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Leuchter then brought the samples back to Boston, where he presented them to Alpha Analytical Laboratories, a chemical laboratory, for testing. Leuchter told Alpha only that the samples were to be used as evidence in a court case about an industrial accident. The lab tested them for exposure to cyanide and found trace amounts in the alleged crematoria, which Leuchter dismissed in his report.

Leuchter did not examine the walls of the gas chambers until fifty years after they had been used; his critics note that it would have been virtually impossible to discover any cyanide at all using his method. In fact, tests conducted on ventilation grates immediately after the end of the war showed substantial amounts of cyanide. The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed. Leuchter was unaware that part of the camp and chambers were reconstructed, so he had no way of knowing if the bricks he was scraping were actually part of the original gas chamber.



Leuchter also asserted that the necessary ventilation systems and other pieces simply would not fit. Documents from the period show that the gas chambers in fact had powerful ventilators capable of clearing the gas chambers in minutes. When challenged in court, Leuchter said he was unaware of those documents.



Many of Leuchter's conclusions are based on the assumption that it takes 20 to 30 hours to air a room disinfected with Zyklon-B; since far lower concentrations are required when gassing people it actually takes 20 to 30 minutes to air out the room and the forced ventilation systems used are more than adequate to allow the gas chambers to be operated without endangering the executioners. When questioned in court, Leuchter admitted he had not seen a document by the Waffen SS Commandant for construction issued when the gas chambers were constructed which estimated they had a 24 hour capacity of 4756 people, more than 30 times Leuchter's estimate of 156.


Leuchter also testified that it was impossible to kill six million people at Auschwitz (six million is the estimate commonly given for all Jews killed during the Holocaust, not the estimated number of those gassed at Auschwitz).



Leuchter arrives at his figures assuming that the people could occupy the gas chambers at a density of maximum 1 person per 9 square feet (a density of 1.2/m²) and that it would take a week to ventilate the gas chambers before they could be used for another mass execution. These assumptions are absurd.


Leuchter also fails to explain his belief that Zyklon-B was used for delousing, in view of his belief that the product would present technical difficulties in ventilating and decontaminating such as to make it impractical for use in a gas chamber.


Protests were organized outside the court house in Canada, and near Leuchter's home in Malden, Massachusetts. However, despite the bad publicity Leuchter remained active until 1990, when his lack of qualifications to practice was exposed.


In October 1990, the state of Massachusetts brought criminal charges against Leuchter for representing himself as an engineer without a license


Critics have argued that Leuchter not only lacks an engineering license but hasn't an engineering degree or other professional certification or recognised credential — his only education consists of a BA in history, which he completed in 1964. He admits to having no formal training in toxicology, biology or chemistry.[1] Additionally, while Leuchter had some experience with electric chairs and lethal injection systems it was discovered that his claims of expertise in the area of gas chambers was a fabrication and he had no experience with them.


A number of U.S. states Leuchter claims to have acted as a consultant for have denied such a relationship ever existed.



Repetition of Leuchter's examination
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In February of 1990, Professor Jan Markiewicz, Director of the Forensic Institute of Cracow, redid the analysis.[1][2] Markiewicz decided that the Prussian blue test was unreliable because it depended on the acidity of the environment, which was low in the gas chambers. Markiewicz and his team used microdiffusion techniques to test for cyanide in samples from the gas chambers, from delousing chambers, and from living areas elsewhere within Auschwitz. The living quarter samples (negative controls) tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in both the delousing chambers and the gas chambers. The amount of cyanide found had a great variability (possibly due to 50 years of exposure to the elements to varying degrees[3]), but even so, the categorical results were that cyanide was found where expected in both the gas chambers and the delousing facilities, and not found in the living quarters, supporting the hypothesis that the gas chambers were exposed to high levels of cyanide like the delousing facilities, and not low levels for routine fumigation, like the living quarters.

Germar Rudolf has covered this, his credentials are impeccable so much so that he is now in prison.......

http://germarrudolf.com/work/trr/index.html#toc

2.1. Fred Leuchter on Auschwitz and Majdanek
2.2. Damage Control, p. 26

Read all of it.......There is a lot of big words in it Peter and I'm sure your attention span has been honed to about 15 seconds by MTV, but do try...You have to understand the power of the Jewish machine it owns everything Peter even you...If you go against the machine you are finished.

If the holocaust did happen, we should take notes and celebrate it instead of going into a moral sewer of pity and guilt about it. Maybe one day we'll need to figure out how to be as mind bogglingly efficient as the Germans are alleged to be :rolleyes:.

I don't actually believe it happened, but it hardly changes our ideological foundation to acknowledge it did or might have if meaningful evidence for their claim actually came out.

Jews use emotionalism as a tool to gain sympathy for their benefit - the Jew certainly has caused far worse in easily verified atrocities, so why should we waste any emotional energy feeling sorry for what happens to them?

The jews murdered 11 million Ukrainians in the 1930's, with the full backing of jews in America and England. Whether or not the Holocaust is exaggerated, which I suspect it is, is basically irrelevant to me.

Nothing could convince me to adopt the Holocaustianity religion. It's a big excuse to murder Palestinians, nowadays. The jews have committed genocide after genocide, and they use their control of the media and of the ed-jew-cational system to cover up their genocides. Therefore jews are the biggest Holocaust deniers ever.

Fuck off and die Peter Roberts.

....low levels for routine fumigation, like the living quarters.

Your assertions are nothing new here. Why don't you figure how 6 million jews were holocausted; in a relatively short period of time, during a massive world war; wherein Germany had other, more important matters to address troops to and then provide us your dissert; along with proof - ie, links and MLA type footnoting that makes sense.

If you can provide evidence and verification of one gassed, holocausted jew; one that would stand up in a criminal court of law by even today's standards..now that'd be a first.

Your assertions are nothing new here. Why don't you figure how 6 million jews were holocausted; in a relatively short period of time, during a massive world war; wherein Germany had other, more important matters to address troops to and then provide us your dissert; along with proof - ie, links and MLA type footnoting that makes sense.

If you can provide evidence and verification of one gassed, holocausted jew; one that would stand up in a criminal court of law by even today's standards..now that'd be a first.

No new arguments hufh? Since you've seen testimony from witnesses and confessions from perpetrators - I've demonstrated a body is not required - your demands are just spam at this point.

If it happened, it's something they deserved. If it didn't happen, which is unfortunately the case, it's a pity they haven't been punished accordingly.

Your assertions are nothing new here. Why don't you figure how 6 million jews were holocausted; in a relatively short period of time, during a massive world war; wherein Germany had other, more important matters to address troops to and then provide us your dissert; along with proof - ie, links and MLA type footnoting that makes sense.

If you can provide evidence and verification of one gassed, holocausted jew; one that would stand up in a criminal court of law by even today's standards..now that'd be a first.



Have you not seen the various photos of the holocaust? And you find it hard to believe that jews were gassed?

http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/#PHoH

23 year old girl who thinks she knows it all. No doubt brainwashed like Prussian Blue were by that whore called April Gaede. She sure gaede up her daughters. :p

Armchair POS nazi. Fuck right off, Cuntess.

Have you not seen the various photos of the holocaust?
Not proof especially when they show screen grabs from Soviet Propaganda movies as proof. Here's an easy question: How do you know they didn't die of disease? It's rather common in war.

23 year old girl who thinks she knows it all. No doubt brainwashed like Prussian Blue were by that whore called April Gaede. She sure gaede up her daughters.

Armchair POS nazi. Fuck right off, Cuntess.
Id say this is appalling but it only shows your true color, you are what you blame us of being- a beast.

Have you not seen the various photos of the holocaust? And you find it hard to believe that jews were gassed?

http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/#PHoH


:rofl
You really are a fucking freak!


The case of: The Cottingley Fairies

".....blah blah blah .... dumb fucks believe anything..... The two young girls, Frances Griffiths and Elsie Wright, initially took two photographs in 1917 to prove to their parents that they really had been playing with fairies outside in the garden, as they had claimed. The photographs showed the girls posing while delicate, winged creatures danced around them. A local photographic expert was shown the photos, who proclaimed them to be genuine, unretouched images. And once they had received this official stamp of approval, the fairy images soon began circulating through upper class British society.

Blah ....blah .....blah.....any kind of story can be sold to dumb fucks.

It was not until 1978 that a researcher noticed that the fairies in the pictures were almost identical to fairy figures in a children's book called Princess Mary's Gift Book, which had been published in 1915 shortly before the girls took the photographs.

Many years later, in 1981, the two cousins confessed that the fairies in four of the pictures were, in fact, paper cutouts from this book.

Blah.....blah .....blah.....there is one dumb fuck born every minute."

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/photos/cottingley.html

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Jews feign levity and ooze hatred.


Protests were organized outside the court house in Canada, and near Leuchter's home in Malden, Massachusetts. However, despite the bad publicity Leuchter remained active until 1990, when his lack of qualifications to practice was exposed.


In October 1990, the state of Massachusetts brought criminal charges against Leuchter for representing himself as an engineer without a license


Critics have argued that Leuchter not only lacks an engineering license but hasn't an engineering degree or other professional certification or recognised credential — his only education consists of a BA in history, which he completed in 1964. He admits to having no formal training in toxicology, biology or chemistry.[1] Additionally, while Leuchter had some experience with electric chairs and lethal injection systems it was discovered that his claims of expertise in the area of gas chambers was a fabrication and he had no experience with them.


A number of U.S. states Leuchter claims to have acted as a consultant for have denied such a relationship ever existed.

Jews gang up on Leuchter for hurting them, they use their considerable political clout and media control to discredit him. T.J.B.



Repetition of Leuchter's examination
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In February of 1990, Professor Jan Markiewicz, Director of the Forensic Institute of Cracow, redid the analysis.[1][2] Markiewicz decided that the Prussian blue test was unreliable because it depended on the acidity of the environment, which was low in the gas chambers. Markiewicz and his team used microdiffusion techniques to test for cyanide in samples from the gas chambers, from delousing chambers, and from living areas elsewhere within Auschwitz. The living quarter samples (negative controls) tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in both the delousing chambers and the gas chambers. The amount of cyanide found had a great variability (possibly due to 50 years of exposure to the elements to varying degrees[3]), but even so, the categorical results were that cyanide was found where expected in both the gas chambers and the delousing facilities, and not found in the living quarters, supporting the hypothesis that the gas chambers were exposed to high levels of cyanide like the delousing facilities, and not low levels for routine fumigation, like the living quarters.

Jews arrange for one of their boys to get the right results.

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Now this is what I call a detailed and rigorous refutation; the entire Leuchter report demolished in just a few scant paragraphs.

Leuchter then brought the samples back to Boston, where he presented them to Alpha Analytical Laboratories, a chemical laboratory, for testing. Leuchter told Alpha only that the samples were to be used as evidence in a court case about an industrial accident. The lab tested them for exposure to cyanide and found trace amounts in the alleged crematoria, which Leuchter dismissed in his report.

Leuchter did not examine the walls of the gas chambers until fifty years after they had been used; his critics note that it would have been virtually impossible to discover any cyanide at all using his method. In fact, tests conducted on ventilation grates immediately after the end of the war showed substantial amounts of cyanide. The chambers were demolished by the Nazis when they abandoned Auschwitz, and the facilities Leuchter examined were, in fact, partially reconstructed. Leuchter was unaware that part of the camp and chambers were reconstructed, so he had no way of knowing if the bricks he was scraping were actually part of the original gas chamber.

Leuchter arrives at his figures assuming that the people could occupy the gas chambers at a density of maximum 1 person per 9 square feet (a density of 1.2/m²) and that it would take a week to ventilate the gas chambers before they could be used for another mass execution. These assumptions are absurd.

A number of U.S. states Leuchter claims to have acted as a consultant for have denied such a relationship ever existed.



Repetition of Leuchter's examination
-----------------------------------
In February of 1990, Professor Jan Markiewicz, Director of the Forensic Institute of Cracow, redid the analysis.[1][2] Markiewicz decided that the Prussian blue test was unreliable because it depended on the acidity of the environment, which was low in the gas chambers. Markiewicz and his team used microdiffusion techniques to test for cyanide in samples from the gas chambers, from delousing chambers, and from living areas elsewhere within Auschwitz. The living quarter samples (negative controls) tested negative, while cyanide residue was found in both the delousing chambers and the gas chambers. The amount of cyanide found had a great variability (possibly due to 50 years of exposure to the elements to varying degrees[3]), but even so, the categorical results were that cyanide was found where expected in both the gas chambers and the delousing facilities, and not found in the living quarters, supporting the hypothesis that the gas chambers were exposed to high levels of cyanide like the delousing facilities, and not low levels for routine fumigation, like the living quarters.

Krakow Forensic Institute Confirms Leuchter's Findings

A recent investigation by a Polish government agency has authoritatively corroborated the findings of Fred Leuchter from his detailed 1988 on-site forensic examination of supposed German wartime extermination gas chambers. The American execution expert concluded that the "gas chambers" in the former concentration camps of Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek were never used to kill people. (On Leuchter's findings and the resulting international controversy, see his detailed Report, which is available from the IHR, as well as The Journal of Historical Review, Summer 1989 and Winter 1990-91, and the IHR Newsletter, October 1990 and January 1991.)

Concerned at the impact of Leuchter's widely-circulated Report, the Auschwitz State Museum, a Polish government agency, commissioned the Institute of Forensic Research (Instytut Ekspertyz Sadowych) of Krakow to carry out its own investigation. The result: In a carefully worded six-page internal forensic report, the Institute's experts essentially replicated Leuchter's findings and implicitly corroborated his conclusions.

Consistent with Leuchter's investigation, the Institute's specialists detected absolutely no traces of cyanide (or ferro-ferri-cyanide compound) in most of the plaster and brick samples taken from the alleged extermination gas chambers. Traces of cyanides were detected in eight samples, seven of which were rooms in Block 3 of Auschwitz main camp where -as the Institute's experts acknowledge - inmate clothing was disinfected by "gassing" with Zyklon.

A barely detectable trace of cyanide compound was found in the eighth remaining "positive" sample, which was sample No. 15 from the alleged homicidal "gas chamber" in Krema building II in Birkenau. Significantly, this is the only sample taken from any of the supposed extermination gas chambers that showed any trace of cyanide. The presence of an almost indetectable trace in this sample is entirely in keeping with Leuchter's conclusion that the room from which it was taken must have been deloused with Zyklon at one time or another.

In an apparent attempt at "damage control," the authors of the Institute's report sought to play down or negate the significance of their own findings by asserting that any cyanide traces would have disappeared long ago under the impact of the weather and the elements. This assertion is simply not true, as Leuchter and other specialists have pointed out:
Precisely speaking, it is not hydrogen cyanide itself that leaves a trace, but rather the compounds that result from the interaction of hydrogen cyanide with iron and other heavy metal ions. The resulting ferro-ferri-cyanide compounds are very stable as James Roth, chief chemist of Alpha Analytical Labs in Massachusetts, testified in the 1988 "Holocaust" trial of Ernst Zündel. Even after 45 years, the compounds would not have "weathered away."
It is not true that all of the alleged gas chambers were exposed to the elements, as the Institute's experts contend. Specifically, the entire crematory facility (Krema) I in the Auschwitz main camp, including the alleged homicidal "gas chamber" there, has been completely intact since the camp was liberated by Soviet forces in January 1945. The authors of the Krakow Institute report make no effort to explain the absence of cyanide traces in this "gas chamber." Similarly, the alleged extermination gas chamber of crematory facility (Krema) II in Birkenau is protected by the collapsed concrete ceiling, and is otherwise in its original condition.

It is worth noting that the Krakow Institute's report did not respond at all to other compelling reasons given by Leuchter for doubting the orthodox extermination story. As he points out, for example, the alleged homicidal gas chambers he examined were not properly sealed or vented for use as killing facilities.

Auschwitz State Museum officials initiated this investigation rather obviously hoping that the Institute's report would discredit Leuchter's findings and corroborate the orthodox extermination account. And just as obviously, if the Institute's report had, in fact, discredited the American engineer's conclusions, the Auschwitz State Museum and Holocaust organizations around the world would certainly have wasted no time in giving it maximum publicity.

Although neither the Auschwitz State Museum nor the Krakow Institute has (so far) made this September 1990 report public, Revisionists were nevertheless able to obtain a copy of the original document. Professor Robert Faurisson in France and Fred Leuchter in the United States were quick to cite this "Polish Leuchter Report" as corroboration of the Revisionist view of the Auschwitz extermination story. (See the IHR Newsletter, April 1991.)

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_Staff.html

Reaction of the Jan Sehn Institute

The reaction of the Krakow Institute which had carried out the faulty 1945 investigation -- by 1988 named after the Communist judge who presided during the Polish Auschwitz and Rudolf Höss trials -- to the Leuchter Report has caused much confusion in revisionist circles. To this day, many believe that in 1990 four investigators from this institute corroborated the Leuchter Report,[see note] but this is quite incorrect. Clearing up the misunderstanding requires that the post-Leuchter findings of the Krakow Institute be treated in some detail.
A Short Chemical Introduction

To expose the errors of the Krakow investigators requires presenting a little basic chemistry -- so basic that equations have been omitted. First of all, until 1979, Zyklon B was the German trademark for a pesticide based on hydrogen cyanide (HCN). As every student of chemistry knows, hydrogen cyanide forms salts, often simply referred to as cyanides. Like hydrogen cyanide itself, these salts are usually highly poisonous. There is one group of cyanides, however, which are not poisonous at all. The best known representatives of this group are the iron cyanides, especially so-called Prussian blue, a pigment discovered in Prussia a few centuries ago. Every college student of chemistry knows Prussian blue, for one of the more important things a chemist must learn is how to dispose of poisonous cyanide salts without endangering life (including one's own). One simply makes Prussian blue out of it by adding certain iron compounds. Then it can be poured down the sink in good conscience, for Prussian blue is extremely stable and releases no cyanide into the environment.

Understanding the controversy surrounding the Leuchter Report is much easier if one keeps in mind that when hydrogen cyanide and certain iron compounds come together, they form Prussian blue. That is exactly the phenomenon that one can observe when entering the Zyklon B delousing facilities that were used across Europe during the Third Reich. A few of them, for example in the Auschwitz, Birkenau, Majdanek, and Stutthof concentration camps, are still intact today. All these facilities have one thing in common: their walls are permeated with Prussian blue. Not just the inner surfaces, but the mortar between the bricks, and even the outside walls of these delousing chambers abound in iron cyanides, exhibiting a patchy blue coloration. Nothing of the sort can be observed in the alleged homicidal "gas chambers" of Auschwitz and Birkenau.[see note]

The iron compounds needed to form Prussian blue are an integral part of all building materials: bricks, sand, and cement always contain a certain amount of rust (iron oxide, usually between 1 and 4 percent). That is what gives bricks their red, or ocher, color and what makes most sands ocher, too.

Now, let's examine the way in which the investigators from the Jan Sehn Institute approached the problem of analyzing and interpreting samples from Auschwitz.
A Lack of Understanding

The team from the forensic institute, Jan Markiewicz, Wojciech Gubala, and Jerzy Labedz, claims not to have understood how it was possible for Prussian blue to have formed in walls as a result of their being exposed to hydrogen cyanide gas: "It is difficult to imagine the chemical reactions and physicochemical processes that could have led to the formation of Prussian blue in that place."[see note]

There is no shame in not understanding. Actually, this is the beginning of every science: the cognition of not understanding. In pre-scientific ages, humans tended to find mystical or religious answers to unsolved questions; modern scientists approach problems they don't understand, and sometimes can scarcely imagine, as challenges to investigate, in order to understand. This quest for knowledge is the chief driving force of modern humanity. Should we not expect, then, that the Krakow researchers would next have attempted to learn whether Prussian blue can be formed in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide and, if so, how?
More Lack of Understanding

In 1991 Dr. Markiewicz wrote, via a mutual acquaintance, that he was unable to understand how Prussian blue could possibly form in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide. He thought that quite unlikely, and suggested that its presence might stem from a different source, for example from Prussian blue wall paint used to give the interior walls of the delousing chambers a fanciful, patchy blue coloration. (What for?, one is tempted to ask.[see note]) I suggested that he look at the outer surfaces of the walls, which are exposed to environmental influences, and which were partly patchy blue as well. Their color cannot be explained by paint, but only by cyanide compounds spreading to the outside walls over the years, and being converted to Prussian blue. He replied that these blue patches were hard to explain, and first it had to be established that they were indeed Prussian blue.[see note] So there were even more questions to be answered before these scientists could conduct their analysis.
Disregard of Key Questions

At length, the Polish investigators published an article on their findings, in 1994.[see note] Surprisingly, perusing their article reveals that they did nothing to establish whether or not Prussian blue can form in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide. Nothing indicates that they did basic research on the behavior of cyanide compounds under conditions similar to those in brickwork. Nor did they do anything to establish whether or not the blue patches on the external walls of the delousing chambers were caused by Prussian blue. Should you wonder why, just be patient: it gets even worse.
Ignoring Peer Opinions

Had the researchers found a scientific source which stated in a reliable way that Prussian blue cannot develop in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide, that would have made things easy for them, by rendering any new research obsolete. On the other hand, if they had discovered literature claiming in a scientific way that the formation of Prussian blue in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide was possible, the scientific method would have compelled them to do either of two things: to abandon their position that Prussian blue cannot form thus, or to refute the opposing position by proving that it cannot form. That is what the scientific process is all about: verification or refutation of theses postulated by peers. Ignoring peer opinions is a strong indicator of unscientific behavior.

In fact, the Krakow researchers quoted one book that deals intensively with the question of Prussian blue formation.[see note] On consulting it, however, one quickly realizes that it proves the exact opposite of Markiewicz's thesis. The work demonstrates in detail how, and under which circumstances, walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide can indeed form Prussian blue, and that this was not only possible but very likely, at least in the Auschwitz delousing chambers.

Do the Krakow researchers claim that this book shows the opposite? Not at all. In fact, they cite it not to refer the reader to its chemical arguments, but, instead, merely as an example of scientific studies these authors from the Jan Sehn Institute intend to combat with their report. All arguments advanced in the book are simply ignored, while the work is stigmatized as an example of "undesirable science." Let it be recalled that Dr. Markiewicz is a professor, meaning: he professes to adhere to the ideals of science and the scientific method!
Excluding the Unwanted

The authors of the Krakow study ignored all arguments proving them wrong, although they were certainly aware of them, as they quoted them. They made no attempt to prove or to disprove their own claims. They did nothing to understand what they claimed not to have understood.

Was there a reason for their strange conduct?

The answer is very simple: The researchers wanted to exclude Prussian blue and similar iron cyanide compounds from their analyses. Excluding these compounds can only be justified on the assumption that Prussian blue in the walls of the delousing chambers must have a different origin, e.g. from paint. As the Krakow investigators wrote in their 1994 article:

We decided therefore to determine the cyanide ions using a method that does not induce the breakdown of the composed ferrum cyanide complex (this is the blue under discussion) [.]

What does this mean?

In fact, the exclusion of Prussian blue from analytical detection must result in much lower cyanide traces for the delousing chambers, as non-iron cyanide compounds are not very stable and would therefore hardly be present after fifty years. The same is true for every room ever exposed to hydrogen cyanide. In fact, values close to the detection level must be expected. These are generally so unreliable that a proper interpretation is close to impossible. It can therefore be expected that the analysis of samples tested with such a method would deliver similar results for nearly every sampling of material that is many years old. Such an analysis would make it practically impossible to distinguish between rooms massively exposed to hydrogen cyanide and those which were not: all would have a cyanide residue of close to zero.

Comparison of the order of magnitude of analyses results of different samples
Author:
Markiewicz et al.[see note]
Leuchter[see note]
Rudolf[see note]

Detection of:
cyanide without iron cyanides
total cyanide
total cyanide

Delousing chambers:
0-0.8 mg/kg
1,025 mg/kg
1,000-13,000 mg/kg

Alleged gas chamber:
0-0.6 mg/kg
0-8 mg/kg
0-7 mg/kg


I believe that is exactly what the researchers from the Jan Sehn Institute wanted to achieve: values for both the delousing chambers and the alleged homicidal "gas chambers" with similar levels of cyanide residues. This would allow them to state: "The same amount of cyanides, hence the same amount of gassing activity: thus, humans were gassed in the crematoria cellars. Thus, Leuchter is refuted."

The analyses results of the Krakow report showed just that, and its authors drew the requisite conclusions.

If we examine the analyses results of samples taken by different people, and obtained with different methods of analysis, it is evident that Markiewicz and his co-workers fudged their results by adjusting their method to deliver what they wanted.

If that doesn't smell like scientific fraud, well ... we aren't through with the Krakow report yet.
Suppressing Unwanted Results

In 1991, a document leaked out of the Jan Sehn Institute in Krakow into the hands of the revisionists, and was eventually published in their periodicals.[see note] It showed that Dr. Markiewicz and his co-workers had prepared a first report as early as 1990. This report was never published. Its results were discomfiting: although the researchers were already employing their deceptive analytical method, only one of the five samples taken from alleged homicidal gas chambers resulted in an extremely small amount of cyanide (0.024 mg/kg); the rest had no detectable cyanide. On the other hand, samples taken from a delousing chamber showed values up to 20 times higher (0.036-0.588 mg/kg). These results seemed to confirm Leuchter's findings. Hence, in their 1994 paper, the Krakow investigators suppressed any information about their initial results. Normally, researchers guilty of such unethical conduct are expelled from the scientific community.

Today, most revisionists are aware of the findings revealed in 1991, but not of the later ones published in 1994 that seem to refute Leuchter.
Krakow Guidelines: Not Scientific Truth, but a Political Agenda

In a subsequent correspondence with the Krakow researchers, I asked for a scientific explanation of their method of analysis. I gave them irrefutable proof that Prussian blue can be formed in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide gas, citing a recent case documented in expert literature.[see note] The authors of the Krakow report were unable to give a scientific reason for their deliberate failure to test for Prussian blue and refused to admit that they had made a mistake.[see note]

Finally, in their article as well as in a letter to me, the Krakow researchers stated that the purpose of their paper was to refute the "Holocaust deniers" and to prevent the whitewashing of Hitler and National Socialism. In other words, their purpose was not the search for truth, but to serve a political end.
Conclusions

To summarize the extremely unscientific and politically biased approach of Markiewicz and his co-workers:
The most important task of a scientist is to try to understand what hasn't been understood. The investigators from the Jan Sehn Institute for Forensic Research in Krakow did just the opposite: they chose to ignore and to exclude what they didn't understand (the formation of Prussian blue in walls exposed to hydrogen cyanide).
The next important task of a scientist is to discuss other scientists' attempts to understand something. The Krakow team did just the opposite: they chose to ignore and to exclude from discussion all that might let them (and others) understand how Prussian blue can be formed.
These choices allowed them to employ methods that would produce the results desired.
They suppressed whichever results didn't fit their purposes.
Finally, they admitted that the purpose of their research was not to seek truth, but to contribute to the continued disrepute of the long defunct Adolf Hitler.

