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Scotland88
06-05-2004, 03:52 PM
The top right part of the Map below is part of Britain and the bottom is part of Ireland.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9804/19/nireland/ireland.dublin.map.lg.jpg
Do you think there should be a United Ireland?
Or should Ulster remain British forever?
Lunarian
06-05-2004, 04:13 PM
I would like to see Northern Ireland turned into a completely sovereign nation as a compromise.
Fehér Brigád
06-05-2004, 04:49 PM
This is a hard decision, but for the most part I think a Ireland should be for the Irish. They just need to clean house with the liberals, and commies in the government ranks.
EuroKnight
06-05-2004, 05:00 PM
The most important thing: Europe.
These kind of disputes will fade with the years. We should see thing in a european perspective.
No more war between the european peoples.
WRMC 14
06-05-2004, 05:46 PM
For the first time I think I can find myself agreeing with this Euroknight jerk. We need a United Europe, hell we need a united White Race for crying out loud. I think somebody should find some of Hitlers DNA and just clone the man so we can all end the bullshit and get back to the bussiness of securing the White mans existence on this planet. .
[QUOTE=EuroKnight]The most important thing: Europe.
These kind of disputes will fade with the years. We should see thing in a european perspective.
No more war between the european peoples.[/QUOTE]
heaven above
06-05-2004, 06:16 PM
A United Ireland ?
A bit too premature mate ! :rolleyes:
Hell, we are only just getting started a real nationalist movement in Ireland. It's too soon, especially as this has been an IRA/Republican slogan for many a year :mad:
WRMC 14
06-05-2004, 08:43 PM
Perhaps boat loads of "ASYLUM SEEKERS" will help the Irish wake up and realize that the the survival of the White Race is bigger then any one man. I read a article just the other day about some Irish boys ruffing up some Gook invaders. Lets hope to see more of this in the future.
[QUOTE=heaven above]A United Ireland ?
A bit too premature mate ! :rolleyes:
Hell, we are only just getting started a real nationalist movement in Ireland. It's too soon, especially as this has been an IRA/Republican slogan for many a year :mad:[/QUOTE]
I agree with EuroKnight too.
I'm an Amerikwan, so maybe this is none of my business, but I say, never mind a united Ireland. What I'd like to see is a United British Isles: united against the 'groid, against the asian, against the muslim, against the jew.
[FONT=Arial Narrow]Time to put your differences behind you, and realize what you have in common. Enough of this fratricidal nonsense.[/FONT]
The Irish deserve to be governed by whomever the majority of the population of the country elects. If that means that the 6 counties of Ulster remain in the United Kingdom, that's their choice. Nobody else has any right to dictate to them what country they should ally themselves with.
Storm88
06-06-2004, 11:04 AM
I would like to see Ireland united as part of a National Socialist Greater Britsh State which doesn't seem be an option on your poll. But in the meantime Britain should not surrender an inch of territory to anyone.
The white against white conflict in Northern Ireland is a boil on the backside of British nationalism. I doubt if any satisfactory outcome is possible within the present political system.
S88
[QUOTE=Storm88] But in the meantime Britain should not surrender an inch of territory to anyone.
S88[/QUOTE]
What do you mean?
EuroKnight
06-06-2004, 02:21 PM
[QUOTE=WRMC 14]For the first time I think I can find myself agreeing with this Euroknight jerk. We need a United Europe, hell we need a united White Race for crying out loud. I think somebody should find some of Hitlers DNA and just clone the man so we can all end the bullshit and get back to the bussiness of securing the White mans existence on this planet. .[/QUOTE]
You are confused. Hitler was never ever a white racialist as the 'Movement' understands it today. He was a german nationalist.
It was his excessive german nationalism that wrecked europe. Hitler is, for a large degree, responsible for that state we are in today.
He fucked up big time. To just name one fact: his stupid anti slavic stance which made him loose the war.
A new Hitler would be the end of the white race. We do not need another corporal who wants to play general.
You 'stormtroopers' are confused people. And you do not know a damn thing about NS germany.
---Hitler was never ever a white racialist, but a german nationalist.
FranzJoseph
06-06-2004, 02:56 PM
[QUOTE=Kurt]
I'm an Amerikwan, so maybe this is none of my business...[/QUOTE]
Right. The poll should be restricted to Irish members, and the rest of us should stay off this thread forthwith.
First pan-Nordics, then pan-Celtics? No, no, NO!
I think Pat Buchanan said it best:
"I'm a German American, I'm a Scotch Irish American, and I'm an Irish American but I'm an American first."
Wow. I got goosebumps just reading that. USA! USA! USA! :rolleyes:
Correction: I'm a White man first. Amerikwan is a distant second. Very distant. Amerikwan "culture" -- if you can even call it that -- has thoroughly fucked up the world, by making the Jew more powerful, and deifying the Negro, to name just two examples. And we wonder why we are so hated?
I hate Pat Buchanan, anyway. He's a non-racialist Amerikwan-firster, who puts his Xianity and nationality above his Race. Any WN who thinks he's on our side is deluded. Real White racialists (like me) know better. Pat wuvs Mestizos, niggers, gooks -- as long as they all assimilate. Sorry Pat, but they don't belong here. I don't give a shit how well they assimilate. America is a White man's nation. Amerikwa isn't. I choose America.
