Book Review: One Sheaf, One Vine: Racially Conscious White Americans Talk about Race

by Rich Brooks

24 June 2004

[Robert S. Griffin, 2004, 162 pp.]

Let the corn be all one sheaf --
and the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
by bitter bread and wine.

From The Stranger by Rudyard Kipling

Robert S. Griffin is the University of Vermont professor who wrote The Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds, a biographical work based on his interviews with William Pierce and first published on the internet in 2000. I don't like to sit for hours staring at the computer screen to read a book, but in this instance I downloaded and read over 400 pages of pdf-formatted type. That's how strongly I was under the spell of Dr. Pierce at the time and eager to learn all I could about him and his philosophy. Griffin spent several weeks at the National Alliance compound in West Virginia and allowed Dr. Pierce to explain himself in his own words. He refrained from injecting his personal opinions into the biography and presented Pierce's nationalist views essentially without editorial comment. For taking even this "neutral" stance on his biographical subject, however, Dr. Griffin was unable to have this book printed by any major publisher. We know, of course, that jews dominate the book publishing business as they do the rest of the media, so this should have come as no surprise.

Griffin has now written a new book, One Sheaf, One Vine, that employs many of the same interviewing techniques he used in Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds. The "Sheaf Book," as the author calls it, is a series of interviews or "conversations" with 16 racially conscious White Americans who are, as was Pierce, allowed to tell their own stories in their own words. A full chapter of 8-12 pages is devoted to each speaker. As Griffin describes these interviewees on the back cover of his book:

The men and women you will meet in this book aren't public figures or leaders of organizations. They are everyday people: a postal worker from Philadelphia, a college student from Texas, an attorney from New York City, a bookstore owner from Washington State, an appliance repairman from Connecticut, a teacher from Chicago, and so on.

We have a negative very negative image of racially conscious and committed whites, gained largely from the media: neo-Nazi bigots, menacing skinheads, thugs who commit hate crimes. We are informed about people of this sort, but we don't hear from them. They aren't on television news shows speaking for themselves. They don't make movies or publish books. Politicians don't articulate their perspective or advocate their positions. Journalists and intellectuals don't write about them unless it is to belittle them. Schools make no attempt to deal with them objectively.

In this book you'll hear from them. The words in this book are the speakers' as they spoke them; they haven't been altered, softened, or censored. And more than come to know their thoughts on race, you'll meet these people as human beings. Some of them you won't soon forget.

No I won't forget some of them, so poignant and touching are their stories. The book is dedicated to Denis Ruiz, a 50-year old computer programmer who first inspired Griffin to write this book. Ruiz speaks of being "displaced" from his boyhood home in semi-rural New Jersey by the influx of non-Whites, and longs to find a place where he can build a home he will be able eventually to leave to his daughter. He would like to literally turn the clock back by moving to a place like his boyhood home. His story is personal, and not rancorous in any way, but he eventually comes to the same conclusions about race as those of us who are more ideological. Griffin has a short introductory paragraph heading each chapter, and notes that Ruiz has just recently learned he has non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a form of cancer. I suspected from these words and the book's dedication to Ruiz that Denis is no longer with us, but we aren't told of his death until the end of the chapter. I literally shed tears as when I read that, something I don't commonly do. I hope I haven't spoiled the emotional impact on potential readers by revealing this chapter ending.

This is a diverse group of racists (I prefer the term to the esoteric "racialist") in age, gender, education, religion and marital status, but they do share the one common bond of love for our people and our history and our civilization. Most of them grew up in homes without "bigotry" or "prejudice" and came to racial awareness only through the hard and sad experience of seeing how non-Whites were destroying their world. If there's another common thread running throughout this book, it's that racism is caused by contact with these alien groups and knowledge of their dysfunctional ways, not ignorance. Even so, there is very little "hate" directed against any group -- even jews -- by any of these racists. It is not an excuse or a clich when these people say they love their race and should be permitted to do so just as all other races are permitted and even encouraged to do so.

VNN's Alex Linder and Rob Freeman (aka "Kievsky") each have chapters devoted to them. Two other names I recognized were folksinger Eric Owens and American Renaissance writer Mike Rienzi, but the most other 12 have apparently never been racial activists of any sort. In fact many of them are not identified by their real names and most are intensely private people. Typical is the family in rural New Hampshire who are homeschooling their four children and successfully rearing them without TV and other jewsmedia influence. These people don't want "White Power," but only to be left alone and to live among their own kind.

