.

So how's that working for you? Fight? Where? When? How? And to accomplish what, exactly?

Alex Linder
October 21st, 2009, 03:53 PM
Versus the entire country, right? I mean, you're actually going to win a national election and instate a WN government, right? Or throw out the old government by waging a war across the entire continent, right? With the support of the majority of the white populace you've persuaded using the propaganda which has proved so effective over the past fifty years. Right?

Off point. You need to see a doctor about your contrarianism. Maybe you'll grow out of it, but it's becoming a tiresome habit.

ZOG is more than capable of crushing any movement that threatens to take over even a county - Bagwan Shree Rajneesh and his group were taken out in Oregon at just that level.


How's VNN working for you?

We still attract too many Europeans with superiority complexes, but apart from that not too badly. We have trained a good portion of the movement in how to think about jews and how to solve the problem they represent. It is unfortunate that more than should tergiversate, they return to the vomit of conservatism if no one's about to rap their nose with a no-jewspaper.

Alex Linder
October 21st, 2009, 03:57 PM
So how's that working for you? Fight? Where? When? How? And to accomplish what, exactly?

What must be done is

WHITE HS CURRICULA to create a "we."

Overt help-groups (on campaigns like NS's Winterhelfe) to build local networks. So we're seen by whites as not just talking but actually helping real whites with real problems, just as NS, Hamas, various jew groups do.

National advocacy group of legal/media pros spotlighting anti-white crime and laws and other. This group will be supported by white middle class money. It will enroll and wisen up and otherwise turn whites into Whites.

And then, eventually, when the rest is in place, and we have a level of support in the population sea, underground cells/army to "keep it fair, keep it fair," as the jew said while handing the ref a twenty.

andy
October 21st, 2009, 04:14 PM
As currently constituted Covington seems to be advocating a white nationalist happening.He has been banging on about this for years,yet appears to have made no progress in even the most fundemental requirements to create a white nationalist community.
Plenty of mainstream whites are moving to the north west of their own volition Covington seems unaware of this fact.
From my position it looks like Covington is saying turn up,tune in and get on with it ?
With what exactly ? He does'nt appear to engage in any normal political activity.He does'nt appear to engage with the public on any level whatsoever.I have seen the videos: a handful of guys in fatigues creeping about an uninhabitated rural area.
I read of the increases of rival races on the coatails of the mainstream whites moving to the north west but read nothing about any political opposition to this hostile invasion.
I write this as someone who rates Covingtons political analysis but have to say this north west caper is and was a dead duck froom the get go.If political militants of the early 80's would not respond to Matthew's call to move to the north west,what chance Covington ?
This north west happening is a millstone around Covingtons political neck he should cut it loose and get with the political programme that is needed to save the race.Dogma and stubborness will not achieve a tap for the race.

Sándor Petőfi
October 21st, 2009, 11:35 PM
ZOG is more than capable of crushing any movement that threatens to take over even a county - Bagwan Shree Rajneesh and his group were taken out in Oregon at just that level.

Oh. Yeah. Like they did in Vietnam. And Iraq. And Afghanistan.

Sándor Petőfi
October 21st, 2009, 11:39 PM
Off point.

If you say so. That doesn't change anything.

and how to solve the problem they represent.

Sure. That's just it. You haven't. When a handful of "White Nationalists" who do nothing become more numerous, you have a larger handful of "White Nationalists" who do nothing.

Art Cast
October 22nd, 2009, 12:31 AM
One thing in favour of the PNW as a location for an insurrectionist movement is the fact that the terrain is probably the best in the world for a guerrilla movement.I have worked in terrain that rivals or exceeds anything in Afghanistan or the Hindu Kush for ruggedness(at least I presume it does,I`ve never been in central Asia,although I`ve hunted mountain goats in the blue Canadian Rookies).