Hey, she's Irish. Maybe she should vote.
http://www.mixedfolks.com/images/samanthamumba.jpg
[SIZE=1][FONT=Arial Narrow]Samatha Mumba (http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0612571/)[/FONT][/SIZE]
Take a good look, Eire. If you put nationalism over Race, then she is your future.
Nationalism without a racial basis is meaningless.
WRMC 14
06-06-2004, 05:13 PM
No I think you are confused,Hitler was a National Socialist. He did not define German people as those within the confines of the country of Germany. Hitler was very much a white racialist despite the fact that he did not include several sub species of the White Race into his master plan. The problem with you is you are not 100 years old and you were'nt around in those days and I think it would be really hard to understand why things fell in the places they did unless you were there. You can read all the damn books you want but the fact is the winners of wars write history as they see fit and 60 year old German SS Officers do tend to suffer a bit of memory loss over the years. Anyways you can look at National Socialist Germany in whatver light you like, I don't give a shit,but don't come preaching your bullshit to me about how Hitler was'nt the savior for the White Race. You might not be here today had Hitler not taken the action he did.
[QUOTE=EuroKnight]You are confused. Hitler was never ever a white racialist as the 'Movement' understands it today. He was a german nationalist.
It was his excessive german nationalism that wrecked europe. Hitler is, for a large degree, responsible for that state we are in today.
He fucked up big time. To just name one fact: his stupid anti slavic stance which made him loose the war.
A new Hitler would be the end of the white race. We do not need another corporal who wants to play general.
You 'stormtroopers' are confused people. And you do not know a damn thing about NS germany.
---Hitler was never ever a white racialist, but a german nationalist.[/QUOTE]
Australianrage
06-06-2004, 09:11 PM
The problem with the Irish question is that Ireland does not have a secular government.
If the people of Northern Ireland could be guaranteed of a secular government, they would probably not be so opposed to reunification.
The problem with Ireland is that the law of the land is used to inflict Catholic dogma upon the entire population, whether they are Catholic or not.
For example, the concraceptive pill is not legally available in Ireland. Last I heard Irish women were buying it by mail order from Britain, or taking day trips to the north to stock up on an annual supply of the pill.
What sort of loonie country makes it a crime for a woman to regulate her own fertility, so that a couple can plan a family?
When the Catholics stop being so bloody minded and determined to inflict their religion on everyone else, some progress might be made to Irish reunification.
Catholicism was not the glue that held Europe together during the Dark Ages. It was the dead hand of Rome that plunged Europe into the Dark Ages and a state of arrested development for 1,000 years.
I may be Australian, but I had an Irish paternal grandmother (a protestant) who was in Ulster in 1916. The stories she told were horrifying. I still have relatives in Ulster. They would die before they would be forced to bend the knee to the will of the Catholic Church via the instrument of government power.
[QUOTE=Australianrage]The problem with the Irish question is that Ireland does not have a secular government.
If the people of Northern Ireland could be guaranteed of a secular government, they would probably not be so opposed to reunification.
The problem with Ireland is that the law of the land is used to inflict Catholic dogma upon the entire population, whether they are Catholic or not.
For example, the concraceptive pill is not legally available in Ireland. Last I heard Irish women were buying it by mail order from Britain, or taking day trips to the north to stock up on an annual supply of the pill.
What sort of loonie country makes it a crime for a woman to regulate her own fertility, so that a couple can plan a family?
When the Catholics stop being so bloody minded and determined to inflict their religion on everyone else, some progress might be made to Irish reunification.
Catholicism was not the glue that held Europe together during the Dark Ages. It was the dead hand of Rome that plunged Europe into the Dark Ages and a state of arrested development for 1,000 years.
I may be Australian, but I had an Irish paternal grandmother (a protestant) who was in Ulster in 1916. The stories she told were horrifying. I still have relatives in Ulster. They would die before they would be forced to bend the knee to the will of the Catholic Church via the instrument of government power.[/QUOTE]
No, the contraceptive pill is perfectly legal in Ireland. It's just the "morning after" pill that is illegal, because it is considered an abortifacient (An abortifacient is a drug which induces an abortion or a miscarriage.) Incidentally, maybe if other "progressive", western governments weren't so eager to appease the feminists and automatically endorse and legalise all methods of abortion at the drop of a hat, we wouldn't be facing the demographic crisis of so few white babies that we are today.
The Irish republic was at one time heavily influenced by the catholic church. This was the official basis of the northern protestants unwillingness to join the republic. But the influence of the church died a long time ago.
The real reason they don't want to join the republic is because they see themselves as ethnically British (as most of them originally came from Scotland or England over 300 years ago). That's a good enough reason for them to want to remain separate in my books...but why blame the catholic church?
p.s. what "horrifying" stories did they tell you.... (babies on bayonettes a la German army in Belgium, 1915 perhaps)?
MASTY
06-07-2004, 05:45 AM
[QUOTE=Storm88]I would like to see Ireland united as part of a National Socialist Greater Britsh State which doesn't seem be an option on your poll. But in the meantime Britain should not surrender an inch of territory to anyone.
The white against white conflict in Northern Ireland is a boil on the backside of British nationalism. I doubt if any satisfactory outcome is possible within the present political system.