Therefore, I publicly called, and continue to call, these researchers scientific frauds. There is only one place for their research findings: the garbage. Neither Markiewicz nor his co-workers have ever responded to my accusations. Dr. Markiewicz, who was an expert in technical testing, not a chemist, died in 1997; the remaining two authors have continued to remain silent.
A German Corroboration of Leuchter

In early 1990, a few months after beginning work on my Ph.D. at the Max Planck Institute for Solid State Research in Stuttgart, Germany, I started investigations to verify the chemical claims made in the Leuchter Report: namely, that long-term stable cyanide compounds were still to be expected in the alleged homicidal gas chambers, if the mass gassings with Zyklon B took place in them as claimed by witnesses. Initially I was interested only in finding out whether the resulting compound -- iron blue or Prussian blue -- is stable enough to survive forty-five years of exposure to harsh environmental conditions. After this was confirmed, I mailed the results to some twenty people I thought might be interested in these results. Subsequently I got in contact with several engineers and lawyers, the former willing to help me in doing forensic research, and the latter primarily interested in using the results for their clients. I made two trips to Auschwitz and did eighteen months of further research until, in January 1992, the first, 72-page long version of the so-called Rudolf Report was distributed to opinion leaders in Germany. Briefly summarized, it corroborates Leuchter's claim that, for several technical and chemical reasons, the mass gassing attested to by witnesses could not have occurred. My report was subsequently updated and enhanced, and finally published in July 1993 as a 120-page paperback booklet.[see note] Dutch and French versions appeared in 1995 and 1996, but an English version has never been printed. (A short 16-page summary published in summer 1993 is often mistakenly assumed to be a full version of my report.) An updated and enhanced version is currently in preparation; publication is planned for later this year.[see note]

Because I can't be the judge of my own work, I will not discuss my own research here. Scientific discussion of my report began with a German book, consisting mainly of unfounded attacks, in 1995.[see note] The first serious critique to date, unfortunately riddled with ad hominem attacks, has appeared only on the Internet.[see note] Its author, Richard Green, is, like me, a chemist with a Ph.D. thesis in physical chemistry. He has made some far-reaching concessions in his critique:
In order to kill humans as quickly as attested to by the witnesses, hydrogen cyanide in concentrations similar to those used for delousing procedures is required. Leuchter was frequently attacked by his opponents on the basis that much less poison would have been required to kill humans than to kill lice. Although this is generally true, it does not apply to a scenario in which many hundreds of humans are supposed to have died from this poison within a few minutes.
Iron blue (Prussian blue) can indeed be the result of exposing walls to hydrogen cyanide, and, when found in the delousing facilities in Auschwitz and elsewhere, HCN is most likely the cause.

The latter concession obviously destroys the reputation of the Krakow researchers (and their supporters), who summarily declared that the vast amount of iron blue in the walls of delousing facilities must have a different origin, which in turn "allowed" them to exclude it from analysis. Green, however, is undisturbed by this, and still claims that their results ought to be taken as standard by everybody. To my question of why the Krakow investigators had not responded to my inquiries as to their obviously unscientific behavior, Green responded as follows:

Rudolf complains that Markiewicz et al. have not responded to his queries. Why should they do so? What credibility does Rudolf have, that demands they answer his every objection no matter how ill-founded?

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n2p-3_Rudolf.html

"Debunk" this, oh great scholar that you are.

The Rudolf Report (http://vho.org/dl/ENG/trr.pdf)


Leuchter also asserted that the necessary ventilation systems and other pieces simply would not fit. Documents from the period show that the gas chambers in fact had powerful ventilators capable of clearing the gas chambers in minutes. .

Many of Leuchter's conclusions are based on the assumption that it takes 20 to 30 hours to air a room disinfected with Zyklon-B; since far lower concentrations are required when gassing people it actually takes 20 to 30 minutes to air out the room and the forced ventilation systems used are more than adequate to allow the gas chambers to be operated without endangering the executioners. When questioned in court, Leuchter admitted he had not seen a document by the Waffen SS Commandant for construction issued when the gas chambers were constructed which estimated they had a 24 hour capacity of 4756 people, more than 30 times Leuchter's estimate of 156.


On May 4, 1992, court expert Jagschitz discussed the “considerably large ventilators” (“I found
that clearly in Moscow”, page 19 of court transcript; “these enormous ventilators that vent air out of
the mortuaries”, “rather there were considerably large ventilators at least in crematoria II and III”,
page 34 of court transcript).
These ventilators had engines of 3.5 hp. Given a necessary vacuum capacity of 6 inches watercolumn
and considering the length of the conduit cross-sections, conduit course (numerous rightangle
diversions), interior surfaces of the conduit (undressed brick, wood) and the nature of the vent
openings (coarsely punched metal), this suffices for a maximum of ten exchanges of air in the ‘gas
chamber’ per hour.
Considering the ventilation time of 30 minutes, this means that the concentration of hydrogen
cyanide may then have dropped to a minimum of approximately 1/100 of the initial concentration.
But since the method of alleged introduction of the Zyklon B from above means that the evaporation
of hydrogen cyanide cannot be simply ‘shut off’, as it were (that works only in the American
gas chambers using hydrogen cyanide generators), the evaporation would continue and at a greater
rate than before, since the less than atmospheric pressure created in ventilation (lowering of the
boiling-point) promotes evaporation. This means that until almost right before the end of the evaporation
process – which can take from a few to many hours, depending on the ambient temperature
and humidity – the ventilators with their capacity of only 3.5 hp would have had to perform a Sisyphean
task without succeeding in lowering the concentration below the lethal level.
The question how the ventilators really worked, given a chamber crowded to bursting with dead
bodies and given the air intake and exhaust configuration, is a matter that still needs to be settled by
ventilation experts, for the used air was exhausted from below even though heating and increased
moisture content caused by the presence of the victims would have made it lighter than the incoming
fresh air. Another problem is the fact that the air intake and exhaust openings are located too
close to each other – 6.5 feet apart on the same wall, vs. a distance of 24.5 feet from the opposite
wall of the room blocked by the dead bodies. This means that there would be a ‘short-circuit’ of air
in the chamber.

Given an initial hydrogen cyanide concentration of 5 g/m3, complete ‘shut-off’ of gas production,
five air exchanges per half hour and ideal ventilation conditions, the concentration of hydrogen cyanide
remaining will be only 50 mg/m3 after half an hour and it will be safe to enter the gas chamber
without a gas mask. But since Zyklon B continues to outgas for hours, entering the gas chamber after
30 minutes and without protective clothing as claimed would be fatal. Even gas masks equipped
with a special filter J, guaranteeing safety for 30 minutes, would be inadequate under such conditions.
Furthermore, the location of the air intake and exhaust vents on the roof ridge, approximately
15 feet apart,27 begs the question as to what would happen whenever there was a breeze from the
exhaust vent towards the intake opening. Again, it would be a matter of a ‘short-circuit of air’. No
self-respecting German engineer worth his epaulets would design a ‘gas chamber’ this poorly.
The ventilator for the dissecting room and the rooms for washing up and for laying out the corpses
– all of them situated above-ground and with windows – had a capacity of 1 hp, while that for the
much larger mortuary 1 (‘gas chamber’) had 3.5 hp. As Carlo Mattogno has shown, the performance
of all air extractions systems of the different rooms in crematoria II and III in Birkenau (oven
room, mortuary 1, mortuary 2, dissecting and washing room) was considered to be nearly the same:
11,5 to 16,6 air exchanges per hour.28 And Mattogno provided evidence that this was the standard
power required for morgues according to contemporary German expert literature,29 whereas air extraction
systems for hydrogen cyanide gas chambers (delousing chambers) required at least 72 air
exchanges per hour.30 Thus, mortuary 1 was certainly not suited to exchange the given volume of
air, enriched with 5 g/m3 (according to Pressac,31 it was even 12 g/m3!) and within the space of time
(30 minutes) claimed in Holocaust literature (eyewitness reports), nor was it suited to exchange the
given volume of air a sufficient number of times to allow the ‘gas chamber’ to be entered after this
ventilation process without powerful gas masks and protective clothing. The bottom line of all this
is that the ventilation facilities of crematoria II and III were designed strictly for purposes of normal
ventilation, and not for the removal of highly toxic quantities of gas in a short period of time (20 to
30 minutes).32


26 R. Hilberg, The Destruction of the European Jews, Holmes & Meier, New York 1985, Table 75.
27 J.-C. Pressac, op. cit. (note 8), p. 291.
28 C. Mattogno, “Auschwitz: Das Ende einer Legende”, in H. Verbeke (ed.), Auschwitz: Nackte Fakten, Vrij Historisch
Onderzoek, Berchem 1995, pp. 133ff. (online: vho.org/D/anf/Mattogno.html); Engl: Auschwitz: The End of a Legend,
Granata Publishing, Palos Verdes, CA, 1994 (online: vho.org/GB/Books/anf/Mattogno.html).
29 Ibid., p. 140; cf. W. Heepke, Die Leichenverbrennungsanstalten (die Krematorien), Verlag von Carl Marhold, Halle
a.S. 1905, p. 104.
30 C. Mattogno, op. cit. (note 28), p. 141f.; cf. G. Peters, E. Wüstinger, “Sach-Entlausung in Blausäure-Kammern”,
Zeitschrift für hygienische Zoologie und Schädlingsbekämpfung 10/11 (1940), p. 195; F. Puntigam, H. Breymesser,
E. Bernfus, Blausäuregaskammern zur Fleckfieberabwehr, Sonderveröffentlichung des Reichsarbeitsblattes, Berlin
1943, p. 50.
31 J.-C. Pressac, ibid., pp. 16 and 18.
32 This is also the opinion of J.-C. Pressac, ibid., pp. 224 and 289.


When challenged in court, Leuchter said he was unaware of those documents

Lecuhter's capacity in the invetigation did not involve examining documentary evidence.

Leuchter also fails to explain his belief that Zyklon-B was used for delousing, in view of his belief that the product would present technical difficulties in ventilating and decontaminating such as to make it impractical for use in a gas chamber.


Since Zyklon B continues to release hydrogen cyanide for hours, and ventilation by means of
natural draft would have taken days rather than hours, these inmates must have been immune to
the highly toxic hydrogen cyanide! How does that agree with the Special Order issued by Camp
Commandant Hoess,38 August 12, 1942, which stated that after gassed (more correctly: fumigated!)
facilities are opened, members of the SS not wearing gas masks must keep at a distance
of 45 feet for at least 5 hours and must also be mindful of wind direction, since there had already
been some accidents?

Leuchter also testified that it was impossible to kill six million people at Auschwitz .[/b](six million is the estimate commonly given for all Jews killed during the Holocaust, not the estimated number of those gassed at Auschwitz)

Oh, right, it was only four million.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/ActionReport/AR14/images/AuschwFourMill.JPG

Protests were organized outside the court house in Canada, and near Leuchter's home in Malden, Massachusetts. However, despite the bad publicity Leuchter remained active until 1990, when [b]his lack of qualifications to practice was exposed.

In October 1990, the state of Massachusetts brought criminal charges against Leuchter for representing himself as an engineer without a license


I was charged with practicing as an engineer without a license. In point of fact, a license is not required in Massachusetts, or any other state, unless the engineer is involved in construction of buildings, and is certifying compliance with specifications. There is also a statutory exemption for engineers who do not deal with the general public.

As confirmation of the spurious nature of this charge, it should be pointed out there are more than fifty thousand practicing engineers in Massachusetts, of whom only five thousand are licensed. Although the state's licensing law has been in effect since 1940, there has been no record of any prosecution for this offense.

The charge was improperly brought. Nevertheless, if it had been successful, and I had been convicted, I would have been imprisoned for three months.

The Massachusetts state Engineering Board, under pressure from Klarsfeld and her "Holocaust Survivors and Friends in Pursuit of Justice," filed this criminal complaint in Middlesex County. The name of the complainant was denied me, and was not made available until the matter was brought before the court. Before the complaint was issued, and several times thereafter, I was given the chance to recant in return for non-issuance or dismissal of the complaint. I also would have been obliged to give up my profession, in order to discredit my Report. I refused, and responded to the Board's threat with a denial that any law had been violated. The original clerk magistrate who issued the complaint apologized for bowing to Jewish pressure in prosecuting me under a statute that was being mis-applied. A representative of the ADL tried to force her testimony on the hearing, but was denied access because she had no evidence to offer that was pertinent to the matter. The District Court judge, in an excellent imitation of Pontius Pilate, summarily dismissed our motions for dismissal, allowed my court-appointed attorney to withdraw, and instructed Kirk Lyons, Director of the Cause Foundation and my out-of-state attorney, to re-file our motions for dismissal, because they all had merit. After it became clear that there would be no justice for us in the Malden District Court, we moved the case to Superior Court for a jury trial.

With this charge hanging over my head, it was impossible for me to consult, supply equipment, or even act as an expert witness in American courts, as I had often done.

The district attorney's office, under heavy pressure from various Jewish organizations, selected its best prosecuting attorney to handle my case. In the belief that he would be the person most likely to bring about a conviction, he was pulled from a murder trial. In June, just prior to the trial, our motions for dismissal were heard. The judge, also under heavy pressure from Jewish groups, told the district attorney that this case was not properly a criminal matter, and strongly suggested that the case be resolved short of a trial. With the ever-present possibility of conviction and jail (faced by most political prisoners) we negotiated a settlement.

A very special consent agreement was signed [on June 11, 1991] that made legal history in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The agreement was not a promise by the defendant to the court, as is normally the case, but an agreement between the State Engineering Board and myself. The board which, on two previous occasions, had refused to accept my application for registration because they do not register people who practice my discipline, was required to become a party to the agreement. [For more on this agreement, see the IHR Newsletter, July-August 1991, p. 3.]

The consent agreement requires the board to accept my application and process it with "due diligence." Until the application is approved, or until two years are up, I have agreed not to use the title "engineer" or issue an engineering opinion in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. This is, in effect, a temporary gag order imposed to satisfy the interested Jewish groups.

By removing the case from consideration by criminal courts, the possibility of my imprisonment has been eliminated. If the Engineering Board fails to process and issue a license to me within a reasonable period, and in due course, the matter should then move to the civil courts. Attorney Lyons is presently preparing the necessary application. However, a new problem has arisen. All applications must be accompanied by the recommendations of three state-licensed engineers, but none is willing to risk the wrath of the Jews in my behalf.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p429_Leuchter.html


Critics have argued that Leuchter not only lacks an engineering license but hasn't an engineering degree or other professional certification or recognised credential — his only education consists of a BA in history, which he completed in 1964. He admits to having no formal training in toxicology, biology or chemistry.[1] Additionally, while Leuchter had some experience with electric chairs and lethal injection systems it was discovered that his claims of expertise in the area of gas chambers was a fabrication and he had no experience with them.

Logical fallacy:ad hominem.

In any case, any undergraduate has more credentials than Euclid, Galileo or Thomas Edison.

And, sorry buddy, the courts thought otherwise and allowed Leuchter to testify as an expert witness.

This message cannot be read because this filthy Jew is on ignore.

I wonder if this filthy Jew accepts the accusations of Jewish ritual murder by his own standards of evidence, since they are attested to by hundreds of witnesses, perpetrators' confessions and convictions in courts of law.

23 year old girl who thinks she knows it all. No doubt brainwashed like Prussian Blue were by that whore called April Gaede. She sure gaede up her daughters. :p

Armchair POS nazi. Fuck right off, Cuntess.

Jew embarrasses his race by revealing its true poisonous nature. Hooray for free speech!

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit. It's quite hilarious really. :D

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit. It's quite hilarious really. :D

You lost.
:)

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit. It's quite hilarious really. :D
Jew flatters himself in spite of ineffectual argument. Again, feigns levity. T.J.B.

....
....I have a story, but NO proof
....
....I really am a ten a penny idiot.
....

Regardless, you still dont have any proof of the alleged gas chambers.

Fancy believing a story without proof.

You must be really stupid!

Ten years old kids in the playground would have you for breakfast.

Id say this is appalling but it only shows your true color, you are what you blame us of being- a beast.

You obviously haven't read the insults of your colleagues on this site.
I'd say you lot have shown your true colours many, many times over :)

....
....I still have NO PROOF of the story I believe
....

come on then spoon head, where's your proof ?

You lost.
:)

Nice sig:
"Jews are very much like lice- Zyklon B is proven to kill them."

Uh oh! I thought the holocaust didn't happen....

Uh oh! I thought the holocaust didn't happen....

make your mind up, did it or didn't it happen ?

Not proof especially when they show screen grabs from Soviet Propaganda movies as proof. Here's an easy question: How do you know they didn't die of disease? It's rather common in war.


It would still be a crime - no matter if they died of bullets or starvation or disease.

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit.

I am indeed a "nazi". I don't follow your Judeo-Christian moral nonsense.

It's quite hilarious really. :D

What is hilarious is the manner in which you have mismeasured your intellect and learning versus, say, mine.

You obviously haven't read the insults of your colleagues on this site.
I'd say you lot have shown your true colours many, many times over :)

Jew whinges when things don't turn out well for him.

This message is hidden because this filthy Jew is on your ignore list.

The perpetration of a crime is predicated upon the breaking of a law.Try again, you filthy Jew.

It would still be a crime - no matter if they died of bullets or starvation or disease.
explain what you mean a crime ?

how can any one commit a crime against a fucking parasite!

make your mind up, did it or didn't it happen ?

My sarcasm went right over your stoopid head didn't it. :rofl

It would still be a crime - no matter if they died of bullets or starvation or disease.

That's an extraordinary statement, it sounds like a pretext for expanding the reparation racket to include the decendants of the allies who caused the starvation with bombing.

explain what you mean a crime ?

how can any one commit a crime against a fucking parasite!

No, what he has to demonstrate is that the Germans were bound by a law not to exterminate the Jews.

The Biological Jew
by Eustace Mullins.

THE PARASITE
Most of us think of a parasite as something distasteful, whose role in life is to feed at the expense of someone else. As a result, the term, when applied to humans, is always one of disgust. In the animal and plant kingdoms, also, the parasite is universally disliked. The Oxford English Dictionary (1933) defines the term.
“Parasite–1. One who eats at the table, or at the expense of, another; always an opprobrious application.
2. Biol. An animal or plant which lives in or upon another organism (technically called its host) and draws its nutriment directly from it.
3. (fig.) a person whose part or action resembles that of an animal parasite.”
This we find that a parasite is one who is disliked, who feeds at the expense of another, and who lives in or upon another organism which is called the host. We also find that the term can be applied to a person whose life follows the classic life pattern of the parasite.

....

We now ask the reader – what group appears and reappears in the history of one civilization after another? What group has always been actively disliked by its host peoples? What group has played an often decisive role in the decay and collapse of one civilization after another? What group indulges in every type of degeneracy? What group always localizes to certain positions among the host peoples? And what group refuses to fulfill a constructive role in any civilization, but instead, remains true to its motto of “Always take”, while refusing to make a useful or an adequate return?
KNOWN AS THE JEWS
This group, as the reader may have already surmised from his own studies, is known throughout history as the Jews. Prior to the present study, human individuals or groups living at the expense of others were often called parasites, but this term was used purely in a sociological sense, without any biological point of reference. Plantation owners were said to be parasites because they lived at the expense of their slaves, aristocrats were said to be parasites because they lived at the expense of the masses, armies were said to be parasites because they lived at the expense of the workers.
But, in every case, the supposed parasites were performing certain duties and fulfilling certain responsibilities in the society. Thus we find that in the purely sociological sense, it is possible to name many groups as parasitical, such as children and those who are too old to work. They are certainly feeding at the expense of others, performing no useful work, and making no adequate return. But these groups either have done useful work in the past, or they are expected to do so in the future. Thus, they do not fall within the accepted framework of the biological definition of a parasite. Throughout this work, we will find that the biological references hold true to an amazing degree, in establishing the history and the presence of a parasitical group, and that in every instance, the records of the Jews prove that they are fulfilling the role of biological parasites.

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:fO5cdJLgke8J:www.podblanc.com/files/biologicaljew.pdf+eustace+mullins+the+biological+jew&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=uk


Eustace Mullins writes with suberb accuracy, and I concur, that the Jew, is indeed a parasite.

It's a shame the National Socialists did not exterminate them when they had the chance.

....I still have NO proof of the alleged HOLOCAUST


you still not posting proof!

tut tut!

NO PROOF = NO STORY!

:rofl

You obviously haven't read the insults of your colleagues on this site.
I'd say you lot have shown your true colours many, many times over :)

Except that you
A. Deserve it due to fallacious provocations
And
B. Id tell you to take it like a man but you're a Jew and thus being a man is not something you can ever achieve.
But
C. Only a Jew would stoop to talking out of a gutter to a woman.

Nice sig:
"Jews are very much like lice- Zyklon B is proven to kill them."

Uh oh! I thought the holocaust didn't happen....

You know what's the largest most ubiquitous joke among your kind? Your nose, you see it every day and yet you still don't get it!
It's no surprise you wouldn't get my joke either

It would still be a crime - no matter if they died of bullets or starvation or disease.

I agree, everything Zionists do is a crime.

Their existence is a crime.

:)

Hey listen guys, I'm just having some fun here, and ocassionally posting some little tidbits which prove you wrong. Even though I fully understand you'll always find something to justify your cause and deny anything an anti puts in front of you :)
Conversely, you're all screaming inside with hatred and frustration.
Every day of your pathetic little lives.

I find that rather amusing. :D

....I still have no proof of the alleged HOLOCAUST



NO PROOF = NO STORY!

come on spoon head see if you can cancel these terms out!

Sounds like the priest of Holocaust religion is very unpleased with this infidel disbelief in the Jew-made holy faith!

Oh no!

Hey listen guys, I'm just having some fun here, and ocassionally posting some little tidbits which prove you wrong. Even though I fully understand you'll always find something to justify your cause and deny anything an anti puts in front of you :)

Oh, that's rich, seeing as though your "little tidbits which prove you wrong" have been completely demolished in this very thread.

Conversely, you're all screaming inside with hatred and frustration.
Every day of your pathetic little lives.

Yes, don't you know, we are the ones who troll about forums issuing nine parts insult to every one part lies, because we have nothing better to do with ourselves.

I find that rather amusing. :D

I find you rather amusing.

Conversely, you're all screaming inside with hatred and frustration.


Another Jew who doesn't realise that - every time you speak your mind goes on parade.

Projector!

This idiot bowled up in here thinking he was dealing with the stereotype "redneck" and got himself a new asshole torn...Hey peter I'm in the UK you do realise the whole Holohoax thing has a purpose don't you?..You see all those Pakistanis and Nig Nogs walking about, well the constant Holohoax bullshit is to make whites tolerant of having the whole place turned into a third world shithole..Those big Jew bankers need cheap labor and killing us "the people whos country it is" is a bonus...

Its called White guilt and they teach it in school now along with slavery to White kids check this out http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article3300819.ece of course they never mention the Jews treatment of the Arabs in this teaching of "Tolerance" that would burst the bubble...

I say again..your a Tool mate..

I say again..your a Tool mate..

can only agree.....a complete tool!

This idiot bowled up in here thinking he was dealing with the stereotype "redneck" and got himself a new asshole torn...Hey peter I'm in the UK you do realise the whole Holohoax thing has a purpose don't you?..You see all those Pakistanis and Nig Nogs walking about, well the constant Holohoax bullshit is to make whites tolerant of having the whole place turned into a third world shithole..Those big Jew bankers need cheap labor and killing us "the people whos country it is" is a bonus...

Its called White guilt and they teach it in school now along with slavery to White kids check this out http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article3300819.ece of course they never mention the Jews treatment of the Arabs in this teaching of "Tolerance" that would burst the bubble...

I say again..your a Tool mate..

Omg you're such a paranoid dickhead :rofl

"well the constant Holohoax bullshit is to make whites tolerant of having the whole place turned into a third world shithole..Those big Jew bankers need cheap labor and killing us "the people whos country it is" is a bonus... "

Did you think that one up as you got on or off the bus you drive? :rofl:rofl:rofl

Tell you what you fascist cunt, you keep denying the holocaust in the hope that your hitler cleansing will become complete and everyone will think hitler was mr. nice guy. You're the tool mate...

Tell you what you fascist cunt, you keep denying the holocaust in the hope that your hitler cleansing will become complete and everyone will think hitler was mr. nice guy. You're the tool mate...

What is hitler cleansing?

"well the constant Holohoax bullshit is to make whites tolerant of having the whole place turned into a third world shithole..Those big Jew bankers need cheap labor and killing us "the people whos country it is" is a bonus... "

I don't get where the disproof of this rhetoric statement is :confused:

You set up a straw man argument and you failed to even beat THAT down? Good God you're an incompetent.

Omg you're such a paranoid dickhead :rofl

"well the constant Holohoax bullshit is to make whites tolerant of having the whole place turned into a third world shithole..Those big Jew bankers need cheap labor and killing us "the people whos country it is" is a bonus... "

Did you think that one up as you got on or off the bus you drive? :rofl:rofl:rofl

Tell you what you fascist cunt, you keep denying the holocaust in the hope that your hitler cleansing will become complete and everyone will think hitler was mr. nice guy. You're the tool mate...

It didn't take you many posts to reveal your ethnicity to us, this thread makes it clear.
:[]

Now we know how to regard your comments:


“To twist a phrase out of its meaning, to use all the tricks of the clever advocate, to play upon words, and to condemn what they did not know … such were the characteristics of the Polish Jew… Honesty and right-thinking he lost as completely as simplicity and truthfulness. He made himself master of all the gymnastics of the Schools and applied them to obtain advantage over any one less cunning than himself. He took a delight in cheating and overreaching, which gave him a sort of joy of victory. But his own people he could not treat in this way: they were as knowing as he. It was the non-Jew who, to his loss, felt the consequences of the talmudically trained mind of the Polish Jew.”

Heinrich Graetz: The History of the Jews (volume 6)

It didn't take you many posts to reveal your ethnicity to us, this thread makes it clear.
:[]

Now we know how to regard your comments:
“To twist a phrase out of its meaning, to use all the tricks of the clever advocate, to play upon words, and to condemn what they did not know … such were the characteristics of the Polish Jew… Honesty and right-thinking he lost as completely as simplicity and truthfulness. He made himself master of all the gymnastics of the Schools and applied them to obtain advantage over any one less cunning than himself. He took a delight in cheating and overreaching, which gave him a sort of joy of victory. But his own people he could not treat in this way: they were as knowing as he. It was the non-Jew who, to his loss, felt the consequences of the talmudically trained mind of the Polish Jew.”

Heinrich Graetz: The History of the Jews (volume 6)

http://www.doc.govt.nz/upload/2381/Dead-Rat-27.jpg

explain what you mean a crime ?

how can any one commit a crime against a fucking parasite!

This is your argument? And you wonder why you are such a pathetic shit?

No, what he has to demonstrate is that the Germans were bound by a law not to exterminate the Jews.

Do you think murder is not a crime? Why do you think the Nazi's went to such lengths to hide their crimes?

It didn't take you many posts to reveal your ethnicity to us, this thread makes it clear.
:[]

Now we know how to regard your comments:

Err, I'm not jewish, neither do my posts tell you anything about my supposed ethnicity. I've backed blacks as well on stormfront, and asians. Nice try homo.
See, your reply is another fine example of how narrow minded WN's are. You actually can't fathom the idea that someone who isn't part of any ethnic minority could actually be against your disgusting racism, hatred and revisionism :)

Btw, I'm glad this motherfucker got hanged.

YouTube - The death of Rudolf Höß - who is NOT Rudolf Hess (really!)


And answer me this,

"Nature is cruel; therefore we are also entitled to be cruel. When I send the flower of German youth into the steel hail of the next war without feeling the slightest regret over the precious German blood that is being spilled, should I not also have the right to eliminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin?"
(Adolf Hitler, cited in Joachim Fest's 1975 "Hitler")

If the jews are an inferior race, how come this minority have contributed so much to art and knowledge, film, TV, research and economics? And how come they've apparently been able to control the media, according to you? That would would suggest jews are anything but inferior. And how come so many jews are so successful in business? I don't know why I'm bothering because frankly, you bitter, jealous, racist scum will try to pull the wool over my eyes again. :rolleyes:

Err, I'm not jewish, neither do my posts tell you anything about my supposed ethnicity. I've backed blacks as well on stormfront, and asians. Nice try homo.