There are also varying degrees of jew-consciousness expressed by the Griffin 16. Linder, as you would expect, is very articulate and specific about naming the root source of our racial problems, but there are others who only express displeasure with "Hollywood" or "liberals" or the "mainstream media." Linder is also, as I recall, the only interviewee who uses the word "nigger" in his discourse, so you see we're dealing with a very polite and civil group here. Maybe a little too polite and civil, because I detected much more resignation than anger in many of these folks.

"Carolyn Davies," for example, is a 53-year-old widow who has moved several times to avoid "minorities" and is contemplating moving again soon, this time to Maine. "Safe in Maine" is in fact the chapter heading for her piece, and she ends by saying "I keep thinking, where can I go to be safe when I get older? I am thinking of moving to Maine. I think it is safe there still." How ironic (and how pathetic) those words sounded to me as I thought about how the jews (and their liberal Christian cohorts) have recently been importing all those Bantu savages into Maine.

There is one self-described "Angry White Woman," however, who shows some spirit as well as a sense of humor. I laughed at the story she told about the time she was in a Barnes and Noble bookstore and came across the book 101 Redneck Jokes.. She went up to the manager and asked him if he had any nigger joke books. When he looked shocked and said no, she said to him, "well, you shouldn't have this one either" as she pointed to the redneck book. She also said the Mexicans can have California back, but that Whites should first scorch everything and leave it the way it was when they first arrived, "dirt, clay and leaf huts." Nevertheless, even she soon plans to quietly leave California and settle further north where she hopes the snow and cold will deter the Mexcrement from following her.

Unfortunately, there is not one among these 16 who is unequivocally optimistic about our racial future. The most hopeful is perhaps Washington bookstore owner and longtime activist Joseph Bishop, who closes with these words:

It may just be that our civilization will collapse. We will be swamped with non-whites and that will be the end of us. But then again, a hundred years from now all this insanity we're seeing today might be looked on as something that was ludicrous, crazy, a historical anomaly. Western civilization might clean itself up or even spawn something new and better. That would be wonderful.

Yes, indeed that would be wonderful, but none of these speakers offers any program that will help get us there. But I can't blame any of them for this, because I've never heard any rational White Nationalist leader offer us a detailed, step-by-step program. They all admit they don't have the answer as to how exactly we're going to get from where we are to where we want to be. The "movement," as I see it, is trying to drive to a destination without a road map.

Be that as it may, Griffin's latest book is filled with life stories of ordinary men and women conscious of their racial roots and unafraid to live their lives in accordance with their own traditional values, not the values promulgated by the jews in our popular culture. These are thoughtful and articulate folks, and this is a book that deserves to be a bestseller. It would be particularly appropriate for it to be sold at airport book stores, because it is a short volume that could easily be read in its entirety on a coast-to-coast flight. Unfortunately Griffin faced the same problems with "Sheaf" that he did with his earlier book. The jews, as you can imagine, won't touch this one either, so it has also been privately published. However, I see that it is currently available on amazon.com for around $12, and at that price there is no reason it shouldn't be on every White Nationalist's bookshelf.

from "The Hispanic Challenge and the Logic of Empire"

[E. Michael Jones, Culture Wars, May 2004

very long article, with subsection dealing with "One Sheaf, One Vine":

White Racism

White racism appeals to those who lack identity: "The antiwhite propaganda on television," Tom Fleming writes, "only makes them sympathetic to David Duke, and looking around for something to believe in, some place to take their stand, they can find nothing more compelling than the abstractions of white identity" as a substitute for religious and ethnic identity. "So long as whites remain nominally Christian (or Jewish) and dimly aware of their ethnic heritages" they remain immune to the appeal of racism. White racists, according to Fleming, want to "undermine both Christianity (which they regard as a stumbling block to genocide) and the national traditions that keep white people divided."

