The truth, as I see it, is that every issue has its supporters and detractors. I suppose the gift and curse of the internet is that for each claim one religious group or one racial group makes there are a thousand to either claim it or refute it.

My question to you is:
Can you, at VNN, see BOTH sides of the Israel-Pal conflict? Or is it a black and white issue for you (pardon the pun :) )

It is an honest questions, with no bashing on my part.

The problem is that the jewasites in America have made the Arab/Israel problem OUR problem. Truth be told, we really don't give a shit about either of you.

And truth be told, the jewasites in America would never want to live in Pissrael. What the hell would they do in Pissrael? Jew each other? The jewasites need someone else to jew in order to survive. That's the fact, jew.

I'm a former America Jew who has lived in Israel 15 years. There are over 100,000 former American Jews who live here,and with your (WN) help, ther ewill be even more. You do actually serve a purpose.

I only conditionally support zionism. On the condition that a) they end US subsidies and loan guarantees and payola to other countries f/b/o Israel like Egypt and b) Jews leave the US and go to Israel and c) The Jews once in Israel change their spots and start acting like a normal ethnic group instead of landless parasites and d) Israelis pay for all the land they stole from Palestinians and recognize a Palestinian State.

All that being done I say, fine, Israel gets a pass and a right to exist as a sovereign state and the Arabs should leave them alone. That's the "roadmap" and in all frankness it is one that Herzl would have supported is it not?

I wont hold my breath.

Who knows what sort of reasonable social accomodations might be worked out with non-Whites if the Jews were not around stirring shit up. Look at the history of black self-help a la Carver and Garvey before the kikes took over and put jew marxism and their lackey WEB DuBois in charge. No peaceable settlement of issues with non-Whites will be possible until the Jew problem is licked one way or another.

The history of Zionism entails a frank recognition of both sides of the Jewish problem and not just the Jew perspective. That is its genius. It recognizes that as landless social parasites the Jew will always be hated. The solution ultimately is for the Jews to have a patch of dirt and transform themselves into an organic folk that mucks its own stables and so forth.

Interestingly, religious Jews initially were very opposed to Herzl and zionism as a kind of man-over-God pre-empting of divine will. They believe that the messiah would come to ordain a new Israel and secular attempts to start a Jewish state in Palestine were utopian hubris. Of course those jews have dwindled to a small number as the haredim generally support the Jewish state and such scruples now is a fringe such as naturei karta and the like. This was to be expected because Judism as a religion is bankrupt and it has been ever since Christ, like the Greek king before him, tried to elevate the Jews and they steadfastly refused. In like fashion Herzl tried to elevate the Jews out of their persistent patterns but his effort is pretty much a failure today. The self-help of the kibbutznik a la Jacobtinsky is vanished and in its place you have the Israeli gastarbeiter or guest worker from all over, especially Africa and Slavic countries and even China. It's really pathetic to see how averse Jews remain to honest hard work like farming.

I have a question for you jew. There is great amount of empty land in Northern Siberia and the hinterlands of Northeast Russia. Why don't every single one of you jews move up there and build your own nation and leave the west and Middle East alone? You'd kill two birds with one stone-you'd have your own land apart from foreign influence and you'd end all the conflict with people that don't won't you around. How about it? Buy a nice parcel in Siberia and make your own peaceful little country in the middle of nowhere. Heck, I'd even be willing to write a holy book claiming the land was yours to take. Whatcha say? 14 million jews take off for the Russian hinterlands. You'd be doing all us Gentiles a real favor. It'd be hard at first but eventually, no doubt, you clever good chosen ones could have your own modern civilization up there.

The truth, as I see it, is that every issue has its supporters and detractors. I suppose the gift and curse of the internet is that for each claim one religious group or one racial group makes there are a thousand to either claim it or refute it.

My question to you is:
Can you, at VNN, see BOTH sides of the Israel-Pal conflict? Or is it a black and white issue for you (pardon the pun :) )

It is an honest questions, with no bashing on my part.


LOL!