If the jews are an inferior race, how come this minority have contributed so much to art and knowledge, film, TV, research and economics? And how come they've apparently been able to control the media, according to you? That would would suggest jews are anything but inferior. And how come so many jews are so successful in business? I don't know why I'm bothering because frankly, you bitter, jealous, racist scum will try to pull the wool over my eyes again. :rolleyes:

Odd that you would call the jews a race, I thought it was correct to regard them as members of a religion.

I, personally have never stated that jews are in "inferior race". Mendacious, prideful, destructively parasitic to other races, self aggrandizing, intolerantly racist, and downright ugly; those things and more I would call them. They produce good musicians, brilliant scientists, and wildly successful crooked businessmen but their own culture is hide-bound and sterile.

I think the jews are quite special.
Their ability to work together for their mutual benefit to the detriment of the rest of humanity is superior to anything similar that the world has seen.

The world would be a better place if they were simply another religion or even merely another tribe of ugly Semites but that's not the case. Their self-destructive tribal hubris has brought them low time after time throughout history and they are currently setting the stage for their next fall. May it be final and permanent.

Leuchter Report - completely debunked?

Debunked by whom? Here is the deal ladies and Gentleman.

Leuchter released a report of his findings with regards to samples he took at Auschwitz. The claim was that his methodology was flawed, bla, bla bla. Soooooo, the holocaust industry set out to disprove Leuchter and his findings by having the Krakow institute in Poland debunk Leuchter's findings. If you google Krakow Report and read it - Dr. Mononwitz (I think was his name) basically confirmed Leuchter's findings.

The holocaust industry couldn't debunk Leuchter so they focused on "Prussian Blue" (Not the WN group)

Or lack of Prussian blue staining left behind by high uses of ZK-B.

If you were to visit Auschwitz today and look at the DELOUSING CHAMBERS where ZK-B(Hydrogen Cyanide) was used (Once a week according to testimony) to delouse clothes etc. The Prussian blue staining has bleed through to outside of the delousing chambers. The delousing chambers almost look like someone went in an painted them blue from all of the blue staining left behind by the byproduct of ZK-B.

Yet these so-called death chambers where people were supposedly gassed, show no traces of PB staining. Now, if you read the Krakow report, (The report that was put out to debunk Leuchter, they hit a brick wall with PB stains. How did Monowitz explain this lack of PB on these so-called death chambers. According to the Krakow institute, it only took ZK-B 300PPM to kill humans, while the delousing chambers were using 1600PPM PPM = Parts Per Million to kill lice etc. Okay, lets say that's true. A concentration of 3xppm will kill humans, but 16xppm is needed to kill lice/mites etc and that's why the DELOUSING CHAMBERS are stained and the death chambers aren't with PB. But, according to jewish testimony the DELOUSING chambers were only used ONCE A WEEK, while these so-called death chambers were in constant use with no PB stains.

Leuchter Report - completely debunked?

Debunked by whom? Here is the deal ladies and Gentleman.


Debunked when he took the stand and was destroyed as a fraud.


Leuchter released a report of his findings with regards to samples he took at Auschwitz. The claim was that his methodology was flawed, bla, bla bla.


bla bla bla - this would be the part when the so called expert did not know that HCN is used to delouse clothes in larger concentrations than those needed to murder, that he was not in fact an engineer and had never even taken an engineering class, that the chambers were not used to kill 4 million but rather closer to 1 million, etc. :rofl



Soooooo, the holocaust industry set out to disprove Leuchter and his findings by having the Krakow institute in Poland debunk Leuchter's findings. If you google Krakow Report and read it - Dr. Mononwitz (I think was his name) basically confirmed Leuchter's findings.

The holocaust industry couldn't debunk Leuchter so they focused on "Prussian Blue" (Not the WN group)

Or lack of Prussian blue staining left behind by high uses of ZK-B.

If you were to visit Auschwitz today and look at the DELOUSING CHAMBERS where ZK-B(Hydrogen Cyanide) was used (Once a week according to testimony) to delouse clothes etc. The Prussian blue staining has bleed through to outside of the delousing chambers. The delousing chambers almost look like someone went in an painted them blue from all of the blue staining left behind by the byproduct of ZK-B.

Yet these so-called death chambers where people were supposedly gassed, show no traces of PB staining. Now, if you read the Krakow report, (The report that was put out to debunk Leuchter, they hit a brick wall with PB stains. How did Monowitz explain this lack of PB on these so-called death chambers. According to the Krakow institute, it only took ZK-B 300PPM to kill humans, while the delousing chambers were using 1600PPM PPM = Parts Per Million to kill lice etc.


If you doubt the levels needed to kill humans, google HCN and OSHA and read the TLV for HCN - its easy, even a neo nazi like you could do it.


Okay, lets say that's true. A concentration of 3xppm will kill humans, but 16xppm is needed to kill lice/mites etc and that's why the DELOUSING CHAMBERS are stained and the death chambers aren't with PB. But, according to jewish testimony the DELOUSING chambers were only used ONCE A WEEK, while these so-called death chambers were in constant use with no PB stains.

Its a lot higher than 16 moron - learn the facts before you deny and perhaps you will not been such an ass.

It takes a higher concentration for a long period. Delousing 24-48 hours at a very hight level - while murder took a half hour.

Do the math again. But hey, this is so complicated, Leuchter, an expert, had no knowledge of this before taking the stand at a trial.

Leuchter Report - completely debunked?

Debunked by whom? Here is the deal ladies and Gentleman......<...>

the fact is, Zyklon B is a very poor "lethal gassing agent"; it came in the form of wax-coated pellets that needed "room temperatures" (15-20°C) to activate effectively, over a period of several hours, the cyanide content within!....a "big ask" during the long, cold Polish winters (perhaps the Nazis only "gassed" during late spring & summer :rolleyes: )....thus: some sort of heating element would have been required....as well as gas-tight/sub-marine-type doors and large circulatroy/extraction fans for a chamber of several m³ (suitable for holding 50+ people @ a time!)......none of which, of course, has ever been produced as "evidence" by the ZOG holocaust-fraudsters....the ideal way to utilise cyanide as a lethal gassing agent is the methodology employed in US gas chambers where raw cyanide crystals are dumped into sulphuric acid thus producing a lethal cloud of prussic acid gas.....which, of course, the Nazis, if they had been intent on such homicidal gassings, would have known full well!....and, knowing this, and knowing the necessary architecture required, would have opted for a much simpler method such as carbon monoxide....i think it was Revilo P Oliver who noted that the most efficacious method for gassing would have been shunting sealed railway carriages holding hundreds of jews into a closed tunnel and simply leave the steam engine running...thus producing voluminous quantities of CO!...one wonders why Leuchter even bothered with his little "safari" (but, thnx again to Sándor P for that excellent post! (http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=714862&postcount=12))....no effective lethal gassing agent, no gas-tight doors, no large circulation/extraction fans.....no "Holocaust"


what a REAL gas-chamber looks like....

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/gaschamber.jpg

(jimbo!)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/regalia_mothercross_gold.jpg

Vapor pressure of HCN is pretty low and its boiling point is at 26 Deg C

This lie is weakening by the moment.

Do you think murder is not a crime?

Provide the law which which made the extermination of Jews at the hand of the military by order of the state a crime in Germany, or shut up, filthy Jew.

Why do you think the Nazi's went to such lengths to hide their crimes?

That's not a fact, but a theory concocted to bring the facts in line with your contentions.

You're dealing with someone here who has a thorough understanding of the logic of science, so don't expect your usual obfuscation techniques to bring you anything.

Debunked when he took the stand and was destroyed as a fraud.

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Yet, the holocaust industry sent out an entire science team to debunk his work.

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bla bla bla - this would be the part when the so called expert did not know that HCN is used to delouse clothes in larger concentrations than those needed to murder, that he was not in fact an engineer and had never even taken an engineering class, that the chambers were not used to kill 4 million but rather closer to 1 million, etc. :rofl

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B/S........... What did Roth testify to in the Zudel trial in Canada? (Tell everyone hear on VNN that?) Did I not give the Krakow institute that 1600PPM would be used for delousing clothes etc, did I not say that 300PPM could be lethal to humans? As for 4-million or 1-million you're trying to set up a straw man that I'm not going to fall for.

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If you doubt the levels needed to kill humans, google HCN and OSHA and read the TLV for HCN - its easy, even a neo nazi like you could do it.

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I don't need to fucking google anything kike..

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Its a lot higher than 16 moron - learn the facts before you deny and perhaps you will not been such an ass.

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You're the one who needs to google ZK-B
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It takes a higher concentration for a long period. Delousing 24-48 hours at a very hight level - while murder took a half hour.

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Lets go with this, shall we.. You just said that it took 1/2-hour for ZK-B to murder/kill? Right? Are you sure you want to go with that?

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Do the math again. But hey, this is so complicated, Leuchter, an expert, had no knowledge of this before taking the stand at a trial.

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It doesn't matter what Leuchter said, Leuchter had his samples sent off to a lab, now once again, WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT ROTH FOUND? Better, yet, what he didn't find.

Continue to ignore me, Peter Roberts. It's for your own good.

I don't get it. It's like the jews are daring us to repeat the holocaust.

Male nicht den teufel on die wand, jude.

Continue to ignore me, Peter Robinovich and/or Rubenstein It's for your own good.

Just a nuance. :)

[QUOTE]Hey listen guys, I'm just having some fun


We know that.
Your masturbation makes all of us want to puke:puke:
We did not know that a circumcised dick could stink as bad as yours!:ewww


Conversely, you're all screaming inside with hatred and frustration.
Every day of your pathetic little lives.

You are mistaken, masturbator:
it is well known by now, that we are all "little live" Palestinians in your view (T.J.B.-s under his fingernail story).
Hatred and frustration are attributes of masturbators.
We'll kick your butt as long as we like and as hard as we can.
Truth and retribution is at hand.

Tuisto, I am just thinking. What if this Pseudo-Jew is not Jewed up yet? Surely he does not have the duckets to hire a proper Rabbi-practor to handle the foreskin matter. Perhaps Alex Lee could do the biting of the foreskin for him, after Lee has experienced it first hand of course.

I wonder if some sort of certification is required.

Tuisto, I am just thinking. What if this Pseudo-Jew is not Jewed up yet? Surely he does not have the duckets to hire a proper Rabbi-practor to handle the foreskin matter. Perhaps Alex Lee could do the biting of the foreskin for him, after Lee has experiences it first hand of course.

I wonder if some sort of certification is required.

It is, but never mind.
As a former ship owner I've gone through all kinds of handling certification issues. That's not the real problem.
The real bummer is Roberts's penis-smell combined with Lee's sweat each time he has eaten dog meat, which causes a disfiguration of even well embedded cyberworld instruments to a degree of reaching holocaust dimensions. :confused:

This is your argument? And you wonder why you are such a pathetic shit?
and your argument is to provide NO PROOF!

tut tut!

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit. It's quite hilarious really. :D

There is humor in your unwitting description of the value of your posts. Buckets of shit indeed. You jews and your obsessions with excrement and name-calling.
T.J.B.

You know, it gets really old when the antis come here and loudly proclaim revisionism has been debunked by basically doing a paste-job of some Jewish detractor.

No new arguments hufh? Since you've seen testimony from witnesses and confessions from perpetrators - I've demonstrated a body is not required - your demands are just spam at this point.

Its really too bad you guys can't come up with a witness who isnt prone to "exaggeration," and confessions from people whose interrogators haven't been caught or admitted to beatings and worse.

I wonder if this filthy Jew accepts the accusations of Jewish ritual murder by his own standards of evidence, since they are attested to by hundreds of witnesses, perpetrators' confessions and convictions in courts of law.

Ho ho!! Its always different when it makes the Jews look bad. Let's also avoid the discussion of Jews being heavily involved in the transatlantic slave trade!

T.J.B.

No new arguments hufh? Since you've seen testimony from witnesses and confessions from perpetrators - I've demonstrated a body is not required - your demands are just spam at this point.

You are irrelevant to this thread jew. Your 'proof' and evidence tainted. So nothing new from you either.

Debunk the Leuchter report with your own thought. If you want to discuss anything; use verifiable proof via links and, as stated M.L.A. type footnoting.

Kikes though are unable to think originally. In this case, it would be committing heresy. juden thought they were very clever for having thought up the their torah and getting it included in other Faiths, even the pagan it would seem. And so now, the failed religion of jewish holocaustianity and the result and impact of the monumental failure to lie convincingly is a matter of record.

For anyone really interested, I would like to suggest the reading of The Leuchter Report: Critical Edition; which can be downloaded free at http://www.vho.org

You know, it gets really old when the antis come here and loudly proclaim revisionism has been debunked by basically doing a paste-job of some Jewish detractor.

Leuchter was debunked by Van Pelt - who is not Jewish, and far more qualified than Leuchter.

http://www.hdot.org/trial/defense/van/

Leuchter was debunked by Van Pelt - who is not Jewish, and far more qualified than Leuchter.

http://www.hdot.org/trial/defense/van/
Qualified in bullshit!

Van Pelt is a premier shabbos goy Historian who will one day have a rope round his neck and his feet dangled over a fire!

He couldn't tell the difference between chalk and cheese, nevermind Cyanide and Ferric Iron.

Of course, all this does not remove the fact that you jews dont have proof of the holohoax.

NO PROOF = NO STORY!

Qualified in bullshit!

Van Pelt is a premier shabbos goy Historian who will one day have a rope round his neck and his feet dangled over a fire!

He couldn't tell the difference between chalk and cheese, nevermind Cyanide and Ferric Iron.

Of course, all this does not remove the fact that you jews dont have proof of the holohoax.

NO PROOF = NO STORY!

OMG - someone find this troll a bridge to hind under already.

Does this spammer make the rest of you WN's embarrassed? :rofl

OMG - someone find this troll a bridge to hind under already.

Does this spammer make the rest of you WN's embarrassed? :rofl

For new comers: those little accumulated green dots are indicators
of some respect for participation in this forum.
Red means troll. And accumulated reds mean the worst thing anyone can come across: T.J.B. - troll

For new comers: those little accumulated green dots are indicators
of some respect for participation in this forum.
Red means troll. And accumulated reds mean the worst thing anyone can come across: T.J.B. - troll

No, it means my views are unpopular on VNN - which i take as a badge of honor.

It has no relevance when talking about lies or prejudice.

[QUOTE]No, it means my views are unpopular on VNN - which i take as a badge of honor.

Ewiger Jude:
1. Sneeking into Jews stay out! territory.
2. Vomits his venomous utterances like a cattle fish its inky liquid
3. whines about being misunderstood by mis-using/abusing the word:
"HONOR"
Honor (truth) and jews (lies) are like fire and water: A whining T.J.B.
jew ("why does everybody hate us?") will extinguish the fire of truth
with his hypocritical tears, the byproduct of which is poisonous smoke.

Hypocrites, conspiracy fruitloops and nazis flocking around my posts like flies to a bucket of shit. It's quite hilarious really. :D

You are admitting here that you are a bucket of shit.

You lost the debate.

Jews have no chance of ever winning anything that they don't cheat at.

No new arguments hufh? Since you've seen testimony from witnesses and confessions from perpetrators - I've demonstrated a body is not required - your demands are just spam at this point.

I don't understand why there is such a frenzy about so-called "holocaust denial". Who cares? All Jews should be holocausted. Why deny it? Be proud of it. If six million Jews were murdered by the Nazi, say, "Hooray, let's do it again." There's only about 40 million more of those Jewish scumbags to go.

So, let's have a party and celebrate,
Hanging Jews is really great.
There is no one on Earth a bigger ass,
Let's take the Jews out and give them the gas.

Now this is what I call a detailed and rigorous refutation; the entire Leuchter report demolished in just a few scant paragraphs.

...
In any case, any undergraduate has more credentials than Euclid, Galileo or Thomas Edison.

And, sorry buddy, the courts thought otherwise and allowed Leuchter to testify as an expert witness.

Nice job! You squashed him like a fly on the wall.

The jews murdered 11 million Ukrainians in the 1930's.

No.
They didn't.
The Ukrainians killed each other.

See in the great novel of the Ukrainians Sholochov "The silent Don"

Srsly, watch this movie. (http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DC/gcgvcole.html)

No.
They didn't.
The Ukrainians killed each other.

See in the great novel of the Ukrainians Sholochov "The silent Don"

Jewish lies. The Holomodor was carried out by Judeo-Bolsheviks.

Jewish KILLERS: http://www.vdare.com/misc/051105_macdonald_stalin.htm

Jewish lies. The Holomodor was carried out by Judeo-Bolsheviks.

Jewish KILLERS: http://www.vdare.com/misc/051105_macdonald_stalin.htm

Does anyone want to get back to discussing Leuchter? :rofl

[quote=Slamin2;716046]

Ewiger Jude:
1. Sneeking into enemy (people's countries) territory.

2. Vomits his venomous utterances.
3. Whines about being misunderstood by mis-using/abusing the word:
"HONOR"
Honor (truth) and jews (lies) are like fire and water: A whining T.J.B.
jew ("why does everybody hate us?") will extinguish the fire of truth
with his hypocritical tears, the byproduct of which is poisonous smoke.

Jews cannot operate without the smokescreen which is hiding it's pack of lies.

Does anyone want to get back to discussing Leuchter?

Fred Leuchter, a true and great man, fearless and brave, intelligent and honest.

No.
They didn't.
The Ukrainians killed each other.

See in the great novel of the Ukrainians Sholochov "The silent Don"

Ridiculous piece of writing; suprised that you would dare to suggest it here, your "Shlomo" Sholocov made up most of his tome. That is what you jews do..make silk out of pigs' ears.

This thread is 'derailed' because juden cannot keep up with topics; they are intellectually and morally bereft of any ability to do so. They make statements one day, and then come back the next with a completely new subject matter. Der Chef had described jewish insanity perfectly; to a "T".

Speaking without deflection might involve *gasp* original ideas and *gasp* consideration of other people's views. Crazy.

The Rabbis do not approve.

Fred Leuchter, a true and great man, fearless and brave, intelligent and honest.

Only if fraud is part of honesty. Or did you forget the part when Leuchter publishes under an engineer title?

Only if fraud is part of honesty. Or did you forget the part when Leuchter publishes under an engineer title?

Oy Gevalt! You so is right! I haf compleetly forget abouts dis leetle detail when speeking about de goyim. Oy! Ve must foreffer give dem bad names. Only de Jhooze iz honest und holy vhile de goyim iz only animals. Ve must alvays protect ze Jhoose und convict ze Gentiles because telling lies about Gentiles iz a holy mitzvah.

Jews From Their Lips #36

Listen, Kike, you don't have a leg to stand on. Your lies are nothing but lies. Slander a good man all you can, but the facts show you for the liar and slanderer that you are. Now, please go hang yourself.

Do you think this Jew is conciously lying to us, or is he just a lemming (not a higher order of judaism i.e. 3rd degree jew as opposed to a 33rd degree).

Do you think this Jew is conciously lying to us, or is he just a lemming (not a higher order of judaism i.e. 3rd degree jew as opposed to a 33rd degree).

All Jews are liars. That's how they are trained from youth by the demon rabbis and by their evil parents to deceive and betray all non-Jews. It is a kind of joke among them, seeing how clever they can be at spinning yarns that the Gentiles believe.

In my youth, I had a job working at a Jewish summer camp. Not understanding what Judaism was at the time, it amazed me that these adolescent and pre-teenage little Jews found such pleasure in telling about the wonderfully clever frauds and swindles that their fathers had committed in the business world. Each story was greeted with a lot of appreciative laughter only to be trumped by the next story of even more outrageous and illegal enterprises. The winner was the boy who began his story with, "My father swindled the country of Yugoslavia...." These were all rich New York kikes, so their fathers had a lot of opportunities to defraud people in high places.

Judaism, itself, is a lie and the world's greatest fraud and swindle.

So, yes, this kikenvermin is being just an ordinary kikenvermin, trying his hand at seeing how many he can deceive. His head has already been cut off in the posts by the above excellent VNN'ers, but he is too stupid to realize it, yet.

So the moral ease in which they can lie to a white gentile is the same as the ease in which i can compare a negro to a monkeyT.N.B.

WOW thats amazing. If only we could get this indoctrination on camera. Suppose we could find a jew forum where they have such discussions (a hebrew dictionary would come in use)>

So the moral ease in which they can lie to a white gentile is the same as the ease in which i can compare a negro to a monkeyT.N.B.

WOW thats amazing. If only we could get this indoctrination on camera. Suppose we could find a jew forum where they have such discussions (a hebrew dictionary would come in use)>

If you want to understand Jewish lies and Jewish liars, there is no better place than to peruse the Babylonian Talmud, written by two-faced, hypocritical, deceiving, lying rabbis who claim to be so clever that they can even outwit God, Himself ... and they prove it by overturning every Commandment in the Old Testament.

The Jews are masters of deceit and the Devil's own asshole.

If you want to understand Jewish lies and Jewish liars, there is no better place than to peruse the Babylonian Talmud, written by two-faced, hypocritical, deceiving, lying rabbis who claim to be so clever that they can even outwit God, Himself ... and they prove it by overturning every Commandment in the Old Testament.

The Jews are masters of deceit and the Devil's own asshole.

It is clear from their looks that they are devils. Its gods way of saying 'watch out'. Its the same logic that makes poisonous snakes bright red. However, to overcome this evolutionary deficiency, the Jews have adopted a very persuasive manner in which to con the harmless and noble races. This persuausive manner can be likened to the evil snake who twists and turns mesmerising the generally decent and unassuming rabbit. The Arabs and niggers too, also look like devils and also have an aptitude of portarying a false and warmh to their intended victim.

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-Jews-YeshivaStudentNamesIsrael.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Index-Jews.html&h=576&w=420&sz=132&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=6EIsRI0XxwqPGM:&tbnh=134&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dugly%2Bjew%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.whozoo.org/Anlife2001/jeffcate/MexTigerRatFwzb50.jpg&imgrefurl=http://whozoo.org/Anlife2001/jeffcate/JeffCates_MexicanTigerRatSnake.html&h=748&w=800&sz=126&hl=en&start=61&um=1&tbnid=uSWr7cMwnhtO4M:&tbnh=134&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsnake%2Band%2Ba%2Brat%26start%3D54%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

It is clear from their looks that they are devils. Its gods way of saying 'watch out'. Its the same logic that makes poisonous snakes bright red. However, to overcome this evolutionary deficiency, the Jews have adopted a very persuasive manner in which to con the harmless and noble races. This persuausive manner can be likened to the evil snake who twists and turns mesmerising the generally decent and unassuming rabbit. The Arabs and niggers too, also look like devils and also have an aptitude of portarying a false and warmh to their intended victim.

I never thought of ugly people, being natures warning system. Good point.

I never thought of ugly people, being natures warning system. Good point.

I don't mean ugly looking. I mean sinister looking. For example, not ally gypsies look ugly, but they all look sinister

Listen, Kike, you don't have a leg to stand on. Your lies are nothing but lies. Slander a good man all you can, but the facts show you for the liar and slanderer that you are. Now, please go hang yourself.

Leuchter is an admitted fraud and I don't have a leg to stand on?

So Leuchter lies and misrepresents his qualifications, and in response you go on some anti-jewish tirade?

What a fucking joke.

Leuchter is an admitted fraud and I don't have a leg to stand on?

So Leuchter lies and misrepresents his qualifications, and in response you go on some anti-jewish tirade?

What a fucking joke.

Why should we believe you. You Jews evolved in the desert which lacked water. As the water could not be shared between everyone, only the most ruthless liars could survive to take the water. As you spawn from one of those survivors, it would be scientific of me to say that you are lying to us right now.

Leuchter is an admitted fraud and I don't have a leg to stand on?

So Leuchter lies and misrepresents his qualifications, and in response you go on some anti-jewish tirade?

What a fucking joke.

The joke is that you don't know how to read but you lie and misrepresent your qualifications by claiming to do so.

Leuchter already explained his position quite well. And Sandor kicked your ass. But as the Jewish lawyers say, "If you don't have a case, then attack the character or the integrity of your oponent." That's all that you are doing. You don't have a case, so you are merely looking for some way of avoiding the facts by redirecting the argument towards minor details.

You don't have a leg to stand on. Now, if you don't mind, let's continue with the anti-Jew tirades since they are so much more to the point.

So the moral ease in which they can lie to a white gentile is the same as the ease in which i can compare a negro to a monkeyT.N.B.

WOW thats amazing. If only we could get this indoctrination on camera. Suppose we could find a jew forum where they have such discussions (a hebrew dictionary would come in use)>

You can catch the indocrination on the nightly telly. In near every show, including the "news", the jew is exalted and elevated, the niggers "understood" and the Aryan castigated.

You can catch the indocrination on the nightly telly. In near every show, including the "news", the jew is exalted and elevated, the niggers "understood" and the Aryan castigated.

Boooo-fucking-hooooo!!!! The blacks are sooo bad but those evil jews blame it on us, whites. It's unfair !!!!!

It's amazing how you people don't see what a bunch of fucking cry-babies you really are. Devicing the most elaborate conspiracy theories to deal with your failed lifes just as long as it isn't your own fault.

I dare you to the name shows that castigate the aryan and I will name as many shows that castigate blacks, asians, jews....whatever.

Until then, piss off you stupid cunt!

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Why should we believe you. You Jews evolved in the desert which lacked water. As the water could not be shared between everyone, only the most ruthless liars could survive to take the water. As you spawn from one of those survivors, it would be scientific of me to say that you are lying to us right now.

You don't have to believe me - read his own words.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/leuchter-consent-agreement/

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The Board of Registration of Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors (the "Board") and Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., do hereby stipulate and agree to the following:

I, Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., do hereby state:


1. that I am not and never have been registered as a professional engineer with "the Board" pursuant to M.G.L. C. 112, a. 81D-T;

2. that while in Massachusetts and while unregistered as a professional engineer, I have:

a. represented myself as an engineer able to consult in areas of engineering concerning execution technology; moreover, I formed a corporation which one of the purposes was to consult in all areas of engineering;
b. represented myself as Chief Engineer of Fred A. Leuchter Associates, Inc., a Massachusetts Corporation, in letters to Massachusetts businesses and Federal and State departments and agencies, including Alpha Analytical Laboratories, Ace Surgical Inc., Massachusetts Division of Food and Drug, and the Federal Drug Enforcement Agency;
c. represented myself as Chief Engineer in letters and proposals I sent to correctional institutions in other states, including, but not limited to, New Jersey and Alabama;
d. represented myself as Chief Engineer and have rendered engineering opinions in letters and affidavits which I have submitted for filing in state and federal courts outside of Massachusetts; and
e. produced reports, specifically but not limited to, "An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Gas Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek", containing my engineering opinions. which I have submitted to other individuals and which were subsequently published.

I, Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., agree to immediately cease and desist from the following, while I am in Massachusetts and remain unregistered pursuant to G.L. c. 112, a. 81D-T:

1. using in any manner whatsoever the title "engineer",
2. Offering to practice engineering by verbal claim, sign, advertisement, letterhead, card, or in any other way represent myself to be an engineer, or in any other way offer to practice engineering as defined in G.L. c 112 while in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
3. Practicing engineering as defined in G. L. c. 112. s 81D-T while in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
4. Issuing or distributing any reports where I hold myself out as an engineer or alternatively, provide engineering specifically but not limited to "An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Gas Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek."

I, Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., further agree that in the event I wish to pursue any professional activity within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts which comes within the purview of the Board, I will seek the Board's determination as to whether that activity is prohibited by G.L, c, 112, s. 81D-T or this consent decree.

I dare you to the name shows that castigate the aryan and I will name as many shows that castigate blacks, asians, jews....whatever.

Until then, piss off you stupid cunt!

68

Well, I can start with ABC network and go on down the list. You know well what I am talking about.

I seriously doubt that you can name a show on American national telly that castigate juden,

Daily, 24/7 and starting with the cartoons folks sit their children in front of the telly to watch in the morning and afternoon, the White American, or Aryan is shown in the worst possible light.

No race is immune to kike scorn, either. So in that light, you are right about other races. Only the exalted jew is held in reverence. Your propaganda is everywhere.

that I am not and never have been registered as a professional engineer with "the Board" pursuant to M.G.L. C. 112, a. 81D-T;


This dumb-ass-slamin is getting lower and lower with every post :rofl

A healthy man is usually trying very hard to avoid any "registration" in ZOG.
One more proof of the integrity of Fred Leuchter :p


JOKE

An engineer, ein mathematician und ein physicist are assembled around a swastika flag pole in Auschwitz and discuss it's height.
Every one of the idiotic "registered" expert in his field tries to find a formula
to determine the length of the flag pole.
An non-registered citizen, passing by and feeling sorry for the idiotic experts
takes the flagpole out of the shaft and lowers it into the grass, takes a measuring tape and says: "the length of the flag pole is seven meter!".

But the three "registered" idiotic scientists declare: "we were not trying to determine the length but the height!!!".

Up until this day the height of the Auschwitz flag pole has not been determined.
It is even seen as an antisemitic activity to solve this problem and truth seekers and can be punished to many years in prison.　

Boooo-fucking-hooooo!!!! The blacks are sooo bad but those evil jews blame it on us, whites. It's unfair !!!!!

It's amazing how you people don't see what a bunch of fucking cry-babies you really are. Devicing the most elaborate conspiracy theories to deal with your failed lifes just as long as it isn't your own fault.

I dare you to the name shows that castigate the aryan and I will name as many shows that castigate blacks, asians, jews....whatever.

Until then, piss off you stupid cunt! 88

Sorry, Jew-Boy, you would lose that one, too. You can make the dare, but you dare not follow through because any number of VNN'ers could show what a bragging BS fool you really are. I don't watch much TV so I would leave it to others to kick your ass. I only catch a few shows here and there when I visit friends who have the Jew-Tube on. But the fine and intelligent lady whom you have insulted, will kick your ass, if you take your own dare. But you are probably the average cowardly Jew that flaps his big mouth and then runs away.

So, let's see if you can hold your baggles. You can't name ANY shows that castigate Jews. All shows present these scumbags as "intelligent" or "witty" or "funny" or "wise", not the low life devils that Jews really are.

Jews From Their Lips #4

So, let's see what you can say. Name a show the shows the Jews for the assholes that you really are.

This dumb-ass-slamin is getting lower and lower with every post :rofl

A healthy man is usually trying very hard to avoid any "registration" in ZOG.
One more proof of the integrity of Fred Leuchter :p

Tuisto = if you had a brain, you'd still be an idiot.

Shit head - he majored in history, never took an engineering class - not ONE class.

He never did engineering work, never built a gas chamber - so how is he an engineer, because he says he is?

Tuisto = if you had a brain, you'd still be an idiot.
Shit head - he majored in history, never took an engineering class - not ONE class.
He never did engineering work, never built a gas chamber - so how is he an engineer, because he says he is?

My previous post does not make any sense without the "major" part (which you omitted to quote) my "JOKE".

I never took a "class" for old Greek, but learned it as an "extern", with a classmate who finished his Greek baccalaureat with summa cum laude.
I was above average on the final test without having taken one single class.

Now who is the idiot here?

Concerning evaluation of effectiv "gas chambers", common sense and experience is more important than taking a "class".

I changed one word in the following joke.
Please ass slamin read it carefully and tell me, if you get the joke this time!
I will replace "non registered citizen" with "a person who had majored in history"...


JOKE

An engineer, a mathematician und a physicist are assembled around a swastika flag pole in Auschwitz and discuss it's height.
Everyone of the idiotic "registered" experts in his field tries to find a formula
to determine the length of the flag pole.
A person who had majored in history, passing by and feeling sorry for the idiotic experts takes the flagpole out of the shaft and lowers it into the grass, takes a measuring tape and says: "the length of the flag pole is seven meter!".

But the three "registered" idiotic scientists declare: "we were not trying to determine the length but the height!!!".Up until this day the height of the Auschwitz flag pole has not been determined.
It is even seen as an antisemitic activity to solve this problem and truth seekers and can be punished to many years in prison.

Tuisto = if you had a brain, you'd still be an idiot.

Shit head - he majored in history, never took an engineering class - not ONE class.

He never did engineering work, never built a gas chamber - so how is he an engineer, because he says he is?

Jews are such rotten frauds. You want to swindle the world of Truth with your Talmudic darkness and blind ignorance, don't you? Not that I care what you think because if I had my way, you would be testing out the gas chamber theory first-hand by being locked in one with all the poison vents open. But because you insist on using Jewish methods of character assassination on Fred Leuchter instead of using simple common sense and scientific evidence, and since you might convince some Reader that you are right when in fact you are a sophistic moron, I will put a little bit more time into this thread even though you have already been demolished by others.

Okay, let's assume that you are right. Let's assume that Fred Leuchter did not have a license to practice Engineering in the state of Massachusetts. And so because he didn't have a license, then this invalides all of his discoveries that the entire Jewish-gas-chamber stories are an impossible lie. Does that satisfy you and your Jewish friends, that all of Fred Leuchter's discoveries are automatically invalidated because he did not a have a license to practice engineering in the state of Massachusetts? After all, that's your goal, isn't it, to invalidate his discoveries based upon a legal technicality?

Now, by using your stupid kind of fraudulent, Talmudic, Jewish "reasoning" it must also be true in other cases, too. Right? People who do not have a state license and state permission to practice something means that whatever they practice is invalid, no matter how expert they are at what they do, right?

For example, the Wright Brothers were not aeronaughtical engineers, they were bicycle makers. Therefore, according to you, they were frauds and all of the airplanes flying today should immediately be pulled from the skies and destroyed because they were invented by someone who was not qualified to invent airplanes since they were not licensed aireonaughtical engineers. Right?

Also, van Leewenhook, was not a microbiologist. He was only a lens grinder. And when his little lenses in a tube showed a tiny world of swimming creatures in a water drop, he founded the science of microbiology. So, according to Jewish thinking of such matters, all books and laboratories should immediately be destroyed and all the sick people in the world who are suffering from infectious diseases should immediately be given leeches and amulets to ward off the demons, instead of antibiotics, simply because van Leewenhook was not licensed by the state as a microbiologist.

Galileo was not an astrophysicist nor was he an astronomer. So, by your stupid Jewishness, you must of course insist that not only is the world flat but that all of the stars and planets revolve around the earth. "Oy, it must be so because Galileo was not licensed by the state with a certificate claiming that he was qualified to practice astronomy." Right?

Alexander Graham Bell was not a licensed communications engineer. He was a teacher of the deaf. So, of course, with your fantastic Jewish "reasoning", all of the telephones and computer speakers, all of the cell phones and sterophonic boomboxes must immediately be recalled by the government and destroyed because Bell did not have a license granted by the state giving him the "legal right" to practice communications engineering. Right?

These are only a couple of examples but the list could go on long enough that you would die of old age before exhausting it. But I am sure that even a stupid Jew like you gets the idea. There are myriads of people who do excellent jobs at their professions without having the all-mighty Big Brother of the State giving them licenses (with the accompanying license fees to be paid yearly).

The agenda of the kikenvermin is to discredit Fred Leuchter so as to discredit his discoveries that prove that the Jews are liars. That the Jews use all manner of fraudulent methods in their efforts only proves how very corrupt that they are. An honest man when confronted with a legal matter, uses legal and honest methods to defend himself. But a criminal, when confronted with legal matters, uses every conceivable method both legal and illegal, to defend himself. That the Jews' first choice is slander, lies, defamation, false reasoning, physical threats, false evidence, perjury, threatening of witnesses, destruction of livelihood, and a long list of criminal ways, only shows how thoroughly corrupt and evil the Jews are. Hypocrites that they are, even while accusing others of fraud, they are practicing the greatest of frauds themselves.

No Jew ever won an honest debate on any subject. And Slamin2, is no exception. It is not within the Jews' mentality to use honest methods if they can see an opportunity to win by cheating.

Slamin2 is just a typical Jew, full of himself.

Boooo-fucking-hooooo!!!! The blacks are sooo bad but those evil jews blame it on us, whites. It's unfair !!!!!

It's amazing how you people don't see what a bunch of fucking cry-babies you really are. Devicing the most elaborate conspiracy theories to deal with your failed lifes just as long as it isn't your own fault.

I dare you to the name shows that castigate the aryan and I will name as many shows that castigate blacks, asians, jews....whatever.

Until then, piss off you stupid cunt!

68

Ratty, you're drooling at both ends.

Jews are such rotten frauds. You want to swindle the world of Truth with your Talmudic darkness and blind ignorance, don't you? Not that I care what you think because if I had my way, you would be testing out the gas chamber theory first-hand by being locked in one with all the poison vents open. But because you insist on using Jewish methods of character assassination on Fred Leuchter instead of using simple common sense and scientific evidence, and since you might convince some Reader that you are right when in fact you are a sophistic moron, I will put a little bit more time into this thread even though you have already been demolished by others.

Okay, let's assume that you are right. Let's assume that Fred Leuchter did not have a license to practice Engineering in the state of Massachusetts. And so because he didn't have a license, then this invalides all of his discoveries that the entire Jewish-gas-chamber stories are an impossible lie. Does that satisfy you and your Jewish friends, that all of Fred Leuchter's discoveries are automatically invalidated because he did not a have a license to practice engineering in the state of Massachusetts? After all, that's your goal, isn't it, to invalidate his discoveries based upon a legal technicality?

Now, by using your stupid kind of fraudulent, Talmudic, Jewish "reasoning" it must also be true in other cases, too. Right? People who do not have a state license and state permission to practice something means that whatever they practice is invalid, no matter how expert they are at what they do, right?

For example, the Wright Brothers were not aeronaughtical engineers, they were bicycle makers. Therefore, according to you, they were frauds and all of the airplanes flying today should immediately be pulled from the skies and destroyed because they were invented by someone who was not qualified to invent airplanes since they were not licensed aireonaughtical engineers. Right?

Also, van Leewenhook, was not a microbiologist. He was only a lens grinder. And when his little lenses in a tube showed a tiny world of swimming creatures in a water drop, he founded the science of microbiology. So, according to Jewish thinking of such matters, all books and laboratories should immediately be destroyed and all the sick people in the world who are suffering from infectious diseases should immediately be given leeches and amulets to ward off the demons, instead of antibiotics, simply because van Leewenhook was not licensed by the state as a microbiologist.

Galileo was not an astrophysicist nor was he an astronomer. So, by your stupid Jewishness, you must of course insist that not only is the world flat but that all of the stars and planets revolve around the earth. "Oy, it must be so because Galileo was not licensed by the state with a certificate claiming that he was qualified to practice astronomy." Right?

Alexander Graham Bell was not a licensed communications engineer. He was a teacher of the deaf. So, of course, with your fantastic Jewish "reasoning", all of the telephones and computer speakers, all of the cell phones and sterophonic boomboxes must immediately be recalled by the government and destroyed because Bell did not have a license granted by the state giving him the "legal right" to practice communications engineering. Right?

These are only a couple of examples but the list could go on long enough that you would die of old age before exhausting it. But I am sure that even a stupid Jew like you gets the idea. There are myriads of people who do excellent jobs at their professions without having the all-mighty Big Brother of the State giving them licenses (with the accompanying license fees to be paid yearly).

The agenda of the kikenvermin is to discredit Fred Leuchter so as to discredit his discoveries that prove that the Jews are liars. That the Jews use all manner of fraudulent methods in their efforts only proves how very corrupt that they are. An honest man when confronted with a legal matter, uses legal and honest methods to defend himself. But a criminal, when confronted with legal matters, uses every conceivable method both legal and illegal, to defend himself. That the Jews' first choice is slander, lies, defamation, false reasoning, physical threats, false evidence, perjury, threatening of witnesses, destruction of livelihood, and a long list of criminal ways, only shows how thoroughly corrupt and evil the Jews are. Hypocrites that they are, even while accusing others of fraud, they are practicing the greatest of frauds themselves.

No Jew ever won an honest debate on any subject. And Slamin2, is no exception. It is not within the Jews' mentality to use honest methods if they can see an opportunity to win by cheating.

Slamin2 is just a typical Jew, full of himself.

You have stated eloquently that which I had thought when I first read the jew's cut and paste hatchet job.

As fars I'm concerned, jews need to register as sentient beings and apply for a licence to breathe; before they are allowed to express an opinion on anything.

My previous post does not make any sense without the "major" part (which you omitted to quote) my "JOKE".

I never took a "class" for old Greek, but learned it as an "extern", with a classmate who finished his Greek baccalaureat with summa cum laude.
I was above average on the final test without having taken one single class.

Now who is the idiot here?

Concerning evaluation of effectiv "gas chambers", common sense and experience is more important than taking a "class".

I changed one word in the following joke.
Please ass slamin read it carefully and tell me, if you get the joke this time!
I will replace "non registered citizen" with "a person who had majored in history"...


JOKE

Up until this day the height of the Auschwitz flag pole has not been determined.
It is even seen as an antisemitic activity to solve this problem and truth seekers and can be punished to many years in prison.


Hey tuisto, I'm not qualified or registered as a psychiatrist and I don't speak retard too well, but I can make an educated guess that you're a fucking dumbo.

Have you not seen the various photos of the holocaust? And you find it hard to believe that jews were gassed?

http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/#PHoH

23 year old girl who thinks she knows it all. No doubt brainwashed like Prussian Blue were by that whore called April Gaede. She sure gaede up her daughters. :p

Armchair POS nazi. Fuck right off, Cuntess.

What a dumb ass you are, piles of shoes and glasses prove nothing, and pictures of soviet troops excuting jews does not back up your theory. Also all the bodies of the people in a pile are emaciated and thin; these were not jews who were jerked off the street and gassed. And 6 million bullets would have been cheaper and faster than gas chambers, ESPECIALLY when Germans were fighting wars on 4 fronts and fuel was in short supply. Holy fuck! A german cutting a jews beard? Genocide itz!

You would think with 6 million bodies to be burned, there would have been whole training films for this in the German army, or at the very least progress reports.

The holocaust is a sham. Anne Frank dying in the infirmary (why would you need an infirmary for jews you were burning like firewood?) and Helie Weasel and his fabrications are enough proof of this being a scam to me.

bla bla bal

Okay, let's assume that you are right. Let's assume that Fred Leuchter did not have a license to practice Engineering in the state of Massachusetts.


There is no assumption - he did not have a license to practice Engineering - its a fact.


And so because he didn't have a license, then this invalides all of his discoveries that the entire Jewish-gas-chamber stories are an impossible lie.


When you validate his study based on his credentials you make his credentials relevant to the discussion. This is basic logic. If he does not have the credentials, references to his credentials should be dropped from your argument.


Does that satisfy you and your Jewish friends, that all of Fred Leuchter's discoveries are automatically invalidated because he did not a have a license to practice engineering in the state of Massachusetts? After all, that's your goal, isn't it, to invalidate his discoveries based upon a legal technicality?


No the goal is the truth - right? Isn't that your goal?


Now, by using your stupid kind of fraudulent, Talmudic, Jewish "reasoning" it must also be true in other cases, too. Right? People who do not have a state license and state permission to practice something means that whatever they practice is invalid, no matter how expert they are at what they do, right?

For example, the Wright Brothers were not aeronaughtical engineers, they were bicycle makers. Therefore, according to you, they were frauds and all of the airplanes flying today should immediately be pulled from the skies and destroyed because they were invented by someone who was not qualified to invent airplanes since they were not licensed aireonaughtical engineers. Right?


When did the Wright Brothers CLAIM to be aeronaughtical engineers and provide expert reports based on that qualification?


Also, van Leewenhook, was not a microbiologist. He was only a lens grinder. And when his little lenses in a tube showed a tiny world of swimming creatures in a water drop, he founded the science of microbiology. So, according to Jewish thinking of such matters, all books and laboratories should immediately be destroyed and all the sick people in the world who are suffering from infectious diseases should immediately be given leeches and amulets to ward off the demons, instead of antibiotics, simply because van Leewenhook was not licensed by the state as a microbiologist.


When did Leewenhook claim to be a microbiologist and produce an expert report or professional writing making this claim?


Galileo was not an astrophysicist nor was he an astronomer. So, by your stupid Jewishness, you must of course insist that not only is the world flat but that all of the stars and planets revolve around the earth. "Oy, it must be so because Galileo was not licensed by the state with a certificate claiming that he was qualified to practice astronomy." Right?


When did Galileo claim to be an astrophysicist or an astronomer and provide expert or professional writings claiming such?


Alexander Graham Bell was not a licensed communications engineer. He was a teacher of the deaf. So, of course, with your fantastic Jewish "reasoning", all of the telephones and computer speakers, all of the cell phones and sterophonic boomboxes must immediately be recalled by the government and destroyed because Bell did not have a license granted by the state giving him the "legal right" to practice communications engineering. Right?


When did Alexander Graham Bell claim to be a licensed communications engineer?


These are only a couple of examples but the list could go on long enough that you would die of old age before exhausting it. But I am sure that even a stupid Jew like you gets the idea. There are myriads of people who do excellent jobs at their professions without having the all-mighty Big Brother of the State giving them licenses (with the accompanying license fees to be paid yearly).


Leuchter appeared in a court of law with a document entitled "The Leuchter Report: An Engineering Report on the Alleged Execution Chambers at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek Poland" - he signed the document as Chief Engineer.

Do you see the quagmire here?

LEUCHTER CLAIMED to be a chief engineer and to offer an engineering opinion.

He was not an engineer, had no engineering education, not ONE class.

That is fraud - period.




bla bla bla

Slamin2 is just a typical Jew, full of himself.

More Nazi bullshit.

When someone claims to be a professional and offers a professional opinion, he makes his credentials part of the discussion. If Leuchter had offered an laymans observations, his claimed credentials would not be an issue.

Why is this an issue? I've never fathomed this argument.

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right?

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The mind of a jew is a veritable steel trap. :rolleyes:

Hey tuisto, I'm not qualified or registered as a psychiatrist and I don't speak retard too well, but I can make an educated guess that you're a fucking dumbo.

I know.
Psychiatry is a jew thing.
Another word for Vodoo with scientific credentials.
An "educated expert" with "authority".

Every gentile is a "retard" in a jew's mind.

Point out cosmetic imperfections such as syntax or orthography and you are right at Mossad's logo: "By way of deception".

"Classes"& "Certificats" try to invalidate the functional by replacing it with the superficial/decorativ.

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The mind of a jew is a veritable steel trap. :rolleyes:

What the fuck was that? You get drunk or something?

There is no assumption - he did not have a license to practice Engineering - its a fact....
When someone claims to be a professional and offers a professional opinion, he makes his credentials part of the discussion. If Leuchter had offered an laymans observations, his claimed credentials would not be an issue.

Why is this an issue? I've never fathomed this argument.

Please offer your credentials proving that you are qualified to pass judgement on someone who is more qualified than you are. I doubt that someone with a degree from the Squirming Kike Yeshiva is qualified to have an engineering opinion on anything. How are you more qualified than Fred Leuchter to understand engineering problems? Hmm?

Typical jew bullshit, when they can't win an arguement, change the subject or start name calling.

You lose jewboy, go back to Stormfront.

Your not gonna get away with this shit here, got it hooknose.

Apparently you need an engineering degree to do simple simple General Chemistry calculations and state the obvious. Interesting.

Please offer your credentials proving that you are qualified to pass judgement on someone who is more qualified than you are. I doubt that someone with a degree from the Squirming Kike Yeshiva is qualified to have an engineering opinion on anything. How are you more qualified than Fred Leuchter to understand engineering problems? Hmm?

I never claimed to be qualified to render an engineering opinion. Thus I would not write one, nor would I sign my name with a title I did not earn.

Still don't understand this do you? When you have a medical problem, do you go see a doctor or do you ask the gas station attendant for his diagnosis?

Typical jew bullshit, when they can't win an arguement, change the subject or start name calling.

You lose jewboy, go back to Stormfront.

Your not gonna get away with this shit here, got it hooknose.

If you do not see the irony of your post, you are more stupid then Billy Bob. :rofl

I never claimed to be qualified to render an engineering opinion. Thus I would not write one, nor would I sign my name with a title I did not earn.

Still don't understand this do you? When you have a medical problem, do you go see a doctor or do you ask the gas station attendant for his diagnosis?

Hey ass slamin, you forgot:

when you have a sexual problem go and see a prostitute!

Beware of jew insinuators like ass-slamin!

(There is not such a thing as "a doctor" and it would in fact be better in many instances to keep a doctor away as far as possible :p)


Leuchter is not just "a doctor", but an expert in his field.

FROM APPROXIMATELY 1979 through 1988, Fred Leuchter had worked with most of the states in the United States that carried out capital punishment. He specialized in the design and manufacture of execution equipment including electrocution systems, lethal injection equipment, gallows, and gas chamber hardware.

Bill Armontrout, Warden of the Missouri State Penitentiary named Fred Leuchter as the only consultant in the United States in the design, operation, and maintenance of gas chambers during his testimony at the Zündel Trial.

Leuchter was a perfect choice, he was the only expert on execution gas chambers in the United States and he believed in the Nazi Genocide of the Jews. Mr. Leuchter writes, " Like all American children born during and after World War II, I was taught about the genocide perpetrated by the Nazi's on the Jews. By the time I had reached college, I had no reason to disbelieve any of my education." (Leuchter Report: The How and Why p. 133, hereafter LR:H&W)

Leuchter has written, "Categorically, none of the facilities examined at Auschwitz, Birkenau or Lublin could have supported, or in fact did support, multiple executions utilizing hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide or any other allegedly or factually lethal gas." (LR:H&W p. 138).

Leuchter writes in his famous report, "the author finds no evidence that any of the facilities normally alleged to be execution gas chambers were ever used as such and finds, further, that because of the design and fabrication of these facilities, they could not have been utilized for execution gas chambers." (The Leuchter Report: Focal Point Edition p.10)

Judge Ron Thomas decided that Leuchter was qualified as an expert in the design, construction, maintenance, and operation of gas chambers. Leuchter was allowed to give his opinions on the operation and suitability of the various facilities to function as execution gas chambers.

, "Fred A. Leuchter Jr. a consultant to 16 states on execution, holding a helmet used in electrocutions." Although none of these appearances or articles were in regard to The Leuchter Report, The New York Times briefly mentioned Leuchter's testimony in the article claiming, "The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith revealed that Mr. Leuchter, testifying for a neo-Nazi group in a Canadian trial, had called Hitler's extermination of Jews in gas chambers a myth. Mr. Leuchter says he is no Nazi sympathizer and was simply speaking as an expert witness." The attack had begun.

Fred Leuchter explained the attack as follows, "A five pronged-attack has been initiated against me...depriving me of my civil rights and the right to make a living at my chosen profession. This had consisted of the following:

"Political threats to prison officials who choose to deal with me.
Vilification by private contacts as well as in newsprint and on television.
Legislation to prohibit my working at my profession.
Criminal prosecution for working at my profession.
Lies spread by public officials, both officially and privately." (Witch Hunt in Boston p.455)



The situation only worsened for Leuchter. In his speech given to the Eleventh IHR conference in October of 1992 he told of his imprisonment by the German government. But still, with lack of funds, lack of work, a slandered name, Leuchter would not renounce his study, " Although my findings will ultimately be accepted by all, I still have no contracts, have been unable to find work and have no income."

Hey ass slamin, you forgot:

when you have a sexual problem go and see a prostitute!


Are you telling us you have a sexual problem - is it the she males that have you enticed? Warm cock up the old dirt road your style?



Beware of jew insinuators like ass-slamin!

(There is not such a thing as "a doctor" and it would in fact be better in many instances to keep a doctor away as far as possible :p)


Leuchter is not just "a doctor", but an expert in his field.

FROM APPROXIMATELY 1979 through 1988, Fred Leuchter had worked with most of the states in the United States that carried out capital punishment. He specialized in the design and manufacture of execution equipment including electrocution systems, lethal injection equipment, gallows, and gas chamber hardware.


Name the states or your statement is meaningless.


Bill Armontrout, Warden of the Missouri State Penitentiary named Fred Leuchter as the only consultant in the United States in the design, operation, and maintenance of gas chambers during his testimony at the Zündel Trial.

Leuchter was a perfect choice, he was the only expert on execution gas chambers in the United States and he believed in the Nazi Genocide of the Jews. Mr. Leuchter writes, " Like all American children born during and after World War II, I was taught about the genocide perpetrated by the Nazi's on the Jews. By the time I had reached college, I had no reason to disbelieve any of my education." (Leuchter Report: The How and Why p. 133, hereafter LR:H&W)

Leuchter has written, "Categorically, none of the facilities examined at Auschwitz, Birkenau or Lublin could have supported, or in fact did support, multiple executions utilizing hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide or any other allegedly or factually lethal gas." (LR:H&W p. 138).

Leuchter writes in his famous report, (The Leuchter Report: Focal Point Edition p.10)

Judge Ron Thomas decided that Leuchter was qualified as an expert in the design, construction, maintenance, and operation of gas chambers. Leuchter was allowed to give his opinions on the operation and suitability of the various facilities to function as execution gas chambers.

, "Fred A. Leuchter Jr. a consultant to 16 states on execution, holding a helmet used in electrocutions." Although none of these appearances or articles were in regard to The Leuchter Report, The New York Times briefly mentioned Leuchter's testimony in the article claiming, "The Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith revealed that Mr. Leuchter, testifying for a neo-Nazi group in a Canadian trial, had called Hitler's extermination of Jews in gas chambers a myth. Mr. Leuchter says he is no Nazi sympathizer and was simply speaking as an expert witness." The attack had begun.

Fred Leuchter explained the attack as follows, "A five pronged-attack has been initiated against me...depriving me of my civil rights and the right to make a living at my chosen profession. This had consisted of the following:

(Witch Hunt in Boston p.455)



The situation only worsened for Leuchter. In his speech given to the Eleventh IHR conference in October of 1992 he told of his imprisonment by the German government. But still, with lack of funds, lack of work, a slandered name, Leuchter would not renounce his study,

Specifically, name ONE gas chamber that was ever in use that Leuchter made or desinged.

Just one.

Then explain to me how a gas chamber desinged to kill only one person at a time, under the tightest scrutiny, compares to Auchwitz.

Hell, skip the last part - name one gas chamber he designed, just one.

I'll wait.

Prepare to eat you words.

Point out the parts where actual complicated knowledge of engineering is required, all I see is rudimentary understandings of chemistry and the scientific method.

Point out where you see wording or thematics that would require esoteric knowledge and specific terminology that one would NOT learn within the first year of Chemistry. This means that Gas Laws and Rate Laws are not game, sorry = ) . Also subjects such as standards for gas chambers in USA- thats not that hard to find, if a person really wanted to know they could easily find out.