S88[/QUOTE]
As it is, Northern Ireland has a very small percentage of non-White's with-in her shore's(compared to the enforced mass islamic immigration problem-globally.....), I known some who actually say that it's because of the "White-on-White" civil conflict that Ulster does not resemble Mainland Britain, and Eire for that matter. In my opinion though, that is too high a price to pay.
A one-country-island ??! No thank's. What would happen if we were finally sold-out to Dublin, I can picture it now- and it ain't too pretty. For the most part in the last 3 and a half decade's, Ulster~Loyalist's have been a retaliatory force, thinking more along the line's of self-preservation and self-defence rather than all out attack against irish republicanism. A one country island would soon change that. Dublin would burn.
ULSTER IS BRITISH SOIL.
XIV.
Storm88
06-07-2004, 07:04 AM
[QUOTE=jozu]What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
What I mean is the status of the Northern Ireland within the UK is not negotiable.
The fact that we got into such a mess over NI is purely down to the weak-kneed attitude of successive British government who have appeased and encouraged republican terrorists and failed to tackle to problem head on. The IRA have in fact been rewarded for there 25 years of murder and mayhem. It may see bizarre that the leader of a terrorist organisation responsible for blowing children to bits is made Minister of Education.
In the foreseeable future a British government should by carrying out the following policies in NI and I would recommend any nationalist party such as the BNP to adopt this as policy:
The British government should declare unequivocally that Northern Ireland will remain part of the UK for ever.
Northern Ireland should be completely integrated in to the rest of the UK with identical laws as England and Wales (I would propose this for Scotland also).
Security forces should be given a free hand to deal with terrorism in the way they think is most effective. The death penalty introduced for murder and treason (waging war against the British people to be considered treason).
All publicly funded education should be completely secular (for the whole of the UK).
All adults should have to swear an oath of allegiance to the British nation and persons who refuse to do so, or anyone who by word or deed demonstrate that they are the enemy of Britain should by stripped of citizenship and may by removed from the country.
If necessary the border between NI and the republic sealed and movement between Eire and UK restricted.
S88
[QUOTE=Storm88]What I mean is the status of the Northern Ireland within the UK is not negotiable.
The fact that we got into such a mess over NI is purely down to the weak-kneed attitude of successive British government who have appeased and encouraged republican terrorists and failed to tackle to problem head on. The IRA have in fact been rewarded for there 25 years of murder and mayhem. It may see bizarre that the leader of a terrorist organisation responsible for blowing children to bits is made Minister of Education.
In the foreseeable future a British government should by carrying out the following policies in NI and I would recommend any nationalist party such as the BNP to adopt this as policy:
The British government should declare unequivocally that Northern Ireland will remain part of the UK for ever.
Northern Ireland should be completely integrated in to the rest of the UK with identical laws as England and Wales (I would propose this for Scotland also).
Security forces should be given a free hand to deal with terrorism in the way they think is most effective. The death penalty introduced for murder and treason (waging war against the British people to be considered treason).
All publicly funded education should be completely secular (for the whole of the UK).
All adults should have to swear an oath of allegiance to the British nation and persons who refuse to do so, or anyone who by word or deed demonstrate that they are the enemy of Britain should by stripped of citizenship and may by removed from the country.
If necessary the border between NI and the republic sealed and movement between Eire and UK restricted.
S88[/QUOTE]
So if the will of the majority of the people in the 6 counties of Northern Ireland changed, and they now wanted to re-join the rest of Ireland, you would prevent their wish... is that how I should read your post?
Who would that benefit from that?...having a country in bondage occupied by the army to ensure that the will of the people is not respected. I doubt England would receive much economic or strategic benefit from such a situation...rather the scale of the armed struggle of the IRA would become justified, and as a result would be magnified 10 times.
There would be no benefit to either Britain or Ireland from such a situation.
However, even this is trivial compared to the demographic crisis facing both our countries, Storm88, as I'm sure you would agree.
Storm88
06-07-2004, 04:41 PM
Yes I do agree that this is really sideshow and is only a bit of "local difficulty" compared to the destruction of the white race that we are facing. But it does remain a niggling thorn in the flesh of White Nationalists in UK and Eire. I think any British White Nationalist party should be giving a decisive lead on Northern Ireland and not following much of the same policies of the treacherous ZOG parties.
It is because successive British governments have not taken any of the actions that I described that the mess has dragged on so long. By holding out the hope that there aims were somehow achievable in the long term only encouraged the IRA to continue there campaign of murder.
Under a new racial nationalist order within the British Isles I would hope the divisions between white peoples of Ireland would become irrelevant. I cannot see any circumstance in the foreseeable future where Britain should or would give up sovereignty over Northern Ireland.
S88
[QUOTE=Storm88]
It is because successive British governments have not taken any of the actions that I described that the mess has dragged on so long. By holding out the hope that there aims were somehow achievable in the long term only encouraged the IRA to continue there campaign of murder.
S88[/QUOTE]
Storm, the reality is the opposite of what you state.
The IRA carried out a violent campaign for some 30 years, with nothing to show for it. The British did not back down one bit... in fact it made them all the more determined to not give in. All killing and dying achieved nothing.
