Celebrities and white nationalism
By: Sean(Doc)Martin
I am new to this board but not new to White Nationalism (WN). An interesting observation I made earlier was that with my first 3 posts one of them was about a wrestler losing his job with a news company due to giving a Nazi Salute, while the other two focused on the Plight of the Aryan woman and problems with our local communities. I have gotten around 10 times the responses and views with the one about a wrestler millionaire losing a couple thousand a year than the other two combined.

It has occurred to me that people are more concerned when a celebrity does something than they are when their neighborhood goes to pot. This comes from a Jewish indoctrination that celebrities are important people for some reason. When Mel Gibson came under attack for making the movie about Jesus, WN was so concerned for Mel and forgot about his love of Africans (look no further than Lethal weapon for confirmation). While somewhere in America some white girl was getting molested by an African and a Jew was making a porno flick, the White web sites was flooded with concern for poor Mel. Well my hat is off to him for what he did, but come on, this really doesn’t rate a blip on the radar compared to what the Jews are doing to Whites everywhere. Not to mentioned Mel backed out on several of the lines that should have been in the movie to be more Kosher friendly. Is there anyone that thinks Mel gives a whit about the plight of the white man?

Just as in the case of Bradshaw and Triple H (who jumped on the Iron Cross bandwagon) and also Mel Gibson there is not a one of them that is going to offend their Jewish masters and lose their sports car and mansion.

As long as people are more concerned with African loving Celebrity Jewish servants that wouldn’t give any of us the time of day, than they are about what is going on in their back yard the movement will never even attempt to get off the ground.

The Jews have indoctrinated us to worship anybody on television. Now with the invention of DSS television even the most remote white community is not beyond their reach.

I am not complaining and do appreciate the comments made and everyone that views my posts (whether you like me or not). I also do not want to question anybodies motives or love of the white race, (even I myself after being a WN since I was 14 find myself cleaning my mind of Jewish ideologies) my point is to point the weaknesses that plague the WN movement and if we are to be taken seriously we need to fix these problems ASAP. Through of Jewvision the Jews have poisoned the minds and actions of even the best of Aryans. We must fight these ideologies if we expect to overcome.

The reason I may seem like a complainer from time to time is because I love the white race so much and have so much passion for the WN movement that I want to see it succeed so dearly that I do get carried away from time to time. I have conquered many obstacles and have many more to conquer before my race (no pun intended) is finished. If I don’t speak on these things who will?

But even though (and I do sincerely hope I am wrong) it seems like there are 10 times the amount of whites concerned with celebrities than there is concerned with the African molesting your sister and the Mexican taking your job.

Maybe we are just so accustomed to seeing Africans molest our women among other things that people just don’t care anymore.

If I am anywhere correct on this assumption it is going to be a long dismal road before we can go white.

This is one time I would like to hear I am in error.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Celebrities and white nationalism
By: Sean(Doc)Martin
I am new to this board but not new to White Nationalism (WN). An interesting observation I made earlier was that with my first 3 posts one of them was about a wrestler losing his job with a news company due to giving a Nazi Salute, while the other two focused on the Plight of the Aryan woman and problems with our local communities. I have gotten around 10 times the responses and views with the one about a wrestler millionaire losing a couple thousand a year than the other two combined.

It has occurred to me that people are more concerned when a celebrity does something than they are when their neighborhood goes to pot. This comes from a Jewish indoctrination that celebrities are important people for some reason.[/QUOTE]
This is actually typical primate behavior: to be concerned with relatively superficial celebrity and relatively unconcerned about much more important major trends that affect our whole tribe. The only reason most of us don't take human behavior to be as comical as chimpanzee behavior is that our reasons for engaging in it seem "serious" to us, whereas chimp reasons don't.

But most primate species have a politically elite core composed of most of the females and at most half of the males. The male part of this elite are those considered to be prime specimens by the females: guys with access to resources which the females want to snack on, or else tough guys who can appropriate such resources from their previous owners.