Now try to actually have a bite at the argument

Bunkers I and II are described in Auschwitz State Museum literature as converted farm houses with several chambers and windows sealed. These do not exist in their original condition and were not inspected. Kremas I, II, III, IV and V are described historically and on inspection were verified to have been converted mortuaries or morgues connected and housed in the same facility as crematories. The on-site inspection of these structures indicated extremely poor and dangerous design for these facilities if they were to have served as execution gas chambers. There is no provision for gasketed doors, windows or vents; the structures are not coated with tar or other sealant to prevent leakage or absorption of the gas. the adjacent crematories are a potential danger of explosion.
Explain why there are no provisions or sealants.

The exposed porous brick and mortar would accumulate the HCN and make these facilities dangerous to humans for several years. Krema I is adjacent to the S.S. Hospital at Auschwitz and has floor drains connected to the main sewer of the camp -- which would allow gas into every building at the facility. There were no exhaust systems to vent the gas after usage and no heaters or dispersal mechanisms for the Zyklon B to be introduced or evaporated. The Zyklon B was supposedly dropped through roof vents and put in through windows -- not allowing for even distribution of gas or pellets. The facilities are always damp and not heated. As stated earlier, dampness and Zyklon B are not compatible.
Explain why this place is considered a protected historic site yet it neither has means of heating the Zyklon B nor the proper internal environment.



The chambers are too small to physically contain the occupants claimed and the doors all open inward, a situation which would inhibit removal of the bodies. With the chambers fully packed with occupants, there would be no circulation of the HCN within the room. Additionally, if the gas eventually did fill the chamber over a lengthy time period, those throwing Zyklon B in the roof vents and verifying the death of the occupants would die themselves from exposure to HCN. None of the alleged gas chambers were constructed in accordance with the design for delousing chambers which were effectively operating for years in a safe manner. None of these chambers were constructed in accordance with the known and proven designs of facilities operational in the United States at that time. It seems unusual that the presumed designers of these alleged gas chambers never consulted or considered the United States technology; the only country then executing prisoners with gas.

Explain why they were so poorly constructed.


Go.

Extra Credit #1 : Explain how one would go about cleaning up this mess.
Would they use space-age suits with an internal air supply? :rofl
Don't you think it'd be easier to just load em with bullets? Cheaper and less work, Hamas seems to find no need in switching tactics and it does away with its enemies quite well.

Extra Credit #2: Explain how the gas would be ventilated rapidly, did they use some sort of cool vacuum?

Extra Credit #3: Why bother with CO2/CO gas when you can just leave the people in there to suffocate from doing it themselves?

I never claimed to be qualified to render an engineering opinion. Thus I would not write one, nor would I sign my name with a title I did not earn.

Still don't understand this do you? When you have a medical problem, do you go see a doctor or do you ask the gas station attendant for his diagnosis?

Since the Jews of the Medical Profession have been able to swindle the Western Peoples of approxiamtely 30% of our Gross National Product under the Jewish scam known as modern "Health Care", I would say your example is appropriate.

After all, what is better, go to a Jew doctor with his license to "practice" medicine on the wall and have your wealth stolen and your health destroyed or go to the local gas station attendant who is an expert in natural nutrition and practices Tai Chi Chuan and yogic breathing?

With all of their medical degrees and state-approved licenses, modern MD's are still quacks with their Freudian "psychology" and symptomatic medicine that treats symptoms but lets you keep the disease. Check out the cartoon, The Medical Swindle, in my signature for the entire Jewish Scam.

So, yes, your own example is very appropriate since it proves that merely having a degree approved by the state, is not a guarantee of excellence. In the same way, a state licensed elecrician or plumber does not guarantee that they are more competent that the local un-licensed handyman. That they passed a state licensing test and paid a fee to the state for the "privelege" only proves that they passed a state licensing test and paid a fee to the state -- a fee to be paid yearly forever.

And Fred Leuchter's expertise was certainly greater than that of the judge in the Ernst Zundel trial who declared that "truth is no defense" against the lies of the Jews. Rather odd, wouldn't you say, for this judge, who had a license to practice law, to declare that the lies of the Jews are supreme over truth? Such a judge is obviously incompetent to be on the bench even with his law degree.

Competence is measured by performance and knowledge. Fred Leuchter was both competent and knowledgeable and one of the very few experts in his field. A field, by-the-way, that does not have any licensing requirements because any "State Bureau for Execution Paraphenalia Licensing" (if such a one existed) would have only one customer per year to apply and that customer would be Fred Leuchter. He didn't need a license to do the work that he did -- all he needed was knowledge and expertise, which is what he had for the job.

As I said, no Jew has ever beaten an Aryan in any debate except when the Jew was able to cheat -- such as by bribing a judge -- or, in your case, attempting to use fallacious arguments and insisting that the fallacy be accepted.

Too bad, lost again, Jew. Thanks for providing your own rope. So, how do you want to eat your words? With chilis or matzso balls?

There is no assumption - he did not have a license to practice Engineering - its a fact.
Martin Lutha Kang lied about his degree (Which he didn't have because his work was invalid ) and his work (Which wasn't his) and as we can see he had plenty a Jew as a friend, not only but he got to keep his Doctor title even though it was proven he had plagiarized - such an act for even ONE line is punished severely, this nigger did one third of his whole paper and yet he still remains doctor after death.

The state committed this act thus solidifying the validity that if a statement is observed to be true by the State or people in general (In this case Jews in general) then a person is qualified by mere virtue of confidence in the subject. The person in question did his work fair and square and has proven to be competent on the subject - competent enough for a Bachelors degree easily.

He's valid simply because the state decided that it is valid to grant people titles merely for their show of competence. Thus your goal is to prove this person is incompetent and the only way to do so is to actually attack the argument. It has been months and you still have done little.

You cannot argue that MLK is an exception because then you are going against his principals now aren't you? If the nigger got a degree for the state agreeing with him then anyone can get a degree by virtue of a mass agreeing with them. Sorry but thats how it rolls. If you don't like it attack a person's point not their integrity, the degree is a piece of paper.

What the fuck was that? You get drunk or something?

And more questions. Subtlety: One cannot teach it to jews. Their bloated egos and pride makes it impossible for them to learn it. And, it certainly doesn't come natural to your tribe either.

No, I do not drink. Nor do I smoke or take drugs.

You really do not know why I quoted only the several question marks contained within your post. As I said, the mind [ and intellectual prowess] of a jew is a veritable steel trap.

Still don't understand this do you? When you have a medical problem, do you go see a doctor or do you ask the gas station attendant for his diagnosis?

No, I don't go to the doctors of which you talk, they are poison and prescribe poison.
Your comparison not only sucks, but is potentially dangerous for innocent readers.
That's why I added, another of your potentiell insinuations, which you might have forgotten to write down:
when you have a sexual problem go and see a prostitute!
(No jews - no prostitution)
And then I added:
Beware of jew insinuators like ass-slamin!

What's so hard to understand here?
Are you getting it this time throgh your thick head?

Specifically, name ONE gas chamber that was ever in use that Leuchter made or desinged.

As a pianist, do I have to built my own grand piano to be able to be applauded after a good performance? :rofl


Then explain to me how a gas chamber desinged to kill only one person at a time, under the tightest scrutiny, compares to [quote]Auchwitz.
Hell, skip the last part - name one gas chamber he designed, just one.

For the second time, let me tell you that "Auch Witz" means "A joke too" :rofl
You shovel your own grave all by yourself, shovel-nosed joo that you are! :rofl

Well, I can start with ABC network and go on down the list. You know well what I am talking about.

I seriously doubt that you can name a show on American national telly that castigate juden,

Daily, 24/7 and starting with the cartoons folks sit their children in front of the telly to watch in the morning and afternoon, the White American, or Aryan is shown in the worst possible light.

No race is immune to kike scorn, either. So in that light, you are right about other races. Only the exalted jew is held in reverence. Your propaganda is everywhere.


Sorry, Jew-Boy, you would lose that one, too. You can make the dare, but you dare not follow through because any number of VNN'ers could show what a bragging BS fool you really are. I don't watch much TV so I would leave it to others to kick your ass. I only catch a few shows here and there when I visit friends who have the Jew-Tube on. But the stupid cunt whom you have insulted, will kick your ass, if you take your own dare. But you are probably the average cowardly Jew that flaps his big mouth and then runs away.

So, let's see if you can hold your baggles. You can't name ANY shows that castigate Jews. All shows present these scumbags as "intelligent" or "witty" or "funny" or "wise", not the low life devils that Jews really are.

So, let's see what you can say. Name a show the shows the Jews for the assholes that you really are.

Nice try, dumbfucks but it doesn't work that way.
The dare was YOU name the shows that shows the whites in "the worst possible light" and I will name as many shows that castigates the other races and jews, oh no wait, just the jews. Because nobody else (not even the blacks who supposedly are henchmen of the jews ) is immune to jewish scorn.:confused:


Well, must be a piece of cake. Even for you asswipes. As you say, it's on tv 24/7.

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Now try to actually have a bite at the argument



I'll do your first quote and the extra credit - if you can conter, I'll consider the other quotes.:p


1) Bunkers I and II are described in Auschwitz State Museum literature as converted farm houses with several chambers and windows sealed. These do not exist in their original condition and were not inspected. Kremas I, II, III, IV and V are described historically and on inspection were verified to have been converted mortuaries or morgues connected and housed in the same facility as crematories.

2) The on-site inspection of these structures indicated extremely poor and dangerous design for these facilities if they were to have served as execution gas chambers. There is no provision for gasketed doors, windows or vents; the structures are not coated with tar or other sealant to prevent leakage or absorption of the gas.

3) the adjacent crematories are a potential danger of explosion.


Explain why there are no provisions or sealants.

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1) Kremas IV and V were almost completely destroyed, any inspection would not determine or confirm what they were.

2) With the exception of crematorium 1, the other four crematoria are merely rubble, a there is simply not enough evidence remaining to establish if there were, or not, the gasketed doors, windows or vents. Leuchter can not arrive at this conclusion by on-site inspection.

3) HLeuchter's reasoning was based on the fact that hydrogen cyanide is combustible, and that because the gas chambers were located not too far from the incineration ovens, there ought to have been a danger for explosion.

Yet during cross-examination Leuchter had to admit that hydrogen cyanide became combustible at 60,000 parts per million, and that it was lethal at 300 parts per million, that is at 0.5 percent of the combustion point.

Q.: "And I want to ask you about your answer to me. I said it takes a higher concentration of hydrogen cyanide to exterminate insects than it does to kill human beings. You said no. We go to the Degesch manual and it says that it requires twenty times as much to kill beetles as to kill rats and it takes three times as much to kill rats [than] it does to kill humans."
A.: "Maybe it depends upon the insects. Most of the work that I've been looking at, they've been killing lice and ticks. And their recommendation for general fumigation purposes is three thousand per million."
Q.: "What is twenty times 833 parts per million?"
A.: "What is twenty times 833 parts per million?"
Q.: "Right."
A.: "16,600."
Q.: "16,600. So what Degesch are saying, the people who make the product, is that if you want to kill beetles, you should have a concentration of--of what, sir?"
A.: "16,600, apparently."
Q.: "Right, And it takes three hundred parts per million to kill a human being in a matters of minutes?"
A.: "Or more."
Q.: "In a matter of minutes."
A.: "Twenty minutes, fifteen minutes, yes."
Q.: "Right. And here they're talking about a time of exposure from 2 to 72 hours, right?"
A.: "Right."
Q,: "Now, you gave us as a conclusion about the danger of explosion, didn't you?"
A.: "Yes."
Q.: "This was a big factor in your mind, this possibility of explosion. Did you look at the Degesch manual when it talked about inflammability?"
A.: "I'm looking at it now, counsellor."
Q.: "Page five?"
A.: "Yes."
Q.: "'Liquid HCN,' that is hydrocyanic acid, right?"
A.: "Correct."
Q.: "'... Burns like alcohol. Aaseous [H]CN forms an explosive mixture with air under certain conditions. The lower explosion limit, however, lies far above the concentration used in practical fumigation work.' So, they tell us that if we're going to exterminate beetles, we have to have a concentration of 16,600 and they tell us if we have a concentration of 16,600, the lower explosion limit lies far above that concentration."
A.: "The lower explosion limit is six per cent."
Q.: "And what's six percent?"
A,: "Six thousand."
Q,: "Isn't it sixty thousand, sir?"
A.: "Correct. Sixty thousand."
Q.: "Sixty thousand parts per million of air. Right?"
A.: "Correct, but you must understand that at the Zyklon-B material, when the gas is being given off, you have a percentage per volume of air of ninety to one hundred per cent. That means you have almost pure hydrogen cyanide at the carrier."
Q.: "At the point where the Zyklon-B is vapourizing, I agree, you have a ninety-nine per cent concentration level. But how far did you tell us these ovens were from the chamber we are talking about?"
A.: "150, 160 feet."
Q.: "And doesn't gas diffuse, sir?"
A.: "It may or it may not."
Q.: "And what would its concentration be 150 or 160 feet away?"
A.: "I have no idea and no one could answer that question for you."
Q.: "Right, you don't know, do you?"
A.: "Most people would tell you it's very dangerous."


Extra Credit #1 : Explain how one would go about cleaning up this mess.
Would they use space-age suits with an internal air supply? :rofl
Don't you think it'd be easier to just load em with bullets? Cheaper and less work, Hamas seems to find no need in switching tactics and it does away with its enemies quite well.


There is no need for air supply, workers in the crematoriums wore gas masks. Bullets were not the option used here, woulda coulda shoulda is not an argument.


Extra Credit #2: Explain how the gas would be ventilated rapidly, did they use some sort of cool vacuum?


There was a ventilation system.


Extra Credit #3: Why bother with CO2/CO gas when you can just leave the people in there to suffocate from doing it themselves

They did not use CO2 gas the used HCN at Auchwitz.

The dare was YOU name the shows that shows the whites in "the worst possible light" and I will name as many shows that castigates the other races and jews, oh no wait, just the jews. Because nobody else (not even the blacks who supposedly are henchmen of the jews ) is immune to jewish scorn.


Well, must be a piece of cake. Even for you asswipes. As you say, it's on tv 24/7.

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It is a 'piece of cake', kike. You want a list produced so then you can go to some leftie site and find a list of "White privilege" shows. And, then post it and state ..."What's this, then".

Well, my evidence is the nightly news, on any given channel, internationally, nationally and local. For starters.

You juden are so damned predictable.

It is a 'piece of cake', kike. You want a list produced so then you can go to some leftie site and find a list of "White privilege" shows. And, then post it and state ..."What's this, then".

Well, my evidence is the nightly news, on any given channel, internationally, nationally and local. For starters.

You juden are so damned predictable.

And you wn are so full of shit. It's a simple question, yet you refuse to answer it. You were sooooo sure that I wouldn't find a show to prove you wrong. Now you say I can find a whole list of them on the internet?
If you had balls you'd take the dare. But hey, you have no balls.
You're just a stupid cunt.

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The Holocaust didn't happen because proud white White people said it didn't, so FUCK OFF

And you wn are so full of shit. It's a simple question, yet you refuse to answer it. You were sooooo sure that I wouldn't find a show to prove you wrong. Now you say I can find a whole list of them on the internet?
If you had balls you'd take the dare. But hey, you have no balls.
You're just a stupid cunt.

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I gave you a list, The Nightly News on any American channel then. Local, national. Is that too non-specific for you to understand, jew. I am not "so sure"; but, it has been my experience when dealing with kikes that they will only debate that with which they are comfortable. Remove a jew from it's 'comfort zone' and they start yelling "holocaust" and anti-semite.

So, I'm pretty certain that you have a list of specific shows already that you would think would buttress your argument, such as it is.

I am waiting. I have offered you the Nightly News in America, take your pick which network; there's little difference, it's all the same media anyways.

I'll do your first quote and the extra credit - if you can conter, I'll consider the other quotes.:p


Explain why there are no provisions or sealants.

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1) Kremas IV and V were almost completely destroyed, any inspection would not determine or confirm what they were.

2) With the exception of crematorium 1, the other four crematoria are merely rubble, a there is simply not enough evidence remaining to establish if there were, or not, the gasketed doors, windows or vents. Leuchter can not arrive at this conclusion by on-site inspection.
You mean to say that neither a generator or an intake fan were found among any of this rubble, and not even the one that remained standing? No sealant material to reproduce in the real chamber?

You've just admitted that there was no evidence to think gassing took place period.

Here's what Leuchter said on this subject which adds up to what you said
"The alleged execution facilities in Auschwitz I (Krema I), and Majdanek still exist, in allegedly original form. In Birkenau, Kremas II, III, IV and V are collapsed or razed to the foundations; Bunker I (the Red House) is gone and Bunker II (the White House) is now restored and utilized as a private residence. At Majdanek, the first oil-fired crematory has been removed and the crematory with the alleged gas chamber has been rebuilt with only the ovens being original."

The claim is it's ORIGINAL.

3) HLeuchter's reasoning was based on the fact that hydrogen cyanide is combustible, and that because the gas chambers were located not too far from the incineration ovens, there ought to have been a danger for explosion.

Yet during cross-examination Leuchter had to admit that hydrogen cyanide became combustible at 60,000 parts per million, and that it was lethal at 300 parts per million, that is at 0.5 percent of the combustion point.

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You misread this part, he said that the constant absorption into the walls in the chamber and into the surrounding area would eventually produce an enormous explosion. It only requires one area to have that concentration of HCN to produce a chain reaction.




There is no need for air supply, workers in the crematoriums wore gas masks. Bullets were not the option used here, woulda coulda shoulda is not an argument.
Gas masks are nearly useless.

"The temperature of the walls and the air within the facility, and the intake air, must be kept at least 10 degrees above the boiling point of the hydrocyanic acid (78.3 degrees F) to prevent condensation of HCN on the walls, floor and ceiling of the facility, as well as in the exhaust system. If the temperature is below 79 degrees F and condensation occurs, the facility must be decontaminated with chlorine bleach or ammonia, the former being the most effective. This is accomplished by spraying the walls either automatically or manually. If done manually, protective suits (generally neoprene) must be worn and the technicians must utilize air breathing cylinders, as gas masks are unsafe and dangerous. The interior of the building must be evacuated longer to allow the chlorine bleach vapors to neutralize the liquid HCN in the exhaust system. The interior of the building must be washed with water and thoroughly mopped and dried before the next use."

A would have should have is a very effective method considering that the Germans didn't even take successful designs into consideration- namely the American gas chambers.



There was a ventilation system.
If you mean just a hole in the ceiling it would take anywhere from
a few days to a week to get the job done depending on how big the chamber is. Obviously the claim of millions becomes impossible.




They did not use CO2 gas the used HCN at Auchwitz.
But we agree that there was a claim where Diesel gas was used right?

Or rather a submarine engine

But really Slamin you said yourself that you disagree with putting people to the trial for an opinion they have. You agree with us that going to court over an opinion isn't in good faith right? Then how can you use a trial as good evidence? The trial itself is invalid, if you disagree with this then you are admitting that you think its reasonable to try people for opinions and use this against them. If it's invalid then nothing collected in court may be used against that person.

Nice try, dumbfucks but it doesn't work that way.
The dare was YOU name the shows that shows the whites in "the worst possible light" and I will name as many shows that castigates the other races and jews, oh no wait, just the jews. Because nobody else (not even the blacks who supposedly are henchmen of the jews ) is immune to jewish scorn.:confused:


Well, must be a piece of cake. Even for you asswipes. As you say, it's on tv 24/7.

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Okay, cry baby. Try this one. I saw it in a bar a couple of days ago. It shows low-lifes on skate boards. It's called "American Misfits".

Your turn.

You mean to say that neither a generator or an intake fan were found among any of this rubble, and not even the one that remained standing? No sealant material to reproduce in the real chamber?


What part of reduced to ruble do you not understand?


You've just admitted that there was no evidence to think gassing took place period.


There is no physical evidence that can be seen upon visual examination of the ruins that were purposely destroyed by the Germans. You do know that they took months to dismantle the crematoriums before destroying them right? I mean you are not totally ignorant on this subject are you?


Here's what Leuchter said on this subject which adds up to what you said
"The alleged execution facilities in Auschwitz I (Krema I), and Majdanek still exist, in allegedly original form. In Birkenau, Kremas II, III, IV and V are collapsed or razed to the foundations; Bunker I (the Red House) is gone and Bunker II (the White House) is now restored and utilized as a private residence. At Majdanek, the first oil-fired crematory has been removed and the crematory with the alleged gas chamber has been rebuilt with only the ovens being original."

The claim is it's ORIGINAL.

You misread this part, he said that the constant absorption into the walls in the chamber and into the surrounding area would eventually produce an enormous explosion. It only requires one area to have that concentration of HCN to produce a chain reaction.


HOLD ON ONE FUCKING SECOND.

Your claim is that the absorption into the walls would have created an explosion hazard.

You need to clarify this before I go off on a hideous laughter kick and spread this one on all the revisionists boards.

This was NEVER mentioned by Rudolf - please tell us how absorption into a wall can create an explosive hazard? The explosion hazard comes from gas, not residue on the surface of the wall. Even if it did, since the walls are not near enough to the furnace, how the hell could the walls explode>

HOLY FUCK - are you serious about this argument?


Gas masks are nearly useless.


OK - so you are totally stupid aren't you? Do you know that workers wore gas masks in the delousing chambers?

Just so everyone knows, this statement is a fucking lie or just made from ignorance - either way it is untrue and not supported by even the revisionist literature on the subject.


"The temperature of the walls and the air within the facility, and the intake air, must be kept at least 10 degrees above the boiling point of the hydrocyanic acid (78.3 degrees F) to prevent condensation of HCN on the walls, floor and ceiling of the facility, as well as in the exhaust system. If the temperature is below 79 degrees F and condensation occurs, the facility must be decontaminated with chlorine bleach or ammonia, the former being the most effective. This is accomplished by spraying the walls either automatically or manually. If done manually, protective suits (generally neoprene) must be worn and the technicians must utilize air breathing cylinders, as gas masks are unsafe and dangerous. The interior of the building must be evacuated longer to allow the chlorine bleach vapors to neutralize the liquid HCN in the exhaust system. The interior of the building must be washed with water and thoroughly mopped and dried before the next use."

A would have should have is a very effective method considering that the Germans didn't even take successful designs into consideration- namely the American gas chambers.


Why would you model a gas chamber being used to kill hundreds or more at a time after a gas chamber used to kill one, purposeful victim, in front of witnesses. This is an apples to oranges comparison.


If you mean just a hole in the ceiling it would take anywhere from
a few days to a week to get the job done depending on how big the chamber is. Obviously the claim of millions becomes impossible.


That is not what I mean, there were air flow changes from ventilation systems - go study the plans and come back more educated.



But we agree that there was a claim where Diesel gas was used right?

Or rather a submarine engine


You are confusing Treblinka with Auschwitz here - since this is a focused discussion on Leuchter, it has no place here. Leuchter never wrote a paper on Treblinka.


But really Slamin you said yourself that you disagree with putting people to the trial for an opinion they have. You agree with us that going to court over an opinion isn't in good faith right? Then how can you use a trial as good evidence? The trial itself is invalid, if you disagree with this then you are admitting that you think its reasonable to try people for opinions and use this against them. If it's invalid then nothing collected in court may be used against that person.

I agree that the prosecution of revisionists for speaking a belief is wrong and beyond contempt.

HOWEVER, the testimony Leuchter offered under sworn oath is still valid for this discussion.

What part of reduced to ruble do you not understand?

No evidence- no story.

Your problem if you found nothing in the rubble.
Its very simple- if there was a gassing then there should be HCN left on the walls- there is; however, there is no HCN in the surrounding buildings. If there was no gas left on the walls that would mean that material for stopping it was used, but why would it be removed then? It makes no sense for the Germans to remove it, it's too much work and its not really damning evidence. So... You can believe that there was no material, thus that means that there would be HCN in the buildings around the chamber (And there's not) or you can believe there was material but then why is there crap left on the walls and where did this padding go to?

Either way, no dice.


There is no physical evidence that can be seen upon visual examination of the ruins that were purposely destroyed by the Germans. You do know that they took months to dismantle the crematoriums before destroying them right? I mean you are not totally ignorant on this subject are you?
You're assuming this, there's nothing to back it up. We haven't seen generators or fans.



HOLD ON ONE FUCKING SECOND.

Your claim is that the absorption into the walls would have created an explosion hazard.

You need to clarify this before I go off on a hideous laughter kick and spread this one on all the revisionists boards.
Quite obviously you've never taken a chemistry class. But alright ill explain it to you in layman's terms *Sighs*

The NFPA74 for Benzene puts it at category 4 for flammability. Try soaking something in benzene and then hold a match to it. You already know the effects. HCN is category 4 as well meaning anything soaked in it will catch fire easily and given that a crematory is like a pressure cooker you can imagine what can happen in presence of highly combustible material.

That is actually the proof that this operation never happened - there is no HCN anywhere to be found around the facilities. The HCN was introduced into the chambers in small quantities so that it would look real.


Bunkers I and II are described in Auschwitz State Museum literature as converted farm houses with several chambers and windows sealed. These do not exist in their original condition and were not inspected. Kremas I, II, III, IV and V are described historically and on inspection were verified to have been converted mortuaries or morgues connected and housed in the same facility as crematories. The on-site inspection of these structures indicated extremely poor and dangerous design for these facilities if they were to have served as execution gas chambers. There is no provision for gasketed doors, windows or vents; the structures are not coated with tar or other sealant to prevent leakage or absorption of the gas. the adjacent crematories are a potential danger of explosion.

The exposed porous brick and mortar would accumulate the HCN and make these facilities dangerous to humans for several years. Krema I is adjacent to the S.S. Hospital at Auschwitz and has floor drains connected to the main sewer of the camp -- which would allow gas into every building at the facility. There were no exhaust systems to vent the gas after usage and no heaters or dispersal mechanisms for the Zyklon B to be introduced or evaporated. The Zyklon B was supposedly dropped through roof vents and put in through windows -- not allowing for even distribution of gas or pellets. The facilities are always damp and not heated. As stated earlier, dampness and Zyklon B are not compatible.

Any questions?

Furthermore...

The testimony of Rottenführer (Lance-corporal) Perry (Pery) Broad at Dr. Tesch's trial constitutes one of the most oft-cited and relied-upon supports for the charges of mass murder of Jews by Germans at Auschwitz-Zasole and Auschwitz-Birkenau. Along with his "Report" See 33. and his testimony, he is responsible for the establishment of several concepts essential to the vivification and sustained vigor of the "Holocaust" tales. Broad testified that as early as 1942 he had heard rumors that gassing was being carried out "on a bigger scale" at Auschwitz-Zasole. He stated that he observed an actual "gassing" from the Truppenrevier (troop quarters) at a distance of 40-45 meters. This was in July of 1942. Several people in gas masks were on the roof of the old crematorium. They hammered open tins (presumably of Zyklon B) and poured the contents into six holes each ten centimeters (four inches) in diameter See 34. leading apparently through the roof to a chamber underneath. Broad alleged that 300 to 500 people were in the "Old Crematorium." After 2-3 minutes, the screaming ended. He assumed that people were killed in this manner once or twice a month, but stated that he actually witnessed only one "gassing" this closely. He testified that in the Fall of 1944, he had observed "gassing" at Auschwitz-Birkenau but from a much greater distance. At Birkenau, he testified, there were four crematories, See 35. and in March and April of 1944, 19,000 persons a day were killed with Zyklon B from tin cans. He said he was certain tin cans were used because he saw the cans in a car driven by a disinfector who had given him a ride. But he could not identify the labels on the cans as identifying material ordered through Tesch und Stabenow.

