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The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 02:14 PM
I've been lurking around VNN since it opened up, and I've been lurking around stormfront for over a year now. I have to post this here, because SF would never let it through. I have made these observations over the past months:
1. WNs, at least those active on WN boards, are among the stupidest people I've ever witnessed. They invariably resort to ad hominem attacks when they are beaten in an argument. Stormfront is the perfect example of this.
2. When they don't have mods-on-power-trips like there are on SF, WNs are too stupid to make any point whatsoever. They resort to infighting and calling each other names because all they know how to do is feebly attack each other on the net.
3. Any WN whose picture I've ever seen looks like the pathetic loser from junior high that everyone used to dump on. WN, NatVan, NatAll, KKK, all of these are just opportunities for scared little boys to drink beer and jerk each other off. Biggest bunch of pussies in WWII costumes I've ever seen. Get them out from behind their keyboards and they're worthless.
You know why white people like me let you have internet boards like this? Because you WNs are too fucking stupid for mainstream society. We don't want you participating in our society, so we cordone you off here where you don't bother us. Instead, you guys can go on fucking livestock and daydreaming about Rahowa and leave us the hell alone.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 02:27 PM
So, you come to WN boards to spew this nonsense...
to tell WNs they are stupid...
because you just want to be left alone?
:rolleyes:
Okay, I will stop coming to your web forum so you can be left alone. Promise to do the same? What a dumbass.
Just trying to brighten your day. I think it's funny when a bunch of people who simultaneously think that the Holocaust should have happened but that it didn't actually happen call me a dumbass.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 02:33 PM
But don't liberals judge individuals not groups? I haven't said anything like that. Can you show a quote where Vlad said this, or does your liberal hypocracy elude you?
Oh, I certainly understand the so-called liberal hypocrisy to which you refer. So I take it that you think that the holocaust did happen and that it should not have. Good.
Carol Brady
December 15th, 2003, 02:50 PM
Oh, I certainly understand the so-called liberal hypocrisy to which you refer.
Good.
Then you'll of course remain consistent and tell them about it.
When you post remarks at a "liberal" (democrat particularly, but also republican, libertarian, or other pollyanna) discussion forum please let us know the web address. I for one would be interested in reading your comments.
Ossian
December 15th, 2003, 03:16 PM
It's remarkable, that for a guy who 'doesn't want us participating in [his] society,' "The Answer" certainly has, by his own admission, invested a whole lot of his time perusing our bulletin boards....
But, aside from his snide (albeit canned) and insipid piffle, a lot of what he wrote is very evidently true.
Some of it is that, generally, the less intelligent Whites, who are also financially poorer, have long been the ones who are most immediately threatened (physically, economically, and otherwise) by nonwhites; the rest of "our" apparent stupidity may be explained thus:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=649
Ossian
December 15th, 2003, 03:31 PM
I think it's funny when a bunch of people who simultaneously think that the Holocaust should have happened but that it didn't actually happen call me a dumbass.
To assume only for the sake of argument that your above statement is completely correct, so what? There is absolutely nothing illogical, necessarily, about concurrently holding both of those viewpoints. Of course to ascertain that more surely, one would have to precisely and actually define what one means by "The Holocaust," and that is very rarely something that any True Believer or Exterminationist is wont to do.
As long as you are talking about "The Holocaust," then, like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, you can make that word mean anything you want it to mean. It's a brilliant maneuver, and many revisionists and almost all of the public have fallen for it.
If by "Holocaust" you mean that hundreds of thousands of Jews suffered and died at the hands of Nazi Germany and its agents, due to starvation, disease and gunfire, and that many other Jews were deported from Germany under conditions of cruelty and hardship, then by that specific and limited definition the "holocaust" word can be assigned to those specifics (as an Orwellian exercize in pop Newspeak.)
But if however by "Holocaust" you allege that millions of Jews were put to death in homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz and that this suffering constitutes the most unparalleled catastrophe in the history of mankind, then I would have to assert total skepticism for what is, in essence, a laughable and insupportable thesis.
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 15th, 2003, 04:46 PM
This Answer stated that Vlad posted something about a Holocaust. .
Actual quote from The Answer:
"Just trying to brighten your day. I think it's funny when a bunch of people who simultaneously think that the Holocaust should have happened but that it didn't actually happen call me a dumbass."
Sounds more like a generalisation to me. You guys love generalisations don't you? I guess you could semantically nit pick Aswer's words and try to assert that the way Answer phrased it that he/she was refering to every last person on this board, but that would just be semantic nit picking. What he/she wrote is clear enough. What was that word that you guys use when people nit pick words and grammer? What was that word again? Oh yes I remember:
Jewspeak
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 15th, 2003, 05:26 PM
I'm calling out a lying hypocrite fool. Liberals don't judge groups they judge individuals. "You guys" implies each and every single individual. As an individual, I want it proven that I made this statement. Is This Answer going to back up its stupid claim or not?
See that is just it. Yes maybe you are right. Maybe answer did not phrase his/her question perfectly, maybe it was technically incorrect when interpreted in some particular manner. The point is that you internet racists always* do this, you always* nit pick this or that semantic nuance rather than just correcting any false assumtions a person may have had and moving on. You people claim to be the last hope of the white race and you spend alot of your time arguing things like this.
Ok you got me not always, that was a generalisation on my part, how about "in my experience the vast majority of the time" is that tecnical enough for you?
Colonel-Voltz
December 15th, 2003, 05:58 PM
WNs, at least those active on WN boards, are among the stupidest people I've ever witnessed
Technically you have never witnessed any of these people. You can merely betoken snippets of your limited communication with them, which you have yet to provide. I do not require such evidence to be brought forth for; I know it already exists which is unfortunate.
When they don't have mods-on-power-trips like there are on SF, WNs are too stupid to make any point whatsoever.
You want me to make a point? I am pleased to make it known that I can accommodate your request. All you have to do is click on the link below, and hopefully my point will be made.
my 2 cents (http://www.whiterevolution.com/forum14/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=948) Note: This link will also lead you to other sources of information which should help support and solidify my point.
Any WN whose picture I've ever seen looks like the pathetic loser from junior high that everyone used to dump on. WN, NatVan, NatAll, KKK, all of these are just opportunities for scared little boys to drink beer and jerk each other off. Biggest bunch of pussies in WWII costumes I've ever seen.
The KKK utilizes WWII costumes? I guess now would be a good time for me to make it known that I have never worn a WWII costume.
You know why white people like me let you have internet boards like this? Because you WNs are too fucking stupid for mainstream society.
William Pierce was a WN, and he almost certainly had an I.Q. that exceeded your own. He would just be one of the obvious examples, but I need not list more to prove that your statement quoted above is false.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 08:51 PM
To assume only for the sake of argument that your above statement is completely correct, so what? There is absolutely nothing illogical, necessarily, about concurrently holding both of those viewpoints. Of course to ascertain that more surely, one would have to precisely and actually define what one means by "The Holocaust," and that is very rarely something that any True Believer or Exterminationist is wont to do.
As long as you are talking about "The Holocaust," then, like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, you can make that word mean anything you want it to mean. It's a brilliant maneuver, and many revisionists and almost all of the public have fallen for it.
If by "Holocaust" you mean that hundreds of thousands of Jews suffered and died at the hands of Nazi Germany and its agents, due to starvation, disease and gunfire, and that many other Jews were deported from Germany under conditions of cruelty and hardship, then by that specific and limited definition the "holocaust" word can be assigned to those specifics (as an Orwellian exercize in pop Newspeak.)
But if however by "Holocaust" you allege that millions of Jews were put to death in homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz and that this suffering constitutes the most unparalleled catastrophe in the history of mankind, then I would have to assert total skepticism for what is, in essence, a laughable and insupportable thesis.
Way to go. Typical dumbass WN doublespeak. Of course the word "Holocaust" can mean anything. Welcome to 9th grade, genius. My meaning is the second one to which you refer.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 08:54 PM
This Answer stated that Vlad posted something about a Holocaust. I want that claim backed up by a quote from Vlad and a link to the thread where Vlad posted this.
You're avoiding my question, you stupid WN. You indeed never posted anything about the Holocaust. So I can assume by the fact that you have refused to deny my assertion that you believe that the Holocaust was wrong and did happen that you accept this?
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 08:55 PM
I'm calling out a lying hypocrite fool. Liberals don't judge groups they judge individuals. "You guys" implies each and every single individual. As an individual, I want it proven that I made this statement. Is This Answer going to back up its stupid claim or not?
Sorry for taking so long. I have a JOB. I don't get to pick my ass all day on the internet. How's the unemployment check treating you?
Ossian
December 15th, 2003, 09:49 PM
How very astonishing it isn't, that our dear, sanctimonious 'answer' has no answer, no rebuttal, at all, and so must resort to insults-- booring ones at that. Insults are indeed the well-worn refuge of the out-argued; and here he is, himself doing (albeit poorly) the very thing he accuses more honest people of doing.
Equally comical (and not merely coincidental) is his professed (and, I'll wager, religiously 'unshakable') belief "that millions of Jews were put to death in homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz and that this suffering constitutes the most unparalleled catastrophe in the history of mankind."
Colonel-Voltz
December 15th, 2003, 10:07 PM
You're avoiding my question, you stupid WN. You indeed never posted anything about the Holocaust. So I can assume by the fact that you have refused to deny my assertion that you believe that the Holocaust was wrong and did happen that you accept this?
Why is it you liberals are always bringing up the holocaust? The primary objective of most White Nationalists is not one of extermination. The White Nationalists objective is one of preservation of our race and culture. In light of that aruging over the holocaust, to me, seems moot.
White : being a member of a group or race characterized by reduced pigmentation and usually specifically distinguished from persons belonging to groups marked by black, brown, yellow, or red skin coloration b : of, relating to, characteristic of, or consisting of white people
Nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.
Perserve: to keep safe from injury, harm, or destruction
or to keep alive, intact, or free from decay
Hmmm. I don't see anything in any of those definitions that suggests extermination therefore, I see no reason to be discussing the holocaust. I hope you visited the site I linked above, so you can better understand the 'preservation objective.'
Also I would like inquire as to how you feel about Nationalists of other races.
I can only assume you hate them and think they are stupid as well, but wait. oh no!... then you would either have to admit you are in fact racist or that you just hate nationalism in general.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 10:30 PM
How very astonishing it isn't, that our dear, sanctimonious 'answer' has no answer, no rebuttal, at all, and so must resort to insults
What's the question?
-- booring ones at that. Insults are indeed the well-worn refuge of the out-argued; and here he is, himself doing (albeit poorly) the very thing he accuses more honest people of doing.
Equally comical (and not merely coincidental) is his professed (and, I'll wager, religiously 'unshakable') belief "that millions of Jews were put to death in homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz and that this suffering constitutes the most unparalleled catastrophe in the history of mankind."
I'm not an expert on the Holocaust. I do, however, trust the judgments of experts. It's only as unshakable as the information that I take from them. WNs such as the ones who I've seen here are hardly experts.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 10:34 PM
Why is it you liberals are always bringing up the holocaust? The primary objective of most White Nationalists is not one of extermination. The White Nationalists objective is one of preservation of our race and culture. In light of that aruging over the holocaust, to me, seems moot.
Why do you think I'm a liberal?
White : being a member of a group or race characterized by reduced pigmentation and usually specifically distinguished from persons belonging to groups marked by black, brown, yellow, or red skin coloration b : of, relating to, characteristic of, or consisting of white people
Nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups.
Perserve: to keep safe from injury, harm, or destruction
or to keep alive, intact, or free from decay
Hmmm. I don't see anything in any of those definitions that suggests extermination therefore, I see no reason to be discussing the holocaust. I hope you visited the site I linked above, so you can better understand the 'preservation objective.'
Also I would like inquire as to how you feel about Nationalists of other races.
I can only assume you hate them and think they are stupid as well, but wait. oh no!... then you would either have to admit you are in fact racist or that you just hate nationalism in general.
Ding-ding-ding! I don't like black nationalists, Asian nationalists, whatever. At least, not when they act like stupid WNs, prancing about with their "mud" this and their "nigger" that (or "cracker" this or "kike" that, whatever).
I hate idiocy of all types. WNs, you are no more special than any other group of idiots who I encounter.
Spandau
December 15th, 2003, 10:43 PM
Why do you think I'm a liberal?
Ding-ding-ding! I don't like black nationalists, Asian nationalists, whatever. At least, not when they act like stupid WNs, prancing about with their "mud" this and their "nigger" that (or "cracker" this or "kike" that, whatever).
I hate idiocy of all types. WNs, you are no more special than any other group of idiots who I encounter.
Than why do you hang around here? I guess that you suffer from the same lack of life that you ascribe WN's as having. If we are all idiots, Why don't you go fuck yourself and piss off? Inquiring minds want to know.
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 15th, 2003, 10:56 PM
Than why do you hang around here? I guess that you suffer from the same lack of life that you ascribe WN's as having. If we are all idiots, Why don't you go fuck yourself and piss off? Inquiring minds want to know.
Watching WN flail about is kind of like a reality show/soap opera. I get alot of enertainment watching the so-called movement "progress". I can't wait for the Matt Hale trial, it will be a hoot when he brings his bullshit to a judge. I have read a few of the court papers he has filed and they have the ring of the holocaust deniers' ranting. He is going to get a very memorable lesson: that the average person can see through his lies much better than the typical WN cultist, and i'm sure the judge is smarter than your average bear too, judges tend to be. The ARA should find the finest 20 year old white girl in Chicago that has a black boyfriend and get them to go to the trial and cuddle in the seats LOL. OMG Hale would flip a breaker right there in court.
Colonel-Voltz
December 15th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Why do you think I'm a liberal?
Ding-ding-ding! I don't like black nationalists, Asian nationalists, whatever. At least, not when they act like stupid WNs, prancing about with their "mud" this and their "nigger" that (or "cracker" this or "kike" that, whatever).
I hate idiocy of all types. WNs, you are no more special than any other group of idiots who I encounter.
In that case I would like to know what arguments you make when dealing with nationalists of other races. Clearly bringing up the holocaust wont be productive in arguments with those people. If you could post links to colored nationalist forums where you have made your liberal presence felt; I would greatly appreciate it. Fail to do so and everyone else here including myself will just assume you are a discriminating hypocrite for only targeting White Nationalists.
(*and the trap is sprung and everyone holds their breath and and..*) Stay Tuned for further developments. :D
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 11:12 PM
In that case I would like to know what arguments you make when dealing with nationalists of other races. Clearly bringing up the holocaust wont be productive in arguments with those people. If you could post links to colored nationalist forums where you have made your liberal presence felt; I would greatly appreciate it. Fail to do so and everyone else here including myself will just assume you are a discriminating hypocrite for only targeting White Nationalists.
(*and the trap is sprung and everyone holds their breath and and..*) Stay Tuned for further developments. :D
I made an ass of myself at Brownpride and got kicked off (not under this name). But that's beside the point. Assume whatever you want.
Who cares what the particular idiocy of a particular movement is? Black nationalists who argue that Egyptians were sub-Saharan Africans. Hard-right Israelis who want to destroy the Palestinians. WNs who persist in denying the Holocaust. All stupid.