In the periphery, beyond the pale, outside the core group, are the social losers, including a minority of women (put there as often by their own foolishness or recklessness as by any inborn defectiveness) and the other half of the men. Obviously, the men in the periphery aren't going to get an equal share of nookie, so they look for other ways (besides superficial behavior aimed at impressing the girls) to spend their intelligence. So what do they do? They invent culture. Socially rejected men have created nearly all the culture in existence.

The social elite, really, is the parasite on the outcasts. The women thereof rejected us, with the chosen males enforcing that rejection, and then they turn around and enjoy the use of what our rechanneled intelligence has made possible. We gave them lights at night to make them safer from predators. What thanks did we get? None. We gave them ways to travel far, allowing them to speak with distant friends and relatives who otherwise they'd never have seen again. What thanks did we get? None. We made their lives more comfortable in a thousand ways. Still, we have no thanks. In fact, the mediocre jocks in the social elite made mendacious claims upon the outcasts' inventiveness, alleging that they, and not we, provided these things to society.

What we outcasts are trying to do now is save our tribe's racial core from destruction by cunning predators. But this time, the women (and, thus, the men) in that core group aren't listening to us because the predators have more money than we do, and they can put on a bigger show of material goodies than we can. And the damnedest thing about that is that their money came by devious routes (primarily bank loan interest and other frauds) from the work that our race - the predator's intended victims - itself in the past did.

Maybe if we see the situation in naturalistic terms, we can think of a way to unravel the knot of this thorny situation. We are, in effect, competing with our present intellectual utility against a part of the wealth created by our ancestors, hijacked a bit at a time over the years by the predator Jew.

Jerry Abbott

By god, Mr. Ego, you have my vote! Are you running for king or emperor?
No matter, as Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV, heir to the Merovingian throne, you will serve admirably as either or both.
Vive le Roi!


All athletes and all sports fans who watch baseball, basketball, hockey etc.. are mere plebeian peasants in the face fo the royal anti-christs such as Napoleon and I.


As royal Heir to the throne of Merovingian dynasty in the coming golden age I will make sure that only natural athletes who play in the Olympic games of the traditional occident have a chance to create an "immortal body of light".


--Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV

[QUOTE=Jenab]This is actually typical primate behavior: to be concerned with relatively superficial celebrity and relatively unconcerned about much more important major trends that affect our whole tribe. The only reason most of us don't take human behavior to be as comical as chimpanzee behavior is that our reasons for engaging in it seem "serious" to us, whereas chimp reasons don't.

But most primate species have a politically elite core composed of most of the females and at most half of the males. The male part of this elite are those considered to be prime specimens by the females: guys with access to resources which the females want to snack on, or else tough guys who can appropriate such resources from their previous owners.

In the periphery, beyond the pale, outside the core group, are the social losers, including a minority of women (put there as often by their own foolishness or recklessness as by any inborn defectiveness) and the other half of the men. Obviously, the men in the periphery aren't going to get an equal share of nookie, so they look for other ways (besides superficial behavior aimed at impressing the girls) to spend their intelligence. So what do they do? They invent culture. Socially rejected men have created nearly all the culture in existence.

The social elite, really, is the parasite on the outcasts. The women thereof rejected us, with the chosen males enforcing that rejection, and then they turn around and enjoy the use of what our rechanneled intelligence has made possible. We gave them lights at night to make them safer from predators. What thanks did we get? None. We gave them ways to travel far, allowing them to speak with distant friends and relatives who otherwise they'd never have seen again. What thanks did we get? None. We made their lives more comfortable in a thousand ways. Still, we have no thanks. In fact, the mediocre jocks in the social elite made mendacious claims upon the outcasts' inventiveness, alleging that they, and not we, provided these things to society.

What we outcasts are trying to do now is save our tribe's racial core from destruction by cunning predators. But this time, the women (and, thus, the men) in that core group aren't listening to us because the predators have more money than we do, and they can put on a bigger show of material goodies than we can. And the damnedest thing about that is that their money came by devious routes (primarily bank loan interest and other frauds) from the work that our race - the predator's intended victims - itself in the past did.

