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Ze'ev
December 2nd, 2007, 11:11 PM
full book in .pdf format
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf
easily printable I imagine...if you are interested.
Enjoy, it will give you another reason to hate jews.
Great read no matter which side you are on tho, I actually read the entire thing in one sitting.
Ze'ev
December 5th, 2007, 04:29 PM
so no comments on this? Anybody check it out yet?
Think it is true or is it just more jew propoganda
EireannGoddess
December 7th, 2007, 08:02 PM
so no comments on this? Anybody check it out yet?
Think it is true or is it just more jew propoganda
I am not in the mood to download to my machine 1.22 MB of whatever you are offering. Good Lord, you pretend to be dumber than the dirt you stand on. Post some excerpt, jew, maybe then you will get the attention you crave.
Alexei Losonov
December 7th, 2007, 08:07 PM
I scanned it; it's clean.
INTRODUCTION TO THE NEW EDITION
What has come to be known as the “Kastner Affair” was one of the most
painful chapters in the history of the state of Israel. The American fascina-
tion with the recent O.J. Simpson trials pales in comparison to the degree to
which the Israeli public and government were preoccupied with the progress
of this nine-month trial in 1954–55. In the wake of the verdict of the trial,
the Israeli government fell.
For the conspiracy-minded, the Kastner Affair has everything. The trial
results were appealed, but before the appeal could be heard, Kastner was mur-
dered. Some blamed right-wing fanatics and others believed that Israeli in-
telligence had Kastner killed for fear of what he might reveal about contacts
between the Nazis and the Israeli government during the time of the Holo-
caust.
Despite the sensational nature of the Kastner Affair, it is little known
today. It’s painful revelations, many feel, are best forgotten. A definitive
history of the episode has yet to be written.1 Here are the basic facts:
In a pamphlet published in August 1952, Malchiel Greenwald, an Israeli
citizen who had come to Palestine from Hungary in 1938, accused Rudolf
Kastner, at the time the press spokesman for the Ministry of Commerce and
Industry in Israel, of testifying on behalf of SS Lieutenant General Kurt
Becher and thus saving him from punishment for his war crimes. Greenwald
further accused Kastner of collaborating with the Nazis and contributing to
the death of over 400,000 Hungarian Jews during WWII when Kastner served
as a major leader of the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee in Hungary.
Kastner was an intimate of high Labor government officials, and the gov-
ernment had to decide whether to defend Kastner or fire him. In 1953,
the Government of Israel brought charges against Malchiel Greenwald for
slandering Rudolph Kastner. The trial lasted from January until the end of
September, 1954. After deliberating another nine months, Judge Benjamin
Halevi found Greenwald innocent, explicitly accusing Kastner of collaboration
and aiding in the defense of Nazi General Kurt Becher:
psychologicalshock
December 7th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I am not in the mood to download to my machine 1.22 MB of whatever you are offering. Good Lord, you pretend to be dumber than the dirt you stand on. Post some excerpt, jew, maybe then you will get the attention you crave.
"“I have waited a long time to expose this careerist whom I consider,
because of his collaboration with the Nazis, an indirect murderer of my dear
people.”
Tamir smiles. The style is a bit abrupt even to an ex-Irgunist.
“Who,” Pamphlet 51 continues, “is this spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry; who is this big shot leader of Mapai; who is this boaster
of great achievements in the rescue of Hungarian Jews; who is this fellow
who has been put high on the list of candidates for Israel’s parliament by the
government party, Mapai?
“This character is Dr. Rudolph Kastner, political adventurer, driven on
by a sickly megalomania.”
Tamir becomes interested. He remembers the 800,000 Jews of Hungary
shipped off in sealed trains to be gassed and burned by the Germans in
Auschwitz, drowned in the Danube, and shot to death in Budapest.
Tamir reads on:
“For whom, on whose account, Dr. Kastner, did you go like a thief in
the night to Nuremberg to become a witness for the defense of S.S. Colonel
38
Kurt Becher, the murderer of Jews, the man who wallowed in the blood
of our brothers in Hungary? Kurt Becher—Economic Administrator of the
Gestapo!
“Why did you save him from the death penalty which he had so richly
deserved?”
“You flew to Nuremberg to save a mass murderer of the Jews. What
induced you to do that?”
“What kind of gentleman’s agreement was there between this murderer
Becher and this man whom I accuse as a collaborator with the Nazis?”