The Answer
December 15th, 2003, 11:14 PM
In that case I would like to know what arguments you make when dealing with nationalists of other races. Clearly bringing up the holocaust wont be productive in arguments with those people. If you could post links to colored nationalist forums where you have made your liberal presence felt; I would greatly appreciate it. Fail to do so and everyone else here including myself will just assume you are a discriminating hypocrite for only targeting White Nationalists.
(*and the trap is sprung and everyone holds their breath and and..*) Stay Tuned for further developments. :D
You still didn't answer my question about why you think I'm liberal. Oh, that's right. Don't have an answer. Liberal is a blanket statement for anyone with a brain.
Colonel-Voltz
December 16th, 2003, 12:00 AM
You still didn't answer my question about why you think I'm liberal. Oh, that's right. Don't have an answer. Liberal is a blanket statement for anyone with a brain.
I just use the word liberal as a classification for someone who seems to have leftist political views.
Also I regret to inform you that you have failed to provide linkage and, therefore I am limitting my communication with you to one word. (*points at The Answer*)
[Simpson children] "Hypocrite" * Infinity [/Simpson Children]
I apologize to my fellow White Nationalists for this slightly unprofessional display, but I couldn't resist wallowing in this victory insignificant as it may be. I also invite them to wallow in this victory along side me.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 09:05 AM
Explain how choosing not to answer is stupid.
You're stupid independently of your choice not to answer. Now answer, you stupid WN.
Hmm? Nah, I'm working on my Master's Degree. How's working a WalMart cash register treating you?
I admit, that's a good one. But no, have a real job. And a Ph.D.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 09:09 AM
I just use the word liberal as a classification for someone who seems to have leftist political views.
Also I regret to inform you that you have failed to provide linkage and, therefore I am limitting my communication with you to one word. (*points at The Answer*)
[Simpson children] "Hypocrite" * Infinity [/Simpson Children]
I apologize to my fellow White Nationalists for this slightly unprofessional display, but I couldn't resist wallowing in this victory insignificant as it may be. I also invite them to wallow in this victory along side me.
Nice try. Have you never heard of Brownpride? You stupid shit. Try "google." Here's a hint. You type "W W W DOT G O O G L E DOT C O M" in that little bar at the top of your screen. Then you type "B R O W N P R I D E" in the little box in the middle of your screen. Then you click on "I'm Feeling Lucky."
Dumbass.
Ahmed Yassin
December 16th, 2003, 09:15 AM
And a Ph.D.
Doesn't everyone on the Internet? :cool:
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 09:32 AM
Doesn't everyone on the Internet? :cool:
They all say they do. It's true.
I should have known better than to write that. People on the internet don't believe it, but that's not my problem.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 01:04 PM
Is that the best you can do? I meant "cordon." While you're at it, here's some more grist for your mill: I lost my keys once a couple of years ago, and once I made a multiplication error.
Dumbass WN.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 01:19 PM
Duh Answer means cordon, as in Le Cordon Bleu, as in Le Cordon Bleu Culinary Program at Brown College: http://www.cooking-culinary-arts-schools.com/cordon-bleu-culinary/
You see, having grown tired of cultivating culinary cuisine at the local fast food joint, Duh Answer managed to save its pennies over the years and can now afford to be trained as a real chef. I'm not sure if that is a doctorate program or not. Maybe Duh Answer can fill us in, without typing something stupid that is.
Funny, shit-for-brains. You can't even spell hypocrisy right. Some Master's Degree you'll be getting. Tell me, clown college or hamburger?
Can you show a quote where Vlad said this, or does your liberal hypocracy elude you?
The funniest thing is, I'll bet you didn't even know it was wrong until I told you.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 01:43 PM
I freely admit to the occasional spelling error and I remain untroubled by this.
What does trouble me is the fact that an ex-fast food, culinary arts doctorate program candidate (that would be you), actually took well over 20 hours to even see a spelling error! You already stupidly quoted my erroneous spelling once without pointing the error out the first time. Ah, you must be one of those affirmative action special candidates for the coloureds/half-coloureds.
Well, that explains everything then.
I did notice it, but I thought that your stupidity was obvious. Notice that I spelled it correctly in my response. I ignored it until you and your Hitler Youth friend decided that the best that you could do was to make fun of my spelling mistake.
If you have a response to my question, then let's hear it. Stupid WN. Always trying to change the subject. It's not like Stormfront here. The mods don't protect the weak from the strong.
T.Garrett
December 16th, 2003, 02:20 PM
To the answer
It seems like ‘denial of the holocaust’ is your axe to grind here with WN, and I am no ‘expert’ on this subject either but I am old enough to know that before the 1970’s you never heard of the word holocaust used in reference to this supposed unique jewish suffering at the hands of Nationalist Germans during WWII. I don’t particularly care whether this ‘holocaust’ happened to jews or not, I am not a jew and it is not important to me. I object to the way it is hypocritically propagandized in the biased American news media as if no other people in history were ever murdered for their ethnicity or some other characteristic, and as if jews are not themselves responsible for ‘holocausts’ as we well see what the Israeli jews do to the helpless Arabs and what many say was a jewish led bolshevik purge of millions in the Ukraine in the 1930’s. Anyhow, I am sure that if you wish to debate about the ‘holocaust’ there will be a WN on this board sooner or later who will intelligently argue point by point against your position. Later
T,Garrett
Ahmed Yassin
December 16th, 2003, 02:32 PM
Angry young men should not have access to the Internet.
We can learn much from this thread.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 02:36 PM
To the answer
It seems like ‘denial of the holocaust’ is your axe to grind here with WN, and I am no ‘expert’ on this subject either but I am old enough to know that before the 1970’s you never heard of the word holocaust used in reference to this supposed unique jewish suffering at the hands of Nationalist Germans during WWII. I don’t particularly care whether this ‘holocaust’ happened to jews or not, I am not a jew and it is not important to me. I object to the way it is hypocritically propagandized in the biased American news media as if no other people in history were ever murdered for their ethnicity or some other characteristic, and as if jews are not themselves responsible for ‘holocausts’ as we well see what the Israeli jews do to the helpless Arabs and what many say was a jewish led bolshevik purge of millions in the Ukraine in the 1930’s. Anyhow, I am sure that if you wish to debate about the ‘holocaust’ there will be a WN on this board sooner or later who will intelligently argue point by point against your position. Later
T,Garrett
Much better. No, the Jews were not the only group to suffer at the hands of the Germans during WWII. If you go to the Holocaust Museum, for example, you can learn about many other groups that suffered. The Jews have no monopoly upon suffering. Then again, no one denies the stalinist purges or the massacre of Armenians under the Turks.
T.Garrett
December 16th, 2003, 03:35 PM
To the answer
Oh ok, your response ‘answered’ my question. I don’t think you really want to debate the ‘holocaust’, do you? WWII was a worldwide conflict that killed millions on all sides, whether it be Germans, who were massacred en masse as POW’s after WWII by the USA and USSR, Russians who died as bolshevist jew NKVD forced them at gunpoint to be their janissaries against the Nationalist Germans, or in the jewish Gulag after the war, Poles who were murdered by jew Bolsheviks, whatver I am a White American and will stick to issues about White Americans here. Interesting you brought the ‘holocaust’ museum into this discussion. First, how does this ‘museum’ relate to non-jewish Americans, is it there to indict us somehow for some wrong done jews during WWII (I have heard a few jews say they want compensation because the US didn’t respond quick enough to save jews from the work camps, or the fact that some American companies did business with National Socialist Germany and Italy entitles jews for payments for ‘slave’ labor), America owes world jewry nothing and this brings us to the second point of this ‘museum’, why was this surreal monument built on our National Mall in DC BEFORE a suitable monument was built to American dead in WWII ever was. I feel we should be honoring AMERICAN dead before foreigners who died thousands of miles away in Europe, especially at US taxpayers expense. Kinda says a little about this jewish political power in the US, and a little about how jews really feel about us White Americans who bore the brunt of that conflict. The right thing to do would have been for jews to build a monument to our WWII dead in appreciation for their sacrifice FIRST and then whatever jews feel is appropriate for themselves, but not on our National Mall in our Capitol city. My mothers brother died in battle in WWII, and she still has bittersweet memories of her childhood with him from sixty years ago like the day he joined the Army to serve his country with honor never to return. But then, he was a man who picked up a gun and fought, didn’t walk naked with his kids in tow into a labor camp sniveling and urinating on himself in fear, how do you think my uncle would feel about this ‘museum’ in DC that honors people who didn’t fight their oppressor but cowardly submitted to their enemies tender mercies? Answer, I am a WN who believes that strong fences make good neighbors. Time and time again, history teaches us that multi cultural societies don’t work, they only produce the most extreme kind of politics and violence before they collapse into a jigsaw puzzle cut up along ethnic lines, so why don’t we all go our separate ways and call it a day and then we will have peace? People who want to ‘stir the pot’ wish trouble. BTW, the Turks DO deny the Armenian genocide, and Russian jews deny involvement in the Ukrainian holocaust in the 1930’s. Later
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 05:37 PM
To the answer
Oh ok, your response ‘answered’ my question. I don’t think you really want to debate the ‘holocaust’, do you? WWII was a worldwide conflict that killed millions on all sides, whether it be Germans, who were massacred en masse as POW’s after WWII by the USA and USSR,
USSR, yes. USA, not so much. WWII killed millions. True enough. I feel bad for all civilians who died. Especially Eastern Europeans, Chinese, and Southeast Asians.
Russians who died as bolshevist jew NKVD forced them at gunpoint to be their janissaries against the Nationalist Germans, or in the jewish Gulag after the war, Poles who were murdered by jew Bolsheviks,
This is my favorite. Jews invented communism. Hence, anything that a communist country does was done by Jews. Dumbass. Stalin was not a Jew.
whatver I am a White American and will stick to issues about White Americans here. Interesting you brought the ‘holocaust’ museum into this discussion. First, how does this ‘museum’ relate to non-jewish Americans, is it there to indict us somehow for some wrong done jews during WWII
Don't think so. IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT JEWS. Go visit if you don't believe me.
(I have heard a few jews say they want compensation because the US didn’t respond quick enough to save jews from the work camps, or the fact that some American companies did business with National Socialist Germany and Italy entitles jews for payments for ‘slave’ labor),
On the first point, I agree, wrong, but on the second point, American companies that used Nazi slave labor owe the slaves compensation.
America owes world jewry nothing and this brings us to the second point of this ‘museum’, why was this surreal monument built on our National Mall in DC BEFORE a suitable monument was built to American dead in WWII ever was.
Don't know. There are lots of monuments that should have been built. Why was the Vietnam War memorial built before a WWII one?
I feel we should be honoring AMERICAN dead before foreigners who died thousands of miles away in Europe, especially at US taxpayers expense.
That's nice.
Kinda says a little about this jewish political power in the US, and a little about how jews really feel about us White Americans who bore the brunt of that conflict. The right thing to do would have been for jews to build a monument to our WWII dead in appreciation for their sacrifice FIRST and then whatever jews feel is appropriate for themselves, but not on our National Mall in our Capitol city. My mothers brother died in battle in WWII, and she still has bittersweet memories of her childhood with him from sixty years ago like the day he joined the Army to serve his country with honor never to return.
Right. So what? Doesn't make the Holocaust memorial wrong.
But then, he was a man who picked up a gun and fought, didn’t walk naked with his kids in tow into a labor camp sniveling and urinating on himself in fear,
You obviously haven't read much about the Jewish resistance. Of course not, you're a bigoted WN.
how do you think my uncle would feel about this ‘museum’ in DC that honors people who didn’t fight their oppressor but cowardly submitted to their enemies tender mercies?
My relatives who fought in WWII think it's one of the most stirring confirmations of their good deads in that most terrible of wars. They love it.
Answer, I am a WN who believes that strong fences make good neighbors. Time and time again, history teaches us that multi cultural societies don’t work, they only produce the most extreme kind of politics and violence before they collapse into a jigsaw puzzle cut up along ethnic lines, so why don’t we all go our separate ways and call it a day and then we will have peace? People who want to ‘stir the pot’ wish trouble.
Fine. Go somewhere else. The majority HERE have spoken.
BTW, the Turks DO deny the Armenian genocide, and Russian jews deny involvement in the Ukrainian holocaust in the 1930’s. Later
T.Garrett
On the Turks, good point, and I have gotten in fights with Turks about that point. On the Ukranian holocaust, that's Communists, not Jews. Figures you can't tell the difference.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 05:38 PM
So how much money have non-jew holocaust survivors gotten? Jews have supposedly milked trillions. What about non-jews?
Don't know. They certainly should get some, though. Why don't you suggest it to them?
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 16th, 2003, 07:47 PM
Really? So the majority of Americans are perfectly content with the way things are? The majority of Americans support an immigration policy that has turned the southwest into an outpost of Mexico? The majority of Americans are happy with set-asides and quotas, which have helped to employ such notorious incompetents as Jason Blair and Chief Moose?
No, the vast majority of Americans see WN as the traitorous but pitiful mental midgets that you are.
The Jew Lazar Kaganovich presided over the forced collectivization of the Ukrainian farms. You might want to educate yourself by reading Kaganovich's biography, "The World of the Kremlim," which was authored by his nephew, who traveled to the USSR in the eighties to interview his subject in yiddish.
Don't start with the collectivist guilt max, it makes you you sound like a commie.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 08:02 PM
Really? So the majority of Americans are perfectly content with the way things are? The majority of Americans support an immigration policy that has turned the southwest into an outpost of Mexico? The majority of Americans are happy with set-asides and quotas, which have helped to employ such notorious incompetents as Jason Blair and Chief Moose?
You can be in favor of stricter immigration laws and be against affirmative action while simultaneously disagreeing with actual White Nationalism. That's what you boneheads don't get.
It's like when I say things like "I think that the prison system could use some reform," and someone says "Oh, you think that killers should be set free?" You jump from a reasonable contention to an irrational outcome. It's the type of crap that keeps you guys on the fringe. And yes, you ARE on the fringe.
The Jew Lazar Kaganovich presided over the forced collectivization of the Ukrainian farms. You might want to educate yourself by reading Kaganovich's biography, "The World of the Kremlim," which was authored by his nephew, who traveled to the USSR in the eighties to interview his subject in yiddish.
Jeebus, you billy-bobs just don't get it. Someone can be Jewish and a Communist. That does not mean that Communism is "Jewish." It's like saying that I'm a Methodist and a Democrat (I'm neither). Doesn't mean that the Democratic Party is "Methodist."
Colonel-Voltz
December 16th, 2003, 08:26 PM
No, the vast majority of Americans see WN as the traitorous but pitiful mental midgets that you are.
The only reason they think that is because they presume this movement is all about the destruction of other races and cultures. I surmise liberals/anti-nationalists truly believe they are promoting diversity. Unfortunately many liberals/anti-nationalists don't realize that they are inevitably helping to facilitate the destruction of diveristy. True, none of us will actually live to see the end of diversity, but our great grand children might if action is not taken. If we are to preserve other races and cultures indefinitely; we must segregate them from one another.