Is this a sign of your surrender jew, or do you think you are being clever by appealing to the peace loving rationalist in all of us so we drop our guard and then when we turn away for a moment stick the dagger in our backs? Like the continual incursion/withdrawals into the West Bank by Izrael, the only constant there is the inch by inch grabbing of Palestinian land by jews. Itz not going to happen like that heer. We are not the goy you fool with your slick advertising and morality plays on the televitz, we know joo and how you operate. The only proven way to deal with jews is the way it was done in NS Germany in the 20th century and in the innumerable societies who finally were fed up with your presence in the past …expulsion. Are you leaving our lovely little forum now jude?
Have a blessed day, and you sure as hell know the rest of my curse by now!

TG

I have a question for you jew. There is great amount of empty land in Northern Siberia and the hinterlands of Northeast Russia. Why don't every single one of you jews move up there and build your own nation and leave the west and Middle East alone? You'd kill two birds with one stone-you'd have your own land apart from foreign influence and you'd end all the conflict with people that don't won't you around. How about it? Buy a nice parcel in Siberia and make your own peaceful little country in the middle of nowhere. Heck, I'd even be willing to write a holy book claiming the land was yours to take. Whatcha say? 14 million jews take off for the Russian hinterlands. You'd be doing all us Gentiles a real favor. It'd be hard at first but eventually, no doubt, you clever good chosen ones could have your own modern civilization up there.

Is this a joke? The soviets did designate a large swath of Siberia bordering China as a semi autonomous Jew homeland. I cant recall the name.. anybody?

Is this a joke? The soviets did designate a large swath of Siberia bordering China as a semi autonomous Jew homeland. I cant recall the name.. anybody?
The Pale of the Settlement. Don't really know what it means, though.

The Pale of the Settlement. Don't really know what it means, though.

No that was the Czar and that was in Poland. I mean out east in Siberia, and it was the Soviets. Starts with a K I think.

"BIROBIDZHAN" I looked it up. in this link it is called the "Jewish Autonomous Oblast"

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Jewish%20Autonomous%20Oblast

I only conditionally support zionism. On the condition that a) they end US subsidies and loan guarantees and payola to other countries f/b/o Israel like Egypt and b) Jews leave the US and go to Israel and c) The Jews once in Israel change their spots and start acting like a normal ethnic group instead of landless parasites and d) Israelis pay for all the land they stole from Palestinians and recognize a Palestinian State.

All that being done I say, fine, Israel gets a pass and a right to exist as a sovereign state and the Arabs should leave them alone. That's the "roadmap" and in all frankness it is one that Herzl would have supported is it not?

I wont hold my breath.

Yeah, and I've got a bridge I want to sell ya. Bugger off, goy! You don't tell us what to do on this planet. You are just a little man with a huuuugggge ego about what you think WHITES are all about. Tell ya what. You have your ancestors (whoever the hell they are) give back all the land they took from all the people they took it from, go back to YOUR ancestral homeland (i.e., if you are Irish, go back to friggin Ireland; if you are of British or French ancestry, go back to France). Leave the U.S. to the natives, the American Indians who owned this land and whose land was stolen from them.

While you are at it, tell the palistinians that the aid they get should go to the people instead of lining the pockets of arafat whose wife lives in france and wears designer clothes.

tell the Saudi's, a supposed ally, who support terrorism, to shove it, we dont need your oil.

tell all the other mid-eastern countries WE GIVE AID TO, to make peace in the region, or else we won't pay them anymore.

WHEN that happens, you can tell Israel where to go. Until the, babes, you are very very much stuck with us. Deal with it, ;)

I have a question for you jew. There is great amount of empty land in Northern Siberia and the hinterlands of Northeast Russia. Why don't every single one of you jews move up there and build your own nation and leave the west and Middle East alone? You'd kill two birds with one stone-you'd have your own land apart from foreign influence and you'd end all the conflict with people that don't won't you around. How about it? Buy a nice parcel in Siberia and make your own peaceful little country in the middle of nowhere. Heck, I'd even be willing to write a holy book claiming the land was yours to take. Whatcha say? 14 million jews take off for the Russian hinterlands. You'd be doing all us Gentiles a real favor. It'd be hard at first but eventually, no doubt, you clever good chosen ones could have your own modern civilization up there.

ahhh, the poor little goy is intimidated by the big bad Jew. Oy vey, what to do, what to do. You are a foreigner (if you live in the U.S., that is). As such, go back to your little neck of the woods and stay the hell out of the US of A where all men are created equal.

now for your brilliant idea. you see, we Jews are afraid to leave you goyim alone. Cause without us you would be lost. Without us to hate, why you wouldn't know what to do with yourselves. Yes, you need us. You need my people so that you won't have to gaze at your empty pathetic little lives but instead mouth off anonimously on some website. Without us to keep you folks in check (using OUR commandments that we gave to the world) there would be chaos because you goyim don't know how to live together. Without Jewish doctors who will stitch up your wounds. Without Jewish lawyers, who would defend you pricks when you screw up. Na, you would be lost without us.

