[Temporary sticky thread -- maybe 30 days?]

I want to create a combination webpage/essay about hate-crime laws and holocaust-denial laws in the West. Yes, there are a few lists of such laws on the web. But those lists are often incomplete where it really matters. I would like to know specifically:

1) who introduced and/or sponsored those laws in the parliaments/congresses/assemblies of various White countries?

2) who wrote those laws?

3) was that person [or persons] Jewish? [If not Jewish, then Marxist?]

4) what was the bill number/legislation number? Date of submission/passage?

5) what role did Jewish groups play in the creation/passage of those laws?


Anyone having good information about this matter, please post it below.

Also, please limit posts to only exact information about those laws.

Thanks.


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Later this evening I will try to get back to you with the info you need. It will take me a little bit of time to search my computer for the most useful URL's.

I have a lot of material printed up on that very subject that I keep in my truck to give to people when I talk about WN.

When you get the page finished though I want the URL to it so I can pass it around to others. I am glad to see others engaging in this type of work also.

Hate Crime Legislation
Pro-white sites
http://www.kkk.bz/weekly16.htm
http://www.kkk.bz/international_news_affecting_whi.htm
http://www.davidduke.com/hatecrimes/hatecrimelaw.shtml
http://www.davidduke.com/hatecrimes/hatecrimelawsexplained.shtml
http://www.davidduke.com/hatecrimes/hatecrimeactionplan.shtml
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/specials/lobby-congress.shtml
http://www.davidduke.com/colorcrime/index.html
http://www.davidduke.com/fbi-stats/index.html
http://www.ety.com/HRP/race/racestats.htm

Pro ZOG sites but still useful especially the first 4

http://www.reed.edu/~gronkep/webofpolitics/fall2001/yagern/law.html
http://www.arkbar.com/Ark_Lawyer_Mag/Spring%202001/Hate_Crime_mpryor.htm
http://www.austinreview.com/articles/24.html
http://www.hatecrime.net/
http://www.twinlakes.k12.in.us/info/library/connection/controH.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/publications/infores/responding/files/appendixD.pdf
http://college.library.wisc.edu/resources/subject_guides/hatecrime.htm
http://www.apa.org/pubinfo/hate/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3264
http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/crimjust/hate.htm
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/law/download/HateRep.pdf
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hatespeech.html
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/5/272004c.asp
http://eaglesnesthome.com/violence.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm
http://www.alanstang.com/hitler.htm

Here are a few more sites that shoud prove useful.

http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=5958
trace the emergence of an anti-hate-crime movement in the 1980s, and how those involved
invented and promoted the concept of hate-motivated violence ...

http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs0101d.html
the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, which invented the concept of
"hate crime" and took the lead in promoting it among law-enforcement people ...


http://www.stormfront.org/0899/hate_speech.htm
The Jews invented it, and they are the self ...

As far as I can tell Hate Crimes began with two organizations namely the ADL and the southern poverty law center, both Jewish run organizations. I didn’t find very much info on the ACLU which I am sure had a lot to do with HCL.

I hope this helps if it is not enough information I will see what else I have.

check the IHR website. Faurisson was imprisoned in France twice. Irving's website talks about this at length.

if youre going to focus on holocaust denial laws I would stay away from the topic of hate crime enhancements, that is a different subject. in parts of europe holocaust denial is a crime in itself and is charged under "incitement to racial hatred." I think that's the name of the charge in france. Gassyot law or something.

Germany doesnt need a law to ban speech, they never did! LOL

Spain used to be free from this but now it's fucked too.

England and Denmark appear to be outside the ambit of holocaust denial being a crime. again, check irving's site for that info

Thanks, sean(doc)martin. I will look through those...


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1. Germany

There is no specific "Holocaust Denial" law in Germany. The German courts have prosecuted revisionists under Sections 185, 189 and 194 of the Criminal Code, which prohibits the defamation and denigration of the character of deceased persons. In addition, German courts have used Section 130 of the Criminal Code, which makes incitement (Volksverhetzung) a punishable offense, to prosecute revisionists.

