Log in

View Full Version : Ron Paul: Race Traitor


Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 10:38 AM
http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/38881/2002487171513049131_fs.jpg

Ron Paul wants us all to be "individuals" in a multi-cultural society without a sense of racial identity because "bigotry is a sin".

Government and Racism by Ron Paul

The controversy surrounding remarks by talk show host Don Imus shows that the nation remains incredibly sensitive about matters of race, despite the outward progress of the last 40 years. A nation that once prided itself on a sense of rugged individualism has become uncomfortably obsessed with racial group identities.

The young women on the basketball team Mr. Imus insulted are over 18 and can speak for themselves. It’s disconcerting to see third parties become involved and presume to speak collectively for minority groups. It is precisely this collectivist mindset that is at the heart of racism.

It’s also disconcerting to hear the subtle or not-so-subtle threats against free speech. Since the FCC regulates airwaves and grants broadcast licenses, we’re told it’s proper for government to forbid certain kinds of insulting or offensive speech in the name of racial and social tolerance. Never mind the 1st Amendment, which states unequivocally that, “Congress shall make NO law.”

Let’s be perfectly clear: the federal government has no business regulating speech in any way. Furthermore, government as an institution is particularly ill-suited to combating bigotry in our society. Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart, and we can’t change people’s hearts by passing more laws and regulations.

In fact it is the federal government more than anything else that divides us along race, class, religion, and gender lines. Government, through its taxes, restrictive regulations, corporate subsidies, racial set-asides, and welfare programs, plays far too large a role in determining who succeeds and who fails in our society. This government "benevolence" crowds out genuine goodwill between men by institutionalizing group thinking, thus making each group suspicious that others are receiving more of the government loot. This leads to resentment and hostility between us.

The political left argues that stringent federal laws are needed to combat racism, even as they advocate incredibly divisive collectivist policies.

Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called "diversity" actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market (jewish) capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.

More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct our sins, we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul381.html

Pretty much says the same thing here. More "liberty" regardless of what race you are, typical conservative libertarian gobbeldy-gook:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul68.html

Kievsky
December 24th, 2007, 10:40 AM
He's saying that we have a right to be racists. A "sin of the heart" is no big deal. It's for each of us to judge.

Ron Paul is no race traitor! That's ridiculous!

Vox Populae
December 24th, 2007, 11:44 AM
He's saying that we have a right to be racists. A "sin of the heart" is no big deal. It's for each of us to judge.

Ron Paul is no race traitor! That's ridiculous!

Agree 100% - he has to appeal to a wide base. If anyone is looking for Adolf Hitler in him, you're not going to find it, not to mention wrong century. I don't want an Adolf Hilter, I want an American President that cares 100% about America. It's time to move forward. He's the ONLY hope this country has of getting back on its feet.

Donnachaidh
December 24th, 2007, 12:56 PM
Ah, another assinine thread meant to divide and dilute the efforts of those here genuinely trying to accomplish something positive.

Oprichniki
December 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Worse is not better. Better is better. And this is the only good choice we have to start turning things around. If you want to go beat off to a picture of Hitler feel free, but the rest of us have to live in reality.

ernst blofeld
December 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM
What I don't get is that for years VNN has attacked Libertarianism as harmful to Whites. I well remember all the vitriol spouted against Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, and Sam Francis because they weren't racist enough and refused to openly name the Jew. Now we're supposed to be gung ho about electing a man who mocks most of what we stand for.
Is Ron Paul going to do away with the Jew media which is killing us?
No, he doesn't even recognize that Jews act in their collective self interest.
Is Ron Paul going to fight against the predatory form of capitalism that has taken over this country and looks upon people as replaceable consumers?

At best Ron Paul would secure our 2nd Amendment a while longer, something Bush jr. hasn't even violated.

Joe Snuffy
December 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM
I don't care about getting America back on its feet, what I want is for Ron Paul to provide the conditions for us to build White communities with our own businesses and schools. We could do very well under these conditions and start amassing great wealth to expand.

If Ron Paul really thinks that his small government and freedom will bring people of different races together and prosperity for all he is truly loony. Niggers will immediately fall into starvation and begin rioting when the welfare is cut off. Little Afreekas will pop up everywhere niggers congregate. That is why our communities must be private and not just some part of a city otherwise niggers will just walk in.

Alexei Losonov
December 24th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Libertarianism is of no harm to the white race, though when dealing with trading partners that manipulate their markets, tariffs must be levied or we shall be bankrupted.

The onus would merely be upon us to exercise sensibly these liberties that are so self-evident.

White Will
December 24th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Ah, another assinine thread meant to divide and dilute the efforts of those here genuinely trying to accomplish something positive.

