Can you guys please provide me with information about the kosher tax?

Is it an actual state or local tax? Or do private food companies simply pay money for rabbis to inspect their food?

How much profit do jews make off of this a year?

Since when did this start?

And can anyone give me a good guess of where they think this is going to go in the next few years?

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http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html
Same site Franco posted, but a different page. Familiarize yourself with these symbols. I didn't know all of them were an indication of kosher until recently. It is very difficult, but possible, to maintain a kosher free kitchen. After a few trips to the grocery store you will know which brands are safe and which aren't. Cutting out the jew is the most important thing we as White Nationalists can do, and you will save money and eat healthier.

The amount is miniscule. A few years ago, laid off from my programming job, I decided to open my own business. I like to cook, so I opened an Internet shop selling candies. Not huge, but paid the bills for a while. Curious about kosher certification, I did a quick web search and asked a group that does them how much it would cost, what was involved, etc.

The rabbi basically told me that at the size of my company, it wouldn’t make much sense. Although, when I asked, he told me that big companies like Nabisco, etc, pay about 10 million a year. He told me that certifications last as long as the process is the same. If they change ingredients, machines, processes or whatever, the rabbis come back out.

How much is that divided by their profits? A thousandth of a percent? Less?

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Of course, since he was a rabbi, he was lying right? Jews always lie to us goys. ALWAYS!! I mean, most food companies actually pay about 50% or more of their money to jews, right? It’s a massive hidden tax of everything you eat!
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Seriously though, the rationale behind it is simple. I don’t care if my shampoo is “certified not tested on animals.” But someone may care. It may even affect their buying decision. So, a company, not wanting to lose those customers, gets a certification.

Now, since I don’t care, it doesn’t affect me. The extra 1 penny doesn’t bother me.

To those that do care, they can now buy in peace. And that extra 1 penny is worth it for them.

Lastly, the company isn’t losing a sale they would have otherwise. Everybody wins.

That extra "one penny" (and believe me, it is much more than one penny) on everything you buy, every time you go to the grocery, adds up fast to a LOT of money for the jews.

I showed a bunch of kosher certified items in our larder to my wifey with a short comment about this. among the items: organic eggs, morton's salt. I compared the morton's to some non-kosher French coarse sea salt. I then showed a third item, some herbal remedy stuff, which was not circle u or pareve like the other two-- but one with a bunch of them goofy zhid letters on it. She laughed and said, I dont believe you on the first two, but I agree not to buy the one with the hebrew on it.

I said, that's fine, just file it away and you'll remember and then consider whether you are paying rabbis next time you go to the grocery store.

Anyways, this kind of response shows why most of the kosher marks are more innocuous than the ones with the squiggley jew letters on them.

Glex wrote:

Now, since I don’t care, it doesn’t affect me. The extra 1 penny doesn’t bother me.

To those that do care, they can now buy in peace. And that extra 1 penny is worth it for them.

Lastly, the company isn’t losing a sale they would have otherwise. Everybody wins.



What a strange thing to say at a WN forum.

Yes, one extra penny means nothing. But multiply that penny times 1,000 or times 10,000 -- depending on what you buy in a year's time -- and it adds up.

Why defend a Jewish practice at a WN forum, Glex?




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What a strange thing to say at a WN forum.

Yes, one extra penny means nothing. But multiply that penny times 1,000 or times 10,000 -- depending on what you buy in a year's time -- and it adds up.

Why defend a Jewish practice at a WN forum, Glex?




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mmmm.... because he's an anti?

I think it's fair to say kosher tax might average a dime on each product. This is a complete guess, but it sounds reasonable to me, although I'm sure some foods will be taxed more than others. So if each item is taxed .10, and you buy 50 kosher items per week, there's $20 per month. in a year you have given the jew $240. Now, multiply that by EVERYONE in the USA and there's a rough idea of how much they make off kosher food.

Well, how many Whites show up at a WN forum and make comments like that?

Especially this:

"Lastly, the company isn’t losing a sale they would have otherwise. Everybody wins."

What on Earth does that quote mean? Do Whites "win" with the kosher tax?


Note to all VNN Forum posters: If I suspect someone is a troll, deliberately saying things like this [as part of a program or plan], I will ban him. I keep a list of 'suspected trolls at VNN Forum.'