The fact that white racism is another word for deracination is something which Robert S. Griffin makes clear, albeit inadvertently, in his recent book One Sheaf, One Vine: Racially Conscious White Americans Talk about Race (no place: Robert Griffin, 2004) ISBN 1-4107-4419-1. One Sheaf grew out of Griffin's previous book, a biography of William Pierce, founder of the white nationalist organization the National Alliance. Griffin found himself contacted by so many "racially conscious" Americans after his Pierce book that he decided to write another book about the audience for his first. What emerges in the course of the book is a sort of anatomy of the typical white racist. In enumerating their characteristics, deracination rates high on the list; it is the one thing that just about everyone shares; deracination becomes by the end of the Griffin book another word for white racism, something which becomes especially apparent in the generation of the baby boomer's children.

Rob Freeman, who is 33 years old, is a "racially conscious American," because

for white kids of my generation, it seemed as if our heritage was taken away from us. We grew up with no place in the world, that's what it felt like. My parents and most of the parents of the kids I knew were liberals, and they didn't pass on a legacy of who we were. They didn't give us an identity.

The typical racist is an atheist who used to be a Protestant, living in a country which deliberately destroyed local communities. Since the Protestant churches were essentially voluntary organizations, as opposed to geographical parishes, they were especially vulnerable. In addition to that, their oftentimes unsophisticated theology led to rejection on rational grounds. Alex Linder, who is two years older than Freeman and now runs the Vanguard News Network, was born in Madison, Wisconsin into a family that then moved to three other states, and raised by a mother who was a Christian Scientist. Linder eventually rejected Christian Science because of its irrational contention that "disease is a product of bad thought." That, he felt, was "a ridiculous claim. Just like the idea that Jesus walked on water." Linder then became associated
with movement conservatism in the Reagan years, specifically the American Spectator, where he served as an intern, and when that god failed too, he became a white racist because "racism is simply factual reality," and "true conservatism has to do with facts and limits." Linder despises Mexicans ("They are offbrand people.") but not as much as he despises college administrators. "They are very weak and unprincipled people. I consider them worse than Mexicans, the absolute lowest.

Deracination is not limited to former Protestants. One 21-year-old college student was raised in Southern California because that is where his Canadian father met his Irish mother. He attended Catholic grade schools and "was pretty religious growing up." (I assume the past tense is intentional.) The defining racial moment for this young man came when his mother took him and his sister back to Ireland at the end of the third grade. The first thing that the young man noticed was the fact that Ireland was "all white." The next thing he noticed was the fact that everyone wasn't an anonymous stranger, as was the case in California. "I thought it was really cool how close the community was there and how everybody knew each other and how everybody's family went back. Ireland was just a very close-knit, family-oriented place and I really liked it a lot.... In California I didn't even know my next-door neighbors, where in Ireland, I knew everybody."

Racism is, in other words, a function of lack of community. It is also an argument for the ethnic parish, which the Catholic Church abandoned at the moment the federal government began promoting large-scale black migration from the South to the cities of the north. As the Irish Jesuits at the Gesu parish in North Philadelphia argued in the 1930s, Black Catholics could have preserved their faith and identity better if they had been given an ethnic parish of their own rather than attempting to integrate them into the ethnic parishes which had already been established for other nationalities. The same is true now for the Irish and the descendants of the other European ethnics now living in a place like Southern California. If the Church had allowed these people to retain their own communities, they would not now be abandoning Catholicism for white racism.

[more this afternoon]

I look forward to people's comments on all this. I'm going to comment at length, almost sentence by sentence. Jones is wrong or confused in almost every single thing he says, but I will straighten him out. I suspect some of the problem here is generational. Jones simply does not understand the position of the average younger white today.


White racism appeals to those who lack identity:


That's the wrong way to put it: whites have been DENIED racial identity. Whites have been deracinated by the government, the jew-controlled government, with malice aforethought. That's fact one. Fact two, "White" is every bit as valid an identity as any other. You're "white" when you're under attack by Indians in the 17th century America, Zulus in 19th century Africa, or jews today. Jones is half-German, half-Irish. Most people reading this are a mix of ethnicities. Blended American ethnicity resulting in a new ethnicity -- American -- is perfectly valid. VNN is every bit as valid as Jones's mediocre attempts at making "modern" folk tunes -- in fact, what Jones and VNN are attempting are exactly the same thing. Artificial resuscitation may not be as good as natural breathing, but when you've been shoved in a ice-cold river for thirty minutes, you'll take what you can get.


"The antiwhite propaganda on television," Tom Fleming writes, "only makes them sympathetic to David Duke, and looking around for something to believe in, some place to take their stand, they can find nothing more compelling than the abstractions of white identity" as a substitute for religious and ethnic identity."

