what is your ideal bedding soil content for a garden in the midwest. plenty of rainfall, the soil has lots of clay as it is. formerly an area with lawn on it.

I have some store bought soil on hand as well as plenty of horse manure.

vermiculite, peat, compost? what do you say gardeners? what and what propertion?

I guess I need to elevate the bed for this garden. my buddy did his with 2x6s. then if I dig down some, and build that up, I'll have maybe a foot of stuff to work with..?

what is your ideal bedding soil content for a garden in the midwest..... what do you say gardeners? what and what propertion?
My bed has often been soiled by notoriously illicit tadpole type immitators

I already killed the grass seven feet deep, oh well.

I've been breaking up the sod and its a bitch. Kievsky told me to get this broadfork thing and I can see that I should have cuz I been using a spade and it's a major pain in the ass. but I'm going to work at it.

Seven feet deep????!!! Did you use a herbicide?

Kievsky is right. Get a spading fork. .....
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The only grass found 7 feet deep turns out to be some Jew's toupee. AE discovered a burial site where a victim of Hebe-icide was found. Spading forks are pitchforks renamed through their service on Spades

yep, I did. I'm going to work on it this weekend.

nah, the rows are 7 feet deep like wide, that is what I meant! Kee-riste!

My mistake. Phew! I thought you turned into a grave-digger.

Get a fork.


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I was hoping he would do both

My bed has often been soiled by notoriously illicit tadpole type immitators

I hope that mulching practice it hasnt soiled your eyesight too. :D

I hope that mulching practice it hasnt soiled your eyesight too. :D
I need glasses for reading, but these practices and abscence of them have influenced my writing

Sawdust (from your local woodyard/ carpenter/coffinmaker) is good stuff for conditioning soil - after a year or so of breaking down.

Avoid resinous hardwoods, but all softwood varieties make a big difference to soil condition and if you leave it on top to 'weather' it smothers weeds too.

:cool:

I was at a used bookstore today and saw a used college book on the subject of Soil ect. It was only $4.00 and was around 400 pages, with color illustrations. I bought around 40 books and put about that many more back. I have purchased 70 books this week so I couldn’t get it, perhaps later. I did take 4 years of Agricultural science so I am in no hurry.

The point is check your local college or used, even goodwill book store. Wherever sells used books you may find some college books on the subject they will be better than anything else you can read and one book even if bought new is a sound investment that will provide you with enough information to do you a lifetime.

I was at a used bookstore today and saw a used college book on the subject of Soil ect. It was only $4.00 and was around 400 pages, with color illustrations. I bought around 40 books and put about that many more back. I have purchased 70 books this week so I couldn’t get it, perhaps later. I did take 4 years of Agricultural science so I am in no hurry.


The point is check your local college or used, even goodwill book store. Wherever sells used books you may find some college books on the subject they will be better than anything else you can read and one book even if bought new is a sound investment that will provide you with enough information to do you a lifetime.

Used books are also good for conditioning soil.
Remember to put then through a shredder first to compost them well with other organic materials.

Used books are also good for conditioning soil.
Remember to put then through a shredder first to compost them well with other organic materials.
Used newspapers are cheaper and eaiser to shred. My local White owned Newspaper has literally a ton a month in thier dumpster all wrapped up in 100 pound bundles.

I don't know if I would put something like the Jew York times on my garden though.

Used newspapers are cheaper and eaiser to shred.

I don't know if I would put something like the Jew York times on my garden though.

Printing Inks from the decaying papers can be a bit dodgy and can be a source of organic 'nasties' and heavy metals. I clay soils that tend to be wet/waterlogged, buried paper can last for years unless it is shredded and finely divided.

JJT was right regarding sawdust being a better soil conditioner?.

Printing Inks from the decaying papers can be a bit dodgy and can be a source of organic 'nasties' and heavy metals. I clay soils that tend to be wet/waterlogged, buried paper can last for years unless it is shredded and finely divided.

JJT was right regarding sawdust being a better soil conditioner?.

In your "special" relationship, is Jew Tree the Top or the Bottom? :eek:

JJT was right regarding sawdust being a better soil conditioner?.
Sawdust is terrible as I have used it and gotten horrible results. If you accidentally get treated saw dust in your mix you will destroy everything it comes in contact with, so this negates the possibility of using free saw dust from your local lumber yard or hardware store.

News papers in moderation is a good thing I have never personally used them as I have a chipper shredder and literally truckloads of mulch every year, but I know people that do use them and get great results.