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I think it's fair to say kosher tax might average a dime on each product. This is a complete guess, but it sounds reasonable to me, although I'm sure some foods will be taxed more than others. So if each item is taxed .10, and you buy 50 kosher items per week, there's $20 per month. in a year you have given the jew $240. Now, multiply that by EVERYONE in the USA and there's a rough idea of how much they make off kosher food.
Well if you are just guessing Demonica, why not say it averages 40 cents on the dollar? Why not 90? Your "guess" isn't even an educated one. You might as well be making up numbers out of thin air. For all you know, it could be signifigantly less than "a dime on each product". It could be 10 cents on every hundred dollars. It might even be {gasp} just as much as the rabbi said it was!

What on Earth does that quote mean? Do Whites "win" with the kosher tax?

Simple. I’ll give you the example of products “not tested on animals.” A company can decide to either get a certification that they are not tested on animals, or not. It’s a decision they make.

If they decide not to get so certified, they may lose customers that do care about animal testing. Customers that don’t care, still won’t care. The company loses (some) sales.

If they do decide to get so certified, customers that do care about animal testing can now buy their product. They may even stop buying a competing product, based on that fact. And the extra penny or two it costs isn’t a deterrent at all to them. Consumers that don’t care, still don’t care. The extra penny or two will probably not change anyone’s buying decision, and if it does, the new customers more than offset it.

So you see? Kosher certification is no different than “Not tested on animals”. Yet I don’t see any thread about how that is adding to the cost of your products.

How many non-Jews really give a s*** if a rabbi approved their food? The kosher tax is on M&Ms, butterfingers, etc.

Kosher certification is no different than “Not tested on animals”. Yet I don’t see any thread about how that is adding to the cost of your products.

Well, I for one care about animals much more than jews. So I don't mind paying a few extra cents to insure my shampoo wasn't injected into the eyes of cute little bunny rabbits. There is a world of difference between animal testing and making jews richer.

Well if you are just guessing Demonica, why not say it averages 40 cents on the dollar? Why not 90? Your "guess" isn't even an educated one. You might as well be making up numbers out of thin air. For all you know, it could be signifigantly less than "a dime on each product". It could be 10 cents on every hundred dollars. It might even be {gasp} just as much as the rabbi said it was!

I made it very clear I was making a guess. .10 sounds like a reasonable enough number. Maybe it's more, maybe it's less. It doesn't really impact me, because NOTHING kosher enters my house. I would like to know the exact figure, though, for the purpose of educating others on the subject.

[QUOTE=Franco]Well, how many Whites show up at a WN forum and make comments like that?

Especially this:

What on Earth does that quote mean? Do Whites "win" with the kosher tax?


Note to all VNN Forum posters: If I suspect someone is a troll, deliberately saying things like this [as part of a program or plan], I will ban him. I keep a list of 'suspected trolls at VNN Forum.'

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Glex is only anti-WN so he should not be regarded a troll. He says he isnt a jew and is White however.

Maybe you could add an "anti" designator to his name/avatar thing, rather than ban them. antis stimulate discussion and

Glex is right to the extent that the decision to pay for Kosher certification (however much it is) is an economic decision. But we can use that to our advantage - the minute a company realizes that the certification is costing them more sales than it is gaining them, the certification will be removed. Simple as that. So in the future, rather than just not buying kosher products, take a few minutes to write to the company and inform them of their lost sales.

Glex is right to the extent that the decision to pay for Kosher certification (however much it is) is an economic decision. But we can use that to our advantage - the minute a company realizes that the certification is costing them more sales than it is gaining them, the certification will be removed. Simple as that. So in the future, rather than just not buying kosher products, take a few minutes to write to the company and inform them of their lost sales.
That's been my point from the very beginning. If paying that small amount is so odious, don't pay it. They are free to charge it, you are free to pay it or not.

Glex is right to the extent that the decision to pay for Kosher certification (however much it is) is an economic decision. But we can use that to our advantage - the minute a company realizes that the certification is costing them more sales than it is gaining them, the certification will be removed. Simple as that. So in the future, rather than just not buying kosher products, take a few minutes to write to the company and inform them of their lost sales.


It's not that easy, and I suspect that certain people know that. If you live in a small town and your grocer only carries three brands of ketchup, and all three are major, kosher-marked brands, then you must pay for kosher.

Why the heck is the onus on gentiles?