Lots of narrow rocky canyons and valleys where the wind currents make helicopter navigation tricky.Much of the timber growth is thick enough to nullify thermal imaging too,as an added bonus.Of course the down side of all this is finding any actual guerrillas.

andy
October 22nd, 2009, 02:20 AM
One thing in favour of the PNW as a location for an insurrectionist movement is the fact that the terrain is probably the best in the world for a guerrilla movement.I have worked in terrain that rivals or exceeds anything in Afghanistan or the Hindu Kush for ruggedness(at least I presume it does,I`ve never been in central Asia,although I`ve hunted mountain goats in the blue Canadian Rookies).

Lots of narrow rocky canyons and valleys where the wind currents make helicopter navigation tricky.Much of the timber growth is thick enough to nullify thermal imaging too,as an added bonus.Of course the down side of all this is finding any actual guerrillas.

Not only no guerillas,what if zog just ignored them and left them to it ? Living in the canyons and valleys with a subsistence existence living on ? group hugs presumably.I expect the winters are pretty severe in that area.The videos produced so far show 4 men in combat fatigues creeping about in the bushes.It is lunacy as currently set up. Covington should have set a political organisation to welcome the thousands of normal Americans that have moved there off their own bat.This idea of attracting 1,000's of paramilitaries prepared to fight for the race in a remote area is absurd.
Anologies with Afghanistan is even more absurd the longevity and effectiveness of Afghan guerillas is due to the fact that they are largely extended families constituted as clans,honed in battle over generations.Not lone misfits with a good mail order military inventory.In US terms it as if the guerillas of the civil war were still fighting a hot war.
Get real people identify your "market" in your locale and go and engage with them.There are fantastic opportunities for the white nationalist political activist in the PNW not to persue them is another wasted opportunity

strelnikov
October 22nd, 2009, 02:09 PM
As currently constituted Covington seems to be advocating a white nationalist happening.He has been banging on about this for years,yet appears to have made no progress in even the most fundemental requirements to create a white nationalist community.
Plenty of mainstream whites are moving to the north west of their own volition Covington seems unaware of this fact.
From my position it looks like Covington is saying turn up,tune in and get on with it ?
With what exactly ? He does'nt appear to engage in any normal political activity.He does'nt appear to engage with the public on any level whatsoever.I have seen the videos: a handful of guys in fatigues creeping about an uninhabitated rural area.I read of the increases of rival races on the coatails of the mainstream whites moving to the north west but read nothing about any political opposition to this hostile invasion.
I write this as someone who rates Covingtons political analysis but have to say this north west caper is and was a dead duck froom the get go.If political militants of the early 80's would not respond to Matthew's call to move to the north west,what chance Covington ?
This north west happening is a millstone around Covingtons political neck he should cut it loose and get with the political programme that is needed to save the race.Dogma and stubborness will not achieve a tap for the race.

I've read some of his stuff and he clearly states that there are hordes of white the NF calls "organic migrants" or white's who move to the PNW from places like California but would never admitt in public that it's to get away from minorities.

I don't like the videos with armed men in the woods. If nothing else it looks too childish.
The NF theory at least is that as conditions worsen and assuming white nationalist political activity in the PNW becomes effective, then ZOG will resond by outlawing the NF as a political party.
The will clearly mark ZOg as an unconstitutional government.
As to Matthews not making headway, whites weren't far enough along in their dispossesion to get up of the couch.
As Tom Chittum pointed out, the Soviet Union (our ZOG is a pale pink copy)
broke up when the Russians became 50% of the population.
As we near that point, more and more race conscious whites will begin fleeing to the PNW just as Mark Fhurman moved to Idaho after the O.J. trial and receiveing death threats.
The Northwest migration is going slow now for the same reason no serious white resistance has begun yet. The sheeple aren't hurting enough nor feeling isolated enough yet.
This is changing. 70,000 white marched in D.C. on 9/12 on an anti Obama political event. Not consciously racial yet but they are realizing they can't vote their way out of this, they have to take to the streets.
Also the first and probably last Black president has sent thousnads to SF.
2/3 of current post on SF are from people who have joined in the last year. SF membership is up from 28,000 ins '04 to 200,000 now. That is a measure of how fast WN'ism is growing.
Another indicator is personal. I'm traveling in the PNW leafleting and meeting people.

andy
October 22nd, 2009, 02:29 PM
I've read some of his stuff and he clearly states that there are hordes of white the NF calls "organic migrants" or white's who move to the PNW from places like California but would never admitt in public that it's to get away from minorities.

