Hitler the Christian Evangelist
Below is an excerpt from an article written by Jews, I have found it to not only be useful but also very informative. As much as it sickens me to say that a Jew has done something informative their motives was assuredly in the wrong place by trying to destroy both Hitler and Christianity in the below quoted article.
The link will give several references from Hitler proving that he not only was a Christian but could not have done what he did without the Christians. I wonder if anyone will change their sig to “Hitler could not have become leader of Germany with the help of his Christian brothers” after reading this thread.



People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism, Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda, Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it.

Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their Christian audiences, but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian Bible. Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and Providence but also Fate, Social Darwinism, and politics. He spoke, unashamedly, about God, fanaticism, idealism, dogma, and the power of propaganda. Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Hitler certainly believed in the Bible's God."My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of Christian believing people.


http://www.jews-for-allah.com/messianic-jews/christianhistorywithjews/hitler.htm

The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the jew. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate it's adversaries in the name of love.

The preceeding are quotes from Table Talks 1941-1944.

[QUOTE=Whirlwind] Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate it's adversaries in the name of love.

The preceeding are quotes from Table Talks 1941-1944.[/QUOTE]

Christianity didn't exterminate anybody in the name of love. If people converted and gave up their uncivilized devil worship, fine. The Catholic church is full of pagan practices of the converted pagans - which the church had no problem with as long as it was not nig behavior such as get drunk and screw in public, murder etc.

Present day judeo-christianity is exactly the opposite of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ personally whipped the sons of Satan out of the temple. George Bush sucks their dick, literally, if it's true he's a closet homo.

[QUOTE=999]Present day judeo-christianity is exactly the opposite of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ personally whipped the sons of Satan out of the temple. [/QUOTE]

That is so true. Saying judeo-christianity is like saying satan-christianity, all through out the NT Judaism is condemned and it even goes as far as to condemn "judazing ways". Judeo-christianity is never taught in the NT.

Oh yeah Jarl, I have the copyright on the term "Real Christian" I will thank you not to use that anymore.

[QUOTE=Whirlwind]The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the jew. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate it's adversaries in the name of love.

The preceeding are quotes from Table Talks 1941-1944.[/QUOTE]

Mere propaganda you usefull idiot. One of the man goals of Bolshevism is to destroy Christianity in the West. Read some Antonio Gramsci sometime you uneducated brute.

Kevin Mcdonald says Christianity is an anti-Jewish evolutionary strategy. I.E It is designed to defeat the Jews.

The Merovingian Holy Western Empire versus the unchristian Jewish Khazar/Russian (Khazaria) empire. The Holy Roman empire which included Germany was the main force against Jews before Hitler.

Imperfect perfection. Born with sin that can only be redeemed One Way (TM).
What a load of crap.
God's will, or free will?
Bolshevism shares christianity's "we all be equal" line, dope.

Statement of Adolf Hitler on July 5, 1944:

"The gods love those of whom they ask the impossible and who ask the impossible of them. And when we do the impossible we shall assuredly win the approval of Providence. I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but deep down I am a pious man, and believe that whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural laws framed by God and never capitulates will never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in the end, receive the blessings of Providence."

Quoted from Hitler's Letters and Notes, compiled by Werner Maser.

Hitler was a christian and he saved christianity. But it was the christianity of the new testament, not the earlier pro-jewish version .

The 'mosaic law' was 'a tutor leading to Christ'.

Jesus turned against the 'pharisees and scribes' . He threw the moneylenders out of the temple.

That will do for me :cool:

Hey FJ, is that quote supposed to support the position that Hitler was a christian? Lawgiver? Blessings of providence? Not the things christians typically say. Sounds more like a generic belief in a supreme entity. Could be any god. Seems this is a tricky subject. Between politics and his personal feelings, it's difficult to call one way or the other. I stand by my opinion. But that's what it is, my opinion.
Bush goes to church every Sunday, so he's a christian, right?

Whirlwind,

Aye, that was my point in digging out Maser's quote.

It was late in Hitler's career -- he had less than a year to live and presumably didn't give a shit what the lemmings in Germany thought anymore -- and he was speaking off-the-cuff to friends. A man reveals his true thoughts that way.

God as "Lawgiver" and "fighting bravely defense of the natural laws" is Thule Group talk, which is where Hitler learned his esoteric German theology.

Hitler could have been a Thule pagan and Christian at the same time if you consider that Freemasons are similar. George Washington's appeals to "the Great Architect" are masonic, not Christian, but Washington also showed up at church and read from the Book of Common Prayer.

I think the whole point is you can't pin men like this down. Hitler's grounding was Teutonic Pagan to the core ("the gods"?) but he used Christianity also, probably feeling it reflected the German "group mind" in some way.

Being pagan and Christian at the same time is no big deal. Richard the Lion Hearted was both and saw no contradiction between the two. Why should Adolf have been any different?

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]You can not be a christian and pagan at the same time...[/QUOTE]

Actually you can. Gnostics use the Christian mythos in a totally pagan cosmology. The beat poet Kenneth Rexroth had interesting things to say about this.

There is also an ancient "Christian" scripture which was once considered part of the canon, called The Shepherd of Hermas. There are several different translations online. It's Christian, after a fashion, at the same time it's blatantly Hermetic and follows the pagan symbolism quite openly.

Most of the original Church Fathers considered Hermas to be just as authorative as any of the authorized gospels. It didn't make the cut into the New Testament only because its source was a bit too obvious.

This is tricky territory. Gnosticism has always had an undertow of racial awareness. Hitler's varied and inconsistant statements on religion and spiritualty make great (and consistant) sense from a gnostic viewpoint.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]Hitler the Christian Evangelist
Below is an excerpt from an article written by Jews, I have found it to not only be useful but also very informative. As much as it sickens me to say that a Jew has done something informative their motives was assuredly in the wrong place by trying to destroy both Hitler and Christianity in the below quoted article.
The link will give several references from Hitler proving that he not only was a Christian but could not have done what he did without the Christians. I wonder if anyone will change their sig to “Hitler could not have become leader of Germany with the help of his Christian brothers” after reading this thread.



People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism, Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda, Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it.

Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their Christian audiences, but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian Bible. Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and Providence but also Fate, Social Darwinism, and politics. He spoke, unashamedly, about God, fanaticism, idealism, dogma, and the power of propaganda. Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Hitler certainly believed in the Bible's God."My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of Christian believing people.


http://www.jews-for-allah.com/messianic-jews/christianhistorywithjews/hitler.htm[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Red]Once again we have a christian who tries to distort history in order that he may reconcile his racialism with his childhood Jewish supersticions. You know as well as I do that Hitler as a politician had to use the tools of propoganda in order to win over and maintain the support of a nominally Christian nation.
Therefore his utterances on the subject of Christianity and religion in general contained within his public speaches must be regarded as open to interpretation. To get a real flavour for Hitlers views on Christianity one should read "Hitlers Tabletalk" where his anti-christian views, uttered in private are laid bare for the entire post war world to read.
I quote "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death."[14/10/41, midday]
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianitys illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."[Night of 11-12/7/41]
"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.
Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining of society."
[Night of 19/10/41]
"Kerrl, with the noblest of intensions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I dont believe the things possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself."
[14/12/41, midday]
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
[10/10/41, midday]
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[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]Actually that is total bullshit. A christian is one who believes in jesus as the ONLY living son of YAHEW a monothiest god...[/QUOTE]

Doc, I was talking about gnostics. They believe no such thing.

It is humorous to see people vainly quoting table talks and back room discussions taken out of context (if they even exist). I have my copy of Mein Kampf here in my sight laying on my desk. This is the thoughts of the great one and this is what I use when I formulate an opinion of Adolf Hitler. Backroom discussions can be spun to mean anything but I have solid hard evidence of who and what Hitler was right here in my hands and that is all I need.

It is humorous to see people vainly(?) quoting only one source, and claiming to be the authority.

[QUOTE=Keystone]You are exactly right, Shameless Heathen. I'm a Christian and I admit it. Paganism and Christianity are polar opposites if you see them plainly and don't try to link them by being a theological contortionist.

However, there are some in this forum that like to blur the edges of Christianity to make it more, uh, "Aryan" friendly. Which to me is completely unnecessary.


Keystone[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]If you are a Christian then how do you reconcile your racialist beliefs with your Jewish multiracial slave religion? If you are not a racialist then my apologies-take a hike-this forum is not for you![/COLOR]

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]It is humorous to see people vainly quoting table talks and back room discussions taken out of context (if they even exist). I have my copy of Mein Kampf here in my sight laying on my desk. This is the thoughts of the great one and this is what I use when I formulate an opinion of Adolf Hitler. Backroom discussions can be spun to mean anything but I have solid hard evidence of who and what Hitler was right here in my hands and that is all I need.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]I realise that it may be difficult for your mind to grasp this but focus now-"Mein Kampf" was for public consumption. Propoganda in other words. "Table Talk" is an historically faithful record of Hitlers private conversations with his staff and friends-not intended for public consumption and therefore not propoganda. It is in this work that we find the true mind of Hitler.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Keystone]You can't reconcile racialist beliefs with Christianity. It's impossible. If you are a Christian, Jesus the jewish Messiah is your Lord and Savior.

That creates a large problem for white Christian folk like me. In order to fully embrace racialism and reject the jewish worldview, I would have to drop Christianity completely. Don't think for a minute I haven't thought about it.

Vlad and Jarl make very convincing arguments concerning the dangers Christianity poses to the survival of the white race. The evidence is impressive.

I've been interested in modern Asatro and Heathenism for a good number of years. The myths and stories are very attractive to white sensibilites. The overall philosophy seems "cleaner" somehow. It's hard to explain in a few lines. Maybe that could be an alternative for me and others who feel increasingly uncomfortable practicing an offshoot of judaism and who need to be spiritual. I don't know.


Keystone[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]Thank you for your honest reply. Let me know and I can give you information and a link to a suitable Asatru organisation. Just pm me.[/COLOR]

I realise that it may be difficult for your mind to grasp this but focus now-"Mein Kampf" was for public consumption. Propoganda in other words. "Table Talk" is an historically faithful record of Hitlers private conversations with his staff and friends-not intended for public consumption and therefore not propoganda. It is in this work that we find the true mind of Hitler.

It is overly humorous to for someone to mention what my mind finds difficult to grasp when they can’t even spell simple words like realize and propaganda, and didn’t even correctly punctuate Hitler’s. Teach me o great leader that I may someday be as intellectual as you are.

So these table talks tell the truth of Hitler, where is the proof that they are authentic and not something created in the minds of the Jews to further use as propaganda.

Now we have a man or woman (I am being politically correct here) saying that we have Hitler sitting in a cell trying to figure out a way to save his people from the Jews and he says “wow I will use Jewish propaganda and write a book of lies and propaganda to convince the masses that Jews are evil, isn’t it funny that I can use Jewish tactics to do this?”

You can't reconcile racialist beliefs with Christianity. It's impossible. If you are a Christian, Jesus the jewish Messiah is your Lord and Savior.

I have read the bible in nowhere does it claim Jesus to be a Jew or savior of the Jewish people. I even have a degree in theology (watch him boys he may be a troll). So I think I know something about the New Testament.

In "The Testament of Adolf Hitler" (1951) we find the words:

"National Socialism is essentially a religious movement and faith. The Germanic or Aryan world of ideas, both political and religious, will go out as a sacred Gospel to heal mankind."
Our duty is to teach men to see whatever is lovely and truly wonderful in life, and not to become prematurely ill tempered and spiteful. We wish fully to enjoy what is beautiful, to cling to it -- and to avoid, as far as possible, anything that might do harm to people like ourselves.

I can accept that, but I don’t think it says Hitler had a problem with Christianity. Actually it may be Christianity that drove him to his desire to do something for his people.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]It is overly humorous to for someone to mention what my mind finds difficult to grasp when they can’t even spell simple words like realize and propaganda, and didn’t even correctly punctuate Hitler’s. Teach me o great leader that I may someday be as intellectual as you are.

[COLOR=Red]I bet my English is better than your German "Irishman".[/COLOR]

So these table talks tell the truth of Hitler, where is the proof that they are authentic and not something created in the minds of the Jews to further use as propaganda.

[COLOR=Red]The records that constitute "Table Talk" are accepted as accurate by all credible historians.The fact that you seem to blindly accept a post war translation of "Mein Kampf" into English from the original German without questioning its historical accuracy illustrates perfectly your self contradiction and naive faith in the literal truth of Mein Kampf.
Hitler like any politician used propaganda to obtain political power. Indeed the Third Reichs master of the art, Goebels is still studied by politicians today. You could say that National Socialism is responsible for creating this fairly modern mass media of political hype. [/COLOR]

Now we have a man or woman (I am being politically correct here) saying that we have Hitler sitting in a cell trying to figure out a way to save his people from the Jews and he says “wow I will use Jewish propaganda and write a book of lies and propaganda to convince the masses that Jews are evil, isn’t it funny that I can use Jewish tactics to do this?”

[COLOR=Blue]Dont be so bloody stupid and act your age. That is of course presuming that you are an adult.[/COLOR]



I have read the bible in nowhere does it claim Jesus to be a Jew or savior of the Jewish people. I even have a degree in theology (watch him boys he may be a troll). So I think I know something about the New Testament.