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It's not that easy, and I suspect that certain people know that. If you live in a small town and your grocer only carries three brands of ketchup, and all three are major, kosher-marked brands, then you must pay for kosher.

Your grocer is a businessman too. Let him know that you won't buy products with kosher labels. Tell him to buy local and specialty brands (which are usually not kosher). Or make your own ketchup, mayo etc. Or better yet, start your own business selling non-kosher goods to whites over the internet.

I have an archived collection of Kosher certification symbols which I will eventually be uploading to a website. However, I've spotted one symbol at work which I'm not sure of. It's a V in a circle, on a bucket of Fleischmann's Yeast. Is a V in a circle another Kosher symbol?

I have never seen this symbol anywhere except on this yeast.

[Edit: Attached is a sample of barcode that indicates Israeli origin.]

Hello readers, I'm new here and this is my first post. I've been reading VNN, as well as various other websites dealing with the problem of jews, for a couple of years now. I was raised to be "jew aware" and have been so all my life.

About the kosher tax, I can't believe how many people here are failing to grasp some basic issues.

For one, it is not an issue of how much or little the individual consumer pays for the tax, but rather how much the rabbinical certification groups make on all of the products they certify.

I certainly disagree with a previous poster's estimate of 10 cents per product. That figure is absurdly high. The real cost to the consumer is probably only a small fraction of a penny. But the point is, is that when you add up all of the thousands of products that are produced and sold on a daily basis, the small amounts charged per item add up to an enourmous amount of money for these jewish groups.
That is the real issue here. It's not how little it costs the consumer, but how much the jews are making off of it as a whole. That's the essence of the scam.

Another point that hasn't been made in this discussion is that the vast majority of consumers are totally unaware that this kosher "tax" even exists - and therein lies the biggest lie, namely, the lie that kosher certification will increase a product's sales. How can the sale of a product increase when virtually no one is aware that a given product has been kosher certified and labeled?
I have asked approximately 15-20 acquaintances (they're average folks, not jew-aware) whether they know what these various labels on food products mean and I have yet to find someone who does.

All of these points are addressed by Professor Prytulak at his Ukrainian Archive website at http://www.ukar.org/index.html, the link that was given in some earlier post in this discussion.

Another argument the jews like to make in regard to this issue, is that it is not only kosher-observant jews that buy kosher certified products, but also other groups who sometimes practice similar food restrictions, such as Muslims.
Well, that particular argument might gain some validity the day that Muslims and such start their own certification companies. As yet, I only see the jew as having the audacity to impose fees upon every consumer in order to satisfy the requirements of his so-called religion. (Requirements that are observed by only a tiny fraction of jews, I might add.)

Last year, I had an email exchange with James Ennes. He is the author of the book _Assault on the Liberty_, which tells of his experience in the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty spy ship.
We got to talking about the kosher fees and he wrote that when he was a young man (back in the 1940's or thereabouts) he worked in his father's business. His father ran a food manufacturing plant for a major company, I forget the name of it. He said he remembers that a rabbi would come to the plant periodically and simply pick up a fat check from his father. The rabbi did nothing in regard to inspecting the plant or anything like that. He simply picked up the check.
Mr. Ennes wrote that when his father complained to his superiors at the company and told them that he no longer intended to pay the rabbi, he was told to continue the payments and that this is part of the cost of conducting business.
Mr. Ennes wrote that he and his father had always assumed that this was isolated case.

Last year, I had an email exchange with James Ennes. He is the author of the book _Assault on the Liberty_, which tells of his experience in the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty spy ship.
We got to talking about the kosher fees and he wrote that when he was a young man (back in the 1940's or thereabouts) he worked in his father's business. His father ran a food manufacturing plant for a major company, I forget the name of it. He said he remembers that a rabbi would come to the plant periodically and simply pick up a fat check from his father. The rabbi did nothing in regard to inspecting the plant or anything like that. He simply picked up the check.
Mr. Ennes wrote that when his father complained to his superiors at the company and told them that he no longer intended to pay the rabbi, he was told to continue the payments and that this is part of the cost of conducting business.
Mr. Ennes wrote that he and his father had always assumed that this was isolated case.