I don't like the videos with armed men in the woods. If nothing else it looks too childish.
The NF theory at least is that as conditions worsen and assuming white nationalist political activity in the PNW becomes effective, then ZOG will resond by outlawing the NF as a political party.
The will clearly mark ZOg as an unconstitutional government.
As to Matthews not making headway, whites weren't far enough along in their dispossesion to get up of the couch.
As Tom Chittum pointed out, the Soviet Union (our ZOG is a pale pink copy)
broke up when the Russians became 50% of the population.
As we near that point, more and more race conscious whites will begin fleeing to the PNW just as Mark Fhurman moved to Idaho after the O.J. trial and receiveing death threats.
The Northwest migration is going slow now for the same reason no serious white resistance has begun yet. The sheeple aren't hurting enough nor feeling isolated enough yet.
This is changing. 70,000 white marched in D.C. on 9/12 on an anti Obama political event. Not consciously racial yet but they are realizing they can't vote their way out of this, they have to take to the streets.
Also the first and probably last Black president has sent thousnads to SF.
2/3 of current post on SF are from people who have joined in the last year. SF membership is up from 28,000 ins '04 to 200,000 now. That is a measure of how fast WN'ism is growing.
Another indicator is personal. I'm traveling in the PNW leafleting and meeting people.

The only way normal white people will join up for radical solutions to the current problems is if normal people advocate a coherent political alternative to the current orthodoxy.
Inventing flags wearing combat fatigues and masks and constantly hitting people over the head with apocolyptical visions of catastrophic economic melt down is not normal.Also not normal whether true or not is claiming that all of America's problems are down to the activities of less than 100 jews.
American activists need to get serious and evaluate what Americans want with dispassionate objectivity,not emotional subjectivity.
Here and on other forums it is often lamented that white Americans are lemmings,sheeple,morons and imbeciles.Yet if they are so stupid how come the so called movement in the US cannot interest and motivate such stupid people very easily ?
What is the missing ingredient ?
Is it that Americans need to know as a matter of urgency that six million jews did not die in Europe in world war two?
Is it that Americans need to know as a matter of urgency that jews are working against American interests ?
Priorities people,sort out your priorities needed to get some political power

strelnikov
October 22nd, 2009, 03:12 PM
The only way normal white people will join up for radical solutions to the current problems is if normal people advocate a coherent political alternative to the current orthodoxy.
Inventing flags wearing combat fatigues and masks and constantly hitting people over the head with apocolyptical visions of catastrophic economic melt down is not normal.Also not normal whether true or not is claiming that all of America's problems are down to the activities of less than 100 jews.
American activists need to get serious and evaluate what Americans want with dispassionate objectivity,not emotional subjectivity.
Here and on other forums it is often lamented that white Americans are lemmings,sheeple,morons and imbeciles.Yet if they are so stupid how come the so called movement in the US cannot interest and motivate such stupid people very easily ?
What is the missing ingredient ?
Is it that Americans need to know as a matter of urgency that six million jews did not die in Europe in world war two?
Is it that Americans need to know as a matter of urgency that jews are working against American interests ?
Priorities people,sort out your priorities needed to get some political power

Gotta run, but quikly the basic problem is people don't want to be revolutionaries.
The average person is a finger wetter and constantly checks the prevailing political /cultural wind to guage what opoinion is and make his opinons conform.
I and Willam Pierce came to the same conclusion, that having most people be finger wetters is usually beneficial for society as you could never have a stable culture if everyone were as independant thinking as you and I.
If most people were naturally revolutionaries you could never have a stable society.
But some times that inertia gets society into trouble, such as now.
More later.