Malchiel Greenwald watches proudly as Tamir turns to the last page and
reads:
“And it is this same Kastner that Mapai has taken to its bosom and
placed high on its list of officials.
“My God! Kastner’s deeds in Budapest cost us the lives of hundreds of
thousands of Jews!
“We demand an impartial public committee of investigation.
“Kastner must be removed from the politics and from the society of this
land.
“We shall keep this on our agenda until the evil is ended.”25
Selah. Malchiel Greenwald has spoke.
Tamir sits staring at the smeared type. There is no misreading its accu-
sation, and its objective. In Israel there is only one crime that merits the
death penalty—collaboration with the Nazis during their extermination of
Europe’s Jews.
Dr. Rudolph Kastner, head of the Jewish Agency Rescue Comittee in
Hungary, and now an Israeli big shot, editor of the nation’s popular Hungar-
ian newspaper—a Nazi collaborator!"
I already knew of this, but oh well.
EireannGoddess
December 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM
"“I have waited a long time to expose this careerist whom I consider,
because of his collaboration with the Nazis, an indirect murderer of my dear
people.”
Tamir smiles. The style is a bit abrupt even to an ex-Irgunist.
“Who,” Pamphlet 51 continues, “is this spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry; who is this big shot leader of Mapai; who is this boaster
of great achievements in the rescue of Hungarian Jews; who is this fellow
who has been put high on the list of candidates for Israel’s parliament by the
government party, Mapai?
“This character is Dr. Rudolph Kastner, political adventurer, driven on
by a sickly megalomania.”
Tamir becomes interested. He remembers the 800,000 Jews of Hungary
shipped off in sealed trains to be gassed and burned by the Germans in
Auschwitz, drowned in the Danube, and shot to death in Budapest.
Tamir reads on:
“For whom, on whose account, Dr. Kastner, did you go like a thief in
the night to Nuremberg to become a witness for the defense of S.S. Colonel
38
Kurt Becher, the murderer of Jews, the man who wallowed in the blood
of our brothers in Hungary? Kurt Becher—Economic Administrator of the
Gestapo!
“Why did you save him from the death penalty which he had so richly
deserved?”
“You flew to Nuremberg to save a mass murderer of the Jews. What
induced you to do that?”
“What kind of gentleman’s agreement was there between this murderer
Becher and this man whom I accuse as a collaborator with the Nazis?”
Malchiel Greenwald watches proudly as Tamir turns to the last page and
reads:
“And it is this same Kastner that Mapai has taken to its bosom and
placed high on its list of officials.
“My God! Kastner’s deeds in Budapest cost us the lives of hundreds of
thousands of Jews!
“We demand an impartial public committee of investigation.
“Kastner must be removed from the politics and from the society of this
land.
“We shall keep this on our agenda until the evil is ended.”25
Selah. Malchiel Greenwald has spoke.
Tamir sits staring at the smeared type. There is no misreading its accu-
sation, and its objective. In Israel there is only one crime that merits the
death penalty—collaboration with the Nazis during their extermination of
Europe’s Jews.
Dr. Rudolph Kastner, head of the Jewish Agency Rescue Comittee in
Hungary, and now an Israeli big shot, editor of the nation’s popular Hungar-
ian newspaper—a Nazi collaborator!"
I already knew of this, but oh well.
As did I already know of this - But, Danke for posting the excerpts to both yourself PS as well as Alexei Losonov
The jew is too busy observing his Friday Shabbos and well, it is Hanukah so I suppose he is rather tied up with all the jew carrying on this time of year - to have followed through with his anti-zionism "discourse" with us .
I have noted that many anti-zionist juden enjoy using that word "Perfidy" - especially their orthodox - it seems to have some special meaning to them that lends to it an interpretation different from our own.
Here are some interesting quotes, since the rebbe would like further stoke the fire of our disdain for his tribe; what he calls "hate". So, as to distance himself from his fellow jew and, even claim, he is now "White", even Aryan - claiming Germany to be his birthright -
though the "rebbe" also claims to be White by virtue of being "4th Generation American" - whatever that's supposed to mean.
But, this "rebbe" posting here as Ze'ev Rosenzweig - for all his anti-zionist posturing does bring to mind Kastner himself:
To Quote:
When the Jews were deported from Hungary, Rudolf Kastner, the vice-president of the Zionist organization, negotiated with Eichmann on the following basis : if Eichmann allowed the departure to Palestine of 1,684 "useful" Jews who would help in the construction of the future state of Israel (capitalists, technicians, soldiers, etc...) Kastner would allow Eichmann to make 460,000 Hungarian believe that they were not being deported to Auchwitz but simply being transferred.
