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ArmSla
July 5th, 2004, 03:53 PM
How come people scream "Conspiracy theory" when someone says Jews own the mainstream media? And not just Jews do the screaming, others as well. And if you try to provided evidence, they don't believe you and think you are crazy.

Or is it not the case. Are most people simply afraid to speak up? Afraid of labels such as "anti-semite"?

MOMUS
July 5th, 2004, 07:10 PM
The US government subscribes to the theory that a secret Muslim organization called Al Queda ( Arabic for 'the base' or 'outhouse') conspired to commit the 9-11-2001 events. They allege that Bush's former millionaire business partner Ben Laden is the leader of the conspiracy. They later elaborated on that theory to say that Iraq and Saddam conspired with them to threaten the US. No proof has yet been offered to prove any of their theory.

How come people scream "Conspiracy theory" when someone says Jews own the mainstream media? And not just Jews, others as well. And if you try to provided evidence, they don't believe you and think you are crazy.

Or is it not the case. Are most people simply afraid to speak up? Afraid of labels such as "anti-semite"?

Whirlwind
July 5th, 2004, 07:24 PM
Conspiract theory is the buzzword they've been taught to cover situations they don't quite understand. If you start saying anything deviating from the company line, it must be a conspiracy theory. They are not taught to give thoughtful answers, just precut replies. Saves them from foolishly adopting a position that is "wrong".
Ideas are dangerous. We don't let our people have guns, why would we let them have ideas? -paraphrasing stalin.

Bragi
July 5th, 2004, 09:45 PM
A conspiracy theory is the belief that historical or current events are the result of manipulations by one or more secretive powers or conspiracies. A conspiracy theory alleges that some particular event -- such as an assassination, a revolution, or even the failure of a product -- resulted not solely from the visible action of overt political or market forces, but rather from covert manipulation. Because conspiracy theories rely on allegations of covert action, they are frequently difficult to support with evidence. For this reason, the expression conspiracy theory is often used pejoratively to refer to allegations that the speaker considers unproven, unlikely, or false.

That is the formal definition of what a conspiracy theory is. As for the jews owning the mainstream media, that's not quite the case. It would be more accurate to say that they control the media. Stockholders own the various media conglomerates, though of course there are plenty of jewish stockholders major and minor.

And they definitely do. When you try to point out the obvious to your fellow conversant, their knee-jerk reaction is to shriek something like "that's crazy talk", "that's conspiracy theory", "so-that doesn't mean anything what's your point?", "I don't care be quiet I'm watching the game", you get the idea.

A good introduction to the subject of overwhelming jewish power in the USA can be found here: http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

It would be good to print it and distribute it to people you know. You could challenge them to read it and then have a nice little sit down and a rational, polite discussion with no name-calling. Why no name-calling? Remember when you were a kid and somebody made you mad? You might have called them "doo-doo head" or "poo-poo pants" or some other silly term. Now that you're all grown up, the game's the same only the words have changed. Now when someone gets mad, they call you "anti-Semite" or "nazi hater".

When a lemming experiences cognitive dissonance, or comes upon a subject or idea deemed taboo by the powers that be, their mind simply shuts down and they immediately resort to calling you some supposed slur or epithet so as to end the conversation which they cannot bear to have. You gotta love when the lemming starts calling you names and can't simply have a calm discussion. Oy, the emotions just take over and a lifetime of brainwashing bubbles to the surface and goes into overdrive. Auto-pilot time. You've won the debate by default.

If you name the jew, the lemming gets especially ancy. Because Hilter killed 6 million of them and we can't have that happen again, nosiree. "Never again, never again" is the chant. Naming the jew might lead to yellow patches and ghettoes and then on to train cars and gas ovens and eventually another 6 million of God's precious little harmless innocent brilliant darlings are wiped from the face of the Earth because of evil bad bad evil Nazis and their brutal plan of world domination! Lemmings, they're so predictable.