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 16th, 2003, 08:48 PM
If we are to preserve other races and cultures indefinitely; we must segregate them from one another.
This ain't a zoo bub. And it ain't a museum. It is a nation of people free to choose whom to marry and what cultural trappings to adopt/reject. You see, people greatly resent, or at least laugh at, the notion that you people know what is better for them than they do. It's not like you are a group known for making wise decisions.
Colonel-Voltz
December 16th, 2003, 09:19 PM
This ain't a zoo bub. And it ain't a museum. It is a nation of people free to choose whom to marry and what cultural trappings to adopt/reject. You see, people greatly resent, or at least laugh at, the notion that you people know what is better for them than they do. It's not like you are a group known for making wise decisions.
I know our group doesn't have a perfect track record, but then again, none of the other groups are without fault. Fact sometimes people do not know what is best for them. If people always knew what was best for them we wouldn't have drug addicts. White Nationalists, myself included, happen to think the races would be better off if segregated.
There's a high probability that we are all innately racist. (http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/humannature/article.jsp?id=99994388&sub=The%20brain) < just like there's a high probability all of us are born free of drug addiction. Some drug addics are unable to grasp what is good for them. On the other hand, some drug addics know they have a problem, but are too weak to kick the habbit. Society today is facing a similar problem. Many people have been overtaken by the politically correct corruption that has been crammed into their phycies. Also, here's another link with some additional information to support my argument for segregation. thanks Atem. (http://www.amren.com/952issue/952issue.html)
T.Garrett
December 16th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Dear an swer
Humm, I see you agree with much that I posted, only the issue of jewish bolshevism and it’s terrible legacy in Russia seems to be a sticking point. The fact of the matter is, ethnic jews were in firm control of the USSR bureaucracy from it’s inception right up till the 1950’s and Khrushchev, in particular the Soviet secret police, you really should read your Russian history and be enlightened by the facts. Fact is, only a very small portion of the German nation actually belonged to the Nazi party, but collectively the Germans have paid stinging reparations to jews and have endured vilification and slander since, actually the 1930’s when the Germans nationalized a lot of their industry which angered many jews worldwide who had interests there, and to this day the jewish controlled American press in particular, slanders Germans and Germany 60 years after the end of WWII. Don’t you think it’s time for this to stop? Your point about the Vietnam Memorial I agree with, there should have been a Memorial to the dead of WWII built long before it was. But what does this have to do with the fact that the ‘holocaust’ museum has nothing to do with American history and memorializes the deaths of people who were not Americans and were killed thousands of miles away in Europe? Built on our National Mall, where only Memorials to American events and heroes should be? And with our tax dollars? Answer me this answer, off the top of your head do you even know, without looking it up, how many Americans died in WWII? But I bet you can tell me in a heartbeat how many jews supposedly died, the ‘six million’. Ponder that ‘answer’. And you make no mention of Israel, which I mentioned the glaring hypocrisy of jewish academia in avoiding criticism of the nazi like state of Israel, the same academia who seem to have lovingly ‘educated’ and inculcated their politics into your thought processes.. Is there room for any other philosophy other than the mundane pee-cee crap you spout here, are you that mentally challenged that you cant go against the flow of establishment political rhetoric, you frame your argument with childish insults, like ‘dumbass’ and ‘go somewhere else’ and ‘figures you cant tell the difference’ LOL, you really are no challenge boy, You’re politics are yesterdays news, they are the same politics GW Bush and the other tyrants in DC spew and camouflage their pretzel logic in that they use to justify their oppression of others. Which is really what you are all about there, establishment boy. And by the way, are you jewish? Later
T.Garrett
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 16th, 2003, 09:57 PM
I know our group doesn't have a perfect track record, but then again, none of the other groups are without fault. Fact sometimes people do not know what is best for them. If people always knew what was best for them we wouldn't have drug addicts. White Nationalists, myself included, happen to think the races would be better off if segregated.
There's a high probability that we are all innately racist. (http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/humannature/article.jsp?id=99994388&sub=The%20brain) < just like there's a high probability all of us are born free of drug addiction. Some drug addics are unable to grasp what is good for them. On the other hand, some drug addics know they have a problem, but are too weak to kick the habbit. Society today is facing a similar problem. Many people have been overtaken by the politically correct corruption that has been crammed into their phycies. Also, here's another link with some additional information to support my argument for segregation. thanks Atem. (http://www.amren.com/952issue/952issue.html)
"perfect track record"? Please, you have nothing but a William Peirce fan club, a few message boards, a string of pedophilia, other various criminalities, and failure.
And as for the new scientific findings about altruism and genetic similarities I am well aware of them. See, the problem is, those new findings don't square at all with the old folk beliefs of "race". A "black" ancestor two or three generations back does very little to distance someone genetically from "whites", especially if that "black" himself was descended in part from "whites". What does that newscientist article say about the one drop rule Colonel? And just because there is some possible slight tendancy to favor someone's "distant family" over their "even more distant family" in no way means that we need to segregate races, that is just a rediculous conclusion that you draw. Do you want to divide people by height, weight, and eye and hair color? No, of course you do not, you just want to use the one relatively insignificant marker of skin color. You are just slapping some science that you think fits onto your old ignorant racism to try to jazz it up a bit. Like a fool that puts an expensive paint job on a rusty old POS Pinto without even doing any body work. Everyone can still tell that it is a POS except maybe a few of your fellow fools driving their own old POS Pintos. Time to get a new car bud.
And before you tell me that race is not just skin color tell me what race this girl is and why:
Steve B
December 16th, 2003, 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Vlad
So how much money have non-jew holocaust survivors gotten? Jews have supposedly milked trillions. What about non-jews?
Don't know. They certainly should get some, though. Why don't you suggest it to them?
Oy Vey!!! "suggest"...pontificate, ruminate, discuss, have a meeting, take a vote, get a consensus, notify the Rabbi's!!!
In the meantime the jews bilk billions from White taxpayors to fund their phoney holohoax schemes!
Fuck you kikes!!!
ITZ COMING!
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 10:13 PM
The poster you replied to said "good fences make good neighbors" and that things would be better off if we went our separate ways, to which you replied "the majority has spoken." I thought you were saying that the majority of Americans are in favor of the federal laws which prevent whites from segregating their neighborhoods and businesses.
Just out of curiosity, how are you defining white nationalism?
At the base, the desire to create a country for white people only.
The argument wasn't about whether Communism is Jewish, but whether Jews were involved in the Ukrainian holocaust -- something you denied. In this case, the man who orchestrated the collectivization of the farms, Lazar Kagonovich, was Jewish. If you read his biography you'll find he identified himself as a Jew first and foremost.
So what? Let's say I'm a methodist and a Democrat, and that I identify myself as a Methodist first and foremost. Still doesn't make the Democratic party "Methodist."
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 10:19 PM
Dear an swer
Humm, I see you agree with much that I posted, only the issue of jewish bolshevism and it’s terrible legacy in Russia seems to be a sticking point. The fact of the matter is, ethnic jews were in firm control of the USSR bureaucracy from it’s inception right up till the 1950’s and Khrushchev, in particular the Soviet secret police, you really should read your Russian history and be enlightened by the facts.
Some Jews in the bureaucracy does not equal Jewish domination. Same old shit, different coat.
Fact is, only a very small portion of the German nation actually belonged to the Nazi party, but collectively the Germans have paid stinging reparations to jews and have endured vilification and slander since, actually the 1930’s when the Germans nationalized a lot of their industry which angered many jews worldwide who had interests there, and to this day the jewish controlled American press in particular, slanders Germans and Germany 60 years after the end of WWII. Don’t you think it’s time for this to stop?
Someday it will. But not while Holocaust survivors continue to be alive.
Your point about the Vietnam Memorial I agree with, there should have been a Memorial to the dead of WWII built long before it was. But what does this have to do with the fact that the ‘holocaust’ museum has nothing to do with American history and memorializes the deaths of people who were not Americans and were killed thousands of miles away in Europe?
Nothing at all. Never said it did. So what? You don't like it? Piss off.
Built on our National Mall, where only Memorials to American events
and heroes should be? And with our tax dollars? Answer me this answer, off the top of your head do you even know, without looking it up, how many Americans died in WWII?
Several million.
But I bet you can tell me in a heartbeat how many jews supposedly died, the ‘six million’.
I don't know how many Jews died. The figure 6 million has been floated around. I bet if there were a WWII memorial that I had visited, I'd know the answer. But I've always thought a WWII memorial would be a good idea.
Ponder that ‘answer’. And you make no mention of Israel, which I mentioned the glaring hypocrisy of jewish academia in avoiding criticism of the nazi like state of Israel, the same academia who seem to have lovingly ‘educated’ and inculcated their politics into your thought processes..
Same old shit from another ign'ernt WN. No, I don't support Israel.
Is there room for any other philosophy other than the mundane pee-cee crap you spout here, are you that mentally challenged that you cant go against the flow of establishment political rhetoric, you frame your argument with childish insults, like ‘dumbass’ and ‘go somewhere else’ and ‘figures you cant tell the difference’ LOL, you really are no challenge boy, You’re politics are yesterdays news, they are the same politics GW Bush and the other tyrants in DC spew and camouflage their pretzel logic in that they use to justify their oppression of others. Which is really what you are all about there, establishment boy.
Hey, again, don't support Israel, I didn't vote for Bush, don't like him, don't agree with is politics. Anything else you want to get wrong?
And by the way, are you jewish? Later
T.Garrett
Nope. But so what if I was? Still doesn't make you more right.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 10:22 PM
Irritating, isn't it? When you claim to have a Ph.D (piled higher and deeper)
Better than a "Plain old High school Diploma."
but a "dumbass WN" has to point out that you can't even proofread your posts for spelling errors,
You're right. Didn't proofread my post. I must be an idiot. You fucking moron, think before you speak.
not to mention your numerous errors in judgement? Ouch, I bet you hate when that happens, hahahaha. Kinda really makes you look ignorant, eh old boy? And yes, I have no doubt that you lost your keys a couple years ago, and have made a multiplication error. Don't worry, there's plenty alleged Ph.D's who are equally absent-minded, so you're in good company.
Yeah. We're all over the place.
And what's with the derogatory "dumbass" remark? Is this really symptomatic of the kind of words that Ph.D's are trained to use? At any rate, now that you've started it, I believe I'll also use that word when I refer to you, you dumbass Ph.D!
Here's the funny thing. PhDs use all sorts of language. In a paper I might call you "misguided" or "myopic." On the internet, you're a dumbass.
The Answer
December 16th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by Vlad
So how much money have non-jew holocaust survivors gotten? Jews have supposedly milked trillions. What about non-jews?
Oy Vey!!! "suggest"...pontificate, ruminate, discuss, have a meeting, take a vote, get a consensus, notify the Rabbi's!!!
In the meantime the jews bilk billions from White taxpayors to fund their phoney holohoax schemes!
Fuck you kikes!!!
ITZ COMING!
It's this shit that just makes me giggle. THIS is your movement.
Colonel-Voltz
December 16th, 2003, 11:02 PM
"perfect track record"? Please, you have nothing but a William Peirce fan club, a few message boards, a string of pedophilia, other various criminalities, and failure.
No, of course you do not, you just want to use the one relatively insignificant marker of skin color. You are just slapping some science that you think fits onto your old ignorant racism to try to jazz it up a bit.
And before you tell me that race is not just skin color tell me what race this girl is and why:
There's more to race than just skin color. In some cases there are noticeable physical differences, such as bone structure or widened nostrils. Some of the differences are genetic and psychological and therefore, cannot be identified without conducting scientific research/testing. The girl in that picture would probably be classified as a mix upon inspection without the aid of any scientific instruments or tests.
Also if the majority of Americans enjoy living among other races then why do property values tend to drop when 'colored' people move into white neighborhoods?
Steve B
December 17th, 2003, 12:04 AM
It's this shit that just makes me giggle. THIS is your movement.
"Giggles" are for women, little man. No secrets on the internet. Think before you speak or act while hiding behind your computer.
Someday soon you may get a tap on the shoulder from a very large and dangerous White Man. He won't be intimidated by "giggles"!
Have a nice day!
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 12:20 AM
"Giggles" are for women, little man.
Fine. Hah hah hah. Happy now?
No secrets on the internet. Think before you speak or act while hiding behind your computer.
Woooooohhhh!
Someday soon you may get a tap on the shoulder from a very large and dangerous White Man. He won't be intimidated by "giggles"!
Have a nice day!
Eat my ass, hotshot. Anyone dumb enough to commit a crime based on getting his shit trashed on an internet forum--and to foreshadow doing it by posting it beforehand--is just dumb enough to be a... (guess!)
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 17th, 2003, 12:54 AM
because you had denied Jewish involvement in the Ukrainian holocaust.
Where? No where.
Steve B
December 17th, 2003, 01:19 AM
Fine. Hah hah hah. Happy now?
Woooooohhhh!
Eat my ass, hotshot. Anyone dumb enough to commit a crime based on getting his shit trashed on an internet forum--and to foreshadow doing it by posting it beforehand--is just dumb enough to be a... (guess!)
Do you really think you are protected? On Talmudvision you call the cops and they show up 5 minutes later. On Talmudvision you call the thought police to report a "hate crime" and the perp is jailed within 1 day. Do you really think thats how things work?
On jerry springer the KKK are bafoons, on MTV the Aryan Brotherhood is always portrayed as being one-uped by those magnificent negroes, on Dateline the "neo-Nazi's" are only number in the half-dozen, Barbara Walters says The Order is no more, Hammerskins and skinheads are just a youthful group going through adolescents.
Do you think thats reality? Do you think this is a game?
Mr. Giggles...you are woefully misinformed!
Paul
December 17th, 2003, 03:08 AM
The Answer can't seem to make a post without referring to the Hollycost or throwing out schoolboy insults. As I've said before, you people don't know a joo when you see one. You've got to get off the interent a little more often and see the real world. I mean, he started this thread with a few easily provable lies and you all took the bait.
Hey The Answer, here's a question for you. Why do jooz look like rats? Here's another one. Why are jooz hated everywhere they go? Come on now, call me an idiot and tell me how I live in a trailer and screw my sister. That'll make you feel better.
You know, I always wonder how you jooz are able to reproduce at all. I mean, how the hell can you get an erection for one of those ugly miserable kike women?