In a ruling issued in April 1994, the Federal Constitutional Court confirmed that Holocaust revisionism is not protected speech. "In weighing the importance of free speech against that of individual rights, courts must consider on the one hand the severity of the offense caused by Holocaust denial to the Jewish population in light of the suffering inflicted upon it by Germany. On the other hand, the opinion expressed is not particularly deserving of protection," the constitutional court judges wrote, "stemming as it does from a claim of fact that has been proven untrue. This court has consistently protected the personal honor of those defamed above the right of others to make patently false statements."

http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/archives/background/speech.html

Here are the current members of the German Federal Constitutional Court that issued the above opinion.

http://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/cgi-bin/link.pl?aktuell

2. Switzerland

Switzerland punishes revisionists under its "anti-racism" law, which was adopted by a public referendum in 1994. In effect since January 1, 1995, Switzerland's Anti-Racism Law reads as follows:

"Whoever publicly incites hatred or discrimination against a person or a group of persons on the basis of their race, ethnicity or religion,

or whoever publicly promotes an ideology that systematically disparages or slanders members of a race, ethnic group or religion,

or whoever organizes, supports or participates in a propaganda action with this same goal,

or whoever publicly through word, writing, illustration, gesture, act of violence, or in any other way disparages or discriminates against a person or a group of persons on the basis of their race, ethnicity or religion, in a way that offends their human dignity or, for any one of these reasons, denies, flagrantly whitewashes [gröblich verharmlost] or seeks to justify, genocide or other crimes against humanity,

or whoever withholds, on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion, a service or product from a person or a group of persons that is offered to the public at large,

will be punished by [up to three years] imprisonment or a fine."

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n4p13_Weber.html

"After the "anti-racism" law was adopted by both chambers of parliament, a referendum campaign was launched by an ad hoc group, "Action for Free Speech". None of the five leaders of this grass roots group was prominent or nationally known. Although the three right-wing parties represented in the lower house of parliament had opposed the "anti-racism" law, they initially decided not to support the referendum effort because of the hostile media campaign that started immediately after the launching of this initiative. Along with the leaders of the referendum committee, all those who were even suspected of supporting this drive were indiscriminately denounced in the media as "racists" and "anti-Semites." Almost daily the populace was warned that no decent person would even think of supporting such creatures.

. . . During the weeks leading up to the referendum balloting on September 25, 1994, Switzerland experienced the nearest thing to an Orwellian hate week it had ever known, except that this "week" stretched out over several months. This intense propaganda drive, carried out by the entire print and electronic media, was so unspeakably primitive that it disgusted every thoughtful and sensitive person. As the media portrayed it, a small group of staunch anti-racists who supported this law was fighting a gallant but almost desperate struggle against a kind of Orwellian brotherhood, a vast network of pitiless racists and neo-Nazis.

. . . When three young members of mainstream parties --- a Christian Democrat, a Liberal and a Conservative --- formed a committee to oppose the "anti-racism" law on the grounds that it threatened free speech, the mass circulation newspaper Sonntagsblick published their photographs and addresses in its July 3rd edition under the headline: "These are the young lackeys of the old racists. Why don't their parties silence them?"

Rosmarie Dormann, chairwoman of the committee for the "anti-racism" law, publicly declared on August 28th, 1994, that rejecting the law would "jeopardize our democracy." In other words, those who support a law permitting dissidents to be jailed for three years are defenders of democracy, whereas those who oppose the law are endangering it. Of course, hardly a journalist dared to disagree.

In the referendum, which took place on September 25, 1994, the "anti-racism" law was approved by 54.7 percent of those who voted (more than half of those eligible to vote did not). Exactly half of Switzerland's cantons rejected it."

http://www4.stormfront.org/posterity/ns/graf.html

3. Spain

On May 11, 1995 the Spanish parliament approved a revision of the country's criminal code that made it a crime to justify genocide or to promote racial hatred.

Paragraph 2 of Article 607 of the Penal Code declares:

Whoever provokes or incites, directly or by defense or justification (mediante la apolog'a), through communication media or by any other means of publicity, discrimination against persons or groups on the basis of their racial, ethnic or national origin, or their ideology, religion or beliefs, will be punished with a minor or medium prison sentence and a fine of 100,000 to 1,000,000 pesetas.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p21_Weber.html

I had collected some of these on VNN's legal page. Lots of stuff from Europe. The ADL has a subsection where you can click on a map of the U.S. to see each state's law. Also, Hoffman has some long articles discussing prisoners in Europe, wiht references to the laws they're held under; some of that info is already incorporated on the VNN page.

