Does this help the WHITE RACE, DOES IT....?

I'm by no means a christian supporter, but WTF. Here we go again, lets bash the damn christians.

There's always someone starting shit. It's either Bill White or someone else starting shit, or someone starting shit about religion.. Give it a fucking rest. This is about the OUR RACE.

The ONLY WAY WE WILL SUCCEED IS by following this rule.

FAMILY AND RACE End of Story....

Take the religion issue and shove it up your asses....

My avvie and sig is the furthest I'll bash the christians. I just believe they are misled, but generally good.

Does this help the WHITE RACE, DOES IT....?

I'm by no means a christian supporter, but WTF. Here we go again, lets bash the damn christians.

There's always someone starting shit. It's either Bill White or someone else starting shit, or someone starting shit about religion.. Give it a fucking rest. This is about the OUR RACE.

The ONLY WAY WE WILL SUCCEED IS by following this rule.

FAMILY AND RACE End of Story....

Take the religion issue and shove it up your asses....

I see so you have no problems with so-called Aryan racialists bowing down before a psychotic Aryan-hating jewish desert tribal god that espouses a slave religion to emasculate us?:rolleyes:
Fuck the jews and fuck anyone who takes it in the arse from their cunt of a god!

I see so you have no problems with so-called Aryan racialists bowing down before a psychotic Aryan-hating jewish desert tribal god that espouses a slave religion to emasculate us?:rolleyes:
Fuck the jews and fuck anyone who takes it in the arse from their cunt of a god!


That's not what I'm saying and you fucking know it....

who cares about bashing them.. if they get their feelings hurt-- then they can disprove the points made against it. we want to wake them up not murder them.

the reason our race is in a lot of the shit it is now is because of christianity.. i dont place 100% blame on jews-- i dont view them as gods unlike some.. they only exploited those stupid enough to believe in their shitty fairy tales

That's not what I'm saying and you fucking know it....

Let me spell it out for you so that you can understand:

xtian white = race-traitor jew lover.

Got that now?

All that I can ask of the christians is that they go hide in their churches and stay out of my way, the day the shtf.

who cares about bashing them.. if they get their feelings hurt-- then they can disprove the points made against it. we want to wake them up not murder them.

the reason our race is in a lot of the shit it is now is because of christianity.. i dont place 100% blame on jews-- i dont view them as gods unlike some.. they only exploited those stupid enough to believe in their shitty fairy tales

My point is to get beyond it. Plain and simple.... Family and Race End of story...

All that I can ask of the christians is that they go hide in their churches and stay out of my way, the day the shtf.

And then we burn them down?:rofl:D

My point is to get beyond it. Plain and simple.... Family and Race End of story...

Well why don`t we go the whole hog and welcome faggots, bolshevists, race-mixers and liberals?:rolleyes:

I'm only a "petting heavily" face so I guess I cannot answer.....:)

Does this help the WHITE RACE, DOES IT....?

I'm by no means a christian supporter, but WTF. Here we go again, lets bash the damn christians.

There's always someone starting shit. It's either Bill White or someone else starting shit, or someone starting shit about religion.. Give it a fucking rest. This is about the OUR RACE.

The ONLY WAY WE WILL SUCCEED IS by following this rule.

FAMILY AND RACE End of Story....

Take the religion issue and shove it up your asses....
I will be happy to cease to bash the Christlings, just as soon as they stop planning to burn me at the stake for being a Wodanist, running around screaming 'Satanist' as they point their hate-filled ignorant fingers at me and trying to force their religion down the throats of the rest of the population.
Christlings tortured and murdered my brethren between 325AD and 1826AD. They destroyed almost every trace of northern Europe's pre-Christian history.
They continue to persecute we pagans. If you want to experience how obnoxious Christlings are at heart, begin to call yourself a pagan and see what happens to you.
You may be interested to know that Christinsanity is an issue only within the United States of America.
In Europe and elsewhere in the world about 99.9% of white racialists are either pagans or athiests, because when they look at Christinsanity they see a Jewish cult that has nothing whatsoever to do with white people, other than the fact that it was forced on our ancestors at the point of a sword.
In Europe, they call Christinsanity 'the American disease'.

Let me spell it out for you so that you can understand:

xtian white = race-traitor jew lover.

Got that now?

Your putting religious beliefs before the race? I don't understand that...

Well why don`t we go the whole hog and welcome faggots, bolshevists, race-mixers and liberals?:rolleyes:


LMAO, oh come on, you sound like a damn MSM jew owned journalist.... You can do better than that....

Your putting religious beliefs before the race? I don't understand that...

These are not just any old religious beliefs. xtianity is an adherence to a jewish god and way of thinking that has acted like a pox on the ancient world[to paraphrase Hitler].
Hitler said let xtianity die a natural death!

Religion has no place in the racialist movement. I've never gone out of my way to bash a xian and really don't give a shit just how gullible they are so long as it doesn't affect me or mine. Unfortunately, their credulity does just that as evidenced when they import niggers and spics into my living space and prevent me from defending myself against them by joining forces with those paragons of virtue, the people they worship, Gawds chosen.

LMAO, oh come on, you sound like a damn MSM jew owned journalist.... You can do better than that....

Are you a xtian?

If you are do you realise that your saviour was a jew?

Death to all jews and that includes the nazarene!

NOW, we're getting some where... Let's let christianity take the course it has, and stop giving a shit.

Our course is OURS and WE'LL build the road we travel, not the one that's paved for us, nor should be destroy the ones of others unless it obstructing ours.... Mishko Novosel

They destroyed almost every trace of northern Europe's pre-Christian history. After Europe became Christian, the whites went on to rule the world.

When the Christians landed on Plymouth Rock, what is now America was 0% Christian, and in a few hundred years became the greatest white country on Earth.

These are facts. What are yours? Christianity did not wipe out Europe pre-Christian history, it were the monks that copied and recopied the old pagan stories.

Sorry, Jesus was a Syrian, stop being propaganda parodies.

Hafiz Assad said Jesus was a Syrian - After all, Jesus spoke Syrian (Aramaic). Hafiz Assad was during his life the world's #1 enemy of the Jews.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/435000/images/_437797_assad150.jpg Syrians are the world's biggest enemies of the Jews!

Christianity developed from the Samaritans, not Judaism. That was the whole concept of the Good Samaritan. The Jew would let the injured man die, the the Good Samaritan helped him. Jesus always favored the Samaritans over the Jews.

John 8:48, 52 - The Jews answered him (Jesus), "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?" - At this the Jews exclaimed, "Now we know that you (Jesus) are demon-possessed!

Herod and the leadership of the Jews were converted Edomites. THe bible said "God hated Esau." Esau was the father of the Edomites.

John 7:1, "After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him." His followers were constrained "for fear of the Jews" (John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).

The words of Jesus:
Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not but are the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN ".

The ancient Israelites were not a race per se like the main Jews of today. King David's top soldier was a Hittite, as well as one of his two best friends. Hittites were Aryans, no question among archeologists about that.

I want to encourage everyone that reads this first sentence to read this entire post. Please.

Let me take this opportunity to share with you a couple of my experiences. And yes, I'm a Christian.

I was approached while riding a bike in a state park by a couple of park kwaps who were "investigating" some comments I made to the gate attendant of said park. Never mind that no crime had been committed this was a serious investigation. :rolleyes:

I did everything but tell them to go stuff it. Since I hadn't committed any crime there was nothing they could and they left. So I get back to the gate since my car was parked outside the park and lo and behold these kwap thugs had the exit blocked. Long story short I was arrested and carted all over the area.

Wound up with charges in two different counties. I took them to trial. Acquitted of all charges in the first county related to their bogus accusations. Because of this all but one charge in the other county was dismissed. I had the chance to take "counseling" in lieu of trial on this remaining charge. I chose to take it to trial. Big mistake.

A week before trial they stacked five additional charges against me. All lies. Paraded out niggers I had never seen in my life who took the stand and lied. After a week long trial I was convicted of all six misdemeanors by the kwa jury and spent the next year with a jail full of niggers in a large Southern city.

The seventh day in I was choked unconscious by a 250 pound nigger who stole a watch I was wearing. No one told me not to wear a watch in there. Suffice to say that was my wake up call.

A few months pass and Oklahoma City bombing happens. I and many of my associates were used to write a hit piece about the evil "militia." Still have a copy of that article and haven't forgotten the Jew that wrote it although I'm sure he's forgotten me. His mistake.

Fast forward a year. I'm released. I move out of the state in question.

In order to make ends meet I type term papers. About two months after my release I'm delivering a term paper to a client who attends a local university. Kwaps from that university travel off campus and because my client was black this kwap was certain it was a drug deal.

Kwap (dyke by the way) pulls in behind the student who is with her 12 year-old daughter. I ask if there is a problem. Dyke kwap acts like the typical asshole dyke kwap and begins her "investigation." I think to myself, "Oh no, not this again."

For the record I had not been on campus and was not on campus property at this time. After asking the kwap at least three times if I had done anything wrong or otherwise committed a crime she stated, "No." Realizing that this was a bad situation I told my client that I was going home and to call if she needed anything else.

I exit the parking lot of a bookstore about 75 yards from where I was living when another campus kwap came out of no where and tried to hit me three times with his automobile. I made it to my house and while opening the door that kwap pulled into my yard and pulled a gun on me.

Needless to say I was furious. Once inside I locked the door and called 911 to file a complaint with the city against these campus kwaps. Campus kwaps intercept city cop and lie to him. City kwap comes to my house with those bastard campus kwaps in tow. He refuses to take a complaint and the campus kwaps refuse to leave my property.

The campus kwaps keep me from closing my door also. I walk into my kitchen and call 911 a third time and ask them to ask the kwaps to leave since they won't take a report. I hear the campus kwap in charge state, "Can we take him down with the four of us?" Remember now I haven't committed any crime.

I told them several times they didn't have permission to come into my home. They broke into my home anyway while I was on the phone with 911. They got about 15 feet from me when I dropped the phone and picked up my 12 gauge shotgun that I had put behind a chair in case things got out of hand.

I took aim at them at which time they knocked each other down trying to get out of the house. (They weren't so big and bad when the playing field was level.) For the next seven hours I had a swat team around my house trying to kill me. The city negotiator kept asking me to come out and "talk" but refused to tell me what crime I had committed.

Finally around 4am I told them that if someone went and swore out a warrant and could tell me exactly what I did wrong I would consider coming out. They got a warrant but not before the one campus kwap forged a judges signature on a phony warrant. He told them that they "could trick me out." I think the city kwaps then realized I had been done wrong.

At around 5am the swat team fired cs gas into my house even though I was moving the barricade away from the door and coming out. It took them three criminal trials to obtain one misdemeanor conviction from that incident and it was a charge related to my defending myself with the shotgun. You can read all about it here if you wish (http://www.theharbinger.org/xvi/980512/tsang.html). There is an update to the original article here (http://www.theharbinger.org/xvii/981020/tsang.html).

I've been put through five (5) criminal trials (this doesn't include at least two mistrials) over absolutely nothing other than my standing up to several bastard kwaps when they violated my rights. NOTHING! I've spent a year in white man's hell on earth surrounded by niggers. I've been slandered by the Jew press.

How many of you atheist, pagan, Christian hating boys and girls would fight as I did above? Do you have the courage? Would you risk jail over your beliefs? Would you pick up a shotgun against four kwap thugs if they broke into your home and threatened you?

This Christian did! Is there anything written above that you feel reflects any cowardice on my part? Do you see any weakness? Why don't you lay off the gratuitous Christian bashing? I'm sick of it myself and haven't said anything until now. I'm looking forward to the time when every one of you on the Christian hating bandwagon are put to the test. It will be interesting to see if you pass it like a white man or woman.