Later....
Also it is good to know some hitory. In Machiavelli's "The Discourses" in chapter 18 he states that in a corrupt state:

"Men used to living in a certain way do not wish to change,especially if they cannot see the evil for themselves but need to have it explained to them with theories and conjectures..... I propose that a problem, once it is clearly visible is difficult to set right again (in our day too many alien voters, vested business and political interest). It will not be enough to use ordinary means, as ordinary means will have become corrupted."(our two wings of one party system) Excepitonal means such as violence and arms will be necessary."

The over flow rowdy town hall meetings, the 9/12 95% white march on Washington is the beginning of whites realizing that voting is no longer enough.

Art Cast
October 22nd, 2009, 06:08 PM
Not only no guerillas,what if zog just ignored them and left them to it ?
google "the bushman of the Shuswap"
Living in the canyons and valleys with a subsistence existence living on ?
There's lots of people living in the bush in B.C.Nutjobs mostly (mad trappers and the like).However anybody who can smoke a salmon can have enough food to last a while here(this year there was between 30 and 50 million returning salmon,coastwide.Even in a bad year there's usually at least 5 million).Mind you it isn't quite as productive in the interior as the land isn't very fertile.Certainly you could tuck quite a few people in the back country in various places but retards would be unlikely to survive the winter except on the coast
group hugs presumably.I expect the winters are pretty severe in that area.
Only to pussies.
The videos produced so far show 4 men in combat fatigues creeping about in the bushes.It is lunacy as currently set up.
gotta agree
Covington should have set a political organisation to welcome the thousands of normal Americans that have moved there off their own bat.This idea of attracting 1,000's of paramilitaries prepared to fight for the race in a remote area is absurd.
I didn't say it was a good idea,nor did I say it was a bad one.I said it was possible.
Anologies with Afghanistan is even more absurd the longevity and effectiveness of Afghan guerillas is due to the fact that they are largely extended families constituted as clans,honed in battle over generations.
No guerrilla operation can survive without a general populace that won't rat them out to the bad guys.
Not lone misfits with a good mail order military inventory.
I'm against these massive inventories that the loonies constantly accumulate.Slows them down and provides the enemy with a perceivable target.
In US terms it as if the guerillas of the civil war were still fighting a hot war.
Get real people identify your "market" in your locale and go and engage with them.There are fantastic opportunities for the white nationalist political activist in the PNW not to persue them is another wasted opportunity
I guess my point would be that if a viable anti-zog movement ever takes off here and zog does decide to crush it there really isn't better country to fight in.As to living off the land lots of rural Canadians are pretty good at it.In particular,out west, the Scots/Irish types are accomplished.The Frenchies do well too (especially the Acadians).

strelnikov
October 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM
More on our current situation from Machiavelli.
In “ The Discourses” ch. 6 he explains how Venice handled diversity.
“They often convened in councils to deliberate on matters concerning to the city, and when it
seemed they had enough members in their coucils to form a vital civic
system they closed the doors to all further newcomers to Venice, preventing
them from participating in the government….those who came later found
the government formed and closed ..and so..did not spark turmoil..as nothing had been
taken from them (i.e. no path to citizenship)

Rounder
October 23rd, 2009, 06:34 PM
So how's that working for you? Fight? Where? When? How? And to accomplish what, exactly?

(Covington)

"We either choose to fight and die on our feet beneath the blue skies of the Northwest, like men, or we crawl and die in our own excrement-filled diapers in a nursing home being “cared for” by Nigerians and Filipinos. That’s our choice, people. Nothing else on the menu. Take your pick." (unquote)

NOTE: This from the "man" who led the NSPA in NC for 5 freakin years, and never once mustered up the guts to stage one single public demonstration. And he urged his men to go to Greensboro on 3 Nov 79, but didn't show up, himself.