[COLOR=Blue]I spent 20 years studying the whole of the bible and I am surprised that you are overlooking the geneaology of Christ contained in both the gospel of Luke and Matthew.If you are maintaining that these geneaologies are in fact lies then the whole basis for believing in the Christ is a lie too.You know or should know that the said Christ came to fulfil the laws and the prophets by his own admission. If he was not a Hebrew then he did not fulfil the law nor the prophets and was a fraud.Either way Christianity is built upon Jewish lies. Your doctorate in theology does not impress me but it does make me suspect your motive for being on this web site. [/COLOR]


I can accept that, but I don’t think it says Hitler had a problem with Christianity. Actually it may be Christianity that drove him to his desire to do something for his people.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]You cant drop a red herring like that without expecting to be challenged.Where is your historical evidence to support such a supposition?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]I bet my English is better than your German "Irishman". COLOR][/QUOTE]
I resent that I am a pure blooded German I will have you know. You cut me, you cut me deep.

I can handle a lot of things but being called Irish is just the last straw.
How would you like it if I called you a Jew or something?
Just leave heritage calling out of it.

Here's a news flash for you "doc", no matter how much time you spend trying to convince people that Hitler was a christian or whatever, it doesn't change the fact that there are 100's of millions of christians out there that would die for the jew before ever considering anything you have to say about them.
Christians will follow the jew to their doom, and there's little you can do to change that.

BTW - Last time I checked NS was built around and conforms to natural law, christianity doesn't exactly adhere to natural law, especially with all the limp-wristed pacifism.

Could someone with a theology degree (ahem) please tell me how the old testament and new testament are in the same book? Old "will"; jews chosen. New "will"; jews cut off. Is that too simple? Why would you want to be a christian if you believe jews are gads chosen? Minor in inverse logic?

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST].......... The christian myth also demands literal belief in it's absurd fables which are against natural law.[/QUOTE]

Not at all. The Bible stuff can be taken allegorically symbolically etc just like other sacred traditions. The efficacy of these anti-Christian arguments wax and wane in proportion to how idiotic and judaized the "Christians" are. A "creationist" tongue-waggling zionists is about as much like a traditionalist Catholic as a first grader is to college graduate.

[QUOTE=Keystone]You can't reconcile racialist beliefs with Christianity. It's impossible. If you are a Christian, Jesus the jewish Messiah is your Lord and Savior.
.......
Keystone[/QUOTE]

You are so wrong about that. There is nothing about a healthy racial-ethnic identity that is inherently in contradiction with Christianity. If you think that then you have misunderstood Christianity. That is not surpising since I think most protestants do in that they have a judaized version and today Catholics are trying their damndest to become like judaized protestants which is why the Church is failing.

Anyhow what is "racialist." That's as sorry of a term as "racially conscious." It suggests a whining desire to be accepted, to sound smart, to cravely obfuscate the signficance of race because you know its unpopular. White Nationalist is a better term because it suggests that we, Whites, have a right to self determination and autonomy, and that is our primary concern. Also "racialism" smacks of the cultic NOPPERs. If you dont like "White Nationalist" how about either doing what Metzger says which is embrace "racism" as a simple term.

Or better yet drop the Jewish frame of "racism" or "racial-ism" or "antisemitism" whatever that is, as the defining element. How about you're just White. Normal, un-label, uncaged, undefined White American.

WRONG. He was a Christian.

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes.html

A popular myth is that Hitler and the Nazi regime were atheists. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mis-translated passages of Hitler's writings, ignorance, shoddy academic research, and prejudice are the source of this misinformation. This photograph shows a belt buckle from a Nazi military uniform. Religion was used by the Nazi regime to justify their violence, hate, and atrocities. Humans have misused religion throughout history, and the Nazi era is no exception. Beware of any who claim "god is on our side". Remember, the World Trade Center attack of 9/11 was a "faith-based initiative".

"The Government of the Reich, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them."
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933

"Almighty God. Dear heavenly father in thy name let us now in pious spirit begin our instruction, enlighten us. Teach us all truth, strengthen us in all that is good, lead us not into temptation, deliver us from all evil in order that, as good human beings, we may faithfully perform our duties and thereby, in time and eternity, be made truly happy. Amen."
-Adolf Hitler

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes/images/nazi.jpg
"God with us," the Nazi motto on military belt buckles. EM German Army belt buckle (Stamped steel, 1937 pattern, made by "R S & S" for Richard Sieper & Sohne Ludenscheid). Photo from the German Militaria Catalog

Yep I'm not fond of Jews and neither are the Catholic Bishops that are getting blasted by them now in Forward magazine this week. Didya see that?

Neither are the Orthodox:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/doc/HotNews.html#58688

Key, you sound like a Jew or some kind of evangelical. Did you say you were Catholic? I'm going to start calling you Keystein again.

I'm not going to rehash again my so called psychiatric version of Christianity, for you as you sound old enough to know better. It's what most Christians believed for the centuries in which we crushed the Jews and everybody else underfoot, it's the judaizing of Christianity via prot yipyap that sent Europe into centuries of fratricidal war and the emancipation of kikery.

If you want to become a tree huggin Odinist, that's great. I dont care. Good for you. Your handwringing over this suggests to me you've been listening to some idiot priest. Whatsa matta, you got a Nigerian in your parish?

If you dont get anything out of it, be my guest to skip it. If you do, might as well keep milkin it. If you are a real badass, you will show up at your church and start thinking of ways to take the goddamned thing over and cast they moneychangers out of the temple.

Nothing would suit the kikes more than for Whites to leave the Church. Of course the Church wants asses in Masses and coins in the coffer. They wont get either in the long run from non-Whites compared to what they had with Whites and so some of them are starting to reconsider the nation-wrecking initiatives the Jewlackeys have spawned in the past few decades.

Now some Cats dont like people like me and dont want people like me because they are Jewloving system hacks who dont want their own current money arrangments disturbed. That is just tough shit for them, I will do what I do, and sooner or later like the Vicar of Christ they meaning both laity and clergy and heirarchy will each make their their choice to either Deny Christ and cringe before the Sanhedrin or follow the example of courage set by Peter later in life.

So, you can be in the game or out. It doesnt matter to me, but let me tell you dont start talking that Thor stuff in front of them niggras at yer bbqs cuz they dont wantz mead they wantz forties. Who dat Thor muhfuggah?

[QUOTE=Keystone]Deny Christ as whom? Deny Christ as what?

You can say it.


Keystone[/QUOTE]

Deny Christ as God Incarnate which is what JEWS are seeking out of them, among other things. What are you seeking Keystein?

It's the Jews who place the emphasis on Christ's worldly ethnicity, to aggrandize themselves and detract from the notion that he had a Divine Person as well. You aid in that whenever you follow their lead with your "jewish carpenter" stuff.

Go lissen to some mud dug lemon brown johnson blues, Old Scratch is calling you.