Maybe if we see the situation in naturalistic terms, we can think of a way to unravel the knot of this thorny situation. We are, in effect, competing with our present intellectual utility against a part of the wealth created by our ancestors, hijacked a bit at a time over the years by the predator Jew.

Jerry Abbott[/QUOTE]



"Regarding the degenerated forms of asceticism, I would like to point out the spirit of a phenomenon that is more properly connected to the plane of "work" (that is, of the fourth caste). The modern world knows a sublimated version of work in which the latter becomes "desinterested", disjoined from the economic factor and from the idea of a practical or productive goal an takes an almost ascetic form; I am talking about sport. Sport is a way of working in which the productive objective no longer matters; thus, sport is willed for its own sake as mere activity. Someone has rightly pointed out that sport is the "blue collar" religion (11). Sport is a typical counterfeit of action in the traditional sense of the word. A pointless activity, it is nevertheless still characterized by the same triviality of work and belongs to the same physical and lightless group of activities that are pursued at the various crossroads in which plebeian contamination occurs. Although through the practice of sport it is possible to achieve a temporary evocation of deep forces, what this amounts to is the enjoyment of sensations and a sense of vertigo and at most, the excitement derived from directing one's energies and winning a competition-without any higher and transfiguring reference, any sense of "sacrifice" or deindividualizing offering being present. Physical individuality is cherished and strengthened by sport; thus the chain is confirmed and every residue of subtler sensibility is suffocated. The human being, instead of growing into an organic being, tends to be reduced to a bundle of reflexes, an almost to a mechanism. It is also very significant that the lower strata of society are the ones that show more enthusiasm for sports, displaying their enthusiasm in great collective forms. Sport may be identified as one of the forewarning signs of that type of society represented by Chigalev in Dostoyevsky's The Obsessed; after the required time has elapsed for a methodical and reasoned education aimed at extirpating the evil represented by the "I" and by free will, and no longer realizing they are slaves, all the Chigalevs will return to experience the innocence and the happiness of a new Eden. This "Eden" differs from the biblical one only because work will be the dominating universal law. Work as sport and sport as work in a world that has lost the sense of historical cycles, as well as the sense of true personality, would probably be the best way to implement such a messianic idea. Thus, it is not a coincidence that in several societies, whether spontaneously or thanks to the state, great sports organizations have arisen as the appendices of various classes of workers, and vice versa."

--Julius Evola

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All athletes and all sports fans who watch baseball, basketball, hockey etc.. are mere plebeian peasants in the face fo the royal anti-christs such as Napoleon and I.

As royal Heir to the throne of Merovingian dynasty in the coming golden age-- I will make sure that only natural athletes who play in the Olympic games of the traditional occident have a chance to create an "immortal body of light".


--Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV

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[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]I am new to this board but not new to White Nationalism (WN). An interesting observation I made earlier was that with my first 3 posts one of them was about a wrestler losing his job with a news company due to giving a Nazi Salute, while the other two focused on the Plight of the Aryan woman and problems with our local communities. I have gotten around 10 times the responses and views with the one about a wrestler millionaire losing a couple thousand a year than the other two combined. [/QUOTE]

That is because we have commented on the plight of Aryan women many, many times already, here and irl. So a new topic will get more response, of course.

It has occurred to me that people are more concerned when a celebrity does something than they are when their neighborhood goes to pot.

Ordinary people are many, but celebrities are few, so it seems like we give the celebrities more attention when you divide your attention between the two groups. In fact, I think you give the people around you a whole lot more attention.

And we fawn on celebs because we appreciate success and want to be close to it; that is a natural behavior created by evolution, not by Jews. Women fawn on celebrities more, like the women crying at rock concerts, because they have always been in a weaker position and therefore have more need to attach themselves the strong and successful. This is also why they dream about their wedding day more than men do; the day they will finally secure their protection for the rest of life.