I stand to vigorously object to the subversive Subject title to this thread, especially in General Discussion.

I object to the thread title that challenges those of us who do not worship the Jew's tribal god as "fuck faces," as well.

Why should we want to point regular White people who have no idea that there even are exceptional people trying to fight for their race's interests, these folks who are just now being awaked to Dr. Paul's message of liberty -- why would we want to point them to a site that hates Ron Paul and see's nothing but constant squabbling among the Xlings and the biological race-fighters?

To Opposition!

This Dirk Dork Duck has been on my Ignore list for days, BTW.

Alex Linder
December 24th, 2007, 02:02 PM
What I don't get is that for years VNN has attacked Libertarianism as harmful to Whites. I well remember all the vitriol spouted against Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, and Sam Francis because they weren't racist enough and refused to openly name the Jew. Now we're supposed to be gung ho about electing a man who mocks most of what we stand for.
Is Ron Paul going to do away with the Jew media which is killing us?
No, he doesn't even recognize that Jews act in their collective self interest.
Is Ron Paul going to fight against the predatory form of capitalism that has taken over this country and looks upon people as replaceable consumers?

At best Ron Paul would secure our 2nd Amendment a while longer, something Bush jr. hasn't even violated.

Come, come. Is this really hard to understand. No, it is not.

I will explain again.

Sam Francis, or Canny Sammy as he's more accurately described, and Patsycake Buchanan are scored by me and us because they hold themselves out as analysts, yet the refuse to name the jew responsible for the social decline they bemoan. They are doctors who refuse to render diagnosis, thereby making themselves quacks.

Ron Paul is in the game. He is no kibbitzer, he's a player. Ron Paul is principled. He is no hinter, no winker, like Messrs Canny and Patsy.

One of Ron Paul's principles is freedom of association. Were this restored, Whites would then have the legal freedom to protect themselves. Ron Paul's campaign for this reason alone - Paul's support for free association - is worth supporting, and VNNF does.

That said, in no way do we fool ourselves that he is one of us on either the racial or the jewish question. My personal view is that Paul knows the truth about race, but thinks it better to lie. However, he has acted consistent with his beliefs on every other matter, so he may truly not be what is crudely smeared 'racist.' My guess is that, as an intellectual, he understands that the Founders were racists, and sees clearly that 'liberated' blacks and mexes is a recipe for discord and decay.

Alex Linder
December 24th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Ron Paul, canting:

Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart

Bigotry is when you judge something and refuse to let reality's evidence interfere with your prejudice. Desire to separate, politically, from coloreds, is the farthest thing from bigotry, rather it is rational discrimination; it is thought - reasoned and acted upon.

Ron Paul is canting when he speaks of race. The movement he heads is racial whether he likes it or not, whether he realizes it or not. The very concept of freedom was given birth to and made real by White men, and White men only. The libertarian's attempt to separate freedom from Whiteness is as absurd celebrating apple juice while denying the apple it was squeezed from.

Alex Linder
December 24th, 2007, 02:13 PM
In every other instance, libertarians pride themselves on detailed, factually correct, historically exampled proofs of claim. Except when it comes to freedom. Freedom to the libertarian is carefully decontextualized and made abstract. This is the dirty jewy heart and dark secret rottenness of libertarianism.

Hatebreed88
December 24th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Ron Paul wouldn't have used your money to bus black kids to white areas in the 60s. Ron Paul wouldn't use your tax dollars to institute programs designed to spread "diversity". Ron Paul has stated many times that forced intergration and government "diversity" programs is the cause of almost all racial problems in this country.

Ron Paul is smart enough to realize that it is natural to self segerate, and that the governments involvement in trying to stop that will only end in failure.

So no, I dont think Ron Paul is a race traitor you dip shit.

http://trailblazers.beloblog.com/archives/ron%20paul%20and%20family%20straw%20poll.JPG
YouTube - Season's Greetings from the Ron Paul Family

Yep, look at those healthy children, and those pretty white grand-daughters of his. Quite the traitor huh?:rolleyes:

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 03:55 PM
So no, I dont think Ron Paul is a race traitor you dip shit.

I don't think you're a racist, punk who named himself after an anti-racist hardcore band.

And I KNOW Ron Paul isn't a racist... only lemmings would support the anti-racist krypto-kike fence-riding piece of shit known as "Ron Paul".

Hatebreed88
December 24th, 2007, 04:01 PM
I don't think you're a racist, punk who named himself after an anti-racist hardcore band.

And I KNOW Ron Paul isn't a racist... only lemmings would support the anti-racist krypto-kike fence-riding piece of shit known as "Ron Paul".