[QUOTE=albion]WRONG. He was a Christian.

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes.html

A popular myth is that Hitler and the Nazi regime were atheists. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mis-translated passages of Hitler's writings, ignorance, shoddy academic research, and prejudice are the source of this misinformation. This photograph shows a belt buckle from a Nazi military uniform. Religion was used by the Nazi regime to justify their violence, hate, and atrocities. Humans have misused religion throughout history, and the Nazi era is no exception. Beware of any who claim "god is on our side". Remember, the World Trade Center attack of 9/11 was a "faith-based initiative".

"The Government of the Reich, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them."
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933

"Almighty God. Dear heavenly father in thy name let us now in pious spirit begin our instruction, enlighten us. Teach us all truth, strengthen us in all that is good, lead us not into temptation, deliver us from all evil in order that, as good human beings, we may faithfully perform our duties and thereby, in time and eternity, be made truly happy. Amen."
-Adolf Hitler

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes/images/nazi.jpg
"God with us," the Nazi motto on military belt buckles. EM German Army belt buckle (Stamped steel, 1937 pattern, made by "R S & S" for Richard Sieper & Sohne Ludenscheid). Photo from the German Militaria Catalog[/QUOTE]

Finally a beacon of truth.

Yeah, I'm sold now. A belt buckle with gawd on it PROVES Hitler was a christian. Mere thoughts, writings, and speeches mean nothing. Glad that's settled.

With these round-table talks that involves hitler speaking under the table how accurate can they be? Why all the sudden they seem to appear right now?(never heard of them before).

Possibly because they're not easy to get. Your library will not have a copy. Strange how the words of the villian of the 20th century are so hard to come by. You'd think "they" would want everyone to read his words to see for themselves how insane he was. Could it be that the contrary is true and "they" restrict the words so you will not notice "their" lying?

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]I resent that I am a pure blooded German I will have you know. You cut me, you cut me deep.

I can handle a lot of things but being called Irish is just the last straw.
How would you like it if I called you a Jew or something?
Just leave heritage calling out of it.[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]If you are not a paddy then dont call yourself Sean![/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]You are so wrong about that. There is nothing about a healthy racial-ethnic identity that is inherently in contradiction with Christianity. If you think that then you have misunderstood Christianity. That is not surpising since I think most protestants do in that they have a judaized version and today Catholics are trying their damndest to become like judaized protestants which is why the Church is failing.

Anyhow what is "racialist." That's as sorry of a term as "racially conscious." It suggests a whining desire to be accepted, to sound smart, to cravely obfuscate the signficance of race because you know its unpopular. White Nationalist is a better term because it suggests that we, Whites, have a right to self determination and autonomy, and that is our primary concern. Also "racialism" smacks of the cultic NOPPERs. If you dont like "White Nationalist" how about either doing what Metzger says which is embrace "racism" as a simple term.

Or better yet drop the Jewish frame of "racism" or "racial-ism" or "antisemitism" whatever that is, as the defining element. How about you're just White. Normal, un-label, uncaged, undefined White American.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]You are living in a delusion if you genuinely believe that changing the labels that you use will alter public perception. This is already framed by ZOG-they are hip to any new terms that you wish to use. No point in trying to beat them in a game that they have created the rules for. No, there is only one language that the Jew understands. [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Nothing would suit the kikes more than for Whites to leave the Church. Of course the Church wants asses in Masses and coins in the coffer. They wont get either in the long run from non-Whites compared to what they had with Whites and so some of them are starting to reconsider the nation-wrecking initiatives the Jewlackeys have spawned in the past few decades.

Now some Cats dont like people like me and dont want people like me because they are Jewloving system hacks who dont want their own current money arrangments disturbed. That is just tough shit for them, I will do what I do, and sooner or later like the Vicar of Christ they meaning both laity and clergy and heirarchy will each make their their choice to either Deny Christ and cringe before the Sanhedrin or follow the example of courage set by Peter later in life.

So, you can be in the game or out. It doesnt matter to me, but let me tell you dont start talking that Thor stuff in front of them niggras at yer bbqs cuz they dont wantz mead they wantz forties. Who dat Thor muhfuggah?[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]Go ahead you continue to worship your Jewish slave god. We will worship the gods of our ancestors and that includes Thor. May his hammer strike down those who deny the gods of their ancestors.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]You are living in a delusion if you genuinely believe that changing the labels that you use will alter public perception. This is already framed by ZOG-they are hip to any new terms that you wish to use. No point in trying to beat them in a game that they have created the rules for. No, there is only one language that the Jew understands. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

LOL I'm living in a delusion? You're deluded if you accept the language Jews have forced upon you. Taking control and using OUR linguistic frames is one of the simplest and most compelling things we can do to liberate our minds. You box yourself into defeatism.

As for what you imply, as I have pointed out, there is no armed resistance so waiting around for it to happen equals DOING NOTHING. Better to do many legal initiatives than sit around talking big and DOING NOTHING. On the other hand, if you are "doing something" along those lines then you shouldnt be in contact with this "above ground" aspect of nationalism. So I have to assume that you are one of the many big shit-talking do nothing radicals that populates natinalist-extremist stuff. If you arent you could start by sending in $5 to help the appeal of one of the most radical nationalists there was who is sitting in a cell post his being entrapped and railroaded, named Matt Hale. Credit your contribution and it will make its way back here and you will have my compliments.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Yep I'm not fond of Jews and neither are the Catholic Bishops that are getting blasted by them now in Forward magazine this week. Didya see that?

Neither are the Orthodox:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/doc/HotNews.html#58688

Key, you sound like a Jew or some kind of evangelical. Did you say you were Catholic? I'm going to start calling you Keystein again.

I'm not going to rehash again my so called psychiatric version of Christianity, for you as you sound old enough to know better. It's what most Christians believed for the centuries in which we crushed the Jews and everybody else underfoot, it's the judaizing of Christianity via prot yipyap that sent Europe into centuries of fratricidal war and the emancipation of kikery.

If you want to become a tree huggin Odinist, that's great. I dont care. Good for you. Your handwringing over this suggests to me you've been listening to some idiot priest. Whatsa matta, you got a Nigerian in your parish?

If you dont get anything out of it, be my guest to skip it. If you do, might as well keep milkin it. If you are a real badass, you will show up at your church and start thinking of ways to take the goddamned thing over and cast they moneychangers out of the temple.[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Red]I am an Odinist but I know of no one that "hugs trees". You on the other hand "drink the blood" of a Jewish "god". Why not go the whole hog and take his other bodily fluids as well?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]LOL I'm living in a delusion? You're deluded if you accept the language Jews have forced upon you. Taking control and using OUR linguistic frames is one of the simplest and most compelling things we can do to liberate our minds. You box yourself into defeatism.