What you'll eventually discover about the whole jewish question is that the plain and simple truth is anti-Semitic. Either this, or that the jews are a tribe of world-hating, nation-wrecking, racist elitists, filthy lying kike whores loyal only to themselves and the almighty shekel.

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 7th, 2004, 01:59 PM
easy answer to that one. in "Jewish Power" Jewish journalist JJ Goldberg talked about the "reality of Jewish dominance in media." Ben Stein, wrote an essay called "Yes we control the media and so what" or words to that effect. Most propositions may be supported with a citation to a Jew source which defuses these smart-aleck group think morons who instantly cry "conspiracy theory."

Fredrik Haerne
July 10th, 2004, 02:39 PM
Anyone who wants a looong list of quotes by Jews on Jewish power, give me your email address. Also, I have an equally long list of famous and important people naming the Jew: Voltaire, Martin Luther, Polish queens and Russian writers and what have you. Even Churchill and de Gaulle knew the truth about the Jew, making their unprovoked aggression toward Germany all the more appalling.

But I digress.

I don't know if there are any conspiracies in the media or banking -- and actually, it doesn't really matter. Whether the Jews do their thing without communication, or after having secret meetings, or after just sharing a few comments over the phone or at a cocktail party (the most likely scenario), is beside the point. The original reason for their actions is blood: they are a minority and want to bring down any majority they live among, in order to be safe.

If there was only a conspiracy at work, I would be relieved, because conspiracies are particularly fragile and short-lived things. They never survive more than one generation, and usually much less than that, and they are usually about one very particular issue only, such as an assassination or a secret price cartel.

Behavior determined by your genes, however, is far more serious. It will appear again and again in every generation. I come to think of that study where infants were approached by adult members of other races: those who reacted with the least fear were White infants, while those who reacted with the most fear, wailing and crying, were the Jewish infants. (and of course: we have rarely had to fight other races through the millennia, while Jews have always lived as a minority, causing the less race-aware members to miscegenate and disappear from the gene pool.)


On the other hand. . . .

David Duke once wrote that since we Whites are not inclined toward conspiracies, we have a hard time imagining others creating them. So let us think for a moment about the conspiracies we do know have occurred. The assassination of Kennedy was clearly the result of a conspiracy -- that is, several people working clandestinely to achieve something. Organized crime everywhere is a conspiracy -- a failed conspiracy, since everybody eventually becomes aware of it, but they nevertheless try to do their stuff in secret.

In the 1930s the Swedish king Gustaf V had a homosexual lover, who threatened the court with extortion. When he was on a trip through Germany the court contacted Gestapo, asking them to have him thrown off a train at high speed. Gestapo considered the request but then replied they were not in the habit of assassinating people, and especially not at the behest of a foreign power. Had they agreed, however, the assassination would have been the result of a conspiracy. (This is not known information: I know of it because a friend of my father works at the court.)

Bankers have funded communists in secret, and socialist parties have done the same: back in the 70s a member of the socialist party in Sweden was stopped in customs with a suitcase full of money -- bringing so much cash out of the country was illegal. He was on his way to Western Germany, no doubt to fund some communist group the socialist party could not assist openly.

The communists who used the Vietnam war to fool the lemmings fabricated atrocity stories were Americans were painted as evil. Some of them have admitted as much afterward, claiming that since they "were at war" anything was allowed.

East Germany funded West Germans (probably Jews) who bought up Western newspapers, which then became pro-communist and pro-East German in particular. That is also a conspiracy.

When party leaders agree secretly to oppress nationalist parties, that is a conspiracy. That has occurred many times in Europe, and probably in North America as well. After a long time someone will shrug his shoulders and say yes, we agreed we would talk about the evil racists in such-and-such manner, and so what?

An example: the government-controlled Swedish radio channels (which used to have a monopoly just like the govt-controlled television, and therefore are well-established and powerful) had a written document sent to every station before the last Riksdag election, where it was decreed that the nationalist Swedish Democrats would either a) be ignored, or b) talked about as "the racist Swedish Democrats" or "the stranger-hostile Swedish Democrats" or "the anti-democratics Swedish Democrats". It was done in secret, and it is a clear case of a conspiracy. Fortunately SD sympathizers working at a radio station got hold of the document.