OnYourKneesNiggerBoy
December 17th, 2003, 03:19 AM
Picture of Paul's 'Aryan' girlfriend. Jesus H. Christ is all I can say. http://www.uglypeople.com/uploaded/18609/dog1.jpg
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 03:28 AM
To the answ er
Damn boy answer me this … whats big, White mean and tattooed that’s lookin for yo ass? He he he. Having some problems with the boyz, huh? Didn’t your mommy teach you how to play nice with yer mates? You know, you should treat people with respect and then you will be treated likewise in return. These are White men here, not niggers so if you act respectfully you will be treated with respect. So, I have your answer for you answer about the WWII dead in case youre interested … according to the American Battle Monument Commission, 405,399 mostly White (my addition) dead and out of those 78,976 MIA … not the ‘millions’ you erroneously posted (wishful thinking on your part traitor?), but still a lot of White men who would never live to have kids, families LIVES. I wonder if those four hundred thousand would agree with your politics, or mine after seeing what America has become since WWII. I would venture a guess they would mostly fall in my corner. You can read what a contemporary of theirs, none other than Gen George Patton wrote in his diary of his feelings about jews and niggers, oh I guess he was just another ignorant redneck too huh? Well answer, you never did answer any of my questions, but I kinda knew all along that you were not here for discussion, you were just here to spew your ignorant, unoriginal pee-cee drivel and lamely attack WN’s just like most anti’s, and the anti’s had better send another answer to this board cause you aren’t it buddy … you cant cut it. Good Luck you’re gonna need it
T.Garrett
“is anti-semitism ever the result of jewish behavior?”
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 03:32 AM
That's one ugly bitch there man. Is it a corpse or is it live?
HenryHaysExecutioner
December 17th, 2003, 03:54 AM
The Answer can't seem to make a post without referring to the Hollycost or throwing out schoolboy insults. As I've said before, you people don't know a joo when you see one. You've got to get off the interent a little more often and see the real world. I mean, he started this thread with a few easily provable lies and you all took the bait.
Hey The Answer, here's a question for you. Why do jooz look like rats? Here's another one. Why are jooz hated everywhere they go? Come on now, call me an idiot and tell me how I live in a trailer and screw my sister. That'll make you feel better.
You know, I always wonder how you jooz are able to reproduce at all. I mean, how the hell can you get an erection for one of those ugly miserable kike women?
You should realize that all of your "jew this", "jew that", "he's a Jew", "shes a Jew" amounts to nothing more than a disgusting mental circle jerk. Very few people care, and most of them are here or on stormfront typing their fingers away and making fools of themselves like you.
willfiron
December 17th, 2003, 04:06 AM
You should realize that all of your "jew this", "jew that", "he's a Jew", "shes a Jew" amounts to nothing more than a disgusting mental circle jerk.
Much like your posts?
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:11 AM
In Post #45, The Answer wrote:
"On the Ukranian holocaust, that's Communists, not Jews."
Wow, takes a bit of creative thinking here, but OK, I can see how you are confused. Right. There were Jewish Communists. They participated in the forced rural collectivization in the Ukraine, and it was terrible and all that. What I was objecting to was "jewish led bolshevik purge of millions in the Ukraine in the 1930’s." The key here is "jewish led bolshevik." That should be "Bolshevik." There were Jews in the movement, but the implication here is stronger. It shouldn't be. Blame Bolsheviks, not Jews.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:15 AM
Do you really think you are protected? On Talmudvision you call the cops and they show up 5 minutes later. On Talmudvision you call the thought police to report a "hate crime" and the perp is jailed within 1 day. Do you really think thats how things work?
On jerry springer the KKK are bafoons, on MTV the Aryan Brotherhood is always portrayed as being one-uped by those magnificent negroes, on Dateline the "neo-Nazi's" are only number in the half-dozen, Barbara Walters says The Order is no more, Hammerskins and skinheads are just a youthful group going through adolescents.
Do you think thats reality? Do you think this is a game?
Mr. Giggles...you are woefully misinformed!
Well, seeing as I've seen dick from you all besides a couple of ill-attended protests in rural PA and the random property crime, I'm pretty confident. But I should probably be careful, right? You never know when "der ewige Weissnazionaler" will rise up!
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:18 AM
The Answer can't seem to make a post without referring to the Hollycost or throwing out schoolboy insults. As I've said before, you people don't know a joo when you see one.
Neither do you. I'm not Jewish. Stupid WN.
You've got to get off the interent a little more often and see the real world. I mean, he started this thread with a few easily provable lies and you all took the bait.
That's because this place is populated by fools.
Hey The Answer, here's a question for you. Why do jooz look like rats?
Speaking of schoolboy insults...
Here's another one. Why are jooz hated everywhere they go? Come on now, call me an idiot and tell me how I live in a trailer and screw my sister. That'll make you feel better.
You might live in a real house and hold a real job and keep it out of the family, but you're still an idiot.
You know, I always wonder how you jooz are able to reproduce at all. I mean, how the hell can you get an erection for one of those ugly miserable kike women?
Speaking of schoolboy insults...
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:21 AM
To the answ er
Damn boy answer me this … whats big, White mean and tattooed that’s lookin for yo ass? He he he. Having some problems with the boyz, huh?
You mean by the children here on this forum?
Didn’t your mommy teach you how to play nice with yer mates? You know, you should treat people with respect and then you will be treated likewise in return. These are White men here, not niggers so if you act respectfully you will be treated with respect. So, I have your answer for you answer about the WWII dead in case youre interested … according to the American Battle Monument Commission, 405,399 mostly White (my addition) dead and out of those 78,976 MIA … not the ‘millions’ you erroneously posted (wishful thinking on your part traitor?),
You really are an idiot. I'm glad that more weren't killed.
but still a lot of White men who would never live to have kids, families LIVES. I wonder if those four hundred thousand would agree with your politics, or mine after seeing what America has become since WWII.
I wonder too.
I would venture a guess they would mostly fall in my corner.
And I guess otherwise. Remember how they fought the Nazis?
You can read what a contemporary of theirs, none other than Gen George Patton wrote in his diary of his feelings about jews and niggers, oh I guess he was just another ignorant redneck too huh?
If he wrote what you're implying, yes he was.
Well answer, you never did answer any of my questions, but I kinda knew all along that you were not here for discussion, you were just here to spew your ignorant, unoriginal pee-cee drivel and lamely attack WN’s just like most anti’s, and the anti’s had better send another answer to this board cause you aren’t it buddy … you cant cut it. Good Luck you’re gonna need it
T.Garrett
“is anti-semitism ever the result of jewish behavior?”
And here you go prattling on. You've gotten me totally wrong so far, all across the board.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:34 AM
Hey answer
So what am I so wrong about?
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Hey answer
So why are you against Whites having a country exclusively for Whites?
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 11:45 AM
Hey answer
So what am I so wrong about?
T.Garrett
Well, let's see. You've called me a traitor, you've thought that I was the type of person who supports Israel, you thought that I can't go against establishment political rhetoric.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 11:46 AM
Hey answer
So why are you against Whites having a country exclusively for Whites?
T.Garrett
I'm not. I just don't want to live in it. I want to live here. If you want a country exclusively for whites, go somewhere else.
Randolph
December 17th, 2003, 11:56 AM
I'm not. I just don't want to live in it. I want to live here. If you want a country exclusively for whites, go somewhere else.
The exclusive country for whites will occur when whites take back their right to trade among themselves and tell multi-culturalists to go to hell when they cry racism when we do not wish to trade with non-whites.
Answer, a white-only culture may develop right in your neighborhood once the black no longer have federally supported jobs to go to. Now what? You will either have to go along with the majority of the market in your neighborhood or move along and find that multicultural heaven somewhere else.
I will wish you luck in that situation because blacks and other minorities are the most racist groups you will encounter. You are arguing against those who could be your only friends in the future. The black man and hispanic man have declared war against the white man but you refuse to see beyond the diversity rhetoric.
juanster74
December 17th, 2003, 11:59 AM
Obviously this "white" person has fallen victim to the tee vee jew loving virus that has infected 95% of this country. By this person calling himself a "White" person he has bought into the jew's plan to keep everybody in ignorant bliss by classifying themselves as a certain racial group rather than calling themselves "human beings." I bet this person is basing his conclusions and stereotypes on the jew's spoon feeding him the seperatist mentality via Jerry Springer and other programs like it. This bombardment of the senses is geared to making Aryans look like red neck, ignorant and toothless KKK members, which they are not. Aztecs as re-conquistador, MEChA radical and parasitic, which they are not. Africans as gang banging, drug dealing killers which many are not. True, every "ethnic" group has its John Wayne Gacys, Richard Ramirezes and Kevin Coopers which bring shame and disgust and feul the stereotypes. However, law abiding, educated and elightened people like Alex Linder, Ernst Zundel, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Dr. Armando Navarro and Ernesto Cienfuegos should be the standards by which their respective "ethnicities" should model themselves. This whole concept of "racism" and "racial discrimination" was invented in the early 1900's by the ADL B'nai B'rith. Those who dare to be educated should click on Wolzek's Terror Timeline and make their own decisions. This timeline is based on FACT not felling. The person who wrote this very hateful and typical analysis of the truth is obviously not "White" but a jew in a "White's" skin.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 12:38 PM
Dear answer
Looking back over the last 227 years of American history, it seems to me that any greatness connected to the US is tied to its overwhelming majority of Whites up and until the immigration laws were changed in the 1960’s. Please name me any scientific advance, social watershed, or any event you feel is positive in relation to White Americans since they ‘nobly’ opened the door to the non-white world as no other dominant society has before in history to people who are so unlike themselves in appearance, culture and temperament. Please name any ‘great achievements’ connected to non-whites since, say 1970 that would not have come about if they were not present and why you feel it is worth mentioning … later
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 01:01 PM
Dear answer
Looking back over the last 227 years of American history, it seems to me that any greatness connected to the US is tied to its overwhelming majority of Whites up and until the immigration laws were changed in the 1960’s. Please name me any scientific advance, social watershed, or any event you feel is positive in relation to White Americans since they ‘nobly’ opened the door to the non-white world as no other dominant society has before in history to people who are so unlike themselves in appearance, culture and temperament. Please name any ‘great achievements’ connected to non-whites since, say 1970 that would not have come about if they were not present and why you feel it is worth mentioning … later
T.Garrett
Well. Let's see. We could go with David Ho, the virologist. We could go with Major General Ricardo Sanchez. We have Colin Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Clarence Thomas, whatever.
The question you ask is ridiculous. I can name any number of famous, accomplished (or whatever) African Americans. Your question is essentially would things have been BETTER without them. We can never know the answer to that question. I think that it's apparent that non-whites are capable of participating productively in society. End of discussion.
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 01:11 PM
To: The Answer
Subject: ignorant cannot be used as an accurate discription of most White Nationalists.
I am bringing this up because I hate to see other “intellectual” individuals using a word when they are ignorant of its meaning.
ignorant:1 a : destitute of knowledge or education b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence
Clearly many of the White Nationalists that have posted in this thread have an education that seems to be of a higher quality then your own. Some of the White Nationalists of past times certainly had an education that surpassed your own by far. Many also had an intellect that was superior to your own. The fact is, you seem to use the term ignorant to describe someone who is racist. It is grammitcly incorrect to use the word ignorant to discribe someone who is racist. How do I know this? Just read the definition I included in this post for your own educational benefit. Yes, that's right, for your own educatinal benefit. I guess I just can't give up on some fellow Aryans who have yet to see the error of their ways. (that would be you) You can thank me later.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 01:53 PM
To: The Answer
Subject: ignorant cannot be used as an accurate discription of most White Nationalists.
I am bringing this up because I hate to see other “intellectual” individuals using a word when they are ignorant of its meaning.
ignorant:1 a : destitute of knowledge or education b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence
Clearly many of the White Nationalists that have posted in this thread have an education that seems to be of a higher quality then your own. Some of the White Nationalists of past times certainly had an education that surpassed your own by far. Many also had an intellect that was superior to your own. The fact is, you seem to use the term ignorant to describe someone who is racist. It is grammitcly incorrect to use the word ignorant to discribe someone who is racist. How do I know this? Just read the definition I included in this post for your own educational benefit. Yes, that's right, for your own educatinal benefit. I guess I just can't give up on some fellow Aryans who have yet to see the error of their ways. (that would be you) You can thank me later.
What a stupid WN. (Wanna give me a definition of that too?) If you show a lack of knowledge of intelligence, then I can call you ignorant. You can be ignorant whether or not you're a racist.
In post number 59 of this thread, I used the term "ign'ernt." Yes, that's "ignorant." I used it to describe T. Garrett. He was ignorant about my views, displaying a "lack of knowledge" regarding what I think. Thus, he's ignorant. Now, shut up you fucking moron before you embarrass yourself further.
There should be some sort of "read the thread" function that forces dumbasses like this to read the whole thread before they spew off their garbage.
Want me to comment on your spelling and grammar? Didn't think so.
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 02:12 PM
Are you serious? These men are involved in politics (the military is a part of politics) and so they are not "eminent" in any objective sense -- certainly General Sanchez and Powell have not proved themselves to be Napoleons. Fighting Iraq as the wealthiest nation in the world -- and struggling with many casualties while you are at it -- is not the same as conquering virtually all of Europe.
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Clearly he is serious, because he is ignorant of the history of human conflict. If he wanted to mention a non-white that achieved something great; he would have mentioned Ghengis Kahn.
Also, I fail to see how I have embarrassed myself though, I think I just embarrassed you.(The Answer) The reason I'm not embarrassed is because I know most of the people here have a good idea regarding your ideology. Most of the people here have simply chosen to reject that ideology, and therefore, are not ignorant.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 02:22 PM
Certainly there are non-Whites who have made great contributions -- but the contributions in America in terms of its intellectual and scientific life have been disproportionately from Whites. Slavery and discrimination likely created barriers for Blacks, but even without those barriers Blacks have not been able to produce a truly eminent scientist or philosopher. As far as writing is concerned, this is more subjective and mediocrities can be elevated to high ranks given political fads. One way to see if Blacks are really inferior is to observe them in Africa where no one can logically blame Whites for their inability to utilize their abundant resources. This doesn't even get into IQ scores -- Blacks are stuck a standard deviation below Whites in America. Moreover, no one ever said that the Northeast Asians are dumb.
Are you serious? These men are involved in politics (the military is a part of politics) and so they are not "eminent" in any objective sense -- certainly General Sanchez and Powell have not proved themselves to be Napoleons. Fighting Iraq as the wealthiest nation in the world -- and struggling with many casualties while you are at it -- is not the same as conquering virtually all of Europe.
No one is arguing that some Blacks and other non-Whites are not capable of "participating productively" in society.
Well, good.
What the "White Nationalists" (and I am not among them) are arguing is that generally speaking minorities in the U.S. tend to be less successful and make less contributions than Whites.
Read T.Garrett's question. I was answering it.
Again, waiting for a "read the fucking thread" button to appear so I can press it.
You mean "fewer contributions?"
Your counterarguments have neither been effective nor persuasive.
Except for the fact that they answer T.Garrett's questions precisely. What you might want to talk about is irrelevant.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 02:40 PM
Also, I fail to see how I have embarrassed myself though, I think I just embarrassed you.(The Answer) The reason I'm not embarrassed is because I know most of the people here have a good idea regarding your ideology. Most of the people here have simply chosen to reject that ideology, and therefore, are not ignorant.
You embarrass yourself when 1) you attempt to be high and mighty and 2) I take a huge dump on your argument, leaving you unable to reply.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 02:45 PM
Making assumptions dumbass Ph.D? Well, you're assumption is wrong, dumbass.
So you don't have a high school diploma?
Did you proofread your doctoral thesis, dumbass? Or were you a fucking moron about that as well?
Yeah, I proofread that. See, that's important.