He should have beaten the rabbi's ass in and kept the money!!! :p

The kosher tax is relabeled extortion. RICO Act should apply. Rabbinical councils as Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations! Natural, except they own the courts.
And how does that happen? Everyone jokes about getting a jew lawyer. Where do they think judges come from? The lawyer pool. Nice place to go fishing for judges, eh?
Maybe the first question you should ask a lawyer is "what church do you go to?" Non-jews may not be as effective. You may actually have to have a case. But if enough people mention a preference for gentile representation, the partnerships will have to get some on staff to control market share.
Beautiful dream. But the alternative, for now, "vote the bums out", will not work.
Now, back to those rabbis and their extortion racket.

Simple. I’ll give you the example of products “not tested on animals.” A company can decide to either get a certification that they are not tested on animals, or not. It’s a decision they make.

If they decide not to get so certified, they may lose customers that do care about animal testing. Customers that don’t care, still won’t care. The company loses (some) sales.

If they do decide to get so certified, customers that do care about animal testing can now buy their product. They may even stop buying a competing product, based on that fact. And the extra penny or two it costs isn’t a deterrent at all to them. Consumers that don’t care, still don’t care. The extra penny or two will probably not change anyone’s buying decision, and if it does, the new customers more than offset it.

So you see? Kosher certification is no different than “Not tested on animals”. Yet I don’t see any thread about how that is adding to the cost of your products.

the cost of the product is irrelevant it's the profits that jewish groups make and where that money ends up.

The proportion of customers who care about their food being kosher or know what those K or OU symbols mean is probably low, lower than what the jewish groups claim. But once a large company decides to certify their product all its suppliers must too so they all have to pay jews.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=21467


Majority of US Food Ingredients Now Kosher, Study Shows
http://web.archive.org/web/20040102023257/http://www.koshertoday.com/weekly+news+archives/2002/061702.htm#3
Quote:
Shaule Wassertheil, who is representing IMC [the publisher of trade magazine KOSHER Today] here, said that "no food ingredient manufacturer can hope to sell to the large food manufactures if their products are not kosher certified."

If people REALLY wanted kosher, they would advertise kosher like "Lemon-scented!". Instead they try to hide kosher as much as possible, except on pickles, for some reason.

Oh, wait a minute, I'm behind the times, now there are Hebrew National Kosher Hot Dogs and maybe something else. I did hear a young, liberal Christian family bragging about their kosher hot dogs last summer. I'll never buy Hebrew National Kosher Hot Dogs, so I'll never know if they are better than ordinary hot dogs.

I know VM is a Kosher symbol. I certain product I buy used to have a glitzy gold VM sticker on the bottom. Now it has a tacky black and white VM sticker that looks utilititarian "Army Issue". I don't know if the company is just on the downslide or if they are trying to fool people that this is some kind of government inspection label.

They told me the sticker was called a "Vot" or something like that.

I have also heard some one working at this business say "Let's make sure we're kosher when the Rabbi gets here". Kosher ratings are a scam on all levels.

Edit: Here's a page with kosher signs, including V for Vaad, it seems.
http://www.yrm.org/koshersymbols.htm

The opinion that we should have to pay ANY amount of money to jews is lunacy.

The rabbi basically told me that at the size of my company, it wouldn’t make much sense. Although, when I asked, he told me that big companies like Nabisco, etc, pay about 10 million a year. He told me that certifications last as long as the process is the same. If they change ingredients, machines, processes or whatever, the rabbis come back out.

I think that this is untrue. A friend of mine works at a seasonal food plant, and rabbis come in there to do their kosher-thing EVERY season. Has anyone failed to view Understanding Anti-Semitism:Why do some people dislike Jews? We have kosher steel, kosher cleaning products, kosher aluminum foil...who eats those items? Its more ripping-off-the-gentiles from the jews!

I think I am going to confront every jew I see about this kosher tax, and demand justification for why we non-jews have to pay for it. I am curious to see their reaction.

The opinion that we should have to pay ANY amount of money to jews is lunacy.



I think that this is untrue. A friend of mine works at a seasonal food plant, and rabbis come in there to do their kosher-thing EVERY season. Has anyone failed to view Understanding Anti-Semitism:Why do some people dislike Jews? We have kosher steel, kosher cleaning products, kosher aluminum foil...who eats those items? Its more ripping-off-the-gentiles from the jews!

I think I am going to confront every jew I see about this kosher tax, and demand justification for why we non-jews have to pay for it. I am curious to see their reaction.

Time to expose the talmudic sheenies for what they are--robbers and shylocks!