[COLOR=Blue]Does "using our linguistic frames" include taking in the bodily fluids of a JEWISH slave "god"?[/COLOR]

As for what you imply, as I have pointed out, there is no armed resistance so waiting around for it to happen equals DOING NOTHING. Better to do many legal initiatives than sit around talking big and DOING NOTHING. On the other hand, if you are "doing something" along those lines then you shouldnt be in contact with this "above ground" aspect of nationalism. So I have to assume that you are one of the many big shit-talking do nothing radicals that populates natinalist-extremist stuff. If you arent you could start by sending in $5 to help the appeal of one of the most radical nationalists there was who is sitting in a cell post his being entrapped and railroaded, named Matt Hale. Credit your contribution and it will make its way back here and you will have my compliments.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]I am not going to give an account of my actions to a Jew god worshipper. [/COLOR]

[QUOTE=albion]WRONG. He was a Christian.

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes.html

A popular myth is that Hitler and the Nazi regime were atheists. Nothing could be further from the truth. Mis-translated passages of Hitler's writings, ignorance, shoddy academic research, and prejudice are the source of this misinformation. This photograph shows a belt buckle from a Nazi military uniform. Religion was used by the Nazi regime to justify their violence, hate, and atrocities. Humans have misused religion throughout history, and the Nazi era is no exception. Beware of any who claim "god is on our side". Remember, the World Trade Center attack of 9/11 was a "faith-based initiative".

"The Government of the Reich, who regard Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attach the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See and are endeavouring to develop them."
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech to the Reichstag on 23 March 1933

"Almighty God. Dear heavenly father in thy name let us now in pious spirit begin our instruction, enlighten us. Teach us all truth, strengthen us in all that is good, lead us not into temptation, deliver us from all evil in order that, as good human beings, we may faithfully perform our duties and thereby, in time and eternity, be made truly happy. Amen."
-Adolf Hitler

http://www.michiganatheists.org/quotes/images/nazi.jpg
"God with us," the Nazi motto on military belt buckles. EM German Army belt buckle (Stamped steel, 1937 pattern, made by "R S & S" for Richard Sieper & Sohne Ludenscheid). Photo from the German Militaria Catalog[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]The motto "Gott mit uns" has been around since the first world war and has nothing to do with National Socialism.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]I am not going to give an account of my actions to a Jew god worshipper. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Wasn't Hitler's take on Christ similar to that of the CI's and also that of the Talmud: that Christ was in fact an Aryan who apposed the jews, he also seemed to think that the plague of christianity was a manipulation of previous events by jew Saul/Paul and his co-horts, turning christianity into an ancient form of Bolshevism? I'm inclined to believe that Christ was a Hitler type character in relation to the jews, although I'm not CI.
I think in 100 years from now unless drastic changes are made, Hitler will be remembered as Hitlerbaumstein the great jewish messiah and in Mein Kampf the words Aryan and Jew will have switched places or meenings.

[QUOTE=Bleach]Wasn't Hitler's take on Christ similar to that of the CI's and also that of the Talmud: that Christ was in fact an Aryan who apposed the jews, he also seemed to think that the plague of christianity was a manipulation of previous events by jew Saul/Paul and his co-horts, turning christianity into an ancient form of Bolshevism? I'm inclined to believe that Christ was a Hitler type character in relation to the jews, although I'm not CI.
I think in 100 years from now unless drastic changes are made, Hitler will be remembered as Hitlerbaumstein the great jewish messiah and in Mein Kampf the words Aryan and Jew will have switched places or meenings.[/QUOTE]

People vainly try to point to the genealogy of Christ to scream Jew; if they knew anything about the OT they would know that there was a lot of Gentile blood in Christ’s veins to. I don’t see any reason to think that Christ was not of Aryan descent unless you are just so bound by tradition that you cannot let it go.

I wouldn’t doubt either that 100 years from now the Jews will have twisted the memory of Hitler to the point they claim he was Pro Jewish.

After all I remember being taught in high school history class that Hitler’s mother was a Jewess and his sister married a Jew, thus making Hitler half Jew and a Jew in law. I almost got expelled for my outburst over that one, if I had been as advanced in Aryan ideology then as I am now I would have been banished for all eternity from that school.

[QUOTE=Jarl]Doc says Christ was only part Jew!

I wonder which part!


:)[/QUOTE]

I don't recall saying he was part Jew. I will scroll up to see if I did say that though and correct the typo. A lot can mean some or all.

[QUOTE=Jarl]Oh just PART = Some huh?

Doc says Christ was only part (or SOME) Jew![/QUOTE]
I didn't say he was any Jew.

Your life was boring until I came along wasn’t it jarl. I was just the person you have been looking for to battle with. LoL.
What are you going to do when ol Doc is gone?

Hey you do know why they call me Doc don’t you? It is not a reference to Doc Martins but it means now hang on to your hat.

Disciple
Of
Christ

Any way I googled Jarl and I am still not clear as to what it means. This is what I found.
Japan Amateur Radio League, Inc.

[QUOTE=DR ANTICHRIST]

As for Jarl's name Jarl is the ancient Pagan Germanic name for the warrior caste. You had the Kon which was basically a priest caste then the Jarl caste then the karl caste then the thrall caste. Or that might be his real name?[/QUOTE]

Thanks Dr. the reason I wanted to know was because that was my grandmothers maiden name.

Christ was not a jew. Anyway, there wasn't anyone that they would call jews either, at that time.

The 'hated race' were the philistines. They are todays jews !

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]I am not going to give an account of my actions to a Jew god worshipper. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Then give an account of your actions to the rest of the pagans and atheists here smarty. Do you have any constructive actions you can point to, to match your big talk? I notice from a few other threads you have a funny way of saying really smartassed stuff and pissing people off. I make you for a teenager who can't have a conversation with people he disagrees with without flaming. Dont expect you're going to keep shit-talking everybody here and not get resistance right back at ya.

I will take a few short paragraphs to explain this the way European Christians understood this for a long, long time back when we were in control.

Up until the time of Christ, Jews were a tribe. A tribe with their own story and it was one they considered special like any other tribe. In their eyes, like any other ethnicity, they were "the people of God." However, their special different thing was the idea of One God as opposed to a pantheon like nearly every other tribe or ethnic group or nation in the world at that time. In this they were only preceeded by akhenaton. Moreover, the hebes were certainly pagans for a long time themselves but over time their "monotheism" became distinct. That is the story of the Old Testament. It speaks to two things: the importance of ethnic identity and pride on the one hand, which in my view is reflected in "The Law" which sets standards for insiders and outsiders, and the other big theme is the idea of "One God."