Not for long.
What, PhDs? Your plan for utopia includes getting rid of the PhDs too?
Here's something even funnier: An alleged Ph.D desperately resorting to simple-minded name-calling instead of focusing dignified discussion toward rational answers, a typical jew smear tactic.
Hmm. "Read the thread." That would sure be nice. When people talk intelligently, I reply back intelligently. When I see idiots, I call you names.
Don't work here, though. Dumbasses like you coming here reminds me of living creatures falling into a South American river full of pirahnas. Not a pretty sight!
Oh yeah, I forgot, I'm in YOUR house now, better watch out! This is where the truth resides, where all discussion is rational, and where you WNs get to play commandant and boss around the antis. Whew, you all have showed me a thing or two!
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 02:58 PM
You embarrass yourself when 1) you attempt to be high and mighty and 2) I take a huge dump on your argument, leaving you unable to reply.
Well, The Answer, or should I say 20/400, you did not leave me unable to reply. (*looks back to make sure he did in fact reply to that post*) Yep, I replied.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 03:44 PM
Dear answer
You posted
Well. Let's see. We could go with David Ho, the virologist. We could go with Major General Ricardo Sanchez. We have Colin Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Clarence Thomas, whatever.
The question you ask is ridiculous. I can name any number of famous, accomplished (or whatever) African Americans. Your question is essentially would things have been BETTER without them. We can never know the answer to that question. I think that it's apparent that non-whites are capable of participating productively in society. End of discussion.
Many WN are well aware of East Asian intelligence and capabilities, and I do note that you mention David Ho first. Answer, you think like a WN whether you want to admit it or not. And all of these examples you note had the benefit of a White created American society to support them to become people of note. These are your examples of greatness? Ha!
My grandfather was born in 1900, and from 1900 to 1940, in 40 years he saw tremendous advancement in our all WHITE America, and White Europe as well, from horse carriages to aircraft carriers and rockets and television, as an example. From 1940 to 1969, 29 years White America went even further, they went to the moon. The first human footprint on another planet was made by a White male American! Note also that it was White nations, and now East Asians (all practically mono-racial) who took the first steps into space. What does all this mean, multi-culti answer man?
Now, take the period, say 1969 to the present day, 34 years. My father's heyday. More time than it took from the beginning of WWII to the moon walk, and almost horse and buggy to aircraft carriers and television. Look dispassionately at how our society has ‘progressed’, don’t cite me how this non-white or that one has ‘excelled’ in our White created and built America which is meaningless to the overall state of our society. It is really a symptom of its decadence. Now realize here I only cite cutting edge tech which need a sophisticated intelligently directed support system as examples. Today, we can’t even keep the space shuttle flying; rockets at Vandenberg and Kennedy explode on the pad or shortly after launch in flight, our Mars mission, which cost billions, a dismal fucking failure. And our ‘contributions’ to the International Space Station are pieces of junk that don’t work right and the only way on or off of it is the Russian designed and operated transportation system which works reliably enough. Note Russia is an overwhelmingly White nation. Our poor multi-culti politicized NASA can’t keep its craft flying, and is becoming a danger to those of us who live on the ground beneath its inept operations. And analogous to this, think of the condition our nuclear rocket forces must be in, I very seriously doubt that our 1960’s or 1980’s vintage ICBM’s maintained by our multi-culti USAF will be considered a grave threat to anyone who in the near future will want to do serious harm to the population of the continental US.
Look at our society and it’s degenerate tastes and morality, turn on the tee vee or go watch a movie and the filth, hate and mockery of decency drove me from the ‘news and entertainment’ media long ago. Sexual perversion and anti-White male propaganda are the rule, rather than the occasional exception. In the ‘bad ol White days’ before 1965, this nonsense would have been illegal. Is this some of the ‘progress’ we have had since letting your precious non-white darlings into our midst? The crime level in our cities is so staggeringly high (mostly non-white generated) that the government constantly has to ‘adjust’ and cook the stats to conform to the lie promulgated in the mass media that ‘everything is ok’ and they ‘have control’, bullshit this is a society on the verge of anarchy. You always hear how the US is so ‘powerful’ today, why is it that the only ‘enemies’ that our great multi-culti government beats up on are small, starving countries and it doesn’t dare fuck with the strong ones. There is no Anglo Saxon sense of fair play left in this English speaking government which as each day passes more resembles a third world dictatorship. Because it isn’t White, I have seen evidence that our fedgov is over 50% non-white in its demographic makeup. In a few years after some more non-white nepotism brings in more of their kind to inept public service, this US fedgov will be even more of a non-white tyranny (gods forbid) upon the White tax slaves it lives off of.
For these and many other reasons, we WN want a White nation of our own, where we can live the life and pursue the happiness our illustrious forbearers deigned for us, and multiply our kind and live in our own culture. Then I believe we will be able to continue on the road to our racial destiny, analogous to the great Whites of old who explored and settled many places on this planet, the exploration of deep space and all that encompasses and signifies to the creature called man, because we believe that of all the races of man, we are the ones most able to this undertaking. Now, nonanswer, that is my opinion and you still haven’t ANSWERED my questions…Later
T.Garrett
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 04:12 PM
Ok, The Answer's opening statements in this thread have long since been proven to be inaccurate. By now, despite his slight lack of intellectual sophistication, he should know the primary objective of most White Nationalists. The objective is best described by one word, preservation. Mainly the preservation of the Aryan race and culture. His primary objective seems to be to convince us that our primary objective is iniquity. As of yet he has failed to complete this objective. In many cases this failure can be attributed to the fact he has put little effort into actually attacking the credibility of our primary objective. Insted The Answer seems to focus more on attacking spelling and grammatical errors. My guess is he does this, because this form of attack requires minimal investment in time and intellectual resource. In some cases he has also argued how his objectives are lucid, but he still has not made a serious attempt to debunk our primary objective. I request that the pissing contest end, and that The Answer starts enlightening us, if that's even possible, as to why White Nationalism is immoral based on the principles stated above.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 04:54 PM
Dear Colonel
That answer kid is way behind the curve, you know somebody can be educated and be one stupid motherfucker, I know lots of them He doesn’t even know who and what he is, that raceless White boy spouting his racial enemies agitprop. I curse to my racial gods the day the ‘mass media’ joos here found expression for their judeocentric social engineering in the fucking tee vee, the weapon these sneaky kikes have turned on us, for their advantage and profit, it’s like a fucking drug it is. I drive through suburban neighborhoods at night and see the flashing of this hypnotic electric joo in every window, rich or poor, all bow before this fucking electronic god and give it relevance it doesn’t deserve. We need a White television channel, like a WNN to get our message of emancipation of the White man to these cretins, but so far no rich White man steps to the plate. Can you imagine a White network, nigger jokes and joo jokes, White centered news programming, alternative history, beautiful White women (the non-whites would watch too), White sit coms and tee vee shows where we mock our enemies the way they do us. God, this would make BILLIONS just capitalizing on the latent White backlash out there from 40 years of anti-White pro minority programming in the joo media. Then we could have those kunt politicians in DC sucking our cocks with that kind of money. Think of it. I know what these rich Whites are afraid of, Mel Gibson stated it himself once when he was responding to joo criticism of his mild movie ‘Passion’, which hasn’t even been released yet and already a year in advance the dicksnippers were all over him screeching ‘anti semitism’ LOL , he said he thought the joos would KILL HIM AND HIS FAMILY!! Shit, this is the kind of fucked up judeo-society we live in and we Whites better pull our heads out of our ass and grow a pair of nutz and get these fucking parasites off our necks. We need WHITE TEE VEE, fuckin PRIME TIME!! Fuck this internet bullshit, we need to connect with our people with the full power electronic hookup.
Later cousin
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 05:04 PM
Well, The Answer, or should I say 20/400,
What the hell are you talking about?
you did not leave me unable to reply. (*looks back to make sure he did in fact reply to that post*) Yep, I replied.
Well, you could reply, but only by changing the subject. Idiot.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 05:07 PM
This is what T. Garrett wrote:
"Please name any ‘great achievements’ connected to non-whites since, say 1970 that would not have come about if they were not present and why you feel it is worth mentioning."
You mentioned General Sanchez and Colin Powell, for example, and I pointed out (although in other words) that what they have done objectively are not really "great achievements" because (1) they have not accomplished anything extraordinary in any military sense (certainly nowhere near the great generals in history) and (2) they are figures tied to politics, where what is "great" is mere opinion.
It's always mere opinion. That's why I named them. See?
In the case of the second point, a lot of people are opposed to the war and believe that it was based on lies (such as the allegation of Iraq possessing WMDs).
True enough.
Not to mention, I notice you are nitpicking on others' alleged spelling and grammar errors while making your own.
Way to go. Now, can we drop the grammar bullshit? I didn't start it.
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 05:11 PM
That may be true, but it isn't very clear. If all you really want is preservation, then why the threads on “nigger monsters” who kill kids? Why the threads on how the black man never invented anything? Why threads on how the jew wants to kill all white families through MTV and miscegenation?
If you really want preservation you’d be speaking of the good aspects of your culture, and not the bad of others.
Well, wouldn't you consider anyone who kills defenseless children to be a monster? I'm not sure of the exact motive behind 'the black man never invented anything thread.' My guess is, its creator intended to help reinforce the face that we(Aryans) don't have much to lose by segregating our selves from those people. I also don't see how jews can kill people though MTV or miscegenation however, jews do seem to promote miscegenation. Fact miscegenation threatens the long term survival of the Aryan race and culture as we know it today. Miscegenation also threatens the existence of other cultures. (you can go and find some of the links I posted near the beginning of this thread for more information regarding Miscegenation) Some the positive aspects of our culture have already been brought up numerous times and should be obvious to most people.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 05:11 PM
Dear answer
You posted
Well. Let's see. We could go with David Ho, the virologist. We could go with Major General Ricardo Sanchez. We have Colin Powell, Thurgood Marshall, Clarence Thomas, whatever.
The question you ask is ridiculous. I can name any number of famous, accomplished (or whatever) African Americans. Your question is essentially would things have been BETTER without them. We can never know the answer to that question. I think that it's apparent that non-whites are capable of participating productively in society. End of discussion.
Many WN are well aware of East Asian intelligence and capabilities, and I do note that you mention David Ho first. Answer, you think like a WN whether you want to admit it or not. And all of these examples you note had the benefit of a White created American society to support them to become people of note. These are your examples of greatness? Ha!
My grandfather was born in 1900, and from 1900 to 1940, in 40 years he saw tremendous advancement in our all WHITE America, and White Europe as well, from horse carriages to aircraft carriers and rockets and television, as an example. From 1940 to 1969, 29 years White America went even further, they went to the moon. The first human footprint on another planet was made by a White male American! Note also that it was White nations, and now East Asians (all practically mono-racial) who took the first steps into space. What does all this mean, multi-culti answer man?
Now, take the period, say 1969 to the present day, 34 years. My father's heyday. More time than it took from the beginning of WWII to the moon walk, and almost horse and buggy to aircraft carriers and television. Look dispassionately at how our society has ‘progressed’, don’t cite me how this non-white or that one has ‘excelled’ in our White created and built America which is meaningless to the overall state of our society. It is really a symptom of its decadence. Now realize here I only cite cutting edge tech which need a sophisticated intelligently directed support system as examples. Today, we can’t even keep the space shuttle flying; rockets at Vandenberg and Kennedy explode on the pad or shortly after launch in flight, our Mars mission, which cost billions, a dismal fucking failure. And our ‘contributions’ to the International Space Station are pieces of junk that don’t work right and the only way on or off of it is the Russian designed and operated transportation system which works reliably enough. Note Russia is an overwhelmingly White nation. Our poor multi-culti politicized NASA can’t keep its craft flying, and is becoming a danger to those of us who live on the ground beneath its inept operations. And analogous to this, think of the condition our nuclear rocket forces must be in, I very seriously doubt that our 1960’s or 1980’s vintage ICBM’s maintained by our multi-culti USAF will be considered a grave threat to anyone who in the near future will want to do serious harm to the population of the continental US.
Look at our society and it’s degenerate tastes and morality, turn on the tee vee or go watch a movie and the filth, hate and mockery of decency drove me from the ‘news and entertainment’ media long ago. Sexual perversion and anti-White male propaganda are the rule, rather than the occasional exception. In the ‘bad ol White days’ before 1965, this nonsense would have been illegal. Is this some of the ‘progress’ we have had since letting your precious non-white darlings into our midst? The crime level in our cities is so staggeringly high (mostly non-white generated) that the government constantly has to ‘adjust’ and cook the stats to conform to the lie promulgated in the mass media that ‘everything is ok’ and they ‘have control’, bullshit this is a society on the verge of anarchy. You always hear how the US is so ‘powerful’ today, why is it that the only ‘enemies’ that our great multi-culti government beats up on are small, starving countries and it doesn’t dare fuck with the strong ones. There is no Anglo Saxon sense of fair play left in this English speaking government which as each day passes more resembles a third world dictatorship. Because it isn’t White, I have seen evidence that our fedgov is over 50% non-white in its demographic makeup. In a few years after some more non-white nepotism brings in more of their kind to inept public service, this US fedgov will be even more of a non-white tyranny (gods forbid) upon the White tax slaves it lives off of.
For these and many other reasons, we WN want a White nation of our own, where we can live the life and pursue the happiness our illustrious forbearers deigned for us, and multiply our kind and live in our own culture. Then I believe we will be able to continue on the road to our racial destiny, analogous to the great Whites of old who explored and settled many places on this planet, the exploration of deep space and all that encompasses and signifies to the creature called man, because we believe that of all the races of man, we are the ones most able to this undertaking. Now, nonanswer, that is my opinion and you still haven’t ANSWERED my questions…Later
T.Garrett
I'm sure you don't like it here. But we can name any number of things that are great that have happened since 1969. The explosion of microtechnology and biotechnology. Great advances in health care and the sciences. Any number of things. The progress of technology is still ever increasing at an exponential rate, you just don't see it because it is so seamlessly woven into your daily life. You're just used to it.
You still don't like it? Go somewhere else.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 05:13 PM
Ok, The Answer's opening statements in this thread have long since been proven to be inaccurate. By now, despite his slight lack of intellectual sophistication, he should know the primary objective of most White Nationalists. The objective is best described by one word, preservation. Mainly the preservation of the Aryan race and culture. His primary objective seems to be to convince us that our primary objective is iniquity. As of yet he has failed to complete this objective. In many cases this failure can be attributed to the fact he has put little effort into actually attacking the credibility of our primary objective. Insted The Answer seems to focus more on attacking spelling and grammatical errors. My guess is he does this, because this form of attack requires minimal investment in time and intellectual resource. In some cases he has also argued how his objectives are lucid, but he still has not made a serious attempt to debunk our primary objective. I request that the pissing contest end, and that The Answer starts enlightening us, if that's even possible, as to why White Nationalism is immoral based on the principles stated above.
Another load of crap. Preservation, fine. I like it. But you start from that simple beginning and go wild with it. That's the problem.