Kids in multiracial schools group themselves instinctively by race, not by ethnicity. The white kids go wtih other white kids, they don't ask if they're Irish or Polish. It may be good for Catholic coffers to pretend that niggers are Irish are Germans are Mexicans, but it is not so, and Catholics do not see it that way, as even Jones half-admits. Think a little harder on that front and see where you end up, Jones. Right where we are if you reason rightly.


So long as whites remain nominally Christian (or Jewish) and dimly aware of their ethnic heritages" they remain immune to the appeal of racism.

Yeah - so long as they remain brainwashed by interested padres, they fail to see the truth. All those wonderful ethnic Lutherans and Catholics are so dimly aware of their ethnic heritages they have no problem accepting money from ZOG to import Somalis to rape their own sisters. Christianity is here today, there tomorrow. Organized Christians are the very worst practitioners of the very things Jones and Fleming despise.


White racists, according to Fleming, want to "undermine both Christianity (which they regard as a stumbling block to genocide) and the national traditions that keep white people divided."

This is one of my pet peeves. These guys, ostensibly fighting more or less the same things racists are, become slovenly in construing the arguments of race-realists, whereas they're lawyerly everywhere else. Perhaps the lack of political and social sanction leads to laxness? I think so.

Christianity as a "stumbling block to genocide"? Are you kidding? Christianity has no problem with genocide, whether it's Spaniards cleansing mestizos for the glory of Isabella, or encouraging the evolution of universal tan man today. Christianity is everything and nothing -- whatever it needs to be to get along with the men in power. It signs concordat with racist nazi and racist jew alike.
The nazis are the ones whose positions don't change. The nazis never sucked jewish cock, unlike Jones's boss, the kike-polack Wojtla.

Flemio as is usual with his lazy self, opines in the absence of knowledge. Racialists don't want to destroy national traditions. Racialists want to PRESERVE national traditions in an all-white context. Hitler didn't destroy the nations he conquered. He ruled with a light hand. That's why men from Norway to Ukraine signed up with the SS to kick ass on judeo-Russia. Flemio, you're an idiot. Like all idiots, you're chock full of things you know that just ain't so. But who can take seriously a man who writes on an issue like race on which he's literally physically afraid to LINK to the sites where his opponents make their best arguments? Same can be said of Jones.

White people are less divided today than they've ever been. Across the globe, from the Urals to the Antipodes they are under legal and political threat amounting to impending genocide at the hands of the most racist and hateful group that ever existed. The Christian Church so far from being an enemy of these jews HELPS them. A man leaning on Christianity, a jewish lie, is a fool.


The fact that white racism is another word for deracination

Wow, Jones, that would really be clever if it were. GKChesterton himself couldn't have put it more plainly, ha. White racism may be the result of deracination, which itself is the result of jewish control of the government, which made any white identity save the shallowest "hate." White racism is an attempt by a growing number of good, honest, brave men to restore White traditions, and, most important, to create a mutual protection society than can overthrow the jew, thereby allowing them to go back to the good old stuff that was lost, including the assinine christianity which, with its universalism, is in large measure responsible for getting us into this mess. But when we take power, you will not be allowed to preach the lie of racial equality. Somehow I think you and your church will find a way to live with that. You always do.

is something which Robert S. Griffin makes clear, albeit inadvertently, in his recent book One Sheaf, One Vine: Racially Conscious White Americans Talk about Race (no place: Robert Griffin, 2004) ISBN 1-4107-4419-1. One Sheaf grew out of Griffin's previous book, a biography of William Pierce, founder of the white nationalist organization the National Alliance. Griffin found himself contacted by so many "racially conscious" Americans after his Pierce book that he decided to write another book about the audience for his first. What emerges in the course of the book is a sort of anatomy of the typical white racist. In enumerating their characteristics, deracination rates high on the list;

Typically biased language, Jones: everyone with one less kid than you is a "sexual degenerate," and anyone who didn't grow up where you did is "deracinated." It is a simple fact that you and I and everyone reading this have more in common as White Americans than ethnic traditions. America is a blend, and a creation of something new, with its own roots, stretching back hundreds of years. If you're born in America and you think that because you're of Irish or German blood you're an Irishman or German rather than an American, you're an idiot. An American is just as real a thing as either of these.


it is the one thing that just about everyone shares; deracination becomes by the end of the Griffin book another word for white racism, something which becomes especially apparent in the generation of the baby boomer's children.