At the time of the Eichmann trial, Judge Halevi recalled that Kastner had intervened on behalf of one of his Nazi interlocutors : one of Himmler's men Standarten feurher Kurt Becher, escaped punishment thanks to Kastner's testimony at the Nuremberg Trial.
The Judge was formal :" his action on behalf of Becher was made in the name of the Jewish Agency and the World Jewish Congress...It is clear that Kastner's recommendation was not made on a personal basis but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the World Jewish Congress...and this is why Becher was released by the Allies." After the verdict, Israeli opinion was shaken. In the newspaper "Haaretz", Dr. Moshe Keren wrote on July 14th 1955 :
"Kastner must be tried for collaboration with the Nazis..." But the evening paper "Yediot Aharonot" (23rd June,1955) clearly explained why this was impossible.
"If Kastner is tried, the entire government might collapse before the nation, following what this trial will uncover."
What would be discovered was that Kastner had not acted alone but with the agreement of the other Zionist leaders who were members of the government at the time of the trial.
The only way to prevent Kastner from talking and causing a scandal was for him to disappear. And indeed, he died at just the right moment, after which the Israeli Government introduced an appeal to rehabilitate him. The Supreme Court granted the appeal.
Source : Bar Zohar. "Ben Gourion, le Prophète armé" (Fayard. Paris 1966. p.99)
O, the "perfidy" rebbe!
btw, jew,. have you yet figured out why Churchill was both pro zionism AND anti-zionism?
It's a humourous riddle.
Ze'ev
December 8th, 2007, 08:20 PM
As did I already know of this - But, Danke for posting the excerpts to both yourself PS as well as Alexei Losonov
The jew is too busy observing his Friday Shabbos and well, it is Hanukah so I suppose he is rather tied up with all the jew carrying on this time of year - to have followed through with his anti-zionism "discourse" with us .
I have noted that many anti-zionist juden enjoy using that word "Perfidy" - especially their orthodox - it seems to have some special meaning to them that lends to it an interpretation different from our own.
Here are some interesting quotes, since the rebbe would like further stoke the fire of our disdain for his tribe; what he calls "hate". So, as to distance himself from his fellow jew and, even claim, he is now "White", even Aryan - claiming Germany to be his birthright -
though the "rebbe" also claims to be White by virtue of being "4th Generation American" - whatever that's supposed to mean.
But, this "rebbe" posting here as Ze'ev Rosenzweig - for all his anti-zionist posturing does bring to mind Kastner himself:
To Quote:
When the Jews were deported from Hungary, Rudolf Kastner, the vice-president of the Zionist organization, negotiated with Eichmann on the following basis : if Eichmann allowed the departure to Palestine of 1,684 "useful" Jews who would help in the construction of the future state of Israel (capitalists, technicians, soldiers, etc...) Kastner would allow Eichmann to make 460,000 Hungarian believe that they were not being deported to Auchwitz but simply being transferred.
At the time of the Eichmann trial, Judge Halevi recalled that Kastner had intervened on behalf of one of his Nazi interlocutors : one of Himmler's men Standarten feurher Kurt Becher, escaped punishment thanks to Kastner's testimony at the Nuremberg Trial.
The Judge was formal :" his action on behalf of Becher was made in the name of the Jewish Agency and the World Jewish Congress...It is clear that Kastner's recommendation was not made on a personal basis but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the World Jewish Congress...and this is why Becher was released by the Allies." After the verdict, Israeli opinion was shaken. In the newspaper "Haaretz", Dr. Moshe Keren wrote on July 14th 1955 :
"Kastner must be tried for collaboration with the Nazis..." But the evening paper "Yediot Aharonot" (23rd June,1955) clearly explained why this was impossible.
"If Kastner is tried, the entire government might collapse before the nation, following what this trial will uncover."
What would be discovered was that Kastner had not acted alone but with the agreement of the other Zionist leaders who were members of the government at the time of the trial.
The only way to prevent Kastner from talking and causing a scandal was for him to disappear. And indeed, he died at just the right moment, after which the Israeli Government introduced an appeal to rehabilitate him. The Supreme Court granted the appeal.
Source : Bar Zohar. "Ben Gourion, le Prophète armé" (Fayard. Paris 1966. p.99)
O, the "perfidy" rebbe!
btw, jew,. have you yet figured out why Churchill was both pro zionism AND anti-zionism?