Another one of your dumbass strawmen.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 05:20 PM
Answer
You still didn’t answer the question. All these ‘advances’ you speak of, most are as a result of the White space exploration effort in the 1960’s, so where is your great breakthrough that proves that there is scientific progress in any field in your dumbed down jewniversities and research facilities. Well, anyway here’s a clue, clueless the Colonel refered to your eyesight, LOL moron, with the 20/400 posting. Youre a myopic dumbass he he he
T.Garrett
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 06:59 PM
Although there are two Colonels now, permit me to be the first to compliment you on your eloquence here and also for your patience with the idiot/savant par excellence, you-know-who.
You are absolutely correct, in order to make significant headway towards racial nationalism, we must first be able to reach the bulk of our salvageable race. This involves gaining control of some form of effective communication, a TV station would be enough for now. However, because of the expense and because the system is geared against real free speech, this may be impossible for the short term. Instead, perhaps we can utilize the much-more-affordable Internet as Ben Vinyard is doing with WRTV. Perhaps we should support WRTV (yes, that means financial support, not praying to judeo-God) as much as we can afford right now. Things are happening right now, folks, at WRTV, and I'm sure any support would be welcomed. With regards to WRTV, allow me to make a suggestion: institute paid sponsors, just like the big jew network news programming. Yes, commercials even! That's the formula, that's what made prime time news and jews successful. Whatever they can do, we can do better!
I agree, T.Garrett has conducted himself in a most professional manner despite The Answers total lack of professionalism. Kurtz has also conducted himself well when dealing with The Answers; despite the complete lack of quality answers he received from The Answers. I feel that in a way we have failed, because a fellow Aryan(The Answers) is still a kike chattel. He fights his own though, deep down he knows he doesn't want to.(subconsciously ) I know this, because he fights for the kike without the passion of a true believer. I have already aknowledged the two people who have really fought for what the believed in, in this thread.(T.Garrett & Kurtz) I know they are true believers, because I could sense the passion in their arguments. I can only hope one day The Answers will see the error of his way and break free from the kike propaganda which has acted as shackles for his mind.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 07:34 PM
Greetings to you Colonel Kurtz
Yes I was posting to Voltz, but I do appreciate your response and likewise, I have enjoyed what I have read also in your posts. A while back, I worked in the jew tee vee biz here in NYC, but moved on to greener pastures as I was the wrong ‘ethnicity’ to get anywhere in that kikish shit pile. Always the epithet, ‘too bad you’re not jewish’, the gefilte stunk to high heaven, the arrogant jew women and their whiny, cocksucking bullshit (they have more ballz than the jewboys LOL), the tv biz backstabbing I could write endlessly about it but it would just be mental masturbation. Until that blessed day comez when I can legally twist the fucking neck of one or more of the spawn of satan and cease their waste of my gods good air, Ill just have to can it. Ah, sorry Colonel. I kind of got off topic here. Anyhow, as with any commercial venture in our blessed country, you need money, either you’re own or the banks. And guess who’s at the bank? He he he. I would love to walk into Shittybank, just as a joke, and talk Mr. Shitstain up on my Business plan for a White tee vee channel, Oy I bet he would call the ADL while stroking his little pecker under the desk after I exited his office guffawin my ass off. Oy vey, the descwimination, it should be a hate crime! Actually, a really smart hebe would see the dollar signs there, well then here goes that ol deal of dealin with the devil. I don’t do business with mr jew anymore if I can avoid it. The optimum scenario would be to find some filthy rich WN who has the balls to confront the kikes on their own turf with a medium, lets face it, they developed to the mindfucking level of art form as opposed to our more ‘conventional’ natural expressions of creative effort, the ashkenazim’s twisted mentality produced the ‘newz and entertainment biz’ and itz jew through and through. And every last yeshiva boy would fight us. Talk about our people being blindsided and not seeing it coming. Kinda like the Christianity they foisted on ancient Roma as a payback for the Senate fucking over their little international gold swindle they had going in Jerusalem, huh? Never forget or forgive you fucking yidz, huh? Well I have a few creative paybacks of my own for you shitstainz. Profitable for me too, they are. And it isn’t selling lampshades either, yidum. Well, where is this gutsy White guy, the WN Ted Turner, who gives a shit about his people even as much as his wealth, he doesn’t seem to be there does he? Considering the kind of bread you could make with an op like this, something more than money is keeping em away. The only thing that keeps people like that away from a potential goldmine like this is fear. The upper crust doesn’t give a ratz ass about ideology, they come to make the greenies, and disappear quickly when the game shits the bed. This is absolutely the most pussy society on this planet, these fucking momma’s boys, I actually have admiration for those fuckin hajjis over there in the ME who strap fuckin C4 or semtex to their bodies and die killing their people deadly enemies. Wait until all these war machines these people here hide behind start breaking down, and Niggus Washington can’t fix em in the field. I hear it’s happening already in Iraq. Bigtime. Anyway, sorry to chew your ear off Colonel sir, I will investigate and consider your WRTV option, but I don’t have much faith in the web as a medium at this time, but then what the hell do I know? Talk to you later cuz say hello anytime
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 07:50 PM
Answer
You still didn’t answer the question. All these ‘advances’ you speak of, most are as a result of the White space exploration effort in the 1960’s, so where is your great breakthrough that proves that there is scientific progress in any field in your dumbed down jewniversities and research facilities. Well, anyway here’s a clue, clueless the Colonel refered to your eyesight, LOL moron, with the 20/400 posting. Youre a myopic dumbass he he he
T.Garrett
Stupid WN. You mean to say that all technological process has been just coasting along as a result of research in the 1960s for the space program? You are dumber than I thought. I gave you examples. I did your job for you. Now if you don't have anything relevant to say, shut up.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 07:53 PM
Oh, I see. Your doctoral thesis was important, but posting here (by insinuation of your last post), is unimportant.
Yes.
Hmmm, interesting. Do you routinely engage in unimportant discussions consuming the better part of a day?
I certainly hope this isn't taking a better part of YOUR day. I can do this in my sleep. Five minutes here or there.
Is your time really so non-valuable? Isn't time = money for you smart Ph.D's? After all, it seems as you have plenty of time for unimportant discussions here, perhaps your alleged Ph.D is just as unimportant, no?
No, my PhD is most important. This is a time-waster. Even PhDs waste time once in a while.
Indeed, you managed to find time for whatever arguments contained within your thesis. Perhaps you are just wasting your time here?
Yes. You DO understand!
It doesn't seem as if your arguments, or lack thereof, have had any discernible effect on the outlook of the resident WN's here, except to further confirm their disgust for dumbass Ph.D's like you. Ptoooey, I spit on you, dreckjuden.
If my arguments have no effect, it further confirms your idiocy. If you were smart, you'd learn. But you shut your ears to the truth. The mark of a true, lifelong dumbass.
I'm done with you. Anyone else?
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Oh, I see. Your doctoral thesis was important, but posting here (by insinuation of your last post), is unimportant. Hmmm, interesting. Do you routinely engage in unimportant discussions consuming the better part of a day? Is your time really so non-valuable? Isn't time = money for you smart Ph.D's? After all, it seems as you have plenty of time for unimportant discussions here, perhaps your alleged Ph.D is just as unimportant, no?
I certainly hope this isn't taking a better part of YOUR day. I can do this in my sleep. Five minutes here or there.
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Yeah, five minutes here or there...
Why is it that these 1.) kikes and 2.) whigger suckers of kike asshole all LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING?
You guys have the patience of saints. Personally, I'd take this piece of filth behind the barn and shoot it.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 08:21 PM
Yeah, five minutes here or there...
Why is it that these 1.) kikes and 2.) whigger suckers of kike asshole all LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING?
You guys have the patience of saints. Personally, I'd take this piece of filth behind the barn and shoot it.
That's right, idiot, five minutes here or there. You know how long it takes me to write a post like this? Twenty seconds. Moron.
Colonel-Voltz
December 17th, 2003, 08:21 PM
Stupid WN. You mean to say that all technological process has been just coasting along as a result of research in the 1960s for the space program? You are dumber than I thought. I gave you examples. I did your job for you. Now if you don't have anything relevant to say, shut up.
Well, actually, it was the result of the cold war. During the cold war the government wanted to create super redundant communication systems that could survive a nuclear attack. As a result ARPANET was born. The research done by ARPANET would eventually give rise to the internet. Shortly after the internet came e-mail.(yes that's right, a group of White guys invented the internet and e-mail) Now people could access information and exchange ideas at a rate that far surpassed any other time in human history. With the rapid exchange of ideas and knowledge comes rapid innovation.
jack_boot
December 17th, 2003, 08:25 PM
So. A PhD.
What is it you are a doctor of, doctor?
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 08:37 PM
That's right, idiot, five minutes here or there. You know how long it takes me to write a post like this? Twenty seconds. Moron.
And this, your 20th, or is it the 21st(?) post of this day! Yeah, a mere bagatelle between your many and varied doctoral duties, no doubt. Very amusing, and by all means pray continue to lose your temper and throw PhD hissy fits. Is your face all red as you quickly (very quickly what with 20 and more posts EACH DAY) type that devastatingly intellectual repartee of yours?
I guess they are right to take PITY on you, what with you being born and bred in front of a jew TV screen and having imbibed the smart assed demeanor that goes with it. A lemming of lemmings right down to the oh-so-hip lingo.
A good long stretch in re-education is what you need, doc. It will take some time with the really stupid ones - so be sure to take a change or two of socks along with your favorite multicultural teddy bear.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:37 PM
So. A PhD.
What is it you are a doctor of, doctor?
Philosophy. That's the Ph. in Ph.D.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 09:38 PM
And this, your 20th, or is it the 21st(?) post of this day! Yeah, a mere bagatelle between your many and varied doctoral duties, no doubt. Very amusing, and by all means pray continue to lose your temper and throw PhD hissy fits. Is your face all red as you quickly (very quickly what with 20 and more posts EACH DAY) type that devastatingly intellectual repartee of yours?
I guess they are right to take PITY on you, what with you being born and bred in front of a jew TV screen and having imbibed the smart assed demeanor that goes with it. A lemming of lemmings right down to the oh-so-hip lingo.
A good long stretch in re-education is what you need, doc. It will take some time with the really stupid ones - so be sure to take a change or two of socks along with your favorite multicultural teddy bear.
Way to go. No substance in your post.
You may excuse yourself. Anyone else?
Steve B
December 17th, 2003, 09:47 PM
Yeah, five minutes here or there...
Why is it that these 1.) kikes and 2.) whigger suckers of kike asshole all LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING?
You guys have the patience of saints. Personally, I'd take this piece of filth behind the barn and shoot it.
Actually I'm not much of a saint. While others were wasting time and effort replying to the little smuck I was doing a little investigative work, starting with the filths IP. You would be suprised the things you can find out about people if you know the right pretense questions to ask an internet Provider. That and a little technical ground work and pretty much anybody can be found even if they use proxies, anonymizers, dsl, cable, satellite, or AOL.
Suffice to say..."The Answer" will shortly be answering for his insults to WN's.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 09:57 PM
To the answer (to the juden’s prayers)
Maybe I had you pegged wrong. I ask you again, are you a jew? Your persistence with this nonsensical, idiotic nebulous attack on WN, why won’t you answer my question as to why you would not want to live in an all White society? Do you hate White people? Years ago, when I was in the thrall of judeo-christianity, I read a phrase in Latin ‘de omnibus dubitandum’, attributed to Descartes, which in English translates ‘all is to be doubted’ roughly, and I thought about the idea, I kind of became obsessed with it and, wouldn’t you know it, the first book I picked up in this frame of mind was a KJV Bible. He he he. I was studying law at SUNY Buffalo at the time and that small Latin phrase was an eye opener for me. With eyes open, never written was a more pornographic and hateful book than the Bible, full of superstitious nonsense and the more I read it the more it disgusted me. I perused some other related volumes of judeo-christianity as well in connection with my studies and with the exception of those written by the great German Martin Luther I found most of the others equally distasteful. Now if Christianity was the tree, what of the root? Well that was the real enlightenment. The ancient stone-age religion called judaism. Perusal of selected gems of this ‘religious tradition’, admittedly translated as I do not read Hebrew, or would ever want to learn, led me to a second enlightenment. You know the joos have a saying that the worst day ever for jews was the day their ‘holy’ books were translated into a language the ‘goyim’ could read. Think on that one, and what it really means, not what joos say about non-jew ‘misunderstanding’ of jooish literature. Oh shit, if I hear one more time about how joos are so ‘misunderstood’ Ill slap the next person I hear say it. What I discovered about this filthy obtuse practice, which should be classified as mental illness, gross superstitions of the most bizarre and in my estimation evil nature, including ritual killing, codified vengeance, racism, obsessive writings on excretory body functions and inexplicable hatred of men by a demon deity led me to the realization that joo-day-ism is No Fuckin Good. You ignorant judeo-christians should really get a grip and find out what judaism is really all about. Joos and their god HATE you. You people actually worship a desert demon named yhwh that the hebrews found whilst wandering in the desert, or maybe he found them, with the evil that emanates off joos I would not be surprised, an evil stench that now turns the whole world against us here in the US as well. You fools give this evil sprit a power in this world he should not have through your belief in the joo jesus and the jewish fairytales in the Bible. I realize that most of you people think you are ‘righteous’ worshipping this voodoo like demon and call him god, but you are sadly misled and mistaken. Good people, turn away from this abomination and worship the god of the White man, holy Reason, which seems to be the forgotten god our people need so much more in their lives than some desert spook and some promise of a ‘heaven’, kind of sounds like the worker’s paradise the jew bolsheviks promised our Russian cousins, joos the people who revile White working people, creating a ‘socialist workers paradise’ for them. Hell, no wonder 30 or so million of them died in the process. Answer, you are either an ignorant fool or a jew and I spit on you and your god as well, ptoooey, go to your gahanna and may your funky god eat your fucking fried gonads for his breakfast.
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Hey answer to the joos prayers
You know it doesn’t really take any brainz to sit there and pick apart WN posts with one or two liners. Or is this the limit of your attention span child? Lets see you post a few lines and well decide on your intelligence or ignorance fool
T.Garrett
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 10:09 PM
Actually I'm not much of a saint. While others were wasting time and effort replying to the little smuck I was doing a little investigative work, starting with the filths IP. You would be suprised the things you can find out about people if you know the right pretense questions to ask an internet Provider. That and a little technical ground work and pretty much anybody can be found even if they use proxies, anonymizers, dsl, cable, satellite, or AOL.
Suffice to say..."The Answer" will shortly be answering for his insults to WN's.
That is really pretty merdy of you Steve...with all due respect and all. To hint like that...and then go and leave the docs fans hanging like this.... And, me just reading a Bill White thread right before this...more drama every minute around here! VNN has got more suspense than a jew Hollywood movie and is way cheaper, too.
jack_boot
December 17th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Philosophy. That's the Ph. in Ph.D.
Well, nominally, yes, but the PhD is awarded for many fields, is it not? Psychology? Physics? Cultural Anthropology? Black Studies? Wymyn's Studies? No doubt there will soon be a chair endowed in Queer Studies at Harvard, and we'll have PhD's of faggotry expounding from the Ivory Tower, speaking of clown college and Hamburger U.