It certainly wasn't for lack of trying that the IRA was never militarily destroyed. The British had some 50,000 heavily armed soldiers on the streets to police a tiny province of only one and a half million people...probably smaller than the population of Manchester (that was in addition to the actual Northern Ireland police force, the RUC). The province was turned into a fortress. The only way the IRA could ever have been destroyed would have been to ethnically cleanse the whole of the Nationalist community out of Northern Ireland (...or to repatriate the Unionist community back to Britain).
It was only when the IRA realised they could go on for another 25 years of violence, and still achieve nothing that they gave up the armed struggle. The IRA called a ceasefire 10 years ago...Only after that ceasefire came into effect was the republican community in Northern Ireland given some power, proportional to their population.
Scotland88
06-21-2004, 03:55 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]. Dublin would burn.
[/QUOTE]
Dublin has already burned from Loyalist bombings in the 1970's.
The biggest loss of life in a single day was in Dublin by UVF bombers that bombed civilians on purpose because they were Catholic!!!
And it was far worse than Omagh!!
heaven above
06-21-2004, 07:06 PM
50,000 troops in Ulster ? I don't think so mate !
I was there around the time of the Ulster workers strike in 1974. The highest number at any time was 24,000 . Also, we were not allowed to win the war against the IRA. We knew who they were,where they lived and who their family and friends were, where they were, and what they all did. WE knew the lot. But we weren't allowed to take them out !
That is why we took Ivor Bell prisoner, even though no pics existed of the man. Intelligence my friend.
Antiochus Epiphanes
06-21-2004, 07:12 PM
[QUOTE=Australianrage]The problem with the Irish question is that Ireland does not have a secular government.
If the people of Northern Ireland could be guaranteed of a secular government, they would probably not be so opposed to reunification.
The problem with Ireland is that the law of the land is used to inflict Catholic dogma upon the entire population, whether they are Catholic or not.
For example, the concraceptive pill is not legally available in Ireland. Last I heard Irish women were buying it by mail order from Britain, or taking day trips to the north to stock up on an annual supply of the pill.
What sort of loonie country makes it a crime for a woman to regulate her own fertility, so that a couple can plan a family?
When the Catholics stop being so bloody minded and determined to inflict their religion on everyone else, some progress might be made to Irish reunification.
Catholicism was not the glue that held Europe together during the Dark Ages. It was the dead hand of Rome that plunged Europe into the Dark Ages and a state of arrested development for 1,000 years.
I may be Australian, but I had an Irish paternal grandmother (a protestant) who was in Ulster in 1916. The stories she told were horrifying. I still have relatives in Ulster. They would die before they would be forced to bend the knee to the will of the Catholic Church via the instrument of government power.[/QUOTE]
What's so bad about making the Pill illegal for Whites? Shit I'd do it, or restrict it to perscription only for women with certain health issues. Nothing better to put women back in the home and having babies than this. Short of throwing off the Jews, which looks like quite a difficult task, there is little we can do to improve our situation better than ample growth of a new generation.
That being said, the IRA are not Catholics they are Marxist terrorists. I know Catholics from Ireland who consider the whole IRA a fraudulent scheme to separate gullible American Irish Catholics from their money.
Scotland88
06-22-2004, 04:34 PM
FAO MASTY
http://www.goingonvacation.net/europe/ireland.jpg
MASTY
06-22-2004, 04:40 PM
Yeah, post and run like fuck ya fuckin' spam monkey.....
What a fuckin' net nerd.
Scotland88
06-22-2004, 04:41 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]Yeah, post and run like fuck ya fuckin' spam monkey.....
What a fuckin' net nerd.[/QUOTE]
Well the votes speak for themselves :D
MASTY
06-22-2004, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Well the votes speak for themselves :D[/QUOTE]
I'm sure whatever shite it is that yer on about is very intelligent..... BLAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.
Post and run, ye wee fuckin' troll.....
MASTY
06-24-2004, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Dublin has already burned from Loyalist bombings in the 1970's.
[/QUOTE]
And that was only in one day.
That was fuck-all, spam monkey. Join those two countries to-gether and all fuckin' hell would break loose. Yer adopted country would be blighted for the next 3 decade's, if not longer- and not just Dublin, the whole of the republic. Future generation's of republican resident's would be born into conflict, just like I was- and the majority of Ulster~Loyalist citizen's.
Burn, baby burn..... :D
KEEP ULSTER WHITE, SHOOT GERRY ADAMS DEAD.
XVIII.
Scotland88
06-24-2004, 04:50 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]
Burn, baby burn..... :D
XVIII.[/QUOTE]
Again thats NIGGER TALK!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking prod troll!!!!!!!!
MASTY
06-24-2004, 04:57 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Again thats NIGGER TALK!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking prod troll!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
It's actually an ASH song, ya fuckin' illiterate sectarian wanker.
ASH being a WHITE Ulster band.....
Scotland88
06-24-2004, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]It's actually an ASH song, ya fuckin' illiterate sectarian wanker.
ASH being a WHITE Ulster band.....[/QUOTE]
So you have never heard niggers screaming 'burn baby burn'?
MASTY
06-24-2004, 05:09 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]So you have never heard niggers screaming 'burn baby burn'?[/QUOTE]
BLAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA.....
Look at yer signature.....
[SIZE=7]And the survey say's.......... yer an ass-hole![/SIZE]
Angle
06-24-2004, 05:51 PM
Why would a Scotsman want a united Ireland? Are you a Celtic supporter?