In answer to your questions, I don't have answers. But in my calculative judgment, our only chance will come when, and only when, the shit hits the fan - collapsed economy means inevitable race wars, coast to coast. You questions will be answered then. Providence will decide if we're fit to live. And it's coming, just as sure as grits are groceries.

Donald E. Pauly
October 23rd, 2009, 06:46 PM
This is MY country. The only migration that I am interested in is a Southern Migration to Mexico for Mexicans, a Southeastern Migration for Negroes to Africa, and an Eastern Migration of Jews to Israel.

I have no problem with Tubbs making his Northwest Migration if that will shut him up.

Rounder
October 25th, 2009, 11:28 AM
This is MY country. The only migration that I am interested in is a Southern Migration to Mexico for Mexicans, a Southeastern Migration for Negroes to Africa, and an Eastern Migration of Jews to Israel.

I have no problem with Tubbs making his Northwest Migration if that will shut him up.

Well said. I see the future as follows:

Following the collapse of the economy and after race wars have raged for a few years, causing the JOG to lose control, respect, and credibility, the various organized, militant, white, black, hispanic, and asian leaders will have the opportunity to sit down together without jew interference and sabotage, and split up the North American continent into racialist/nationalist states. Area size will naturally be based on the percentage of the population each race constitutes. The white 65% will take all of Canada and Alaska plus 1/4th the continental United States located in the northwest. PROVIDED the others agree to take in jews, "part Indians", and die hard whiggers, that is.

I figure 100 million remaining whites will qualify for citizenship in white America. Within two generations of selective breeding programs and proper indoctrinations, led, financed, and mandated by the state, we'll level off and stabalize a population of 250-300 million healthy, happy, high quality, jew-free, white people who'll dominate the world for the next 10,000 years. Or until the next gigantic meteorite hit, whichever comes first.

How's that plan grab ya ??

strelnikov
October 25th, 2009, 04:21 PM
This is MY country. The only migration that I am interested in is a Southern Migration to Mexico for Mexicans, a Southeastern Migration for Negroes to Africa, and an Eastern Migration of Jews to Israel.

I have no problem with Tubbs making his Northwest Migration if that will shut him up.

Would you move 200 miles to join a community of White Nationalist activist?
I'm having to move 3,000 it looks like.
My army tarining taught me to link up so we could fight in mass.

April
August 28th, 2011, 05:11 PM
The difference between the NW Front fantasy and the reality of a Pioneer Little Europe.


Is my plan like Harold Covingtons? Basically no, not at all. My plan is not based on a set of novels about violence. It is not about forming quasi military groups and committing crimes. I think that anyone who is planning that far ahead is crazier than a peach orchard boar. My plan involves basics and I refuse to put the cart before the horse, talk about borders, laws or leaders right now. I think anyone who does that is either naive or just plain living in a fantasy world.

My plan involves basics like I said. Creating white community, working to educate local whites to racial and historical issues, networking with locals who share similar views on issues, helping migrants to settle to the area, and to advertise the ideas of Northwest Migration to the White masses who are ready to get out of multicultural areas.

Some of the ways we are accomplishing these things are 1. Creating white community by having BBQs and events for local WNs or sympathizers to attend. 2. Working to educate local whites by having speakers, showing films and writing letters to the editor. 3.Networking with locals involved in the Pro Life movement, gun rights, and other political issues. 4.Helping migrants by advising, giving them information and being a resource for physical, emotional and spiritual help in their move. 5. Advertising the idea of NW migration on various websites, both racial and nonracial,reaching out to Whites across the country who might want to move here.