But all that aside, what is your opinion, Doctor of Philosophy, of these serious fields, physics and psychology?
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 10:13 PM
What a magnificent post. My compliments, sir.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 10:21 PM
Greetz
Answer’s no fuckin PhD candidate ...he’s just some little worm wisemouth joo cocksucker using up his free AOL subscription living off his mom and dad. He has stated nothing here of any relevance, and ya know I’m not gonna waste my time with the little shit anymore. He said he wanted debate, but it’s just the same old shit from most of these people, these anti’s … they are not serious. Fuck him. I’m sorry if my postings to him caused any of you to waste your time with him.
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Actually I'm not much of a saint. While others were wasting time and effort replying to the little smuck I was doing a little investigative work, starting with the filths IP. You would be suprised the things you can find out about people if you know the right pretense questions to ask an internet Provider. That and a little technical ground work and pretty much anybody can be found even if they use proxies, anonymizers, dsl, cable, satellite, or AOL.
Suffice to say..."The Answer" will shortly be answering for his insults to WN's.
So. Who am I? Put your money where your mouth is.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 10:26 PM
Well, nominally, yes, but the PhD is awarded for many fields, is it not? Psychology? Physics? Cultural Anthropology? Black Studies? Wymyn's Studies? No doubt there will soon be a chair endowed in Queer Studies at Harvard, and we'll have PhD's of faggotry expounding from the Ivory Tower, speaking of clown college and Hamburger U.
But all that aside, what is your opinion, Doctor of Philosophy, of these serious fields, physics and psychology?
I think that Physics and Psychology are good, but I'm not a PhD in either of them, so I'm no expert. Suffice it to say I have to publish my papers using TeX.
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 10:34 PM
Way to go. No substance in your post.
You may excuse yourself. Anyone else?
Swish! A professional faggot too, eh?
Steve B
December 17th, 2003, 10:35 PM
So. Who am I? Put your money where your mouth is.
That would be telling, little girl!
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 10:37 PM
Answer asswipe
TeX is an archaic leftover from the disco dayz. Cant you do better?
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 10:38 PM
That would be telling, little girl!
Or, it would be you admitting that you have shit.
You're done too. Anyone else?
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 10:39 PM
Answer asswipe
TeX is an archaic leftover from the disco dayz. Cant you do better?
T.Garrett
Still the most viable system of document preparation for people who like to "typeset beautiful documents," especially those with funny characters. It's also the standard in academia.
I already dismissed you.
jack_boot
December 17th, 2003, 10:45 PM
I think that Physics and Psychology are good, but I'm not a PhD in either of them, so I'm no expert. Suffice it to say I have to publish my papers using TeX.
Never heard of it.
At any rate, we all have a respect for the advanced degree, at least in the sciences, and even the mushy fields like theology and philosophy, despite the best efforts of academe to disgrace themselves since the Sixties. This is no doubt why you mentioned your own honors.
So I'm not presuming too much, then, if I say you share this respect for the sciences? That you're willing to consider what your peers have to say, to give the efforts of qualified psychologists, phycisists, biologists and even other philosophers some reasonable consideration?
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 10:46 PM
Never heard of it.
At any rate, we all have a respect for the advanced degree, at least in the sciences, and even the mushy fields like theology and philosophy, despite the best efforts of academe to disgrace themselves since the Sixties. This is no doubt why you mentioned your own honors.
So I'm not presuming too much, then, if I say you share this respect for the sciences? That you're willing to consider what your peers have to say, to give the efforts of qualified psychologists, phycisists, biologists and even other philosophers some reasonable consideration?
Sure enough.
TeX is a way to produce funny mathematical characters in a format that can be read anywhere, by anyone, using freeware, even on a PC.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 10:58 PM
Heh heh heh
Really? You probably read about TeX off some web site somewhere. Where did you get that demon worshipper, off some joo website, I doubt you even know what TeX is. You never answered exactly what field your supposed PhD? I think your total bullshit, and I think youre afraid of me somehow, aren’t you? You really wouldn’t like it if you knew I was close to you somewhere would you? You know I have none of you’re joodayo-Christian morals at all, I don’t believe in mercy or any of those weak joo foibles like you robots do, I think your afraid for us to see how stupid and uneducated you really are which is why you don’t post anything which would indicate your level of educational achievement. I think that you don’t have a very wide ranging or sufficient vocabulary, which is why you don’t post more than a few lines at a time. PhD your sister’s ass. Lay down fool or get slapped down.
Steve B
December 17th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Or, it would be you admitting that you have shit.
You're done too. Anyone else?
Actually I have my own selfish reasons for not posting your name and address on the internet. If I did and something did befall you I could be held liable or even indicted as a co-conspirator.
So I'm going to keep mum about the whole thing from here on in and let the professionals handle it.
As they say in show businitz....break a leg!
jack_boot
December 17th, 2003, 11:09 PM
TeX, eh? Hmm. Sure hope I'm not wasting my time with Pagemaker 7, but then, I'm not preparing a dissertation either.
Kevin MacDonald, PhD
William Pierce, PhD
William Shockley, PhD
J Phillip Rushton, PhD
Richard Lynn, PhD
Glayde Whitney, PhD
Robert DeMarais, PhD
Charles Murray, PhD
Josef Goebbels, PhD
Michael Hart, PhD, JD
Revilo Oliver, PhD
Sam Francis, PhD
Richard Herrnstein, PhD
Arthur Jensen, PhD
Thomas Bouchard, PhD
honorable mention to
Jared Taylor
Sam Dickson
David Duke
David Irving
Just a few names off the top of my head, these are some of the scholars, scientists, and philosophers whose work and insight founds our ideology. You'll even find a jew or two in the credits. But you will not find frauds or charlatans like Freud, Marcuse, S.J.Gould, or Boas, buffoons like Cornel West, mediocrities like bell hook or Carol Swain, or slithering reptiles like Noel Ignatiev (PhD).
jack_boot
December 17th, 2003, 11:15 PM
Almost forgot the dishonorable mention of Michael King, whoremonger, plagiarist and fraud, known to you as the Rev Dr Martin Luther King, Jr.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:28 PM
Hey answer
Now you’re boring us! Lying about an advanced math degree is a pretty transparent way of trying to assert superiority and it seems you are an insecure little whelp who is in need of some attention. BTW, my dad had a PhD Mechanical Engineering MIT, he was a well known designer of military high performance aircraft. I have been around people of that educational level my entire life, and you seem to be some little boy (or girl) acting out his (her) fantasy on the web behind a keyboard. Go back to being an obnoxious child, it was more real.
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:38 PM
Dear jack_boot
Oy, not Pierce and Goebbels, Oy not them! He he he. One of these fuckin days we will make a saint of our hero Adolf Hitler, the only White man in the 20th century who had the combination of the will, foresight and intelligence to name our enemy, the jew and try to do something real about it, rather than just post on some fuckin website. Heil Hitler!
T.Garrett
PS That fuckin kike Ignatiev comes here to NYC quite a bit, one of these days maybe Ill get to meet his Harvard jew ass in person and say hello! I know where all the slimy kikes slime around in this city.
Gott
December 17th, 2003, 11:42 PM
Dear jack_boot
Oy, not Pierce and Goebbels, Oy not them! He he he. One of these fuckin days we will make a saint of our hero Adolf Hitler, the only White man in the 20th century who had the combination of the will, foresight and intelligence to name our enemy, the jew and try to do something real about it, rather than just post on some fuckin website. Heil Hitler!
T.Garrett
The Fuhrer was the greatest man since the Renaissance.
Heil Hitler!
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Actually I have my own selfish reasons for not posting your name and address on the internet. If I did and something did befall you I could be held liable or even indicted as a co-conspirator.
So I'm going to keep mum about the whole thing from here on in and let the professionals handle it.
As they say in show businitz....break a leg!
You are so full of shit it's not funny. Oh wait, yes it is.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 11:48 PM
TeX, eh? Hmm. Sure hope I'm not wasting my time with Pagemaker 7, but then, I'm not preparing a dissertation either.
Kevin MacDonald, PhD
William Pierce, PhD
William Shockley, PhD
J Phillip Rushton, PhD
Richard Lynn, PhD
Glayde Whitney, PhD
Robert DeMarais, PhD
Charles Murray, PhD
Josef Goebbels, PhD
Michael Hart, PhD, JD
Revilo Oliver, PhD
Sam Francis, PhD
Richard Herrnstein, PhD
Arthur Jensen, PhD
Thomas Bouchard, PhD
honorable mention to
Jared Taylor
Sam Dickson
David Duke
David Irving
Just a few names off the top of my head, these are some of the scholars, scientists, and philosophers whose work and insight founds our ideology. You'll even find a jew or two in the credits. But you will not find frauds or charlatans like Freud, Marcuse, S.J.Gould, or Boas, buffoons like Cornel West, mediocrities like bell hook or Carol Swain, or slithering reptiles like Noel Ignatiev (PhD).
I've read some of them. Not all. We'll see what I can do about that. Thanks, man.
The Answer
December 17th, 2003, 11:51 PM
Hey answer
Now you’re boring us! Lying about an advanced math degree is a pretty transparent way of trying to assert superiority and it seems you are an insecure little whelp who is in need of some attention. BTW, my dad had a PhD Mechanical Engineering MIT, he was a well known designer of military high performance aircraft. I have been around people of that educational level my entire life, and you seem to be some little boy (or girl) acting out his (her) fantasy on the web behind a keyboard. Go back to being an obnoxious child, it was more real.
T.Garrett
I really do get on your nerves, huh? Sir, I have yet to tell a lie here. I don't have a math degree. Most anyone here can tell you that many disciplines use mathematics. It's funny that someone whose father was a PhD in Mech. Eng. wouldn't know that.
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:55 PM
Greets Gott
Someday, we will destroy all the semitic places of demon worship, joo Christian,muslim whatever and build palaces to our racial gods again, establish our Patrimony by force on this planet, after visiting ragnarokkr on the semites and their whole stinking sand piss pile Middle East. In these temples will be images of Great White men, and I am sure AH will be prominently displayed in each White temple, and every White child will learn of the hero and his great deeds without the moderation of the joo. He did not fail us Gott, we failed him. Next time providence gives us Whites a gift of a man like Hitler, we should follow his lead and not fail him, as Germany failed it’s hero. Seig Heil!
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 17th, 2003, 11:57 PM
Hey answer
can you spell Mechanical Engineering? I mean without a spell checker. inquiring minds want to know ....
Gott
December 18th, 2003, 12:20 AM
Greets Gott
Someday, we will destroy all the semitic places of demon worship, joo Christian,muslim whatever and build palaces to our racial gods again, establish our Patrimony by force on this planet, after visiting ragnarokkr on the semites and their whole stinking sand piss pile Middle East. In these temples will be images of Great White men, and I am sure AH will be prominently displayed in each White temple, and every White child will learn of the hero and his great deeds without the moderation of the joo. He did not fail us Gott, we failed him. Next time providence gives us Whites a gift of a man like Hitler, we should follow his lead and not fail him, as Germany failed it’s hero. Seig Heil!
T.Garrett
Hi there, kamerad
Germany stood behind Hitler and the Germans fought with a bravery and a genius surpassing that of any other people ever. But armies of prissy lying, little jews - just like the one masquerading as a non-jew on this thread - had done their work and manipulated the USA and G.B. into joining the kike Bolsheviks against Germany. No one country could win against those odds, not even Germany. Poor martyred Germany...I just can't find it in my heart to ever say a thing against her. That's Germany then, of course...not now.
If our race survives it will win. We have always won in the same way as this little kike's race has always been loathed and finally ejected by all peoples unlucky enough to come in contact with it. When we do win (by that force you mention), after the traitors and the parasites have been dealt with, and that religion from the asshole of the universe -jewchristianmoslem - has been flushed, then The Fuhrer will be revered as the genius he was. I'd say Saint, because he was everything a Saint is supposed to be - but fuck the christians.
Heil Hitler!
Steve B
December 18th, 2003, 12:25 AM
Greets Gott
Someday, we will destroy all the semitic places of demon worship, joo Christian,muslim whatever and build palaces to our racial gods again, establish our Patrimony by force on this planet, after visiting ragnarokkr on the semites and their whole stinking sand piss pile Middle East. In these temples will be images of Great White men, and I am sure AH will be prominently displayed in each White temple, and every White child will learn of the hero and his great deeds without the moderation of the joo. He did not fail us Gott, we failed him. Next time providence gives us Whites a gift of a man like Hitler, we should follow his lead and not fail him, as Germany failed it’s hero. Seig Heil!
T.Garrett
Well said, T.G. For a little insight on what life was like in Germany before Uncle Wolf and what life was like in Germany during Uncle Wolf read "a speech by Friedrich Kurreck".
http://faem.com/eric/kurreck.htm
Many WN's probably have read this but for those who haven't check it out.
T.Garrett
December 18th, 2003, 01:42 AM
Dear Colonel Kurtz
Yes strong words, but the hatred could not be showered on a more worthy race of scumbuckets than the kikes. Believe it, hatred of these feculent rodents is alive and very strong here in NYC, their world capital. To know ‘em is to HATE ‘em. When I stopped playing their smart jew/dumb goy game a long while ago, I was showered with epithets such as ‘nazi’, ‘hater’, ‘white trash’, yeah lay it on me kikenjammer now I love being called a nazi, it is a badge of honor, hater yes I do hate you joo and am totally justified, and yes I love being called White and I would love to trash you judenweasel. You should hear them squeal and see them squirm when I talk trash about their pwecious Izrahell, in person even though I am outnumbered by them in every way and they have their rotten PC judengovernment to pwosecute me, they shake like little girls when I speak the name of the hero Adolf Hitler with admiration, secretly I think every kike is a wannabe nazi, they just don’t have what it takes, eh? Ahh, sometimes I really do push it close to the point where I could possibly be arrested in this jewy town, but each time I diss a kike I see a smile on some White man or womans face, and now on Arab hajjis faces too, and it pleases me immensely to answer back their arrogance and mockery right in their faces. Right now, there are only a few of us here. But only 3 years ago, I thought I was alone in this fight here. But I do ache for that tee vee channel to really stick it in their faces Colonel, ah big dreams, small pockets.
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 18th, 2003, 02:06 AM
Dear Vlad
I do apologize sir if I made an ass of myself by the use of street or bad language, if that is what you are implying, as I do not know you. Answer was just amusement for me while I sit heer with the damn flu, posting on a few different boards at once. He is a standard anti, but more stubborn and with people like him you just have to show more stamina as he really never posted one word which was relevant. I just vented a little on him because I have no respect for people like him. Also, another good tact is to appeal to his ego, as jack_boot did successfully, kudos to him. Well, good night to you in your castle in the forest, keep watch for those wily Turks that seem to find one way or the other to invade our lovely Europe, except here in 2003 it’s called ‘immigration’ and not invasion …
T.Garrett
jack_boot
December 18th, 2003, 06:45 AM
Degree or no degree, our concern is for the Volk. One might say our concern is for the plumber and not the philosopher.