Anybody that has time to spend attacking Klansmen and Orthodox National Socialist, instead of doing something constructive is self-evident to be a troublemaker.

Ya but....christians openly welcome niggers into their church.
Hold hands and sing songs with them.
Yet would'nt invite them into their houses or let them date their daughter.
It's this hypocrisy that must stop. Be open about your views.
Is that bashing christians? no. That's telling the truth.
Is'nt that what were all about here...telling the truth?

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler
http://www.burningcross.net/inquisition/hitler-pope/hitler-cardinal.jpg

If I get on the air TONIGHT, I'm going to address this bullshit. I'm sick and fucking tired of it, not because of the issue of religion but because of what damage that it's done on all sides of our race...

WN's have MADE religion divisional between our own damn race. Just like the jew wants it. We've played into their own damn hands...

OTPTT,

That was quite a story! If I were you, I would probably hate cops and the justice system with a vengeance! I don't mean in any way for this to sound like I'm being a smartass, but what does being a Christian have to do with what you went through and how you handled it? and what did your belief system have to do with the way you were treated by the kwaps?

OTPTT,

That was quite a story! If I were you, I would probably hate cops and the justice system with a vengeance! I don't mean in any way for this to sound like I'm being a smartass, but what does being a Christian have to do with what you went through and how you handled it? and what did your belief system have to do with the way you were treated by the kwaps?

Reader's Digest version.

The American "Just-Us" system is corrupt to the core. Anyone with any experience knows that but I didn't early on and only learned it the hard way. I hate liars. I hate everyone that would try to harm me through lies and deceit for the mere offense of exercising my inalienable Rights that are secured by the constitutions of the United States and of the 50 States.

Part of my beliefs include Justice and Righteousness. There is none of that in the aforementioned Satanic system found in America today. I am not a man that will jump when told to jump. I especially don't like to be harassed and intimidated by the very people charged with protecting my RIghts. Violate my Rights and I'll fight you. With lethal force if necessary.

Yes Mishko. I am in full agreement. The bashing is nothing short of petty, and wasteful. I myself, elect no religion.. but i am sure the Christians here understand that the non-christians don't believe what they believe. There is no need to go any further. Christians in the WN cause only strengthen us. Why deter them? They are white, faithful to our race, and productive. This is not, and never will be Nazi Germany. We need to realize that we need to work with what we have now. - People like me, who grew up believing the lies... watching football, taking the NEWS for what they said. People like me are what 'we' are trying to attract.

I don't mean lets let blacks mexies and jews into our cause, i'm sayin that we are going to be quite diverse.. mainly because of our life's experiences however we allllllllll found this place because we allllll knew something was fucking wrong. Name the DAMN JEW, not the christian.

--- i was born Christian, but i separated by choice. Who cares???? No one. Name the Damn JEW and move on. We are WHITE. We are right. Faith isn't a concern. We, in my opinion, do not need a united Faith or lack there of.

Although I am very much opposed to Christianity, I am willing to work with anyone who is part of the struggle. There are many more distinctions we could make other than your status as a believer in Christianity. I know of Christians who I hold in higher esteem than those who explicitly disavow Christianity.

If Christianity can be used to advance the ideals of our struggle, then I am not going to outright preach opposition to it or declare it an enemy. There are bigger problems to attack than those who profess a belief in Christianity while being a racist at the same time. The more we divide ourselves, the weaker we become.

I am also willing to bet that those of you who preach constant opposition to Christians on here merely for the fact that they are Christian would find more comfort along side Christian WN than they would the random lemmings around here whenever we reach "SHTF".

Well why don`t we go the whole hog and welcome faggots, bolshevists, race-mixers and liberals?:rolleyes:

No, because those people have views that conflict with ours. Many Christians do also, but there are others who do not.

Also when speaking of those within our race who are the greatest threat to the race, are these people more often motivated by love/worship/whatever of some invisible being in the sky, or is their only real "god", money? are those who support illegal immigration,etc. doing it out of any kind of misplaced christian compassion or is it mostly due to greed. You could apply this to anything. yes, a lot of christians today believe all people are "their brothers" and other such nonsense, but I think everyone knows that this is a mindset that has infected all kinds of people. A good amount, probably even a majority of multiculti loving diversity fanatics are non religious, a lot of them even hate Christianity as much as they hate white western culture and the white man, in general. The assault on all of these things came hand in hand. The frankfurt school viewed destruction of christanity as being an important part of the whole bigger picture.

Some aspects of Christian doctrine opened the door for these ideas to take shape, there is not much of an argument that can be made against that. The Bible, though, is full of contradictions. For a very long time, in this nation, alone Christianity was able to coincide perfectly well with things like racial segregation and preference for one's own race. The Ku Klux Klan as we all know was a christian organization. I see no good reason to turn these kind of people away. I just don't care enough about what one wants to believe in, in regards to the afterlife or whatever else. The only thing that matters is their views on race. Religion is most likely always going to be the cause of all kinds of problems between our people, but it can and should be put on the backburner. The good majority of white folks out there have at least some kind of ties to the religion and view it as part of white western culture, even if they are basically unbelievers. We will get no where fast by attacking what has become, to so many, an important part of western culture.

Awwwwww, my shit got relegated to nutzpah... Oh well, I gotta work tomorrow anyways....

Awwwwww, my shit got relegated to nutzpah... Oh well, I gotta work tomorrow anyways....

You'r right about one thing, bashers are fuckfaces!
Because they don't understand that bashing is stupid, to only bash is not enough!
X-tians are a :[]-tool and therefore as dangerous as the:[] himself!
X-tians are our UNGLUECK!

Good night!

You'r right about one thing, bashers are fuckfaces!
Because they don't understand that bashing is stupid, to only bash is not enough!
X-tians are a :[]-tool and therefore as dangerous as the:[] himself!
X-tians are our UNGLUECK!

Good night!

Dude, shut your hole, you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about, and it has NOTHING to do with RELIGION.....

Can I get banned so Alex can unban me, then post this back in General Topics....?

Ya but....christians openly welcome niggers into their church.
Hold hands and sing songs with them.
Yet would'nt invite them into their houses or let them date their daughter.
It's this hypocrisy that must stop. Be open about your views.
Is that bashing christians? no. That's telling the truth.
Is'nt that what were all about here...telling the truth?

No, I don't look upon what you said as "bashing Christians" because you are criticizing a specific form of undesirable behavior rather than an entire group of people.

Our problem is only with those who say Christianity and WN are inherently incompatible and won't accept us under any circumstances; they're parroting stereotypes. We as white nationalists are tired of the mainstream community stereotyping us; isn't it silly to practice stereotyping within our own community?

In regards to your observation about hypocrisy, it's probably why most Christians on this board don't attend church regularly, but worship privately, perhaps with small like-minded groups.

I will be happy to cease to bash the Christlings, just as soon as they stop planning to burn me at the stake for being a Wodanist, running around screaming 'Satanist' as they point their hate-filled ignorant fingers at me and trying to force their religion down the throats of the rest of the population.
Christlings tortured and murdered my brethren between 325AD and 1826AD. They destroyed almost every trace of northern Europe's pre-Christian history.
They continue to persecute we pagans. If you want to experience how obnoxious Christlings are at heart, begin to call yourself a pagan and see what happens to you.
You may be interested to know that Christinsanity is an issue only within the United States of America.
In Europe and elsewhere in the world about 99.9% of white racialists are either pagans or athiests, because when they look at Christinsanity they see a Jewish cult that has nothing whatsoever to do with white people, other than the fact that it was forced on our ancestors at the point of a sword.
In Europe, they call Christinsanity 'the American disease'.

Thanks for repeating something that I pointed out here a long time ago. The reason that xtianity is an "American disease" is due to the relative low level of intelligence of the average, "God-fearing" Kwan, which is partly due, in turn, to the poor educational system here as compared with our ancestral lands of Europe.

Religion has no place in the racialist movement. I've never gone out of my way to bash a xian and really don't give a shit just how gullible they are so long as it doesn't affect me or mine. Unfortunately, their credulity does just that as evidenced when they import niggers and spics into my living space and prevent me from defending myself against them by joining forces with those paragons of virtue, the people they worship, Gawds chosen.

"By their fruits, shall ye know them."

Cocksucking christlings.

NOW, we're getting some where...


Our course is OURS and WE'LL build the road we travel, not the one that's paved for us, nor should we destroy the ones of others unless it obstructing ours.... Mishko Novosel


Dewd...could you have possibly come up with a gayer sounding signature? I think not. :)


-Jim

NOW, we're getting some where... Let's let christianity take the course it has, and stop giving a shit.



Why stop there? Why not actually be the "vanguard", as in Vanguard News Network, and be the first, er, I mean second group of folk to state up front, as Dr. Pierce's NA did, that xtians and xtianity are not only unwelcome, but also counterproductive to the White Racial Struggle.

After Europe became Christian, the whites went on to rule the world.

When the Christians landed on Plymouth Rock, what is now America was 0% Christian, and in a few hundred years became the greatest white country on Earth.

These are facts. What are yours? Christianity did not wipe out Europe pre-Christian history, it were the monks that copied and recopied the old pagan stories.

But it wasn't because they were Christians. It was because they were white. Christianity was just something they did on Sundays as a way to show respect to a benevolent and all-knowing God they wanted to believe existed.

Jesus got killed because he was what is commonly referred to as a "self-hating Jew". The other Jews, or Pharisees, in Jew-rusalem didn't like what they were hearing in rumors of his ministry in the countryside so when the supposed Christ rode into town they paid the crowd to threaten a revolt and the Roman (ie White) governor of the region was forced to murder the Rebel Jew via Crucifixion - a very common tool of execution in those days. And what was he rebelling against? His own kind! He was exposing their wickedness and calling them to account for their evil misdeeds. He thought he could plead and guilt them into correcting their ways. Boy was he wrong!

Christianity's soul is anti-Semitic (against evil), much like Islam, yet it has been upended because modern Bibles have been kosher-edited to the point where the Jews are not the villains of those times who murdered the Christian savior, but instead they are portrayed as heroic figures plastered all over both testaments. Moses? Jew. Noah? Jew. John (Jonah)? Jew. Adam? Jew. Jesus? REBEL Jew whom the ancient Rabbis of Jerusalem eliminated by proxy.

The religion is based on the book, which they call the bible. But the modern bible is not the bible of old. It has been rewritten so that the bad guys have become the good guys, and so on.

Get it back to pre-Vatican whatever it is that Mel Gibson believes, and maybe just maybe, God's chosen people, the Aryans, can find their testicles and open and see their own destroyers: der ewige Juden.

Why stop there? Why not actually be the "vanguard", as in Vanguard News Network, and be the first, er, I mean second group of folk to state up front, as Dr. Pierce's NA did, that xtians and xtianity are not only unwelcome, but also counterproductive to the White Racial Struggle.

Can you expound on your last statement? Also, did Dr. Pierce make it a requirement to be a non christian to join the NA? Was it on the application form?

More specifically, did DP have a religious test to contribute the 10 bucks a month dues or did he decline contributions if you were a Christian?

But it wasn't because they were Christians. It was because they were white. Christianity was just something they did on Sundays as a way to show respect to a benevolent and all-knowing God they wanted to believe existed.

This isn't true. I've read papers from the time of the colonists and after the colonies became "states", Georgia specifically, where during the course of regular sessions of government monies were allocated to various churches throughout Georgia. These monies were used for the needs of various members of the community in which the churches were located. It wasn't "just something they did on Sunday" as you erroneously believe.