What is needed is a state by state worldwide rundown so we can go from one to the next and see the coordination of our enemies. Also included should be supranational efforts, such as Europe and UN. Again, some of this is already on the VNN page.

here is the ADL state by state rundown.
http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/print.asp?&MSHiC=1252&L=10&W=hate+HATEA+HATEBASED+HATED+HATEM+CRIMEIN+HATER+HATERS+HATES+LAWSA+CRIM+crime+CRIMES+CRIMI+laws+LAWSON+&Pre=%3CFONT+STYLE%3D%22color%3A+%23000000%3B+background%2Dcolor%3A+%23FFFF00%22%3E&Post=%3C%2FFONT%3E

http://www.adl.org/Learn/hate_crimes_laws/State_Hate_Crime_1.gif

http://www.adl.org/Learn/hate_crimes_laws/State_Hate_Crime_2.gif

excellent info gentlemen. as you can see there are two different groups of "hatecrime" legislation we are interested in-- holocaust denial in europe generally falling under the ambiguous "incitement to racial hatred" or whatever, and then the whole panopoly of civil rights laws and "hate" enhancements that exist here and there in the US. IMO A good article will try to focus on one group of laws or another and not cover too much ground at once.

You should add Italy, with their imprisonment of that elderly German ex-Nazi. Whatever it was. I've heard of other cases from a relative, that wouldn't be reported beyond the orbit of the provinces they're in: for example, a 17 year old being jailed for a year after being caught spray-painting a swastika on an underpass. This supposedly happened in Calabria, so there's not much coverage even in Rome. They're just gearing up for full-blown hate speech laws, nothing wrong with anticipating their victory.

As A.L. noted, VNN has many of the laws listed:

http://www.vnnforum.com/main/laws.htm

What is needed now, I think, is info to answer the question 'who introduced/sponsored/backed those laws?' That info is harder to find.



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As A.L. noted, VNN has many of the laws listed:

http://www.vnnforum.com/main/laws.htm

What is needed now, I think, is info to answer the question 'who introduced/sponsored/backed those laws?' That info is harder to find.



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a good illustration of how to write such an article is KMD's study of the Jewish Involvement in the 1965 Immigration Reform act. Of course articles should always be tailored to the audience


somebody link this, I cant find mine

See the post "Immigration," Main Forum, today. It has URLs.



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Didn't Dr Pierce cover that in ADV?

As A.L. noted, VNN has many of the laws listed:

http://www.vnnforum.com/main/laws.htm

What is needed now, I think, is info to answer the question 'who introduced/sponsored/backed those laws?' That info is harder to find.



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The ADL brags that it writes model statues, and the states more or less adopt them in toto. I'm sure there's not much difference between state laws, and they're written/sponsored/adopted by/for the same people for the same reason as everything else on the lib agenda. You remember when militias were all the talk before ZOG dynamited OKC? The ADL was sheckying about wiht model statues against paramilitary activity. I think Glen Miller was sued under such at one point, although that even earlier.

Lethargy shouldn't be underrated. A lot of these white lawmakers aren't just venal and corruptible, they're too lazy to think, let alone write, let alone read the laws they vote on. So if some jew comes to them and makes it easy for them, by contributing to their campaign, putting something to sign in front of their well-stocked belly, a lot of them are happy to provide a WASP facade.

When people realize the size of their current problems and the issues they face today, and then see how incompetent their "leaders" are in the face of these problems, blood reckoning will surely occur.
I've heard this prophecy many times. I wish that I had more confidence that it were true, but I've come to doubt that it is.

Multiculturalism got its start only partly through deceptions and false assurances about the intent and effect of public policies, such as the Federal Reserve money system, racial integration and third-world immigration. There were enough people able to pierce ZOG's lies back then to have put a stop to it, if their William Pierces had informed their Robert Mathewses. They just didn't have enough of either, particularly not enough Robert Mathewses. The problem wasn't entirely gullibility, then: the rest was cowardice.

When it would have been possible for a small army of organized Whites, stepping up to eliminate the Jewish influence by decisive guerilla action, that action wasn't forthcoming. It was put off. The Whites didn't step up in time to save America from being hopelessly Jewified. And the cowardice that caused that failure is still with us, although today the Jews understand that they need not depend on it.