It would be interesting to know how many actual Irish or Northern Irish and British voted on this thread, seen as how it is they who are actually affected by the decision.
MASTY
06-24-2004, 06:07 PM
[QUOTE=Angle]Why would a Scotsman want a united Ireland? Are you a Celtic supporter?
It would be interesting to know how many actual Irish or Northern Irish and British voted on this thread, seen as how it is they who are actually affected by the decision.[/QUOTE]
That's a fair question. It's a scarey thought, but I can picture yer-man scratching his itchy head- in a baffled state.....
I'm Northern Irish, born and bred- anyone else.....
Scotland88 need not apply :D .
Skeletal Kobold
06-25-2004, 01:46 PM
I'm Irish and I voted yes though I don't actually care much what happens. I believe its for the people of the North to decide what happens, although if Ireland were to be united then it would affect me. I just tend to be a bit pissed off with the endless arseology of "Ulster will remain British forever" and so forth, antagonism is boring.
Scotland88
06-27-2004, 07:12 AM
[QUOTE=Angle]Why would a Scotsman want a united Ireland? Are you a Celtic supporter?
[/QUOTE]
Not Celtic supporter at all.
Show me were I have said I personally wanted a United Ireland?
All I did was to ask other people what they thought, I gave no opinion of my own just wanted to see what everyone else's was.
Angle
06-27-2004, 11:19 AM
Why so hostile against the loyalists then?
Scotland88
06-27-2004, 11:27 AM
[QUOTE=Angle]Why so hostile against the loyalists then?[/QUOTE]
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=5628
Read above thread!
The simple fact is that most WN that are loyalists try to merge the two, and they are totally incompatable.
Most WN loyalists love Hitler/Fascism/National Socialism but hate Catholics, but the fact is that Hitler was a Catholic and Fascism/National Socialism was invented and Organised by Catholics!!! There has NEVER been a WN leader in a country that has been a Protestant!!
Makes you confused eh? :confused:
Parts of Glasgow are just like Belfast you know.
And I was speaking to a Loyalist WN about a year ago and he said 'I am surprised that loyalists don't sort out the ethnics'. Again, trying to merge the two together. Most of these morons just out Catholics off WN!!
And for the record I do NOT support either Celtic or Rangers
WHITEMAN 88
06-28-2004, 05:19 PM
[QUOTE=Scotland88]http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=5628
Read above thread!
The simple fact is that most WN that are loyalists try to merge the two, and they are totally incompatable.
Most WN loyalists love Hitler/Fascism/National Socialism but hate Catholics, but the fact is that Hitler was a Catholic and Fascism/National Socialism was invented and Organised by Catholics!!! There has NEVER been a WN leader in a country that has been a Protestant!!
Makes you confused eh? :confused:
Parts of Glasgow are just like Belfast you know.
And I was speaking to a Loyalist WN about a year ago and he said 'I am surprised that loyalists don't sort out the ethnics'. Again, trying to merge the two together. Most of these morons just out Catholics off WN!!
And for the record I do NOT support either Celtic or Rangers[/QUOTE]
Ireland has a right to determine its own future. And that means expelling all jew influence- that includes Britain. Cromwells invasion was funded with jew money, in return he seized and stole Irish land to pay them back.
Cromwell and later William of Orange (who sold England to the jews) brought the jews into Ireland, the orange order are freemasions.ZOG you can keep your Zog Royal family, you usury, and your multi-culturalism.
How can any white nationalist support this bullshit.
ZOG OUT OF IRELAND. LOYALTY ? LOYALTY TO WHAT ?
IRELAND UNITED AND FREE.
Angle
06-28-2004, 07:38 PM
"Expel Britons" - from where? British-created Ulster? Ireland's bog-country, Ulster's industrialized and for 400 years of its history has in no way resembled Ireland proper. It's the kind of retarded shit that would have the Welsh calling for the expulsion of Scots and English from Britain. Henry II wasn't funded by Jew money. Plantations didn't begin with Cromwell - the Catholic 'Bloody Mary' I of England settled English, as did Elizabeth I, and the Scottish James I. All of these reigned well before Cromwell's importation of Jews.
The Irish complain about being defeated by the "perfidious Saxons," conveniently overlooking their own weaknesses; weaknesses not evident in the Scots - who were never conquered fully by the English.
At best Ulster should be its own country, neither tied to "Zog" Britain, nor artificially "united" with the Republic, as Noraid-funding blase fucks with green-tinted specs livin' it up in the kwa far, far from the realities of Ulster would have it.
WHITEMAN 88
06-28-2004, 08:13 PM
[QUOTE=Angle]"Expel Britons" - from where? British-created Ulster? Ireland's bog-country, Ulster's industrialized and for 400 years of its history has in no way resembled Ireland proper. It's the kind of retarded shit that would have the Welsh calling for the expulsion of Scots and English from Britain. Henry II wasn't funded by Jew money. Plantations didn't begin with Cromwell - the Catholic 'Bloody Mary' I of England settled English, as did Elizabeth I, and the Scottish James I. All of these reigned well before Cromwell's importation of Jews.
The Irish complain about being defeated by the "perfidious Saxons," conveniently overlooking their own weaknesses; weaknesses not evident in the Scots - who were never conquered fully by the English.