These documents confirmed two things for me:

1. There was (is) no such thing as the Jew created "seperation of church and state."
2. Americans, at the time of the founding of our country, exercised their faith through their representatives holding government offices.

The documents I read are in Atlanta and if I have occasion to spend a day or two in nigger town I'll go to their location and make copies for your edification.

You couldn't even hold office in Colonial America if you weren't Christian, except for Maryland.

Take care of that which is urgent first. Sort out the details later. To go after the xians would jeopardize the former, and would be taken care of in the course of the latter.

On a side note, I am looking for a kike to sacrifice on the occasion of yule, any good leads?

Exactly. Let's take care of our pressing problems now, and when we have a white nation again we can start shooting each other over religion. Doing so right now only makes us weak.

[QUOTE]After Europe became Christian, the whites went on to rule the world.


It ruled the world before xtianity! Ever heard of Rome, ancient Greece and the Celts?:rolleyes:


When the Christians landed on Plymouth Rock, what is now America was 0% Christian, and in a few hundred years became the greatest white country on Earth.

Greatest white race-traitor country you mean! The jewSA was created by the jewish illuminati for one reason only-to enforce a global zionist agenda and that is exactly what it has always done!

These are facts. What are yours? Christianity did not wipe out Europe pre-Christian history, it were the monks that copied and recopied the old pagan stories.


The Armanenschaft, the Wotanist priestly caste were suppressed along with their ancient knowledge which was destroyed, plagiarised or stolen by the Roman church. Well now you are dying and we are growing strong.

http://www.burningcross.net/inquisition/hitler-pope/hitler-cardinal.jpg

You want to see the words of Hitler on xtianity?

Here they are:

"So it`s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."
[14/10/1941]

"The same thing is happening to music as is happening to beauty in a world dominated by the shavelings-the Christian religion is an enemy to beauty."
[20-21/2/1942]

"What Bolshevism is achieving to-day on the materialist and technical level,Christianity had achieved on the metaphysical level.
When the Crown sees the throne totter,it needs the support of the masses.
It would be better to speak of Constantine the traitor and Julian the Loyal than of Constantine the Great and Julian the Apostate."
[27/1/1942]

The religion fabricated by Paul of Tarsus,which was later called Christianity,is nothing but the Communism of to-day"
[29-30/11/1944]

"If God is truly interested in men being enlightened,one wonders why He resorts to torture for that purpose.
While we`re on the subject,let`s add that,even amongst those who claim to be good Catholics,very few really believe in this humbug."

I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.
It will last another hundred years,two hundred years perhaps.
My regret will have been that I couldn`t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar."
[27/2/1942]

"Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don`t believe the thing`s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself."
[14/12/1941]

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law,a protest against nature.
Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
[10/10/1941]

"I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mahomet, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians!"

"But Christianity is the invention of sick brains:"
[13/12/1941]

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity`s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."
[11-12/7/1941]

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
[19/10/1941]

What about the 30 million catholic mestizo xTians brought illegally into the US of A ?

How many people think bashing them is a negative thing to do ?

[QUOTE]No, because those people have views that conflict with ours. Many Christians do also, but there are others who do not.


xtianity, a globalist semitic religion is diametrically opposed to any anti-semitic and Aryan Weltanschauung. They are mutually exclusive and I can quote you from Rosenberg, Hitler and Savitri Devi et al on this if needs be!


Also when speaking of those within our race who are the greatest threat to the race, are these people more often motivated by love/worship/whatever of some invisible being in the sky, or is their only real "god", money? are those who support illegal immigration,etc. doing it out of any kind of misplaced christian compassion or is it mostly due to greed. You could apply this to anything. yes, a lot of christians today believe all people are "their brothers" and other such nonsense, but I think everyone knows that this is a mindset that has infected all kinds of people. A good amount, probably even a majority of multiculti loving diversity fanatics are non religious, a lot of them even hate Christianity as much as they hate white western culture and the white man, in general. The assault on all of these things came hand in hand. The frankfurt school viewed destruction of christanity as being an important part of the whole bigger picture.

It is xtianity which is responsible for introducing this faulty thinking amongst our peoples to the extent that most Aryans are too emasculated to do what needs to be done-to take up arms and eradicate world jewry!

Some aspects of Christian doctrine opened the door for these ideas to take shape, there is not much of an argument that can be made against that. The Bible, though, is full of contradictions. For a very long time, in this nation, alone Christianity was able to coincide perfectly well with things like racial segregation and preference for one's own race.


There is nothing at all within xtianity that supports racial segregation or supremacy. It is this double and twisted thinking that has produced the collective American neurosis that I have termed the Pilgrim Fathers` Complex!

The Ku Klux Klan as we all know was a christian organization. I see no good reason to turn these kind of people away. I just don't care enough about what one wants to believe in, in regards to the afterlife or whatever else. The only thing that matters is their views on race. Religion is most likely always going to be the cause of all kinds of problems between our people, but it can and should be put on the backburner. The good majority of white folks out there have at least some kind of ties to the religion and view it as part of white western culture, even if they are basically unbelievers. We will get no where fast by attacking what has become, to so many, an important part of western culture.

I will never consider anyone who worships a jewish and anti-Aryan god as a comrade. This makes them all race-traitors!

No, I don't look upon what you said as "bashing Christians" because you are criticizing a specific form of undesirable behavior rather than an entire group of people.

Our problem is only with those who say Christianity and WN are inherently incompatible and won't accept us under any circumstances; they're parroting stereotypes. We as white nationalists are tired of the mainstream community stereotyping us; isn't it silly to practice stereotyping within our own community?

In regards to your observation about hypocrisy, it's probably why most Christians on this board don't attend church regularly, but worship privately, perhaps with small like-minded groups.

Why do you worship a non-existent god of the jews and follow a semitic slave religion?:confused:

What about the 30 million catholic mestizo xTians brought illegally into the US of A ?

How many people think bashing them is a negative thing to do ?
Christianity didn't bring them here.

If your not foolish enough to swallow the jesus story, then you wont be foolish to fall for all the other garbage added on.

Christianity didn't bring them here.
I think your wrong there.

The fucking catholic church created them for a US invasion.

You have to remember, the catholic church lost out to the protestants when France and Spain were forced out of the US in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Since then, the catholics have used mecico as a breeding pen to launch an invasion with millions of racially bastardized mongrel xTian catholics in order to get back the influence they lost.

If the Germanics in North America dropped xInsanity for a Racial worldview, then no crucifix wearing racially fucked beaner from south america would have a chance.

I think your wrong there.

The fucking catholic church created them for a US invasion.

You have to remember, the catholic church lost out to the protestants when France and Spain were forced out of the US in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Since then, the catholics have used mecico as a breeding pen to launch an invasion with millions of racially bastardized mongrel xTian catholics in order to get back the influence they lost.

If the Germanics in North America dropped xInsanity for a Racial worldview, then no crucifix wearing racially fucked beaner from south america would have a chance.
So what's the solution? For all Christians to convert to the cult of the goat-dancing skin flute players like Whigger Swilly (White Will) and Benny the dead jew on a dick Klassen?

So what's the solution? For all Christians to convert to the cult of the goat-dancing skin flute players like Whigger Swilly (White Will) and Benny the dead jew on a dick Klassen?
Of course not.

If your of Germanic descent then National Socialism is your political creed with the Pagan tradition as your religion.

The two go together.

Of course not.

If your of Germanic descent then National Socialism is your political creed with the Pagan tradition as your religion.

The two go together.Do you truly believe that National Socialism would work in the US and Britain?

Do you truly believe that National Socialism would work in the US and Britain?
For people of Germanic descent - yes!

For people of Germanic descent - yes!
What about the people of Keltic descent? They are a huge portion of both the British and the US population.

What about the people of Keltic descent? They are a huge portion of both the British and the US population.
There are a few celts knocking around, but I would say they have largely interbred with the Germanics from the North and with the Meds from the South.

Of the few that remain, I would count them as allies.

However, according to the US census bureau, most people in the US are of Germanic descent - German, English, Scots, Germanic Irish, Scandinavian, Dutch.

The US and Canada is Germanic territory.

Why do you worship a non-existent god of the jews and follow a semitic slave religion?:confused:

You keep saying that God doesn't exist. Would you please provide proof to support your statement? And for the record I haven't made any statements regarding the existence or nonexistence of God so please refrain from answering my request with a question.

On a side note has any else ever seen a poster that outlines the human endocrine system? Had a friend that was in medical school at the University of Tennessee and when I would visit him I'd see all of his medical school materials including this poster. I believe it would be easier for a system of highways to appear out of nowhere (evolve) than for the same to happen of the aforementioned human endocrine system.

The majority of the Christian bashers are social misfits. These people are what holds the movement back. They go out of their way to chase people off. They never named one instance a Christian in the movement has harmed them. Only the jews hate Christians as much of these bashers. It makes me wonder their motives.

You want to see the words of Hitler on xtianity?

Here they are:

Where did this Hitler quote come from? Seems like Hitler was schizophrenic. Can anyone square these apparent discrepancies?

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler

Seems like Hitler was schizophrenic.

If anyone's schizophrenic, its you.

If anyone's schizophrenic, its you.

I asked a simple question and you make personal attacks. Go to your room and don't come out until I tell you to young man. :rofl

And by the way, my above question was sincere. I'd like to know what others think about the apparent disparity between these statements by Hitler assuming he made them at all.

You keep saying that God doesn't exist. Would you please provide proof to support your statement? And for the record I haven't made any statements regarding the existence or nonexistence of God so please refrain from answering my request with a question.



I never said God did not exist. Read my words again! I maintain that your god, the god of the jews is an illusion. He doesn`t exist and never has.
I challenged your jewish god to a duel a few years ago and I am still waiting for him to show up!
Here is the thread!

A Challenge to the christlingsl

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6796

The majority of the Christian bashers are social misfits. These people are what holds the movement back. They go out of their way to chase people off. They never named one instance a Christian in the movement has harmed them. Only the jews hate Christians as much of these bashers. It makes me wonder their motives.

Try and grasp this very simple fact! You worship a jewish desert tribal god who is psychotic and hates Aryans. Your god is the god of our racial enemy der ewige jude. Ergo you are a xtian cocksucker and we don`t want any part of you and if you get in our way there will come a day when every last one of you will be crucified as an offering to Wotan and you will receive the martyrdom that you long for!:[]

Where did this Hitler quote come from? Seems like Hitler was schizophrenic. Can anyone square these apparent discrepancies?

Souds like a speech to me and like all speeches by politicians they are flavoured for public consumption and mean absolutely nothing. I suggest that you assess Hitler by his persecution of the churches and the utter contempt that he has for people like you in his private conversations as recorded in Table Talk.:[]

The only schizophrenics around here are those who worship our enemy`s god and then claim to be anti-semitic, now fuck off xristling!

Try and grasp this very simple fact! You worship a jewish desert tribal god who is psychotic and hates Aryans. Your god is the god of our racial enemy der ewige jude. Ergo you are a xtian cocksucker and we don`t want any part of you and if you get in our way there will come a day when every last one of you will be crucified as an offering to Wotan and you will receive the martyrdom that you long for!:[]

Where in the Bible does it say that God is a Jew? How do you know what I believe since I have never discussed this subject either personally or online?

You're quick to make broad, general statements that you cannot support with fact and that are as pathetic as the Jew propaganda that we white people fight on a daily basis. Give it a rest already. I'm not your enemy or am I?

[OTPTT;697200]Where in the Bible does it say that God is a Jew? How do you know what I believe since I have never discussed this subject either personally or online?