As for Mel Gibson, we didn't forget his contribution to anti-White movies. And we didn't think The Passion was the magnum opus of White art. But we recognized it for what it was, and gave Gibson recognition for being one of few in Hollywood who take Whites' history and religion seriously, instead of doing a hatchet job of it. And the whole story was also a good example of how Jews operate when they attack someone, so it deserved attention. Plus that it was a way more original story than the countless stories about Whites attacked by darklings -- again, it's not that we don't care about those things, but when something new comes up it will get more attention than that which we have already given attention many times over.

[QUOTE=MOMUS]By god, Mr. Ego, you have my vote! Are you running for king or emperor?
No matter, as Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV, heir to the Merovingian throne, you will serve admirably as either or both.
Vive le Roi![/QUOTE]

Roman Emperor Elect and King of Germany. There is no voting. The plebeians must not have a say that is the whole point of being "heir" to the throne.

We should concern ourselves with creating an inner elite claque that will give strength to the outer phalanx -- for surely there are others out there of the same bloodlines who will try similar manuevars. Especially several lines through Sigisbert.

I will either be appointed without resistance or we will have to seize power. That is why I have started to plan an invasion of Lorraine and concomitant seizure (caesar) of power at the European Union at Strasbourg.

I am fully capable of functioning in the role of Emperor, King, and military general and political strategist all at once. I can thank the latter to the Alsace-Lorraine line (like that of Albert Schweitzer) and the former to the elite political administration skills of the Normans.

However, it would greatly please me to have several political advisors in the role of Richelieu to ease my burden at times. The people who function in this role must be go through the interrogation and investigation of my inner claque to make sure they are not aligned with a hidden Sigisbert line of potential Kings.

Also, of course we will need several elitely breed generals from Alsace Lorraine in the vein of Schweitzer, Desaix, and Klébe.

I will elect Generals from the Alsace-Lorraine region as the elite warrior caste of my emerging Empire.

The intellectual caste will form out the Churches dialectical institutions and those who function as political advisors in the role of Richelieu.


-- Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV



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nice comments by jerry and nice quote from evola, thanks ego

fact is sean, there is a long uphill road ahead of us. gird your loins for hard work and long hours and thin rewards. that's all there is too it. victory is a long way off.

but be ready cuz things could turn on a dime. for that to happen however, remember the words of pasteur: chance favors the prepared mind.

How foolish of me to suggest that I might vote on such a matter.
But who will crown you, the Pope? I say let him try and then crown yourself, as Napolean did.
How may we WNs be of assistance to the Emperial cause, then?
Please explain further how your emperial aspirations coincide with WN goals. I grasp the large picture but you can best sketch in the felicitous details for the unenlightened and unwashed among the forum, Nordblod and such.

[QUOTE=Et_En_Arcadia_Ego]Roman Emperor Elect and King of Germany. There is no voting. The plebeians must not have a say that is the whole point of being "heir" to the throne.

We should concern ourselves with creating an inner elite claque that will give strength to the outer phalanx -- for surely there are others out there of the same bloodlines who will try similar manuevars. Especially several lines through Sigisbert.

I will either be appointed without resistance or we will have to cease power. That is why I have started to plan an invasion of Lorraine and concomitant ceasar of power at the European Union at Strasbourg.

I am fully capable of functioning in the role of Emperor, King, military general and political strategist all at once. I can thank the latter to the Alsace-Lorraine line (like that of Albert Schweitzer) and the former to the elite political administration skills of the Normans.

However, it would greatly please me to have several political advisors in the role of Richelieu to ease my burden at times. The people who function in this role must be go through the interrogation and investigation of my inner claque to make sure they are not aligned with a hidden Sigisbert line of potential Kings.

Also, of course we will need several elitely breed generals from Alsace Lorraine in the vein of Schweitzer, Desaix, and Klébe.

I will elect Generals from the Alsace-Lorraine region as the elite warrior caste of my emerging Empire.


-- Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV



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Zip it, Poindexter.