It's a humourous riddle.
I make no claims, nor do I argue with you.
I pointed out that I have german blood in me, as well as jewish blood.
or is it khazar blood?
Do we even know?
-No I dont know nwhy churchill was both...already said as much.
You are welcome to enlighten me tho, as I am curious.
I really just thought this was a great book, well written and historically...relevant.
Not only are the jews betrayed by the nations they live in time and again...but even by their own people.
Myles
December 11th, 2007, 12:37 PM
full book in .pdf format
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/perfidy.pdf
easily printable I imagine...if you are interested.
Enjoy, it will give you another reason to hate jews.
Great read no matter which side you are on tho, I actually read the entire thing in one sitting.A book authored by a Jew titled Perfidy? Is it an instruction manual?
Myles
December 11th, 2007, 12:42 PM
Not only are the jews betrayed by the nations they live in time and again..."The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."
--Polish Proverb
EireannGoddess
December 11th, 2007, 01:50 PM
[quote=Ze'ev Rosenzweig;681215]I make no claims, nor do I argue with you.
I pointed out that I have german blood in me, as well as jewish blood.
or is it khazar blood?
Do we even know?
Yes, _We_ know: You are a jew. Period. Your ancestress managed to taint Aryan Blood, that is all. You, the later product of this, are a mishlinge, if you need proper placement.
I really just thought this was a great book, well written and historically...relevant.
You mean the Book "perfidy" I presume. How is it "historically....relevant"? Give us a summary.
Have you read Churchill's writings? Something tells me that you have. So, why not review some of this as well?
Not only are the jews betrayed by the nations they live in time and again...but even by their own people
Betrayed by Our Nations? Do not speak to me of betrayal.
juden do not belong in our Nations, so there can be no betrayal; unless you are speaking to the way in which your tribe decline loyalty and respect to any given Nation they infest and would, instead, install their own notions as to how our Nations are to be run - which, in the end leads to all sort of sociological as well economic and not to mention political ruination of the Folk of these Nations. You know full well why juden have been expelled from every place they have ever tried to inhabit.
Animosity toward jews is on the rise in these Nations again. As, I mentioned before - the ADL, in fact every jew org are very upset by this naturally occuring "phenomena" (that's what juden have called it). They convene their Congresses (the ADL) to discuss this, in their magasines they announce concern that their old ally, America and her citizens, are moving away from supporting israel; which is in turn; rightly so, is perceived as refusal to support American jewry.
To my mind, the lowest form of creature is the one whom betrays his race; but that juden do this regularly, of course, comes as no surprise to me, 'rebbe' -
Ze'ev
December 11th, 2007, 11:38 PM
[quote]
Yes, _We_ know: You are a jew. Period. Your ancestress managed to taint Aryan Blood, that is all. You, the later product of this, are a mishlinge, if you need proper placement.
You mean the Book "perfidy" I presume. How is it "historically....relevant"? Give us a summary.
Have you read Churchill's writings? Something tells me that you have. So, why not review some of this as well?
Betrayed by Our Nations? Do not speak to me of betrayal.
juden do not belong in our Nations, so there can be no betrayal; unless you are speaking to the way in which your tribe decline loyalty and respect to any given Nation they infest and would, instead, install their own notions as to how our Nations are to be run - which, in the end leads to all sort of sociological as well economic and not to mention political ruination of the Folk of these Nations. You know full well why juden have been expelled from every place they have ever tried to inhabit.
Animosity toward jews is on the rise in these Nations again. As, I mentioned before - the ADL, in fact every jew org are very upset by this naturally occuring "phenomena" (that's what juden have called it). They convene their Congresses (the ADL) to discuss this, in their magasines they announce concern that their old ally, America and her citizens, are moving away from supporting israel; which is in turn; rightly so, is perceived as refusal to support American jewry.
To my mind, the lowest form of creature is the one whom betrays his race; but that juden do this regularly, of course, comes as no surprise to me, 'rebbe' -
I dont really want to argue with you.
You have your opinions and I can respect that.
I know animosity towards the jews is on the rise in many countries.
It always has been throughout history tho, and is not a new phenomenon.
However...I am here for intelligent discussion, and since all you seem to want to do is insult me, and repeatedly ask me the same questions over and over...which I have already told you I do not have an answer (no I have read nothing by churchil) I will just ignore your posts from here on out.
Unless as I invited you to do, you would care to enlighten me further...
Peace be with you.
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