One of the most prolific known conspiracies is the Hung Mun Tong, later called the Triads, in China. The Hung Mun started out as a secret society dedicated to the overthrow of the Manchurians, who had invaded China and installed themselves as the empire's nobility. (Quite scary, when you think about it: imagine, say, Turks becoming the nobility all over Europe, or, say, Jews becoming the secret movers and shakers all over ... never mind.) Wherever there was unrest or discontent the Hung Mun was there to nurture the flames; they were always beaten down, but they didn't stop trying. Their regional leaders were often wealthy merchants and lower nobility, but their members came from all classes of society. Eventually they transformed into today's organized crime, but some of them maintained political inspiration, such as some Triads in Hong Kong that were anti-communist and pro-Nationalist.

ArmSla
July 19th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Anyone who wants a looong list of quotes by Jews on Jewish power, give me your email address. Also, I have an equally long list of famous and important people naming the Jew: Voltaire, Martin Luther,

I read Voltaires Candide, it is a very funny political satire. Anyway, every time there was a mention of money, there was a mention of Jews. There was a lot of "sumoning of Jews", and our protagonist, Candide, was "swindled by Jews" many times.

Here is an exerpt from the Final chapter of Candide:


It was quite natural to imagine that, after so many disasters, Candide, now married to his sweatheart and living with philosophical Pangloss, the philosophical Martin, the prudent Cacambo and the old woman and, moreover, having brought back so many diamonds from the land of the ancient Incas, would be leading the most agreeable of all possible lives. But he was swindled so many times by Jews that all he had left in the end was his little farm; his wife, who grew uglier with every day that passed, became shrewish and impossible to live with; the old woman was infirm and even more bad-tempered than Cunegonde.......

The Final Solution
July 20th, 2004, 06:39 AM
As to actual conspiracies, if you talk to serious law enforcement types, they'll tell you that what they doubt is big conspiracies, for the obvious reason that someone will break. This is why nobody took Stone's JFK very seriously. An example of a pretty small conspiracy that was still too big was the fact-based movie Goodfellas, about the record-breaking Lufthansa heist. One of the gang, as it happens the only negro, couldn't resist spending all his loot at once on high-profile items, and brought the whole thing down.

The jewish problem as I see it is not a conspiracy, although as inherently deceitful creatures they do engage in many different conspiracies. Overall, it is not a conspiracy because it is not a secret, especially if you do as Dr. Pierce advised and consult their internal consumption sources as opposed to their propaganda in the NYT and WP for the gullible goyim. For example, Mossad defector Ostrovsky's revelation of many housands of sayanim (helpers) in the diaspora should come as no surprise to anyone who knows this:

"Which are you first," Ben-Gurion, Communist co-founder of modern-day Israel, once wryly asked an audience, "a Jew or an American?" His own answer shot back immediately: "You are first and foremost a Jew."

http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0067.htm

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 20th, 2004, 10:12 AM
As to actual conspiracies, if you talk to serious law enforcement types, they'll tell you that what they doubt is big conspiracies, for the obvious reason that someone will break. This is why nobody took Stone's JFK very seriously. An example of a pretty small conspiracy that was still too big was the fact-based movie Goodfellas, about the record-breaking Lufthansa heist. One of the gang, as it happens the only negro, couldn't resist spending all his loot at once on high-profile items, and brought the whole thing down.

The jewish problem as I see it is not a conspiracy, although as inherently deceitful creatures they do engage in many different conspiracies. Overall, it is not a conspiracy because it is not a secret, especially if you do as Dr. Pierce advised and consult their internal consumption sources as opposed to their propaganda in the NYT and WP for the gullible goyim. For example, Mossad defector Ostrovsky's revelation of many housands of sayanim (helpers) in the diaspora should come as no surprise to anyone who knows this:



http://www.conspiracyworld.com/index0067.htm

Well said. There is no large jewish conspiracy, power is the name of the game and it's out in the open how they achieve it.