About the Evola quote: could not the same line of reasoning just as easily be applied to the peskily ubiquitous "sex for pleasure"-phenomenon?

Emperor Dagobert, may I call you Dauphin? After all, the coronation hasn't yet taken place.
I urge you to avoid Swedish intrigues and beware their treacherous embassies. Please consider the Swede, Nordblod, a possible Sigismundian interloper until he proves his true colors.

[QUOTE=Nordblod]Zip it, Poindexter.

About the Evola quote: could not the same line of reasoning just as easily be applied to the peskily ubiquitous "sex for pleasure"-phenomenon?[/QUOTE]

You're having the time of your life right now, aren't you?

Having some fun, getting some enlightenment; got a problem, Sigisbert?

[QUOTE=Nordblod]You're having the time of your life right now, aren't you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MOMUS]How foolish of me to suggest that I might vote on such a matter. But who will crown you, the Pope? I say let him try and then crown yourself, as Napolean did. How may we WNs be of assistance to the Emperial cause, then? Please explain further how your emperial aspirations coincide with WN goals. I grasp the large picture but you can best sketch in the felicitous details for the unenlightened and unwashed among the forum, Nordblod and such.[/QUOTE]

Concerning white Nationalists: I will make no more than two or three promises to these sorts. From Srasbourg I will anounce several changes to European law through my state apparatus: ab urbe condita ad locum Lothrignen a cruce salus ad hoc: opus dei. Post hoc acte es fabula.




King of France (602-638). In order to emulate the religious zeal of the rulers of the Byzantine and West-Gothic empires, who were persecuting the Jews,Dagobert decreed, about 629, that the Jews who were not converted to Christianity by a certain date should either leave his dominions or be put to death.




In1814, Norway acquired its first constitution. This document was relatively liberal, but in §2 it stated that the official state religion was Lutheran Protestantism and that Jews and Jesuits were forbidden from entering the kingdom. The lobbying to change this paragraph was led by the national poet, Henrik Wergeland. In 1851 the ban was indeed reversed, six years after the Wergeland's death.


I will reinforce both precedents through the EU. From there the remaining Anglo Saxon self governing lands of Eastern England, Frisia and the nordic land of Sweden may follow Norway's suit. The latter precedent will be ammended and reintregrated back into the Norwegian constitution-- first, however, before it trickles down into other neighboring systems.

Under our Frankish rule the Saxons will have to surrender a great deal of political power in exchange for these favors. Ethnically the traditional lands of Scandinavia, Eastern England, and Frisia will not change. However, they may try whine and squeal a bit "percieving" such a thing possible through their delusions. I find it a fair political tradeoff. Handing over power to the governing Franks so that I may forthrightly vertically expulse the Jews.

The traditional autonomous Saxon and nordic lands will be free to practise various doctrines of Lutheran Protestantism. Of their choosing without fear of persecution from the Holy Roman Empire and Austrasia.

I might be a bit tempted to act vaingloriously as Napoleon did at the coronation crowning if it where not for several mitigating extraneous factors of the complexities of modern warfare and other complications. Not to mention I am ethnically much closer to the Frank Clovis (bloodline of christ) and not at all like Napoleon physically. In spirit well that is another matter altogether.

Complying with the crowning without acting in a childish manor as did Napoleon would allow me to strengthen my outer core phalanx with less complication. The Swiss guard plethora will expand the aggregated phalanx immediately and exponentially.

This will free my political core and myself to attend to more pressing matters of the state.


-- Hugo Dagobert De Burgh IV




http://www.danbrown.com/images/angels/gallery/swissguard.jpg

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[QUOTE=MOMUS]Emperor Dagobert, may I call you Dauphin? After all, the coronation hasn't yet taken place.
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Dauphineous Aureolus Theodoric Von Burgh

Haha ! Just kidding ...

No, you can't call me Dauphin either.


How may we WNs be of assistance to the Emperial cause, then?