At best Ulster should be its own country, neither tied to "Zog" Britain, nor artificially "united" with the Republic, as Noraid-funding blase fucks with green-tinted specs livin' it up in the kwa far, far from the realities of Ulster would have it.[/QUOTE]
So you are now defending jewish imposed culture in NI, brought there by jews who came with the Brits.ie- the Orange Order Freemasions and usury.
Freemasions founded NI, It has a star of David in the centre of its flag, yet you support it. It is a historical fact, if Germany had invaded Ireland, Ireland would have have been united. We refulled the U- boats in the war and lit up the targets for German bombers, what did Loyalists do ? As usual sided with ZOG. Orange order freemasions what have been toast, if Germany had been invited to invade. Develera, was the only world leader to send a wreath upon Hitlers death, yet all Brit nationalists do is slag him off. Ireland was also the last EC country to recognise Israel (Britain the first).
Yes, up to recently Ireland was an idylic backward little country. With no jews owning everything, porn illegal, large white families,hanging, no immigrants, pure women and no drugs,abortion illegal, no jew owned supermarkets. And what was arsehole British nationalists opinion on this ? According to Tyndell that Ireland was backward and the tanks should be sent in. Why are Brit nationalists so mixed up ?
Henry II was surrounded by court jews, fact. It is a historic fact that Cromwell let the jews back into England. Yet I suppose like most Brit nationalists you support him as well ? Cromwell seized Irish land on mass to pay back the jews. The Irish were forced to the barren West Of Ireland.
Large chunks of Ireland were also given to Brit aristicracy court jews.In the 1920s the old IRA took back most of the land from them.
Any WN is welcome in Ireland, but not those who support jews, like many loyalist do. Yes, they will one day be driven out. If they want to be British, they can go and live in Britain.
Angle
06-29-2004, 01:46 PM
Bloody Mary = Catholic, Protestant-murdering English queen. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
Elizabeth I = Anglican-enforcing English queen. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
James I = Scottish, Catholic king. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
Jewish-imposed culture? It certainly didn't require Jews for the English to conquer Wales time and time again, and to attack Scotland (and for Scotland to attack England.)
De Valera is slagged off because he's the quintessential American meddler-romanticist. If he were a one-off, then fine - but he wasn't. Ulster has been overwhelmingly (70%-plus) British for five hundred years. Belfast, Londonderry, Bangor, Armagh, etc were British/Scottish creations.
[quote=WHITEMAN 88]they will one day be driven out. If they want to be British, they can go and live in Britain.[/quote]
boohoo. If the Ulster Catholics want to be Irish, they can go and live in the Republic.
Clamouring for a fake reunion of two foreign countries which happen to share the same land-mass is fool's stuff. Expecting the Ulster British to up and out in the province they created is like Mexicans expecting Californian Anglos to get the fuck out of the 6th richest state in the world because 'dey owned it.'
Scotland88
06-29-2004, 02:44 PM
[QUOTE=Angle]
Ulster has been overwhelmingly (70%-plus) British for five hundred years.
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Check your facst mate and look at the cencus for Ulster and you will find it is currently only 55% Protestant and the Protestants will be a minority within he next 10 years.
Angle
06-29-2004, 02:52 PM
[quote=Scotland88]Check your facst mate and look at the cencus for Ulster and you will find it is currently only 55% Protestant and the Protestants will be a minority within he next 10 years.[/quote]
As recently as the 70s I would've been right. Hair splitting about less than thirty years means shit to the wast wealth of facts standing before your little three-wheeler robin reliant, which you employ to buzz around WNs like a pissy lil' gadfly. Take it off the rally track, son, it just wasn't built for this kind of endurance.
Scotland88
06-29-2004, 02:59 PM
[QUOTE=Angle]As recently as the 70s I would've been right. Hair splitting about less than thirty years means shit to the wast wealth of facts standing before your little three-wheeler robin reliant, which you employ to buzz around WNs like a pissy lil' gadfly. Take it off the rally track, son, it just wasn't built for this kind of endurance.[/QUOTE]
At least there are plenty of White Kids being born in Ulster
The Catholics in Ulster have one of the highest birth rates for Whites anywhere, thats tough for the Protestants; Maybe we could start a baby boom war between them? That would be greta for the White Race :D
In 1969 there was 1 million Prostants to 100,000 Catholics, now there are nearly 1.9 million Whites in Ulster.
I have even heard idiot WN saying the 'taigs' breed like rabbits!! Well I think its good that Whites are having kids :D
MASTY
06-29-2004, 03:01 PM
[QUOTE=WHITEMAN 88]So you are now defending jewish imposed culture in NI, brought there by jews who came with the Brits.ie- the Orange Order Freemasions and usury.
Freemasions founded NI, It has a star of David in the centre of its flag, yet you support it.
[/QUOTE]
Yer having a fuckin' laugh, aren't ye??! Care to explain the FACT that Youghal- a wee town in County Cork elected a Jew as their Lord Mayor in 1555, no doubt planted there by Ulster~Loyalist's..... as for the Northern Ireland flag, I'm sure that if ye post lie's some idiotic cunt will believe it- eh Wankstain88..... it's common knowledge that the star incorporated in the Northern Ireland flag represent's the 6 counties of Northern Ireland.
"Should Ireland be united"? Sure why not..... :D . Only if yer prepared to reap the consequence's. What goes around come's around, may-be it's the republic of ireland's turn for 3 decade's of conflict.....