Your a fag, and you are vastly outnumbered on this board by people who think exactly the same as me. Personally I think you are nothing more than a troll. Probably some pissed of little kike bitch or whatever so you get your kicks by comming on VNN, acting like a net-nazi just to attack Ron Paul.

How many white kids do you have, how many white grandchildren do you have. Have you raised 6.1 million dollars in 1 day, the same day VNN also raised well over 2,000 dollars for Ron Paul?

Oh, you havent. Well then looks like you need to shut the fuck up.

Scarecrow
December 24th, 2007, 04:06 PM
This "Dirk" is an Agent Provocateur. Nothing more. Ignore. Full stop.

Carry On.

Hatebreed88
December 24th, 2007, 04:07 PM
This "Dirk" is an Agent Provocateur. Nothing more. Ignore. Full stop.

Carry On.

95% of his posts are about Ron Paul and attacking Paul supporters. This guy is a douche.

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Ah, another assinine thread meant to divide and dilute the efforts of those here genuinely trying to accomplish something positive.

Ron Paul's the one who wants to divide you, divide all Whites into "individual" consumers with no sense of racial community.

Hatebreed88
December 24th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Ron Paul's the one who wants to divide you, divide all Whites into "individual" consumers with no sense of racial community.

Yes because thats not already a reality is it? And by ending federal funding of forced busing, school vouchers, welfare, the civil rights act, support to israel, having a fenced and closed border, and ending citizenship birthrights to illegals (all which Ron Paul wants to do) would not help end said situation at all would it?

cillian
December 24th, 2007, 04:38 PM
Ron Paul's the one who wants to divide you, divide all Whites into "individual" consumers with no sense of racial community.

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence - not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.

this means, no more affirmative action. it does not mean he is going after white collectivism

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 05:00 PM
95% of his posts are about Ron Paul and attacking Paul supporters. This guy is a douche.

95% of Paul's supporters, and 'kwans... are anti-racist. So labeling him a race-traitor should most certainly enhance his chance of victory, wouldn't it?

Get your head out of your ass, dumbshit.

Hatebreed88
December 24th, 2007, 05:01 PM
95% of Paul's supporters, and 'kwans... are anti-racist. So labeling him a race-traitor should most certainly enhance his chance of victory, wouldn't it?

Get your head out of your ass, dumbshit.

Whatever, im done with you. Not one person who has responded to this thread has agreed with you.

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Yes because thats not already a reality is it? And by ending federal funding of forced busing, school vouchers, welfare, the civil rights act, support to israel, having a fenced and closed border, and ending citizenship birthrights to illegals (all which Ron Paul wants to do) would not help end said situation at all would it?

I'm all for forced bussing, segregationist bussing, if it separates White students from feral negro beasts.

In Ron Paul's America this will never happen.

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 05:03 PM
Go eat some pork Jew.

"negrep", LOL. T.J.B.

William Burcker
December 24th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Dirk. You need to shut the fuck up before I make you regret it.
I am not sure which jew you are, but I have not doubt that you are one.

If you are not careful, I will snap my fingers and end you.
You are an absolute disgrace to us here.
How could you possibly listen to everything that Todd and Mark talked about and say the disgustingly erroneous things that you say about Ron Paul?

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 05:07 PM
Dirk. You need to shut the fuck up before I make you regret it.
I am not sure which jew you are, but I have not doubt that you are one.

If you are not careful, I will snap my fingers and end you.
You are an absolute disgrace to us here.
How could you possibly listen to everything that Todd and Mark talked about and say the disgustingly erroneous things that you say about Ron Paul?

Don't you have some klingons to beam up, jean-luc? Make it so.

William Burcker
December 24th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Don't you have some klingons to beam up, jean-luc? Make it so.

T.J.B.

This avatar is in reference to a FreeTalkLife show where it was mentioned that the "Kennewick Man"'s reconstruction looks remarkably similar to this actor. And the actor is without a doubt White.

Besides, wouldn't it be more relavant to stick to the topic of Ron Paul instead of foolishly attacking my avatar, which is imbued with an extensive amount of meaning?

Of course it would. But, you don't care about relevance. You care about stirring shit, and smeaing...this is because you are a fucking :[]

cillian
December 24th, 2007, 05:13 PM
T.J.B.

This avatar is in reference to a FreeTalkLife show where it was mentioned that the "Kennewick Man"'s reconstruction looks remarkably similar to this actor. And the actor is without a doubt White.

Besides, wouldn't it be more relavant to stick to the topic of Ron Paul instead of foolishly attacking my avatar, which is imbued with an extensive amount of meaning?

Of course it would. But, you don't care about relevance. You care about stirring shit, and smeaing...this is because you are a fucking :[]

i think your avatar is quite clever, but thats because i actually listen to ftl...