The good news is that they have no patent or monopoly on the instrumentalities they have used to gain power. Sauce for the goose will be sauce for the gander.

Fredrik Haerne
July 20th, 2004, 06:10 PM
But he was swindled so many times by Jews that all he had left in the end was his little farm;

That's funny! *L* It was erased from the Candide version I read in school. Can you imagine? Not a single reference to Jews in it. Down the memory hole it goes, like the neatly revised books in 1984. Mustn't allow the goyim to hear what their own ancestors had to tell them.

ArmSla
July 20th, 2004, 06:40 PM
That's funny! *L* It was erased from the Candide version I read in school. Can you imagine? Not a single reference to Jews in it. Down the memory hole it goes, like the neatly revised books in 1984. Mustn't allow the goyim to hear what their own ancestors had to tell them.


You know, in school they taught us about Voltaire and about his works. I had no idea that he hated Jews until I read one of his uncenssored works.

You should read the real Candide.

There was really no mention of Jews in the censored version you read? You can find the word "Jew" on almost every page in Candide. LOL

MOMUS
July 20th, 2004, 06:51 PM
No mention of jews in the version I read just a few years ago.

You know, in school they taught us about Voltaire and about his works. I had no idea that he hated Jews until I read one of his uncenssored works.

You should read the real Candide.

There was really no mention of Jews in the censored version you read? You can find the word "Jew" on almost every page in Candide. LOL

Antiochus Epiphanes
July 20th, 2004, 07:05 PM
You know, in school they taught us about Voltaire and about his works. I had no idea that he hated Jews until I read one of his uncenssored works.

You should read the real Candide.

There was really no mention of Jews in the censored version you read? You can find the word "Jew" on almost every page in Candide. LOL

I remember reading it in AP French au lycee. Juifs were mentioned.

Jenab
July 26th, 2004, 09:24 AM
How come people scream "Conspiracy theory" when someone says Jews own the mainstream media? And not just Jews do the screaming, others as well. And if you try to provided evidence, they don't believe you and think you are crazy.

Or is it not the case. Are most people simply afraid to speak up? Afraid of labels such as "anti-semite"?
A conspiracy theory is begun, or propagated, when someone tells you about an alleged agreement between two other people to commit acts that might be contrary to your interests. Conspiracy theories may be true or false.

Examples of false conspiracy theories are the theory that the Nazis were scheming to rule the whole world and the theory that Saddam Hussein provided aid to the terrorists who destroyed the World Trade Center towers on 11 Sep 2001.

The former false conspiracy theory was hatched by the U.S. Government (president: Franklin D. Roosevelt) as war propaganda and continues to be propagated by the Jews as an attachment to their Holohoax allegations.

The latter false conspiracy theory was hatched by the U.S. Government (president: George W. Bush) as part of an incitement to the American people in favor of a war with Iraq. Jewish advisors to the president, including Paul Wolfowitz, were instrumental in launching this false conspiracy theory.

The Jews do not continue to insist that Saddam Hussein backed the 9/11 terrorists because they have reaped all the benefit from these particular lies that they can expect to get (chiefly, Israeli access to the Iraqi oil reserves). The Nazi-Holohoax false conspiracy theory, by contrast, depends on keeping the goyim brainwashed more-or-less continously, and so their propaganda for it is endless.

An example of a true conspiracy theory is the theory that the Jews own or otherwise control all the important instruments of the mass media for news and entertainment and that the Jews use these media to brainwash gentiles (especially Whites) to affect their lives and thoughts, and to induce them to act in ways contrary to their own longterm interests.

One of the most often used tactics of the Jews, pursuant to this conspiracy, is to mock the idea that the Jews are ever involved in conspiracies and to use the mockery in ridicule of anyone who suggests such involvement. Sheer brashness - or, I suppose, chutzpah - in the application of the tactic is the reason for its occasional success.