This just has to be generational. The ethnic America Jones is talking about died out around the time of WWII, and even then it was mostly dead. What we're talking about today is trying to salvage Whtie traditions of value, wherever they come from. And if they don't come from America, then borrowing them. And creating a viable politics to prevent our very genotype from being wiped from the face of the earth. Something the Catholic church you defend above all else including factual reality has no problem with.


Rob Freeman, who is 33 years old, is a "racially conscious American," because

for white kids of my generation, it seemed as if our heritage was taken away from us. We grew up with no place in the world, that's what it felt like. My parents and most of the parents of the kids I knew were liberals, and they didn't pass on a legacy of who we were. They didn't give us an identity.

The typical racist is an atheist who used to be a Protestant, living in a country which deliberately destroyed local communities. Since the Protestant churches were essentially voluntary organizations, as opposed to geographical parishes, they were especially vulnerable. In addition to that, their oftentimes unsophisticated theology led to rejection on rational grounds.

Yes, Christian Science is pure witch doctor, but look at your church: the "for God's sake don't let 'em read church." Real impressive. You can't keep us down on the ethnic farm once we've learned them letters, Jones. You may prefer the whimsies of a bobblehead Polack to the workings of your own brain, but I don't. America wasn't founded by Catholics, South America was. Nice work, but I prefer what my Aryans achieved up here. Race doesn't matter, eh Jones, unless you have to live in mudtown.


Alex Linder, who is two years older than Freeman and now runs the Vanguard News Network, was born in Madison, Wisconsin into a family that then moved to three other states, and raised by a mother who was a Christian Scientist.


I don't necessarily blame Jones for this, but it completely distorts my upbringing by making it sound like I was raised by a single parent in poverty. The opposite of the case: two parent family, and upper-middle class. Stabler than Jones's family I'd be willing to bet.

Linder eventually rejected Christian Science

That 'eventually' is just plain wrong. I never accepted Christian Science for one minute.


because of its irrational contention that "disease is a product of bad thought." That, he felt, was "a ridiculous claim. Just like the idea that Jesus walked on water." Linder then became associated
with movement conservatism in the Reagan years, specifically the American Spectator, where he served as an intern, and when that god failed too,


That's a Catholic attempting to gibe. Feh, I give it half a golf clap. I thought I was just looking for a place to publish my satire; under the pen of clever Jones that transforms into a search for a "god that failed." I don't look for things that aren't there, Jones, that's your Catholic speciality. I'm sure Aristotle would agree it is right reasoning to conclude that a god that does not exist cannot fail.


he became a white racist because "racism is simply factual reality," and "true conservatism has to do with facts and limits." Linder despises Mexicans ("They are offbrand people.")

I give Jones credit for leaving this quote as is, without commenting on it. Either he thinks this quote is funny, or he thinks it points out how evil racist me is. But if Jones put a poll, and took honest reader responses, the vast majority would agree with me, that mexicans are shit people they want nothing to do with. What Jones doesn't but needs to grasp is that religion is not even close to race in terms of power. When the chips are down, Catholics are White well before they're Catholics. Jones, however, belongs to the Cantrell school: he'd rather see his beloved White ethnic Catholics disappear, as long as the hated WASP is dragged down with them. So he closes his piece, I'll quote it later, with a rather pusillanimous bit of schadenfreude about mexican demographics doing in the American empire. He speculates that perhaps a new Europe will arise out of what comes next. Apparently no one has informed him that Mexico has existed for a good long while, and nothing impressive has ever come out of there, despite its being 99.44% One True Faith. But see, to appreciate that, he'd have to undertstand that Europe is blood, not Buhlief. Catholics trained up in the Faith have a difficult time with simple factual reality that goes against what they were brainwashed would result in their going to Hell if they doubted. Hey, Jones: time to grow up on race, buddy. I will take 100 of your people for every one you take of mine. Race trumps religion every time. You Catholics would never get in the way of a viable racial movement. In fact, most of you would be down on your knees thanking jew jesus, the woodless waterskier, that itz coming.


but not as much as he despises college administrators. "They are very weak and unprincipled people. I consider them worse than Mexicans, the absolute lowest.