Mishko Novosel
December 24th, 2007, 05:14 PM
Calling Ron Paul a traitor is like calling Al Sharpton a white man. Now go fuck off....

varg
December 24th, 2007, 05:25 PM
moved to nutzpah.. Ron Paul isnt a race traitor.. bullshit.

he has a White family.. is responsible for bringing many White babies into the world, and has a track record of voting for many of the things WN's want.

He's accomplished more for Whites than you ever have-- whoever the hell you are "dirk"..

Dirk is just here to disrupt

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 05:38 PM
moved to nutzpah.. Ron Paul isnt a race traitor.. bullshit.

he has a White family.. is responsible for bringing many White babies into the world, and has a track record of voting for many of the things WN's want.

He's accomplished more for Whites than you ever have-- whoever the hell you are "dirk"..

Dirk is just here to disrupt

Yet he says:

Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart

Which means he thinks you, and I, and all racists, will be roasting in his imaginary xian underworld in the afterlife.

Disrupt? No. Are you saying I shouldn't refute the delusional concept that ron paul somehow stands for White Rights? He doesn't.

Just because he's a fiscal conservative, I'm supposed to join in the ron paul circle jerk session. No, I refuse to.

White Will
December 24th, 2007, 05:42 PM
moved to nutzpah.. Ron Paul isnt a race traitor.. bullshit.

he has a White family.. is responsible for bringing many White babies into the world, and has a track record of voting for many of the things WN's want.

He's accomplished more for Whites than you ever have-- whoever the hell you are "dirk"..

Dirk is just here to disrupt

Thank you varg. I don't see Dirk's posts, unless quoted in another's. All I see is a near consensus of opposition to whatever Dork is saying about Ron Paul being a "Race Traitor." These VNNers are not "Nutz."

SUGGESTION: Wouldn't a more proper place for Dork's anti-Paul thread be in Opposing Views where disruptive antis like Dork are welcome to debate the best of us to see why, "no, we can't all just get along?" ASSWIPErs are disruptive antis. Just look at this thread.

Dirk
December 24th, 2007, 10:37 PM
Thank you varg. I don't see Dirk's posts, unless quoted in another's. All I see is a near consensus of opposition to whatever Dork is saying about Ron Paul being a "Race Traitor." These VNNers are not "Nutz."

SUGGESTION: Wouldn't a more proper place for Dork's anti-Paul thread be in Opposing Views where disruptive antis like Dork are welcome to debate the best of us to see why, "no, we can't all just get along?" ASSWIPErs are disruptive antis. Just look at this thread.

Bullshit, you've been reading my posts and you know exactly what this thread is about. The fact is that ron paul, your anti-racist saviour, is a dyed-in-the-wool, true blue, adam smith "greed is good" capitalist pos, and you can't reconcile this with your folkish idealogy.

Starr
December 24th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Dirk, do you think anyone here believes Ron Paul to be a racist? Why post these things as if anyone is going to be shocked?

PC}{Magician
December 24th, 2007, 11:35 PM
Dirk, I would call YOU a race traitor but judging by your posts I do not believe you to be White, so I'll just all you an idiot instead......:rofl:rofl

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 12:15 AM
Dirk, I would call YOU a race traitor but judging by your posts I do not believe you to be White, so I'll just all you an idiot instead......:rofl:rofl

I'm 100% White European, you're a lemming who supports race-traitor ron paul who hates racially aware White people.

varg
December 25th, 2007, 12:27 AM
How does 'not being racist' make you a race traitor? were you a race traitor before you became racially aware? if your parents arent racist are they 'race traitors' as well?

unless they do something specifically harmful for whites i dont see how calling them a race traitor is accurate

Alexei Losonov
December 25th, 2007, 12:37 AM
Quite frankly, yes. Look at the ron paul circle jerk currently in progress. These people think he's some kind of covert racist, just waiting to spring out of his sheep's clothing. Either that, or they think his libertarian laissez-faire adam smith "greed is good" capitalist agenda will somehow benefit Whites.

Anyone who is in favor of free association, i.e. the right not to do business with niggers, would be a good thing. Laissez-faire, in fact, will benefit whites provided the other party is a free-trader, how would it not? You have not made clear your agenda nor what you would propose in lieu of Paul's platform.

Subrosa
December 25th, 2007, 12:40 AM
Quite frankly, yes. Look at the ron paul circle jerk currently in progress. These people think he's some kind of covert racist, just waiting to spring out of his sheep's clothing. Either that, or they think his libertarian laissez-faire adam smith "greed is good" capitalist agenda will somehow benefit Whites.

Quote one post where anyone has said Paul is a closet racist.