The bible is a jewish document written by the jews about the jews and for the jews. Ergo the god that they present within its shit stained pages is the god of their diseased imagination.
He is a god who allegedly changes not and yet repenteth that he made man! He forever changes his mind about things and has poor long term vision and loses his temper over the slightest insult to his semitic divinity.
He commands the jews to take the land of Caanan from the non-semitic and indeed Aryan peoples by extermination of every living thing that they find.
He is a symptom of a diseased mind. Just as the jews collectively suffer from psychosis so do their/your god!
I have spent 17 years of my life up to 13 years ago studying the bible and after hearing the call of the blood I rejected it as the jewish forgery that it is.
So don`t think that you can argue with me using the bible as your basis because I will know it better than you and frequently quote from it in debates like this, so be warned kid!

You're quick to make broad, general statements that you cannot support with fact and that are as pathetic as the Jew propaganda that we white people fight on a daily basis. Give it a rest already. I'm not your enemy or am I?


The arguments about the jewishness of xtianty, jesus and the bible have been rehashed many times over the years on this forum. I suggest that you read some of the old threads rather than waste our time with old arguments that have already been shot to flames so conclusively.
Yes you are my enemy and you will meet the same fate as all the jews and niggers when we arise again.

Try and grasp this very simple fact! You worship a jewish desert tribal god who is psychotic and hates Aryans. Your god is the god of our racial enemy der ewige jude. Ergo you are a xtian cocksucker and we don`t want any part of you and if you get in our way there will come a day when every last one of you will be crucified as an offering to Wotan and you will receive the martyrdom that you long for!:[]

:rofl:rofl You follow your myths while making threats beind a pc. You need a life. You will not crucify anybody. Fact is we need Christians in our struggle. They do make up the majority of the white population. BTW, Ron Paul is also a Christian.

This thread was NEVER intended to be divisive but of course some people had to make it that way...


So Let me state this CLEARLY, AGAIN. WN should not take issue with another WN's religion, plain and simple... If there are 100 REAL WN on VNN I would be surprised. That being said, we have to learn to get along, and RESPECT each others beliefs. If we don't, we might as well say screw it and go back to acting like a bunch of monkeys fucking a football.....

:rofl:rofl You follow your myths while making threats beind a pc. You need a life. You will not crucify anybody. Fact is we need Christians in our struggle. They do make up the majority of the white population. BTW, Ron Paul is also a Christian.

Fuck your neo-con saviour!

Here in Europe xtianity is dead and there are no racialists who bow the knee before a kike god so your presence in the cause makes not a blind bit of difference so fuck off xristling!:[]

Fuck your neo-con saviour!

Here in Europe xtianity is dead and there are no racialists who bow the knee before a kike god so your presence in the cause makes not a blind bit of difference so fuck off xristling!:[]

There were Order members who were Christian. I guess you are better than them. What have you done for the cause besides insulting the Order members? I don't care what someone's religion is as long as they are for the white race.

Fuck your neo-con saviour!

Here in Europe xtianity is dead and there are no racialists who bow the knee before a kike god so your presence in the cause makes not a blind bit of difference so fuck off xristling!:[]

LMAO, you almost sound proud of jewrupe.... HAHAHAHAHAHA, a Croatian singer can't even perform in another country in the EU, without have to go to re-education camp....

AL, try and show some respect.....

There were Order members who were Christian. I guess you are better than them. What have you done for the cause besides insulting the Order members? I don't care what someone's religion is as long as they are for the white race.

And there were Order members who were heathen, so fucking what?:confused:

What the fuck have you done apart from take it in the arse from jewsus?

LMAO, you almost sound proud of jewrupe.... HAHAHAHAHAHA, a Croatian singer can't even perform in another country in the EU, without have to go to re-education camp....

AL, try and show some respect.....

A Europe that a niggerfied jewish run jewSA turned it in to. I just pray that the next time Americans land their unwanted arses in Europe every last one of them returns to that shit hole in a body bag.
So think before you open your big mouth!

A Europe that a niggerfied jewish run jewSA turned it in to. I just pray that the next time Americans land their unwanted arses in Europe every last one of them returns to that shit hole in a body bag.
So think before you open your big mouth!


Hey, I'll be there in April, you wanna buy me a pint?:cool:

so fucking what?:confused:

So you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush that you insist on doing. Why do you wish to alienate some of the very people that will work harder than the majority of most "WNs?" I don't get it.

If you have something tangible to bitch and moan about regarding specific behavior that is detrimental to whites then point that out. But to continue on a perpetual campaign against those who hold beliefs that you disagree with, but who may be positioned to do a great amount of good for whites when things go South, seems to me to be as effective as fighting one's shadow. Alienating people is not good for the white race imho.

So you can't paint everyone with the same broad brush that you insist on doing. Why do you wish to alienate some of the very people that will work harder than the majority of most "WNs?" I don't get it.

If you have something tangible to bitch and moan about regarding specific behavior that is detrimental to whites then point that out. But to continue on a perpetual campaign against those who hold beliefs that you disagree with, but who may be positioned to do a great amount of good for whites when things go South, seems to me to be as effective as fighting one's shadow. Alienating people is not good for the white race imho.

People who try to divide whites are suspect IMO. If they are simple enough to call every Christian a bad name then they are no different than a zionist jew.

You follow your myths while making threats beind a pc. You need a life. You will not crucify anybody. Fact is we need Christians in our struggle. They do make up the majority of the white population. BTW, Ron Paul is also a Christian.
No!

We dont xTians, their a waste of oxygen!

No!

We dont xTians, their a waste of oxygen!

WHO THE FUCK IS WE? I'll fire up the feed for VNN Broadcasting right the fuck now. Will YOU come on and explain WHO the fuck is WE?

I got the day off, so I've got the time....

WHO THE FUCK IS WE? I'll fire up the feed for VNN Broadcasting right the fuck now. Will YOU come on and explain WHO the fuck is WE?

I got the day off, so I've got the time....
We National Socialists!

Why not do the correct thing and be one - National Socialism Explained

Adolf Hitler spoke the Truth and that's good enough for me.

WHO THE FUCK IS WE?
He's got a turd in his pocket by the name of Myatt (goes by Aryan Load on this forum). Myatt has ears that would make Prince Charles envious, he's the definition of wingnut.

We National Socialists!

Why not do the correct thing and be one -

Dude, prove me the fuck wrong. As I've stated, I'll do a Broadcast right fucking now, and YOU or ANYONE that's a National Socialist can try and recruit me.... It's as simple as that.....;)

Dude, prove me the fuck wrong. As I've stated, I'll do a Broadcast right fucking now, and YOU or ANYONE that's a National Socialist can try and recruit me.... It's as simple as that.....;)
Prove you wrong on what ?

As for recruiting, i'm not asking you to be in my particular group. I'm only asking you to consider what Adolf Hitler started and for you to decide whether you agree with him.

Note: I dont have a mic so we'll have to leave the broadcast until a later time.

Note: I dont have a mic so we'll have to leave the broadcast until a later time.

Do you have a phone? You can call in. Just let me know, or will you find another excuse...?

Do you have a phone? You can call in. Just let me know, or will you find another excuse...?
I live in Britain not the USA!

....and no offense, but i'm not going to give you my phone number.


Dude, prove me the fuck wrong. As I've stated, I'll do a Broadcast right fucking now, and YOU or ANYONE that's a National Socialist can try and recruit me.... It's as simple as that.....;)

So back to the question - prove you wrong on what ?

I suggest that you assess Hitler by his persecution of the churches and the utter contempt that he has for people like you in his private conversations as recorded in Table Talk...

Ah yes! Christian Hitler's Table Talk, the very source of these quotes:

Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilise the criminal underworld and thus organise a proto-Bolsevism. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 143]

Luther had the merit of rising against the Pope and the organisation of the Church. It was the first of the great revolutions. And thanks to his translation of the Bible, Luther replaced our dialects by the great German language! -Table-Talk [p. 9]

It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. -Table-Talk [p. 61]

I envisage the future, therefore, as follows: First of all, to each man his private creed. Superstition shall not lose its rights. The Party is sheltered from the danger of competing with the religions. -Table-Talk [p. 62]

We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. Table-Talk [p. 6]

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism the destroyer. Nevertheless, the Galilean, who later was called Christ, intended something quite different. He must be regarded as a popular leader who too up His position against Jewry. Galilee was a colony where the Romans had probably installed Gallic legionaries, and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a whore-- of a whore and a Roman soldier. The decisive falsification of Jesus's doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work with subtlety and for purposes of personal exploitation. For the Galiean's object was to liberate His country from Jewish oppression. He set Himself against Jewish capitalism, and that's why the Jews liquidated Him. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 76]

An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal)... Table-Talk [p. 59]

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

:rolleyes:

I live in Britain not the USA!

....and no offense, but i'm not going to give you my phone number.


So back to the question - prove you wrong on what ?


You said the WE DON'T WANT CHRISTIANS. I asked you, who is WE? And now you're afraid of calling into a show, like I give to fuck about your damn number.... Keep giving me excuses.. Typical....

if so, are you willing to dump the rest of the bible outside of the four gospels ?

...or do you admire the rest of the baggage the jews have sold on top of the jesus story ?

Ah yes! Christian Hitler's Table Talk, the very source of these quotes:

Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilise the criminal underworld and thus organise a proto-Bolsevism. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 143]

Luther had the merit of rising against the Pope and the organisation of the Church. It was the first of the great revolutions. And thanks to his translation of the Bible, Luther replaced our dialects by the great German language! -Table-Talk [p. 9]

It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. -Table-Talk [p. 61]

I envisage the future, therefore, as follows: First of all, to each man his private creed. Superstition shall not lose its rights. The Party is sheltered from the danger of competing with the religions. -Table-Talk [p. 62]

We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. Table-Talk [p. 6]

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism the destroyer. Nevertheless, the Galilean, who later was called Christ, intended something quite different. He must be regarded as a popular leader who too up His position against Jewry. Galilee was a colony where the Romans had probably installed Gallic legionaries, and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a whore-- of a whore and a Roman soldier. The decisive falsification of Jesus's doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work with subtlety and for purposes of personal exploitation. For the Galiean's object was to liberate His country from Jewish oppression. He set Himself against Jewish capitalism, and that's why the Jews liquidated Him. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 76]

An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal)... Table-Talk [p. 59]

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

:rolleyes:

You said the WE DON'T WANT CHRISTIANS. I asked you, who is WE? And now you're afraid of calling into a show, like I give to fuck about your damn number.... Keep giving me excuses.. Typical....
I've already said we means: we National Socialists!

So what have I proved you wrong on ?

if so, are you willing to dump the rest of the bible outside of the four gospels ?

...or do you admire the rest of the baggage the jews have sold on top of the jesus story ?

lol, what I'm not willing to do is claim Hitler wasn't a Christian when he claimed he was his entire life:

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” ( Adolf Hitler, from John Toland [Pulitzer Prize winner], Adolf Hitler, New York: Anchor Publishing, 1992, p. 507. )

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )

“We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933. )

“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.” ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 383. )

“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.” ( Adolf Hitler, in 26 April 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933. )

I'm not surprised, however - imposters like to create their own "Messiahs" after their own false image.

Hitler sent antichrists to the gallows. ;)

I've already said we means: we National Socialists!

So what have I proved you wrong on ?

National Socialists? Hey brother, I've lived in socialist societies, it's a gentler and kindler form of communism... Fuck that... Like I stated in another thread, there might be 10,000 WN in the US alone, and I doubt that 5% are NS. Times have changed, and either we work together or we die alone, the choice is ours..... We've got to stop fighting over bullshit....

Christianity is a white religion, some of it originates from ancient greek and persian myth. Its tenets, generaly speaking fit the white worldview so any bashing is fractricidal.
Economics has become a modern religion far more destructive than any other in history and deserves more attention than it has at the moment.