Who can deny I am right? Not me. I find myself compelled to agree with myself, even to celebrate with a self-high-five my exceptionally judicious appraisal of those sub-nightcrawler worms.


Deracination is not limited to former Protestants. One 21-year-old college student was raised in Southern California because that is where his Canadian father met his Irish mother. He attended Catholic grade schools and "was pretty religious growing up." (I assume the past tense is intentional.) The defining racial moment for this young man came when his mother took him and his sister back to Ireland at the end of the third grade. The first thing that the young man noticed was the fact that Ireland was "all white." The next thing he noticed was the fact that everyone wasn't an anonymous stranger, as was the case in California. "I thought it was really cool how close the community was there and how everybody knew each other and how everybody's family went back. Ireland was just a very close-knit, family-oriented place and I really liked it a lot.... In California I didn't even know my next-door neighbors, where in Ireland, I knew everybody."

[quote]
Racism is, in other words, a function of lack of community.

No, this is, again, confused. Racism describes many things, but here it describes a reaction among some, perhaps the most sensitive and thoughtful, to life in a political context that denies them any connection to viable traditions and larger community. Leaving them atomized consumers unacquainted with history beyond the "fact" they belong to an historically guilty race. Many sense there is something wrong, very, very wrong with today's world; the racists do something about it. Their options are limited BY LAW. Again, Jones is probably at a generational remove from the younger people in the Griffin book. He's blaming the victim for being deracinated without naming the jew who yanked him out by the roots. You can't grow new communities and traditions overnight, especially when white association has been CRIMINALIZED under "civil rights."

There's also the fact that racism, disliking and seeking to avoid blacks, is found wherever whites and blacks contact. Whites do not want to live by blacks. Ever. Anywhere. Anytime in history. Not even in a lunch room. Racism exists whether there's "community" or not. There is racism under 19th century slavery, and in 21st century muticulturalism. Racism in its aspect as negative-reaction-to-niggers becomes a greater part of racism-the-whole as white population percentages decline, and mass media become ubiquitous and travel times drop. The world Jones has in mind, 1830s farming community, I suppose, simply does not exist and is never coming back. White ingenuity led from competing/cooperating Irish/German farming communities directly to the suburbs that produced me and most of the people reading this. That's just change, it's not the worst thing in the world -- that came from the outside, from the jews and the NWO MNCs -- and from White forgetting, in the absence of savages, that we were White men. White racism today is an attempt to come up with viable personal and political answers in an extremely hostile context. It's not like Jones's church is doing anything but exacerbating the problem with its asinine, this-century-politically-correct universalism. As I've always said, asses at masses is the only thing the Catholic church ever has or will stand for - reliably.


It is also an argument for the ethnic parish, which the Catholic Church abandoned at the moment the federal government began promoting large-scale black migration from the South to the cities of the north.


How about that? the heroic Catholics knuckling under, as always. The only time the Catholic church ever got tough was trying to strangle Protestantism in the cradle. The Catholic church wants nothing to do with any enemy on remotely equal terms. Rather like the British. "The Church is Europe" - ugh, god. Let's cross ourselves and pray not.


As the Irish Jesuits at the Gesu parish in North Philadelphia argued in the 1930s, Black Catholics could have preserved their faith and identity better if they had been given an ethnic parish of their own rather than attempting to integrate them into the ethnic parishes which had already been established for other nationalities. The same is true now for the Irish and the descendants of the other European ethnics now living in a place like Southern California. If the Church had allowed these people to retain their own communities, they would not now be abandoning Catholicism for white racism.
[more this afternoon]

Say, Jones, how are those nigger Catholics doing over there in Africa? they turned any of those monkeys into humans yet?

Say hello to my li'l fren Jesus, world's first successful alchemist.

Say, Jones, how are those nigger Catholics doing over there in Africa? they turned any of those monkeys into humans yet?

Say hello to my li'l fren Jesus, world's first successful alchemist.

It isn't just the Catholics trying to make monkeys in Africa into humans. Hell, even the Mormon Church is now building temples in Africa and trying to convert those nigger savages. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young must be rolling over in their graves now. Next thing you know they'll be bringing them over to Utah just like they've done with the southsea island shitskins they supposedly "converted" but are now causing all kinds of gang problems. How much longer will SLC remain a relatively clean and safe White city?

rich brooks
http://www.whitealert.com

I'm almost finished with it. Good book so far, though much shorter than Fame of A Dead Man's Deeds. You were definately the most spirited and aggressive of those interviewed and had the more positive message, Alex. Many of the others, while right on the money information and insight wise, were extremely doom and gloom.