The time frame on this could be 5 years or it could be 25 years. I honestly just dont know. It depends on lots of things like the economy and politics and so forth.Obviously we need to get a large number of people thinking racially and that has to happen by lots of our people moving here as well as connecting with those already here. When we have sufficient numbers an organic movement will develop, groups will form and leaders will emerge. My job as I see it is to help promote the idea of NW migration and to help the migrants get up here and get settled.

http://kalispellple.blogspot.com/

MeltinGiovanni
November 15th, 2011, 02:42 AM
Not only no guerillas,what if zog just ignored them and left them to it ? Living in the canyons and valleys with a subsistence existence living on ? group hugs presumably.I expect the winters are pretty severe in that area.The videos produced so far show 4 men in combat fatigues creeping about in the bushes.It is lunacy as currently set up. Covington should have set a political organisation to welcome the thousands of normal Americans that have moved there off their own bat.This idea of attracting 1,000's of paramilitaries prepared to fight for the race in a remote area is absurd.
Anologies with Afghanistan is even more absurd the longevity and effectiveness of Afghan guerillas is due to the fact that they are largely extended families constituted as clans,honed in battle over generations.Not lone misfits with a good mail order military inventory.In US terms it as if the guerillas of the civil war were still fighting a hot war.
Get real people identify your "market" in your locale and go and engage with them.There are fantastic opportunities for the white nationalist political activist in the PNW not to persue them is another wasted opportunity

The thing I don't agree with HAC about is the fact that he does think that all this can happen in a remote area. I know I want no part of living extremely far from work.. I am the type of WN who would get down in the cities and try to do things and I have considered the PNW...just not the really rural places for living.. only to visit. I think even in Portland itself you could talk about this kind of stuff with people. I mean ya theres bleeding liberals and all but its not hopeless. Just have to know where to go. I am all for an Urban WN movement.. I am not sure if I told anyone here yet but I think its a better idea than the NWF and it won't have 5 novels behind it either.

Donald E. Pauly
November 15th, 2011, 10:17 AM
The thing I don't agree with HAC about is the fact that he does think that all this can happen in a remote area. I know I want no part of living extremely far from work.. I am the type of WN who would get down in the cities and try to do things and I have considered the PNW...just not the really rural places for living.. only to visit. I think even in Portland itself you could talk about this kind of stuff with people. I mean ya theres bleeding liberals and all but its not hopeless. Just have to know where to go. I am all for an Urban WN movement.. I am not sure if I told anyone here yet but I think its a better idea than the NWF and it won't have 5 novels behind it either.

I don't know that Covington has had a real job in his life. He and Duke have been professional racists for their entire lives. They both want people with real jobs to give them money. Duke at least is not quite so nutty. When society collapses and the race war starts, all of the action will be in the urban areas. Agriculture will collapse because of the lack of imported oil and mass starvation will ensue. The back woods can only support one person to perhaps 10 square miles.

Ted Rock
August 20th, 2012, 09:52 PM
A very interesting conversation. One of the few people I can actually talk to is a cousin who served in Afghanistan and who is in his early 20s. I mentioned the NW migration idea to him and he said, "If collapse comes we may as well stay right where I was raised. It is a pretty tight knit mostly white community where folks have known each other for a long time. We have crops growing and the terrain is good if we should have to band together with weapons to stop food rioters." I enjoyed reading the NW novel "The Brigade." I like what April has to say. Also that was a good post about how after years of fighting the various leaders will sit down and divide up the US. I have been reading a lot on here. Hopefully a moderator will go ahead and put me to the next level so I can see my own profile.

Brent McKaskell
August 28th, 2012, 08:13 PM
April Gaede said: "Some of the ways we are accomplishing these things are 1. Creating white community by having BBQs and events for local WNs or sympathizers to attend. 2. Working to educate local whites by having speakers, showing films and writing letters to the editor. 3.Networking with locals involved in the Pro Life movement, gun rights, and other political issues. 4.Helping migrants by advising, giving them information and being a resource for physical, emotional and spiritual help in their move. 5. Advertising the idea of NW migration on various websites, both racial and nonracial,reaching out to Whites across the country who might want to move here."

Is any of this successful, though? If the answer is 'yes', can you or someone else offer observable evidence that it is? If you cannot, then you are asking that we take what you say on faith. Others might be willing (or gullible enough) to do that, but I demand hard data: numbers, photos, testimonials, and more.