View Full Version : Was Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett a Racist?
MOMUS
June 26th, 2004, 10:31 PM
All I know is that in the movie, The Wall , when the musician character Pink goes psycho he becomes a racist. Great imagery.
Was wigged-out ex-member, Syd Barrett, whom the movie character is allegedly patterned after, a racist? Is he still?
Or was it a theme that the Jewish script-writers dreamed up?
Any thoughts?
Insider knowlege?
http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/
England V ZOG
June 27th, 2004, 09:36 AM
The Wall, among other things, is an attempt to draw attention to the similarities between rock stars and their audiences and political leaders and the masses, and the potential for 'manipulation'. Roger Waters just used the example of racism to illustrate the point.
I remember him saying that he'd be horrified if anyone took the Pink character literally.
Herman van Houten
June 28th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Roger Waters is a darling of the media and therefore he is anti-racist.
About Syd Barrett's political views we know nothing, the media claim he is insane. Which is in many cases a codeword for having politically incorrect views. That combined with the movie makes me very suspicious that at one point "Syd started ranting about the jews and therefore he is crazy".
http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/syd_img/SI1.jpg
Syd and Iggy the Eskimo.
blueskies
June 28th, 2004, 02:54 PM
The Wall" film showing two White girls blowing security ape for entrance to the concert. As far as the film goes using derogatory words , nigger" and so forth is nothing but reverse psychology, although it was accepteble at that time period, but , left bad taste to the audience.All in the Family , with archie Bunker, perfect example of comical show biz back then, people laugh about it,when the laughter stop, Archie Bunker was nothing but a bigot, racist hate monger thus it subliminal implanted in the america sub-conscience.
Antiochus Epiphanes
June 28th, 2004, 04:50 PM
the wall to me seemed to be some kind of half assed statement equating British Nationalism with fascism. That is kind of pathetic considering that if Britain had merely concluded a peace with Hitler as Hitler desired, then the Empire would have remained intact.
I seriously doubt these guys were racist.
I saw Pink Floyd in the US, not to long ago, and all I could think is how bad it sucked compared to how much I liked it as a teenager. Tastes change.
Plus rock concerts suck if you're sober.
Politico
June 28th, 2004, 05:24 PM
I thought Syd Barrett commited suicide. :confused:
Bragi
June 29th, 2004, 01:12 AM
Pink Floyd made some good music but I don't think any of them had any racist attitudes. Many Brits growing up learn to hate all things German, or I should say all things Third Reich. I believe they see Germany as the evil fascist aggressor who killed a great many British men in the two world wars of the 20th Century. And most Brits are aware that they would have lost both badly were it not for the Americans in 1 and the Russians in 2.
That scene in The Wall where Pink says "that one looks jewish and that one's a coon..." is meant to mock Fascism. He's pretending to be a little Hitler enciting his fans to run out and riot, which they soon do. Even the words The Wall are an allusion to the Berlin Wall and all the dangers of racism, hatred, blah blah blah. Funny, but I don't think it was the Germans who divided their country into democratic and communist sections, but rather the conquering Allies who immediately became bitter enemies after their unholy alliance to defeat The Third Reich quickly fell apart. Sigh. But that's another story.
A major aspect of Pink's life is the early loss of his father to, you guessed it, German guns in the trenches of some field in France during WWI. Britain is a very jewed country and has been for quite some time.
http://home.mchsi.com/~ttint/boys-brick1.jpg
Pink Floyd seems to be very anti-System but they are also extremely politically correct, as is necessary for any commercial success in jewed popular culture. It's impossible to say what attitudes the members have in their private lives, but it is doubtful that any of them would identify with anything remotely white and nationalistic. And they always had those fat black mammy backup singers during concerts, I suppose to add some "soul" to their tunes. There is even one obnoxious song where a nigger woman moans incoherently for a few minutes.
"Eins, zwei, drei, alle!"
Ooooh, you cannot reach me now
Ooooh, no matter how you try
Goodbye, cruel world, it's over
Walk on by.
Sitting in a bunker here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come.
In perfect isolation here behind my wall
Waiting for the worms to come.
We're {waiting to succeed} and going to convene outside Brixton
Town Hall where we're going to be...
Waiting to cut out the deadwood.
Waiting to clean up the city.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to put on a black shirt.
Waiting to weed out the weaklings.
Waiting to smash in their windows
And kick in their doors.
Waiting for the final solution
To strengthen the strain.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Waiting to turn on the showers
And fire the ovens.
Waiting for the queens and the coons
and the reds and the jews.
Waiting to follow the worms.
Would you like to see Britannia
Rule again, my friend?
All you have to do is follow the worms.
Would you like to send our colored cousins
Home again, my friend?
All you need to do is follow the worms.
Fire up the ovens? Waiting to weed out the weaklings? Waiting to turn on the showers? Waiting for the Germans under Hitler maybe.
Sad, they even believe the Holocaust and the six million story. Bummer. Well just enjoy the music I guess, because in the end, they're just musicians.l
blueskies
June 29th, 2004, 07:39 AM
Quote: pink floyd lyrics,Would you like to send our colored cousins
Home again, my friend?] Whigger music is PR business.
England V ZOG
June 29th, 2004, 08:53 AM
Roger Waters is not a standard liberal/pc merchant.
He was accused of sexism regarding the Pro's & Con's Of Hitch Hiking album sleeve http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00006SKRX.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg and more recently i seem to remember him making ambigious comments about Islam in Britain.
My guess is that the likes of him are happy to pay lip service to the status quo from the comfort of their country mansions but if push came to shove would rapidly see the benefits of preserving their heritage, not to say their considerable personal interests.