ULSTER: Eternally~White. Eternally~British.
XIV.
Scotland88
06-29-2004, 04:06 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]Yer having a fuckin' laugh, aren't ye??! Care to explain the FACT that Youghal- a wee town in County Cork elected a Jew as their Lord Mayor in 1555, .[/QUOTE]
Nothing like using recent events to win an argument eh PASTY
Stupid tit
WHITEMAN 88
06-29-2004, 04:21 PM
[QUOTE=Angle]Bloody Mary = Catholic, Protestant-murdering English queen. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
Elizabeth I = Anglican-enforcing English queen. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
James I = Scottish, Catholic king. Planted Ireland. Zero Jewish influence.
Jewish-imposed culture? It certainly didn't require Jews for the English to conquer Wales time and time again, and to attack Scotland (and for Scotland to attack England.)
De Valera is slagged off because he's the quintessential American meddler-romanticist. If he were a one-off, then fine - but he wasn't. Ulster has been overwhelmingly (70%-plus) British for five hundred years. Belfast, Londonderry, Bangor, Armagh, etc were British/Scottish creations.
boohoo. If the Ulster Catholics want to be Irish, they can go and live in the Republic.
Clamouring for a fake reunion of two foreign countries which happen to share the same land-mass is fool's stuff. Expecting the Ulster British to up and out in the province they created is like Mexicans expecting Californian Anglos to get the fuck out of the 6th richest state in the world because 'dey owned it.'[/QUOTE]
Heres a history lesson for you about your own countries history and the jew, which also impacts on Ireland. The jews came to England with the Norman invasion of 1066, it was the court jews who organised the Doomsday book to tax the people. Those that resisted had their crops destroyed, land seized, 300,000 in England died of famine.
In the 12th century most jews were expelled, but aristocratic landed jews remained. Henry IIs invasion of Ireland never got beyond Dublin.
The Irish plantations started around 1580, under Henry VIII. By 1609 Elizabeth I had established plantations in many parts of Ireland.
In 1650, land owned by the Irish chiefs was seized to pay back the jews who funded Cromwells campaigns- FACT.
By 1703, only 5% of land was owned by Catholic Irish.
Cromwell brought jews with him to Ireland, they established freemasonry lodges in Dublin.
William of Orange brought usury to both England and Ireland, bankers from Amsterdam were allowed to operate usury, which had previously been illegal.
By 1795, the orange freemasonry order was established to keep down Irish Catholics.
The Loyalists see themselves as the 'chosen people' thats why they have affinity for Israel. They see the Catholics as the pagan Cananites.
To this day they see themslves as living in an enclave- like Israeli settlers.
The British brought jewish power and influence to Ireland,in the form of banking (he who controls a nations finance, controls the nation) thats why the Loyalist sides with the jew, to this day.
Masty, a six-pointed star is known as a Star of David.
MASTY
06-29-2004, 04:50 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Nothing like using recent events to win an argument eh PASTY
Stupid tit[/QUOTE]
1555 or 1955. It's a fact that the republic elected a jew as early as that.
Yer skinny lip's seem to flap a lot, yet ye don't seem to say a lot. Any-thing remotely resembling any sort of relevence that is.....
Wankstain.
The Israeli star of david is 2 tri-angle's made into 1 star.
The 6 pointed star on the Northern Ireland flag is there to represent the 6 counties of Northern Ireland. If the truth doesn't suit y'all, ye make shit-up. Hey, we're used to republicunt lie's now ye-know.....
Scotland88
06-30-2004, 06:41 AM
[QUOTE=MASTY]1555 or 1955. It's a fact that the republic elected a jew as early as that.
Yer skinny lip's seem to flap a lot, yet ye don't seem to say a lot. Any-thing remotely resembling any sort of relevence that is.....
Wankstain.
The Israeli star of david is 2 tri-angle's made into 1 star.
The 6 pointed star on the Northern Ireland flag is there to represent the 6 counties of Northern Ireland. If the truth doesn't suit y'all, ye make shit-up. Hey, we're used to republicunt lie's now ye-know.....[/QUOTE]
So look at all the JEWS in Lab/Con!!!!!!!!!
All you do is go on about something 400 years ago?
You lose
MASTY
06-30-2004, 06:51 AM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]So look at all the JEWS in Lab/Con!!!!!!!!!
All you do is go on about something 400 years ago?
You lose[/QUOTE]
So Spew Labour and the Tories stand for election in Ulster do they??!
Incorrect, Wankstain- I'm thoroughly entrenched in the 2nd Millenia.
I lose what exactly, infantile.....
WHITEMAN 88
06-30-2004, 06:58 AM
I'm fed up with you defending the jews Masty.
Scotland88
06-30-2004, 07:03 AM
[QUOTE=WHITEMAN 88]I'm fed up with you defending the jews Masty.[/QUOTE]
Well Said!!!
MASTY is jew loving tosser :D
He loves Ulster so much that he lives in England? :confused:
Deportation in order!!
No one from Ulster is a true Brit anyway!!!!!!!!!!!
MASTY
06-30-2004, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Well Said!!!
MASTY is jew loving tosser :D
He loves Ulster so much that he lives in England? :confused:
Deportation in order!!