National Socialists? Hey brother, I've lived in socialist societies, it's a gentler and kindler form of communism... Fuck that...

NS is about Race.

NS is nothing like communism.

Have a listen to what Ernst Zundel says about NS, check the link in my signature and listen.


Like I stated in another thread, there might be 10,000 WN in the US alone, and I doubt that 5% are NS.
NS is nothing to do with WN.

As I see it WN is a ZOG led xTian movement whereby people run around the planet looking for the 'biblical promised land', only this time its for whites (incl jews who have white skin) only.


Times have changed, and either we work together or we die alone, the choice is ours..... We've got to stop fighting over bullshit....
Well that's what the socialism in National Socialism is all about.

Socialism is about cooperation.

National Socialism is about Racial cooperation i.e. people of our race working together to create something greater than our individual selves - a Nation.

In contrast communism is not even socialism, it's complete and utter slavery!

Anyway have a listen to Ernst, he explains it a bit clearer.

Let's not get sidetracked by dissecting religious doctrine. The title of the thread is, Do you think bashing Christians is positive? As an atheist, I say no, it is not. Racial consciousness and Christian beliefs are not mutually exclusive, as proven by the many Christians on this board.

Alienating Christians will not help in our struggle. Was Rockwell less of a White man because of his Christian beliefs?

**From Aryan Lord to me, via neg rep**
"Fuck off and take your kike loving friends with you! Anyone who worships a jewish `go`d is a fucking race-traitor that should be lynched on that great day."

Thanks for the Neg rep and the angry comment AL. It hurts.. oh so deep...
-Hmmm, if you weren't going to put the issue to rest like Mishko had asked, then why not debate it like a civil white, rather than verbally attack like an angry black? Silly if you ask me.

ON TOPIC - "is christian bashing positive?" - I say no again.. evidence is this post, as I am now at odds with the 'great' Aryan Lord.

I will be happy to cease to bash the Christlings, just as soon as they stop planning to burn me at the stake for being a Wodanist, running around screaming 'Satanist' as they point their hate-filled ignorant fingers at me and trying to force their religion down the throats of the rest of the population.
Christlings tortured and murdered my brethren between 325AD and 1826AD. They destroyed almost every trace of northern Europe's pre-Christian history.
They continue to persecute we pagans. If you want to experience how obnoxious Christlings are at heart, begin to call yourself a pagan and see what happens to you.
You may be interested to know that Christinsanity is an issue only within the United States of America.
In Europe and elsewhere in the world about 99.9% of white racialists are either pagans or athiests, because when they look at Christinsanity they see a Jewish cult that has nothing whatsoever to do with white people, other than the fact that it was forced on our ancestors at the point of a sword.
In Europe, they call Christinsanity 'the American disease'.

I side with Derrick and Aryan Lord on this one. Derrick, you are absolutely correct in what you've said. We have rich traditions that many of us aren't even aware of. Much of our history was wiped out with the Jew cult nonsense. It probably started prior to the felling of Thor's Oak but that was a monumental moment for the xtians. But I'm old enough to know that we should go a little easy on our xtian brethren. Either a) They don't understand because they are ignorant or, b) Refuse to open their minds due to years of brainwashing by their "traditions" (i.e. CI nonsense, but that is my opinion).
Whatever the issue, Mark does have a good point in that our overall cause is more important than our individual beliefs and is what we should concern ourselves with. It is hard though, because so many of us want others to take the next big step and become truely jew free in their beliefs.

**From Aryan Lord to me, via neg rep**
"Fuck off and take your kike loving friends with you! Anyone who worships a jewish `go`d is a fucking race-traitor that should be lynched on that great day."

Thanks for the Neg rep and the angry comment AL. It hurts.. oh so deep...
-Hmmm, if you weren't going to put the issue to rest like Mishko had asked, then why not debate it like a civil white, rather than verbally attack like an angry black? Silly if you ask me.

ON TOPIC - "is christian bashing positive?" - I say no again.. evidence is this post, as I am now at odds with the 'great' Aryan Lord.

Aryan Lord sent me a negative rep also. I sent him a positive one letting him know that Jesus still can save him. I feel sorry for him for he seems so bitter at life.

christianity like all religions is a tool for controling the masses. saying christianity is bad is like saying a steering wheel is bad. it really depends who is behind the wheel

xTians believe jews should come first, even before white kids.

Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."

He's got a turd in his pocket by the name of Myatt (goes by Aryan Load on this forum). Myatt has ears that would make Prince Charles envious, he's the definition of wingnut.

You lie about me being Mr Myatt.

You lie about having a Masters degree.

You lie about being the descendant of French nobility.

You lie about being the father of 7 children.

You lie so frequently we must query whether you are in fact a biological jew; we already know that you are a jew in spirit by your worship of a psychotic Aryan-hating jewish desert tribal god.:[]

Ah yes! Christian Hitler's Table Talk, the very source of these quotes:

Christ was an Aryan, and St. Paul used his doctrine to mobilise the criminal underworld and thus organise a proto-Bolsevism. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 143]

Luther had the merit of rising against the Pope and the organisation of the Church. It was the first of the great revolutions. And thanks to his translation of the Bible, Luther replaced our dialects by the great German language! -Table-Talk [p. 9]

It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself. -Table-Talk [p. 61]

I envisage the future, therefore, as follows: First of all, to each man his private creed. Superstition shall not lose its rights. The Party is sheltered from the danger of competing with the religions. -Table-Talk [p. 62]

We don't want to educate anyone in atheism. Table-Talk [p. 6]

Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism the destroyer. Nevertheless, the Galilean, who later was called Christ, intended something quite different. He must be regarded as a popular leader who too up His position against Jewry. Galilee was a colony where the Romans had probably installed Gallic legionaries, and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a whore-- of a whore and a Roman soldier. The decisive falsification of Jesus's doctrine was the work of St. Paul. He gave himself to this work with subtlety and for purposes of personal exploitation. For the Galiean's object was to liberate His country from Jewish oppression. He set Himself against Jewish capitalism, and that's why the Jews liquidated Him. -Hitler [Table-Talk, p. 76]

An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal)... Table-Talk [p. 59]

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

:rolleyes:

For a start half of these are misquotes that can not actually be found in Table Talk.
Show me for instance the reference to Wotan in Table Talk! Give me the date that remark was made or admit to everyone one on here that you have lied and indeed have never read Table Talk!
Furthermore I require you to address the numerous references in Table Talk to Hitler`s condemnation of xtianity! Do you think that you can do that?
Let me remind you what they are:

"So it`s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."
[14/10/1941]

"The same thing is happening to music as is happening to beauty in a world dominated by the shavelings-the Christian religion is an enemy to beauty."
[20-21/2/1942]

"What Bolshevism is achieving to-day on the materialist and technical level,Christianity had achieved on the metaphysical level.
When the Crown sees the throne totter,it needs the support of the masses.
It would be better to speak of Constantine the traitor and Julian the Loyal than of Constantine the Great and Julian the Apostate."
[27/1/1942]

The religion fabricated by Paul of Tarsus,which was later called Christianity,is nothing but the Communism of to-day"
[29-30/11/1944]

"If God is truly interested in men being enlightened,one wonders why He resorts to torture for that purpose.
While we`re on the subject,let`s add that,even amongst those who claim to be good Catholics,very few really believe in this humbug."

I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.
It will last another hundred years,two hundred years perhaps.
My regret will have been that I couldn`t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar."
[27/2/1942]

"Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don`t believe the thing`s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself."
[14/12/1941]

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law,a protest against nature.
Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
[10/10/1941]

"I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mahomet, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians!"

"But Christianity is the invention of sick brains:"
[13/12/1941]

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity`s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."
[11-12/7/1941]

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
[19/10/1941]

Note that all my references have dates next to them so that you can look them up.

lol, what I'm not willing to do is claim Hitler wasn't a Christian when he claimed he was his entire life:

“I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.” ( Adolf Hitler, from John Toland [Pulitzer Prize winner], Adolf Hitler, New York: Anchor Publishing, 1992, p. 507. )

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )

“We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered in Berlin, October 24, 1933. )

“Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.” ( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 383. )

“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.” ( Adolf Hitler, in 26 April 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933. )

I'm not surprised, however - imposters like to create their own "Messiahs" after their own false image.

Hitler sent antichrists to the gallows. ;)

Hitler was an astute politician and statesman operating in what was still a nominally xtian country and could not be seen to launch any overt attacks on xtianity especially in the early days.
Speeches are for mass consumption and therefore do not reveal the real thoughts of the man behind the public persona.
A better indication is Table Talk which reveals his true thoughts on the issue of xtianity. If you combine this with his gradual persecution of the clergy and his substitution of xtianity for Germanic paganism as evidenced in daily school life, parades and the SS and you will gain an insight into Hitler who was nothing other than an occultist.

"So it`s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."
[14/10/1941]

"The same thing is happening to music as is happening to beauty in a world dominated by the shavelings-the Christian religion is an enemy to beauty."
[20-21/2/1942]

"What Bolshevism is achieving to-day on the materialist and technical level,Christianity had achieved on the metaphysical level.
When the Crown sees the throne totter,it needs the support of the masses.
It would be better to speak of Constantine the traitor and Julian the Loyal than of Constantine the Great and Julian the Apostate."
[27/1/1942]

The religion fabricated by Paul of Tarsus,which was later called Christianity,is nothing but the Communism of to-day"
[29-30/11/1944]

"If God is truly interested in men being enlightened,one wonders why He resorts to torture for that purpose.
While we`re on the subject,let`s add that,even amongst those who claim to be good Catholics,very few really believe in this humbug."

I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.
It will last another hundred years,two hundred years perhaps.
My regret will have been that I couldn`t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar."
[27/2/1942]

"Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don`t believe the thing`s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself."
[14/12/1941]

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law,a protest against nature.
Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
[10/10/1941]

"I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mahomet, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians!"

"But Christianity is the invention of sick brains:"
[13/12/1941]

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity`s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."
[11-12/7/1941]

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
[19/10/1941]

Let's not get sidetracked by dissecting religious doctrine. The title of the thread is, Do you think bashing Christians is positive? As an atheist, I say no, it is not. Racial consciousness and Christian beliefs are not mutually exclusive, as proven by the many Christians on this board.

Alienating Christians will not help in our struggle. Was Rockwell less of a White man because of his Christian beliefs?

I disagree. We have to seperate the wheat from the chaff.

In ancient Aryan society anyone who worshiped the gods of the enemies of the Volk would have been outcast, possibly exterminated. Who else but a race-traitor would do such a thing and demean himself?

Aryan Lord sent me a negative rep also. I sent him a positive one letting him know that Jesus still can save him. I feel sorry for him for he seems so bitter at life.

Fuck off shaveling! I am not bitter at life I just have a healthy hatred of the enemies of our race and shavelings constitute a fifth column within Aryan society as dangerous as their elder spiritual brothers the jew.
A man is an Aryan who is one both in body and in spirit. Your spirit is jewish and thus you can never be accepted by those who remain loyal to the blood and the gods of our blood who are encoded in our DNA.
As an Aryan I require saving from nothing! I reject your semitic notion of sin! As Aryans we have nothing in our ancient spiritual paths that recognises any such concept. You keep your jewish sin guilt trip to yourself and don`t foist it on to me!
For the record I was a bible believing fundamentalist from the age of 17 until I head the call of the blood in my early 30s. I am now 47.
I came to realise as did many of the high ranking National Socialists and post war ones such as Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano that one cannot be a National Socialist and a xtian. The are diametrically opposed ideologies. One had to give way and it did! I now follow the god of my people, Wotan.
So beware that I know the scriptures extremely well even now and will use them to counter any argument that you have.

christianity like all religions is a tool for controling the masses. saying christianity is bad is like saying a steering wheel is bad. it really depends who is behind the wheel

You advocate instilling semitic nonsense into the minds of the masses in order to control them? Are you jewish by any chance?:confused:

The Christian Bible is in two parts, Old & New Testament. The first is strictly the teaching of the Jew, the second written by Jews.