Abzug Hoffman
June 29th, 2004, 10:56 AM
Have you seen "The Wall" DVD with commentary by Roger Waters? If you haven't you should! When the scene you're talking about comes on, Roger Waters says (paraphrasing a bit) "I think the reason so many people liked this part of the film is because they liked the fact that Jews were being talked about iin a politically incorrect way". Remember the lyrics "that one looks Jewish and that one's a coon/ who let all this riffraff into the room?".
And he makes other remarks during the film like when Pink is watching an old Brittish WWII movie on TV and the black dog named Nigger appears. Waters seems to delight in saying "nigger" because there are other scenes where the dog appears and Waters says "Oh look! There's Nigger again!" then has a good chuckle.
There actually was a dog named Nigger who got killed during the building of the Hoover Dam. He was a mascot of the workers, so they built him a grave with his name on it, Nigger. Decades later, some committee made them replace the tombstone. It was to have only a picture of the dog and no name. But somebody wrote Nigger in the wet cement, and it dried that way.
After I heard this story, I wonder if the Nigger in the PF movie was inspired by the real Nigger.
Abzug Hoffman
June 29th, 2004, 10:59 AM
All I know is that in the movie, The Wall , when the musician character Pink goes psycho he becomes a racist. Great imagery.
Was wigged-out ex-member, Syd Barrett, whom the movie character is allegedly patterned after, a racist? Is he still?
Or was it a theme that the Jewish script-writers dreamed up?
Any thoughts?
Insider knowlege?
http://www.pink-floyd.org/barrett/
I thought this thread was going to be "Was Syd Barrett working for a government mind control project?" or "Was Syd Barrett a victim of a government mind control project?"
Herman van Houten
June 29th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Anyway Syd Barrett was kicked out of Pink Floyd, the movie was made many years after that.
Abzug Hoffman
June 29th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Anyway Syd Barrett was kicked out of Pink Floyd, the movie was made many years after that.
Yeah, but the main character was based on Syd.
MOMUS
June 29th, 2004, 06:54 PM
Do you think he was?
I admire their music still and just brought it up for comment.
Ever listen to Roger Water's first solo album, Pros and Cons of hitchhiking?
Title cut has Clapton playing some strong guitar riffs. haven't heard it in years.
I thought this thread was going to be "Was Syd Barrett working for a government mind control project?" or "Was Syd Barrett a victim of a government mind control project?"
Abzug Hoffman
June 29th, 2004, 11:34 PM
Do you think he was?
I admire their music still and just brought it up for comment.
Ever listen to Roger Water's first solo album, Pros and Cons of hitchhiking?
Title cut has Clapton playing some strong guitar riffs. haven't heard it in years.
No, I don't think he was. But just as Hollywood is full of jew propaganda and Fox News and TV is full of jew/govt. propaganda, so rock music might have been full of mass mind control, but we couldn't see it then anymore than a Fox News fan can see it now.
Herman van Houten
July 19th, 2006, 06:47 AM
When they found out about Syd Barrett's healthy pro-Aryan attitutes, they poisoned him. kicked him out of music, and finally murdered him.
His songs are basically about the fine English country, unpolluted by jews. That didn't fit in with the jews who controlled the "industry".
Arnold Layne was Pink Floyd's only hitsingle, written by Syd Barrett, and directed against a jewish pervert. That is when they decided to take him out.
Abzug Hoffman
July 19th, 2006, 08:14 AM
When they found out about Syd Barrett's healthy pro-Aryan attitutes, they poisoned him. kicked him out of music, and finally murdered him.
His songs are basically about the fine English country, unpolluted by jews. That didn't fit in with the jews who controlled the "industry".
Arnold Layne was Pink Floyd's only hitsingle, written by Syd Barrett, and directed against a jewish pervert. That is when they decided to take him out.
Get out. Syd looks kind of Jewish to me.
Marse Supial
July 19th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Listened to a Pink Floyd Song a few weeks ago -- "Time". I had heard the song a thousand times, but for some reason, this time I paid attention to the lyrics. To me at least, and for us as white people and WNs I think, they have deep meaning:
Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off hand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun
.
.
.
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the english way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought Id something more to say
The emphasis is mine.
Action Alert
July 19th, 2006, 07:23 PM
When they found out about Syd Barrett's healthy pro-Aryan attitutes, they poisoned him. kicked him out of music, and finally murdered him.
His songs are basically about the fine English country, unpolluted by jews. That didn't fit in with the jews who controlled the "industry".
Arnold Layne was Pink Floyd's only hitsingle, written by Syd Barrett, and directed against a jewish pervert. That is when they decided to take him out.
HEY! A bed just opened up at the Cambridge England Psycho Ward. Why don't you check yourself in?
Just kidding, sort-of.
I think it was just like they tell it. Syd was way-out and unmanagable. I LOVED his trippy lyrics, but to make any kind of linkage with Our Cause is silly. I wish they would release the studio tapes of Pink Floyd trying in vain to record Syd's ever-changing "Have You Got It Yet?" song. He changed the lyrics and melody with every take.
BY THE WAY, If you liked Syd Barrett's music, there is another GREAT old British Psychedelia album called "The Cheerful Insanity Of Giles, Giles & Fripp".
It is some of the members of King Crimson BEFORE the band existed. Some consider it the first King Crimson album, but it is much more whimsical than late KC stuff. I highly recommend it!
http://www.bigbangmag.com/dkingcrimson_fichiers/GilesFrippCheerfulInsanity.jpg
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