Jerry Abbott

Jenab
August 5th, 2004, 01:45 AM
Cancer does occasionally strike someone like a bolt of lightning out of a clear blue sky, and for no apparent reason a man who seemed healthy for years suddenly withers and dies. The key word in the previous sentence is apparent.

There usually is a reason for something; we just don't know what it is.

Several months before Dr. Pierce died, he had a very sudden attack of soreness in his mouth. One of his teeth began giving him such terrible aches of the nearby gum and dental nerves that the whole side of his face swelled up. That most unusual occurance was noticed at his last NA Leadership Conference.

He was treated for the problem and it went away in a few weeks, but...

Do you suppose that the toothache and the cancer were related?

Cancer can be induced, if someone who has the required means and knowledge gets the chance to do it. One explanation for both the toothache and the cancer is a radioactive dental filling: mercury amalgam doped with a trace of plutonium. Such a filling would cause a toothache (nerve damage) within a few months and cancer in about a year. If it were held within the amalgam, it would not spread as a chemical poison, just as the mercury contained in it does not usually spread.

Normally, mercury amalgam is made from mercury, silver, tin, copper and zinc. Amalgam is more similar to an alloy than to a compound, but it is an alloy in which none of the metals dissociate from the product under normal circumstances (i.e., spit doesn't wash any of them out). Fillings do break occasionally, and if they break during sleep some amalgam might be swallowed where stomach acids would have a chance to break the alloy down: but with what success I couldn't say.

Could plutonium be "worked into" the alloy in lieu of one of the metals normally present: or, at least, in lieu of a fraction thereof?

For a prominent, outspoken racist and anti-Jewish activist to suddenly get sick and die, for no apparent reason, is enough for all his followers to become suspicious of the circumstances. When a man has enemies, especially if they are powerful enemies with a history of carrying out daring assassinations, then it is valid to speculate that the usual suspects might have been up to their old tricks again.

Did Dr. Pierce receive dental care at some time in 2001, say about a year to 15 months before he died in July 2002? If so, did he receive a filling on the side of his mouth that developed soreness a few months later? If so, who was the dentist?

Jerry Abbott

Antiochus Epiphanes
August 5th, 2004, 05:52 PM
I think if somebody wanted to whack WLP it would have been easier and less chance of getting caught to simply pay a couple guys to sneak up there in the wee hours of the night and do him in with fire or lead.

Paying some dentist to put radioactive agent in his mouth would be ten times more complicated than necessary and not sure to work. Imagine the logistics, imagine the risks, imagine the comparatively higher cost.

It's just a tragedy, that's all. A way of Divine Providence making us all grow up a little faster and lift ourselves by our own bootstraps instead of looking to Dr P all the time. He made his service to the life force and now his person is dispersed back into the current from which it came.

Fred Streed
August 7th, 2004, 12:29 AM
I think if somebody wanted to whack WLP it would have been easier and less chance of getting caught to simply pay a couple guys to sneak up there in the wee hours of the night and do him in with fire or lead.

Paying some dentist to put radioactive agent in his mouth would be ten times more complicated than necessary and not sure to work. Imagine the logistics, imagine the risks, imagine the comparatively higher cost.

It's just a tragedy, that's all. A way of Divine Providence making us all grow up a little faster and lift ourselves by our own bootstraps instead of looking to Dr P all the time. He made his service to the life force and now his person is dispersed back into the current from which it came.

Shooting Dr. Pierce would have made an instant martyr out of him complete with songs and all the rest of the usual fuss over martyred heros. The kikes know this better than we do. However if someone dies of cancer it is not nearly as heroic as getting shot.

Most people who were close to Dr. Pierce and the events of that summer find his death suspicious. Of course Erich Gliebe and Shaun Walker and the rest of that band of thieving lying traitorous scum considered his death to be a stroke of luck and wasted no time taking advantage of it.