I think its a load of shit myself.

The Christian Bible is in two parts, Old & New Testament. The first is strictly the teaching of the Jew, the second written by Jews.

I think its a load of shit myself.


You must spread some reputation around before giving it to SidW UK again.

We have to seperate the wheat from the chaff...

Yeah, stop plagiarizing Jesus Christ since you hate Him so much.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, stop plagiarizing Jesus Christ since you hate Him so much.

:rolleyes:

It is you xtians that have done the plagiarising as any close examination of the xtian myth reveals.:[]
I suggest you study Charles Morris` Aryan Sun Myths The Origin of Religion.

It is you xtians that have done the plagiarising as any close examination of the xtian myth reveals.:[]
I suggest you study Charles Morris` Aryan Sun Myths The Origin of Religion.

lol, sure thing - how about you simply provide a source that predates Matthew 3:12, k?

http://sites.gizoogle.com/index2.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vnnforum.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D63990

I suggest you study Charles Morris` Aryan Sun Myths The Origin of Religion.


Yeah, Visser!

I bet you didn't even know that we were from the lost continent of Atlantis.:rolleyes:

Aryan Lord, where does your defiant warrior spirit get you? You are annoying people here, in one of the most pro white forums.
Hitler frightened the world power because he had a good formula. We are still in a xtian type situation.

"So it`s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches".

You behave like the white counterpart of Slammin2, you stiff necked bore.

lol, sure thing - how about you simply provide a source that predates Matthew 3:12, k?

I'll tell you what, why don't you provide a source which has Jesus speaking of separating the wheat from the chaff?


The only use of the wheat and chaff metaphor in the New Testament is in the following sayings attributed to John the Baptist:

Matthew 3:12

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Luke 3:17

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

lol, sure thing - how about you simply provide a source that predates Matthew 3:12, k?

Neither uses the phrase "separate the wheat from the chaff". The Gospel authors are themselves reiterating an idea found in earlier Jewish literature:

Job 21:17

They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth away.

Psalms 1:4

The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

Psalms 35:5

Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them.

Isaiah 5:24

Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

et passim

Chaff refers to Gentiles, wheat to Jews (they are called "wheat among the chaff" in the Midrash Tehilim):

Jeremiah 23:28

The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.

George Lincoln Rockwell was also a Christian. I have not seen one Christian Hater top Rockwell.

I'll tell you what, why don't you provide a source which has Jesus speaking of separating the wheat from the chaff?

Sure thing, Sándor:

Matthew 13:24-30 “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

Matthew 13:37-42 "He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Luke 22:31 “The Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat.”

Enjoy - hope that helps.

George Lincoln Rockwell was also a Christian. I have not seen one Christian Hater top Rockwell.

http://www.insanus.org/novacorja/Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

Sure thing, Sándor:

Matthew 13:24-30 “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

Matthew 13:37-42 "He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Luke 22:31 “The Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat.”

Enjoy - hope that helps.

Hehehe!
Don't they use "enjoy" in Tel Aviv the same way you use it? :eek:

Sure thing, Sándor:

Matthew 13:24-30 “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

Matthew 13:37-42 "He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Luke 22:31 “The Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat.”

Enjoy - hope that helps.

I'll ask you again, because you seem a little hard of hearing: why don't you provide a source which has Jesus speaking of separating the wheat from the chaff?

You made an accusation of plagiarism, now let's see you justify it.

I'll ask you again, because you seem a little hard of hearing: why don't you provide a source which has Jesus speaking of separating the wheat from the chaff?

You made an accusation of plagiarism, now let's see you justify it.

I just did - now provide your source that predates Matthew 3:12, k?

I just did

No you didn't.

- now provide your source that predates Matthew 3:12, k?

Predates with regard to what? No such phrase as "separate the wheat from the chaff" is found in your collection of Jewish fables. As for Matthew 3:12 itself, in my first post I already provided the source of that verse in older Jewish literature.

No you didn't.



Predates with regard to what? No such phrase as "separate the wheat from the chaff" is found in your collection of Jewish fables. As for Matthew 3:12 itself, in my first post I already provided the source of that verse in older Jewish literature.

How in the world do you keep up with this Sándor? I can't read more than a page of it without falling asleep. I am the type that can read a Biology textbook for hours on end too. :p

I'll ask you again, because you seem a little hard of hearing: why don't you provide a source which has Jesus speaking of separating the wheat from the chaff?

You made an accusation of plagiarism, now let's see you justify it.

And this helps our cause, in which way again? which side are you on?

No such phrase as "separate the wheat from the chaff" is found in your collection...

Yeah - sure thing, bro:

Luke 3:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%203:17;&version=51;); "He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork."

:rolleyes:

No such phrase as "separate the wheat from the chaff" is found in your collection of Jewish fables.

How does one become an expert in the Bible without first reading it?

lol, don't most faggots have avatars with puppys and pink dolls? :rofl

Thanks for another one of your disgusting generalizations :rolleyes:

Wait until my puppy (born the the 27. of october 2007) will be ready
to liberate you from the rest of your sleezy balls. Yes, he is still in his pink state of developement for now.
Why should I be hypocritical about his tender age?
He -already now- is smarter than you, Pastor Pissoir.
He goes to his potty! No urinating around whenever he feels like it. :cool:

How does one become an expert in the Bible without first reading it?



I'm no expert, but I do have an older Ferrar Fenton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrar_Fenton_Bible) translation I pick up and read from every once in a while.

I especially enjoy reading the Book Of Obadiah (http://freeonlinebible.blogspot.com/2007/12/book-of-obadiah.html). :)


-Jim

Thanks for another one of your disgusting generalizations :rolleyes:

Wait until my puppie (born the the 27. of october 2007) will be ready
to liberate you from the rest of your sleezy balls. Yes, he is still in his pink state of developement for now.
Why should I be hypocritical about his tender age?
He -already now- is smarter than you, Pastor Pissoir.
He goes to his potty! No urinating around whenever he feels like it. :cool:


Is it proper for a young lady to speak in such a manner?

Is it proper for a young lady to speak in such a manner?
Hope it's not as bad as to make you spew your :rofl-"coffee" all over:puke::hflol

Hope it's not as bad as to make you spew your :rofl-"coffee" all over:puke::hflol

Hot cocoa tonight. Christmas. Besides, you're not nearly as hilarious as Ben and Bernie :D

Hot cocoa tonight. Christmas. Besides, you're not nearly as hilarious as Ben and Bernie :D

Itz because you don't know me :D

[QUOTE]Aryan Lord, where does your defiant warrior spirit get you? You are annoying people here, in one of the most pro white forums.
Hitler frightened the world power because he had a good formula. We are still in a xtian type situation.

The defiant warrior spirit is the genuine Aryan spirit. I realise that you would much rather kneel down at the foot of the cross and reflect upon your sins whilst the men get on with the work of cleansing our race!:rolleyes:
What xtian type situation?
:confused:

"So it`s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches".

That was then-this is now! I don`t know what continent you live on but here in Europe xtianity died a natural death quite a while ago!


You behave like the white counterpart of Slammin2, you stiff necked bore.


You have contradicted yourself in the very same post. Either I am a defiant warrior or I am a stiff necked bore. Which am I?:rolleyes:

http://www.insanus.org/novacorja/Heinrich_Himmler.jpg

Sandor Himmler was not a xtian, he was a Germanic heathen. He abandoned his catholicism in his youth as did Hitler.

Not one anti christian has shown any progress they have helped in the movement. All they can do is slander and help the ADL. What a shameful bunch of losers they are.

Sandor Himmler was not a xtian, he was a Germanic heathen. He abandoned his catholicism in his youth as did Hitler.

I think that was pretty much the point of his post...

FAMILY AND RACE End of Story....

....

Folk and Family sounds fine to me. :)

Not one anti christian has shown any progress they have helped in the movement. All they can do is slander and help the ADL. What a shameful bunch of losers they are.

Never heard of Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler?:rolleyes:

A little birdy whispered unto me: "divide and conquer"

He then shat upon a kike:
http://rus-sky.com/history/images/polit-refugee.jpg

How does one become an expert in the Bible without first reading it?

Don't assume anything you pathetic Jesus cultist. My knowledge of the subject is extensive.

How does one become an expert in the Bible without first reading it?

I think reading it essential to have some understanding.

However, the trap many xTians fall into, is that they dont read anything else.

In other words, they have nothing to compare it too.

They are told by the jews that - 'it's the word of Sputnik', and they instantly believe that, without ever asking a single question.

xTians are the shock troops for the jews, and if we could exterminate them we would be doing mother Nature a massive favour.

I think reading it essential to have some understanding...

Non-Christians who read the Bible can only see meaningless words.

It's like reading somebody else's mail - you'll never understand what it says.

Yeah - sure thing, bro:

Luke 3:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%203:17;&version=51;); "He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork."

:rolleyes:

ΚΑΤΑ ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 3:17

οὗ τὸ πτύον ἐν τῇ χειρὶ αὐτοῦ διακαθᾶραι τὴν ἅλωνα αὐτοῦ καὶ συναγαγεῖν τὸν
σῖτον εἰς τὴν ἀποθήκην αὐτοῦ, τὸ δὲ ἄχυρον κατακαύσει πυρὶ ἀσβέστῳ.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"His winnowing fork is in His hand to thoroughly clear His threshing floor, and to gather the wheat into His barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
His winnowing shovel is in his hand to clean up his threshing floor. He will gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn the husks in a fire that can never be put out."

King James Bible
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

American Standard Version
whose fan is in his hand, thoroughly to cleanse his threshing-floor, and to gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire.

Bible in Basic English
In whose hand is the instrument with which he will make clean his grain; he will put the good grain in his store, but the waste will be burned in the fire which will never be put out.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his barn; but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.

Darby Bible Translation
whose winnowing-fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his threshing-floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner, but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

English Revised Version
whose fan is in his hand, throughly to cleanse his threshing-floor, and to gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire.

Tyndale New Testament
which hath his fan in his hand, and will purge his floor, and will gather his corn into his barn: And the chaff will he burn with fire that never shall be quenched.

Weymouth New Testament
His winnowing-shovel is in His hand to clear out His threshing-floor, and to gather the wheat into His storehouse; but the chaff He will burn up in fire unquenchable."

Webster's Bible Translation
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor, and will gather the wheat into his granary; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

World English Bible
whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his threshing floor, and will gather the wheat into his barn; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

Young's Literal Translation
whose winnowing shovel is in his hand, and he will thoroughly cleanse his floor, and will gather the wheat to his storehouse, and the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.'

Don't give me your "New Living Translation". No approximation to the phrasing it uses is to be found in the Greek, and it's use is thus strictly post facto. You might as well quote the Surfer's Bible and tell me that "hey dude" originates with Jesus.

I think reading it essential to have some understanding. However, the trap many xTians fall into, is that they dont read anything else. ...
xTians are the shock troops for the jews, and if we could exterminate them we would be doing mother Nature a massive favour.

I was talking about Aryan Lord (I think) and anyone else that believes that the modern day "Jew" wrote the Bible or that Christ was a "Jew." Anyone making such statements clearly hasn't read the Bible or done their research.