No one from Ulster is a true Brit anyway!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Don't kid yer-self, Wankstain- even yer 'close-friend' cringe's every time ye post.....
Understand this, I ain't ever met a Jew- yer the one in the B.N.P.
I'll live where I choose with-in the U.K.
Deport me where, from the U.K. to the U.K.....
Ulster resident's are born into British Patriotism. Unlike people like you.
Scotland88
06-30-2004, 01:17 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]Don't kid yer-self, Wankstain- even yer 'close-friend' cringe's every time ye post.....
Understand this, I ain't ever met a Jew- yer the one in the B.N.P.
I'll live where I choose with-in the U.K.
Deport me where, from the U.K. to the U.K.....
Ulster resident's are born into British Patriotism. Unlike people like you.[/QUOTE]
Ulster people are the dregs of the UK everyone knows that
WHITEMAN 88
06-30-2004, 03:03 PM
What is intresting is that the first Irish Republican revolutionaries were protestant, protestants in the past were United Irishmen- Wolf Tone,Emmet,Sarsfield,Gratton, etc.
It was the jew invented orange order that made them turn against there fellow countrymen, it religiously divided them. Today presbytarians in the North deny their Gaelic heritage. They have gone from Republicanism to Loyalism.
When NI was created in 1921, Freemasonry was given a special place in the North, by the Freemasions including Churchill and Carson who framed its constitution.
It creates total division.To the Loyalist Orangeman the world is run by a Catholic conspiracy, he is raised to fear his Catholic countryman.
That is how the Freemason/zionist divides Ireland.
MASTY
06-30-2004, 03:03 PM
Yer skinny lip's keep flappin', but I can't hear any-thing of consequence, Wankstain.
Scotland88
06-30-2004, 03:07 PM
[QUOTE=MASTY]Yer skinny lip's keep flappin', but I can't hear any-thing of consequence, Wankstain.[/QUOTE]
Have you finished the building work then Masty?
http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/5302/blobus.jpg
WHITEMAN 88
06-30-2004, 03:14 PM
[QUOTE=WHITEMAN 88]What is intresting is that the first Irish Republican revolutionaries were protestant, protestants in the past were United Irishmen- Wolf Tone,Emmet,Sarsfield,Gratton, etc.
It was the jew invented orange order that made them turn against there fellow countrymen, it religiously divided them. Today presbytarians in the North deny their Gaelic heritage. They have gone from Republicanism to Loyalism.
When NI was created in 1921, Freemasonry was given a special place in the North, by the Freemasions including Churchill and Carson who framed its constitution.
It creates total division.To the Loyalist Orangeman the world is run by a Catholic conspiracy, he is raised to fear his Catholic countryman.
That is how the Freemason/zionist divides Ireland.[/QUOTE]
Masty, I would prefer a comment on what I have written instead of silly name calling, it gets a bit boring.
MASTY
06-30-2004, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=Wankstain88]Have you finished the building work then Masty?
http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/5302/blobus.jpg[/QUOTE]
First ye post picture's of yer SISTER and I do believe you've posted this picture of yer DA before too, I assume he look's just like ye, Wankstain.....
Is yer family the village EEJIT'S up there, fuckin' illiterate juvenile.
MASTY
06-30-2004, 04:24 PM
[QUOTE=WHITEMAN 88]Masty, I would prefer a comment on what I have written instead of silly name calling, it gets a bit boring.[/QUOTE]
Religion has uninterested me more and more over the year's, to be born into, and live through the Ulster conflict does that to a person. Tone was a Protestant, big fuckin' deal. Hitler was a Catholic, so fuckin' what..... elaborate.
If you wish to talk about religious division, point yer crooked finger at the Vatican.
The Vatican has a lot to answer for, especially in the distant past. To suggest that Ulster~Loyalist's are raised to "FEAR" Ulster Catholic's is quite simply untrue.
Very enlightening that yer-self and yer favourite right-hand-job-man are the one's who accuse me of hating Catholic's, yet I have NEVER said any such thing, you pair of wanker's continually bring religion into it. Explain.....
WHITEMAN 88
06-30-2004, 07:38 PM
[QUOTE=WHITEMAN 88]What is intresting is that the first Irish Republican revolutionaries were protestant, protestants in the past were United Irishmen- Wolf Tone,Emmet,Sarsfield,Gratton, etc.
It was the jew invented orange order that made them turn against there fellow countrymen, it religiously divided them. Today presbytarians in the North deny their Gaelic heritage. They have gone from Republicanism to Loyalism.
When NI was created in 1921, Freemasonry was given a special place in the North, by the Freemasions including Churchill and Carson who framed its constitution.
It creates total division.To the Loyalist Orangeman the world is run by a Catholic conspiracy, he is raised to fear his Catholic countryman.
That is how the Freemason/zionist divides Ireland.[/QUOTE]
Read this again Masty it was Orange Freemasons that divided Ireland not Catholics,Catholics including the Church support unity, read it until it sinks in.
The Orange order which you support is a religious anti-Catholic, pro-Zionist society, in the past they have been known as the British Israelites.
Yet, you and many other British WNs support them !!!!!!!!!!!!
norcalnative1971.
09-06-2004, 05:33 AM
The brits should get the fuck out of ireland and leave fellow aryans alone!
the irish had the highest birth rate of any whites in the world until the brits invaded and started starving fellow whites
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