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 12:43 AM
How does 'not being racist' make you a race traitor? were you a race traitor before you became racially aware? if your parents arent racist are they 'race traitors' as well?

unless they do something specifically harmful for whites i dont see how calling them a race traitor is accurate

Ron Paul goes beyond being neutral and says:

Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart

Do I need to post the lew rockwell article again for you to get the message? Ron Paul hates racists and thinks they should burn in hell.

But he has no problem taking their money.

Varg, why are my threads being moved to some secret nutzpah sub-forum? Linder posted on this thread before you, wouldn't he have moved my threads if he felt it was necessary?

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 12:51 AM
Anyone who is in favor of free association, i.e. the right not to do business with niggers, would be a good thing. Laissez-faire, in fact, will benefit whites provided the other party is a free-trader, how would it not? You have not made clear your agenda nor what you would propose in lieu of Paul's platform.

Yes, and that system has worked so well for Whites, hasn't it?

Importing cheap labor, nigger slaves and mexican banditos who eventually become "integrated" into White society, that was such a wonderful idea!

Mike Mazzone of Palatine
December 25th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Ron Paul goes beyond being neutral and says:

Quote:
Bigotry at its essence is a sin of the heart
The "anti-racists" are the true bigots. It's bigotry to demand that whites deny our racial identity whilst non-whites are encouraged to have racial identity.

Todd in FL
December 25th, 2007, 01:21 AM
Quite frankly, yes. Look at the ron paul circle jerk currently in progress. These people think he's some kind of covert racist, just waiting to spring out of his sheep's clothing. Either that, or they think his libertarian laissez-faire adam smith "greed is good" capitalist agenda will somehow benefit Whites.

You cannot factually say that libertarians are LAISSEZ-FAIRE CAPITALIST. Fact is, NAFTA and GATT are examples of capitalism unfettered. Ron Paul wants to end that.

Dirk has no idea of what he is talking about. No facts whatsoever.

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 01:24 AM
You cannot factually say that libertarians are LAISSEZ-FAIRE CAPITALIST. Fact is, NAFTA and GATT are examples of capitalism unfettered. Ron Paul wants to end that.

Dirk has no idea of what he is talking about. No facts whatsoever.

Economics 101. You flunked it.

Libertarianism is the ultimate embodiment of laissez-faire capitalism, meaning:

- no corporate taxes

- no labor unions

- no tariffs for foreign imports

- no regulatory labor laws

- more exporting of jobs

- more importing of foreign labor

- less benefits for workers, like health care

But I'm a White American National Socialist, I don't believe in outdated concepts like smithsonian "hands off" economics and isolationism.

Todd in FL
December 25th, 2007, 01:25 AM
Neg rep party at Dirk's place.

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 01:34 AM
Neg rep party at Dirk's place.

Yeah, it sucks when you can't defend your position, doesn't it?

Todd in FL
December 25th, 2007, 01:35 AM
Yeah, it sucks when you can't defend your position, doesn't it?

What does it matter when you're defending it against someone who talks in circles?

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 01:41 AM
What does it matter when you're defending it against someone who talks in circles?

The only circular logic here is the one being used by Dr. Ron Race-Traitor Paul supporters.

Alexei Losonov
December 25th, 2007, 01:44 AM
Yes, and that system has worked so well for Whites, hasn't it?

Importing cheap labor, nigger slaves and mexican banditos who eventually become "integrated" into White society, that was such a wonderful idea!

In a free market, the more efficient workers will make more, as would the more-skilled workers. Niggers have an average IQ of 65, spics in the low-mid 80s, so in a free market, guess what most of them would wind up doing? A few would find low-paying labor, the smart ones (higher than +2 standard deviations) would *maybe* assimilate into moderate-skilled trades, and the rest will not be able to survive and either perish or return from whence they came.

Rather, the interference with this i.e. welfare, not enforcing our own immigration laws, &c is the cause of the trouble methinks. Free trade has served civilizations well for many centuries, interference heralds the decline.

Let's look at it this way, bub: I'm a free trader, I'm going to be trading free, hoarding my precious metals and acting in my enlightened self-interest. I also have a gun, so this will not be changing anytime soon. 聽懂嗎? (capiche?)

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 01:48 AM
In a free market, the more efficient workers will make more, as would the more-skilled workers. Niggers have an average IQ of 65, spics in the low-mid 80s, so in a free market, guess what most of them would wind up doing? A few would find low-paying labor, the smart ones (higher than +2 standard deviations) would *maybe* assimilate into moderate-skilled trades, and the rest will not be able to survive and either perish or return from whence they came.

Rather, the interference with this i.e. welfare, not enforcing our own immigration laws, &c is the cause of the trouble methinks. Free trade has served civilizations well for many centuries, interference heralds the decline.