Things certainly do look doom and gloom but its still good to nevertheless here a positive outlook.

An example of my point, contra Jones, that average Catholics are White first, Catholic second:

Fear and Loathing in Suburbia: Crime, and the Irrationality of White Racism
By Tim Wise
*
June 16, 2001
*
If intellectual gymnastics were an Olympic sport, we white folks would be the team to beat. Especially whites from the suburbs, who go to amazing and tortured lengths to convince others (and perhaps themselves) that their wish to steer clear of blacks in the cities isn’t even a little racist.
*
And the stars of the team would have to be those south suburb Chicagoans who recently voted to keep a black Parish school from participating in their Catholic League Athletic Conference. Although this decision may be rescinded due to bad publicity within a few days, there is little question that the initial vote more adequately represented the gut feelings of the persons involved.
*
Oh sure, there were the usual insistences that the decision wasn’t racial, but motivated only by concern for the "safety" of white children and mothers who would have to travel to the mostly black community of Auburn-Gresham, on Chicago’s south side for games. You know how "those people" can be, after all: just waiting to jump Miss Daisy and Peppermint Patty as they pull up in their Jeep Cherokee.

http://twist.lib.uiowa.edu/humrel/Wise%20Fear%20and%20Loathing.htm

An example of my point, contra Jones, that average Catholics are White first, Catholic second:

Fear and Loathing in Suburbia: Crime, and the Irrationality of White Racism
By Tim Wise
*
June 16, 2001
*
If intellectual gymnastics were an Olympic sport, we white folks would be the team to beat. Especially whites from the suburbs, who go to amazing and tortured lengths to convince others (and perhaps themselves) that their wish to steer clear of blacks in the cities isn’t even a little racist.
*
And the stars of the team would have to be those south suburb Chicagoans who recently voted to keep a black Parish school from participating in their Catholic League Athletic Conference. Although this decision may be rescinded due to bad publicity within a few days, there is little question that the initial vote more adequately represented the gut feelings of the persons involved.
*
Oh sure, there were the usual insistences that the decision wasn’t racial, but motivated only by concern for the "safety" of white children and mothers who would have to travel to the mostly black community of Auburn-Gresham, on Chicago’s south side for games. You know how "those people" can be, after all: just waiting to jump Miss Daisy and Peppermint Patty as they pull up in their Jeep Cherokee.

http://twist.lib.uiowa.edu/humrel/Wise%20Fear%20and%20Loathing.htm
I lived in Chicago for ten years and knew Irish Catholics who lived on the far southwest side and south suburbs. All of them (this was during the 70s) had moved out of their original south side neighborhoods to get away from the niggers, and were very open and explicit about it.

I appreciate the comments here on both Jones' and Griffin's works. I have read neither Griffin book, but of the two, I think One Sheaf.. sounds the more interesting and relevant of the two.

Jones' techniques of damning with faint praise and ultra-extrapolation that A.L. exposes are pretty well-worn and tiresome. I particularly like the gibe about TAC being some "god that failed" as if Linder was a little, lost member of the flock desperately looking for a belief system to cling to that ultimately let him down and so made him a nasty racist. He doesn't come right out and say that, but it's certainly the impression he seems to want to leave when you read between the lines, something I'm finding I do reflexively nowadays.

All those wonderful ethnic Lutherans and Catholics are so dimly aware of their ethnic heritages they have no problem accepting money from ZOG to import Somalis to rape their own sisters.

This falls under the "God Works in Mysterious Ways" clause; sort of a metaphysical "get out of jail free" card if you will.

Racism describes many things, but here it describes a reaction among some, perhaps the most sensitive and thoughtful, to life in a political context that denies them any connection to viable traditions and larger community. Leaving them atomized consumers unacquainted with history beyond the "fact" they belong to an historically guilty race. Many sense there is something wrong, very, very wrong with today's world; the racists do something about it. Their options are limited BY LAW. Again, Jones is probably at a generational remove from the younger people in the Griffin book. He's blaming the victim for being deracinated without naming the jew who yanked him out by the roots. You can't grow new communities and traditions overnight, especially when white association has been CRIMINALIZED under "civil rights."