Then you have the Greeks. Alexander conquered the Levant and his successor Antiochus followed his policy of "Hellenizing" the locals as much as possible. The Greeks introduced the idea of "universal" metaphysical truths. All of Greek culture was built on certain ideas of universal metaphysical truths but art is one that is easy to conceive: the Greeks sought to embody the ideal human form in marble. And they did. Of course that ideal of beauty is essentially "Aryan" but that's a digression. Anyhow, the Hebes rebelled against Antiochus offering to Zeus on the altar of the Temple and Mattathias called for a rebellion, that is the story of the Maccabees. The king was off squabbling with the Ptolemy in Egypt and while he was gone Judah Maccabee was successful killing the handful of Greeks left to guard the palace or whatever, and there you have the first miracle of "Hannukah" which is not a Christian but a JEW holiday. Still it sets the stage for the apocalyptic period which was "fulfilled" in the coming of Christ.

But the Jews wanted another Maccabee who would set them on the road to world dominion, riches, etc. The usual covetous Jew desires. Christ instead preached a "Gospel" that was based on an essentially Greek metaphysical notion, that there are certain spiritual truths that all "nations" may appreciate. The kikes didnt like that and they schemed to kill him off. So he died and as the story goes, right when the kikes were pulling their beards and counting coup on Jesus, there is an earthquake and the Temple veil was rent and then the Heroic Man rose from the Dead as God (shades of Heracles, Mitra, etc) Then his Jew-followers received a charge from him to "go ye forth and make disciples of all nations" (not destroy all nations and make them one, but share the universal truth with different peoples) and then again received the power to do this at Pentecost with the ability to speak those Gentile tongues. The event of Jews rejecting the Messiah with his charge, ie This "Great Commission" marks a historic transformation, wherein the world-historic role of Jews has ended any positive significance, and due to their historic Crime they are now cursed. Thereafter, the Christians are not Jews as in hebes but something like "new Jews" as in the elect, the light to mankind, etc. Couple that understanding with the fact that Christianity caught principally among Europeans-- and there you have our ancestors confident belief that European Christendom was God's favored people. Though our ancestors did not believe in intermarrying with the racial others, and in fact considered nations and races as part of God's plan (Temple of Babel) they did believe that all people could appreciate the spiritual truths of Christianity which is what is meant by the oft quoted "you are neither Greek nor Jew in Christ." That is a fundamentally GREEK notion because it suggests universal metaphysical truth; which is something that the deconstructionist Franfurt-school type Jews fight against to this very day. The Jews are the Fathers of the Lie and fundamentally reject the idea of objective truth itself.

Anyhow, at the stage of Christ's advent into history, thereafter the Jews are cursed wanderers whose only significance lies in the persistent reminder of Christ's Passion and also that their extinction will mark the Second Coming. (consider that a Jew considers "conversion" as ceasing to be a Jew ie extinction, and then you have a very interesting story indeed. Christians believe that the extinction of Jews marks the "end of history" ie, the beginning of a Thousand Years of glorious peace on Earth. (hence the reference "thousand year Reich).
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Now you guys can poke at that all you like, but that is my rendering of the traditional understanding of Christianity and the role of Jews in history that regards them as special in a good way up until the time of Christ and then special in the most ultimately bad way at the time of Christ and thereafter.

Neither boss is a Jew carpenter" Keystone nor simplistic anti-Christian slogans like "you're a Jew worshipper" really gives credit where credit was due to OUR ANCESTORS WHO CONQUERED THE EARTH UNDER THE SIGN OF THE CROSS. If it was such a defective creed as people say here than surely it would not have carried so far so fast. The situation now is simple. The Jews are evil and they hate Christ and they have slowly but surely Judaized Christianity into a pathetic state. We need to crush the Jews and extirpate their wicked notions from all areas of thought and endeavor. Really, overcoming the Jews is the story of Christianity from day one and that is why, in all frankness, it is far superior as a religion to either Greco-Roman or Germanic heathenism even if you regard it strictly as myth: because it is a mythic system that integrates the physical reality of Jewish wickedness and marks them as the foes over which we must triumph.

[QUOTE=Bleach]Wasn't Hitler's take on Christ similar to that of the CI's and also that of the Talmud: that Christ was in fact an Aryan who apposed the jews,

[COLOR=Blue]Please state your evidence.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]People vainly try to point to the genealogy of Christ to scream Jew; if they knew anything about the OT they would know that there was a lot of Gentile blood in Christ’s veins to.

[COLOR=Blue]Stae your evidence please, not just your opinion.[/COLOR]

I don’t see any reason to think that Christ was not of Aryan descent unless you are just so bound by tradition that you cannot let it go.

[COLOR=Blue]I dont believe that "he" even existed but if he did there is no evidence that he was an Aryan. Prove me wrong![/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Then give an account of your actions to the rest of the pagans and atheists here smarty. Do you have any constructive actions you can point to, to match your big talk? I notice from a few other threads you have a funny way of saying really smartassed stuff and pissing people off. I make you for a teenager who can't have a conversation with people he disagrees with without flaming. Dont expect you're going to keep shit-talking everybody here and not get resistance right back at ya.[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]A teenager? Jesus Christ I havent been a "teenager" for 25 years!
By response I would say, dont expect to keep peddling your Jewish hook nosed religion with an air of scholarly enlightenment and think that you can get away with it, Rabbi.
[/COLOR]

You are a real big talker. I notice you have a way of starting fights with people including a few self-professed atheists. Jarl has suggested people defending Christianity are trolls. Up till now I have taken people seriously as if they really believed the stuff they were saying, but here you are popping up now when you havent been seen much here since you started the pissing match with the big skinhead kid. Now you're calling me a rabbi. I'm not a rabbi but maybe you're a fucking rabbi, on here pouring gas on the fire, making sure that the majority of Whites who are Christians whether you like it or not, are sure to be offended. Hey, good way to deepen your profile you fucking Jew troll, to hop on the anti-Christian bandwagon, than picking fights with skinheads eh? But disruptive all the same.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4781

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]People vainly try to point to the genealogy of Christ to scream Jew; if they knew anything about the OT they would know that there was a lot of Gentile blood in Christ’s veins to.

[COLOR=Blue]Stae your evidence please, not just your opinion.[/COLOR]

I don’t see any reason to think that Christ was not of Aryan descent unless you are just so bound by tradition that you cannot let it go.

[COLOR=Blue]I dont believe that "he" even existed but if he did there is no evidence that he was an Aryan. Prove me wrong![/COLOR][/QUOTE]

What would be the point of stating evidence if you don’t believe he existed in the first place? If you think he never existed then he is whatever I say.

Why do you read every post that has something to do with Christianity? Do you have something to hide are you a closet Christian? Was the big ol priest bad to you when you was a young alter boy? What is your motivation?