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Fantastic numbers considering how long it would take to ventilate this place.


This was NEVER mentioned by Rudolf - please tell us how absorption into a wall can create an explosive hazard? The explosion hazard comes from gas, not residue on the surface of the wall. Even if it did, since the walls are not near enough to the furnace, how the hell could the walls explode>
It doesn't matter what state it is in, if a significant portion gets into the crematorium a chain reaction will begin that will then destroy the whole facility. Considering as to how long this operation lasted it would happen.
ESPECIALLY considering how close the crematories were to some of these chambers.

An official wartime information sheet on the use of hydrogen cyanide and Zyklon B confirms that HCN has "extraordinarily great penetrative powers." This sheet (Nuremberg document NI-9912) was issued by the public health agency of Bohemia-Moravia. ^77 Even if the roughcast had been present during the alleged homicidal gassings, HCN would have penetrated through to the iron in the bricks beneath it, ultimately producing a significant quantity of Prussian blue.




Do you know that workers wore gas masks in the delousing chambers?
I know they didn't because HCN can pierce through brick, human skin would be like butter to a knife.
They only enter the delousing chamber after a lot of the gas has left, when the concentration is low enough for the mask to be effective.





Why would you model a gas chamber being used to kill hundreds or more at a time after a gas chamber used to kill one, purposeful victim, in front of witnesses. This is an apples to oranges comparison.
Have you considered that they did not use any sort of heating or pump to get the job done? America was doing that for one person. The method the nazis used was pathetically bad even for one person.



That is not what I mean, there were air flow changes from ventilation systems - go study the plans and come back more educated.
No fan- no sped up ventilation.

"In the case of crematoria IV and V, one must assume that the rooms in question here were intended for disinfestation purposes, but never completed for this purpose, let alone used. In any case, there is no evidence that ventilation systems absolutely necessary for the use of HCN were ever installed.[289] The reason for this may lie in the fact that starting in early 1943, the Germans were working on the completion of a large hygienic complex with a large hot air disinfestation installation (the so-called 'Zentralsauna') in the immediate vicinity of these crematoria, and were also anticipating the early use of microwave disinfestation installations as promised by Berlin (see chapter 5.2.3.6.)."


"Even these ruins can still speak to us, even if, in this case, only the concrete foundations are authentic, since everything else is probably not authentic. Another technical precondition for the use of the rooms alleged to have been homicidal 'gas chambers' would be that it would have to have been rendered impossible for the victims on the inside to get anywhere near the introduction hatches, since otherwise they could have simply pushed the SS man off the ladder while he was throwing the Zyklon B into the chamber; they could then have attempted to escape. A U-shaped, solid steel grid construction anchored in the floor and in the masonry of the walls with steel hoop anchors spread out into dovetails would have been necessary to keep the victims on the inside at arm's length from the hatches. The concrete floors of these rooms surviving today, however, make it clear that nothing of the sort was ever anchored in the floor."

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/trr/KremaV.gif


It's just a fucking chimney as I said- a hole in the ceiling.

And even then...


For ventilation, the facility should have had some openings in the roof that could be closed during the operation and then opened after the gassing to allow the gas to ventilate. In this case, it would have taken more than a week to ventilate the area, since there was only normal convection, or air current, to bring the gas out of the building. (32-9081) This was the same thing that was done when a building was deloused. The buildings were sealed, and the chemicals placed on the floor. The windows were then opened and the facility was allowed to air for three to seven days, depending upon the size of the facility. This procedure was described in official German documents on the procedures to be followed for delousing buildings and materials. (32- 9082)

There was no ventilation capability for Krema II at all. Morgue no. 1 and morgue no. 2 where both underground and there were no structures above them. There was only one door going into the morgue. In Leuchter's opinion, there was no way of adequately venting the building. (32-9082, 9083)





You are confusing Treblinka with Auschwitz here - since this is a focused discussion on Leuchter, it has no place here. Leuchter never wrote a paper on Treblinka.
Don't care, if it's a lie its applicable to scrunity.



I agree that the prosecution of revisionists for speaking a belief is wrong and beyond contempt.

HOWEVER, the testimony Leuchter offered under sworn oath is still valid for this discussion.
No, you cannot use it legally and all further uses of these documents will be ignored.

But really the easy question is, why did Germans make excellent delousing facilities but such crappy gas chambers?

The answer is obvious.

Slammin, re your neg rep.

My opinion re kikes is the same well before Stormfront and after. Stormfront did nothing to open my eyes to the jew.

I was trained to know my Enemy before Stormfront had been thought up. From birth.

However, since Stormfront decided to be an all inclusive forum in the last year or so; turning into a place that coddles and caters to jews, I can see where you are unhappy with the more forthright attitude of this Forum. What you do not understand is, it does not matter how you are treated anywhere; the fact is, jews are not trusted by our Folk, they do not wish to have the jew in their Lands. Whether or not you are treated well or bad, this is the truth.

You jews, your long millenia of lies is catching up to you in the 21st century and your time amongst humanity is thankfully short.

In future, if you have a problem with my posts, you can either continue to proffer neg reputation to me; or, you can behave like a man, if you can manage it and address my posts in the open. It's up to you.

What part of reduced to ruble do you not understand?...HOLD ON ONE FUCKING SECOND. .

What amazes me is why people are so wraped up in discussing this trivial drivel.

The only FACTS that everyone seems to be missing is the FACT that there are still Jews running around loose, whining and moaning and crying and making a big deal about alleged and fallacious events in history and they need to be put out of their misery so that the world can get some peace of mind. The point comes where every Jew who even opens his mouth with the word "holocaust" slithering out, needs to be shot on the spot.

The main FACTS are being overlooked. It is a FACT that there are still Jews running around loose. Therefore, whether the Germans gassed zero or whether they gassed 6 zillion kikenvermin, doesn't matter at all in modern times. The fact is, that there are still Jews running around loose who need to be rounded up, locked up for their crimes against humanity, and gassed again.

Hitler and the Germans didn't have time to do the job right. So, it is up to modern people to help the Jews become famous like the T-Rex and the Brontosaurus, extinct monsters from a by-gone era. The world will not have any peace of mind until the Jews become extinct and silence their incessant whining and moaning and crying and carrying on. For a people who are such a tiny minority, they make more noise and trouble than the whole rest of humanity put together. They are nothing but a nuisance, like flies, fleas, lice, ticks, cockroaches, termites and rats - in fact, more of a nuisance.

So, let's all do our part for a judenrein welt. God Bless Adolf Hitler. A good man and a great leader showing us the way to get things done. Discussion closed. Now let's all get to work on the project. Heil Hitler.

Slammin, re your neg rep.

My opinion re kikes is the same well before Stormfront and after. Stormfront did nothing to open my eyes to the jew.

I was trained to know my Enemy before Stormfront had been thought up. From birth.

However, since Stormfront decided to be an all inclusive forum in the last year or so; turning into a place that coddles and caters to jews, I can see where you are unhappy with the more forthright attitude of this Forum. What you do not understand is, it does not matter how you are treated anywhere; the fact is, jews are not trusted by our Folk, they do not wish to have the jew in their Lands. Whether or not you are treated well or bad, this is the truth.

You jews, your long millenia of lies is catching up to you in the 21st century and your time amongst humanity is thankfully short.

In future, if you have a problem with my posts, you can either continue to proffer neg reputation to me; or, you can behave like a man, if you can manage it and address my posts in the open. It's up to you.

You're like a human valium. Seriously, your posts are so fucking boring. You're nothing but a brainwashed virgin spouting crap all day long.
*falls asleep*

What amazes me is why people are so wraped up in discussing this trivial drivel.

The only FACTS that everyone seems to be missing is the FACT that there are still Jews running around loose, whining and moaning and crying and making a big deal about alleged and fallacious events in history and they need to be put out of their misery so that the world can get some peace of mind. The point comes where every Jew who even opens his mouth with the word "holocaust" slithering out, needs to be shot on the spot.

The main FACTS are being overlooked. It is a FACT that there are still Jews running around loose. Therefore, whether the Germans gassed zero or whether they gassed 6 zillion kikenvermin, doesn't matter at all in modern times. The fact is, that there are still Jews running around loose who need to be rounded up, locked up for their crimes against humanity, and gassed again.

Hitler and the Germans didn't have time to do the job right. So, it is up to modern people to help the Jews become famous like the T-Rex and the Brontosaurus, extinct monsters from a by-gone era. The world will not have any peace of mind until the Jews become extinct and silence their incessant whining and moaning and crying and carrying on. For a people who are such a tiny minority, they make more noise and trouble than the whole rest of humanity put together. They are nothing but a nuisance, like flies, fleas, lice, ticks, cockroaches, termites and rats - in fact, more of a nuisance.

So, let's all do our part for a judenrein welt. God Bless Adolf Hitler. A good man and a great leader showing us the way to get things done. Discussion closed. Now let's all get to work on the project. Heil Hitler.

You, one of lifes losers

What amazes me is why people are so wraped up in discussing this trivial drivel.

The only FACTS that everyone seems to be missing is the FACT that there are still Jews running around loose, whining and moaning and crying and making a big deal about alleged and fallacious events in history and they need to be put out of their misery so that the world can get some peace of mind. The point comes where every Jew who even opens his mouth with the word "holocaust" slithering out, needs to be shot on the spot.

The main FACTS are being overlooked. It is a FACT that there are still Jews running around loose. Therefore, whether the Germans gassed zero or whether they gassed 6 zillion kikenvermin, doesn't matter at all in modern times. The fact is, that there are still Jews running around loose who need to be rounded up, locked up for their crimes against humanity, and gassed again.

Hitler and the Germans didn't have time to do the job right. So, it is up to modern people to help the Jews become famous like the T-Rex and the Brontosaurus, extinct monsters from a by-gone era. The world will not have any peace of mind until the Jews become extinct and silence their incessant whining and moaning and crying and carrying on. For a people who are such a tiny minority, they make more noise and trouble than the whole rest of humanity put together. They are nothing but a nuisance, like flies, fleas, lice, ticks, cockroaches, termites and rats - in fact, more of a nuisance.

So, let's all do our part for a judenrein welt. God Bless Adolf Hitler. A good man and a great leader showing us the way to get things done. Discussion closed. Now let's all get to work on the project. Heil Hitler.

What always amazes me is to what extent they have to go to make up reasons to hate us.

Slammin, re your neg rep.

My opinion re kikes is the same well before Stormfront and after. Stormfront did nothing to open my eyes to the jew.

I was trained to know my Enemy before Stormfront had been thought up. From birth.

However, since Stormfront decided to be an all inclusive forum in the last year or so; turning into a place that coddles and caters to jews, I can see where you are unhappy with the more forthright attitude of this Forum. What you do not understand is, it does not matter how you are treated anywhere; the fact is, jews are not trusted by our Folk, they do not wish to have the jew in their Lands. Whether or not you are treated well or bad, this is the truth.

You jews, your long millenia of lies is catching up to you in the 21st century and your time amongst humanity is thankfully short.

In future, if you have a problem with my posts, you can either continue to proffer neg reputation to me; or, you can behave like a man, if you can manage it and address my posts in the open. It's up to you.

On Stromfront you were an intelligent person who was worthy of debate, you've become some sort of vile person who has nothing but hate in her hearth. Have you looked at yourself?

There were intelligent arguments and exchanges in the past, sure we are as polar opposites as possible, but you actually used to make arguments that required thought to counter - now its just a hateful rant that has lost all meaning.

Hell, Ozman or even Junkers would be a welcome distraction now.

BTW - I'm not Jewish bitch.

No evidence- no story.


This thread is about Leuchter shit head, and his inability to profer an itelligent report. One should also look at the architectural plans no? Leuchter did not do this, nor did he review ANY testimony, German or Jew, about the facilities. Hardly what one would call a thorough exam.


Your problem if you found nothing in the rubble.
Its very simple- if there was a gassing then there should be HCN left on the walls- there is; however, there is no HCN in the surrounding buildings.


What the fuck are you talking about. Why would HCN gassing in a gas chamber result in contamination of OTHER buildings? The gas was contained and vented.


If there was no gas left on the walls that would mean that material for stopping it was used, but why would it be removed then?


There was residue on the walls of the gas chambers.


It makes no sense for the Germans to remove it, it's too much work and its not really damning evidence. So... You can believe that there was no material, thus that means that there would be HCN in the buildings around the chamber (And there's not) or you can believe there was material but then why is there crap left on the walls and where did this padding go to?

Either way, no dice.


I have no idea what point you think you just made. The walls of the gas chambers were not padded? What the fuck are you talking about?



You're assuming this, there's nothing to back it up. We haven't seen generators or fans.


Look at the architectural drawings and read the witness testimony.


Quite obviously you've never taken a chemistry class. But alright ill explain it to you in layman's terms *Sighs*

The NFPA74 for Benzene puts it at category 4 for flammability. Try soaking something in benzene and then hold a match to it. You already know the effects. HCN is category 4 as well meaning anything soaked in it will catch fire easily and given that a crematory is like a pressure cooker you can imagine what can happen in presence of highly combustible material.


The issue is explosive hazard not flammability. The HCN at issue here is a gas, not a liquid.



That is actually the proof that this operation never happened - there is no HCN anywhere to be found around the facilities. The HCN was introduced into the chambers in small quantities so that it would look real.


When you say around the facilities, do you mean inside the crematoriums but outside the gas chambers?




Any questions?


Yeah - what are you smoking?


Furthermore...


Fantastic numbers considering how long it would take to ventilate this place.


It doesn't matter what state it is in, if a significant portion gets into the crematorium a chain reaction will begin that will then destroy the whole facility. Considering as to how long this operation lasted it would happen.
ESPECIALLY considering how close the crematories were to some of these chambers.


Then Leuchter is a liar, because he tells us in his testimony that 6%, or 60,000 parts per million is the explosive hazard for HCN.





I know they didn't because HCN can pierce through brick, human skin would be like butter to a knife.


You know, how do you know? Do you know you are full of shit? The directions from the manufacturer tell you to wear a gas mask when handling it. Should I post a quote from Rudolf or Leuchter? You are at odds with the man you are trying to support.


They only enter the delousing chamber after a lot of the gas has left, when the concentration is low enough for the mask to be effective.


In some instances, the workers would stand in the gas chamber and open the cans, and spread the HCN on the floor, the would be there for a period while it began to outgass.




Have you considered that they did not use any sort of heating or pump to get the job done? America was doing that for one person. The method the nazis used was pathetically bad even for one person.


How hot do you think a room will be when you pack it tight with naked humans, so tight that they cannot move?


No fan- no sped up ventilation.


How do you know there is no fan?



Don't care, if it's a lie its applicable to scrunity.


Not when we talk about Leuchter.



No, you cannot use it legally and all further uses of these documents will be ignored.


I can't use his own words when examining his knowledge? What the fuck kind of reasoning is this?


But really the easy question is, why did Germans make excellent delousing facilities but such crappy gas chambers?

The answer is obvious.

The chambers were not crappy - they worked just fine.

[QUOTE]This thread is about Leuchter shit head, and his inability to profer an itelligent report. One should also look at the architectural plans no? Leuchter did not do this, nor did he review ANY testimony, German or Jew, about the facilities. Hardly what one would call a thorough exam.

Please don't ask us, ask Leuchter, why he did and why he didn't, he'll answer if he doesn't think that you are a bad smelling worthless parasitic fraud that does not deserve any attention. :p


What the fuck are you talking about. Why would HCN gassing in a gas chamber result in contamination of OTHER buildings? The gas was contained and vented.
There was residue on the walls of the gas chambers.
I have no idea what point you think you just made. The walls of the gas chambers were not padded? What the fuck are you talking about?
Look at the architectural drawings and read the witness testimony.

here we are again: "he said she said" :rofl

In some instances, the workers would stand in the gas chamber and open the cans, and spread the HCN on the floor, the would be there for a period while it began to outgass.

Do you know that because you have been gassed at least many times? :rofl

How hot do you think a room will be when you pack it tight with naked humans, so tight that they cannot move?

Jews are liars.
Jews are fuckers(especially when they are naked).
Fucking liars.
They will resort to mindfuck if packed so tight that they cannot move.

And after each mindfuckgassing the German subhuman animals have to put dynamite under the doors (because they are opening to the inside!!!)
in order to get to the fucked up jew carcasses. :rofl



How do you know there is no fan?

The times, when there are fans admiring Jews of any kind, is coming to an end, get that into your thick head.
And PS just knows it.
Even Einstein is going down these days.

I can't use his own words when examining his knowledge? What the fuck kind of reasoning is this?

Anyone can use another man's words and screw them up so bad, that people will think: "Sounds like the words of a fucking jew" :rofl


The chambers were not crappy - they worked just fine
now you can kill yourself you JUDENSCHWEIN. :D

This thread is about Leuchter shit head, and his inability to profer an itelligent report. One should also look at the architectural plans no? Leuchter did not do this, nor did he review ANY testimony, German or Jew, about the facilities. Hardly what one would call a thorough exam.
The scope of this report includes a physical inspection and quantitative data obtained at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, literature supplied by the officials at the three (3) museum sites, blueprint copies of Kremas I, II, III, IV and V obtained at the museums, material relative to DEGESCH delousing chambers and facilities (including equipment and procedures utilized with Zyklon B gas), a description of operational procedures at the facilities in question and forensic samples taken at the Kremas investigated.

Additionally, data on the design of U.S. gas chambers and operational procedures coming from the investigator's own personal knowledge and work in the field, as well as, an investigation of U.S. crematories and procedures, were utilized in the production of this report. Utilizing all of the above data, the investigator has limited the focus of this study to a determination of:

(a) the capability of the alleged execution gas chambers to have accomplished the mass murder of human beings by the use of Zyklon B gas in Auschwitz I and Birkenau and carbon monoxide and/or Zyklon B gas in Majdanek;

(b) the capability of the investigated kremas to have accomplished the alleged number of human cremations in the alleged time period.



The principal investigator and author of this report on design and fabrication of execution hardware has specifically worked on and designed hardware in the United States used in the execution of condemned persons by means of hydrogen cyanide gas.

The investigator has inspected the facilities at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek, made measurements, taken forensic samples, reviewed design and procedural literature on DEGESCH delousing chambers and procedures, Zyklon B gas, and materials on execution procedures. Much of the reviewed material was literature purchased and viewed at the sites in Poland, including copies of original drawings of Kremas I, II, III, IV and V.

Interesting.





What the fuck are you talking about. Why would HCN gassing in a gas chamber result in contamination of OTHER buildings? The gas was contained and vented.
No it wasn't, have you read Leuchter's report? That's the point, it wasn't contained, there was no porous material on the walls or ceiling as its standard in normal gas chambers.



There was residue on the walls of the gas chambers.
That's the point.



I have no idea what point you think you just made. The walls of the gas chambers were not padded? What the fuck are you talking about?
See above point , you're feigning ignorance.




Look at the architectural drawings and read the witness testimony.
http://www.ihr.org/images/append6.jpg

The question is, what are you looking at?




The issue is explosive hazard not flammability. The HCN at issue here is a gas, not a liquid.
Both the liquid and the gas are above their flash point. For them to fail to ignite they'd would have to be -14 C.

If you didn't realize, in this situation a flammability hazard also leads to it being an explosive hazard.




When you say around the facilities, do you mean inside the crematoriums but outside the gas chambers?
I mean all the buildings around which have no traces of HCN at all.





Yeah - what are you smoking?
I don't smoke a hookah like you do.



Then Leuchter is a liar, because he tells us in his testimony that 6%, or 60,000 parts per million is the explosive hazard for HCN.
That's true; however that does not change with the phase, it simply means it takes more energy. A crematorium works at a temperature that would easily ignite either gaseous , solid or liquid HCN.





The directions from the manufacturer tell you to wear a gas mask when handling it. Should I post a quote from Rudolf or Leuchter? You are at odds with the man you are trying to support.
It doesn't vaporize quickly so handling it with a gas mask does prove effective. Once it has vaporized a gas mask wont help.



In some instances, the workers would stand in the gas chamber and open the cans, and spread the HCN on the floor, the would be there for a period while it began to outgass.
Germans don't have dumb ideas . If they did that they'd let gas leak out and the point is to not let it leak out.





How hot do you think a room will be when you pack it tight with naked humans, so tight that they cannot move?

That creates a huge problem- see tuisto's post.


How do you know there is no fan?

How do I know there was?

We're talking about incriminating someone, tell me how do I know.








I can't use his own words when examining his knowledge? What the fuck kind of reasoning is this?
If someone is illegally barged in upon the officer cannot use anything he saw as evidence against the person. So if he sees that person had cocaine lined out on the table he cannot bring that up in court.

Same reasoning here, unless of course you think this trial was reasonable. Do you?

That's true; however that does not change with the phase, it simply means it takes more energy. A crematorium works at a temperature that would easily ignite either gaseous , solid or liquid HCN.



Just one point for now, I'll address the rest later.

HCN, the gas, is the only item at issue here.

Leuchter spoke of an exposive hazard, not a fire hazard, from HCN GAS!

An explosive hazard from HCN only comes into play when the concentration of the gas reaches a certain level. That level is 6% or 60,000 parts per million.

That level is never reached during gassing, either with delousing or with homicidal intent.

Its not even close.

Do you realize HCN was used all over Europe for delousing? They deloused churches and barracks, schools and hospitals. Rudolf studied a church that had Prussian Blue staining. Under your theory a lit candle in the church would cause an explosion or fire, years after the gassing was complete.

Why not do some home work and reasses this argument?

Oh, one last thing for now.

Gas Masks

http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/7/1/Berg73-94.html

This is in reference to American gas chambers, but should prove the point.

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Thanks to the research of Dr. Robert Faurisson, a great deal of information about the chambers used in this country for the execution of criminals with cyanide and the detailed and complex procedures for such executions is available-some of which will be published shortly by this journal. The gas chambers for executing criminals in the USA still used, long after World War II, the so-called "pot" or "barrel" method to generate cyanide gas by dropping cyanide salt tablets into a pot of sulfuric acid. This method had generally been abandoned for industrial uses throughout most of the world, including the U.S.A., as soon as Zyklon-B became available in the early 1920's. A major drawback of the "pot" method, aside from the problem of disposing of a pot of sulfuric acid containing cyanide, is that a significant amount of cyanide gas is absorbed by the liquid in the pot itself and then released, but only gradually, even after the rest of the chamber has been thoroughly vented. This is probably one of the main reasons why gas masks have to be worn in the gas chamber as part of the complex procedure for removing the body of an executed prisoner.

Do you realize HCN was used all over Europe for delousing? They deloused churches and barracks, schools and hospitals. Rudolf studied a church that had Prussian Blue staining. Under your theory a lit candle in the church would cause an explosion or fire, years after the gassing was complete.

Why not do some home work and reasses this argument?

No no, my point isn't that because a lit candle doesn't reach even near the required heat so no that is not a problem.

I can't tell you exactly how much HCN would be absorbed; however, given how many cans had to be opened for this operation any leakage would be serious trouble and as I have shown you that would be a problem. The circumstances you described are all safe because the gassing only happens once, it also escapes easily and its allowed to ventilate for many days before usage. This was a daily event where ventilation was dubious and the temperature requirement was reached. Once a system ignites it begins to expand until it cannot. As I said- if even at one area such requirements were reached there would be an explosion.

Id also be curious to know if pressure would be used in one of these crematories to save energy. If it was that would make the hazard even greater.

Oh, one last thing for now.

Gas Masks

http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/7/1/Berg73-94.html

This is in reference to American gas chambers, but should prove the point.

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Thanks to the research of Dr. Robert Faurisson, a great deal of information about the chambers used in this country for the execution of criminals with cyanide and the detailed and complex procedures for such executions is available-some of which will be published shortly by this journal. The gas chambers for executing criminals in the USA still used, long after World War II, the so-called "pot" or "barrel" method to generate cyanide gas by dropping cyanide salt tablets into a pot of sulfuric acid. This method had generally been abandoned for industrial uses throughout most of the world, including the U.S.A., as soon as Zyklon-B became available in the early 1920's. A major drawback of the "pot" method, aside from the problem of disposing of a pot of sulfuric acid containing cyanide, is that a significant amount of cyanide gas is absorbed by the liquid in the pot itself and then released, but only gradually, even after the rest of the chamber has been thoroughly vented. This is probably one of the main reasons why gas masks have to be worn in the gas chamber as part of the complex procedure for removing the body of an executed prisoner.

The chamber most likely followed these standards thus making it safe to remove a body after the procedures detailed have been completed.

Design Criteria for an Execution Gas Chamber

Many of the same requirements for the fumigation facility apply to an execution facility. Generally, however, the execution facility will be smaller and more efficient. Zyklon B is not recommended for use in an execution gas chamber generally because of the time it takes to drive the gas from the inert carrier. Up until now, the only efficient method has been to generate the gas on-site by chemical reaction of sodium cyanide and 18% sulfuric acid. Recently, a design for a gas generator has been completed which will be utilized in the two (2) man gas chamber at the Missouri State Penitentiary, Jefferson City, Missouri. The author is the design consultant for this execution gas chamber.

This generator employs an electrically heated water jacket to pre-boil HCN in a cylindrical vessel. At the time of use, the HCN is already vaporized and is released through valves into the chamber. A nitrogen burst system clears the plumbing after use. The total time of the execution is less than four minutes. The chamber is evacuated at a rate of once every two minutes for a 15 minute time period, providing some seven (7) complete air changes.

The chamber may be of welded steel construction or of plastic PVC. The doors and windows should be of standard marine watertight construction. The door is gasketed with a single handle pressure seal. All lighting and electrical hardware is explosion-proof. The chamber contains the gas distribution plumbing, the gas generator with the bottle of liquid HCN, electronic heart monitoring equipment, two (2) seats for the condemned and a gas detector reading externally, electronically to 10 ppm.

Because the chamber contains so lethal a gas, it is operated at a negative pressure to guarantee that any leak would be inward. The chamber pressure is controlled by a vacurizer system which should hold the chamber at a partial vacuum of 10 pounds per square inch (psi) (operational: 8 psi plus 2 psi of HCN). The negative pressure is maintained utilizing the outward ambient as a standard. This system is controlled electrically and supported by a 17.7 cfm displacement vacuum pump. Additionally, a pressure switch is set to trigger emergency systems if the chamber pressure reaches 12 psi, 3 psi above the operational limit.

The inlet and exhaust system is designed for an air change every two (2) minutes. The air is supplied by a 2000+ cfm fan on the inlet side of the chamber and exhausted through the top of the chamber. The inlet and exhaust valves are both of the inwardly closing type to prevent vacuum loss and are timed to electrically open in sequence, the exhaust valve first. This is evacuated through a 40 foot high 13 inch diameter PVC pipe where the wind disperses the gas harmlessly. The intake air should have preheat capability to guarantee that no HCN will condense and thereby escape evacuation.

Gas detectors are utilized for safety. First, in the chamber where it will electrically prohibit the door from opening until the chamber is safe, second, outside the chamber in the witness and personnel areas where they sound alarms and initiate an air exhaust and intake system to protect the witnesses, as well as, abort the execution and evacuate the chamber. The safety systems contain warning bells, horns, and lights, as well.

Further, emergency breathing apparatus (air tanks) is available in the chamber area, as well as, special HCN first aid kits, emergency medical equipment for HCN and a resuscitator in an adjacent area for medical personnel.