All of which goes a long way towards explaining the "gloom and doom" atmosphere prevalent among One Sheaf...'s subjects. It's really tough to be awakened to the situation and not get morose about it, especially when you realize how entrenched the Forces of Shit are and how miniscule the (dis)organized opposition is. Gloom and doom, I propose, are simply anger without a healthy target or outlet. It's up to "us" to provide that target and channel the outlet when the dam begins to crumble. In that sense I see the value of the "worse is better" school of thought, though I part company with its adherents when the deaths of millions of Whites are gleefully seen as a means to an end. Or, in the words of H-addict and mudshark Janis Joplin, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." By that marker, the Jews, the flag-waving Freeper idiots and all the other "concervative" detritus are correct: Whites are becoming more "free" every day. You will see action when the consequences for not acting are greater than those for acting. We're not there yet, what with niggerball, booze and bread for all, but it is coming.

There's also the fact that racism, disliking and seeking to avoid blacks, is found wherever whites and blacks contact. Whites do not want to live by blacks. Ever. Anywhere. Anytime in history. Not even in a lunch room. Racism exists whether there's "community" or not.

Very true and it must be incredibly tiring for Jews to have to constantly manufacture a synthetic world where this is not the case, in conflict with reality. In that sense, Talmudvision must be seen as God's greatest gift to the Jewish race ever, as it makes the constant work so much easier. It also helps that PC law, while mostly unwritten (the above-noted snivel-rights laws being visible exceptions), almost functions on autopilot now after a half-century of programming. There needn't be a list of Jew-approved laws posted at every "journalist's" desk. They know through long experience what's allowed and what's not on an instinctive level, so thorough is the programming. I still can't believe there are people in this day and age who even remotely believe anything they see on the televitz. If the frigging weatherman, er -person, 'scuse me, says it's daytime, I'd go outside and check twice. Nothing appears on TV by accident, down to the smallest detail. If you'll permit an illustration: local news running a fluff piece on a waterslide park and all the hot weather, etc. The two kids they focus on are a cute-as-a-button little blond girl and, you guessed it, sitting next to her, a nigger the spitting image of a quarter-scale Fat Albert.

Racism is, in other words, a function of lack of community.

They never want to talk about the the stats, the probabilities, the facts of race. They want to know "what makes someone become a racist." If we reply, "Because race is real" they blink their eyes and chew their lip as if waiting for the real reason. They want to find the human flaw that makes us this way as if we are analogous to folk who like to set cats on fire or who enjoy being beaten by a dominatrix. If I were to say, "I'm a goldurn racist cuz my momma never loved me and my daddy left when I wuz three" then their eyes would light up as if that answered everything.

Linder despises Mexicans ("They are offbrand people.") but not as much as he despises college administrators. "They are very weak and unprincipled people. I consider them worse than Mexicans, the absolute lowest.

YES!
Safe in their protected little workshop away from reality, they come up with the lies to excuse the murder of Whites.

I'll buy One Sheaf when it comes to Sweden, as I'm sure it will. The Fame will be printed in Swedish soon. When I first read it on the internet I couldn't say whether Dr. Griffin was a nationalist or not: the choice of the topic would say he was, but he writes things that would no doubt make Dr. Pierce embarrassed, and some other details Pierce probably wouldn't want in there either. So you're left with the impression he is being completely honest, which he probably was. Now that I know Griffin is a nationalist I understand he wrote the book in the completely unbiased way few pull off in their work to make it that more appealing and convincing; you could give it to a non-believer and it would leave a strong impression with all its facts and logic.

True about Ireland there: how could anyone think a country with many races could be held together that well? Certainly not the Jews who say it. It takes a White Ireland, a White Sweden, a White Finland to make people feel they belong together. You will have the same body language, the same assumptions, the same expressions and of course the same appearance. Sure beats being an atomized stranger in a land of strangers.

I had the honour of meeting Griffin at a Blood and Honour meeting in Vlaanderen. I had a long conversation with him and recieved a signed copy of this book. I could not help but feel sorry for a man that thinks in such an opposite way than his fellow professors. One must understand how lonely it must be for Robert Griffin to make his thoughts public in the liberal University atmosphere. I understand now and have empathy for him and his plight, because it is mine as well.