Let's look at it this way, bub: I'm a free trader, I'm going to be trading free, hoarding my precious metals and acting in my enlightened self-interest. I also have a gun, so this will not be changing anytime soon. 聽懂嗎? (capiche?)

More attempts to defend smithsonian laissez-faire capitalism which has proven to be the cause of genocidal White civil wars and the eventual demise of European folkish identity.

Go peddle your Mahanist imperialism somewhere else, crypto-jew.

Phil_88
December 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM
More attempts to defend smithsonian laissez-faire capitalism which has proven to be the cause of genocidal White civil wars and the eventual demise of European folkish identity.

Go peddle your Mahanist imperialism somewhere else, crypto-jew.

Nah hes not a jew. Hes a pretty good guy.

Alexei Losonov
December 25th, 2007, 02:21 AM
More attempts to defend smithsonian laissez-faire capitalism which has proven to be the cause of genocidal White civil wars and the eventual demise of European folkish identity.

Go peddle your Mahanist imperialism somewhere else, crypto-jew.

Jewish trickery causes these things, blind nationalism enables them. Remember when the Rothschilds spread the false news of Napoleon's (alleged) victory and brought up most of the English stocks at pennies on the dollar?

Three rights I find self-evident, they are life, liberty, and property. I do not consider them surrendered unless in the context of a minimarchist social contract, and barring those few, I consider them still in place. The state has no claim on my life, and if they try to put a claim on there through a draft, I will have a claim on that of whom they use to claim it. As the old hippie saying went: what if they threw a war and no one came? We do not *want* to fight, but can be tricked into it, and that is through nationalism, leaving us open to jewish trickery.

If nothing else, Smithsonian free-trade is a peace-enabler: goods cannot cross borders in war-time, resources once diverted toward factory machinery and consumer goods get diverted to munitions, and it is done so at the expense of the tax-payer, dampening the economy. If I make, for instance, toys, I can likely sell them at something much better than puny 'cost-plus-ten-percent', who can do business on those margins?! Whoever said that which is good in war is good in peace has never run a business.

Free markets are as precious as liberty itself and should be held in similar regard.

Dirk
December 25th, 2007, 03:00 AM
Jewish trickery causes these things, blind nationalism enables them. Remember when the Rothschilds spread the false news of Napoleon's (alleged) victory and brought up most of the English stocks at pennies on the dollar?

Three rights I find self-evident, they are life, liberty, and property. I do not consider them surrendered unless in the context of a minimarchist social contract, and barring those few, I consider them still in place. The state has no claim on my life, and if they try to put a claim on there through a draft, I will have a claim on that of whom they use to claim it. As the old hippie saying went: what if they threw a war and no one came? We do not *want* to fight, but can be tricked into it, and that is through nationalism, leaving us open to jewish trickery.

If nothing else, Smithsonian free-trade is a peace-enabler: goods cannot cross borders in war-time, resources once diverted toward factory machinery and consumer goods get diverted to munitions, and it is done so at the expense of the tax-payer, dampening the economy. If I make, for instance, toys, I can likely sell them at something much better than puny 'cost-plus-ten-percent', who can do business on those margins?! Whoever said that which is good in war is good in peace has never run a business.

Free markets are as precious as liberty itself and should be held in similar regard.

Still clinging to those old Enlightenment values, "liberty, equality, fraternity"?

Give it a rest Rousseau, the social contract is null and void. jews voided it.

Alexei Losonov
December 25th, 2007, 04:07 AM
Still clinging to those old Enlightenment values, "liberty, equality, fraternity"?

Give it a rest Rousseau, the social contract is null and void. jews voided it.

They violated it, not voided it. Thou dost seek to pilfer my wages, seize my savings* and impose collectivism, I find this insidious, and I would resist thee to my death. μολὼν λαβέ, ὦ ὅνε (http://www.websters-dictionary-online.org/translation/Old+Greek/%25CF%258C%25CE%25BD%25CE%25BF%25CF%2582):p

*(possession of more than 5 grams of gold was an economic crime under the Reich (http://www.cgb.fr/or/or_detenir.html))
Rappelons tout d'abord que, durant l'occupation, la détention de plus de cinq grammes d'or par personne (une alliance de taille moyenne) était un crime économique contre le Reich et pouvait conduire en camp de concentration.

Dirk
December 27th, 2007, 05:29 AM
How does 'not being racist' make you a race traitor? were you a race traitor before you became racially aware? if your parents arent racist are they 'race traitors' as well?

Apparently he was racist, or is racist, or can't make up his mind. This is was in one of his newsletters from the '90s. He now disavows making any such statement in his own distributed newsletter.


Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the "criminal justice system," I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Perhaps the L.A. experience should not be surprising. The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.The looting in L.A. was the welfare state without the voting booth. The elite have sent one message to black America for 30 years: you are entitled to something for nothing. That's what blacks got on the streets of L.A. for three days in April. Only they didn't ask their Congressmen to arrange the transfer.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

Dirk
December 27th, 2007, 06:01 AM
They violated it, not voided it. Thou dost seek to pilfer my wages, seize my savings* and impose collectivism, I find this insidious, and I would resist thee to my death. μολὼν λαβέ, ὦ ὅνε (http://www.websters-dictionary-online.org/translation/Old+Greek/%25CF%258C%25CE%25BD%25CE%25BF%25CF%2582):p

*(possession of more than 5 grams of gold was an economic crime under the Reich (http://www.cgb.fr/or/or_detenir.html))

A government is responsible for the welfare of the citizens and therefore must levy taxes to provide for defense, roads, public services, etc. Its a vital part of operating a modern industrial nation-state. Libertarianism is an outdated, agrarian-based economic system. If libertarianism is what you want, then have fun tilling your potato patch like a serf from the middle ages.

Jews made welfare into a bad word. Citizens have the right to expect the government to promote their welfare and not in the form of handouts, but in the form of a well regulated economy where jews and slave traders aren't allowed to run wild and corporations aren't allowed to spend billions on lobbyists to influence the government. Corporate lobbyists and special interest groups (AIPAC) flourish under unregulated free market capitalism.

Jim Crowe
December 27th, 2007, 06:09 AM
It would be dumb for Paul to come out say he's for racism. It should be enough that he's against the 1964 Civil Rights Bill, which by itself destroyed White America.

Freedom of association is a libertarian belief, and that will go far to help whites form their own communities.

Perhaps the biggest problem I've had with libertarianism is the open borders thing, but Paul has stated that he's against illegal immigration.

Dirk
December 27th, 2007, 06:28 AM
Jewish trickery causes these things, blind nationalism enables them. Remember when the Rothschilds spread the false news of Napoleon's (alleged) victory and brought up most of the English stocks at pennies on the dollar?

Three rights I find self-evident, they are life, liberty, and property. I do not consider them surrendered unless in the context of a minimarchist social contract, and barring those few, I consider them still in place. The state has no claim on my life, and if they try to put a claim on there through a draft, I will have a claim on that of whom they use to claim it. As the old hippie saying went: what if they threw a war and no one came? We do not *want* to fight, but can be tricked into it, and that is through nationalism, leaving us open to jewish trickery.

If nothing else, Smithsonian free-trade is a peace-enabler: goods cannot cross borders in war-time, resources once diverted toward factory machinery and consumer goods get diverted to munitions, and it is done so at the expense of the tax-payer, dampening the economy. If I make, for instance, toys, I can likely sell them at something much better than puny 'cost-plus-ten-percent', who can do business on those margins?! Whoever said that which is good in war is good in peace has never run a business.

Free markets are as precious as liberty itself and should be held in similar regard.

When the Soviet Union fell, what did capitalism do for Russia? After Putin nationalized the Russian energy industry, the annual income of the average Russian citizen doubled.

Russian business is booming because Putin took the nation's resources away from the jewish oligarchs and put them into the hands of the people.

public ownership, government ownership of lands, streets, public buildings, utilities, and other business enterprises. The theory that all land and its resources belong ultimately to the people and therefore to the government is very ancient. From it comes the doctrine of eminent domain, asserting that the state has ultimate control over lands and buildings within its borders. Until the policy of laissez faire in the 18th cent. emphasized capitalistic activity, public ownership was unquestioned.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Nationalized+industry

Alexei Losonov
December 27th, 2007, 06:49 AM
A government is responsible for the welfare of the citizens and therefore must levy taxes to provide for defense, roads, public services, etc. Its a vital part of operating a modern industrial nation-state. Libertarianism is an outdated, agrarian-based economic system. If libertarianism is what you want, then have fun tilling your potato patch like a serf from the middle ages.

Jews made welfare into a bad word. Citizens have the right to expect the government to promote their welfare and not in the form of handouts, but in the form of a well regulated economy where jews and slave traders aren't allowed to run wild and corporations aren't allowed to spend billions on lobbyists to influence the government. Corporate lobbyists and special interest groups (AIPAC) flourish under unregulated free market capitalism.

That is where we differ. Government has no place in the business of its citizenry. Instead, its function is as a nigh-watchman in a village.

This modern industrial nation-state did OK without the levying of income tax until 1913, that is how nearly half the world's wealth wound up in such a small segment of the population. There was little in terms of welfare before then.