Execution gas chamber design requires the consideration of many complicated problems. A mistake in any area may, and probably will, cause death or injury to witnesses or technician

Also it has been said definitely that Sulfuric Acid was NOT used.

You, one of lifes losers

Oh yeah, I forgot about you. Okay, to amend my post ... also the traitors, we should not forget to round up the traitors along with the Jews and swing them both from the same gibbet.

On Stromfront you were an intelligent person who was worthy of debate, you've become some sort of vile person who has nothing but hate in her hearth. Have you looked at yourself?

There were intelligent arguments and exchanges in the past, sure we are as polar opposites as possible, but you actually used to make arguments that required thought to counter - now its just a hateful rant that has lost all meaning.

Hell, Ozman or even Junkers would be a welcome distraction now.

BTW - I'm not Jewish bitch.

Yes, you are jewish. If not born one then bred to behave and think as one, a spiritual jew is a jew.

You are not debating, you are - just as you did on Stormfront, attempting to conduct your own Nurnberg type trial. A belly full of holocaustian rage does not make either yourself, or your belief, right. I do not have to debate you, especially when you debate so unintelligently. You have not changed since SF, and I don't know why you think your argument on this forum today is any more valid than it was back then, on Stormfront.

You are merely angry because I have no more respect for your arguments and debate here than I did on SF. You spout the same thing, and cannot do any better since Holocaustian Dogma cannot be altered or changed. You jews made a big mistake turning your hoax into a religion; then conducting witch hunts and show trials, in the last few years; designed to put my Folk in prison for heresy. jews need to free my People, admit the wrong - publicly. Repeal the thought crime laws. Then, we can debate.

You are merely angry because I have no more respect for your arguments and debate here than I did on SF. You spout the same thing, and cannot do any better since Holocaustian Dogma cannot be altered or changed. You jews made a big mistake turning your hoax into a religion; then conducting witch hunts and show trials, in the last few years; designed to put my Folk in prison for heresy. jews need to free my People, admit the wrong - publicly. Repeal the thought crime laws. Then, we can debate

"Sándor P" handed this kike cunt his nutz several posts back but, llike a true jew, he re-surfaces with the same old bullsh' once he thinks "the coast is clear"!.....hey jew-boy!....we'll acknowledge the HollowHoax when the MSM acknowledges the 100 million white Russians murdered by the judæo-bolsheviks 1920-1945!....and the 10million ethnic VolksDeutsch murdered by the same post-WWII!...ohh....and when comparable reparations have been granted too!...that's abt twenty times what the jews have extorted in the last fifty years!......should "ante up" to abt $US100 trillion!

(jimbo!)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/regalia_mothercross_gold.jpg

Jimbo said:

"Sándor P" handled this kike cunts nutz"


fix0red

"Sándor P" handed this kike cunt his nutz several posts back but, llike a true jew, he re-surfaces with the same old bullsh' once he thinks "the coast is clear"!.....hey jew-boy!....we'll acknowledge the HollowHoax when the MSM acknowledges the 100 million white Russians murdered by the judæo-bolsheviks 1920-1945!....and the 10million ethnic VolksDeutsch murdered by the same post-WWII!...ohh....and when comparable reparations have been granted too!...that's abt twenty times what the jews have extorted in the last fifty years!......should "ante up" to abt trillion!

(jimbo!)


http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/regalia_mothercross_gold.jpg


Hi jimbo. Yes, this jew also had his arse handed to him on SF as well. He forgets; thinking that those whom debated him on the deleted SF holocaust thread will also forget. There, whenever his argument and debate became too lame, he would resort to calling the men faggots and the few females participating were "bitches", and other assorted name calling.

Toward the end, he would lurk on the thread. Participants had to call him out. The coward would not respond. He thinks that he is debating a "lower class" Aryan on this Forum. He is not. However, he expects to be respected here, coddled here and protected as he was on Stormfront by mods and Admin.; the fact that he is not protected, leads this jew to believe that he is dealing with less intelligent Folk; for he believes that anyone whom would refuse to protect a jew is ignorant/insane.

Hi jimbo. Yes, this jew also had his arse handed to him on SF as well. He forgets; thinking that those whom debated him on the deleted SF holocaust thread will also forget. There, whenever his argument and debate became too lame, he would resort to calling the men faggots and the few females participating were "bitches", and other assorted name calling.

This is a fucking lie - I never resorted to name calling and did not use it here until you started with your shit.


Toward the end, he would lurk on the thread. Participants had to call him out. The coward would not respond. He thinks that he is debating a "lower class" Aryan on this Forum. He is not. However, he expects to be respected here, coddled here and protected as he was on Stormfront by mods and Admin.; the fact that he is not protected, leads this jew to believe that he is dealing with less intelligent Folk; for he believes that anyone whom would refuse to protect a jew is ignorant/insane.

Then you obviously do not know who I am. I was not coddled, I was the poster Jack Boot had on permanent moderation, my posts lingered in the ether until he allowed them to appear, and I still held my own.

I was never called out or cowered dumb shit, I was banned because you or one of your ilk complained one last time.

You are either a liar or have no recollection of those exchanges.


And yes, you are a lower class, as if that was possible.

"Sándor P" handed this kike cunt his nutz several posts back but, llike a true jew, he re-surfaces with the same old bullsh' once he thinks "the coast is clear"!.....hey jew-boy!....we'll acknowledge the HollowHoax when the MSM acknowledges the 100 million white Russians murdered by the judæo-bolsheviks 1920-1945!....and the 10million ethnic VolksDeutsch murdered by the same post-WWII!...ohh....and when comparable reparations have been granted too!...that's abt twenty times what the jews have extorted in the last fifty years!......should "ante up" to abt trillion!

(jimbo!)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/__jimbo__/regalia_mothercross_gold.jpg

And wha post was that there jimbo?

The chamber most likely followed these standards thus making it safe to remove a body after the procedures detailed have been completed.


Which shows you are wrong when you said gas masks are useless.

[quote=Slamin2;719963]This is a fucking lie - I never resorted to name calling and did not use it here until you started with your shit.


Easy for you to claim anything, jew. For JJT hard deleted the thread, so we have memory on which to rely. Those whom participated remember. You elect not to.

Does this comment you made here to tuisto sound familiar? It does to me, since you spent a good deal of your time rebutting argument and debate with the men on SF with such 'intelligent' sarcasm:


Orignally Posted by Slammin2
Are you telling us you have a sexual problem - is it the she males that have you enticed? Warm cock up the old dirt road your style?



I do not lie.



Then you obviously do not know who I am. I was not coddled, I was the poster Jack Boot had on permanent moderation, my posts lingered in the ether until he allowed them to appear, and I still held my own.

I know. I also remember and know that you complained mightility about it too. Being kept on moderation on SF is a not a show of anti-semitism at all. You were rude, abusive and refused to behave yourself; that is why you were on "permanent" moderation; considering your behaviour, you were extremely coddled and catered to on SF, you fool.

I was never called out or cowered dumb shit, I was banned because you or one of your ilk complained one last time.

You were called out, by Junkers and several others. You refused to reply. You thought to get others banned on Sf by calling them names; you left your debate on the floor whilst you did so. If someone complained about your conduct, demanding your banning; you deserved it. I was not one of them, since it was obvious to me after awhile that SF would do nothing proactive as regards to jewish fits of pique and insults to the Folk.

[quote]
You were called out, by Junkers and several others. You refused to reply.

Just one point, to show how you have lost all reason, how could I reply when I was banned?

(fuck what is it with you?)

Just one point, to show how you have lost all reason, how could I reply when I was banned?

(fuck what is it with you?)

Pitiful argument, absolutely pitiful. It took some time for you to be banned. Once you had been, of course no one bothered to address you.

I basically came to the conclusion some time ago that Socratian dialectics are utter bullshit because the only thing that matters is might not right hence there is no debate with jews. We leave that to be post-facto justified and get on with taking back what is ours; since jews don't care what is right they only care about what they can get away with

Which shows you are wrong when you said gas masks are useless.

They are useless right after a gassing, yes.

If you were not aware, HCN can pierce the skin not only but the filter on the gas mask is only partially effective.

Remember- it's the concentration, not the gas. If the concentration is high the gas mask wont be effective for long or wont be effective at all.

They are useless right after a gassing, yes.

If you were not aware, HCN can pierce the skin not only but the filter on the gas mask is only partially effective.

Remember- it's the concentration, not the gas. If the concentration is high the gas mask wont be effective for long or wont be effective at all.

You said they were useless - period.

They are not useless, the instructions from the manufacturer calls for their use.

The concentration need in the homicidal gas chamber is not HIGH. Its many times lower than what is needed in delousing.

Is there any other way to make this statement fact?

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Do you know that workers wore gas masks in the delousing chambers?

I know they didn't because HCN can pierce through brick, human skin would be like butter to a knife.
They only enter the delousing chamber after a lot of the gas has left, when the concentration is low enough for the mask to be effective.


You claimed the workers did not wear gas masks, I claim they did.

You are wrong. So suck it up.

Here's a test for you

Who wrote this?

"This is particularly true for those alleged 'gas chambers' without ventilation installations (crematoria IV and V and farmhouses I and II), since working in poorly ventilated 'gas chambers' with high concentrations of poison gas is impossible without gas masks."

Rudolf acknowledges the workers would have to wear masks.

What did you claim again? When I stated the workers wore masks?

Was it this? "I know they didn't "

Would that be a willful lie or just spoken from ignorance?

Your turn.

Pitiful argument, absolutely pitiful. It took some time for you to be banned. Once you had been, of course no one bothered to address you.



If I was on time delay, and being censored, how do you know I did not reply?

And yes, I was taunted after I was banned. I replied to every challenge just as I do here.

What happened to those relocation camps again? You know, the question you cannot answer.

If I was on time delay, and being censored, how do you know I did not reply?Awww, poor jew.

You didn't. You only posted more crap. You never answered a direct question, just as you are doing here.

And, yes, jew ... I do know.


Got a gassed body yet?

[QUOTE=Slamin2;719963]This is a fucking lie - I never resorted to name calling and did not use it here until you started with your shit.

Clintonesque behavior:

"I never did"

"I did" ..........but it's because......

How old are you?

[quote]

Clintonesque behavior:

"I never did"

"I did" ..........but it's because......

How old are you?

You sound more Jewish every day, did you know that? :rofl

You sound more Jewish every day, did you know that? :roflAwww ... jewboy can't answer a question.


Where's that gassed body, yehudon?

[quote=tuisto;720284]

You sound more Jewish every day, did you know that? :rofl

...knowing the jew's way without being one....
Hey, boy, time to call the Mossad death squad :)

[quote=Slamin2;720227]If I was on time delay, and being censored, how do you know I did not reply?

Wayne has answered you on that; as he said, he would know.

And yes, I was taunted after I was banned. I replied to every challenge just as I do here.

You were 'taunted'. So what. Why is this important. You are incapable of participating in a formal debate. You are too easily distracted; refusing to rise to the challenge of either informal or formal debate. Basically, you do not have what it takes.

You said they were useless - period.

They are not useless, the instructions from the manufacturer calls for their use.
I did not make such a statement. I always aim for specificity when speaking about chemistry which is why I said that flammability and explosiveness go hand in hand in this reaction (Even though it would be the same for a large amount of other reactions). If I did express myself in such a way that it seemed to you that I was generalizing then I assure you that it is not what I meant.


The concentration need in the homicidal gas chamber is not HIGH. Its many times lower than what is needed in delousing.
USA officials entered their gas chambers when the gas mixture in the air was below 50 ppm or else they would perish themselves.

TOXICITY
HCN is a powerful, quick acting poison. In humans and other warm-blooded animals it induces asphyxiation by inhibiting the
respiratory enzymes and renders tissues unable to absorb oxygen from the blood in the normal manner. The toxic action is
reversible. In practice, this means that a person who is completely unconscious from the effects of cyanide, but whose heart is still
beating, may still recover if suitable antidotes nod remedial measures are applied in time. HCN may be absorbed in toxic amounts
through the unbroken skin





Is there any other way to make this statement fact?
You might think it's small but were you aware that many gasses will kill you before you can smell them?

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You claimed the workers did not wear gas masks, I claim they did.

This is an outright lie.


They would introducing the gas, no doubt. Afterwards it'd be pointless.

But I see your wording- you mean that they did wear gas masks because the Holocaust did happen. Non, that's not true. I speak only in ifs so be sure to specify that next time.

Awww, poor jew.

You didn't. You only posted more crap. You never answered a direct question, just as you are doing here.

And, yes, jew ... I do know.


Got a gassed body yet?


Mauddib is that you?

And I answered this question, just because the answer does not suffice in your little paranoid universe, the answer will not change.

And I answered this question, ...Where's that gassed body, jew?

I did not make such a statement.


Actually you said you knew they were not used.



USA officials entered their gas chambers when the gas mixture in the air was below 50 ppm or else they would perish themselves.


The point being what exactly? Can you reference this claim?




You might think it's small but were you aware that many gasses will kill you before you can smell them?


No shit, that's why the SS had the marker removed from Zyklon B.


This is an outright lie.


It was your lie - go back and read your post.


They would introducing the gas, no doubt. Afterwards it'd be pointless.


While this is certainly a general statement - when afterwards? At what threshold is a mask no longer sufficient protection?


But I see your wording- you mean that they did wear gas masks because the Holocaust did happen. Non, that's not true. I speak only in ifs so be sure to specify that next time.

They did wear masks, in both the homicidal and delousing chambers.

If masks are useless, why does OSHA call for their use with HCN?

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/hydrogencyanide/recognition.html

"RESPIRATORY PROTECTION

* Conditions for respirator use

Good industrial hygiene practice requires that engineering controls be used where feasible to reduce workplace concentrations of hazardous materials to the prescribed exposure limit. However, some situations may require the use of respirators to control exposure. Respirators must be worn if the ambient concentration of hydrogen cyanide exceeds prescribed exposure limits. Respirators may be used (1) before engineering controls have been installed, (2) during work operations such as maintenance or repair activities that involve unknown exposures, (3) during operations that require entry into tanks or closed vessels, and (4) during emergencies. Workers should only use respirators that have been approved by NIOSH and the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA).
* Respiratory protection program

Employers should institute a complete respiratory protection program that, at a minimum, complies with the requirements of OSHA's Respiratory Protection Standard [29 CFR 1910.134]. Such a program must include respirator selection, an evaluation of the worker's ability to perform the work while wearing a respirator, the regular training of personnel, respirator fit testing, periodic workplace monitoring, and regular respirator maintenance, inspection, and cleaning. The implementation of an adequate respiratory protection program (including selection of the correct respirator) requires that a knowledgeable person be in charge of the program and that the program be evaluated regularly. For additional information on the selection and use of respirators and on the medical screening of respirator users, consult the latest edition of the NIOSH Respirator Decision Logic [NIOSH 1987b] and the NIOSH Guide to Industrial Respiratory Protection [NIOSH 1987a]."

The chambers were not crappy - they worked just fine.

How would you know this. You have to provide evidence of a gassed body to prove the "[gas] chambers" worked or even existed in the first place.

Actually you said you knew they were not used.
Because it never happened, can't you read?

I said that they were not used because it did not happen.




The point being what exactly? Can you reference this claim?
http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E0b.htm
Do you think it would take mere minutes to drag away that many bodies? It says clearly right here

"1. Do not breathe gas yourself even for a short time. If it does not overcome you, it will cut down your strength. Rescuers entering a contaminated area must be adequately protected with self-contained breathing apparatus and any necessary protective clothing. Canistertype gas masks are not dependable under such circumstances of possible high concentration."

Anything above 50 ppm is extremely dangerous.









It was your lie - go back and read your post.
Read it again and again, I said it would be mostly useless and it's true- it is mostly useless.



While this is certainly a general statement - when afterwards? At what threshold is a mask no longer sufficient protection?
Beyond 50-100 ppm.



They did wear masks, in both the homicidal and delousing chambers.

If masks are useless, why does OSHA call for their use with HCN?

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/hydrogencyanide/recognition.html

"RESPIRATORY PROTECTION

* Conditions for respirator use

Good industrial hygiene practice requires that engineering controls be used where feasible to reduce workplace concentrations of hazardous materials to the prescribed exposure limit. However, some situations may require the use of respirators to control exposure. Respirators must be worn if the ambient concentration of hydrogen cyanide exceeds prescribed exposure limits. Respirators may be used (1) before engineering controls have been installed, (2) during work operations such as maintenance or repair activities that involve unknown exposures, (3) during operations that require entry into tanks or closed vessels, and (4) during emergencies. Workers should only use respirators that have been approved by NIOSH and the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA).
* Respiratory protection program

Employers should institute a complete respiratory protection program that, at a minimum, complies with the requirements of OSHA's Respiratory Protection Standard [29 CFR 1910.134]. Such a program must include respirator selection, an evaluation of the worker's ability to perform the work while wearing a respirator, the regular training of personnel, respirator fit testing, periodic workplace monitoring, and regular respirator maintenance, inspection, and cleaning. The implementation of an adequate respiratory protection program (including selection of the correct respirator) requires that a knowledgeable person be in charge of the program and that the program be evaluated regularly. For additional information on the selection and use of respirators and on the medical screening of respirator users, consult the latest edition of the NIOSH Respirator Decision Logic [NIOSH 1987b] and the NIOSH Guide to Industrial Respiratory Protection [NIOSH 1987a]."
New filters are much more effective against it , yes.

Only the Soviet Union would invest significantly in weapons based on hydrogen cyanide. They had figured out that if you used a big enough charge in your bomb you got evaporative cooling that would allow production of an effective concentration at ground level. They had also developed spray tanks that allowed dissemination of enough agent to produce an effective concentration at ground level (with low altitude spraying). The Soviets also saw an advantage to the use of hydrogen cyanide in that most gas mask filters of the day worked relatively poorly against it. While the Soviets, like most countries, intended to use mustard gas as their main agent, they produced a significant quantity of hydrogen cyanide - figures are difficult to come by, but wartime (1940-1945) production totaled at least 11,104 tons.

http://www.cbwinfo.com/Chemical/Blood/AC.shtml

Same page as you are on-
* OSHA PEL

The current Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) permissible exposure limit (PEL) for hydrogen cyanide is 10 ppm (11 milligrams per cubic meter (mg/m(3))) as an 8-hour time-weighted average (TWA) concentration. The OSHA PEL also bears a "Skin" notation, which indicates that the cutaneous route of exposure (including mucous membranes and eyes) contributes to overall exposure [29 CFR 1910.1000, Table Z-1].

In delousing chambers they used them after 24-48 hours of fumigation through very large ports. This would be enough for relatively simple gas masks to do well against the gas and leave the concentration in the air low enough for clothing to be effective. Please cite a claim where the nazis used self-containing suits or gtfo, otherwise it makes no sense. :D

How would you know this. You have to provide evidence of a gassed body to prove the "[gas] chambers" worked or even existed in the first place.


I have provided it - putting your head in the sand doesn't make it any less real.

[QUOTE=psychologicalshock;721207]Because it never happened, can't you read?

I said that they were not used because it did not happen.
[/quote\

Bullshit - you didn't think they were used.

Saying the were not able to use them because they are ineffective is not the same as saying they were not used because the event did not happen.

If this is how you debate I won't waste me time any longer.

[QUOTE=psychologicalshock;721207]Because it never happened, can't you read?

I said that they were not used because it did not happen.
[/quote

Bullshit - you didn't think they were used.

Saying the were not able to use them because they are ineffective is not the same as saying they were not used because the event did not happen.

If this is how you debate I won't waste me time any longer.

There are two separate points
1. It didn't happen.

2. If it did happen it makes no sense.

We're debating point 2 so keep up with me and don't bring point 1 into this unless you can prove sufficiently it's not true. (Which is the point of all of your attempts)

I have provided it - ....Typical lying jew. You've provided nothing.

Where's that gassed body?

[quote=Slamin2;721272]

There are two separate points
1. It didn't happen.

2. If it did happen it makes no sense.

We're debating point 2 so keep up with me and don't bring point 1 into this unless you can prove sufficiently it's not true. (Which is the point of all of your attempts)

Then why sneak in a point 1 argument.

I think you are trying to prove its not true, not me.

Typical lying jew. You've provided nothing.

Where's that gassed body?

Unless you can show a body is required to prove murder its not needed.

Unless you can show a body is required to prove murder its not needed.One is needed to prove the cause of death.

Where's that gassed body?

One is needed to prove the cause of death.

Where's that gassed body?

But a conviction can still be obtained.

How can you determine cause of death from ashes poured into a river 60 years ago?

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/179898_navyside29x.html

But ...But, that's about all you jews have.

Where's that gassed body?

But, that's about all you jews have.

Where's that gassed body?

Can you show a body is required to prove murder?

Can you show a body is required to prove murder?

Slimmy devils, every Jew. Okay, you think ONE body that is missing and without evidence that it is okay to claim a murder? No body? But the word of the Jews is sufficent evidence even without any proof? Okay, the clever Germans were able to hide one dead Jew. But SIX MILLION BODIES??? Kind of hard to hide six million, don't you think? No, of course you don't think.

And Just as Ernst Zundel was railroaded into jail by the lying Jews because they claimed that "Truth is no defense" against Jewish lies, now you claim that merely by SAYING that there was a murder of Jews even when there is no evidence is good enough. And why? Because the Jews said so, that's why.

Okay without any bodies, let's use a bit of deduction, shall we? And see if we can find the missing six million kikenvermin (http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/6_Million_Myth.pdf).

Of course, you wil have to sift a lot of sand to find the corpses. But because the Jews say that they are all there, then just keep sifting.

Unless you can show a body is required to prove murder its not needed.

People, let's give Slamin a last chance!
Six is your lucky number, six times gassed!

Slam-king, the only way - in order to "completely debunk" Leuchter in the world's opinion is- that you step into one of the gas chambers which belonged
to his sphere of influence and get gassed.

We'll be all watching you survive, trust us! :)

After your survival, we'll all agree to a rabbi-assisted circumsion on all of us doubters (ladies included) and the day, where Leuchter's gas chamber proved to be a fraud, will be declared a national holiday called "Asses-Slamin-king-day".

Can you show a body is required to prove murder?One is needed to prove the cause of death.

Where's that gassed body?

But a conviction can still be obtained.


This is a ridiculous statement, this isn't a single murder it's 6 million. 6 million people can't disappear just like that and as far as it goes I haven't ever heard of automatic nazi bone crushers so no dice- where are the teeth? And even then the Jews admit not every body has been destroyed (As a lot were found) so where's the gassed kike?

Stop avoiding the question and out with it already! If you don't have the evidence then say so, if you just blindly believe this then say so, just quit pretending to have some sort of irrefutable evidence because you don't. Using the magical river that can sweep it all away is still not good enough!



Then why sneak in a point 1 argument.

I think you are trying to prove its not true, not me.

I am not sneaking anything in. I said the Holocaust didn't happen and put to you a handful of questions that suspended belief. If you can't answer these questions then the means by which it is claimed that it was done do not make sense and if they do not make sense then the crime is impossible by those means. Unofrtunately the court is over so you can only use those means, thus , if those means are not sufficient then you and everyone else who agree with the court are supporting an illegal court. If you're supporting an illegal court then no one is under any obligation to respect your beliefs which you sell as facts; thus, unless those questions can be answered very clearly and with the evidence available you should admit that you have supported an illegal court.

One is needed to prove the cause of death.

Where's that gassed body?

But is not necessary in a criminal prosecution, duh.


It goes like this - gas chamber >> Crematorium >>> ash dumped in river (or otherwise disposed of)

With a few exceptions when outdoor pyres were needed, there was no deviation at Auschwitz. Therefore, no matter how the question is asked, no gassed Jewish corpses are available.

This is a ridiculous statement, this isn't a single murder it's 6 million. 6 million people can't disappear just like that and as far as it goes I haven't ever heard of automatic nazi bone crushers so no dice- where are the teeth? And even then the Jews admit not every body has been destroyed (As a lot were found) so where's the gassed kike?


Since 6 million did not die at Auschwitz why ask a fool question like this? Building strawmen again?

How many corpses do you think were found unburied at Auschwitz? Do you know that gassing stopped several months before the camp was liberated? Do you think the SS kept dead Jews around for months?


The rest of you post was bullshit and will be ignored.

The rest of you post was bullshit and will be ignored.

All of your post is bullshit . That's just Jew speak for being unable to rebut me.

I don't mingle in if and then- the fact is that there were 8000 so called witnesses in Auschwitz and nearly none at Treblinka with the map of Treblinka drawn from the memory of a dead Jew and it was discussed for but 20 minutes . At any rate the ground in Treblinka wasn't disturbed and there is no reason to think that the Nazis would so carefully hide Treblinka whereas Auschwitz was a complete mess, especially considering that both took about the same time to deconstruct... = |

All of your post is bullshit . That's just Jew speak for being unable to rebut me.

I don't mingle in if and then- the fact is that there were 8000 so called witnesses in Auschwitz and nearly none at Treblinka with the map of Treblinka drawn from the memory of a dead Jew and it was discussed for but 20 minutes . At any rate the ground in Treblinka wasn't disturbed and there is no reason to think that the Nazis would so carefully hide Treblinka whereas Auschwitz was a complete mess, especially considering that both took about the same time to deconstruct... = |

With every post you display your ignornace, do you get spanked like this in all things? Nothing like half truths drawn from all over the place.

Auchwitz had a very large work camp, realy could not hide the camp.

Treblinka served one purpose - murder. Very small.

How do you know the ground at Treblinka was undisturbed?

But is not necessary in a criminal prosecution, duh.Yes, it is.

One is needed to prove the cause of death.

Where's that gassed body?

WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE
Moron.


Auchwitz had a very large work camp, realy could not hide the camp.
Are you an idiot?

Treblinka served one purpose - murder. Very small.
You are an idiot. You don't have to wreck all of Auschwitz to fucking cover it up considering it was a work camp. How hard can it be to burn some fucking hair?

Oh yeah and very small? 750,000 bodies dug up and disposed of by a minute staff armed with but hammers to crush bones and open bonfires which were dangerously close to a fence covered in dry pine... And they could go an extra few miles to dump all the ash out into the river. All the while German tanks barely had any fuel whereas the happy Treblinka staff was dousing thousands of bodies in fuel just for them to catch fire.


How do you know the ground at Treblinka was undisturbed?
Tests never turned up anything.

By the way are you ever going to answer my first questions? You haven't done any of them with any competence yet.

With every post you display your ignornace, do you get spanked like this in all things? Nothing like half truths drawn from all over the place.

Auchwitz had a very large work camp, realy could not hide the camp.

Treblinka served one purpose - murder. Very small.

How do you know the ground at Treblinka was undisturbed?

Treblinka! Ah, yes, Treblinka. All the German ineptitude that permeates the holycost fable from start to finish is on display at Treblinka.

The Germans decided to kill all the jews in Warsaw and its environs. So, what did they do?

Did they march them to the edge of a pit and machine-gun them and then cover them with a bull dozer? No. too quick and cheap for consideration by a government involved in a war for national survival.

Besides, like a good country song, a real holycost must have trains!

So the jews were all loaded onto trains. Now, there were about a dozen train de-lousing tunnels in the Nazi-occupied areas, where entire trains would enter the tunnel, the crew would exit, and cyanide gas was introduced into the train, penetrating every crack and crevice, thus killing all the disease-carrying lice in the train.