You can say the same thing about the majority of Americans. They don't read but believe what they're told by the Jewtube. Somewhere along the line someone calling themselves a Christian did you and "Aryan Lord" wrong and you two have been on a tear to destroy Christians since, imho. Nothing else can explain your anti Christian obsession.

Sandor Himmler was not a xtian, he was a Germanic heathen. He abandoned his catholicism in his youth as did Hitler.

That was my point. Somebody asked for a Christian-hater who did more than Rockwell.

I was talking about Aryan Lord (I think) and anyone else that believes that the modern day "Jew" wrote the Bible or that Christ was a "Jew." Anyone making such statements clearly hasn't read the Bible or done their research.

You can say the same thing about the majority of Americans. They don't read but believe what they're told by the Jewtube. Somewhere along the line someone calling themselves a Christian did you and "Aryan Lord" wrong and you two have been on a tear to destroy Christians since, imho. Nothing else can explain your anti Christian obsession.

17 years as a bible student and born again fundamentalist church-going, church-starting, preaching xtian are my credentials. And yours?:rolleyes:

That was my point. Somebody asked for a Christian-hater who did more than Rockwell.

Apologies Sandor, I misread what you typed.:(

I was talking about Aryan Lord (I think) and anyone else that believes that the modern day "Jew" wrote the Bible or that Christ was a "Jew." Anyone making such statements clearly hasn't read the Bible or done their research.

It is you who speaks in complete ignorance of history. Your staged question and answer sessions with "Pastor Visser" prove that much.

Don't give me your "New Living Translation". No approximation to the phrasing it uses is to be found in the Greek, and it's use is thus strictly post facto. You might as well quote the Surfer's Bible and tell me that "hey dude" originates with Jesus.

lol, you kike-alike antichrists are hilarious:

"The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their flagrant usage of fallacies of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles, one's hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday's defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I did not know what amazed me the more; the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods. I gradually came to hate them." - Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf - Chapter II)

Show me a source that mentions separating the wheat and chaff predating the Bible or just put a lid on it.

No worries, we both know there's none. :rofl

Non-Christians who read the Bible can only see meaningless words.

It's like reading somebody else's mail - you'll never understand what it says.

Don`t give us that bullshit about the holy spirit lifting the veil from our eyes! The bible must be judged by the plain meaning of its text and that is exactly what we have done and are doing!

17 years as a bible student and born again fundamentalist church-going, church-starting, preaching xtian are my credentials...

...and there's your problem, son.

lol, you kike-alike antichrists are hilarious:

"The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their flagrant usage of fallacies of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles, one's hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday's defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I did not know what amazed me the more; the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods. I gradually came to hate them." - Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf - Chapter II)

Show me a source that mentions separating the wheat and chaff predating the Bible or just put a lid on it.

No worries, we both know there's none. :rofl

You have misquoted Hitler. He is not discussing religion in this passage as you would be aware if you had ever actually read the whole of Mein Kampf!:rolleyes:

Don`t give us that bullshit about the holy spirit lifting the veil from our eyes! The bible must be judged by the plain meaning of its text and that is exactly what we have done and are doing!

lol, sure thing. Except that in 1611 'prevent' meant 'to anticipate.'

You can't filter ancient scripture through modern eyes - it won't work.

Perhaps that's where your confusion over jew and Judean stems from?

...and there's your problem, son.

No, that`s my strength: I know the scriptures inside out which is more than can be said about you and one thing I have never done is distort the scriptures to justify an unxtian and degenerate drug habit like you do!

You have misquoted Hitler. He is not discussing religion in this passage as you would be aware if you had ever actually read the whole of Mein Kampf!:rolleyes:

No, he's discussing kikes that always claim "victory" even when discredited.

It's not hard to understand Christian Hitler's meaning in that statement. ;)

No, that`s my strength: I know the scriptures inside out which is more than can be said about you and one thing I have never done is distort the scriptures to justify an unxtian and degenerate drug habit like you do!

Correction - you know the scriptures from a judeo-brainwashed standpoint.

Again, that's your problem - 17 years of jew lies is certainly no "foundation."

I'm not surprised you'd allow imposters to remove you from the white man's God.

lol, sure thing. Except that in 1611 'prevent' meant 'to anticipate.'

You can't filter ancient scripture through modern eyes - it won't work.

Perhaps that's where your confusion over jew and Judean stems from?

I have already established many times on this forum from matthew chapter 1 and luke chapter 3 that jesus` lineage is traced back to the tribe of judah.
Are you calling the scriptures a lie?
If jesus be not from the tribe of judah then he does not fulfill the messianic prophecies of the old testament or revelation chapter 4 which means he was not who he says he was and that makes him both a liar and a fraud.
That`s quite a dilemma that you have there!;)

That`s quite a dilemma that you have there!;)

No dilemma at all - you claim Jesus never existed. Anything else you say or quote from scripture means nothing at all and makes you a hypocrite in the process.

But hey! Quoting sources you don't believe in seems to be your specialty.

;)

Correction - you know the scriptures from a judeo-brainwashed standpoint.

Again, that's your problem - 17 years of jew lies is certainly no "foundation."

I'm not surprised you'd allow imposters to remove you from the white man's God.

You do not know me. I have already told you that even at the tender age of 20, 27 years ago I studied the teachings of British israelism in depth and these are the same teachings that form the basis for modern day xtian identity and even then I could see through the specious arguments and see it as the tissue of lies that it is. No reputable bible scholar would give any validity to your outlandish views.
The god of Aryo-Germanic man is not your god of the bible but Wotan.

I was talking about Aryan Lord (I think) and anyone else that believes that the modern day "Jew" wrote the Bible or that Christ was a "Jew." Anyone making such statements clearly hasn't read the Bible or done their research.

Who do you think wrote this verse:


Romans 1:16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."
My guess, only the jews would script this.

Remember this as a rule of thumb:


'every piece of written material is - propaganda!'
All you have to do is discern who's propaganda it is and whats it for.

The Bible is pro-jewish propaganda and was written by the jews so that millions of plebs from Europe and America would die for ZION and the 'chosen people'.


You can say the same thing about the majority of Americans. They don't read but believe what they're told by the Jewtube.
Exactly!

The jews have moved from the old-fashioned mode of communication - the pulpit, to a new mode - the TV, but the core message is just the same - 'YANKS MUST DIE FOR ISRAEL'.

You have to study it a bit more, and learn to read between the lines.


Somewhere along the line someone calling themselves a Christian did you and "Aryan Lord" wrong and you two have been on a tear to destroy Christians since, imho. Nothing else can explain your anti Christian obsession.I had years of bible study when I was young, I could even recite the book of Matthew of by heart at one stage.

But like the propaganda spewed into my head by the education system, I have the brains to sort it all out and to see what the bible, education and the media really is - a load of propaganda.

Take the first part of what William Blake wisely stated -

"when we cleanse the doors of perception, we can see things as they really are - the infinite."


....and you'll really begin to see every trick in the book, and every trick not in the book.

ΚΑΤΑ ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 3:17

οὗ τὸ πτύον ἐν τῇ χειρὶ αὐτοῦ διακαθᾶραι τὴν ἅλωνα αὐτοῦ καὶ συναγαγεῖν τὸν
σῖτον εἰς τὴν ἀποθήκην αὐτοῦ, τὸ δὲ ἄχυρον κατακαύσει πυρὶ ἀσβέστῳ.
...
Tyndale New Testament
which hath his fan in his hand, and will purge his floor, and will gather his corn into his barn: And the chaff will he burn with fire that never shall be quenched.
...
Don't give me your "New Living Translation". No approximation to the phrasing it uses is to be found in the Greek, and it's use is thus strictly post facto. You might as well quote the Surfer's Bible and tell me that "hey dude" originates with Jesus.

As one who studies New Testament (Koine) Greek, I find Tyndale's translation to be the most intuitive, and am inclined to side with Sandor on this one.

No dilemma at all - you claim Jesus never existed. Anything else you say or quote from scripture means nothing at all and makes you a hypocrite in the process.

But hey! Quoting sources you don't believe in seems to be your specialty.

;)

Once again you avoid addressing the rather thorny and embarrassing issue of the gospels declaring the lineage of jesus to be of the tribe of judah.
Either you believe your own scriptures or you don`t? Why won`t you answer this simple question? What are you hiding from?:rolleyes:

Once again you avoid addressing the rather thorny and embarrassing issue of the gospels declaring the lineage of jesus to be of the tribe of judah.
Either you believe your own scriptures or you don`t? Why won`t you answer this simple question? What are you hiding from?:rolleyes:

Oh, you had a "question" there? I must've missed it. All I heard was you saying I was in a "dilemma" based on your strawman argument.

Where did I claim Christ wasn't of the tribe of Judah? :confused:

Once again you avoid addressing the rather thorny and embarrassing issue of the gospels declaring the lineage of jesus to be of the tribe of judah.
Either you believe your own scriptures or you don`t? Why won`t you answer this simple question? What are you hiding from?:rolleyes:

Sir,

Why are you shouting at Christians?

It is a rather well-known fact that the early Church, and by that I mean the Roman Church, well after it's founding - had been infiltrated by jews. That a terrible war within the Faith was fought, one side sans the jews; against the meddling of the jew in the rewriting of the Gospels [which had NOTHING to do with their torah or OT]; the other led by heretics whom favoured the jew. It was long and it was bloody. Attempt has been made to hide it from history - which is the doing of the juden.

That war is still being fought to this day; thanks to the jew hijacker.

Oh, you had a "question" there? I must've missed it. All I heard was you saying I was in a "dilemma" based on your strawman argument.

Where did I claim Christ wasn't of the tribe of Judah? :confused:

Finally, you admit that jesus was a jew! No we are getting somewhere!

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

Origins of the Words "Jew" and "Judaism"

The original name for the people we now call Jews was Hebrews. The word "Hebrew" (in Hebrew, "Ivri") is first used in the Torah to describe Abraham (Gen. 14:13). The word is apparently derived from the name Eber, one of Abraham's ancestors. Another tradition teaches that the word comes from the word "eyver," which means "the other side," referring to the fact that Abraham came from the other side of the Euphrates, or referring to the fact Abraham was separated from the other nations morally and spiritually.

Another name used for the people is Children of Israel or Israelites, which refers to the fact that the people are descendants of Jacob, who was also called Israel.

The word "Jew" (in Hebrew, "Yehudi") is derived from the name Judah, which was the name of one of Jacob's twelve sons. Judah was the ancestor of one of the tribes of Israel, which was named after him. Likewise, the word Judaism literally means "Judah-ism," that is, the religion of the Yehudim. Other sources, however, say that the word "Yehudim" means "People of G-d," because the first three letters of "Yehudah" are the same as the first three letters of G-d's four-letter name.

Originally, the term Yehudi referred specifically to members of the tribe of Judah, as distinguished from the other tribes of Israel. However, after the death of King Solomon, the nation of Israel was split into two kingdoms: the kingdom of Judah and the kingdom of Israel (I Kings 12; II Chronicles 10). After that time, the word Yehudi could properly be used to describe anyone from the kingdom of Judah, which included the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, as well as scattered settlements from other tribes. The most obvious biblical example of this usage is in Esther 2:5, where Mordecai is referred to as both a Yehudi and a member of the tribe of Benjamin.

In the 6th century B.C.E., the kingdom of Israel was conquered by Assyria and the ten tribes were exiled from the land (II Kings 17), leaving only the tribes in the kingdom of Judah remaining to carry on Abraham's heritage. These people of the kingdom of Judah were generally known to themselves and to other nations as Yehudim (Jews), and that name continues to be used today.