The humanities departments of every major university in the West have long been dominated by conceited elitists, who are very good at deconstructing Western Civ., by means of speculation, critical theory, assertion, lies, and sneering mockery. After all, this is what the plumbers of the world pay them to do. Not that the plumber has a choice. He pays his taxes or he goes to prison.
We have a reasoned basis for our beliefs. We can point to solid research supporting our contention that races are biologically different and predisposed to this or that behavior. Admittedly, there are only a few such studies, as racial research has been suppressed in the West for two generations now; but that is beginning to change, and what we have so far is powerful stuff.
The effete snobs of academia, with their Doctorates of Philosophy in Cultural Anthropology, Black Studies, Wymyn's Studies, the perverse body of BS that Sociology has been twisted into, and any number of other "fields", have none of that research; in fact they lift the collective leg on research, claiming science proves nothing and is merely the tool of the oppressor.
There is no coming to terms with such people; and The Answer will soon be back to prove it.
Steve B
December 18th, 2003, 09:58 PM
Ha! And you claim Magnus is a bullshitter! You put Magnus to shame, boy!
LOL, I can do the same for you, punk! Care to hook up in person and put your money where your mouth is?
Internet flame wars are for pussys. Comon "Dozer/Dozeragain lets cut the BS and settle it in person.
Steve B
December 18th, 2003, 10:10 PM
No, Steve, leave our tools alone. We, the chosen, need self hating whites who pose as experts or nig - I mean oppressed black warriors chomping at the bit for battle, to be our spokesmen. Our footsoldiers. Our useful idiots. Give up. Dozer and HHE and others like him are what we want to mold all whites into, until we can march you all into the Gulags, and begin the genocide in earnest. Besides, Dozer is my private bidet.
Heh heh, priceless!
The Answer
December 19th, 2003, 11:30 AM
Greets Gott
Someday, we will destroy all the semitic places of demon worship, joo Christian,muslim whatever and build palaces to our racial gods again, establish our Patrimony by force on this planet, after visiting ragnarokkr on the semites and their whole stinking sand piss pile Middle East. In these temples will be images of Great White men, and I am sure AH will be prominently displayed in each White temple, and every White child will learn of the hero and his great deeds without the moderation of the joo. He did not fail us Gott, we failed him. Next time providence gives us Whites a gift of a man like Hitler, we should follow his lead and not fail him, as Germany failed it’s hero. Seig Heil!
T.Garrett
Keep talking. Meanwhile, what's going on in your movement? Nothing but infighting. Some thirty year old Nazi loser living in his parents' attic "calling out" some ancient alcoholic redneck in a trailer next to the freeway, while some fifteen year old whose father paid a little too much attention to him polishes the chef's knife he keeps next to the computer and calls everyone a kike. I read your threads here. I see what's going on.
The Answer
December 22nd, 2003, 05:41 PM
So, Steve B, seems like you're still full of shit.
Colonel-Voltz
December 22nd, 2003, 06:56 PM
Steve B is an idiot. I don’t mean that in an insulting way. I mean he is an actual, low IQ moron. An actual retarded person (learning disabled) to be PC about it.
Ahem, just for the record, it is possible to have a high IQ and be learning disabled. I certianly hope is not learning disabled, because regretfully, I also possess this disability. The last thing in the world I want is to be compared to someone like Steve.
The Answer
December 22nd, 2003, 07:31 PM
Answer, do you really need a victory so badly that you pick our resident moron, Steve B, to score off of? Where's the challenge?
Come on, you can do better than that!
Steve B is an idiot. I don’t mean that in an insulting way. I mean he is an actual, low IQ moron. An actual retarded person (learning disabled) to be PC about it.
But couldn’t you tell? The childish flights of fancy he takes. The impossible stories he tells. The way he follows everyone else’s lead. Half his posts are just agreements with someone else! And when argument fails, he resorts to violence and threats.
Most of the White Nationalists here treat just him like the retarded boy that sacks groceries at the supermarket. Humoring him to make him feel “normal”. And just like that retarded boy, he thinks everyone is his “friend”.
So don’t destroy the illusion for him, ok?
You're right. No need to bring up the fact that Steve B talks a big talk, with little substance.
T.Garrett
December 22nd, 2003, 09:30 PM
Dear 'you dont know who i am and I dont either' haw haw
I see you do not appreciate our lovely VNN or Stormfront. Then why are you here? Maybe you troll, because it’s obvious from your posts you are not here for any legitimate discussion. British joo, you claim eh? There’s a foulmoth cockjockey jewess here that calls herself the ‘English muffin’ on one of the local ‘rock’ format radio stations here in NYC. I met her at a party in Lido last year, and when she introduced herself to me as the ‘muffin’, I replied ‘you’re English … HA!’ Well the look she shot back at me spoke volumes jewboy. It really doesn’t take much to get under your people’s skin, does it? Do you ugly Ashkenazim have to co-opt ever damn thing from our people because you have no greatness yourselves, our names our languages, whatever youre not fucking English, neither is ‘sir’ shpielberg of hollywitz here, or the ‘English’ muffin, get the fucke out of our countries you fucking rodents, or you will be expelled. Oh and BTW, I DO speak my beliefs here right in public, doesn’t that burn you theres no Talmudic laws here, and I speak it with very little reproach from anyone even here in jewy NYC, a lot of people are beginning to feel as I do even if, today, they say nothing tomorrow itz coming and you know it. And youre vaunted big joo mouths don’t open very wide in the presence of a big Anglo Saxon fist poised to take out youre jooey teeth. Fuck you sissy ass yeshiva jooboy, fucke your whiny ‘survivors’ of your lie the holocaust, and may you shortly visit the place where all you spawn of satan go when you die, firey hell, to the asshole of the desert demon you all worship as god!.
T.Garrett
T.Garrett
December 22nd, 2003, 10:12 PM
Keep talking. Meanwhile, what's going on in your movement? Nothing but infighting. Some thirty year old Nazi loser living in his parents' attic "calling out" some ancient alcoholic redneck in a trailer next to the freeway, while some fifteen year old whose father paid a little too much attention to him polishes the chef's knife he keeps next to the computer and calls everyone a kike. I read your threads here. I see what's going on.
Where the hell did you ever think up your stupid moniker 'answer'? You have to be the most transparent fool on this board. What the hell do you know about WN? What you read posted on this board, you better polish that steak knife a little more before you post another asinine word boy
T.Garrett
The Answer
December 22nd, 2003, 11:15 PM
Where the hell did you ever think up your stupid moniker 'answer'? You have to be the most transparent fool on this board. What the hell do you know about WN? What you read posted on this board, you better polish that steak knife a little more before you post another asinine word boy
T.Garrett
I know what I've seen browsing these boards for a year or so. Enough to know bullshit when I see it. Guess what I see?
T.Garrett
December 22nd, 2003, 11:22 PM
I know what I've seen browsing these boards for a year or so. Enough to know bullshit when I see it. Guess what I see?
If you believe that this crazy, fucked up board is anything other than bullshit, I would have you committed for an education in mental hygene. Ha ha ha
T.Garrett
NSita
December 23rd, 2003, 12:05 AM
If you go to the Holocaust Museum, for example
Hahaha!
"I spend my Sundays at the Holocaust Museum [ after I take myself out on a date to Kushner's 'Angels in America,' of course, oy those flying faggots make me blush! What chutzpah on those girly men! ] because I like their stylishly yiddish postmodern deconstruction of veracity... it really blurs the boundaries between semiotics and matzo balls. And the discourse I engage in there really opens up a space in my rectal sphere for them to assfuck me cheaply and handily. *blink* Oh, and like, one time a professor told me that Derrida was the foremost kike of the land, and I will believe this unto my dying day. *blink* Please don't forget I have a PhD, though, ever. This ingenious combination of letters singlehandedly turns flaccidity of constitution into high virtue."
The Answer
December 23rd, 2003, 09:14 AM
Hahaha!
"I spend my Sundays at the Holocaust Museum [ after I take myself out on a date to Kushner's 'Angels in America,' of course, oy those flying faggots make me blush! What chutzpah on those girly men! ] because I like their stylishly yiddish postmodern deconstruction of veracity... it really blurs the boundaries between semiotics and matzo balls. And the discourse I engage in there really opens up a space in my rectal sphere for them to assfuck me cheaply and handily. *blink* Oh, and like, one time a professor told me that Derrida was the foremost kike of the land, and I will believe this unto my dying day. *blink* Please don't forget I have a PhD, though, ever. This ingenious combination of letters singlehandedly turns flaccidity of constitution into high virtue."
My PhD has no bearing on whether or not I'm smarter than you. *grins*
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 09:44 AM
My PhD has no bearing on whether or not I'm smarter than you. *grins*
For a guy who has frequently remarked that he only lowers himself to this place for a five minutes here, and a five minutes there, you certainly seem to LIVE HERE.
I'm here because I like it and I like the community. But you? What a large time commitment to something you say is just horrid. And what kind of moron is going to jerk off his time on a place he considers inane and delusional? Only a jerk off, perhaps? You think you are 'converting' anyone? Well, delusional certainly is the jew..oh sorry, the jewchristian, oh sorry, the christianjew defining characteristic, so maybe you do think that.
I'm only reading this thread to see how amusingly T. Garrett and Colonel.Kurtz wipe the floor with you this time. Oh, and also because when ever I log on here - I see your handle all over the place. You are logged on, you are reading posts, you are replying to posts and your handle is up there in so many threads. Amazing way to demonstrate a five minutes here, etc. Amazing way to show your disdain for this place.
Oh and by the way - I don't think too many persons involved in any 'movement' are going to discuss said movement with anyone in a public chat room, let alone with a self important, diarrhea mouthed hypocrite like you. That wasn't a very sophisticated argument but it was typically and nicely risible. Thanks again for the constant laughs.
The Answer
December 23rd, 2003, 09:52 AM
For a guy who has frequently remarked that he only lowers himself to this place for a five minutes here, and a five minutes there, you certainly seem to LIVE HERE.
I'm here because I like it and I like the community. But you? What a large time commitment to something you say is just horrid. And what kind of moron is going to jerk off his time on a place he considers inane and delusional? Only a jerk off, perhaps? You think you are 'converting' anyone? Well, delusional certainly is the jew..oh sorry, the jewchristian, oh sorry, the christianjew defining characteristic, so maybe you do think that.
I'm only reading this thread to see how amusingly T. Garrett and Colonel.Kurtz wipe the floor with you this time. Oh, and also because when ever I log on here - I see your handle all over the place. You are logged on, you are reading posts, you are replying to posts and your handle is up there in so many threads. Amazing way to demonstrate a five minutes here, etc. Amazing way to show your disdain for this place.
Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Five minutes here, five minutes there, and all you idiots can do is call me names. "Wipe the floor" with me, hardly. Swear at me and portend my demise, sure.
Oh and by the way - I don't think too many persons involved in any 'movement' are going to discuss said movement with anyone in a public chat room, let alone with a self important, diarrhea mouthed hypocrite like you. That wasn't a very sophisticated argument but it was typically and nicely risible. Thanks again for the constant laughs.
Let's see. This sounds a lot like Nixon. "I have a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam. I just can't tell it to you." I leave you to your own conclusions.
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 11:27 AM
Yeah, that kike is a real disappointment. I always thought that jews, especially Brits, were supposed to be funny, or at least clever, but this kike is neither. Very little entertainment there, so, into the oven you go......
Ho ho...a British kike eh? Oh, sorry, I mean a kike temporarily living off the British. Is this the same British jew who was recently masquerading as Davidh96? Schizophrenia central - they just never run out of imaginary personas.
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 11:49 AM
Are you talking about anti's or the pro-white people? Because its the White nationalists here that seem to find a jew under every bed.
Why don't you readopt your nigger persona? Or invent a new one? Maybe you could do dress-up as a noble holohoax survivor just here to introduce the haters to the sorrows of the world? I'm sure you'd have loads of fun ditching boring reality and boring you in favor of yet more banal play acting. I can understand your pain for sure. Anybody who buys into the merde that is your retard value system would perforce have to be terminally bored all the time. Building a life on a series of moronic clichés and PC slogans must be really tough. But you made the call, so, why don't you fuck yourself?
My straight forward and very short post was quite self explanatory, Sherlock. I was, and am talking about nebulous personalities who adopt multiple identities - you know, like YOU in pretending to be a nigger? Or the parade of kikes in here, all of whom trot out their tired repertory of duplicitous intellectual scams? You know...what Schizophrenia, MEANS??? Get it yet?
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 04:33 PM
Like “Itz coming” or “No intelligent opposition to White Nationalism” or “Day of the rope”? Those sort of moronic clichés? You tell me how tough it is.
I pretended to be black to make a point. The fact that so many WN’s fell for it, made that point. Don’t be upset that you fell for it too. Plenty of people did.
You are right. When I referred to WN’s, I should have used the term paranoiac, not schizophrenic.
I didn't fall for your nigger act buster. Niggers don't talk like that and besides, if you have not noticed there is a revolving door here at VNN Forum in one side of which come the kikes and wiggers (like you) with their tired vaudeville skits. One week later the less grotesque ones usually leave as everybody here has seen it all many times before. As nobody gives a piss, the jews and their trained poodles (IE - you) go on to easier targets in venues where they can control the discussions. The really sickos though (IE - like you and The Answer), hang around and hang around desperately trying to get something going with anybody you can. Weird, bizarre, furtive little critters who will do anything to get a rise out of the guys....Hummmmm...and OY VEY... what would Freud say?
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 05:00 PM
What would beloved Hitler say?
He's say a good long bout in re-education for you, tinker-bell, and no more costume parties.
Gott
December 23rd, 2003, 05:22 PM
So I couldn't gather half a dozen or so of my fellow White Nationalists, put on swastika patches, and “protest” for an hour outside of the ADL headquarters? Billy is gonna be so pissed!
too much jew tube again. I have short hair, no tattoos, no piercings and no costumes. We could meet at a party and you'd never know...that is, not until I very happily sign the papers sending you away for a long, long time. Which I am much looking forward to doing.
And by the way, you are really boring.
The Barrenness
August 30th, 2005, 10:54 PM
You might get more of a response if you teach your mouth to talk and give your ass a rest
:cheers: :D
Cthulhu
September 8th, 2005, 07:28 PM
And you expect us to believe you are white after that? Heres some advice Jewboy, go take your hook nose and stick it where it belongs. Up some niggers arsehole. You kikes make us puke, that is why we are here, and the day of the sword will happen. And you will be up against the wall crying for your butt ugly mother.
You liar. You banned me for getting on some guys goat for defending people seeking to get a jew placed in power over whites. You jew loving sick bag. Fuck you hypocrite.
Sieg
September 8th, 2005, 10:34 PM
Just trying to brighten your day. I think it's funny when a bunch of people who simultaneously think that the Holocaust should have happened but that it didn't actually happen call me a dumbass.
Tell me, exactly what's "funny" about feeling that an event should have happened by rights, even though it didn't? I'm sure your parents still discuss their disappointment that they never had any intelligent children. Shoulda happened. Didn't. It's called Regret.
We are quite right to call you a dumbass.
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