Did the Nazis haul the jews to the nearest de-lousing tunnel and perform the same operation with the jews on board, killing all of them in a few minutes, then haul them to a prepared pit in the countryside, where they were covered by a bull dozer? Nope. Too simple. Too cheap. Too deadly effective.

What they did was they constructed a camp at a town called Treblinka, for the sole purpose of gassing jews to death. Over three quarters of a million of them!

Did they use the same cyanide that they used in the train de-lousing tunnels? Nope. Too efficient.

Now you are probably thinking that because only the Germans had the binary nerve agent, Sarin, 500times as toxic as cyanide, and they had several tons of it which their lunatic Fuhrer refused to allow his military to use against the Red Army, that they just used a few pounds of that Sarin, which will kill in a minute or so, to snuff 750,000 jews. Wrong again. Much too cheap and efficient.

They decided to eschew Sarin and cyanide and use carbon monoxide!

Now, since there were more than half a million wood gas generators in use in the areas under German control, and said wood gas generators produce carbon monoxide in concentrations some 30 times that of a gasoline engine, you probably think they used them, which would require only wood for fuel, and get the job done. Much slower than cyanide, and infinitely slower than sarin, but done, nevertheless. But you would be wrong again!

You probably think that the stupid Nazis went the next step down the ladder of lethality and used a gasoline engine. After all, there were gasoline engines everywhere, since the shortage of diesel fuel required the Germans to use gasoline engines virtually exclusively, even in their tanks. Again, you would be wrong.

Of course you are not to be faulted for thinking first that they would use sarin, then cyanide, then a wood gas generator, and, lastly, a gasoline engine. But you just do not understand the full extent of he stupidity of the Nazis. Not having a full appreciation of their infinite stupidity you would never guess what they used, so I will tell you:

They found a captured Soviet diesel tank engine, for which they had no repair manual and no spare parts, and which used precious diesel as fuel, and had to be loaded and run at capacity to produce exhaust that even approached the lethal level, and that is what they used to kill 750,000 jews at Treblinka!

I know it is hard to believe that the Germans were that galactically stupid, but you must believe it. If you don't, you can be sentenced to five years in a German prison!

Are you an idiot?


Do you think Auschwitz was not a work camp? That it did not have provisions for labor?


You are an idiot. You don't have to wreck all of Auschwitz to fucking cover it up considering it was a work camp. How hard can it be to burn some fucking hair?


There were whole rooms of hair, what does hair prove? I have no idea what this argument means.


Oh yeah and very small? 750,000 bodies dug up and disposed of by a minute staff armed with but hammers to crush bones and open bonfires which were dangerously close to a fence covered in dry pine... And they could go an extra few miles to dump all the ash out into the river. All the while German tanks barely had any fuel whereas the happy Treblinka staff was dousing thousands of bodies in fuel just for them to catch fire.


Treblinka was an extermination camp, not a work or slave labor facility.


Tests never turned up anything.


What tests?


By the way are you ever going to answer my first questions? You haven't done any of them with any competence yet.

Which ones are those, you ask so many that are irrelevant?

[quote=Slamin2;722170]
Treblinka was an extermination camp, not a work or slave labor facility.


Where's the gassed/holocausted jew remains to prove this.

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Where's the gassed/holocausted jew remains to prove this.

They all moved to places like Brazil, Argentina, China, America, Canada, etc., but not as Jews, they all ran away claiming that they were something, anything, besides Jews. Thus, they disappeared without a trace, except for the ones who paid tattoo artists five dollars to write a number on their arms so that they could get free money from Germany as "reparations" for their suffering while they were on the beach in Rio de Janaro.

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Where's the gassed/holocausted jew remains to prove this.


Those evil Germans dashed the remains into the rivers of tears of the lamenting holocausted jews, a suffering of never before experienced dimensions.
Those rivers turned into streams, strong enough to carry the holy reliquiae
of the holocausted ones (Halleluia!) into the oceans of the earth, their teeth to be swallowed - though never digested - many times and over and over by smaller fish and the holy bones by bigger creatures of the oceans.
They will henceforth live in all eternity as an accusing memory and as an atonement for the sins of those light skinned people in general and Germans in particular.
What happened to Jesus on an individual level was completed by the collectiv jewish suffering (at the vicious hands of the Germans).
The human race remembers this atonement with it's yearly holo-memorial-day.
Praise be to Judea and all those who venerate it!
Halleluia!!!


:)

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They all moved to places like Brazil, Argentina, China, America, Canada, etc., but not as Jews, they all ran away claiming that they were something, anything, besides Jews. Thus, they disappeared without a trace, except for the ones who paid tattoo artists five dollars to write a number on their arms so that they could get free money from Germany as "reparations" for their suffering while they were on the beach in Rio de Janaro.

A statement for which Billy Boy has not one iota of proof.

[quote=Slamin2;722846]
Originally Posted by EireannGoddess http://www.vnnforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=722214#post722214) [Should read BanjoBilly ]

They all moved to places like Brazil, Argentina, China, America, Canada, etc., but not as Jews, they all ran away claiming that they were something, anything, besides Jews. Thus, they disappeared without a trace, except for the ones who paid tattoo artists five dollars to write a number on their arms so that they could get free money from Germany as "reparations" for their suffering while they were on the beach in Rio de Janaro
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you have credited the post made by Banjo Billy to myself - it's a device you used to employ on SF too,

any news on that missing 'gassed' jew corpse? You jews have had more than half a century to locate the remains.

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you have credited the post made by Banjo Billy to myself - it's a device you used to employ on SF too,

any news on that missing 'gassed' jew corpse? You have had more than half a century to locate the remains.

That was the software - I'm hardly the only person who has done that - doesn't make the point any less valid.

I clearly addressed Bango in the text of my reply.

[quote=banjo_billy;722277]

A statement for which Billy Boy has not one iota of proof.

Ah yes! The traditional method used by all criminals when confronted with the accusations against them. Slimy2 instantly recognizes that the secret is out and attempts to cover his tracks.

That was the software - I'm hardly the only person who has done that - doesn't make the point any less valid.

I clearly addressed Bango in the text of my reply.

The software 'glitch' is easily corrected; if one checks after posting.

Your reply, such as it is, was not clear; and, it was a ploy you used on SF as well, which would then require several posts to correct, by both the original poster and the mis-quoted. Anything to take the thread off topic when you either had nothing to say or had no answer to a specific post. In fact, you have yet to answer or address much argument, anyways.

Ah yes! The traditional method used by all criminals when confronted with the accusations against them. Slimy2 instantly recognizes that the secret is out and attempts to cover his tracks.

So then you have no evidence correct? Just unfounded speculation, which is totally worthless.

The software 'glitch' is easily corrected; if one checks after posting.

Your reply, such as it is, was not clear; and, it was a ploy you used on SF as well, which would then require several posts to correct, by both the original poster and the mis-quoted. Anything to take the thread off topic when you either had nothing to say or had no answer to a specific post. In fact, you have yet to answer or address much argument, anyways.

That's rich -- good reply, next time try something worth reading :rofl

That's rich -- good reply, next time try something worth reading

Still no proof of one gassed jew, I see. Where are the remains, holocaustians have had more than 50 years to produce them. Now, there's a question you have been side-stepping, with all your nonsensical posting and misquotes about everything but that.

Still no proof of one gassed jew, I see. Where are the remains, holocaustians have had more than 50 years to produce them. Now, there's a question you have been side-stepping, with all your nonsensical posting and misquotes about everything but that.

Thousands of bodies were left unburied and many were exhumed, drawings and work orders for the crematoria were discovered and clear evidence of genocide is now public

Maybe your Yale education discussed the confluence of evidence - or will you admit you lied about your education

an untermensch you clearly are

So then you have no evidence correct? Just unfounded speculation, which is totally worthless.

I have some evidence that I am looking for in my archives. First person evidence. I filed it many years ago and finding it is difficult. When I dig it out, I'll post it.

But like most kikenvermin, you ignore evidence for your assertions but demand that everyone else give you evidence (which you never accept since it overturns your lies). I have evidence but you have no evidence that any Jews were ever gassed or exterminated. No bodies, no ashes, no facilities and no written evidence, and yet you kikenvermin have built up a complete mythology upon nothing but your lies.

If a Jew says it, it must be true no matter how preposterous, right, Slimy2? Or is it, SlimyOne?

Jews From Their Lips #25

I have some evidence that I am looking for in my archives. First person evidence. I filed it many years ago and finding it is difficult. When I dig it out, I'll post it.

But like most kikenvermin, you ignore evidence for your assertions but demand that everyone else give you evidence (which you never accept since it overturns your lies). I have evidence but you have no evidence that any Jews were ever gassed or exterminated. No bodies, no ashes, no facilities and no written evidence, and yet you kikenvermin have built up a complete mythology upon nothing but your lies.

If a Jew says it, it must be true no matter how preposterous, right, Slimy2? Or is it, SlimyOne?

Jews From Their Lips #25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuRG_WV8n-A)

Then I awat the evidence to prove this - "They all moved to places like Brazil, Argentina, China, America, Canada, etc., but not as Jews, they all ran away claiming that they were something, anything, besides Jews. Thus, they disappeared without a trace, except for the ones who paid tattoo artists five dollars to write a number on their arms so that they could get free money from Germany as "reparations" for their suffering while they were on the beach in Rio de Janaro."

Oh, L-rd... I feel a little stupider just for reading that ridiculous theory.

No, it was the NAZIS that moved to Brazil and Argentina.

WHY in the WORLD would Jews want to follow the trail of ex-nazis who still had the wealth they had stolen from Catholics, gays, unionists, and their own people?

Oh, L-rd... I feel a little stupider just for reading that ridiculous theory.

No, it was the NAZIS that moved to Brazil and Argentina.

WHY in the WORLD would Jews want to follow the trail of ex-nazis who still had the wealth they had stolen from Catholics, gays, unionists, and their own people?

You answered your own question -- wealth. Jews sniff after wealth like pigs sniff after truffels.

I couldn't tell you anything about pigs. I don't eat dog food, myself.

But I'm closer to Judaism and I don't sniff after wealth. As a matter of fact, the Torah tells us that we are to use our wealth to care for the widow and the orphan. The Jewish Messiah tells us that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven.

Of course, he also said a Jew is not one who is merely Jewish outwardly, but that it is a condition of the heart. Certainly, there are many who are only Jewish on the surface, or by birth, just like many claim Christianity, but do not practice the love for their fellow man which Yeshua (AKA Jesus) told them was the second most important command of all (Second only to loving G-d with our whole being).

I couldn't tell you anything about pigs. I don't eat dog food, myself.

But I'm closer to Judaism and I don't sniff after wealth. As a matter of fact, the Torah tells us that we are to use our wealth to care for the widow and the orphan. The Jewish Messiah tells us that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter heaven.

Of course, he also said a Jew is not one who is merely Jewish outwardly, but that it is a condition of the heart. Certainly, there are many who are only Jewish on the surface, or by birth, just like many claim Christianity, but do not practice the love for their fellow man which Yeshua (AKA Jesus) told them was the second most important command of all (Second only to loving G-d with our whole being).


The reason why you are not obsessed by wealth and take judaism by its face value is because you were not born a Jew.

So am I to believe that you, who hates the Jews, knows more about them than me, who while not being BORN Jewish, HAVE gone to synagogue, studied with them, taken Hebrew classes, in order to study the scriptures in the original language, and have spent countless hours talking to Jewish laypeople and clergy?

I suppose you believe even the clergy are in on some huge conspiracy? That despite all the obstacles they throw at converts, that we'll never really be considered Jewish, and allowed in on the secret? So then, the prohibition against EVEN MENTIONING that a particular Jew is a convert, is just part of the scam, too?

Wake up and smell reality.

So am I to believe that you, who hates the Jews, knows more about them than me, who while not being BORN Jewish, HAVE gone to synagogue, studied with them, taken Hebrew classes, in order to study the scriptures in the original language, and have spent countless hours talking to Jewish laypeople and clergy?

I suppose you believe even the clergy are in on some huge conspiracy? That despite all the obstacles they throw at converts, that we'll never really be considered Jewish, and allowed in on the secret? So then, the prohibition against EVEN MENTIONING that a particular Jew is a convert, is just part of the scam, too?

Wake up and smell reality.

Don't you know there is a super secret special handshake that is used between those that know the secrets of the Holocaust?

The reason why you are not obsessed by wealth and take judaism by its face value is because you were not born a Jew.


You think only jews are obsessed by wealth as if to suggest non jews aren't. The richest people in the world are both jews and non jews, and there are many thousands upon thousands of non jews who are all greedy and selfish as well. Bill Gates isn't jewish to my knowledge and we all know how wealthy he is. We all know how greedy microsoft are. Get a fucking clue.

So am I to believe that you, who hates the Jews, knows more about them than me, who while not being BORN Jewish, HAVE gone to synagogue, studied with them, taken Hebrew classes, in order to study the scriptures in the original language, and have spent countless hours talking to Jewish laypeople and clergy?

I suppose you believe even the clergy are in on some huge conspiracy? That despite all the obstacles they throw at converts, that we'll never really be considered Jewish, and allowed in on the secret? So then, the prohibition against EVEN MENTIONING that a particular Jew is a convert, is just part of the scam, too?

Wake up and smell reality.

Rabbis are not "clergy", you moron. That's a word used for Christian priests.

So, how much of the Babylonian Talmud have you studied, you dumb shit? You read a few words of Hebrew and think you know something? Better get into the Aramaic so you can read what the kikes REALLY study.

Jews From Their Lips #15

Studied the Scriptures in the original languages? You are deluded. And the Jews relish deluding you even more, you sucker. You fool.

Oh, L-rd... I feel a little stupider just for reading that ridiculous theory.

No, it was the NAZIS that moved to Brazil and Argentina.

WHY in the WORLD would Jews want to follow the trail of ex-nazis who still had the wealth they had stolen from Catholics, gays, unionists, and their own people?

Now, I understand why you can feel a little stupider since it doesn't take much to make you actually stupid.

You think only jews are obsessed by wealth as if to suggest non jews aren't.

Jews are ~2-3% of Americas population yet 9/10 of the most powerful media magnates are Jews. How do you explain that? If you are going to say Jews are more able people then you have just committed Jewish superiority and thus have proven that the Talmud is indeed in effect. So try to explain this, I am all ears.

Here's an illustration if you doubt me
http://www.mediachannel.org/images/media-moguls-1200X849.jpg

The richest people in the world are both jews and non jews, and there are many thousands upon thousands of non jews who are all greedy and selfish as well. Bill Gates isn't jewish to my knowledge and we all know how wealthy he is. We all know how greedy microsoft are. Get a fucking clue.
Steve Ballmer is the CEO of Microsoft, not Bill Gates.

Rabbis are not "clergy", you moron. That's a word used for Christian priests.

So, how much of the Babylonian Talmud have you studied, you dumb shit? You read a few words of Hebrew and think you know something? Better get into the Aramaic so you can read what the kikes REALLY study.

Jews From Their Lips #15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmzgC0lxnkk)

Studied the Scriptures in the original languages? You are deluded. And the Jews relish deluding you even more, you sucker. You fool.

http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=define:clergy&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Clearly, while some would agree with you, there is plenty of room for dissent, as well.

I have read some of the Talmud. Enough to see how very little those people understand it who use it to beat Jews over the head with.

By its very nature, the Talmud has never and COULD never be placed on the same authoritative level as the Torah. The Torah lays out clear, specific guidelines for what Hashem wants us to do. The Talmud is quite the opposite. It is a conversation among a few Rabbis, and shows them debating more than it shows them agreeing.

But even as I continue the conversion process, I will not be associating myself with the "Orthodox." Yeshua (AKA Jesus) spoke against such people, who confuse the laws of men with dictates of G-d. It's fine to HAVE cultural rules, but we must never confuse the two. G-d says a man should not cut the corners of his beard, or mar his temple, so I don't do these things. G-d does NOT say that I can only walk so far out of my house without covering my head, so I don't worry about these silly manmade rules that the Orthodox concern themselves with.

I identify most closely with the Conservatives, and somewhat with the Chasidim, so throwing the Talmud at me is never going to work.

The Talmud to me is on the same level as the writings of Paul-

There are plenty of good messages in either, which believers would do well to learn from. However, I can show either to be in conflict with the true scriptures, and so I can never consider either to be on that same level, and would never defend them as if they WERE written directly by G-d.

(So *I'M* the dumb shit, but YOU don't even understand that Aramaic is basically just another script of Hebrew? I couldn't invite you to my son's Bar Mitzvah without using Aramaic. I think YOU should go do some studying before you talk shit. I bet I've forgotten more Aramaic words than you know.)

Oh, L-rd... I feel a little stupider just for reading that ridiculous theory.
No, it was the NAZIS that moved to Brazil and Argentina.
WHY in the WORLD would Jews want to follow the trail of ex-nazis who still had the wealth they had stolen from Catholics, gays, unionists, and their own people?

What is a NAZI other than a National Zionist?

A National Socialist would be at best a Nazo.

The word "nazi" was invented by JEWS to denigrate Germans, another blatant T.J.B.lie. :o

Yes indeed, the "NAZIS" = JEWS went to South America :p

Clearly, while some would agree with you, there is plenty of room for dissent, as well.
Even your own Google link doesn't leave much room for dissent. Rabbis are not clergy, face the facts, you dumb shit.


I have read some of the Talmud. Enough to see how very little those people understand it who use it to beat Jews over the head with.

A typical moron! So, you have read "some" of the Talmud. Was that "some" enough to beat any Jews over the head with? Obviously not! If you had actually read the Talmud, you would be out beating Jews over the head with it. In the good old days, the Christians would wrap a rabbi up in the Talmud scrolls and light him on fire. A great tradition that needs repetition!


By its very nature, the Talmud has never and COULD never be placed on the same authoritative level as the Torah. Yes, you are right as far as you go and as far as you know. However, the evil rabbis did just the opposite of what you believe. You have been suckered and swindled, you idiot.

The Torah lays out clear, specific guidelines for what Hashem wants us to do. The Talmud is quite the opposite. It is a conversation among a few Rabbis, and shows them debating more than it shows them agreeing.
You didn't read enough of it to know what you are talking about, dumb shit.

But even as I continue the conversion process, I will not be associating myself with the "Orthodox." Yeshua (AKA Jesus) spoke against such people, who confuse the laws of men with dictates of G-d. It's fine to HAVE cultural rules, but we must never confuse the two. G-d says a man should not cut the corners of his beard, or mar his temple, so I don't do these things. G-d does NOT say that I can only walk so far out of my house without covering my head, so I don't worry about these silly manmade rules that the Orthodox concern themselves with.

You really are dumb. You say, "Yeshua (AKA Jesus) spoke against such people, who confuse the laws of men with dictates of G-d." Yashuah spoke against ALL Jews. All Jews are devils and ALL of them follow the teachings of the Talmud. The rabbis can't become rabbis by only knowing the Bible, they must become experts at the Talmud. Even when they speak of the two, they decieve you. When a rabbi says, "I study the Torah." He means the Old Testament. When a rabbi says, "I study Torah." He means BOTH the Old Testament AND the Talmud.

The Jews are deceiving you, you idiot. You are like the Christians who think that what is found in the Old Testament is what a Jew is. Wrong.

I identify most closely with the Conservatives, and somewhat with the Chasidim, so throwing the Talmud at me is never going to work.

Oh, yes, it will work, you dumb fuck. Now that I got you in my net, you are going to listen up or perish, you fucking little carp. I will turn you into giffilta fish and put you in a jar, you traitor.

The Talmud to me is on the same level as the writings of Paul-

There are plenty of good messages in either, which believers would do well to learn from. However, I can show either to be in conflict with the true scriptures, and so I can never consider either to be on that same level, and would never defend them as if they WERE written directly by G-d. .)

Not exactly, but close. Paul was a lying Pharisee, who betrayed Christ with his Jewish writings and bullshit. The Talmud is the work of HUNDREDS of lying Pharisees who betrayed all of Mankind with their Jewish writings and bullshit. So, there is a similarity, but not like you think there is, you Idiot.


(So *I'M* the dumb shit, but YOU don't even understand that Aramaic is basically just another script of Hebrew? I couldn't invite you to my son's Bar Mitzvah without using Aramaic. I think YOU should go do some studying before you talk shit. I bet I've forgotten more Aramaic words than you know.)

Finally, we agree that, yes, you are the dumb shit. And to further prove it, you confuse an alphabet with a language. English and French are unintelligible to each other, but both use the same alphabet. If Aramaic uses a script like Hebrew, that doesn't mean that you can understand what you read unless you also speak the language, you dumb shit.

And again, you prove that you are a dumb shit, when you say "I think YOU should go do some studying before you talk shit." And why? Because, isn't it obvious to you that I have already done some studying and, therefore, the only one who is talking shit is you.

I've got you in my net, Little Fish. Wiggle all you want, you can't escape because if you do, you are going to hell.

It really depends on how one DEFINES language, doesn't it Billy?

Some say that common language should reflect the dictionary's definition. This, of course, flies in the face of HOW written language came about, and say is the method I find counter-intuitive.

Others say that it is the dictionary which should be adapted to fit common manners of speaking. I subscribe to this philosophy.

Although either way, given that I DO see half a dozen definitions, which WOULD include Rabbis in "clergy" you'll need to prove one of the others to be the most authoritative on the list, if you expect me to concede the point.



You didn't read enough of it to know what you are talking about

I'm always subject to rebuke. Feel free to explain it to me. If I have in my hands a text in which 4 people debate hundreds of issues, and many OF their conflicting views can not reasonably be reconciled one to the other, how could I possibly consider all 4 to BE authoritative? Here's your chance.. you think you have such a better understanding? You want to disprove my assumption, that you've never actually opened a Talmud, but only read little clips from Jew-hater sites? Go for it. I can admit when I'm wrong, but I've seen nothing so far to tell me you have even a preliminary understanding of the Talmud.



Yashuah spoke against ALL Jews. All Jews are devils and ALL of them follow the teachings of the Talmud.

You have a source on those claims? I can save you the trouble on the latter part. The Talmud is considered authoritative ONLY by the Orthodox. It is the primary "line in the sand" between Conservativism and Orthodoxy.. Conservatives consider only the Tanakh to be authoritative, while Orthodox follow various rules put forth in the Talmud, as well.

Now that I got you in my net, you are going to listen up or perish, you fucking little carp. I will turn you into giffilta fish and put you in a jar, you traitor.

*holds out his arm*

Oooh... see that? That's me not shaking. :D


Not exactly, but close. Paul was a lying Pharisee, who betrayed Christ with his Jewish writings and bullshit. The Talmud is the work of HUNDREDS of lying Pharisees who betrayed all of Mankind with their Jewish writings and bullshit. So, there is a similarity, but not like you think there is, you Idiot.

No, you've got it exactly backwards.

Every single message Yeshua taught can be found in the Torah. In fact, John makes clear that He was, in fact, the Torah-made-flesh (John 1:14).

However, the same is not true of Paul. Paul spoke many messages which did not come from the Torah. Torah teaches equality of genders. Women could own and inherit land, make business decisions, Aharon and Moshe's sister Maryam was even a prophet, and Queen Esther's rulings, both civil and religious, were submitted to (and G-d smiled upon the people for this). Yet Paul says a woman should submit in all things, she should never teach a man, or have authority over a man. He curses those who teach differently from him, even if that other teacher be an angel sent straight from heaven (Galatians 1). He CLAIMS to be a Jew, but his teachings are not Jewish. This explains why every time he got himself in trouble, he either appealed to Rome for help, or appealed through his status as a Roman citizen (which the Jews were NOT).


And to further prove it, you confuse an alphabet with a language. English and French are unintelligible to each other, but both use the same alphabet. If Aramaic uses a script like Hebrew, that doesn't mean that you can understand what you read unless you also speak the language, you dumb shit.

Once again, you are SO wrong, that it really isn't possible for you to BE any more wrong.

Aramaic uses a DIFFERENT script, a DIFFERENT alphabet, BUT once one understands the correlation between the Aramaic and Hebrew letters, one will have no trouble translating one into the other, since over 75% of the words are the same (though they LOOK different).

I've got you in my net, Little Fish. Wiggle all you want, you can't escape because if you do, you are going to hell.

Still waiting on the scripture to support that. I'll take my chances. Because being versed in the scriptures, I understand the nature of heaven and hell, of salvation and the grave. I understand that all have sinned, and only by the grace of G-d may ANY of us escape our just punishment. I also understand the parable of the forgiven debtor, and know that grace is only extended to those who themselves extend grace to others.. Even as the L-rd's Prayer says "Forgive us our trespasses, as we also forgive those who trespass against us." We will each stand alone on Judgement Day, Billy. I am quite confident that the best defense attorney money can't buy will stand with me. Are you?

It really depends on how one DEFINES language, doesn't it Billy?

Some say that common language should reflect the dictionary's definition. This, of course, flies in the face of HOW written language came about, and say is the method I find counter-intuitive.

Others say that it is the dictionary which should be adapted to fit common manners of speaking. I subscribe to this philosophy. ... I can admit when I'm wrong, but I've seen nothing so far to tell me you have even a preliminary understanding of the Talmud.

Oh Man! You are really fucked up! The Jews have turned you into a lying scum bag just like them. You are one of those whom Jesus spoke about when he rebuked the kikenvermin for turning their disciples into evil creatures just like them, for closing the doors of heaven to those who seek the truth.

First, know that I own a complete copy of the entire Babylonian Talmud, Soncino edition, 1935.

Second, don't assume that I want to convince you of anything. You have already proven to be not even in my league intellectually. You have already proven to be uneducated with even the most average knowledge that an ordinary Jew has (mainly because the Jews have deceived you). And you have already proven to be just as stupid as the Jews are in your belief that lies, swindles, frauds, deceptions, red herrings, false innocense and demands for unending proof, are ways for winning a debate.

You have already lost, you idiot, but you are too stupid to realize it.

You are already corrupt and you have been further corrupted by the Jews. Little fish, you are going to the Fry. I want nothing more to do with you.

That's all you got? "you're fucked up" ?

That hardly counts as rebuke, Billy Boy.

SHOW me lies. SHOW me inconsistencies. SHOW me deceit. SHOW me frauds. That's ALL I've asked you to do... Quit talking out of your ass, and back up SOMETHING you're claiming about me. But, no, by now I know better than to think you'd bother even trying. I'm not sure if it's because you already have a cheerleading squad that'll back you up regardless, or because you know in your hearts of hearts that you're pulling half of this crap out of thin air, but it matters little. The end result is the same.

You don't need to own the Talmud, dipshit. It's widely available online. You kinda proved me point, that you have no desire to actually READ it, think for YOURSELF, and DISCERN what it says. No, instead you're content to let other people do your thinking FOR you, and TELL you about it.

You're right, Billy. We're not in the same league. I've invited you to back up your claims with evidence, and the closest thing I get is a vague statement that so-and-so sourced it SOMEwhere in your message board, and it's MY fault for not reading every last freaking post anyone has ever made here. I even made clear that I WILL recant my position, if it can be proven that I'm wrong. But you don't have the guts for that sort of thing. No, I get nothing but insults. So good riddance. I wish I could believe that you really MEANT it that you want nothing more to do with me. But I've dealt with trolls before. I'm sure you'll pop up from under your bridge to throw a little mud here and there, before beating a hasty retreat back down, just like you're doing now.

That's all you got? "you're fucked up" ?


You lost, Shabbos dirt. Face the facts. You're just a stupid schlammazel that the kikes have fucked.

I gave you some evidence in post #218 and you didn't even look at it. You've been corrupted by the Jews and are doomed.