A simple but good start would to be to wait at least a couple(as in two) of minutes before quoting me. I noticed several pun slips several minutes after i.e using "Caesar" in place of "seizure". My unconcious is sending semi abstract pun messages Itz !

You did this several times before as well. The early bird doesn't always get the worm.



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[QUOTE=Nordblod]Zip it, Poindexter.

About the Evola quote: could not the same line of reasoning just as easily be applied to the peskily ubiquitous "sex for pleasure"-phenomenon?[/QUOTE]

Actually, Julius Evola studied various Eastern religions which include sex tantra magic i.e the Metaphysics of Sex. Arthur Schopenhauer proposed that sex can be used as a key to Noumenon.

I'm not necessarily promoting either view just stating the facts of the matter. However, I realize you didn't ask anything about Schopenhauer so that was kind of extraneous.

Not totally extraneous however because I planned on saying :

One must also be carefull with sex for pleasure because of the Frankfurt conspiracy. So in this context Schopenhauer is now appropriate.


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[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]The masses are useless... [/QUOTE]


"Nothing is more revolting than the majority; for it consists of few vigorous predecessors, of knaves who accommodate themselves, of weak people who assimilate themselves, and the mass that toddles after them without knowing in the least what it wants." -- Von Goethe

"Everything great and intelligent is in the minority." --Von Goethe

"No one in this world, so far as I know- and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me- has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby."
- H.L. Mencken

"It is common to assume that human progress affects everyone- that even the dullest man, in these bright days, knows more than any man of, say, the Eighteenth Century, and is far more civilized. This assumption is quite erroneous...The great masses of men, even in this inspired republic, are precisely where the mob was at the dawn of history. They are ignorant, they are dishonest, they are cowardly, they are ignoble. They know little if anything that is worth knowing, and there is not the slightest sign of a natural desire among them to increase their knowledge."
- H.L. Mencken

"Every step in human progress, from the first feeble stirrings in the abyss of time, has been opposed by the great majority of men. Every valuable thing that has been added to the store of man's possessions has been derided by them when it was new, and destroyed by them when they had the power. They have fought every new truth ever heard of, and they have killed every truth-seeker who got into their hands."
- H.L. Mencken

"We must think of human progress, not as of something going on in the race in general, but as something going on in a small minority, perpetually beleaguered in a few walled towns. Now and then the horde of barbarians outside breaks through, and we have an armed effort to halt the process. That is, we have a Reformation, a French Revolution, a war for democracy, a Great Awakening. The minority is decimated and driven to cover. But a few survive- and a few are enough to carry on."
- H.L. Mencken

"The human race is divided into two sharply differentiated and mutually antagonistic classes, almost two genera- a small minority that plays with ideas and is capable of taking them in, and a vast majority that finds them painful, and is thus arrayed against them, and against all who have traffic with them. The intellectual heritage of the race belongs to the minority, and to the minority only. The majority has no more to do with it than it has to do with ecclesiastic politics on Mars. In so far as that heritage is apprehended, it is viewed with enmity. But in the main it is not apprehended at all."
- H.L. Mencken

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Brain-damaged satanists who support Israel are none too savory.

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]The masses are useless and mel gibson is scum.[/QUOTE]

[size=5]Momus, Dr.Antichrist and Old White Goat.[/size]


http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/images/vcvg20.jpg

That seemed uncalled for.

Now yer just being mean, Dagobert, is that any way for a future King of France to act?
Which one is me?
[QUOTE=Et_En_Arcadia_Ego][size=5]Momus, Dr.Antichrist and Old White Goat.[/size]


http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/bobhope/images/vcvg20.jpg[/QUOTE]

Momus, Dr.Antichrist and Old White Goat are Jews? I hope not. Because all three stooges were.

Whodathunkit? Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Momus, Dr.Antichrist and Old White Goat are Jews? I hope not. Because all three stooges were.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MOMUS]Whodathunkit? Nyuk nyuk nyuk.[/QUOTE]

Now why did that cause me to laugh I thought I was more refined than that.