In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word "Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas. However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the Jewish community and outside of it, and is therefore used throughout this site.

Sir,

Why are you shouting at Christians?

It is a rather well-known fact that the early Church, and by that I mean the Roman Church, well after it's founding - had been infiltrated by jews. That a terrible war within the Faith was fought, one side sans the jews; against the meddling of the jew in the rewriting of the Gospels [which had NOTHING to do with their torah or OT]; the other led by heretics whom favoured the jew. It was long and it was bloody. Attempt has been made to hide it from history - which is the doing of the juden.

That war is still being fought to this day; thanks to the jew hijacker.

I am not shouting at xtians I am debating with them!

xtianity was forced upon the Aryan peoples by the point of the sword, fortunately they no longer have any power over us. I am simply asking some rather obvious questions here such as:

Why do xtians who claim to be racially aware acknowledge a jewish saviour and worship a jewish god?

And why do the aforesaid abandon the gods of their own blood and DNA to follow the god of our racial enemy?

It`s very simple really. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Finally, you admit that jesus was a jew! No we are getting somewhere!

No, I said He was "legally" Judaean through Joseph:

G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
(in the sense of G2455 as a country); Judaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - of Juda.

It's you claiming He was those He came against.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

Quoting the lying kikes over your white brethren? Very telling. :rolleyes:

Sir,

Why are you shouting at Christians?

It is a rather well-known fact that the early Church, and by that I mean the Roman Church, well after it's founding - had been infiltrated by jews. That a terrible war within the Faith was fought, one side sans the jews; against the meddling of the jew in the rewriting of the Gospels [which had NOTHING to do with their torah or OT]; the other led by heretics whom favoured the jew. It was long and it was bloody. Attempt has been made to hide it from history - which is the doing of the juden.

That war is still being fought to this day; thanks to the jew hijacker.

What about evangelical xTians ?

Evangelical xTians simply worship the ground a jew walks on, and yet, the evangelical movement is less than 60 years old.

Once one form of xInsanity has worn off, the jews then create another form of xInsanity....and so on and so on until they have got what they want.

xTians are tools and nothing more.

Once Israel has been safeguarded by the xTians destroying the muslims, then the jews will get rid of xInsanity and replace it with its more upto date incarnation - communism.

Anyway why dont you women be women, and keep your noses out of politics ?

Finally, you admit that jesus was a jew! No we are getting somewhere!

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm



Hmm, to my thinking that is not what PV is stating at all. Jesus was not a jew nor anything else. Being Divine and the Son of God makes him without ethnicity, which was, I believe the intent of God, no? Or, are you stating that God, the Divine Presence - whatever one would call Him, is Himself nothing more than the imaginings of that desert tribe's vile and vicious god whom THEY define; not the other way around.

Aryans do not presume to do such a thing with our God; nor is such presumption found in our pre-Christian and Pagan Faith.

[QUOTE]No, I said He was "legally" Judaean through Joseph:

G2453
Ἰουδαῖος
(in the sense of G2455 as a country); Judaean, that is, belonging to Jehudah: - of Juda.

It's you claiming He was those He came against.


joseph was his father was he not? And regardless of whether you consider whether joseph was his father his mother was also jewish and that is how the jews reckon jews is it not?
jesus came to bring salvation to all men of all races. He did not come to spread race-hate. He did however have a typical disrespect for Aryans as I have already demonstrated from your scriptures.

Quoting the lying kikes over your white brethren? Very telling. :rolleyes:


Who more qualified to define a jew than your elder brothers in the semitic faith the jews themselves?

Hmm, to my thinking that is not what PV is stating at all. Jesus was not a jew nor anything else. Being Divine and the Son of God makes him without ethnicity, which was, I believe the intent of God, no? Or, are you stating that God, the Divine Presence - whatever one would call Him, is Himself nothing more than the imaginings of that desert tribe's vile and vicious god whom THEY define; not the other way around.

Aryans do not presume to do such a thing with our God; nor is such presumption found in our pre-Christian and Pagan Faith.

EG what kind of god would choose to soil himself by incarnating as a jew?:rolleyes:

Do we as Aryans not have our own divine archetypes without resorting to middle-eastern ones?

EG what kind of god would choose to soil himself by incarnating as a jew?:rolleyes:

Do we as Aryans not have our own divine archetypes without resorting to middle-eastern ones?

Well, Friend, not any kind of Aryan Christian Faith - which would be that of God; not man, which is the domain of the jew and their god.

We do certainly have our own divine archetypes - especially found in Early Egypt - which was once Aryan domain. I believe it is there that the jew "invented" his god. As, well, many later Christian belief, ie, especially the legend of Isis and her Son Horus, from which Roman Catholicism evolved - which would quite possibly, without the later jew intervention and rewrite, make Christianity and Christ Himself, both Divine and Aryan in concept.

Well, Friend, not any kind of Aryan Christian Faith - which would be that of God; not man, which is the domain of the jew and their god.

We do certainly have our own divine archetypes - especially found in Early Egypt - which was once Aryan domain. I believe it is there that the jew "invented" his god. As, well, many later Christian belief, ie, especially the legend of Isis and her Son Horus, from which Roman Catholicism evolved - which would quite possibly, without the later jew intervention and rewrite, make Christianity and Christ Himself, both Divine and Aryan in concept.

Interesting. This post deserves some rep but you will have to wait a few days for it!;)

Show me a source that mentions separating the wheat and chaff
predating the Bible or just put a lid on it.

Everyone note how he subtly changes his request. Previously he was asking for a source which predates Matthew 3:12

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

which I provided from the Tanakh. Now he is pretending to have asked something altogether different. Well Mr Visser, the metaphor of the wheat and the chaff found in these texts is common to fertility cults of antiquity.

The winnowing fan of Isaiah, Matthew and Luke, for example, was a symbol of Dionysus, called Liknites, "he of the winnowing fan".

Further, there are indications, few but significant, that Dionysus was conceived as a deity of agriculture and the corn. He is spoken of as himself doing the work of a husbandman: he is reported to have been the first to yoke oxen to the plough, which before had been dragged by hand alone; and some people found in this tradition the clue to the bovine shape in which, as we shall see, the god was often supposed to present himself to his worshippers. Thus guiding the ploughshare and scattering the seed as he went, Dionysus is said to have eased the labour of the husbandman. Further, we are told that in the land of the Bisaltae, a Thracian tribe, there was a great and fair sanctuary of Dionysus, where at his festival a bright light shone forth at night as a token of an abundant harvest vouchsafed by the diety; but if the crops were to fail that year, the mystic light was not seen, darkness brooded over the sanctuary as at other times. Moreover, among the emblems of Dionysus was the winnowing-fan, that is the large open shovel-shaped basket, which down to modern times has been used by farmers to separate the grain from the chaff by tossing the corn in the air. This simple agricultural instrument figured in the mystic rites of Dionysus; indeed the god is traditionally said to have been placed at birth in a winnowing-fan as in a cradle: in art he is represented as an infant so cradled; and from these traditions and representations he derived the epithet of Liknites, that is, “He of the Winnowing-fan.”

Sir James Gordon Frazer - Golden Bough


Osiris is another example of such a deity.

How the beautified passed their time in the Kingdom of Osiris
may be seen from the pictures cut on the alabaster sarcophagus of
Seti I, now preserved in Sir John Soane's Museum in Lincoln's Inn
Fields. Here we see them occupied in producing the celestial food on
which they and the god lived. Some are tending the wheat plants as
they grow, and others are reaping the ripe grain. In the texts that
accompany these scenes the ears of wheat are said to be the "members
of Osiris," and the wheat plant is called the maat plant. Osiris was
the Wheat-god and also the personification of Maat (i.e., Truth), and
the beautified lived upon the body of their god and ate him daily,
and the substance of him was the "Bread of Everlastingness," which
is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead (The Papyrus of Ani), translate dby E. A. Wallis Budge

In other words, the members of Osiris are the ears of wheat, the ears of the maat plant.

These are they who offered up incense to the gods, and whose kau or "doubles have been washed clean, whose iniquities have been done away, and who were right in the judgement." Therefore has Osiris decreed them to be "Maat of Maat," i.e., most "righteous," and he has given them a place of abode in his own presence with peace and the food of Maat thereon to live (vol. ii., pp. 177, .186).

E. A. Wallis Budge - The Egyptian Heaven and Hell


The righteous are therefore represented by wheat.

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner;

To the left of the path of AFU-Ra are twelve gods, each of whom is tending a colossal ear of wheat, and twelve gods provided with sickles, engaged in reaping. The ears of wheat here growing are the "members of Osiris," (hat Sar), that is, they are regarded as parts of the god's own body, 1 and the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Osiris and human beings on earth alike ate the body of the god when they ate bread of wheat.

E. A. Wallis Budge - The Egyptian Heaven and Hell


but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire

There is a good deal more evidence that in Egypt the slain corn-spirit—the dead Osiris—was represented by a human victim, whom the reapers slew on the harvest-field, mourning his death in a dirge, to which the Greeks, through a verbal misunderstanding, gave the name of Maneros. For the legend of Busiris seems to preserve a reminiscence of human sacrifices once offered by the Egyptians in connexion with the worship of Osiris ...

The human sacrifice were said to have been offered at his grave, and the victims were red-haired men, whose ashes were scattered abroad by means of winnowing-fans. This tradition of human sacrifices offered at the tomb of Osiris is confirmed by the evidence of the monuments.

Sir James Gordon Frazer - Golden Bough

The defiant warrior spirit is the genuine Aryan spirit. I realise that you would much rather kneel down at the foot of the cross and reflect upon your sins whilst the men get on with the work of cleansing our race!:rolleyes:

genuine or not. What good does it do? You are insensitive which makes you tactless.

Kneel in front of crosses, etc? Hyperbole. Stop fabricating nonsense.


What xtian type situation?
:confused:


That was then-this is now! I don`t know what continent you live on but here in Europe xtianity died a natural death quite a while ago!

quite a while ago? When you stopped being a bible believing fundamentalist 17 years ago?
lots of people think of themselves as christian in outlook even if they aren't church goers, we are the same people as in hitlers time.


You have contradicted yourself in the very same post. Either I am a defiant warrior or I am a stiff necked bore. Which am I?:rolleyes:

you are disengenuous when it suits you.

I said what good does your defiant warrior spirit do.
If you are the person you portray yourself as why are you not infamous, a notorious danger to jewish democracy?

And this infighting is getting ye where? Believe what thou whilst, it is thine own problem...

All the churches I have seen have multicultural goals. the church is in with the jews and are trying to kill our people. so you tell me, how does the church help our people when they work to kill us and make us breed with niggers?

Why you support the evil that seeks to kill your people?

All the churches I have seen have multicultural goals. the church is in with the jews and are trying to kill our people. so you tell me, how does the church help our people when they work to kill us and make us breed with niggers?

Why you support the evil that seeks to kill your people?


True enough. That Christianity was long ago overtaken and run by jews is not reason enough to castigate the White Christians of this board; even those that are Catholic. They are here and are aware and perhaps they do not so much as support the Evil that infects their various denominations as they would take their Faith back.

Why would you oppose any White Christian the desire to rid the Faith of jew influence? Imagine, Christianity without that influence.

[the argument that Christ was a jew is irrelevant to the debate, as I have stated earlier; since He was not and cannot be. His Mother was not a jewess; certainly that desert god whom the jews worship was not his Father either, nor was any Roman soldier, Joseph and ect - that argues FOR the jew, it was created by the jew. Would you use a jew's argument against Our People in the Faith?]

Hatred of God or the gods of Our People is not the way to go about changing the mind of any one of them. It does not change mine, at least, to your way of thinking.