Whirlwind
August 7th, 2004, 07:44 AM
Mr. Abbott, you are making some sense. Scary, but possible. Fire and lead, A.E.? You won't be placed in charge of such matters. Remember the mossad's claim to be able to take out enemies, no matter where they were located? Remember the mossad's motto? Through dececption... If WLP was not a big enough fish...

Herman van Houten
August 7th, 2004, 10:16 AM
The jewish involvement in medicine is a great danger since the goal of jewry is that "even the best o the goyim should be killed".

I thought about it first thing when I heard about dr. Pierce's death.

Isn't it amazing how cancers which kills one in every three people never seems to kill the jews at the top?

There are many specifically jewish hospitals, but no Aryan hospitals. Jews rule us, and Aryans die.

John in Woodbridge
August 7th, 2004, 10:19 AM
I thought about it first thing when I heard about dr. Pierce's death.

What did he die of anyways? I know he was fairly old. Hopefully someone was able to take care of Hadley.

Fred Streed
August 7th, 2004, 10:46 AM
What did he die of anyways? I know he was fairly old. Hopefully someone was able to take care of Hadley.

He died of a type of cancer that originated in the lining of his stomach, I don't remember the technical term for it. He developed severe abdominal pain over a period of about one or two weeks, it was obvious to everyone around him that it was getting worse fast. My wife and I finally talked him into going to the emergency room and they put him into the hospital for tests. The cancer ate him up incredibly quickly. He was in fairly good health up until that happened.

Hadley was fired along with the rest of Dr. Pierce's original staff by Erich "Punchy" Gleebe and Shaun "Skipper" Walker/Runner. Hadley found a home with a good White family.

John in Woodbridge
August 7th, 2004, 11:01 AM
He died of a type of cancer that originated in the lining of his stomach, I don't remember the technical term for it. He developed severe abdominal pain over a period of about one or two weeks, it was obvious to everyone around him that it was getting worse fast. My wife and I finally talked him into going to the emergency room and they put him into the hospital for tests. The cancer ate him up incredibly quickly. He was in fairly good health up until that happened.

Hadley was fired along with the rest of Dr. Pierce's original staff by Erich "Punchy" Gleebe and Shaun "Skipper" Walker/Runner. Hadley found a home with a good White family.

At least you were fortunate enough to know him personally. A truly extraordinary individual.

Don't know much about Kevin Strom, but he seems about as charismatic as John Kerry.

Hadding
August 7th, 2004, 01:13 PM
There were several good people who died (e.g. Glayde Whitney, who was 62) or were otherwise taken out (e.g. Ernst Zündel, Matt Hale, railroaded and incarcerated) around the same time. Since Dr. Pierce's death I have seen a report about the Mossad's wanting to assassinate people in the US. Of course it has long been the Jewish State's habit in the Middle East to kill or try to kill anyone who seems to pose a problem for them. It seems that the Jews have become much more aggressive in this regard since 9-11. According to The Wolf of the Kremlin, by Lazar Kaganovich's nephew, Jews killed Stalin using a drug that induced strokes; thus the use of methods of assassination that simulate disease is not unknown among Jews.

I find the radioactive filling theory rather far-fetched (although there have been news-reports of Israelis acting suspiciously around nuclear facilities), however, and coincidences do happen. I have an open mind about this but that's all.

The Final Solution
August 9th, 2004, 06:20 AM
Plague Warriors, by at least one jew, describes how the South Africans induced cancer in anti-Apartheid activists. And we know Mossad was very close to the SA security services. Also recall the "natural" death by umbrella of the Bulgarian dissident Markov, and Mossad's poisoning debacle in Jordan a while back.

That said, people do sometimes just drop dead unexpectedly. I doubt WLP was worth an actual Mossad operation in 'Kwa, but his heirs can exhume the body and bring in a WN pathologist (if any exists) just to be sure.

Hadding
August 15th, 2004, 11:04 PM
but his heirs can exhume the body and bring in a WN pathologist (if any exists) just to be sure.
Dr. Pierce was cremated and the ashes were scattered.