But even if an opportunity would appear, like a lightning bolt of good fortune, we wouldn't have the will to make use of it. No, we'd talk. We'd urge (somebody else) to "take action." We'd make suggestions. And everybody would stay home and congratulate himself on the suggestions that he had personally made.

That, really, is why ZOG doesn't round us up more than it does. The Jews know that WN is talk, and nothing but talk. They know that neither they nor the belligerent blacks will get their deserved lynchings. And the crooked politicians know it, too. Their machine is set up and going with great momentum, and none of us is inclined to do more than point out that wrenches tossed into machines have been known to cause damage to moving parts. No wrenches, however, appear. Once, they could have been tossed with fair impunity. Now we'll have to accept casualties.

When dealing with any crook, Jewish or not, action delayed is often action denied.

Jerry Abbott

When it would have been possible for a small army of organized Whites, stepping up to eliminate the Jewish influence by decisive guerilla action, that action wasn't forthcoming.

. . . When dealing with any crook, Jewish or not, action delayed is often action denied.

There are over 5 million declared Jews in the US and another 5-10 million part Jews. That's a lot of Jews, even for a small army. Robert Mathews and his two dozens Order buddies managed to kill a grand total of one Jew. Those who sit at the keyboard in their underwear typing the words "Guerilla action" should think for a second about David Lane, Bruce Pierce and Richard Scutari who, 20 years later, are still ZOG cages over one worthless kike, who probably would be dead by now anyway.

I don't know if this has been posted but here is a link that may help.
http://www.truthtellers.org/hatecrimes.html

I am sorry to report to the readers that this thread, so far, has not really served its purpose. I have found, so far, only about 2 anti-hate/anti-Holocaust laws in Europe as coming DIRECTLY from a certain Jew(s), by name.

In America the results are better. But I wanted a global picture, with names of sponsors/drafters of such bills/laws.

But hopefully this thread can stay 'stickied' and more info will come along.


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I am sorry to report to the readers that this thread, so far, has not really served its purpose. I have found, so far, only about 2 anti-hate/anti-Holocaust laws in Europe as coming DIRECTLY from a certain Jew(s), by name.

The difficulty is that these laws have been put into place with the approval of many sections of society - leftists, racial minorities, jews, government officials and judges looking to expand their power, the media and activist groups. While in every case you will find jews who supported the legislation and court decisions, it is often not possible to tie the law directly to the actions of a particular jew.

IN THEIR OWN WORDS:

1. Report anti-Semitic incidents to Jewish organizations such as ADL and to law enforcement.report to jewish organzations? lol gee why would someone do that

2. Urge elected officials - whether local, state or federal - and religious and cultural leaders to speak out and take action against anti-Semitism. cultural leaders? this must mean the anti-white leaders, take action such as the hate crime legislation? ADL IS ALWAYS UP TO SOMETHING

3. Inform ADL about anti-Semitic writings, Internet sites and radio or television broadcasts.so they can add them to their hate list and try to prove to the whole world that there the good guys

4. Educate children and teenagers to reject stereotypes and embrace respect for difference. in other words teach your child to hate their white heritage so they will love everyone :yuck:

5. Above all, keep in mind that anti-Semitism is not "just a Jewish issue," but rather - like any form of hatred - a threat to the values of freedom and democracy. very funny adl seems like most of the world has always hated/disliked jews any reasons why we should stop? Romans 9:13 and John 8:44 will the adl add such bible verses to their hate legislation?

the words in blue I added
There are organzations out there working against white people..Organzations such as the ADL know they will not convert the majority of us but there are providing schools across the globe with there diversity/race mixing/tolerance etc materials ACT NOW HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILD!!!

ACLU IN THEIR OWN WORDS:

The ACLU is our nation’s guardian of liberty. We work daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. Our job is to conserve America’s original civic values - the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Every person? well it would appear that way in todays world but the Constitution was written TO WHITE PEOPLE FOR WHITE PEOPLE did our White Founding Fathers leave their Nation of corruption so one day the corruption would come to America and destroy there laws

The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing principles:
that the majority of the people governs, through democratically elected representatives;
that the power even of a democratic majority must be limited, to ensure individual rights. Democratic majority? Just like Democracy? last time I checked the Constitution says we are to have a REPUBLIC form of government and Yes their is a difference

The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state. WHAT A LIE separation of church and state is not found in the constitution

Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin. If your White/Christian then surely you will not be included

Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake. LOL ask David Duke and Iam still waiting for the IRS to tell me what Code Section requires Americans to pay and file income tax returns, ask Matt Hale and many others about "Fair Treatment" as long as you bow down to the communists of Washington

Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.
We work also to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including Native Americans and other people of color; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgendered people; women; mental-health patients; prisoners; people with disabilities; and the poor. How come White Organzations arent listed here We are denied rights all the time. I myself have been kicked out of a city council meeting for standing up for freedom of speech.