Tell YOU what, YOU people who are unhappy living in the U.S. because it is no longer a white, anglo-saxon country but filled to the brim with all colors and religions, YOU take off for the Russian hinterlands and inbreed and the like, whatcha say. Is it a plan?

regurge

A few points:
1. Whites taught jews to read and write, long ago in Mesopotamia. You dirty desert animals never had a written language until you learned one from a White man. Neanderthal!

2. Jews imitated ancient White religious practices, Abraham …the first jew came out of what civilization? The White civilization he ‘came out of’ was already ancient when this mythical event took place, was it not? Your ‘commandments’ are adaptations of Aryan law which was written in fine stone long before ignorant judiasm ever stained this planet. Idolaters!

3. Whites taught jews law and science, you people lived as nomads in tents and herded goats while our ancestors lived in urban splendor. The only ‘law’ you hebes knew was the savage law of the desert! Your ‘lawyers’ in America today are fucking blood sucking parasites who use the law as a tool to imprison and impoverish people! Criminals!

4. Whites taught jews medicine in ancient Mesopotamia and Egypt, you people used to pray to your desert gods for voo-doo cures while my ancestors were doing surgeries and preparing medications! Your ‘doctors’ in America today are fucken parasites just like your jew ‘lawyers’ that don’t give a damn about helping the sick and injured, all they care about is the mountains of money they can earn off their ‘profession’ every year, and constantly cry that that isn’t even enough! Murderers!

Copy cats! The jewish language is even an adaptation of an older White tongue that has been obscured by time. Your people are nothing returd, we don’t need you! The reason you always come to us to live amongst us is because YOU NEED US YOU FUCKING PARASITES!

You lay claim heer to things no jew was ever bright enough to be the originator of. You people are like those dirty birds who steal other birds nests and then call them their own. And then you foul them with your stench. Second rate actors!

Without us, you would revert to the miserable,stone age, squabbling tribe you really are and probably start eating each other. Your people have one great quality and that is the ‘gift’ (not the way you fucks use it) of IMITATION. Savage!

And now you dare to tell a White man to ‘get the fuck out of YOUR America’? Who the fuck do you think you are jude? Your kind had ZIP to do with founding and building this nation, and no matter how many jews you invent to put in your ‘reinvented’ history texts and attribute all kinds of glorious things to these jews, that doesn’t make it the truth!

Do you really think that by stealing our government, our history, yea even our SURNAMES which I see so many jews using these days that that makes you US? Envious impostors!

You should kiss the feet of the next White person you see and thank him or her for giving you so much and asking nothing in return. White people are the true nobility and benefactors of all mankind, the name Aryan itself means noble. We gave you everything and asked for nothing, even the concept of usury is alien to us in lending something to another. Leave it to jewish bankers though to raise a disgraceful practice such as that to an art form and use it to try and manipulate the world and cause untold suffering and misery by it.

You are a fucken disgusting kike ingrate who will choke on the bile you spew on us soon enough, mark my words you ugly, loudmouthed jewish tenement scold!

TG

regurge

A few points:
1. Whites taught jews to read and write, long ago in Mesopotamia. You dirty desert animals never had a written language until you learned one from a White man. Neanderthal!
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Actually, the first written language was Sanskrit. A few of the other things you claim were invented by whites were actually invented by Arabs or Indo-Aryans (who some people would consider white, but are apparently not well-liked here (?)). I don't dispute the general principle that the Jews have never contributed anything to mankind, and stolen most of the culture they claim as theirs, though. Jews are, for the most part, parasites.

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White people are the true nobility and benefactors of all mankind, the name Aryan itself means noble.


That's what it means in Sanskrit; but nobody here considers Sanskrit speakers to actually be Aryan (?). What's the deal with that?