[quote=Antiochus Epiphanes]in all frankness, it is far superior as a religion to either Greco-Roman or Germanic heathenism even if you regard it strictly as myth[/quote]


Piffle! The Greek religion is peerless in its refinements. It is true that a universal deist-esque god is more acceptable to our tastes than Zeus 'whose shield is thunder'- lording it over mortal strife; but this is hardly a rigorous interpretation of the Christian god, who, consistent with our disdain for myth and magic, is as laughable a phantom as any Olympian. The bigoted and persistent fable that Greek religion - hell, even Egyptian religion - is 'backward' or 'inelegant' must be attributed solely to the lack of interest in pre-monotheistic 'superstitions' that Islam/Christianity implants in its faithful. Hellenic religion is remarkably sophisticated, aesthetic, and, dare I say it, 'mature' - for want of a better word. And we think ourselves foolish for the thought that people ever did believe in the stuff of epic.

Christianity isn't going away any time soon, for better or for worse. Let's think of how we can work from this.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]You are a real big talker. I notice you have a way of starting fights with people including a few self-professed atheists. Jarl has suggested people defending Christianity are trolls. Up till now I have taken people seriously as if they really believed the stuff they were saying, but here you are popping up now when you havent been seen much here since you started the pissing match with the big skinhead kid. Now you're calling me a rabbi. I'm not a rabbi but maybe you're a fucking rabbi, on here pouring gas on the fire, making sure that the majority of Whites who are Christians whether you like it or not, are sure to be offended. Hey, good way to deepen your profile you fucking Jew troll, to hop on the anti-Christian bandwagon, than picking fights with skinheads eh? But disruptive all the same.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=4781[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]Tell me Antiochus why has your style of post composition changed so radically within the last few months? The name may be the same but you are not the same poster are you?
Tell me also does your choice of profanity square with your mealy mouthed "moms apple pie" wholesome Christian religion? Doesnt the bible have something to say about the use of profanity? Does your Jewish god man not also advocate the "turning of the other cheek" and for others to smite you and for you not to resist? You do fall way short of your "christian" ideals dont you?
Where is your evidence that the "majority of Whites are christians"? This is certainly not reflected in church attendance records. If the majority were christians then why is your country in such an awful mess morally? You cant blame that all on the blacks much as you would like for many of your fellow christians happen to be negroes! Never mind perhaps you can embrace them in your multi racial "heaven"?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Jarl]A&E,

That statment is not correct. Nowhere did I say that defenders of Christianity [color=blue]ARE [/color]trolls.

I stated that there are [color=blue]christian apologists, [/color][color=blue]"yammering Yids" AND [/color][color=blue]Trolls Everywhere ![/color]

[color=#0000ff]Boy, isn't about time that you take a reading comprehension course again?[/color]

[color=#0000ff](you sure seem to be getting "touchy" lately - time to "chill out" LOL)[/color]

[color=#0000ff]:) [/color][/QUOTE]

very jewish, your use of innuendo to slander those with whom you disagree. if you think I'm a kike, say so.

[QUOTE=sean(doc)martin]What would be the point of stating evidence if you don’t believe he existed in the first place? If you think he never existed then he is whatever I say.

[COLOR=Blue]I see so what you are saying is that your hook nosed "saviour" is a figment of your imagination and that you can create and recreate your "god" according to the image that you choose?[/COLOR]

Why do you read every post that has something to do with Christianity? Do you have something to hide are you a closet Christian? Was the big ol priest bad to you when you was a young alter boy? What is your motivation?[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]Why do you assume that I "read every post that has something to do with Christianity"? Where is your evidence for this and if I did in what way is that a threat to you?
Why do you insist on including Christian themes in nearly every post that you make? Are you on a crusade to make us real racialists "turn the other cheek" and "love" your negro brethren?
For the record I was not exposed to your Roman Catholic nonsense as a child or any other form of Christianity. What I do take exception to is so called racialists doing the kikes work by peddling your tired and childish Jewish supersticions on racialist web sites.
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I notice that the "christian" apologists on this site can offer not one shred of evidence external to their Jewish "holy book" in support of the existence of their Jewish "saviour". Why is that? Why do no classical historians mention this man who supposedly had the whole of Palestine in uproar and his life was so filled with miraculous signs and wonders?
The silence of history is profoundly deafening.

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]Tell me Antiochus why has your style of post composition changed so radically within the last few months? The name may be the same but you are not the same poster are you?
Tell me also does your choice of profanity square with your mealy mouthed "moms apple pie" wholesome Christian religion? Doesnt the bible have something to say about the use of profanity? Does your Jewish god man not also advocate the "turning of the other cheek" and for others to smite you and for you not to resist? You do fall way short of your "christian" ideals dont you?
Where is your evidence that the "majority of Whites are christians"? This is certainly not reflected in church attendance records. If the majority were christians then why is your country in such an awful mess morally? You cant blame that all on the blacks much as you would like for many of your fellow christians happen to be negroes! Never mind perhaps you can embrace them in your multi racial "heaven"?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Yep I'm actually a doppelganger sitting where my body used to be. I got my "cheek" turned to you right here and I'm saying kiss my ass motherfucker!LOL

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord]I notice that the "christian" apologists on this site can offer not one shred of evidence external to their Jewish "holy book" in support of the existence of their Jewish "saviour". Why is that? Why do no classical historians mention this man who supposedly had the whole of Palestine in uproar and his life was so filled with miraculous signs and wonders?
The silence of history is profoundly deafening.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I dont worry much about that either. I figger your primary historian of that era, Josephus, did not mention him because Josephus was a Jew and they have a bad way of writing history the way it suits them.

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Yep I'm actually a doppelganger sitting where my body used to be. I got my "cheek" turned to you right here and I'm saying kiss my ass motherfucker!LOL[/QUOTE]


[COLOR=Blue]What holy, saintly and christian language you employ. You have just demonstrated to the entire world that you are neither a christian in word nor deed. You shame the religion that you profess to uphold. You therefore having nothing valid or truthful to say-hypocrite![/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]Yep, I dont worry much about that either. I figger your primary historian of that era, Josephus, did not mention him because Josephus was a Jew and they have a bad way of writing history the way it suits them.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]And Tacitus? Was he a "Jew" also?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Aryan Lord][COLOR=Blue]And Tacitus? Was he a "Jew" also?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

No, but I was under the impression Tacitus did mention Jesus.

"[Nero] inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class...called Christians. ...Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus...." Tactius, Annals, 15.44

There is no question Tacitus regarded Christianity as a pernicious superstition, but the historical existence of Christ appears to not have been in question. Why then did you bring up Tacitus? LOL Just throwing names around?

oh yeah it looks like Josephus actually did mention Jesus. So I was mistaken as apparently were you. Next point?

See "Jewish Antiquities”, by Flavius Josephus. Book 18, Chapter 3, paragraphs 1-5. Paragraph 3 is the Testimonium Flavianum mentioning Christ

[QUOTE=Jarl]I wonder if A&E would consider it "slanderous" to say that:

"There are Monkeys, Giraffes. and Caretakers in the zoo" ? LOL


:o[/QUOTE]

More innuendo. I'm too frank to decipher that little bit of cleverness there Jarl, spell it out for me.