If the rights of society’s most vulnerable members are denied, everybody’s rights are imperiled.

The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin, Crystal Eastman, Albert DeSilver and others in 1920. We are nonprofit and nonpartisan and have grown from a roomful of civil liberties activists to an organization of nearly 400,000 members and supporters. We handle nearly 6,000 court cases annually from our offices in almost every state. Roomful of liberals

The ACLU has maintained the position that civil liberties must be respected, even in times of national emergency. The ACLU is supported by annual dues and contributions from its members, plus grants from private foundations and individuals. We do not receive any government funding. "government funding" in real simple terms They dont receive any TAX money the Government stole from the people

The ACLU has helped a lot of White organzations I know this but think about this..How could Jewish Organzations break down our laws?
example: We have freeedom of speech, I want to have a rally but the city says no, I get the aclu involved and the aclu sues my city and the tax payers are the ones that pay, now the city raises taxes to cover that loss, everyone gets mad at me at the higher tax, IAM THE BAD GUY oh wait I have more, now my city wants to pass a law to stop me because I cost too much, The ACLU sues again for the law they passed, now the city raises taxes to cover that loss, everyone gets really mad at me at the higher tax this is an example how one jewish organzation takes one side of the laws and the other jewish organzation takes the other and in the end you end up with 2 powerful jewsih organzations with a lot of money and a bunch of laws that still violate freedom of speech this was just an example

I am sorry to report to the readers that this thread, so far, has not really served its purpose. I have found, so far, only about 2 anti-hate/anti-Holocaust laws in Europe as coming DIRECTLY from a certain Jew(s), by name.

In America the results are better. But I wanted a global picture, with names of sponsors/drafters of such bills/laws.

But hopefully this thread can stay 'stickied' and more info will come along.


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Why are blacks, women, fags and non-WASPs in politics? To do the bidding of the jews who put them there. If the sponsor was anyone of these, it came from the jews. I remember reading once on the net that Giuliano came to prominence sponsoring hate laws, that might help.

Why are blacks, women, fags and non-WASPs in politics? To do the bidding of the jews who put them there. If the sponsor was anyone of these, it came from the jews. I remember reading once on the net that Giuliano came to prominence sponsoring hate laws, that might help.

Now that I think about it, every single politician who is not working against the jews is working for them. So, your survey would only be factoids that hide the crucial info, which is who is paying them to sponsor hate laws?

On my website I have a few pictures of well known politicans speaking at the adl conferences with the adl background check it out
newporttennessee.net then click on the anti-christ watch link

I found this interesting article while searching the internet http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/3815085.stm

It talks about Northern Ireland's hate crime law and the plan to extend it to include disabeled persons. According to the article, the man who outlined the extension to the hate law is named John Spellar. Is "Spellar" a kike name? If so, then you may want to add him to your list.

Here's an article about the pursuit to expand US hate crime laws to include sexual orientation. http://www.counseling.org/Content/NavigationMenu/PUBLICPOLICY/HOTTOPICSLEGISLATIVEPRIORITIES/BATTLECONTINUESFORFEDERALHATECRIMESLEGISLATION/HATE_CRIME_LEGISLATE.htm

The article mentions, prominently, that Representitives John Conyers (D-MI) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) are major sponsors of the bill. They sound like jews to me. They also say that senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) was the bill's chief sponsor. Also, lets not forget that current VP running mate John Edwards is also one of the cosponsors of that bill and even confesses it prominently on his campaign website.

The article mentions, prominently, that Representitives John Conyers (D-MI) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) are major sponsors of the bill. They sound like jews to me.

Conyers is a nig. Ros-Lehitan is a spic. You'll find that the Jews can't pass any hate laws outside Israel without lots of help.

Here is a link about Hate crimes in Europe that may or may not help.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticl<br />e/ShowFull&cid=1090294696522&p=1006688055060