You are a fucken disgusting kike ingrate who will choke on the bile you spew on us soon enough, mark my words you ugly, loudmouthed jewish tenement scold!

TG

Amen (no pun intended).

Well the jewbies say the land belongs to them. And the arabs say it is their land not jewbie land. Both sides believe totally that there the right one. In the end who has the most guns,guts and will/ability to hold it is the owner and thus the land belongs to them.

Even if I didn't care about Palestine as a Muslim, I would be disgusted by what we as Americans do for Israel, and what we get in return for it.

Basically right now, the US is funding and backing a holocaust that makes the supposed Jewish holoco$t look tame in comparison. It blows my mind - and is a tribute to the Jewing of this nation - that amongst the general populace in this country, the swastika carries a myriad of negative connotations, and the Shtar of David carries positive ones.

Not only that, but American soldiers are dying for Israel, and have been since before Israel existed (WW1).

Even if I didn't care about Palestine as a Muslim, I would be disgusted by what we as Americans do for Israel, and what we get in return for it.

I do not care about Palestine just wogs killing wogs. But do not worry the jews are digging there own graves with it. What is this we stuff?


I'm an American. As an American, a taxpayer, and an American taxpayer (one who probably pays more taxes than you do), my assets are involved here any way you look at it.

Who Cares Sub Human !!!!!! S.S.

See even on the Forums Names of who is on you are Below the S.S.----

Who Cares Sub Human !!!!!! S.S.

Why are you using a Sanskrit word in your screenname if you think subcontinental Asians are "sub-human?"

Because Dravidians/Desis are not aryan. Iran was the 'aryan' homeland, and unfortunately the same cannot be said now, because most of them mongrelized with the arabs. Pakistan was carved out of India, don't think you're special. You're aryan as much as I am a negro.



DRAVIDIC RACE

Europid racial type of India, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka; ancient stabilized Indic-Veddoid (See Australid) blend;



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I do not believe in all the juden lies that have been taught through out history.And the Vikings discovered America.This Country is being ruined by stupid ....s like you.Kuolla pakistanilainen porsas!!!!! CONO !!!!! DAS SCHWINEHUND JUDEN !!!!! DEATH TO YOUR COUNTRY !!!!! S.S.

...putting the ideology before facts can sometimes make you look silly....observe me and 'hell raising woman'....

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=6440&page=3

My racialist ideology is based on facts, not vice versa.

keppi se ylos aasi kuusipakistan ---- S.S.

Hey, better than gooks, right?

Are you kidding? I'd rather live in China, Japan, Korea, Hongkong, etc....than any sandblasted hellhole. I'm sure a few people here would agree with me, too.



Like I said on another thread, Dravidians were/are the aboriginal Indians of south & southwestern India. Their languages, customs, appearance, and culture are completely different from that of mine.

The idea of Aryan and Dravidian races is the product of an unscientific, culturally biased form of thinking that saw race in terms of color. There are scientifically speaking, no such things as Aryan or Dravidian "races"...The three primary races are Caucasian, the Mongolian and the Negroid (grouped capoid, australoid, and congoid)....The difference between the so-called Aryans of the north and Dravidians of the south is not a racial division....only when closer to the equator the skin becomes darker, and under the influence of constant heat the bodily frame tends to become a little smaller. While we can speak of some racial differences between north and south Indian people, they are only secondary.


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yeah Pakman, "it doesnt make any difference to me" which is why you are here posting on a so-called White racist forum and fencing over race with a bunch of Whites and assorted others. This "OPPOSITION FORUM" is getting to be like the goddamned UN! Oh well keep up the pissing matches that will help bring our people in.

yeah Pakman, "it doesnt make any difference to me" which is why you are here posting on a so-called White racist forum


I said "skin color" doesn't make any difference to me; nothing about "race." I clearly distinguished between the two. I can't believe how much I have to repeat myself with you..


and fencing over race with a bunch of Whites and assorted others.


I initially started posting here coz I found a few VNN writers to be amusing and intelligent. While none of that can be found here, talking to you people does make me feel better about myself as a person.


This "OPPOSITION FORUM" is getting to be like the goddamned UN! Oh well keep up the pissing matches that will help bring our people in.

Yeah, what the hell are non-white/non-WNs doing in the "Opposition Forum!?!?"