By the way, the system which you advocate is serfdom. You want me to till potato-patches or work in your widget factories, surrender to you a sizable chunk so you can skim off the top and maybe feed a few deadbeats, and be unable to save money in gold or silver so as to better myself as a capitalist. Yes, us capitalists are the best and the brightest, otherwise the wealth would not have gravitated to our hands! My portfolio is up over 20% in nominal terms, yet you would have confiscated all but just under 1% of the whole thing. Your insidious welfare-state would be the death of what industrialism as the best and the brightest, like myself, flee to the lands where we can profit. Or is serfdom the European 'folkish identity' you spoke of? Yes, socialism is slavery, even if done in a nationalist context.

As for the oligarchs, they are themselves a product of government welfare, as they were given loans and preferential treatment in purchasing the assets. If the assets were put on the market, the oligarchs would never have been, and public ownership would have been a non-issue. That and the law of large numbers dictates it is quite easy for a small number to double.

When the Soviet Union fell, what did capitalism do for Russia? After Putin nationalized the Russian energy industry, the annual income of the average Russian citizen doubled.

Russian business is booming because Putin took the nation's resources away from the jewish oligarchs and put them into the hands of the people.



http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Nationalized+industry

Dirk
December 28th, 2007, 12:20 PM
That is where we differ. Government has no place in the business of its citizenry. Instead, its function is as a nigh-watchman in a village.

Your own sacred constitution says otherwise:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Every other civilized, developed nation in the world (and some under-developed) provides basic health care for its workers, but the United States does not.

This modern industrial nation-state did OK without the levying of income tax until 1913, that is how nearly half the world's wealth wound up in such a small segment of the population. There was little in terms of welfare before then.

Yes, there was little in terms of regulating worker's rights, minimum wage, child-labor laws, indentured servitude, monopolies and company usury. The industrial revolution was built on the backs of the White working class and produced billions which wound up in the hands of robber barons.

By the way, the system which you advocate is serfdom. You want me to till potato-patches or work in your widget factories, surrender to you a sizable chunk so you can skim off the top and maybe feed a few deadbeats, and be unable to save money in gold or silver so as to better myself as a capitalist. Yes, us capitalists are the best and the brightest, otherwise the wealth would not have gravitated to our hands! My portfolio is up over 20% in nominal terms, yet you would have confiscated all but just under 1% of the whole thing.

Your economic darwinism shows you have no concern for the Race, only expanding your own "portfolio"... based on elites and jews buying and selling imaginary parts of companies on credit.

Your insidious welfare-state would be the death of what industrialism as the best and the brightest, like myself, flee to the lands where we can profit.

Sounds like a money-lender whose been run out of town by the local populace after they've gotten wind of what he's been up to.

Alexei Losonov
December 28th, 2007, 12:39 PM
Your own sacred constitution says otherwise:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." (A)

Every other civilized, developed nation in the world (and some under-developed) provides basic health care for its workers, but the United States does not. (B)

Yes, there was little in terms of regulating worker's rights, minimum wage, child-labor laws, indentured servitude, monopolies and company usury. The industrial revolution was built on the backs of the White working class and produced billions which wound up in the hands of robber barons. (C)

Your economic Darwinism shows you have no concern for the Race, only expanding your own "portfolio"... based on elites and jews buying and selling imaginary parts of companies on credit. (D)

Sounds like a money-lender whose been run out of town by the local populace after they've gotten wind of what he's been up to. (E)

(A) That is the pre-amble, therein lies the intended consequence of limited government; it carries no force.

(B) And look at the trouble it has caused! The welfare-states are drowning in red ink.

(C) Yes, robber-barons made money, as they should have from their investments. Not all it produced, though, wound up in the hands of robber-barons, otherwise there would have been no incentive to emigrate to begin with. Take a look (http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6857/uslxu5.gif)at the unskilled wage index (http://eh.net/databases/unskilledwage/david%20and%20solar.txt), industrialism improved the lot of the common man, as the labor market from their perspective improved during the Gilded Age.

(D) It is a consequence of economic Darwinism that the race is superior; ours is the most productive, the most inventive, and has born forth the best fruit of any race. If there was no incentive to produce i.e. communitarianism, dis-incentive is created to productivity and thus it harms the race.

(E) With all I have dealt with, I have dealt equitably. I am neither lender nor borrower, as debt is slavery and the economy in this country is so shitty that I will not lend a cent below 20%.

Mike Riggins
December 28th, 2007, 01:10 PM
There isn't a white man alive today that is doing more for our race than Ron Paul. He has the best chance of solving our problems.

Frank Blanc
December 28th, 2007, 02:21 PM
What does it matter when you're defending it against someone who talks in circles?

Notice how it's Bill White's worshippers pushing this line of venom against Ron Paul?