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stewie
June 26th, 2004, 08:00 PM
many white immigrants to the u.s, australia and canada are classed as scotch-irish. however the majority contain no irish blood. on travelling, scot stopped over in ireland then caught a boat from ireland to the nation of choice. On their visas was stamped scotch irish.

Now there are too many people who beleive themselves to be irish when they arent. People dropped the scotch and kept the irish.

just sum information

MOMUS
June 26th, 2004, 09:26 PM
Scots-Irish is correct. Your history summary is correct as far as it goes. They were mostly Scots protestants settled in Ireland by the crown.
The Scots tribe originally came from Ireland though, so it works out in the long run, eh?
They stopped over at the old sod for a few decades on their way to tribal glory in the Southern Confederacy.

many white immigrants to the u.s, australia and canada are classed as scotch-irish. however the majority contain no irish blood. on travelling, scot stopped over in ireland then caught a boat from ireland to the nation of choice. On their visas was stamped scotch irish.

Now there are too many people who beleive themselves to be irish when they arent. People dropped the scotch and kept the irish.

just sum information

Abzug Hoffman
June 27th, 2004, 10:41 AM
many white immigrants to the u.s, australia and canada are classed as scotch-irish. however the majority contain no irish blood. on travelling, scot stopped over in ireland then caught a boat from ireland to the nation of choice. On their visas was stamped scotch irish.

Now there are too many people who beleive themselves to be irish when they arent. People dropped the scotch and kept the irish.

just sum information


Jew World Order of last century - Convince people they are something they are not. Give them a completely false glorious history. Get them to marrry black people.
http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/

... Because of the continuous drain of Irish men to fight in the Spanish wars in the Netherlands ("the Flight of the Wild Geese") and because of the allied involvement of the Irish nobility with the Spanish cause against England which caused the Flight of the Earls, Ireland -- within one generation of the Armada's loss -- was left powerless and leaderless. Without Spanish aid the common Irish were left stranded to contend with the might of the English military and political system. Without the guidance of the Irish upper-class, the peasants remained impotent for centuries under the rule of a hostile foreign crown.

It would thus seem improper to lend to the myth of the Black Irish such a positive air if the transfer of Spanish blood to Irish peasants is to be seen as symbolically marking the Irish as the heirs to the defeated Catholic champions of Europe (the Spanish), for it was the Spanish themselves who gave the 'kiss of death' to Ireland as it simultaneously lost to their common English enemy and drained the country of its political leaders, its military defenders, and its guiding intelligentsia. Spanish blood, coupled with Irish blood, would be better seen as a corrupting liquid that should be bled from the body politic and denied rather than cherished, remembered, and mythologized.

Yet it seems that the legend of the Hispanic Irish, told by the 'Blacks' and white Irish alike, transmits with it an inherent quality that the alleged descendants are proud to mention. The myth -- however long it may have existed prior to the XXth century -- is told as a manner of associating oneself and one's Irish family with a glorious past. This benevolent attitude and association of the Irish to the Spanish may be the myth's purpose, the 'why' of its existence. But given the fact that mythic hermeneutics change given different time-space coordinates, further investigation of the time of its alleged conception (both figurative and literal) renders a different intent of the myth's creators, namely, to disavow discomfiting chapter in Irish history and to mask the "Black Chapter."

There exists no corroborating evidence to support the story of shipwrecked Spanish sailor's relations with Irish women and their resultant progeny. There does exist, however, a quantity of written testimony describing instances in which members of the Spanish Armada's shipwrecked crew were stripped naked, robbed and delivered over to English authorities or summarily murdered by the Catholic Irish peasants themselves...

WHITEMAN 88
June 28th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Jew World Order of last century - Convince people they are something they are not. Give them a completely false glorious history. Get them to marrry black people.
http://www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/

... Because of the continuous drain of Irish men to fight in the Spanish wars in the Netherlands ("the Flight of the Wild Geese") and because of the allied involvement of the Irish nobility with the Spanish cause against England which caused the Flight of the Earls, Ireland -- within one generation of the Armada's loss -- was left powerless and leaderless. Without Spanish aid the common Irish were left stranded to contend with the might of the English military and political system. Without the guidance of the Irish upper-class, the peasants remained impotent for centuries under the rule of a hostile foreign crown.

It would thus seem improper to lend to the myth of the Black Irish such a positive air if the transfer of Spanish blood to Irish peasants is to be seen as symbolically marking the Irish as the heirs to the defeated Catholic champions of Europe (the Spanish), for it was the Spanish themselves who gave the 'kiss of death' to Ireland as it simultaneously lost to their common English enemy and drained the country of its political leaders, its military defenders, and its guiding intelligentsia. Spanish blood, coupled with Irish blood, would be better seen as a corrupting liquid that should be bled from the body politic and denied rather than cherished, remembered, and mythologized.

Yet it seems that the legend of the Hispanic Irish, told by the 'Blacks' and white Irish alike, transmits with it an inherent quality that the alleged descendants are proud to mention. The myth -- however long it may have existed prior to the XXth century -- is told as a manner of associating oneself and one's Irish family with a glorious past. This benevolent attitude and association of the Irish to the Spanish may be the myth's purpose, the 'why' of its existence. But given the fact that mythic hermeneutics change given different time-space coordinates, further investigation of the time of its alleged conception (both figurative and literal) renders a different intent of the myth's creators, namely, to disavow discomfiting chapter in Irish history and to mask the "Black Chapter."

There exists no corroborating evidence to support the story of shipwrecked Spanish sailor's relations with Irish women and their resultant progeny. There does exist, however, a quantity of written testimony describing instances in which members of the Spanish Armada's shipwrecked crew were stripped naked, robbed and delivered over to English authorities or summarily murdered by the Catholic Irish peasants themselves...


The war against the Netherlands was to stop the house of Orange and its jew bankers exporting usury (which in Catholic countries was illegal ) to the rest of Europe.
The peasants of both Britain and Ireland remained powerless against the court jew imposed aristocracy, because they never had any weapons. In both Britain and Ireland peasants revolts were put down ? Your point is what ?

The term black Irish is used in a lateral context. Remember the Irish are very much lateral thinkers (poets, writers, artists etc). Example, someone once said to me, the rain is very wet (a lateral way of saying, the rain is very heavy).
Black Irish refers to Irish with black hair etc. There are Irish, in remote areas who to this day have never seen a black.
Irish origins are genetically Alpine (Celt), via what is now the Basque country in Spain and also Norman, Saxon, Viking etc.

Abzug Hoffman
June 28th, 2004, 09:11 PM
The war against the Netherlands was to stop the house of Orange and its jew bankers exporting usury (which in Catholic countries was illegal ) to the rest of Europe.
The peasants of both Britain and Ireland remained powerless against the court jew imposed aristocracy, because they never had any weapons. In both Britain and Ireland peasants revolts were put down ? Your point is what ?

The term black Irish is used in a lateral context. Remember the Irish are very much lateral thinkers (poets, writers, artists etc). Example, someone once said to me, the rain is very wet (a lateral way of saying, the rain is very heavy).
Black Irish refers to Irish with black hair etc. There are Irish, in remote areas who to this day have never seen a black.
Irish origins are genetically Alpine (Celt), via what is now the Basque country in Spain and also Norman, Saxon, Viking etc.

My point was, Black Irish stories are goofy.