Oh, and excuse me a minute...I can't vaguely recollect that Roman Emperor who crucified a number of jews, quite soon after.Apparently, he decided to give the jews, a bit of their own medicine.

Why did they give their lives up in the Colliseum in Rome ?

The thing that riles me, is that we are all supposed to be white nationalists. But SOME take great glee from denigrating the christian religion. Why ?

We don't , or at least I don't, push this on other white nationalists..

So wtf are you plonkers on about ?

Do you get 'a kick' out of it ?

I know this vain idiot, who says he is a nationalist, who think he is an odinist, he won't even go into a Roman catholic church for a friends funeral. Now what the hell is THAT all about ? :mad: Wtf is an odinist ?

An Odinist is what a christian could be.

I'll have a pint of what whirlwind is drinking :D

[QUOTE=heaven above]Oh, and excuse me a minute...I can't vaguely recollect that Roman Emperor who crucified a number of jews, quite soon after.Apparently, he decided to give the jews, a bit of their own medicine.

Why did they give their lives up in the Colliseum in Rome ?

The thing that riles me, is that we are all supposed to be white nationalists. But SOME take great glee from denigrating the christian religion. Why ?

We don't , or at least I don't, push this on other white nationalists..

So wtf are you plonkers on about ?

Do you get 'a kick' out of it ?

I know this vain idiot, who says he is a nationalist, who think he is an odinist, he won't even go into a Roman catholic church for a friends funeral. Now what the hell is THAT all about ? :mad: Wtf is an odinist ?[/QUOTE]

I am no expert on this. But from what I can make out, Odinists are pagans. Something to do with Asatru, Wotan, and all that. Personaly I consider those I have spoken to as good and dedicated WN's, and my being Athiest, it would not bother me. However, in order to gain WN unity, we must find a way around religious borders. At the end of the day, it is the niggers Jews Muslims and faggots who are our enemies. Not our white brethren!

[QUOTE=heaven above]I'll have a pint of what whirlwind is drinking :D[/QUOTE]

Its your round brother. And mines a large JD, straight with no ice! ;)

Hey JARL,

I know we have a 'common thing' ;)

That is the promotion of the white race.

I know what your saying, but some do have a kink, and the example I used was an high BNP official. I sometimes get perplexed.There are a few in the upper echelons of the BNP who are so called Odinists, and moreso anti-christian. This is wrong. I am sure you agree.

The fourteen words of David Lane are the key. I say that some christians , especially if they have read the bible, will come to that same conclusion. I do not denigrate any other 'white comrades', from whither they arrive.

[QUOTE=Jarl]HAbove,

Just reporting the "NEWS".

I certainly want nothing but THE BEST for the white race!...:) [/QUOTE]
I never really did get ticked but I understand now what you are doing, and the things you report anger me more or at least than they do you.

[QUOTE=BrightonWNP]I am no expert on this. But from what I can make out, Odinists are pagans. Something to do with Asatru, Wotan, and all that. Personaly I consider those I have spoken to as good and dedicated WN's, and my being Athiest, it would not bother me. However, in order to gain WN unity, we must find a way around religious borders. At the end of the day, it is the niggers Jews Muslims and faggots who are our enemies. Not our white brethren![/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]I would like to believe that but sadly it is not true. A white Christian is just as much our enemy as a white Moslem, homosexual or communist. They have a completely different Weltanschauung and they knowingly worship a Jewish god. Their religion has singlehandedly been responsible for the decay and near biological destruction of the Aryan race.[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Antiochus Epiphanes]No, but I was under the impression Tacitus did mention Jesus.

"[Nero] inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class...called Christians. ...Christus [Christ], from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus...." Tactius, Annals, 15.44

There is no question Tacitus regarded Christianity as a pernicious superstition, but the historical existence of Christ appears to not have been in question. Why then did you bring up Tacitus? LOL Just throwing names around?[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Blue]Nobody denies the existence of the Jewish cult of "christians" but where in Tacitus writings does he refer to the birth, life and death of "Jesus of Nazareth"? In fact your bible makes reference to a town that did not exist at that time-ie Nazareth. How do you explain that?[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Jarl]heaven above,

I think perhaps you will find WN Folks don't have too much problem with Good Christians ™. The problem seems to be with the Hundreds of Millions (230 +/- ! ) here in the US particularly that are what some call "Judeo-Christians ™.

They are driving the US policy of race mixing, immigration and Jew Worship. If you really want to know see links posted below.

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So Jarl what do you consider a good Christian? Ol Doc Martin perhaps? I understand the problems with all those that are set against the white race though and it is a problem on any level.

Seriously though as A Christian I don't understand the motivation or reason to destroy the white race by many religious organizations (yes there are many pagan ones to).

When that so-called female priest defended that "lost boy" after he molested 11 or so girls with cigarettes, man that struck a nerve with me like you wouldn't believe.

Hitler was a Catholic Pagan, (not such a contadiction). Carl Jung writes some exellent stuff on how the Catholic church incoporated Pagan ritual and pagan archetypes, the trinity,Goddess worship in the form of Mary, etc.Easter Ritual of re-birth (the egg symbol etc).
Hitler wanted to further move the church towards Paganism and nature worship. Hitler used the church for both political and social reasons. He was a pragmatist.

My first post to reach over a thousand views and one hundred posts. :)

Most of the thanks goes to Jarl even though Aryan and Vlad pitched in. Great work keep it up.

[QUOTE=Keystone]Catholic Pagan? That's beyond anybody, even Hitler.

Cease the new age babble.


Keystone[/QUOTE]

Hitler was born a Catholic, he realised the Catholic chuches primary aim was its own self service. He sought to bring back Pagan elements back into the church, Christian/pan pagan parades, Christmas being combined with nature worship. Who is new age ? Jung was much respected by the Nazis, unlike Fraud get you facts right.

I believe that Hitler didn’t banish useful people from the movement or deny them power simply because of their religious beliefs. Hitler was more concerned where people stood on the basis of race rather than their faith. No doubt he had Christians and pagans in high offices. His only focus was getting the job done and that should be our sole focus.

There are a lot of people that want to cop out and when they cannot blame the Jews for our sad state they turn to blame Christians, when it all boils down the simple truth is because Whites allowed their country to degenerate into the state it is in now, Jews would have never had the influence if it wasn’t for Greedy whites that was willing to sell out their race for a few sheckles more.

We should be past the whining stage and we already know who the enemy is now. I don’t think there are any posters that would deny that a lot of our problems stemmed from Jews.

The only thing left to do is to devise a plan to get the power back, before they pass enough net laws to close this site down.